Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

['Nicki Keck' via VIPhone]

This solution didn't seem to work for me.  I am trying one more thing and  
we'll see. 

Nicki

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hmm interesting I turned all off but sounds including notification center and 
> it seems to be fine here I didn't want to see it in notification center so 
> gave it a go. Perhaps others can report how it's working for them.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/3/2021 9:49 AM, Donna Casteen wrote:
>> The developer of the westminster Chime app gave me an update. Here is what 
>> he said:
>> 
>> From: J Luther Barnhart 
>> Date: November 1, 2021 at 1:38:53 PM PDT
>> To: J Luther Barnhart 
>> Subject: Westminster Chimes and iOS 15
>> 
>> 
>> I just submitted a new build of Westminster Chimes to the App Store!
>> 
>> This address the problem of the chimes not playing in iOS 15. Now we just 
>> have to wait for Apple to approve it.
>> 
>> Part of the problem was that the previous version was not registering for 
>> anything other than Sounds. That no longer works. Apple wants the end user 
>> to have total control over their notification experience. So, by default, 
>> Westminster Chimes will show Banners, and show on the lock screen.
>> 
>> For the best experience, I suggest that you go into Settings > Westminster 
>> Chimes > Notifications, and turn off “Show in Lock Screen” and “Banners”. 
>> Leave “Notification Center”  and “Sounds” turned on. 
>> 
>> Thank you for your patience, and for your business!
>> 
>> J Luther Barnhart
>> jlut...@luthersoft.com
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have tried everything to stop it but I cannot either.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
> On 2 Nov 2021, at 18:47, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> How do I get Voiceover to stop talking when the chimes go off? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do 
> nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
>> On 11/2/2021 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
> Hello friends,
> 
> For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for 
> compatibility with iOS15.
> 
> I’ve updated but not tried it yet.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

['Nicki Keck' via VIPhone]

I am getting notifications on my watch as well. I went into the watch app and 
notifications on my phone. I looked at all apps that mirror notifications from 
my phone and Westminster Chimes was not listed. Yet I get  them. 

Nicki

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've had this happen when an app is not installed on the watch, you still 
>> may find it in the Watch Notifications on the watch and you can turn it off.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 5:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.
>> 
>> Hello Diane,
>> 
>> That's a total mystery why you are getting notifications on your watch.
>> 
>> I have an elderly series2 Apple Watch and I'm not getting any notifications 
>> on it from Westminster Chimes.  As you say the app is not installed on your 
>> watch.
>> 
>> It may be worth sending an e-mail to:
>> 
>> jlut...@luthersoft.com
>> 
>> Best of luck.
>> 
>> Malcolm
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
>> Giannetti
>> Sent: 03 November 2021 18:50
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.
>> 
>> OK Malcolm, I do not get any notifications now on my phone, however, I did 
>> get it on my Apple Watch just notifications. I am not getting any chimes. I 
>> don’t know why I got the notifications on my Apple Watch because it’s not on 
>> my Apple Watch. But anyhow I’m not getting changed now.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Malcolm. OK I copy down what you were told me to do and hopefully I did 
>>> this correctly and we will see what happens at quarter of. Thank you very 
>>> much I will let you know the outcome.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>> 
> On Nov 3, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
> wrote:
 
 Hello Diane,
 
 Here's how I have mine configured so I hope this helps.
 
 Go into Settings on your iPhone.
 
 Next go to Notifications.
 
 Scroll down to Westminster Chimes Full and double-tap.
 
 Allow notifications is set to on.  Double-tapping toggles this on/off.
 
 Under the heading Always Deliver Immediately I have Time Sensitive 
 Notifications set to on, again this is a toggle item.
 
 Under the heading Alerts I have:
 
 Allow On Lock Screen disabled.
 
 Allow in Notification Centre deselected.
 
 Allow As Banner disabled.
 
 Sounds On.
 
 Badges off.
 
 Under the heading Lock Screen Appearance I have:
 
 Show Previews set to never.
 
 You will need to double tap Show Previews to access its list of options, 
 in here double tap Never to select it.
 Double tap Back to exit this screen and Back once again and you're done.
 
 When you launch Westminster Chimes you have some options you can choose 
 from.
 
 Firstly you have to set Play Chimes to on.
 
 Swiping right you have Chimes Style.  You can choose between:
 
 Westminster, Wittington, St. Michael's, Canterbury, Winchester and Spoken.
 
 By default I think it's set to Westminster.  Double tap on Westminster to 
 select a different chime style if you prefer.
 
 Swiping right is Volume, double tap to reveal its options.  Mine is set to 
 high.  Note chime volume is relative to your device's volume.
 
 All Day on mine is selected.  If you double tap here you can select a 
 start and end time for your chimes.  If you have all the quarters, the 
 half hour and hour chimes set to on there is a 12 hour limit for the 
 chimes to play.  You can increase this by deselecting 15 and 45 minute and 
 it will now chime for 21 hours.  If All Day is selected this limit does 
 not apply.
 
 If you continue to swipe right you have a number of options you can toggle 
 on/off. Under the heading Play The Quarters:
 
 
 Chime The Hour, Play The Quarters, On The Hour [00], Quarter Past [:15], 
 Half Past [:30] Quarter Till [:45].
 
 If I remember correctly the free version of the app does not play when the 
 app is not running.  The full version plays when the app is exited farom 
 the App Switcher and when the device is locked.
 
 Hope this has helped you.
 
 Malcolm
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 Of Diane Giannetti
 Sent: 03 November 2021 

Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

['Nicki Keck' via VIPhone]

Well, it's interesting. Because my husband is a true techie and enjoys seeing 
the numbers and hoping they are going down, he tests a lot more thn 3 times a 
day. I would say he tests at least 6 times a day. He had trouble motivating to 
test once with the Prodigy.

Nicki

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> 
> For Medicare, i think you either need to be on insulin, use an insulin pump, 
> or need to test 3 times per day or more.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Lynn White
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived
> 
> Hi Linda,
> My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I would 
> either check with the insurance company or your doctor.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Everyone,
>>> Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that yes 
>>> I may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 2 app 
>>> to activate it.
>>> I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my phone 
>>> thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  Didn’t make 
>>> a difference.  
>>> The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is 
>>> Libre 2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.
>>> So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream 
>>> Scanner read what the display shows. 
>>> Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not very 
>>> loud.
>>> Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.
>>> Vivian and Sallie
>>> From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone  
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived
>>> As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not diabetic, but my 
>>> husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just the 
>>> app.  I have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the reader, 
>>> that you may not be able to use this particular sensor with the app, but 
>>> after this 14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor and use the 
>>> app to scan it.  Also, as others have said, after you activate it, you will 
>>> need to wait an hour.  The app will notify you when your hour is over and 
>>> prompt you to scan for a reading.  We have never had a reader with my 
>>> husband’s unit, as I talked with a coworker and he told me not to get it, 
>>> as the app is the most accessible way to use the Libre.  We told the doctor 
>>> that we didn’t want or need the reader.  Hope this is helpful.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>>> The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor 
>>> with your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t 
>>> recall how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now 
>>> switched over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Vivian,
>>> You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the 
>>> device to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the 
>>> libre with my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the 
>>> continuous glucose monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It 
>>> works real well, at least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I 
>>> do not know if it is possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from 
>>> the reader. Just don’t use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense 
>>> that they should not have sold you.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment 
>>> with the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her 
>>> that it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.
>>> She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After I got home, I 
>>> installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it was 
>>> installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this 
>>> could be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.
>>> I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success but just tried 
>>> VD Scanner and it was perfect.
>>> I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead of the reader.  
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>> Many thanks for assistance.
>>> Vivian and Sallie
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

['Nicki Keck' via VIPhone]

The doctor got it for my husband before he got on insulin. He wanted to monitor 
it before the insulin started so we would know how the sugars were running and 
how much insulin to prescribe. He had to talk to the insurance person to 
finally get it approved. It's not easy to get it if you are not on insulin. 
It's possible but not easy. I think part of the reason we got it for my husband 
is because it was clear he was going to be going on insulin.  We monitored it, 
went to the doctor, showed him the app, which he was absolutely fascinated 
with, by the way, and now he is on the insulin so we shouldn't have trouble 
keeping it covered. We did give them the argument of blindness and difficulty 
monitoring sugars with conventional meters, but even that argument didn't work 
right away. 

Nicki

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:25 PM, Robert stigile  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, it’s Robert.
> So, you need to have your doctor tell them that you do not need insulin but 
> in order to keep your blood sugars in tight control you need to freestyle 
> libre patches.
> Your doctor will need to submit reports every three months to let them know 
> that you are still not using insulin but that your blood sugars are in 
> tighter control by using the free style libre patch.
> Also, your doctor needs to submit a report stating that due to your blindness 
> you’re not able to test using a meter as well due to not getting enough blood 
> on the strips. That is what my doctor has told Abbott and they are fine with 
> that.
> You just have to have your doctor keep pushing it.
> Good luck! 
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They keep 
>> telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get 
>> this for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. 
>> Please help? Thank you Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
 On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am not 
>>> using insulin and I have the libre sensors.
>>> My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to have 
>>> better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult to 
>>> get blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood 
>>> on the strip using a meter.
>>> Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings with 
>>> the Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and 
>>> then it will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch 
>>> the top of the foam to the patch.
>>> I hope this helps. 
>>> 
>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>>> National Federation of the Blind of California
>>> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>>> 818-381-9568
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White  wrote:
> 
 Hi Linda,
 My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I 
 would either check with the insurance company or your doctor.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Everyone,
>>  
>> Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that 
>> yes I may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 
>> 2 app to activate it.
>>  
>> I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my 
>> phone thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  
>> Didn’t make a difference.  
>>  
>> The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is 
>> Libre 2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.
>>  
>> So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream 
>> Scanner read what the display shows. 
>>  
>> Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not 
>> very loud.
>>  
>> Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.
>>  
>> Vivian and Sallie
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived
>>  
>> As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not diabetic, but 
>> my husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just 
>> the app.  I have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the 
>> reader, that you may not be able to use this particular sensor with the 
>> app, but after this 14-day sensor 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

['Nicki Keck' via VIPhone]

I saw a tweet from Cnet stating IOS 15 will be released September 20.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and WatchOS 
releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, which is an iPhone 11 
and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for the iPhone is February of next 
year, which is nearly halfway through the September release cycle, so I may as 
well wait until next Fall to update. I used to be one of those update every 
year crew, and then it turned into update to last year's model each year. 
Hopefully next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose 
sensor.
My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her hands on 
a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and whistles. She just 
wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 watch. So aside from her 
purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 
15 and trying out some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing 
that I will be getting!

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from 
> past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since 
> the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day 
> they will be in people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 
> will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next 
> week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially 
> deal with public beta issues since I only have one device and I need 
> it to function and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis 
> regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, 
> just 1 generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every 
> year increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people 
> other than those who think they always have to have the latest.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in 
> Australia and was not impressed.
> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading 
> any hardware this year.
> Sincerely,
> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>
> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I 
> have an iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 
> Pro and also an Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's 
> latest basic iPad.
>
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad 
> Mini sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I 
> would consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new 
> camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also 
> on the Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most 
> blind people this is of little relevance.
>
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in 
> all iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed 
> it, but I don't think so.
>
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to 
> next year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe 
> we'll see some more compelling new features.
>
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were 
> not 

Re: I Listserv for Apple Watch

[Nicki Keck]

Also, thanks for giving the info for the Apple Watch uncomplicated list. My 
husband and I started it because at the time, there was no list for Apple 
Watch. That was about a month ago when we first got ours. We would like to see 
it more active.

Nicki
Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks Richard for giving the subscription link to my list. I often forget 
> it. Smile. I promise to try to make that list a little more active now that i 
> purchased my new one. It will be here soon!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There are two that I know of:
>> AppleWatchUncomplicated +subscr...@groups.io
>> 
>> 
>> And watchosblindusersgroup+subscr...@groups.io
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Dulce Weisenborn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just received my Apple Watch today. Is there a separate list for the 
>>> Apple Watch?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: split view on Ipad

[Nicki Keck]

Thank you, Dan. I want to try this.

Nicki
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On Dec 3, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Dan  wrote:



Ok, never mind.  I did some more digging and found some instructions that are 
apparently more complete than the ones I found before.  The first set I found 
didn't do the whole job.


If you go into settings, multitasking and doc, and multitasking then you can 
turn off all the options in there and the split view/slide features are 
completely turned off.


After doing this and checking some apps it turns out that some of the 
difficulties I have been having were because of this feature.  I was apparently 
activating apps without intending to.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 12/3/2020 10:59 AM, Dan wrote:

I have searched this out and found some instructions but they don't work 
completely.  Maybe it can't be done or something.


I want to turn off split view completely so that when I open an app it is the 
only thing displayed on the screen.  Maybe I am just old and can't  adjust but 
I'd rather have my Ipad act like my iphone SE.


I got it partly turned off using some instructions I found by googling but some 
apps still go into split view when I open them.


Can I turn it off completely?


Thanks,



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Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

[Nicki Keck]

I agree. It's so much easier to use. Thnk much for the mention.  
Nicki
Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Thanks for posting about StarPlayrX for those of us with SiriusXM accounts. 
> This app is much friendlier for accessing SiriusXM content when using 
> Voiceover.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
> 
> 
> For those that listen to SiriusXM on their phone, here is a more simple and 
> accessible app that you can use. I got this from the Mosen at Large podcast. 
> The app is free and the link can be found below.
> 
> StarPlayrX
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fstarplayrx%2Fid1453335612data=04%7C01%7C%7C52eec6fc1bc04ee65c6808d8898aba28%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637410576200308034%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=qXE0e093eE9Tkzzl9nc7%2FBZpz9Sxy0pFJbzOvwCRaQY%3Dreserved=0
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RE: outlook app question

[Nicki Keck]

This is in IOS.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: outlook app question

Try alt+v, v, s.
At 09:52 AM 9/30/2020, you wrote:

>I never have found a way of doing this.  And actually, in the mail app, 
>I can’t figure out how to do it either. I always have to go down the 
>bottom to see oldest messages.  If there is a way to have the oldest 
>ones at the top, I’d like to know.
>
>
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>From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski
>Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:00 AM
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>Subject: outlook app question
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>
>
>Hi all. I'm using the Outlook app and was 
>wondering if there was a way to switch the 
>message order from oldest to newest? When I go 
>through my messages and delete one it jumps me 
>to the top of my messages instead of going back to the bottom.
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>
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>Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
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RE: outlook app question

[Nicki Keck]

I never have found a way of doing this.  And actually, in the mail app, I can’t 
figure out how to do it either. I always have to go down the bottom to see 
oldest messages.  If there is a way to have the oldest ones at the top, I’d 
like to know.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: outlook app question

Hi all. I'm using the Outlook app and was wondering if there was a way to 
switch the message order from oldest to newest? When I go through my messages 
and delete one it jumps me to the top of my messages instead of going back to 
the bottom.

