SturItUp services: More with the Mac session 6

['Kliph Miller Sr' via VIPhone]

More with the Mac session six is now published on the podcast, and don’t forget 
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IOS 17 with my Braille Sense 6

[Tom Lange]

Just passing this along for anyone having problems getting a Braille Sense 6 to 
work with IOS 17.
No matter how I tried, I couldn't get my Braille Sense 6 going, after rebooting 
both devices, telling the iPhone 12 Pro to forget the Braille Sense and on and 
on. Finally I said the hell with it and turned Bluetooth off. Then I told the 
Braille Sense to go into Terminal mode over the Bluetooth serial port. The 
iPhone told me that Bluetooth was off and wanted to know if I wanted to start 
Bluetooth, to which I answered yes. i heard the usual chirp that happens when 
the display begins working and sure enough, I had Braille. Needless to say, I'm 
happy about that and hope that I won't have any more problems. I'm writing  
this message on the Braille Sense 6 right now.
I hope this helps someone.
Tom

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Backing up a iPhone 6 S

['Dulce Weisenborn' via VIPhone]

I  backup my iPhone 11 Pro but also want to backup my older 6 S.  How do I 
safely do this without messing up my mewer phone's data and apps?  Is it 
possible to synchronize the two phones to the newer one's data?

dulce


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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Sieghard Weitzel]

An iPhone 6 which is this damaged isn't going to be worth anything for resale 
so you may as well destroy it if all you want to do is make sure nobody can 
access it any more.
On the other hand if it has a passcode and you can't even get into it then it's 
unlikely anybody else can either and I would just drop it off at a recycling 
depot or ask at an Apple Store if they take it back to be recycled.
I assume you could drop it into a bucket of water for a day or so if you really 
want to make sure it's dead, an iPhone 6 shouldn't last very long especially 
not if the screen is cracked.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: December 8, 2021 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Well, between a bucket of water, and a sledge hammer, something is bound to 
kill the phone! LOL! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Good luck,

 

Hope you do enough to kill it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 2:08 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

 

I doubt it.  Let’s go with a sledgehammer  Before I mess with screens for a 
piece of all tech

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Kevin.

 

I know it’s an older phone,

 

But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the 
wipe 

And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

 

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit 
passcode to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory 
restore, can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my 
problem all along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.

Sent from my iPhone






On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping 
it in a bucket of water for a few hours.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

 

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to 
my Windows 7 machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the 
recovery mode process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came 
up that I would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and 
restore. I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is

Sent from my iPhone





    

On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we 
want to dispose of it while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  
Unfortunately, the screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't 
really be read at all and operating the phone through touch is all but 
impossible.  I did manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO 
does work and that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but 
getting in is not a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the 
screens to the reset is not a certainty.  

 

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried 
connecting the phone to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing 
the data and I was told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would 
have to acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone 
by responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  

 

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would 
allow me to get to the 

RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Carolyn]

Well, between a bucket of water, and a sledge hammer, something is bound to 
kill the phone! LOL! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 8:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Good luck,

 

Hope you do enough to kill it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 2:08 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

 

I doubt it.  Let’s go with a sledgehammer  Before I mess with screens for a 
piece of all tech

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Kevin.

 

I know it’s an older phone,

 

But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the 
wipe 

And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

 

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit 
passcode to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory 
restore, can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my 
problem all along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.

Sent from my iPhone






On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping 
it in a bucket of water for a few hours.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

 

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to 
my Windows 7 machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the 
recovery mode process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came 
up that I would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and 
restore. I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is

Sent from my iPhone





    

On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we 
want to dispose of it while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  
Unfortunately, the screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't 
really be read at all and operating the phone through touch is all but 
impossible.  I did manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO 
does work and that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but 
getting in is not a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the 
screens to the reset is not a certainty.  

 

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried 
connecting the phone to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing 
the data and I was told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would 
have to acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone 
by responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  

 

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would 
allow me to get to the RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife 
is intensely respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off 
to anyone without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  

 

Any help appreciated.  

Best,

Kevin

 

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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Good luck,

Hope you do enough to kill it.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 2:08 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

I doubt it.  Let’s go with a sledgehammer  Before I mess with screens for a 
piece of all tech
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Kevin.

I know it’s an older phone,

But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the wipe
And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit passcode 
to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory restore, 
can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my problem all 
along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.
Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
of water for a few hours.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
Sent from my iPhone




On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

I doubt it.  Let’s go with a sledgehammer  Before I mess with screens for a 
piece of all tech

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Kevin.
>  
> I know it’s an older phone,
>  
> But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the wipe
> And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice
>  
> Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit 
> passcode to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory 
> restore, can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my 
> problem all along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
> of water for a few hours.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice
>  
> Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
> machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
> process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
> would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
> I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
> while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
> screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
> all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
> manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
> that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not 
> a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the 
> reset is not a certainty.  
>  
> My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
> to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was 
> told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
> acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
> responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  
>  
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
> RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
> respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
> without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  
>  
> Any help appreciated.  
> Best,
> Kevin
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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kevin.