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
rilni...@gmail.com
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Re: What's app web vs. What's App Mobile App

[Nicki Keck]

I WhatsApp for windows was OK, but the phone does work a lot better. My biggest 
problem with WhatsApp for windows is that it seems like every time I launch it 
it wants me to scan my phone and take a picture rather and scan the PC for a 
barcode so that it will allow me to continue. I personally am not good at this 
and was not able to get it to see the barcode on my laptop screen. I would have 
to call my husband each time to do it for me. My husband is as blind as I am, 
but I think because he previously had site, he is better at aiming the camera 
than I am and he got The picture within five seconds. However, I just don’t 
want to have to keep calling him to help me every time I want to use ‎WhatsApp 
for windows.

Nicki
Sent from my iPhone using Braille.

On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


Hi
No, in my experience the windows version does not work that well, the phone app 
is way more accessible than the windows app, unless this has changed in the 
last few months.  At this stage for the windows version to work, you have to 
have an account on your phone any way, so one might as well use the phone.  
This will change when whatsapp roll out multi device support in the future.
Jan


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Priscilla Garces (prisci)
Sent: 26 August 2020 16:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's app web vs. What's App Mobile App

Hi All,
Hope  you are doing well.
I have a couple questions about What’s app web vs. the What’s app Mobile app.
How accessible is the what’s app web client? Has anyone ever used what’s app 
web? If so, what has been your experience?
Is it less accessible than the mobile app?
I only use the mobile app, and it is very accessible for me. But I wanted to 
use what’s app web to see if it’s just as accessible with VoiceOver as it is in 
the mobile app. Does anyone use the mobile app as well? If so which do you all 
prefer, what’s app web and/or what’s app mobile?
Please reach out via reply at garcesp...@gmail.com

Thank you and have a nice day.
Best,

Priscilla
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RE: Braille displays and auto advance

[Nicki Keck]

Ann,

I would love to have this feature.  Currently, it's not possible, unless 
there's something I don't know, but I'm 99.9% sure it's not. But I'd love 
to see it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille displays and auto advance

Hi folks,


I think I know the answer to this, and that it is no. But is there a way in iOS 
to get a braille display to auto-advance at a certain pace when reading 
documents so hitting that panning key constantly isn't necessary? I think this 
is the only thing I really don't like about iOS and braille, but maybe I'm 
wrong and I just don't know the proper command?


If it doesn't exist, how would we go about suggesting it to the right people?


Thanks,

~Ann

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RE: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App

[Nicki Keck]

Tom, I am having them too.  I am no longer having the threading issue only 
because I turned off threading for now because it's more trouble than it's 
worth to me right now.  I keep hoping for improvement and being disappointed.  
I, too, use a braille display sometimes and it's really important for me to be 
able to use the mail app efficiently, which I don't feel able to do right now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:36 AM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App

Hi all,
I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping 
that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m 
having with the native Mail app.
First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly 
unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just 
deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end 
up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I 
want to read, at which time I can open it.
Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good 
that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I 
have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first 
message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land 
on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t 
show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey 
Braille support can be. 

Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the 
wilderness?

Tom

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RE: What's App

[Nicki Keck]

OH wow!  Thanks, Steve.  I thought that was just an IOS 13 bug we had to live 
with.  I am referring to the second tip you mentioned.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's App

Here are two tips that will make using WhatsApp nicer for you if you're a 
VoiceOver screenreader user (as opposed to a VoiceOver magnification user).


1. On the Settings tab, go to Notifications, and turn off in-app notifications. 
This will stop your phone from buzzing, beeping, and speaking while you're 
using the application.


2. In iOS Settings, go to Accessibility, VoiceOver, then turn off the item that 
automatically describes images. This will stop WhatsApp saying something every 
time a new voice message plays.


On 1/23/2020 5:51 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote:
> Update.
> I thought I was signed in but I wasn't. Once I signed in the download started 
> just fine.
> I haven't paid much attention to posts about What's App since I wasn't using 
> it, but maybe I should have read those posts! I'll see soon enough.
>
> Deidre

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RE: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

[Nicki Keck]

Yes, it is tied to the mobile number.  The way it works with that app I 
mentioned in my previous message is that you have to use your phone to scan the 
QR code, similar to what you do if you want to use the Windows app for Whatsapp.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

WhatsApp is tied to a mobile number, a least I thought it was, I never knew 
that it worked on an iPad.

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 8:27 PM
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Subject: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

WhatsApp works over wifi or cellular data. It doesn't use your carriers SMS or 
phone calls. I don't know about the iPad.


On 1/23/20 7:47 PM, 'jan howells' via VIPhone wrote:
> Are you able to use What's App with wifi? Or is it just used with 
> data? Does it have to be on a phone, or can it be on an iPad?
>
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RE: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

[Nicki Keck]

You can't use Whatsapp on an iPad.  They do have an app that supposedly you can 
use called WhatspadChat but I didn't find it very accessible and it's made by a 
third party.

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Subject: WhatsApp [was "Re: Transferring content to an iPad"]

WhatsApp works over wifi or cellular data. It doesn't use your carriers SMS or 
phone calls. I don't know about the iPad.


On 1/23/20 7:47 PM, 'jan howells' via VIPhone wrote:
> Are you able to use What's App with wifi? Or is it just used with 
> data? Does it have to be on a phone, or can it be on an iPad?
>
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RE: notifications repeating

[Nicki Keck]

And what if you are not near your phone for a few minutes?  I usually am, but 
sometimes I might be typing an e-mail on my computer and I have to stop to go 
dismiss a notification because it's annoying me.  That's when it gets 
irritating.  Fortunately, I always turn on do not disturb at night, or it would 
probably wake me up doing that kind of thing.

-Original Message-
From: 'doug oliver' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: notifications repeating

I get it,  just wish apple would fix this, it's not hard yes, but it does get 
tedius.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: notifications repeating

Yes, it's a bit annoying but dismissing a notification banner isn't so hard, 
just touch near the top left of the screen and then flick down and double tap.


-Original Message-
From: 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: notifications repeating

Not always, I have to dismiss them.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Teresa 
Christian
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: notifications repeating

That is driving me nuts too!
I finally figured out pressing the home button seems to stop it, but still, 
huge drag that you have to mess with it at all.
Teresa☺

On 12/18/19, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hey guys, have you guys noticed in the 13 series of iOS, voiceover's 
> repeating notifications until you dismiss them?
>
> This gets annoying.
>
> I hope Apple fixes them, and this gets looked at.
>
>
>
> Email:
>
> oliver.do...@icloud.com 
>
> Mobile/IMessage/facetime:
>
> (469)597-3392
>
> Secondary email:
>
> oliver.do...@gmail.com 
>
> Life is what you make of it, charish life as it comes, and never give up.
>
> Have a great day all!
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RE: Annoying Facebook App Issue and a VoiceOver Question

[Nicki Keck]

HI Tom,

I have noticed this too.  If you find the answer to this apart from this list, 
would you please share?  Thanks.

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Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:12 PM
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Subject: Annoying Facebook App Issue and a VoiceOver Question

Hi,
For quite some time now, I’ve had this annoying issue when posting or 
commenting on people’s posts in the Facebook app. The scenario goes like this:
I’m typing away, either on the onscreen keyboard, or, more frequently on my 
Braille display. I’ll enter part or all of a word and WHAM! up pops someone’s 
name, completely stealing focus away from my eloquent prose, ha ha. At that 
instant I verbally utter some eloquent and dare I say vociferous curses which 
fortunately won’t make it into my post or comment. I then have to do a lot of 
fiddling about to regain focus on the edit field where I was writing. My 
question, therefore, is whether there’s a way to stop Facebook from popping up 
what it thinks are contact suggestions? If not, is there a way to tell 
VoiceOver to ignore those popups and maintain focus where I’m editing? Thanks 
in advance for any suggestions.
Tom  

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RE: Braille Table in the Rotor

[Nicki Keck]

HI Tom,

This is really confusing, and I had trouble figuring it out too.

What you need to do is go to your braille tables and remove the U.S. English 
braille from the braille tables.  Trust me, you have to do this, or the 
following won't work.
Then, go to where it says, default braille table, UEB.  Double tap on that and 
choose US English contracted braille, and you will be set.  You can remove 
braille table now and it will never change.

The reason just removing braille table from the rotor wouldn't work, at least 
for me, is that it seemed that whenever I rebooted, or did any kind of IOS 
update on the phone (which we all know has been frequent since 13), it changed 
back to UEB.  Also, if you don't remove the US contracted table from your 
braille tables, it won't let you make it the default when you double tap on 
UEB.  Don't ask me why that is, but it won't.  so you first have to remove it 
from your braille tables.

Hope this helps.

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Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:39 PM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: Braille Table in the Rotor

Hi,
I have a couple of questions about Braille Table in the rotor. I use my iPhone 
with a Braille display frequently; in fact, I’m using one now. I have input set 
to eight-dot and output set to contracted. I have NOT switched over to using 
UEB yet and, frankly, I don’t plan to do it until it’s absolutely necessary. 
So, my questions are these:
1. Apple has set the system Braille table to UEB and I can add English US if I 
want to, so I did. Can I set the system Braille table  to English US if I want 
to? Last I checked, I couldn’t find a way to do that.
2. Regardless of the answer to question 1, can I get rid of Braille Table in 
the rotor? If I’ve set my preferred Braille table and don’t see a need to 
change it on the fly, why would I need Braille table in the rotor?

These questions have been bugging me since IOS 13 came out.

Tom 

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RE: Braille Screen Input Strange Noises

[Nicki Keck]

HI Kelby,

I have a feeling your autocorrect might be on in your keyboard settings.  Mine 
is doing the same thing, and it sounds like the sound you hear if there are 
suggestions for what you've typed.  I haven't looked yet, but that's what I 
think it is.  Will say more if I find out for sure, but until then, check your 
keyboard settings.

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carlson
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille Screen Input Strange Noises



Sent from my iPhoneApologies for so many questions in a row today. After the 
updape, I notice that while I type in Braille Screen Input, my phone makes odd 
noises, rather like bubbles popping. Has anyone else heard this? I went into 
Braille Screen Input's septings, but didn't find anything that seemed related. 

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RE: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

[Nicki keck]

You cannot view flash content or listen to flash content with the Firefox IOS 
version can you?  I know you can't with safari or chrome, but I heard of some 
browser that does have the ability but Iheard it from a sighted user so didn't 
know if it would be accessible.

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Subject: Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

anything that firefox does better than Safari? I wish it can let you save files 
for offline listening or viewing. 
(Aside) is there a shortcut key for replying to emails when using bluetooth 
keyboard?)


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> Evening all
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> Subject says it, Firefox has come to iOS and is accessible with 
> VoiceOver with a minor issue or few along with some nice tweaks. 
> Please check out the entry at www.applevis.com I tried it, and like it.
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RE: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

[Nicki keck]

Yes, and I finally got it to work.  I had to uninstall and reinstall the app, 
but now it is working as it should.  I got the idea when my husband tried doing 
it through dropbox and got it to sync, and mine would not even with dropbox.  
Now both are working.

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Subject: Re: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

You can use the BARD app to download books directly from the BARD web site or 
you can use iTunes to copy books you've already downloaded to your computer 
over to your iPhone.

There's no reason you shouldn't be able to add books to the BARD Mobile app 
using your computer and iTunes, since that's a supported feature. 
These two means of getting books onto your iPhone are not mutually exclusive.

The whole point of the BARD Mobile app is to be able to read books on your 
iPhone. Getting books on to your iPhone directly over the network is just one 
feature the BARD Mobile app supports.

On 10/18/2015 08:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> I did not think you were supposed to be able to add books to barred 
> using iTunes. I thought the whole point of the BARD Mobile app was to 
> get books from Bart off of its website using that app. What am I missing?
> Mary
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Nicki keck <jesusgir...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> HI all,
>>
>> I thought I’d try this with some books I had downloaded.  I am using 
>> Windows 10 and JAWS 17.  I tab to BARD mobile and I click on that 
>> with my mouse cursor, because there seems to be no other way to select it.
>> Then, I choose add file and choose the files I want.  Itunes says it 
>> is copying these files to my iPhone, but when I unplug it and go into 
>> BARD Mobile, the files are not showing up in audio books under 
>> bookshelf.  I got one of them to show up, and don’t ask me how.  I’ve 
>> tried resetting the phone multiple times, and I have closed the BARD 
>> Mobile app from the app switcher and gone back in, but the files will 
>> not show up.  If I choose BARD mobile again from the apps, it shows 
>> me the bard mobile documents section with all the files I have added, 
>> but they are not showing up at all in BARD mobile when I open it and 
>> no doorbell sound.  Any ideas?  What could I be missing?
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RE: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

[Nicki keck]

I have never done one, but am looking at doing my own podcasts sometime, so 
maybe I will have to try my hand at doing it.  It’s a little different in 12.3. 
 you still go to the file sharing area, but it’s a bit tricky to get there, and 
you actually have to use your JAWS cursor or other mouse simulation to click on 
BARD mobile for it to register that the app you want to export to is BARD 
mobile.  I cannot get enter or spacebar on the app name to work consistently.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

 

This is where a potcast on using file sharing with itunes 12.3 would be great!

 

From: Nicki keck <mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:18 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

 

HI all,

 

I thought I’d try this with some books I had downloaded.  I am using Windows 10 
and JAWS 17.  I tab to BARD mobile and I click on that with my mouse cursor, 
because there seems to be no other way to select it.  Then, I choose add file 
and choose the files I want.  Itunes says it is copying these files to my 
iPhone, but when I unplug it and go into BARD Mobile, the files are not showing 
up in audio books under bookshelf.  I got one of them to show up, and don’t ask 
me how.  I’ve tried resetting the phone multiple times, and I have closed the 
BARD Mobile app from the app switcher and gone back in, but the files will not 
show up.  If I choose BARD mobile again from the apps, it shows me the bard 
mobile documents section with all the files I have added, but they are not 
showing up at all in BARD mobile when I open it and no doorbell sound.  Any 
ideas?  What could I be missing?

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RE: BARD Mobile Finally Recieves an Update

[Nicki keck]

Wow!  I wanted to test that, because I noticed that when receiving phone calls 
with the previous BARD mobile version.  I was really hoping they had fixed 
this, but had not received a phone call while using it to test this.  Oh well.  
Maybe they will fix it someday.  Thakns for telling us it wasn't fixed.  Yes, I 
agree.  Youd on't have these issues with any other app, and I've done it with 
the music app, Voice Dream, and Overcast without a problem.

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Subject: RE: BARD Mobile Finally Recieves an Update

I agree that the improvements and fixes to BARD Mobile are excellent.

One thing that was not fixed and is fairly minor unless you use the Apple 
earpods for most of your listening as I do, concerns the app not retaining 
focus when interrupted. By this I mean if you're listening to a book and then 
get a phone call which you answer with your earpods remote button, after the 
call ends, pressing the remote button to begin playback again will cause 
whatever had focus before BARD Mobile to start playing, In my case, it's 
usually the music app. BARD Mobile is the only app I use which behaves this 
way. When I'm interrupted using Voice Dream or Audible and other such apps, 
pressing the remote to begin playback when the interruption is completed always 
returns to those apps.

I realize this isn't a big deal as the workaround is to go back to BARD Mobile 
on your iDevice which I do with the App Switcher, press the remote button to 
start playback, and when the other app starts playing, to double tap the BARD 
Mobile play button. This will return focus to it. Since things such as phone 
calls, using the remote to call Siri, and a clock timer going off will cause 
BARD Mobile to lose focus, it is annoying enough that I wish they had fixed it 
with this release.

Another feature I wish the app had was a share button when perusing the more 
info of items in one's wish list. I often want to share info with others about 
something I'm intending to read and this would be a huge convenience.

Alan Lemly

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Wayne Merritt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD Mobile Finally Recieves an Update

Another thing that they added was an add/delete to/from wish list button in the 
more info page for a book. So if you are looking at recent books or magazines, 
then in addition to downloading the book on the more info screen you can now 
add it to your wish list. If however you are looking at the more info page for 
a book that is already in your wish list then that button becomes a delete from 
wish list button. These are awesome additions IMO, since I don't have to 
navigate to the BARD website from within the app or on my computer in order to 
manage my wish list. Also, they fixed the phone/device from locking when a 
download is in progress. There were other things added or fixed aside from the 
sleep timer, so those interested be sure to read the release notes in the App 
Store. I would love to see the ability for BARD to keep track of what you have 
downloaded or marked on your wish list from iCloud, but that is probably on the 
road map for future development. If that were enabled then people would not 
have to keep downloading books between devices that they have already gotten.

Wayne

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RE: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

[Nicki keck]

How did you connect the cartridge to your computer?  Did you need a special 
cable to do this?  I thought it wasn’t a standard USB, but I don’t have one to 
look at right now.  This would be convenient because I might want to get 
courses from Hadley, and the NLS players we have aren’t working well right now. 
 We just haven’t called to get them replaced or sent them back, so if there is 
a way to play them on the BARD mobile app, that would be great.

 

Actually, yes, they were zipped.  The problem ended up being a corrupted 
install or something, as I got it to work beautifully after an uninstall and 
reinstall of the app.  But it was a good thought.  I knew they had to be zipped 
because even the original instructions for iTunes 11 mentioned this.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

 

As Christopher said and using the instructions Russ posted, you can 
successfully transfer BARD books on your computer to your iDevice for playing 
with BARD Mobile using iTunes. 

 

I don't know what the easiest steps are to do this with iTunes 12 since I'm 
still using iTunes 11. I suspect that the failure experienced by the original 
poster in this thread might have been due to the book not being in a zipped 
archive. The general steps she outlined sounded correct since it sounded as if 
she was on the Apps tab for her device and was on BARD mobile in the file 
sharing section which you must be in order to access the add to button. After 
that button is executed, you get a dialog where you can navigate to the files 
you want to add to the app, BARD mobile in this case. These must be zipped 
files as they were when originally downloaded from BARD. 

 

I know this works because I have one of the braille lessons from the hadley 
School which came to me on an NLS cartridge for playing on the NLS digital 
player. I wanted to use my iPhone for playing the lesson so I connected the 
cartridge to my computer and located the lesson files on it and zipped them 
into a single file. When I transferred this file to my iPhone using iTunes, it 
plays beautifully in BARD mobile. 

 

Hopefully others will have more success if they choose to transfer zipped BARD 
books this way and hopefully apple will make file transfers again more 
accessible with future iTunes versions. 

 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com 
<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The following info probably has been changed since it was posted to the 
bardtalk list:

 

Loading books into the BARDmobile app

 

The BARDmobile app is able to play any DAISY/NISO 2005 formatted book. To load 
the

books into the iOS device for playback use the following instructions.

1. If not in a ZIP archive format. You should compress the directory holding 
the books

files into a ZIP file.

2. Connect the iOS device to your computer with a USB cable.

3. Open the iTunes application and select the iOS device button at the right of 
the

main window.

4. select the "Apps" radio button on the main screen.

5. At the bottom of the Apps screen is a section titled "File Sharing" with a 
column

list of apps. One of those will be the BARDmobile app select it.

6. Press the "Add…" button located in the bottom right of the screen. This will 
give

you a dialog to select the ZIP file from step one. The book will then be added 
to

the app. You may need to restart BARDmobile to see the new book.

NOTE:

At this time the BARDmobile app will only play DAISY/NISO 2005 books. Other 
DAISY

formats such as DAISY 2.02 and ePub 3 will simply fail to load.

 

From: Mary Otten <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 6:29 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

 

I did not think you were supposed to be able to add books to barred using 
iTunes. I thought the whole point of the BARD Mobile app was to get books from 
Bart off of its website using that app. What am I missing?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Nicki keck <jesusgir...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com> > wrote:

HI all,

 

I thought I’d try this with some books I had downloaded.  I am using Windows 10 
and JAWS 17.  I tab to BARD mobile and I click on that with my mouse cursor, 
because there seems to be no other way to select it.  Then, I choose add file 
and choose the files I want.  Itunes says it is copying these files to my 
iPhone, but when I unplug it and go into BARD Mobile, the files are not showing 
up in audio books under bookshelf.  I got one of them to show up, and don’t ask 
me how.  I’ve tried resetting the phone multiple times, and I ha

Trying to sync books to BARD Mobile using Itunes 12

[Nicki keck]

HI all,

 

I thought I'd try this with some books I had downloaded.  I am using Windows
10 and JAWS 17.  I tab to BARD mobile and I click on that with my mouse
cursor, because there seems to be no other way to select it.  Then, I choose
add file and choose the files I want.  Itunes says it is copying these files
to my iPhone, but when I unplug it and go into BARD Mobile, the files are
not showing up in audio books under bookshelf.  I got one of them to show
up, and don't ask me how.  I've tried resetting the phone multiple times,
and I have closed the BARD Mobile app from the app switcher and gone back
in, but the files will not show up.  If I choose BARD mobile again from the
apps, it shows me the bard mobile documents section with all the files I
have added, but they are not showing up at all in BARD mobile when I open it
and no doorbell sound.  Any ideas?  What could I be missing?

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RE: Article: How to use your iPhone EarPods like a pro

[Nicki keck]

Don't know if I’m missing something, but I can only find the comments, not the 
article.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Article: How to use your iPhone EarPods like a pro

How to use your iPhone EarPods like a pro:

http://is.gd/unNcB2

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Question about BARD update

[Nicki keck]

What does that improved magic tap response mean?  I was hoping it meant they
fixed the issues with the 2-finger double tap not always working, but a
friend said that wasn't it, so was wondering what the magic tap thing means.

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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Nicki keck]

Oh I love braille screen input!  It has been a game changer for me.  I only 
wish I could get it to follolw me around the rotor like I could in IOS 8.  I 
thoguht Applevis said there was a way to set it to do that again, but I can’t 
find it.  I wish there was a way you could select it as your keyboard all the 
time so that whenever you double tap on a text field, braille screen input 
would pop up.  that kind of setting would be so neat!

My only problem is when I do the space it sometimes thinks for some reason I am 
swiping down and so selects another word and I have to go back up or backspace 
over the word and change it back.  It doesn’t happen often, but it does 
sometimes.

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever since 
iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in iOS that I 
can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns into a dot 4 if 
I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of that gesture like I can 
in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any major problems, especially now 
in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, or specific steps I could try, to 
reproduce the problems you all are having?

  On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado  wrote:


  "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely unreliable 
and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it is junk. Every 
app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like typing on mush. I just 
do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it since I love the phone. By the 
way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 9.02 was better until today. So 
I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 


  reggie & Lex

  On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund  wrote:


  Hello All,
  Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as if 
the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 

  Sent from a Braille Sense 

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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Nicki keck]

thanks.  That worked.  yes I know it is not currently a feature, but it would 
be nice.  may have to write to them about it.

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 4:59 PM
To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

You can do that. Just move BSI to the very first slot in your rotor, and it'll 
follow you again. There's no way to set it to be your default keyboard, at 
least not yet, but please do email Apple Accessibility and ask for that to 
become a setting.

  On Oct 4, 2015, at 16:58, Nicki keck <jesusgir...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Oh I love braille screen input!  It has been a game changer for me.  I only 
wish I could get it to follolw me around the rotor like I could in IOS 8.  I 
thoguht Applevis said there was a way to set it to do that again, but I can’t 
find it.  I wish there was a way you could select it as your keyboard all the 
time so that whenever you double tap on a text field, braille screen input 
would pop up.  that kind of setting would be so neat!

  My only problem is when I do the space it sometimes thinks for some reason I 
am swiping down and so selects another word and I have to go back up or 
backspace over the word and change it back.  It doesn’t happen often, but it 
does sometimes.

  From: Alex Hall 
  Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 4:27 PM
  To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
  Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
indeed?

  Can you explain more? I've been using this feature for over a year, ever 
since iOS8.0, and it has really been one of the biggest game-changers in iOS 
that I can remember. My only problem is how, sometimes, a space turns into a 
dot 4 if I swipe wrong--I wish I could adjust the sensitivity of that gesture 
like I can in mBraille. Aside from that, I've never had any major problems, 
especially now in 9.x. Is there anything I could watch for, or specific steps I 
could try, to reproduce the problems you all are having?

On Oct 4, 2015, at 15:47, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:


"i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely unreliable 
and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it is junk. Every 
app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like typing on mush. I just 
do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it since I love the phone. By the 
way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 9.02 was better until today. So 
I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 


reggie & Lex

On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello All,
Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as if 
the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 

Sent from a Braille Sense 

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RE: TOUCH ID WORKING FOR ME TOO

[Nicki keck]

I wonder.  I had trouble with it in the past, but since I have made a print 
with my middle finger instead of my thumb or index finger, it has worked fairly 
well for me.  But ia may be working even better since 9.

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Hi, I couldn't get the finger print scanner to work for me using my iPhone 5S 
but it works fine since the upgrade to IOS 9 so I wonder if the update has 
improved the finger print sensor.

Best wishes

Paula Pinder

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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Nicki keck]

I am having trouble conceptualizing this too.  I have my mail app set the exact 
same way, so I don’t get it.  I listened to the applevis podcast about it 
today, and I sort of understand how you are supposed to use it, but it didn’t 
seem like something to get excited about, unless I’m really missing something 
big.  True, you could sned a new tweet in tweetings without having to go into 
the app, but usually, when I tweet, it’s when I’m thinking of checking my 
twitter anyway so I would go into the app anyway.

 

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on the 
one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
entire message open. 

 

I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective brains 
to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not getting 
how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app set up to 
read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek at each 
one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read the whole 
thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 

 

As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 

 

Alan Lemly 


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

 

 

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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  > wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  > wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Nicki keck]

Now that messages thing would be pretty cool I agree.

 

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Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

…Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
one.

I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a cool 
list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose from 
the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type or 
dictate. It's pretty slick.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:

 

Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
tapping of home button?
Mary


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On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <  
siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <  
siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com[ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <  
mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <  
jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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RE: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Nicki keck]

Now that would be very nice.  I would welcome that.

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Perhaps the option of reading brf files can be added to voice dream reader?

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Hi all, will this app read .BRF files downloaded with the BARD app?

Have a good one:
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RE: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Nicki keck]

Hi john,

You could probably go to the Web site on your computer and download the .brf 
files from BARD.  Then, you could use Itunes to transfer them into voice 
Braille on your iPhone.  The developer indicated you could use itunes to 
transfer files to their app, so if you did it that way, you could probably read 
the BARD braille books using Voice Braille.

I would not pay for it because I don't need the ability to read braille as 
audio.  If I want to read a brf file, I would rather use my braille display, 
plus the biggest use I would have for doing so is my hymnals I have because 
they are all in .brf format and so if I were going to sing them, it would not 
be condusive to doing so while listening, so I would use my braille display; 
however, not everyone has one, and not everyone is as fluent a braille reader 
as I am, so this app is a great innovation for those who can't read them in 
braille or don't know braille well enough to do so.

I am glad to hear you can open brf files in Access note.  I know this has not 
always been the case.  I will be investigating that very soon.


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John J Jacques
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS


Hi all, I use Voice Dream Reader for all of my Audio book reading that 
isn't Bard, and love it!  I have no problem paying for Voice Braille reader if 
it will play the .BRF files that I can get from BARD, but I suppose I will have 
 to get it to know for sure.  I wish the BARD app would allow Voice Over to 
read the braille files that you can download, but I have heard that they have 
no intention of adding that feature!

Have a good one:
John


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RE: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

[Nicki keck]

I won’t either.  I just wish there was a good app out there besides BARD if you 
download one of their files, that would allow me to open .brf files and read 
them on my braille display.  That’s what I would like.  I don’t believe Access 
note does this, does it?  I don’t have the need to hear .brf files audibly but 
I would love to be able to open them natively without jumping through hoops.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

 

I just looked at the description in the app store.