I know it’s an older phone,

But would it be worth getting a new screen put in and then doing the wipe
And may be sell it as a cheap phone to someone who wants a cheap device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 11:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit passcode 
to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory restore, 
can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my problem all 
along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
of water for a few hours.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

Bluetooth keyboard won’t work because I can’t get past the four digit passcode 
to unlock the phone. With or without a keyboard. As for A factory restore, 
can’t do it without a trust acceptance on the phone. That’s been my problem all 
along.  dropping it in a bucket of water may be the thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
> of water for a few hours.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice
>  
> Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
> machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
> process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
> would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
> I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
> while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
> screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
> all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
> manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
> that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not 
> a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the 
> reset is not a certainty.  
>  
> My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
> to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was 
> told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
> acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
> responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  
>  
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
> RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
> respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
> without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  
>  
> Any help appreciated.  
> Best,
> Kevin
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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Wht about the direct impact breaking it more and then dropping it in a bucket 
of water for a few hours.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 5:40 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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RE: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kevin,

Any chance you have a Bluetooth keyboard and could use that to navigate through 
 the menus with vo?

Or try doing a factory restore  which will involve needing to connect your 
phone to the computer,
But shouldn’t’ require a trust acceptance.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 4:51 pm
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at all 
and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did manage to 
get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and that's the only 
way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not a sure thing.  
And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the reset is not a 
certainty.

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone to 
an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was told 
by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to acknowledge the 
computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by responding on the 
phone.  You can see the problem.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the RESET 
to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely respectful of 
piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone without making an 
effort to sanitize it is not desirable.

Any help appreciated.
Best,
Kevin

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Re: Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

Here  Here’s an update. I tried connecting my wife’s iPhone to my Windows 7 
machine and holding the home and sleep buttons to begin the recovery mode 
process. I thought I was doing well until the message still came up that I 
would have to respond on the iPhone to facilitate the download and restore. 
I’ve checked with my wife’s iCloud account and this phone is

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
> while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
> screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
> all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
> manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
> that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is not 
> a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens to the 
> reset is not a certainty.  
> 
> My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
> to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I was 
> told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
> acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
> responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  
> 
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
> RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
> respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
> without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  
> 
> Any help appreciated.  
> Best,
> Kevin
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Need to erase old damaged iPhone 6. any advice

[Kevin Gibbs]

I have an old iPhone 6 that belongs to my wife and we want to dispose of it 
while making certain that all the data has been wiped.  Unfortunately, the 
screen of the phone is heavily damaged such that it can't really be read at 
all and operating the phone through touch is all but impossible.  I did 
manage to get into the phone twice on different days.  VO does work and 
that's the only way we know that the phone has data.   but getting in is 
not a sure thing.  And, even if you manage it, getting around the screens 
to the reset is not a certainty.  

My wife is sighted and doesn't use VO at all.  I tried connecting the phone 
to an expendable Win7 computer for the purpose of erasing the data and I 
was told by the Win7 machine that, in order to proceed, I would have to 
acknowledge the computer's attempt to connect with this damaged phone by 
responding on the phone.  You can see the problem.  

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion that would allow me to get to the 
RESET to factory default by any means at all?  My wife is intensely 
respectful of piracy and data privacy and merely handing this off to anyone 
without making an effort to sanitize it is not desirable.  

Any help appreciated.  
Best,
Kevin

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Re: series 6 watchquestion

[Robert Doc Wright]

that did the trick. I don't know how I missed it last night.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 7:05 AM
  Subject: Re: series 6 watchquestion


  Hi Robert,
  On your phone, in the Watch app, make sure the My Watch tab is selected at 
the bottom left.
  Then, try slowly sliding your finger up and about 2 inches or so you should 
find a General button, or start higher on the screen and flick right until you 
get to General.
  Double tap.
  Flick right until you get to Apple ID.
  There you will sign in.


  I would think if you are signed in to iCloud on your phone, that will solve 
the issue.






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On Apr 9, 2021, at 5:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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My watch says I need to go to the watch app on my phone and sign into my 
Apple ID. I could not find anywhere to sign.

later it wanted me to sign into iCloud. It gave me the choice of scribble 
or keyboard. I chose keyboard and I heard an announcement on my phone but I 
couldn't find a keyboard.
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Re: series 6 watchquestion

[Richard Turner]

Hi Robert,
On your phone, in the Watch app, make sure the My Watch tab is selected at the 
bottom left.
Then, try slowly sliding your finger up and about 2 inches or so you should 
find a General button, or start higher on the screen and flick right until you 
get to General.
Double tap.
Flick right until you get to Apple ID.
There you will sign in.