It is $14.99.

 

I don’t plan to buy it since if I have a braille file, I’ll likely read it in 
braille with a braille display.

 

I expect if it does what it claims, a lot of folks will find it useful though.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jn nt
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:56 PM
To: VIPhone  >
Subject: "Voice Braille Reader", New Leverage to Use Braille Files on iOS

 

Greetings to VIPhone members and friends,


I hope this find you well.  

Excuse us for sudden message.

We are C-FES Co. Ltd, developer of iOS apps and   we have recently released iOS 
app called “Voice Braille Reader” and would like to introduce to VIPhone 
members.

 

“Voice Braille Reader” is optimized with all NABCC compliant BRF and BRL files 
by iOS devices and recite into voices and words on device display.  
Furthermore, we are currently working on optimizing with UEB compliant files 
for future version up as well.

 

We developed and are providing Japanese version of iOS app called BES reader 
from July, 2015 by association with Nippon Lighthouse, Welfare Center for the 
Blind; 

http://www.lighthouse.or.jp/index2e.html

to improve user interface especially made for people who are visually impaired 
and lower-vision.  Of corse, Voice Braille Reader derive its UI and 
manipulation capability entirely from developments with Nippon Lighthouse.

 

We just have released Voice Braille Reader last week and we would like to take 
this opportunity to let it know its usefulness and inovativeness to many people 
of Braille community in the United States.

 

Here is one on review we’ve heard from US user for your reference;

https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/app-for-reading-grade-2-braille-files-on-ios/


Experience it handiness and easy-manipulations of Voice Braille Reader!

Enjoy listening Braille!

Link to iTunes AppStore:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1026634631?ls=1 
 =8


All the Best,

Jun Numamoto
Promotion

C-fes Co., Ltd.

 

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RE: Voice Dream

[Nicki keck]

Did you try closing it in the app switcher and reopening it?  Also, if that 
doesn’t work, you might try resetting your phone by hpolding down the home and 
power buttons for about 15 seconds.

 

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Steve Sweeney
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream

 

Hi,

For some reason when I try to open Voice Dream, it will not open.  It just 
makes the sound as though it was opening then returns to the screen where it 
was launched from.  It is in App switcher but when I click on it there it 
returns to the screen where it is located.  I’ve not run in to this behavior 
before with an app.

Thx –Steve

  

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Re: Overcast versus downcast

[Nicki Keck]

I also really like that voice boost feature, and yes, the quality at higher 
speeds is better than in Downcast. The one disadvantage a friend pointed out to 
me that she didn't like is that Overcast requires you to download the podcasts 
to your iPhone, while with Downcast you have the option to stream them if you 
don't want to download them to your phone.  So if you don't want all your 
podcasts downloading to your phone and have limited space, you might prefer 
Downcast.

Nicki
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I love how good Overcast sounds at fast speeds. The voice boost feature is 
> good too; on a podcast I listened to recently, the host apologized for the 
> disparity in volume between himself and whoever he was talking to on Skype, 
> but I heard no difference thanks to voice boost. As for getting podcasts into 
> Overcast, I'm pretty sure Downcast has the ability to export an OPML feed. 
> You can email this to yourself and open the file in Overcast.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
>> 
>> That has been my experience with both Overcast and downcast as well. The 
>> major advantage with Overcast is the faster speed is better quality. 
>> However, I like the feature set for downcast. I use downcast on my iPhone 
>> exclusively having had exposure to both apps I prefer Downcast.
>> If I want to take my time and listen to a podcast at normal speed I use the 
>> no frills no thrills basic podcast feature in the apple TV which I dearly 
>> hope they improve with the next generation. The iPhone always gets my 
>> podcasts hours before the apple TV does. Another reason I prefer downcast.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cristóbal
>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 2:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Overcast versus downcast
>> 
>> The one advantage I've found with Overcast over Downcast or other podcasting 
>> apps in general is that it can play files at the 3x speed. Downcast used to 
>> be able to do this, but for a while now, once you try to play something past 
>> the 2x speed, the file begins to skip. I've written the Downcast dev about 
>> the skipping issue, but doubt that at this point it'll ever be addressed.
>> Other than that, I can't say I'm much of an Overcast fan. There are some 
>> accessibility things I don't like and I find it to be at times sluggish and 
>> limiting. It is true, that Overcast is meant to be a simplified podcasting 
>> app, but I guess I prefer the more detailed settings Downcast offers.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 10:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Overcast versus downcast
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a couple of questions about the overcast app. I see it is accessible, 
>> but I tried to import my unplayed episodews from Downcast into Overcast. I 
>> followed their instructions but in downcast, there is no option to import 
>> into Overcast. There were a ton of other apps, but not Overcast. I rebooted 
>> my phone thinking maybe it wasn't recognizing that app. Still no luck.
>> 
>> The other question I ha ve is that is the Overcast app any better than 
>> DownCast or is it just a matter of preference? So far, I like both of the 
>> apps.
>> 
>> Thank you so much!
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: NFL games on iPhone

[Nicki Keck]

For now, the Eagles app lets you do it also. The Steelers had a button to do 
it, but it gives you a message that you are not within 50 miles of either 
Pittsburgh or Green Bay, who they were playing today, so therefore  we couldn't 
get it. However, jwe were able to get that game through the Pro Football Radio 
app. I guess with theay things are, it's good to have more than one tool in 
your arsenal.

Nicki
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 On Aug 23, 2015, at 10:21 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I admit the subject is tantalizing but it may not be so great a revelation.
 
 While listening to the Dallas Cowboys pre-season game this evening, Brad Sham 
 stated that the place to go to listen to the game is the Cowboys app. So, 
 just for kicks, I downloaded the app and indeed was able to listen to the 
 game.
 
 There are unlabeled buttons and the second from the top/left appears to 
 play/pause the Cowboys radio feed audio.
 
 I do not know whether other team apps have this functionality nor whether 
 this will carry over to regular season games. But, since there have been so 
 many posts about the ability or inability to possibly access NFL content for 
 the 2015 season, I thought I would share.
 
 
 
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RE: Audio in NFL Mobile

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I agree.  If I can't get the radio play-by-play, then forget it.

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Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Audio in NFL Mobile

Listening to football on the TV is a waste of time.  You hear the croud cheer 
and the announcer says would you look at that!  He's up to the 27 yard line.  
That was one heck of a run.  You don't hear thing one about how the team lines 
up etc.  For me, watching NFL football on TV is useless.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, 40 bucks isn’t bad, but if you don’t care about the TV broadcasts, then 
 $99 is a ripoff just for the audio feeds.
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Actually,last season I had the full audiopass.  I could listen to any team 
 as well as choose which feed I wanted either from the home team or from the 
 visitors broadcast.  Of course when my bears werre playing, I listened to 
 the bears broadcast team but it was fun to listen to the home or away teams. 
  I had the full package which let me listen starting with preseason through 
 the super bowl and I didn't think 40 bucks was bad.
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I did read the page, and in particular, the audio section where it said:
 
  Listen live to every NFL game - including the Playoffs and Super 
 Bowl 50
 
 Also, the old AudioPass subscription required an additional upgrade to get 
 the playoff games.
 
 On 08/10/2015 09:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 If you read the details on that page, in particular the section after 
 platforms with the asterisk, it specifically says it does not include 
 regular season live broadcasts, or the super bowl.
 It also does not mention iOS devices though it says it is coming soon to 
 Apple TV.
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you follow the link below, there's still a section on audio. 
 https://www.nfl.com/gamepass
 
 On 08/09/2015 10:05 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
 It is my understanding that NFL.COM has dropped audio pass. i was 
 told this by several of my football fan friends. I have been a 
 subscriber for years, and was curious as to why I didn't receive 
 my normal annual renewal notice. Also, there is no longer any 
 link for Audio Pass on the NFL.COM site. i guess it's gone.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Kelly Ford
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio in NFL Mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 With another football season about to start, I'm curious if 
 anyone has figured out how to play your audio pass subscription 
 in the mobile version of the NFL app? Playing around with this 
 little bit this afternoon, I'm not finding a way to start the game audio.
 
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Re: another headset question

[Nicki keck]

How much are they and where can you get them?  Don't have the ones that came 
with mine anymore.


-Original Message- 
From: Kimber Gardner

Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: another headset question

I have to agree with this assessment. I have several earbuds/earphones
which I've bought over the years -- everything from the cheapest of
the cheapest to a set of Bose noise-cancelling earbuds which I use for
serious listening. But for everyday use like audiobook listening and
phone calls, I reach most often for the apple earpods. In fact I like
them so well that I just replaced the ones that came with my phone and
no longer worked in one ear.

Kimber

On 8/3/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for 
calls
and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently 
some

people say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am
fortunately one of those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them
in even just lightly they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would
say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones 
which

I use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible
quality and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they
don’t sound as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: another headset question



Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual 
calling,

is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI
too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I
will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don’t 
want
to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when 
I

call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
for that.

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another headset question

[Nicki keck]

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don't do well for actual calling,
is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI
too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that's the best I can get, I
will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don't want
to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I
call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
for that.

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RE: bluez 2 by Aftershokz

[Nicki keck]

So what do you use when making a call?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluez 2 by Aftershokz

 

Yes, indeed. I gave up on using them as a hands free calling solution. Call 
quality is really pretty crappy. I mainly use mine for working out. Stationary 
bike, elyptical, resistance bands/cables, that sort of thing. I do like the 
fact that I can work out with headphones and not get my ears all heated up and 
sweaty. 

I broke my set and ordered a replacement under the warranty. I just fixed the 
broken ones with a cut up old credit card and some electircal tape and sold the 
replacements on eBay instead of holding on to them. Good concept and they’re 
even good for listening, but don’t’ expect any more than that.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: bluez 2 by Aftershokz

 

That's one of m complaints about this headset. Siri and dictation are, I'm 
pretty sure, a limitation of the current bluetooth standard used by Aftershokz, 
and they'd need to make a whole new model to address the problem. Even then, I 
don't know that upgrading to bluetooth 4 or 4.1 would fix things.

 

Call quality is the other problem I've run into. It's like the microphones just 
don't work well, and the volume others hear is very low. I find the Bluez works 
okay in quiet environments, and sometimes I can manage to use it while I'm 
outside, but it's certainly not the best for making calls. Sorry I can't offer 
more positive news.

On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Nicki keck jesusgir...@gmail.com 
mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I have the bluez 2 Aftershokz headset for my iPhone, and I like it a lot, but 
there is one question I have.  The voice quality on phone calls really sucks.  
I had thought maybe sometimes, it was just a bad connection, but it seems like 
it is really hard for people to hear me on it.  Today, when I turned it off 
while talking to a friend, she could hear me a lot better without it, but I 
can’t and don’t want to talk on the phone while holding it to my ear all the 
time.  Also, SIRI and dictation are deplorable with this headset.  Does anyone 
have any tips for getting it to work better, or is there any firmware update or 
something I can get that might improve this?  Any help would be appreciated.

 

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bluez 2 by Aftershokz

[Nicki keck]

Hi all,

 

I have the bluez 2 Aftershokz headset for my iPhone, and I like it a lot,
but there is one question I have.  The voice quality on phone calls really
sucks.  I had thought maybe sometimes, it was just a bad connection, but it
seems like it is really hard for people to hear me on it.  Today, when I
turned it off while talking to a friend, she could hear me a lot better
without it, but I can't and don't want to talk on the phone while holding it
to my ear all the time.  Also, SIRI and dictation are deplorable with this
headset.  Does anyone have any tips for getting it to work better, or is
there any firmware update or something I can get that might improve this?
Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Facebook News Feeds Randomly Displayed on my iPhone.

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Go to the more tab on the bottom right and then choose most recent under feeds.

Nicki
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 30, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Ahmed Khater aakhater@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 News feeds in the facebook App on my 5S iPhone are displayed randomly and 
 they aren’t arranged chronologically. Is there any process whereby I can 
 display the news feeds in a chronological order?
  
 Thank you.
  
 Best Regards
  
 Ahmed Khater
 aakhater@gmail.com
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Audio books from Itunes

[Nicki keck]

Has anyone ever bought an audio book from itunes?  how well does it work 
with either the iPhone or the windows PC?  Can you speed them up or export them 
anywhere?  thanks.  I know there was an issue discussed with the latest update 
and audio books, but I can’t remember what that was also.

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Re: Audio books from Itunes

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Oh so audio books are now in ibooks?  interesting.

From: Andrew Lamanche 
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:03 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Audio books from Itunes

Now that the audiobooks have been moved from itunes to ibooks, what's going to 
happen to the audiobooks I have purchased from Audible?  Will they have been 
moved to ibooks as well?  Or are they still in iTunes? 

Many thanks

Andrew

  On 8 Jul 2015, at 18:29, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

  I bought one or two audio books years ago when listening was still through 
the music app. Anyhow, a lot of iTunes audio books are from Audible and I guess 
Apple just resells them and all in all I think it’s better to become an Audible 
member and get your books there. It will save you money in the long run and 
except for occasional screw-ups with the Audible app it primarily works very 
well. 

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  Has anyone ever bought an audio book from itunes?  how well does it work 
with either the iPhone or the windows PC?  Can you speed them up or export them 
anywhere?  thanks.  I know there was an issue discussed with the latest update 
and audio books, but I can’t remember what that was also.
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Re: Audio books from Itunes

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Well, the reason I was asking is that I can’t really afford an audible 
membership right now, but had some money on an itunes gift card and thought 
about getting one.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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I bought one or two audio books years ago when listening was still through the 
music app. Anyhow, a lot of iTunes audio books are from Audible and I guess 
Apple just resells them and all in all I think it’s better to become an Audible 
member and get your books there. It will save you money in the long run and 
except for occasional screw-ups with the Audible app it primarily works very 
well. 

 

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Nicki keck
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio books from Itunes

 

Has anyone ever bought an audio book from itunes?  how well does it work 
with either the iPhone or the windows PC?  Can you speed them up or export them 
anywhere?  thanks.  I know there was an issue discussed with the latest update 
and audio books, but I can’t remember what that was also.

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RE: IOS 8.4 and Music app

[Nicki keck]

Lori

 

“for you” is where they will give you recommendations based on what’s in your 
library or the categories you like/love.  Also, in that screen is where you can 
search for an artist.  Connect, I’m not sure, but I think you can connect with 
artists/bands.  Radio is where the Beats 1 live station is and the iTunes Radio 
stations.

 

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Lori Dent
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:42 PM
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Subject: IOS 8.4 and Music app

 

Hi all,

 

Earlier  this afternoon I downloaded the newest software update which is ios 
8.4. Well I went to the music app  on my home screen and double tapped on it.  
Okay,  In the left top hand corner it says my account. And  I'm in my library  
where all my alblums  are  listed.  At the bottom of the screen from left to 
right are my music, for you,  what is for you and what does it do? new, what is 
new? radio, what exactly is radio? and connect. What does connect do? Is there 
anything else I need to know about this  new apple's music app? Thanks.

 

Lori and the Gipper

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RE: [Bulk] Re: IOS 8.4

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Yes, I am loving it so far.  My husband and I are finding lots of good classic 
CCM, and I haven't even scratched the surface!  The quality is excellent too.

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I am like a kid in a candy store playing with Apple Music.  All I can say is 
holy crap!  I am impressed.  Updating my software was extremely painless, and 
it was so easy to start up my free trial of Apple Music.  If what I have found 
so far on Apple Music is any indication I will happily pay for this service.  

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RE: accessing audio description in netfliks

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I had to sign out and sign back in to get it done.  I am watching it now on my 
iPhone with audio description.

 

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Hello: On my iphone 4s, running ios 8.3, I tried accessing the audiodescription 
in netfliks for the show Marvel dear devil which, I understand, is described. 
Under the language options I didn’t see the audio description listed. Only the 
one for closed captions. Am I missing something?Thanks for any help.Martin 
Nelson

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Facebook issues

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Hi all,

 

I am having some weird issues with the facebook app and wondering if anyone
else is having these issues.  The biggest issue is that when I go into
notifications, I just get upcoming birthdays and then Voiceover will say,
double tap with 2 fingers to ineract with this item.  Double tapping with
2 fingers doesn't work at all.  I had tried uninstalling and reinstalling
the app, and that worked for a day, but now it is back to not working again.

 

The other issue I that when I go into more and then most recent, I only seem
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RE: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

[Nicki keck]

Yep same here.  Very annoying.

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Donna
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook app now saying product in every story title

Hi

Yes, I have the annoying Facebook glitch. It's almost time for an update for 
Facebook. Facebook releases updates every 2 weeks. The last update was on Mar. 
26th. Hopefully with the next update this glitch will be resolved. 

Donna
 
 I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
 through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product in 
 it. Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it can be 
 fixed.
 Mary
 
 
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Reading with Ibooks and a braille display

[Nicki keck]

Hi all,

is there any way to get ibooks, like kindle does when having the setting on for 
automatically turning pages as you pan,to not show that you are on the next 
page but to just keep showing the text even after you go to the next page?  
Hope I am making sense.  I am sure that at one point, yesterday, it was just 
smoothly going through the text and not displaying that, but I don’t know if it 
was a fluke or something I might have done that I didn’t realize I did at the 
time.  If there is any way to do this, I would be very grateful.  thakns.

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Re: AfterShokz blues and/or blues 2

[Nicki keck]

ih Larry,

I had the wired model and liked them a lot, but they developed a short in them 
and stopped working.

From: Larry Lumpkin 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: AfterSjokz blues and/or blues 2

I use the wired model for blindsquare gps and absolutely love it.  It doesn’t 
sound too good for music but I didn’t buy it for that.  If I have to replace 
the set, I will consider the Bluetooth model because the wired connection gets 
bad after awhile.

 

 

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Subject: AfterSjokz blues and/or blues 2

 

Hi all,

 

Am considering this bluetooth headset and wondering how others like it.  I have 
heard pros and cons on it, and the reviews did say some people had problems.  
I’d rather have a headset than an earpiece, though am considering the 
Plantronix voyager edge as well.  thanks for any thoughts.

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AfterSjokz blues and/or blues 2

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Hi all,

Am considering this bluetooth headset and wondering how others like it.  I have 
heard pros and cons on it, and the reviews did say some people had problems.  
I’d rather have a headset than an earpiece, though am considering the 
Plantronix voyager edge as well.  thanks for any thoughts.

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RE: The Facebook app update

[Nicki keck]

Mine doesn't crash, but I do wish it showed me a bit more of my news feed when 
I go into more and most recent.  Even refreshing content doesn't give me more 
than like 40 updates.

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Hello,
I have discovered that if you uninstall the Facebook app and then reinstall it 
it will stop the crashing.


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Reading on the iPhone with BARD and other apps

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Hi all,

 

I noticed with the BARD app, the 2-finger double tap doesn't always work to
stop playback.  Any workaround for this?  Sometimes, it works, but sometimes
it does not.

 

Also, any way of not missing stuff when you're reading because of
notifications?  What tips do people use?  I could turn on do not disturb,
but there are sometimes text messages,a nd as far as I can tell, you can't
get texts even from your favorites, just calls, when do not disturb is on.
Thanks for any tips.

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RE: uVersion bible app?

[Nicki keck]

I was able to do this with previous versions; however, for the last couple 
months, I have not been able to.

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I tried it ages back and could do it, byh double tapping each verse I wanted.

I havfen't had need of that feature for some time but guess we could all try it 
now you've asked the question ...

Carol P

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Subject: Re: uVersion bible app?


I haven't tried this feature.

On 1/15/15, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you able to select verses for creating notes or sharing with the
 updated version? I have decided not to upgrade until I get this sorted
 out. I love creating notes and/or sharing verses on facebook and such.
 Does anyone have the answer to this? Thanks so much.

 Sharonda

 On 1/15/15, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 The app works very well. You should be able to unsubscribe from their
 email list. I receive very frew from them.

 On 1/15/15, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have a direct link to their notifications page? I'm
 absolutely
 fed up with their constent pestering in my mailbox. Doubt it would stop
 even

 if I trashed the app, which is far from favourite these days.

 I unpikced the source code of the html message and oculdn't find start
 or
 end of the link which seemed to ramble for miles, and looking
 suspiciously
 like executable code.



 This is getting a real nuisance now.



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RE: Latest Facebook update

[Nicki keck]

NO.  I was able to load it just fine.  I have found that this happens 
sometimes, and either facebook or the internet connection must be glitching 
from what I can tell, because I'll go back and do it later, and it works.

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Hello,

I found that the latest facebook update can not load the news feed hwen sord by 
most recent story

anyone have this problem?

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950

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RE: uVersion bible app?

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I guess I need to play with Bible gateway more.  I found it a bit cluttered for 
my taste, and if you wanted to browse the bible books instead of doing a 
search, I found that difficult.  I haven't messed with it in a while, so I 
don't remember all the problems I had doing it, but I know it didn't seem very 
easy at the time.

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They certainly havfe got a pretty smart app now at Bible Gateway, which wasn't 
always the case.

I flit between the two, depending on what I want to do.

I often do my searches via Gateway.

Don't have time to play around enough to say just what works and does not on 
either, sadly, as I need to get on with using it for its purpose, as I need 
right then, before doing something else completely different;  but maybe, when 
I get time to play on my phone, I may do some testing of features on both.

Carol P

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: uVersion bible app?


I hate the way you can't read footnotes with the app. Bible gateway all the 
way for me.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 15, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Are you able to select verses for creating notes or sharing with the
 updated version? I have decided not to upgrade until I get this sorted
 out. I love creating notes and/or sharing verses on facebook and such.
 Does anyone have the answer to this? Thanks so much.

 Sharonda

 On 1/15/15, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 The app works very well. You should be able to unsubscribe from their
 email list. I receive very frew from them.

 On 1/15/15, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have a direct link to their notifications page? I'm
 absolutely
 fed up with their constent pestering in my mailbox. Doubt it would stop
 even

 if I trashed the app, which is far from favourite these days.

 I unpikced the source code of the html message and oculdn't find start 
 or
 end of the link which seemed to ramble for miles, and looking
 suspiciously
 like executable code.



 This is getting a real nuisance now.



 Thanks, RobH.

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RE: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

[Nicki keck]

Regina,

 

If it is a regular Focus 40, without Bluetooth capability, you can’t. W e are 
talking about the Bluetooth version.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

 

I have a Focus 40. How would I hook it to the iPhone Do I have to run it 
through my computer?

reggie and Allegra


On Jan 16, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com 
mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:

Here's a page with specific commands, which also has a link to the more general 
Braille commands. Also, Charles, in answer to your question: no, unfortunately.

 

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202123

 

HtH,

Teresa 

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:26 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com 
mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com  wrote:

Can you change what the wheels do by pressing on them?


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:17 PM

Subject: Re: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

 

I use mine all the time for reading books and writing.  Just be aware that the 
whiz wheels don't have the functionality you might expect. The left one moves 
by increment in the rotor, and the right one does the equivalent of a Voiceover 
right swipe with one finger. The reverse commands naturally do the reverse.

 

HtH,

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net 
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Hi Don,

The focus 40 Classic works great with the ipHone. All the iOS commands are 
supported, and the Bluetooth conenction is very stable. Go for it.

Best,
Anna






On Jan 16, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
mailto:donald.robert...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

I have the original Focus 40 blue, the one with the whiz wheels and want to 
learn to use it with my 4S.  I am writing in the hope that someone will post a 
capsule synopsis of the pros and cons of using the Focus 40 with an IOS device. 
 I seem to recall reading that other braille displays support more of the IOS 
command set than the Focus, I hope to learn its strengths and its weaknesses.  
I did find a podcast from Freedom Scientific, but I didn't find it particularly 
comprehensive.

 

Thanks in advance for feedback.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

[Nicki keck]

I have used an original focus 40 blue with IOS 8, and frankly, I like my Focus 
14 blue with it a lot better.  As you say, more commands are supported.  The 
only way to flick right and left with the original aside from using a chorded 
command to do it each time is to use the wiz wheels.  I really never liked the 
wiz wheels.  They are, at least for me, hard to control.  Also double tapping 
to me isn't intuitive.  I like using the mode button for that on the Focus 14 
blue.  I don't own the original focus 40 blue, and honestly, I'm glad I don't.  
Even with the extra cells, I much prefer my 14 with the iPhone.  Of course, if 
I could get a newer 40, then I would prefer that, but since you're asking about 
the older one, I must tell you that given the choice, I'd take my newer 14 over 
that one any day.  I rejoiced when they got rid of the wiz wheels.  I don't 
know of anyone who really likes them, though there may be someone out there who 
does.


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Donald L. Roberts
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

I have the original Focus 40 blue, the one with the whiz wheels and want to 
learn to use it with my 4S.  I am writing in the hope that someone will post a 
capsule synopsis of the pros and cons of using the Focus 40 with an IOS device. 
 I seem to recall reading that other braille displays support more of the IOS 
command set than the Focus, I hope to learn its strengths and its weaknesses.  
I did find a podcast from Freedom Scientific, but I didn't find it particularly 
comprehensive.

Thanks in advance for feedback.

Don Roberts

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RE: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

[Nicki keck]

I switch back and forth from 8-dot braille to 6-dot contracted.  I am so happy 
now that you can adjust these separately for input and output, as I was 
constantly doing a G-chord by mistake when typing a message, typing in grade 2 
braille before realizing I was not in that mode, and having to backtrack and 
delete and retype.  I always switch to 8-dot input when inputting an e-mail 
address, Web address, or username and password.  I find it works a lot better 
honestly.

HTH,

Nicki


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Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

You may find that eight-dot braille input  - select with one or two presses of 
the 236-chord - will give you more flexibility with braile entry. Also, with 
VoiceOver Help on, pressing keys and chords on the Focus40 will tell you what 
they will do. The 56-chord cycles forward through the rotor, the 23-chord 
cycles backwards, and dot6-chord and dot3-chord cicle forward and back 
respectively in a rotor item's settings.


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From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 original and IOS 8

I'm having trouble with mine.  I think the main problem is that I don't know 
what the heck I'm doing with it at the moment.  Trying to send an Email to 
myself as a test, when typing my Email address in the to field, I get 
gibberish, so I delete it using the onscreen keyboard.  Also figuring out how 
to delete from within the inbox.  I think that what I need is a list of 
commands for the braille display when using firmware 8.1.2 on an iPhone 5.
The firmware of the braille display is 4.57 if that matters.  Any thoughts on 
where to get such a list are appreciated.  Thanks.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Focus 40 original and IOS 8


Hi Don,

The focus 40 Classic works great with the ipHone. All the iOS commands are 
supported, and the Bluetooth conenction is very stable. Go for it.

Best,
Anna



 On Jan 16, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the original Focus 40 blue, the one with the whiz wheels and 
 want to learn to use it with my 4S.  I am writing in the hope that 
 someone will post a capsule synopsis of the pros and cons of using the 
 Focus 40 with an IOS device.  I seem to recall reading that other 
 braille displays support more of the IOS command set than the Focus, I 
 hope to learn its strengths and its weaknesses.  I did find a podcast 
 from Freedom Scientific, but I didn't find it particularly comprehensive.

 Thanks in advance for feedback.

 Don Roberts

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Plantronix voyager Legend headset question

[Nicki keck]

Hi all,

I now have the Plantronix voyager Legend headset, and it seems I have muted the 
microphone so I can’t talk or give it a voice command.  if I try to make a 
call, it keeps saying “mute on.”  I saw a review of this on applevis that said 
the mute button is the same as the vioce button, which gets you into the vioce 
commands interface, and it said that when on a call, I can press that button to 
unmute, but it is not unmuting.  It just keeps saying mute on or beeping.  
also, the review said that you press the button once to unmute or hold it down 
for the voice command interface.  Problem here is I don’t have to hold it down 
for the command interface to come up; I press it and it says say a command 
immediately.  of course, I can’t actually give it one because it is muted.  any 
help would be appreciated.  obviously, something isn’t right here.

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Re: Plantronix voyager Legend headset question

[Nicki keck]

Tried that and nothing.  It emits a low tone but nothing else.

From: Lois Butterfield 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Plantronix voyager Legend headset question

Have you tried pushing the button and holding it until something else happens?  
Just ignore the command prompt and keep holding and see what happens.

Good luck.