I would think if you are signed in to iCloud on your phone, that will solve the 
issue.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Apr 9, 2021, at 5:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:


My watch says I need to go to the watch app on my phone and sign into my Apple 
ID. I could not find anywhere to sign.

later it wanted me to sign into iCloud. It gave me the choice of scribble or 
keyboard. I chose keyboard and I heard an announcement on my phone but I 
couldn't find a keyboard.
*
family Times weekly Movie times


go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Thank you for your comment. After the update, I was presented with that initial 
‘Hello’ screen and instructed to set up the iPhone. I don’t think that normally 
happens when moving from 14.3 to 14.4 for example. Anyway, all is well now.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Hi! Cher:

 

Michael McKay here. Thank you for the information. As I had mentioned in my 
last email to the group, I downloaded and installed the update last night.

 

I was waiting for it to say it needed or required the digital code for some 
reason the iOS 14.4 upgrade or update did not even ask me for it.

 

Instead it went straight to the main screen of my iPhone, and was totally 
updated. I do not know What the reason is that it’s requiring it for some 
users, but not for others I would ask if someone has the time to find out or to 
inquire maybe they could let us know, but on my end everything is functioning 
well, and working fine.

 

I have no doubt that one day they will absolutely requires a code no matter 
what but this time around I didn’t have to enter one.

 

All the best to you, And fellow List members.

 

Have a blessed weekend!

 

Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com> 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 29, 2021, at 16:48, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

Your original post was not clear on whether or not you had a passcode before 
installing the update.

 


- Brad -

 

On Jan 29, 2021, at 14:45, Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

 

Yes you do- see my previous message.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.

The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
because they were being asked to create one.

 


- Brad -

 

On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons mailto:johnnas...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?




Johnna Simmons






On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
<mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>  wrote:

For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 

Lyne






Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > a écrit :



If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

 

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

 

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroupscom>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com &

RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

I‘m the original poster and I already had an established 4 digit numeric 
passcode. After updating, I was not getting an option button to choose anything 
except to provide a 6 digit code. Apple did a screen share and the rep saw the 
same scenario- that I had experienced many, many times. He had me flick both 
directions several times to verify that I was not being presented with any 
other options. In my previous replies, I have explained the full order of 
events.

 

Cher

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.

The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
because they were being asked to create one.

 


- Brad -

 

On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons mailto:johnnas...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?



Johnna Simmons





On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
<mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>  wrote:

For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 

Lyne





Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > a écrit :



If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

 

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

 

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Michael McKay]

Hi! Cher:

Michael McKay here. Thank you for the information. As I had mentioned in my 
last email to the group, I downloaded and installed the update last night.

I was waiting for it to say it needed or required the digital code for some 
reason the iOS 14.4 upgrade or update did not even ask me for it.

Instead it went straight to the main screen of my iPhone, and was totally 
updated. I do not know What the reason is that it’s requiring it for some 
users, but not for others I would ask if someone has the time to find out or to 
inquire maybe they could let us know, but on my end everything is functioning 
well, and working fine.

I have no doubt that one day they will absolutely requires a code no matter 
what but this time around I didn’t have to enter one.

All the best to you, And fellow List members.

Have a blessed weekend!

Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2021, at 16:48, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Your original post was not clear on whether or not you had a passcode before 
> installing the update.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2021, at 14:45, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> 
> Yes you do- see my previous message.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
> Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>  
> Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.
> The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
> because they were being asked to create one.
>  
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
>  
> I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
> passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
> passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?
> 
> Johnna Simmons
> 
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>>> installing the update,
>>>  
>>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>>  
>>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>  
>>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>>>  
>>>> Cher
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Michael Feir
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>>  
>>>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>>>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>>>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>>>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>>>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your 
>>>> passcode.
>>>>  
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
>>>>> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
>>>>&

Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Brad Snyder]

Your original post was not clear on whether or not you had a passcode before 
installing the update.


- Brad -


On Jan 29, 2021, at 14:45, Cher Bosch  wrote:

Yes you do- see my previous message.
 
Cher
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.
The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
because they were being asked to create one.
 

- Brad -

 
On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons mailto:johnnas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?

Johnna Simmons


> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 
> 
> Lyne
> 
> 
>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>> installing the update,
>>  
>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>  
>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch > <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>>  
>>> Cher
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>  
>>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your 
>>> passcode.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch >> <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>>>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
>>>> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>>>> 
>>>> Cher
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ann
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>> 
>>>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>>>> 
>>>> ~Ann
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>>>> >  From ich.
>>>> > 
>>>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Yes you do- see my previous message.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.

The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
because they were being asked to create one.

 


- Brad -

 

On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons mailto:johnnas...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?



Johnna Simmons





On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
<mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>  wrote:

For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 

Lyne





Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > a écrit :



If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

 

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

 

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
> 
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

I’m the original poster. I had a 4 digit code before updating. During the 
set-up after the update, the dialog demanded that I put in a 6 digit code. 
Putting in my 4 digit code would not satisfy the dialog. I was not provided any 
options- and backing out of the screen and trying again presented the same 
demand for a 6 digit code. The 3 finger flick up eventually provided an options 
button- which let me choose a 4 digit code. You can turn it off afterward in 
‘Touch ID and Passcodes’. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johnna 
Simmons
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?

Johnna Simmons





On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
<mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>  wrote:

For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 

Lyne





Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > a écrit :

 

If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

 

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

 

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
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> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Flor Lynch]

That 4-digit code is what is known as a passcode.
From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
Pass codes should not be affected. I still use Touch ID, with the same 
4-digit code on my SE 2020. Good luck!


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


  El 27 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:22 a.m., Cher Bosch 
 escribió:


  
  Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!



  Cher

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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Simon A Fogarty]

You mean once to authorise the installation and once again when your phone 
restarted and you had to access your phone

Yes that would be correct as the last step in the installation process is to 
restart the phone / tablet and then of course you have to unlock it with your 
passcode 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I had to put in my 4 digit code twice.  Once before I downloaded the update, 
and once after it installed.  I had no issues updating to IOS 14.4.

On 1/27/21, Marie  wrote:
> I was prompted after the update installed, not before.
> Marie
>
>
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>
> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
> installing the update,
>
>
>
> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup 
> option to create a new and longer pass code,
>
>
>
> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd 
> remove the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id 
> settings.
> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
> 
> wrote:
>
>   No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>
>
>
>   Cher
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Michael Feir
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
>   If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where 
> you can choose different options including a shorter four digit 
> passcode or something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to 
> remember and use it whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch 
> or face id. There are also other circumstances when you'll be 
> occasionally asked for your passcode.
>
>
>
>   On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting 
> my 4 digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf
>
> > Of *Cher Bosch
> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> >
> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> >
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.
The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
because they were being asked to create one.


- Brad -


On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons  wrote:

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?

Johnna Simmons

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>> installing the update,
>>  
>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>  
>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch > <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>  
>> Cher
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch > <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
>> code just sits there- nothing happens.
>> 
>> Cher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> 
>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>> 
>> ~Ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>> >  From ich.
>> > 
>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf 
>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> > 
>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>> > 
>> > Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Entering a passcode is no big deal.  I've got an easy 4 digit code,
and even if the only person who uses my phone is me, I would never
under any circumstances not use a passcode.  I think of the passcode
kind of like if I had a password on my computer to put in whenever I
turned it on.  I don't have a password on my computer, but I know some
people do.

On 1/27/21, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
> I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a
> passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter
> a passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?
>
> Johnna Simmons
>
>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or
>> 00
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit
>>>> :
>>>>
>>> 
>>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before
>>> installing the update,
>>>
>>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup
>>> option to create a new and longer pass code,
>>>
>>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>
>>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is
>>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and
>>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove
>>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings.
>>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch
>>>  wrote:
>>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>>
>>> Cher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>
>>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
>>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
>>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
>>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
>>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
>>> passcode.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch
>>>  wrote:
>>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
>>> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>>>
>>> Cher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Ann
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>
>>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>>>
>>> ~Ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
>>> >  From ich.
>>> >
>>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>> >
>>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>>> >
>>> > Cher
>>> >
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Johnna Simmons]

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?

Johnna Simmons

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 
> 
> Lyne
> 
>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
>>> 
>> 
>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>> installing the update,
>>  
>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>  
>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
>> wrote:
>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>  
>> Cher
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
>> wrote:
>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
>> code just sits there- nothing happens.
>> 
>> Cher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> 
>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>> 
>> ~Ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>> >  From ich.
>> > 
>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> > 
>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>> > 
>> > Cher
>> > 
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I had to put in my 4 digit code twice.  Once before I downloaded the
update, and once after it installed.  I had no issues updating to IOS
14.4.

On 1/27/21, Marie  wrote:
> I was prompted after the update installed, not before.
> Marie
>
>
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>
> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before
> installing the update,
>
>
>
> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option
> to create a new and longer pass code,
>
>
>
> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is
> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and
> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove
> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings.
> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
>   No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>
>
>
>   Cher
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
>   If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
> passcode.
>
>
>
>   On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>
> > Of *Cher Bosch
> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> >
> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> >
> > Cher
> >
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Julie Dawson]

I was prompted and my iPhone is passcode protected already. I put in the code I 
already use.
Julie D.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Snyder 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?