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From: Nicki keck 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Plantronix voyager Legend headset question

Hi all,

I now have the Plantronix voyager Legend headset, and it seems I have muted the 
microphone so I can’t talk or give it a voice command.  if I try to make a 
call, it keeps saying “mute on.”  I saw a review of this on applevis that said 
the mute button is the same as the vioce button, which gets you into the vioce 
commands interface, and it said that when on a call, I can press that button to 
unmute, but it is not unmuting.  It just keeps saying mute on or beeping.  
also, the review said that you press the button once to unmute or hold it down 
for the voice command interface.  Problem here is I don’t have to hold it down 
for the command interface to come up; I press it and it says say a command 
immediately.  of course, I can’t actually give it one because it is muted.  any 
help would be appreciated.  obviously, something isn’t right here.
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RE: KNFB Reader

[Nicki keck]

Chris, you should be able to do this.  I got a gift card a few weeks ago and 
had no trouble getting the code from it using this app.

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Subject: KNFB Reader

Hi all
Changed subject and started a new thread.
While the KNFB Reader came out on or shortly after iOS 8 day, it took me till 
Christmas to get it. I was patient like anybody else. I thought Christmas was 
the right time to get it plus it was on sale at about half price. I'm going to 
try and have a go with it today or over the weekend to get the codes for my 
various gift cards I received as presents yesterday.

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Question about using braille input on touch screen

[Nicki keck]

Hi all,
I have an iPhone 5S, and most of the time, braille input works well for me, but 
sometimes, I will switch to braille input, and it will say like it is supposed 
to for how I have the phone, landscape, home button to the left, tabletop 
mode.  But sometimes, I will not move the phone, I will be still and starting 
to type whatever I want, and it will start switching spontaneously to screen 
away mode and switching my landscape to home button to the right.  Has anyone 
else had this happen? S ometimes, it's just perfect and it stays where it is 
supposed to.  I have tried seeing if positioning the phone in a better position 
makes it stop, but nothing seems to make much difference.  Any way to 
counteract this or keep it from happening?


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Words with Friends

[Nicki Keck]

Hi alleaI was wondering if this app is accessible. Last I heard or tried it, it 
was not, and I looked on Applevis and saw that the last  comments there 
indicated it is not; however, that was in January, and I thought some things 
were posted to this list that indicated people were playing it, so thought I 
would check. My mom plays it, and it would be nice to have a game I can play 
with her. Tried to talk her into Hanging with Friends, but have not been 
successful so far.

Thanks for any help.

Nicki
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RE: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every quarter hour

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I'll check the volume.  Hadn't turned off the notifications yet but know how
so will check that.  I am sure it said switch button on for the chimes.

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Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every
quarter hour

1. Does it say play chimes switch button on  in the app when you flick
across to check all the settings? That's right before: chime style
Westminster.

2. Do you have sounds turned on for it in Notifications while having it not
included for notifications otherwise?

3. I always have mine in my app switcher though I am not sure this is
necessary.
4. I think this isn't probably a problem but remember that the volume is
relative to your phone's volume. So if it is on medium but you don't have
your phone turned up, the volume won't be very loud. Just covering all bases
with those last two.

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
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On Oct 11, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, I can't get mine to chime at all.  I have my volume set to 
 medium, my start and end time set the way I want, I have all the 
 checkboxes checked for each part of the quarter hour, and it says 
 chime is Westminster chime, which is what I want, but still it does not
chime.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:04 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 Actually, it does work though it took me a while to figure out. At 
 first I tried changing something in Westminster chimes itself but it's 
 in the notification center that you actually do it. I had to do the 
 same with chime and hourly chime.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 11, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 No, that never worked for me, tried for two weeks to shut up the 
 speech keeping only the chimes, then I removed it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Robin Frost
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:29 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 Hi,
 I believe the instruction from the app's maker suggest turning off 
 notification center banners and alerts and leaving sounds set to on 
 to optimize the experience of the app.
 I hope that helps.
 Robin
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gail the U. S. Male
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:20 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 every time my Westminster chimes app is running, I get a notification 
 in my notification center, every time the app does anything. does 
 this app behave that way?  I love the chimes, but don't like having 
 to clear all the notifications out of the notification center.
 - Original Message -
 From: Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 
 I was extremely upset when my phone was replaced and I realized that 
 Chime was no longer in the App Store. However, try Timely. It does 
 the same things and the voice is better.
 Best of luck.
 
 Regards,
 Paula Mack
 
 On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Cathy cats.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a chime app that will speak the time at the hour half hour 
 and quarter hour?  This is why I hate it that chime is no longer in 
 the
 store.
 
 I am so afraid that I will loose it when I activate my new phone.  
 Just got it today.  I am excited about getting it.  It is the 
 i-phone 6.  Oh well, Just hoping there is another app that will give 
 me a voice instead of a chime.  I like the chime, but I rely on 
 hearing the
 time, lol.
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RE: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every quarter hour

[Nicki Keck]

You can go into settings and notifications I believe and it has all your
apps listed individually so that you can modify the notifications for each
one.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gail the U. S. Male
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every
quarter hour

Hi Robbin, it does, except I want other notifications, so can't disable them
all, and I didn't find any way to do this in the app settings itself.
- Original Message -
From: Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every
quarter hour


Hi,
I believe the instruction from the app's maker suggest turning off
notification center banners and alerts and leaving sounds set to on to
optimize the experience of the app.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Gail the U. S. Male
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every
quarter hour

every time my Westminster chimes app is running, I get a notification in my
notification center, every time the app does anything. does this app behave
that way?  I love the chimes, but don't like having to clear all the
notifications out of the notification center.
- Original Message -
From: Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every
quarter hour


I was extremely upset when my phone was replaced and I realized that Chime
was no longer in the App Store. However, try Timely. It does the same things
and the voice is better.
Best of luck.

Regards,
Paula Mack

 On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Cathy cats.car...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a chime app that will speak the time at the hour half hour and 
 quarter hour?  This is why I hate it that chime is no longer in the store.

 I am so afraid that I will loose it when I activate my new phone.  Just 
 got it today.  I am excited about getting it.  It is the i-phone 6.  Oh 
 well, Just hoping there is another app that will give me a voice instead 
 of a chime.  I like the chime, but I rely on hearing the time, lol.
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RE: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every quarter hour

[Nicki Keck]

Actually, I can't get mine to chime at all.  I have my volume set to medium,
my start and end time set the way I want, I have all the checkboxes checked
for each part of the quarter hour, and it says chime is Westminster chime,
which is what I want, but still it does not chime.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and every
quarter hour

Actually, it does work though it took me a while to figure out. At first I
tried changing something in Westminster chimes itself but it's in the
notification center that you actually do it. I had to do the same with
chime and hourly chime.

--
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And now, every day:
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and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Oct 11, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:

 No, that never worked for me, tried for two weeks to shut up the 
 speech keeping only the chimes, then I removed it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Robin Frost
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:29 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 Hi,
 I believe the instruction from the app's maker suggest turning off 
 notification center banners and alerts and leaving sounds set to on to 
 optimize the experience of the app.
 I hope that helps.
 Robin
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gail the U. S. Male
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:20 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 every time my Westminster chimes app is running, I get a notification 
 in my notification center, every time the app does anything. does this 
 app behave that way?  I love the chimes, but don't like having to 
 clear all the notifications out of the notification center.
 - Original Message -
 From: Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Is there a chime clock app that strikes every hour and 
 every quarter hour
 
 
 I was extremely upset when my phone was replaced and I realized that 
 Chime was no longer in the App Store. However, try Timely. It does the 
 same things and the voice is better.
 Best of luck.
 
 Regards,
 Paula Mack
 
 On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Cathy cats.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a chime app that will speak the time at the hour half hour 
 and quarter hour?  This is why I hate it that chime is no longer in the
store.
 
 I am so afraid that I will loose it when I activate my new phone.  
 Just got it today.  I am excited about getting it.  It is the i-phone 
 6.  Oh well, Just hoping there is another app that will give me a 
 voice instead of a chime.  I like the chime, but I rely on hearing the
time, lol.
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RE: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

[Nicki Keck]

I can use my Bluetooth headset just fine, which is reported as using airplay, 
but I tried it with the Apple TV today and ever since IOS 8.0.2, I cannot do 
it.  I did it fine with 8.0.  so yes, I think we have another bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could somebody who has an Airplay device test Airplay

 

I've only used my iPhone 5S with my airport express, but it has worked fine. It 
seems like it took a little longer to see the airport express, but once it did, 
VoiceOver stayed on the device and audio went to the express and into my 
stereo. 

Did the iPod Touch work correctly before iOS 8?

If so, that sounds very much like another bug.

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:

Hello,

 

I was quite shocked when I just wanted to send an Audible book to my Airport 
Express which is connected to my Sonos system. I was using my wife’s iPod Touch 
and at first Airplay was not even an option in Control Centre. It also appears 
that Audible has finally followed Apple’s lead and taken it out of the app 
which means the only way to activate Airplay is via the Control Centre.

So, I rebooted the iPod Touch Fifth Gen which I recently upgraded to iOS 8.0.2 
and then Airplay was there. I selected Sonos and was shocked to find that 
Voiceover was sent to Sonos along wit hthe stream from Audible.

This was definitely not the case before the iOS 8.0.2 upgrade and if Apple has 
indeed messed this up we are back to where we were when Airplay was first 
introduced which I think was in iOS 5. Just as it was back then the reaction 
time between swiping or touching something and it being announced via Airplay 
is about 4 seconds… absolutely terrible.

I have been trying to play something via Airplay on my iPhone 5S, but can’t 
even get the Airplay option to show up in Control Centre.

 

OK, now I did another reboot of my iPhone and was able to select Airplay and 
with great relief I am finding that Voiceover remains on the device and is 
responsive. However, another reboot of the iPod Touch Fifth Gen still sends 
Voiceover to the Airplay device which really is not good. The Voiceover sounds 
and other click and systems sounds play on the device so I assume this is 
definitely a bug.

I will have to write to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com  about this.

 

As I said, maybe whoever has an Airplay device can do some checking especially 
if you own multiple devices such as an iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

[Nicki Keck]

I am happy to report that Cheryl’s tips have helped me and now I am using 
braille input fairly effectively.  The only problem I had was one of my own 
making, after I figured it out.  I switched to 6dot uncontracted so that my 
characters would be spelled out.  Kept thinking I should be using computer 
braille and so kept pressing dots 4-6 for a period and getting underscore and 
getting frustrated, until it hit me, 6-dot uncontracted would mean regular 
grade 1 braille.  So once I figured out that, I am actually really happy with 
the 6-dot uncontracted, because getting dots 1-6 figured out is enough; I don’t 
want to deal with dots 7 and 8 as well.  I think I may even switch to 6-dot 
uncontracted on my braille display as well.  I still make some mistakes, but I 
am way better than I was and it is faster even than direct touch typing.  I may 
even remove fleksy, which isn’t working right for me anyway, as braille input 
for me is faster than even that.  So thakns for all the help.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

You do have to choose Braille in each edit field.

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,

 

I haven't seen the manual or anything yet and do not have IOS 8 yet but I have 
one question about the braille input keyboard.

 

Is it possible to tell the phone to always use braille in any edit field?  Or, 
do we always have to switch it to braille each time we move to an edit field?

 

thanks.

 

Dan Beaver 

 

From: Sandy Finley mailto:finleykn...@gmail.com  

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:01 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

Nicki and others, 

 

I don’t know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned 
from  others that helped me with the braille input.

 

1.When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right. The 
Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your rotor 
follows the edit field around. 

 

2.   I find it useful  to use away mode. For some reason, when in table 
mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards.

 

3.   Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write.

 

Unfortunately, when trying to  use  contracted Braille the app does not echo 
characters. I like to have characters echoed at this point so I write in 
unconstructed Braille.

 

4.   Flick once left to erase a character and once right for space.

5.

6.   When done rotor once left or right, then you can use VO gestures 
again. HTH

 

Sandy 

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RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

[Nicki Keck]

I tried screen away mode because that was what the podcaster was doing, but
I, like you, Cheryl, prefer tabletop mode, now that I have it working.  I
never was good at using a slate and stylus, so Perkins is the way to go for
me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

Well, I would say that for me away mode is more like the feel of using a
slate and stylus and the tabletop mode is more like a Perkins brailler would
feel. I happen to be better at tabletop because it gives my fingers the
feeling that they are typing on a Perkins brailler or my Braille Edge. But
it's nice that there is more than one way to do it.

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:





I can now enter my passcode in both modes, though my overall accuracy is
better in screen-away mode. To me, the difference between this method and a
Perkins is like the difference between Braille on displays and on paper.
They're different, but similar enough.

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  mailto:mehg...@icloud.com
mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Undeoubtedly, it's far different and takes getting used to. As you said,
though, it is often easier to be able to type out something in braille than
hook up a notetaker or display, and it certainly makes entering my passcode
easy. If possible, give it a try, long enough to really test it out and get
accustomed to how it works. It might not be for you, but the convenience is
definitely worth at least giving it a shot to see for sure.

On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Rose Combs  mailto:roseco...@q.com
roseco...@q.com wrote:





Maybe I am crazy, but as a user of a braille no taker, albeit an old one and
a Perkins Brailler, I just cannot wrap my head around using an onscreen
braille writing tool.  Sometimes it would be much wiser but, I have never
tried it. 

 

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:37 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

this is awesome information. Thanks! I am writing this in Braille

!

Sharonda

Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes 


On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Neal Ewers  mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

That's interesting that they give you both modes. It takes me back to the
days when I used a slate and stylus and when you were writing, dots one,
two, and three were on the right side. Of course, note takers and braille
displays reversed this, but I find it interesting that you have both on the
device.

 

Neal

 

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
OfSandy Finley
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:01 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out

 

Nicki and others,

 

I don't know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned
from  others that helped me with the braille input.

 

1.   When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right.
The Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your
rotor follows the edit field around.

 

2.  I find it useful  to use away mode. For some reason, when in table
mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards.

 

3.  Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write.

 

Unfortunately, when trying to  use  contracted Braille the app does not echo
characters. I like to have characters echoed at this point so I write in
unconstructed Braille.

 

4.  Flick once left to erase a character and once right for space.

5.   