  That is what I suspected all along.
  You are being prompted to enter a passcode because you didn’t have one before 
the update.
  There is no reason why you cannot continue using your device without a 
passcode if that is what you want.


  - Brad -




  On Jan 27, 2021, at 18:54, Marie  wrote:


  No, this is a phone which stays home so there was no previous passcode. Could 
be the reason I was prompted to enter one.
  Marie


  From: Alan Lemly
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:28 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  Hi Marie,

  So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini 
before you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some 
pattern as to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new 
passcodes screen while the majority of those replying were not. I had to 
provide my existing 4 digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and 
install and I was never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I 
expect there must be something similar between Cher's and your facts that 
resulted in both of you being taken to the new passcodes screen.

  Alan Lemly

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.
  Marie


  From: Alan Lemly 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  Cher,

  I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. 
Are you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

  I hope you can get this sorted.

  Alan Lemly

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

  Cher



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

  On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:
Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
digit code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
> 
 

Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Brad Snyder]

That is what I suspected all along.
You are being prompted to enter a passcode because you didn’t have one before 
the update.
There is no reason why you cannot continue using your device without a passcode 
if that is what you want.

- Brad -


On Jan 27, 2021, at 18:54, Marie  wrote:

No, this is a phone which stays home so there was no previous passcode. Could 
be the reason I was prompted to enter one.
Marie
 
 
From: Alan Lemly <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
Hi Marie,
 
So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini before 
you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some pattern as 
to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new passcodes screen 
while the majority of those replying were not. I had to provide my existing 4 
digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and install and I was 
never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I expect there must 
be something similar between Cher's and your facts that resulted in both of you 
being taken to the new passcodes screen.
 
Alan Lemly
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.
Marie
 
 
From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
Cher,
 
I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.
 
I hope you can get this sorted.
 
Alan Lemly
 
From:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [ 
<>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
 
Cher
 
 
 
From:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> < 
<>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
 
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch < <>oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
<mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
> code just sits there- nothing happens.
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> < 
> <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> I just update

Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Marie]

I was prompted after the update installed, not before.
Marie


From: Simon A Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

 

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

 

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

   

  Cher

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

   

  If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

   

  On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
digit code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
> 
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Marie]

No, this is a phone which stays home so there was no previous passcode. Could 
be the reason I was prompted to enter one.
Marie


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Hi Marie,

 

So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini before 
you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some pattern as 
to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new passcodes screen 
while the majority of those replying were not. I had to provide my existing 4 
digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and install and I was 
never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I expect there must 
be something similar between Cher's and your facts that resulted in both of you 
being taken to the new passcodes screen.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.

Marie

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

  Cher



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

  ~Ann



  On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
  > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
  >  From ich.
  > 
  > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
  > Of *Cher Bosch
  > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
  > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
  > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
  > 
  > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
  > 
  > Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[l . d . ethier23]

Sorry Richard, 
I probably wasn't clear. Of course, it's too easy!
I just want to tell, if you do the update and before, you wasn't using a pass 
code and after you are invited to enter a code, Apple says that you should use 
123456 or 00. They add this security but when don't know you try many codes 
and you lock your device.


Lyne

> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 18:48, Richard Turner  a 
> écrit :
> 
>  You would only use those passcodes if you wanted your phone used by anyone 
> on the planet. That is like using the word password for your password. 
> Too easy to guess.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 3:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>  For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 
>> 00 
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>>> installing the update,
>>>  
>>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>>  
>>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>  
>>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
>>> wrote:
>>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>>  
>>> Cher
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>  
>>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your 
>>> passcode.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
>>> wrote:
>>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
>>> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>>> 
>>> Cher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>> 
>>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>>> 
>>> ~Ann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>>> >  From ich.
>>> > 
>>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>> > 
>>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>>> > 
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Julie Dawson]

I just went up to 14.4 from 13.7. I had to install through iTunes. I couldn't 
upgrade through my SE iPhone. What a mess!
Julie D.
  - Original Message - 
  From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 5:42 PM
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?


  For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 


  Lyne


Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :


 
If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,



If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
to create a new and longer pass code,



And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?



Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change 
it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option 
to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.



On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹



  Cher







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?



  If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.