6.  When done rotor once left or right, then you can use VO gestures
again. HTH

 

Sandy

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RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

[Nicki Keck]

Actually, tabletop mode is more like a perkins and screen away mode is more
like a slate and stylus.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

The more I hear about doing braille input on the phone the more confused I
get.  Nothing new in that over the past several months, I am of two minds
whether to bite the bullet or not, sounds to me like to use tabletop I would
have to think like I was writing with a slate and stylus, and I have never
been particularly adept at that.  

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:25 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

Agreed, especially on my iPad where I am very fast at typing in Braille on
there. As for the phone once I got the correct orientation I can quite
happily type in Braille on there too. I use tabletop mode only.


Sent from my Macbook Pro 

 

On 26 Sep 2014, at 20:22, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com  wrote:

 

Well, I would say that for me away mode is more like the feel of using a
slate and stylus and the tabletop mode is more like a Perkins brailler would
feel. I happen to be better at tabletop because it gives my fingers the
feeling that they are typing on a Perkins brailler or my Braille Edge. But
it's nice that there is more than one way to do it.

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
mailto:batsfly...@me.com  wrote:

 

I can now enter my passcode in both modes, though my overall accuracy is
better in screen-away mode. To me, the difference between this method and a
Perkins is like the difference between Braille on displays and on paper.
They're different, but similar enough.

 

Teresa

We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall  mailto:mehg...@icloud.com
mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Undeoubtedly, it's far different and takes getting used to. As you said,
though, it is often easier to be able to type out something in braille than
hook up a notetaker or display, and it certainly makes entering my passcode
easy. If possible, give it a try, long enough to really test it out and get
accustomed to how it works. It might not be for you, but the convenience is
definitely worth at least giving it a shot to see for sure.

On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Rose Combs  mailto:roseco...@q.com
roseco...@q.com wrote:

 

Maybe I am crazy, but as a user of a braille no taker, albeit an old one and
a Perkins Brailler, I just cannot wrap my head around using an onscreen
braille writing tool.  Sometimes it would be much wiser but, I have never
tried it. 

 

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:37 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

 

this is awesome information. Thanks! I am writing this in Braille

!

Sharonda

Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes 


On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Neal Ewers  mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

That's interesting that they give you both modes. It takes me back to the
days when I used a slate and stylus and when you were writing, dots one,
two, and three were on the right side. Of course, note takers and braille
displays reversed this, but I find it interesting that you have both on the
device.

 

Neal

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
OfSandy Finley
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:01 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out

 

Nicki and others,

 

I don't know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have learned
from  others that helped me with the braille input.

 

1.   When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the right.
The Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille setting on your
rotor follows the edit field around.

 

2.  I 

RE: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

[Nicki Keck]

3-finger swipe down.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out

Hello all, how do you change to grade one on the ios braille keyboard? This
is the first note on the on screen keyboard for me. 


reggie and Allegra

On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

Well I definitely think all the explanations are good. But it doesn't
matter. I can get the dots going the right way in explore mode but when I
actually enter something, it simply isn't useable. It often says I've got
four fingers down when someone tells me visually that I have only three
which is the intent. And I'll get dot six for the upper case but instead of
the upper case I it always enters 9 for example. Practicing several hours
I've made about three readable words. definitely not bothering to do this
for my unlock code, LOL. So I'm moving on to better ways of using my time
and hoping it's better at some future time.



 On 9/26/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 I can now enter my passcode in both modes, though my overall accuracy 
 is better in screen-away mode. To me, the difference between this 
 method and a Perkins is like the difference between Braille on displays
and on paper.
 They're different, but similar enough.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
 seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Undeoubtedly, it's far different and takes getting used to. As you 
 said, though, it is often easier to be able to type out something in 
 braille than hook up a notetaker or display, and it certainly makes 
 entering my passcode easy. If possible, give it a try, long enough to 
 really test it out and get accustomed to how it works. It might not 
 be for you, but the convenience is definitely worth at least giving 
 it a shot to see for sure.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 Maybe I am crazy, but as a user of a braille no taker, albeit an old 
 one and a Perkins Brailler, I just cannot wrap my head around using 
 an onscreen braille writing tool.  Sometimes it would be much wiser 
 but, I have never tried it.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw
 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Braille Input: What Helped me Figure it out
 
 this is awesome information. Thanks! I am writing this in Braille !
 
 Sharonda
 Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes
 
 On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
 wrote:
 
 That's interesting that they give you both modes. It takes me back 
 to the days when I used a slate and stylus and when you were 
 writing, dots one, two, and three were on the right side. Of course, 
 note takers and braille displays reversed this, but I find it 
 interesting that you have both on the device.
 
 Neal
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sandy Finley
 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Braille Inpput: What Helped me Figure it out
 
 Nicki and others,
 
 I don't know if this will help you but here is a set of steps I have 
 learned from  others that helped me with the braille input.
 
 1.   When you land in an edit field turn your rotor once to the
 right. The Braille keyboard is usually there because the Braille 
 setting on your rotor follows the edit field around.
 
 2.  I find it useful  to use away mode. For some reason, when in
 table mode, dots 1, 2, 3 appear on the right so everything is backwards.
 
 3.  Once in a way mode, Do not calibrate just write.
 
 Unfortunately, when trying to  use  contracted Braille the app does 
 not echo characters. I like to have characters echoed at this point 
 so I write in unconstructed Braille.
 
 4.  Flick once left to erase a character and once right for space.
 5.
 6.  When done rotor once left or right, then you can use VO gestures
 again. HTH
 
 Sandy
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RE: I love braille input in iOs 8!

[Nicki Keck]

Well I am going to try the suggestions you posted in the other thread about
this and see if they work for me.  I am used to the perkins braille writer
also.  So if I can get it to work that way, then I think it could work for
me.

 

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Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I love braille input in iOs 8!

 

Don't be discouraged! That's how I felt about Mbraille! Everybody else kept
raving about it and I didn't want to admit I just couldn't seem to get it!

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com
mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com  wrote:





Man I have tried, but just can't get the hang of it.

Nicki

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 25, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com  wrote:

Somehow I never got the idea of mbraille; I don't know if I got stuck on
calibration or what my problem was. But I have caught on to the built-in
braille screen input and I am loving it!

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

[Nicki Keck]

The app store bug is still present, as is the sluggishness when inputting on
a braille display.  Haven't gotten any calls yet so don't know about that
one.  VO does seem a bit more responsive though.

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I have updated to 8.02 and not any improvements at all. Still can not use
the share function while texting.
Cathy  and Tiny.

 On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:54 AM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have just downloaded it. So far I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't
seem to crash as much. Also entering a space in braille seems a lot more
reliable, although the issue still exists somewhat. 
 
 This is what I have noticed so far. I will report further, if I notice
more improvements. 
 
 So far, I see no reason for those on IOS8 not to upgrade. 
 
 Cheers,
 Brett. 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 26 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Shai shai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Has anyone had a chance to download IOS 8.02 and if so, what 
 VoiceOver bugs have been resolved? I was particularly waiting for the 
 keypad and sharing issues to be addressed. Has anyone had a chance to 
 try these out and confirm whether or not they are still present?
 Thanks in advance for any responses
 
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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

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My problem with Fleksy is that when I turn voiceover off, sometimes, even 
though I have speech feedback switched on, I get no speech at all.  I did at 
first, but then it stopped.  I had reinstalled it after not getting the speech 
feedback, and then I got it again, but then it stopped working again.  I truly 
wish I knew why.

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I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover on. 
You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I went 
to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not noticing much 
improvement.

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RE: IOS 8.02 and VoiceOver

[Nicki Keck]

I had the same problem.  You have to go into settings and general and
keyboards and make sure the allow access checkbox is checked.  I can't
remember the exact wording, but I hadn't done that and couldn't turn voice
feedback on.  Once I did that, I was able to turn it on.  However, like I
said previously, it is not working for me at all.

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Well, how did you get Flexi to work without voice over running. I can't even
turn on the voicing option for Flexi.

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

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 I also updated, and noticed that Fleksy still does not work with voiceover
on. You have to turn voiceover off to get Fleksy to work at all. Then when I
went to activate the menu, if Lexi crashed about three times. I'm not
noticing much improvement.
 
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Re: I love braille input in iOs 8!

[Nicki Keck]

Man I have tried, but just can't get the hang of it.

Nicki
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 25, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Somehow I never got the idea of mbraille; I don't know if I got stuck on 
 calibration or what my problem was. But I have caught on to the built-in 
 braille screen input and I am loving it!
 
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RE: Some Tips On Braille On-screen Input

[Nicki Keck]

I never used m-Braille so admittedly, I am new to braille input on a touch
screen.  But I go into explore mode and hit what I thihnk should be dot 1
and it says 2 instead and I move over and can't get to dot 1.  I am really
having trouble really getting where the dots are positioned on the screen.
I have tried both tabletop and away modes.  I do a bit better with away
mode, but not much.  What's weird is the first time I tried it, I did it
successfully but since then I have gotten no where.  The patterns just don't
make any sense to me.  And it's funny.  It will say screen away mode, home
button to the right and my home button is not on the right and when I move
it to the right it then says tabletop mode, home button to the left and so
it seems almost like my home button is opposite what it should be.  And the
person who said you don't have to have your home button where they say,
wouldn't the dots be harder to find if it is not where VO says it should be?

I do have a braille display, but would like to master this braille input for
times I don't want to use it but want to type something.  I have tried and
done successfully direct touch typing, but I think if I could just get this,
it would be even faster than that.  I know braille very well, having learned
it when I was 6, both grade 1 and grade 2 or contracted braille.  I do input
very successfully with my braille display, though the sluggishness in IOS 8
is driving me batty.  But that's a topic for another thread.  So it's not a
matter of me not knowing braille well enough.  But this truly has me
baffled, and I've listened to the applevis podcast multiple times.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some Tips On Braille On-screen Input

I don't think you can make that comparison with your 4s unless the new
braille input really is exactly mbraille. The only reason I question this is
that for some reason, though I know other people had great success and I am
glad for them, I never could at all master mbraille and yet I am doing well
with the built-in system. That's not a criticism of mbraille or a defense of
the built-in system; it just makes me question whether the two systems are
actually totally the same and can be reliably compared as to the performance
of mbraile on a 4s still running iOS7 and the built-in system   on a phone
running iOS8. It seems to me that for me to have had so much trouble with
one and be doing well on the other, there must be some difference between
the two but i don't know what that difference would be. What does seem
obvious is that some people who do well on mbraille are having trouble with
the built-in system and at least one person who could not manage mbraille is
doing well with the built-in system.

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 25, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I think I'm following all the instructions just fine. I haven't 
 seen anything I didn't know. But when I'm in exploring mode, I get one 
 pattern correctly named, change one figer and it gives me an entirely 
 unrelated pattern even though some fingers have not moved at all. I 
 get the same results in table top or landscape mde. I can confirm that 
 with my 4S, which was not upgraded, I can still use MBraille just 
 fine. So there may be something about my phone itself.
 
 On 9/25/14, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 Actually, the home button does not have to be on the left for 
 tabletop mode though the default has the dots going 1 through 6 from 
 left to right with the home button the left so that turning it with 
 the home button on the right would make them backwards. . You can go 
 to away mode and then turn the phone around with the home button 
 facing right and go back to tabletop mode and get dots 1 through 6 
 still going from left to right. The same is true in away mode; the 
 home button does not have to be on the right. Everything is totally 
 reversible and you can have the home button wherever you want it at any
time.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 

RE: Braille Keyboard in iOs8

[Nicki Keck]

Yeah I can't either.  The podcasts make it sound so easy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Keyboard in iOs8

 

Yes, and no matter what I do I can't get things to come out normally. I
thought it was just me; glad to know others are having this problem, even if
it proves to be yet one more bug.

On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com
mailto:finleykn...@gmail.com  wrote:





When I calibrate the dots on the Braille keyboard there is a difference in
Table and Away modes. In Table mode dots 1, 2, and 3 appear on the right of
the cell; in Away mode they appear on the left. This means that the Table
Mode produces a backwards Braille cell. Is anyone else having this issue?

 

 

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RE: Direct touch typing

[Nicki Keck]

So am I, but I'm also getting good at hitting the right keys too.  The more I 
do it, the better I am getting at it.

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference 
is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat 
before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong 
character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch 
typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct 
touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the 
character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at 
all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I 
practice direct touch typing.

On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my 
 finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct 
 touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, 
 you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch 
 typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It 
 sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I 
 think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing 
 more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if 
 that makes sense.

 Teresa

 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
 seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 mailto:chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either.
 When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to 
 enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the 
 edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character 
 I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I 
 guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the 
 descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me.

 On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then 
 lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch 
 Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be 
 immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion 
 here?

 Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
 mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it?
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*
 On
 Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth
 *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone
 *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing
 It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead 
 of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap 
 to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the 
 letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard.

 Sent from my Macbook Pro
 On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin alvin@gmail.com 
 mailto:alvin@gmail.com mailto:alvin@gmail.com wrote:




 Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct 
 touch typing?
 Thank you.

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RE: Trying direct touch typing!

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Hey how does that work?  I have been trying to figure that one out.  It
seems lke it would be cool but I am not getting it.

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This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!

Jose Lomeli
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RE: Braille Display Entry Laggy In ios8

[Nicki Keck]

Thakns for this.  I was not aware of this keystroke.  Will try this.

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Subject: Re: Braille Display Entry Laggy In ios8

Hi, teresa,

Even with automatic braille translation on, pressing dots 4-5-chord can help
get the braille caught up with you. This is particularly true when you type
text and can't press Enter until text entry has caught up. I hope that's of
some help.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, guys,
 
 I am aware that there are issues with Braille, but I just want to
double-check to be sure I'm not missing a method to make things more
efficient. If I don't have automatic translation on, I have an extra
keystroke to press, and if I have it switched on, it takes awhile for it to
catch up. It's not as responsive as it used to be. It seems that with
automatic translation on, it still shows the buffer on the Braille display,
and sometimes characters simply don't register. I Braille pretty fast, and
it's kind of hard to slow down and still be accurate. My rhythm gets
messed up. :) Has anyone found workarounds for speeding up Braille on the
display? If I turn off automatic translation, how big is the buffer?
 