  On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
 wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
digit code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Richard Turner]

You would only use those passcodes if you wanted your phone used by anyone on 
the planet. That is like using the word password for your password.
Too easy to guess.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 27, 2021, at 3:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00

Lyne

Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :


If you have a pass code that is four characters,
The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
>  From ich.
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf
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> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>
> Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[l . d . ethier23]

For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 

Lyne

> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
> 
> 
> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
> installing the update,
>  
> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
> to create a new and longer pass code,
>  
> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>  
> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create 
> a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
> something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
> customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
> brilliant ideas occur to me.
>  
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
> wrote:
> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>  
> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
> alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
> unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
> circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
>  
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
> wrote:
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
> code just sits there- nothing happens.
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
> >  From ich.
> > 
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> > Of *Cher Bosch
> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> > 
> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> > 
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Simon A Fogarty]

If you have a pass code that is four characters,
The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
>  From ich.
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>
> Cher
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Marie,

 

So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini before 
you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some pattern as 
to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new passcodes screen 
while the majority of those replying were not. I had to provide my existing 4 
digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and install and I was 
never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I expect there must 
be something similar between Cher's and your facts that resulted in both of you 
being taken to the new passcodes screen.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.

Marie

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Marie]

No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.
Marie


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

  Cher



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

  ~Ann



  On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
  > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
  >  From ich.
  > 
  > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
  > Of *Cher Bosch
  > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
  > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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  > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Yes- your understanding is correct. I called Apple and all the same screens 
presented themselves- with the same lack of options. After several attempts to 
find alternatives, he had me do a 3 finger swipe up and flick through the 
screens again- both left and right. Suddenly the options button magically 
appeared and this allowed me to choose a 4 digit code again. Thanks to all who 
replied- it is great to have so many folks in your corner when you’re about to 
pull your hair out!

 

Cher 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Alan Lemly]

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Larry Lumpkin]

I updated my iphone 7 to 14.4 and the option never appeared. I entered my 
4-digit passcode just fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Michael Feir]

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is
create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and
change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove
the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings.
Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
wrote:

> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>
>
>
> Cher
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Feir
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
> passcode.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> > Of *Cher Bosch
> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Pass codes should not be affected. I still use Touch ID, with the same 4-digit 
code on my SE 2020. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 27 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:22 a.m., Cher Bosch  
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



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> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Michael Feir]

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
passcode.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
wrote:

> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
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> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Richard Turner]

There should be a passcode options button. If not, call Apple Accessibility.


Richard

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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> 
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
> code just sits there- nothing happens.
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>> From ich.
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> Of *Cher Bosch
>> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
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>> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Richard Turner]

there should be an option, though Apple recommends 6 for better security, but 
you should be able to choose a 4 digit passcode, and if that is what you had, 
you should be able to just use it. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
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-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:47 AM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.  From 
>> ich.
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Cher Bosch
>> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Ann]

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
 From ich.


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Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!

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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. From ich.

 

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Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!

 

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14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

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Just updated. tell me it ain't so! Please!

 

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RE: Apple watch series 6

[Johna Gravitt]

I’ll be anxiously watching for your questions and it may answer a few of my own 
.  I just got one for Christmas.


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RE: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Johna Gravitt]

Ok thanks


-Original Message-
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Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple 
Watch Update complete message

The screen will lock on its own, so you can just leave it alone. I usually put 
my hand over the screen to lock it just to make sure the message gets sent and 
nothing else happens, but it will do it on its own as well.

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
> 
> So there's no way to do it completely hands free?
> I mean if I've got to press the digital crown to lock the screen then I might 
> as well press it and say send lol at least this way I get a message saying it 
> was sent.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:55 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: 
> Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message
> 
> Hi Johna,
> 
> After Siri says it will send the message, lock the screen, and the message 
> will send.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I'm curious about sending messages on the watch.  I can dictate a message in 
>> the app or with Siri but when Siri asks if I want to send it and I say yes, 
>> it just says "ok, I'll send this" and just sits there until I actually press 
>> the digital crown and say "send"
>> Also, any idea why Siri doesn't read the message that I dictate back to me?
>> Thanks,
>> Johna
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Ann Byrne
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message
>> 
>> Use the crown to scroll down to okay.
>> At 10:02 AM 12/29/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>>> Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I've apparently 
>>> deleted it think it didn't apply to me. So my watch updated last 
>>> night and I cannot get rid of the update complete screen. I even did 
>>> a hard reset which I thought did it, but no luck. I can turn vO on 
>>> and off with the crown but otherwise the crown and power button seem 
>>> to perform no functions and the update won't dismiss. The watch 
>>> appears to be functioning normally otherwise. There's just no dismiss 
>>> button.
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Re: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Anna Dresner]

The screen will lock on its own, so you can just leave it alone. I usually put 
my hand over the screen to lock it just to make sure the message gets sent and 
nothing else happens, but it will do it on its own as well.