 Teresa 
 
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with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
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RE: College Football

[Nicki Keck]

I also have to say I liked tune In Radio's coverage this year.  True, they
probably don't have every team and every game, but the ones they do have are
the ESPN Radio feeds, which are nice and unbiased.  Also, the games I really
wanted were available that way.  I got the Alabama game, and when there
wasn't a game on in which either particular team was one I was totally
passionate about, I checked out the Purdue game and it was a really good
game too.  So that is also an option.  Maybe it's not one you want as your
only option, but it is nonetheless.  Oh they also had the Compass college
feeds too which were also unbiased.  Unless I have a team I am particularly
rooting for, I really enjoy when I can get unbiased coverage.  Now I usually
like the Bama broadcasters, but because it was there and easy, I chose the
ESPN ones.  And when it comes to pro, and the Eagles are playing, I don't
care how tired or easy it is, I will not choose an unbiased feed; Eagles
network all the way grin  but I digress.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: College Football

There are several different ones. The one I am using costs 9.99 per month,
and is listed as College Sports Live in the app store. You will need to use
a computer to sign up, and to put your credit card information in. It is
through CBS interactive, and is what used to be All Access through College
Sports TV. So far, it is usable with Voiceover. You just need to make sure
that the teams you like are among the teams they carry. I'm sure others will
tell you about other apps I own that you don't have to subscribe to, and
they are some good ones, but you take a chance that none of the radio
streams offered in those apps will work on all games. I really like college,
football, and try to get as many options to listen as I can even if it
requires several different apps to get what I want. Hope this helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Is there an app similar to NFFL mobile for College Football?
 Thanks
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from 
 my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
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RE: FaceBook (iOS) Notifications

[Nicki Keck]

I hadn't been into the facebook app but did notice that when the
notifications come in.  that is totally annoying!  If there is more than one
comment, like if neil commented Joe commented on my status, I could see
clicking, but I liked if only one person did so you could read the status.
Glad the doubling up is fixed; that was annoying me to no end.

 

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Subject: FaceBook (iOS) Notifications

 

All,

 

Now that the doubling up issue has been resolved within the latest public
build of FaceBook for iOS, I'm noticing another issue about the app which is
annoying me!

 

Previously when a notification appeared on the locked screen, or, when
viewing FaceBook notifications within the Notification tab of the app
itself, the full notification would be read aloud.

 

Now on the locked screen it just says something like: Neil Barnfather
commented on your post.

 

and, within the Notification tab of the app itself it just says: Neil
Barnfather commented on your post, you physically have to click on the
comment etc to read it. grrr. most annoying, anyone else noticed and is
there please a fix!

 

 

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RE: Question concerning NFL Audio Pass

[Nicki Keck]

Ann,

I don't have a straightforward way to get there.  I have the same
difficulty.

However, once you are playing the broadcast, if you move around the screen,
there should be a source button.  I think it says, source: home.  You can
double tap that and choose away.  Hope this helps.

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Of SoonerAnnie
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question concerning NFL Audio Pass

Hi listers, 

When using NFL Audio Pass on an IOS device, is there an easy way to get to
it and the broadcast you are wanting to listen to? Sometimes I find it with
no trouble, and then there are other times... ... ... 

And do you have to listen to the home team broadcast, or is there a way to
choose what you want to listen to? I'm a little tired of it kicking my
backside so thought I'd ask for assistance. Smile. TIA...and have a great
week! 

Ann 


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RE: NFL Mobile and other apps

[Nicki Keck]

 to any 
 game that's been played that season, as well as the currently 
 streaming games.
 
 On 08/10/2014 12:38 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 What I don't understand is, I some how stumbled on selecting my team.  
 I have no clue what I did to get there because by that time I was so 
 frustrated with the app it wasn't even funny.  I'm with ATT and what 
 I'd like to know is this.  From the NFL app how can I get the audio 
 pass to listen to the Chicago Bears games.  I'm tired of listening to 
 the game via text message through the bears app.  Listening that way
sucks.
 Who ever sends the texts sometimes gets excited and forgets to text 
 the next play or so.  Kind of makes one wanna throw the iPhone 
 against the wall! grin Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
 now!  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
 everything.
 Please click on:
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 http://WWW.home.earthlink.net/%7Ealanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
 format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks
for listening!
 
- Original Message -
*From:* Nicki Keck mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:18 AM
*Subject:* RE: NFL Mobile
 
I had to reinstall the app as well and can't select my favorite team
either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as
my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but
the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his
limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but if
someone has a better way, I'd be very happy.  You can get back to it
in settings, but you still can't select one.
 
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
*Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2014 11:23 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: NFL Mobile
 
Well, I guess this is progress but I'm not happy yet! I
re-downloaded the app and was finally able to sign in but now it has
me down for the Ravens as my favorite team and when I try to change
it there are no choices: it just says select your favorite team and
has a button to pick another team to follow and has a done button.
Nothing I press allows me to change my favorite team.
 
Btw on the ipad I was able to sign in without reinstalling the app.
It was on the main page but was was some other information I had to
click got it for before the sign in button would work.
 
 
 
 
--
 
Cheryl
 
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
 
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 
His joy for my despairing tears!
 
And now, every day:
 
This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 
his mercies never come to an end;
 
they are new every morning;
 
great is your faithfulness.
 
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
No ... if you have an audio pass subscription ... then it
works for other providers .. I have AtT.
 
I had to delete the app .. and reinstall ...  however, when you
do this you will first have to choose your favorite team .. this
screen isn't accessible ...
 
Then if I remember correctly .. when you got to the settings
screen you will have the choice for already having a
subscription and entering your user and password ..  It's a
little confusing ...  but once you get it .. you should be good
to go ..
 
They definitely could work on the accessibility of the app ...
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
 
On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:04 AM, Kliphton Senior
m.kliph...@gmail.com mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
That is only for Verizon customers right?
 
Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV?  New user and
want quick Efficient answers? Then come join a list where
questions are always answered, and we are always patient
with you  Subscribe here
 
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All are welcome!
 
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheryl Homiak
*Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 9

RE: NFL Mobile

[Nicki Keck]

Yes no Eagles stations and I’m tired of trying station after station just to 
find a game.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

 

Have you tried the Pro football radio app?


If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 

From: Nicki Keck mailto:jesusgir...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:18 PM

Subject: RE: NFL Mobile

 

I had to reinstall the app as well and can’t select my favorite team either.  I 
have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as my favorite team.  The 
jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but the least it could have done is 
select the bucs, not the jaguars.  Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having 
my husband with his limited sight try to see if he could select it for me 
later, but if someone has a better way, I’d be very happy.  You can get back to 
it in settings, but you still can’t select one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

 

Well, I guess this is progress but I'm not happy yet! I re-downloaded the app 
and was finally able to sign in but now it has me down for the Ravens as my 
favorite team and when I try to change it there are no choices: it just says 
select your favorite team and has a button to pick another team to follow and 
has a done button. Nothing I press allows me to change my favorite team.

Btw on the ipad I was able to sign in without reinstalling the app. It was on 
the main page but was was some other information I had to click got it for 
before the sign in button would work.





-- 

Cheryl 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears! 

And now, every day:

This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 


On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com 
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com  wrote:

No ... if you have an audio pass subscription ... then it works for other 
providers .. I have AtT.

 

I had to delete the app .. and reinstall ...  however, when you do this you 
will first have to choose your favorite team .. this screen isn't accessible ...

 

Then if I remember correctly .. when you got to the settings screen you will 
have the choice for already having a subscription and entering your user and 
password ..  It's a little confusing ...  but once you get it .. you should be 
good to go ..

 

They definitely could work on the accessibility of the app ...

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:04 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com 
mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com  wrote:

That is only for Verizon customers right?

 

 

Frustrated with your I-device, Mac or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
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All are welcome!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: NFL Mobile

 

Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information this 
year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to purchase 
and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be hiding 
somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

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RE: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Nicki Keck]

It will do either.  You can select that under voiceover settings.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mich
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

Hi I have a question as well. I have never played around with a braille
display but this sounds verry nice from looking at the specks on fs's sight.

my question is is the braille in grade 1 or grade 2? the only reason I am
asking is because I read braille but do better in grade 1 then 2 since I
don't have to stop and think of what the contractions meen. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.


It takes you back.  It's lke your back button.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

Morning.

I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.

What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on
the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to
keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say
the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone
and the 40 with my Mac.

Thanks.

Kawal.

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RE: NFL Mobile

[Nicki Keck]

I had to reinstall the app as well and can’t select my favorite team either.  I 
have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as my favorite team.  The 
jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but the least it could have done is 
select the bucs, not the jaguars.  Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having 
my husband with his limited sight try to see if he could select it for me 
later, but if someone has a better way, I’d be very happy.  You can get back to 
it in settings, but you still can’t select one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

 

Well, I guess this is progress but I'm not happy yet! I re-downloaded the app 
and was finally able to sign in but now it has me down for the Ravens as my 
favorite team and when I try to change it there are no choices: it just says 
select your favorite team and has a button to pick another team to follow and 
has a done button. Nothing I press allows me to change my favorite team.

Btw on the ipad I was able to sign in without reinstalling the app. It was on 
the main page but was was some other information I had to click got it for 
before the sign in button would work.






-- 

Cheryl 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears! 

And now, every day:

This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 


On Aug 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com 
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com  wrote:

No ... if you have an audio pass subscription ... then it works for other 
providers .. I have AtT.

 

I had to delete the app .. and reinstall ...  however, when you do this you 
will first have to choose your favorite team .. this screen isn't accessible ...

 

Then if I remember correctly .. when you got to the settings screen you will 
have the choice for already having a subscription and entering your user and 
password ..  It's a little confusing ...  but once you get it .. you should be 
good to go ..

 

They definitely could work on the accessibility of the app ...

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:04 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@gmail.com 
mailto:m.kliph...@gmail.com  wrote:

That is only for Verizon customers right?

 

 

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All are welcome!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: NFL Mobile

 

Has anybody figured out where to enter audiopass subscription information this 
year on the NFL mobile app. All I find in settings is the option to purchase 
and if I choose listen that is also where it takes me. It has to be hiding 
somewhere here in plain sight but I can't find it.

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness.

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

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RE: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

[Nicki Keck]

It takes you back.  It's lke your back button.

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Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question About the Focus 14 Blue.

Morning.

I have just had the above since Friday last and have one question.

What does the round button do on the extreme left please? This button is on
the front of the display just before the rocker switch. I went in to
keyboard help and it said nothing. I also have the 40 Blue but I must say
the 14 is so comfortable to write with. I !olely use the 14 with my I phone
and the 40 with my Mac. 

Thanks.

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RE: bible app from life church latest update.

[Nicki Keck]

One problem I have had with the last 2 updates to this app is that when
reading in braille, verse references have these weird backslaches showing up
between the numbers.  Speech doesn't read them that way, but with braille
you see them.  Has anyone else noticed this when using a braille display?

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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bible app from life church latest update.

The only problem I  have noticed is that the on and off button are not
labeled. 
Other then that the rest of the app is accessible. 
On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found the same thing.
 
 Jenn
 
 TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
 
 
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 Behalf Of Billy Maynard
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: bible ap from life church latest update.
 
 hi everyone,
 
 after the  latest update to Bible ap from life church.  Which I love 
 and usee a lot after the latest fix to accessability and now the 
 latest broke it again.  it's accessability was broken for me.  Anyone else
have any
 esperiences or  sujestions?   This update was supposed to allow you push 
 notifications or email notifications of the verse of the day but, I 
 can't do anything but, goto settings to try to turn one on.  the on 
 off buttons don't work and you can't do anything else with it now.
 
 Thanks,
 Billy Maynard
 
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RE: BARD app

[Nicki Keck]

I heard the same thing.  It was on one of the Serotalk specials they did
with interviews from the ACB convention.  So it's definitely coming.  No
mention was made of when, though.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD app

I heard that the ability to set a timer within BARD will be available with
the next update. Not sure when that will be.

Jane




On Jul 18, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com
wrote:

 I am thinking about switching totally to the BARD app instead of using 
 a DAISY reader.  The thing I love about my Stream is that I can reach 
 over and tap the sleep alarm but in the app I have to go into the 
 timer and set it to shut off.  Is there an easier way to do this?  I 
 listen to books when I am going to sleep.
 
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 Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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RE: BARD app

[Nicki Keck]

Me neither.  I also heard the timer will give you the ability to tell it to 
stop at the end of a chapter.  Now that would be cool!

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Marianne Denning
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Thanks Jane.  It can't come out soon enough for me.

On 7/18/14, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 I heard that the ability to set a timer within BARD will be available 
 with the next update. Not sure when that will be.

 Jane




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 I am thinking about switching totally to the BARD app instead of 
 using a DAISY reader.  The thing I love about my Stream is that I can 
 reach over and tap the sleep alarm but in the app I have to go into 
 the timer and set it to shut off.  Is there an easier way to do this?  
 I listen to books when I am going to sleep.

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RE: BARD app

[Nicki Keck]

Sorry but what command do you use with SIRI for setting a sleep timer?

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After I use Siri to set a sleep timer and Play, I use the three finger
double tap to turn off speech. Otherwise, when it does shut off, the
announcement that it is shutting down inevitably wakes me up.

Eric



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Then you have fun trying to find where you left off.  I do that with my BARD
app now.

 On 7/18/14, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't go to sleep if I set a sleep timer. It's weird. If I just lay 
 there and listen and pretend I won't fall asleep I do. If I try to set 
 a timer, though, I stay wide awake.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
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 maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks Jane.  It can't come out soon enough for me.
 
 On 7/18/14, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 I heard that the ability to set a timer within BARD will be 
 available with the next update. Not sure when that will be.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 18, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Marianne Denning 
 maria...@denningweb.com
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 I am thinking about switching totally to the BARD app instead of 
 using a DAISY reader.  The thing I love about my Stream is that I 
 can reach over and tap the sleep alarm but in the app I have to go 
 into the timer and set it to shut off.  Is there an easier way to 
 do this?  I listen to books when I am going to sleep.
 
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RE: Latest Facebook

[Nicki Keck]

I certainly have.  Sometimes you can focus n it, turn VO off, tap, and turn
it back on again and you will be there, but sometimes, this does not work.
I wish they would fix this.

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YHello all,
I just updated to the latest Facebook app.
And I found one issue or bug. 
When someone  share a link on Facebook

I cannot enter the link.
Anyone experienced this issue? 
 Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950

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