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
> 
> So there's no way to do it completely hands free?
> I mean if I've got to press the digital crown to lock the screen then I might 
> as well press it and say send lol at least this way I get a message saying it 
> was sent.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:55 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing 
> Apple Watch Update complete message
> 
> Hi Johna,
> 
> After Siri says it will send the message, lock the screen, and the message 
> will send.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I'm curious about sending messages on the watch.  I can dictate a message in 
>> the app or with Siri but when Siri asks if I want to send it and I say yes, 
>> it just says "ok, I'll send this" and just sits there until I actually press 
>> the digital crown and say "send"
>> Also, any idea why Siri doesn't read the message that I dictate back to me?
>> Thanks,
>> Johna
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ann Byrne
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message
>> 
>> Use the crown to scroll down to okay.
>> At 10:02 AM 12/29/2020, you wrote:
>> 
>>> Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I've apparently 
>>> deleted it think it didn't apply to me. So my watch updated last 
>>> night and I cannot get rid of the update complete screen. I even did 
>>> a hard reset which I thought did it, but no luck. I can turn vO on 
>>> and off with the crown but otherwise the crown and power button seem 
>>> to perform no functions and the update won't dismiss. The watch 
>>> appears to be functioning normally otherwise. There's just no dismiss 
>>> button.
>>> 
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RE: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Johna Gravitt]

So there's no way to do it completely hands free?
I mean if I've got to press the digital crown to lock the screen then I might 
as well press it and say send lol at least this way I get a message saying it 
was sent.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:55 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple 
Watch Update complete message

Hi Johna,

After Siri says it will send the message, lock the screen, and the message will 
send.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm curious about sending messages on the watch.  I can dictate a message in 
> the app or with Siri but when Siri asks if I want to send it and I say yes, 
> it just says "ok, I'll send this" and just sits there until I actually press 
> the digital crown and say "send"
> Also, any idea why Siri doesn't read the message that I dictate back to me?
> Thanks,
> Johna
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ann Byrne
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message
> 
> Use the crown to scroll down to okay.
> At 10:02 AM 12/29/2020, you wrote:
> 
>> Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I've apparently 
>> deleted it think it didn't apply to me. So my watch updated last 
>> night and I cannot get rid of the update complete screen. I even did 
>> a hard reset which I thought did it, but no luck. I can turn vO on 
>> and off with the crown but otherwise the crown and power button seem 
>> to perform no functions and the update won't dismiss. The watch 
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Re: question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Johna,

After Siri says it will send the message, lock the screen, and the message will 
send.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm curious about sending messages on the watch.  I can dictate a message in 
> the app or with Siri but when Siri asks if I want to send it and I say yes, 
> it just says "ok, I'll send this" and just sits there until I actually press 
> the digital crown and say "send"
> Also, any idea why Siri doesn't read the message that I dictate back to me?
> Thanks,
> Johna
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann 
> Byrne
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message
> 
> Use the crown to scroll down to okay.
> At 10:02 AM 12/29/2020, you wrote:
> 
>> Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I've apparently 
>> deleted it think it didn't apply to me. So my watch updated last night 
>> and I cannot get rid of the update complete screen. I even did a hard 
>> reset which I thought did it, but no luck. I can turn vO on and off 
>> with the crown but otherwise the crown and power button seem to perform 
>> no functions and the update won't dismiss. The watch appears to be 
>> functioning normally otherwise. There's just no dismiss button.
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question about messages on Apple Watch 6 was RE: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

[Johna Gravitt]

Hi,
I'm curious about sending messages on the watch.  I can dictate a message in 
the app or with Siri but when Siri asks if I want to send it and I say yes, it 
just says "ok, I'll send this" and just sits there until I actually press the 
digital crown and say "send"
Also, any idea why Siri doesn't read the message that I dictate back to me?
Thanks,
Johna


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dismissing Apple Watch Update complete message

Use the crown to scroll down to okay.
At 10:02 AM 12/29/2020, you wrote:

>Yikes. I thought there was a long thread on this but I've apparently 
>deleted it think it didn't apply to me. So my watch updated last night 
>and I cannot get rid of the update complete screen. I even did a hard 
>reset which I thought did it, but no luck. I can turn vO on and off 
>with the crown but otherwise the crown and power button seem to perform 
>no functions and the update won't dismiss. The watch appears to be 
>functioning normally otherwise. There's just no dismiss button.
>
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RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Richard,

I just checked my S4 watch which is running 7.1 and it's using a voice from 
Itake it the phone.

I checked under accessibility to find that the siri voice option is un checked 
therefore not at all being used by my watch.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 5:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Richard,
I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> You are correct.
>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>> I really thought about it though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>>
>>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
>>>> voice back and nothing works.
>>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
>>>>> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>>>>
>>>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on 
>>>>> their watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support 
>>>>> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he 
>>>>> would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires 
>>>>> the cellular model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
>>>>> subject of flying.
>>>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>>>>> lies in learning how to thr

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[CrazyEyez]

if you got your watch within the last 30 days, just return it and get a new 
one. lol.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Wayne,
> From what others have said, I think you are lucky in that if you reset the 
> watch, you may lose that ability.
> I've heard from 4 or 5 people using the same watch who either reset the watch 
> or updated before trying the Siri voice and none of them can use it.
> The Apple engineers are aware of this issue and I hope will resolve it 
> relatively soon, which could be next year as software development goes.
> 
> Thanks for all the info.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> Richard,
> I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
> 7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
> WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5ba4ee9302a748797b5e08d88b15ec3c%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412273555278734%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
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>> 1r12Ki484%3Dreserved=0
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
>> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
>> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>> You are correct.
>>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>>> I really thought about it though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>>

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Wayne,
>From what others have said, I think you are lucky in that if you reset the 
>watch, you may lose that ability.
I've heard from 4 or 5 people using the same watch who either reset the watch 
or updated before trying the Siri voice and none of them can use it.
The Apple engineers are aware of this issue and I hope will resolve it 
relatively soon, which could be next year as software development goes.

Thanks for all the info.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Richard,
I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5ba4ee9302a748797b5e08d88b15ec3c%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412273555278734%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kN3HcZqZRwmppNJz%2BJ7OBzgCoMXlsC%2BSJX
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> You are correct.
>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>> I really thought about it though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>>
>>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
>>>> voice back and nothing works.
>>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
>>>>> 

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Wayne Merritt]

Richard,
I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when
running WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no
issues.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and am
> able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same voice set
> for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> You are correct.
>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>> I really thought about it though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is
>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were
>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to
>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>>
>>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri
>>>> voice back and nothing works.
>>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again,
>>>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support
>>>>> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>>>>
>>>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their
>>>>> watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support
>>>>> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he
>>>>> would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires
>>>>> the cellular model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the
>>>>> subject of flying.
>>>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
>>>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af
>>>>> 14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6374121162171540
>>>&g

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
Thanks,



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and am able 
to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same voice set for Siri 
on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
> You are correct.
> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
> I really thought about it though.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>
>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
>>> voice back and nothing works.
>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
>>>> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>>>
>>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their 
>>>> watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>>>
>>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support 
>>>> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he 
>>>> would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires 
>>>> the cellular model.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
>>>> subject of flying.
>>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>>
>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af
>>>> 14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6374121162171540
>>>> 45%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9
>>>> XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>> *I’m not the card shark
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Wayne Merritt
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>>>>
>>>> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On 
>&

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Wayne Merritt]

For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and
am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same
voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
> You are correct.
> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
> I really thought about it though.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is a
>> watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were running
>> Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to the guy I'm
>> working with at Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>
>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice
>>> back and nothing works.
>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person,
>>>> who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>>>
>>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their
>>>> watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>>>
>>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support
>>>> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would
>>>> like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires the
>>>> cellular model.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>>>> flying.
>>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
>>>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>>
>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412116217154045%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>> *I’m not the card shark
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>>>>
>>>> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the
>>>> Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but
>>>> on my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use
>>>> the voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with
>>>> the faster processor and innards in the Series 6.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>>>>> I may try again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[CrazyEyez]

You are correct.
Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
I really thought about it though.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is a watch 
> 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were running Watch OS 7, 
> but then updated.I'll send that thought off to the guy I'm working with at 
> Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>> 
>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>> The other watch is just fine.
>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice back 
>> and nothing works.
>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again,
>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
>>> was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>> 
>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, 
>>> do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>> 
>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
>>> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to 
>>> know as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412116217154045%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> *I’m not the card shark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>>> 
>>> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the 
>>> Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on 
>>> my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the 
>>> voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the 
>>> faster processor and innards in the Series 6.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>>>> I may try again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>>>> of flying.
>>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>>>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>> 
>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is a watch 7.1 
issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were running Watch OS 7, but 
then updated.I'll send that thought off to the guy I'm working with at Apple.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:

Hi,

My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
Both are 44 mm wifi only models.

Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
The other watch is just fine.
I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice back and 
nothing works.
Cellular has nothing to do with it.
I guess some are more lucky than others.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Hello again,
After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who was 
great!, I'm left with a question.

For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, do 
you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?

Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' has 
the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to know as 
well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.

Thanks,


Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: 
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412116217154045%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3Dreserved=0

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 4 
watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my Series 6, 
the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice from the 
phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster processor and 
innards in the Series 6.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.
I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
I may try again.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:
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*I’m not the card shark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Hi richard,
I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the
Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation
was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I
don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc.

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[CrazyEyez]

Hi,

My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
Both are 44 mm wifi only models.

Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
The other watch is just fine.
I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice back and 
nothing works.
Cellular has nothing to do with it.
I guess some are more lucky than others.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
> was great!, I'm left with a question.
> 
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, do 
> you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
> 
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to know 
> as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 
> 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my 
> Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice 
> from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster 
> processor and innards in the Series 6.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>> I may try again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at:
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
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>> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb37
>> 8a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
>> C637411380266085664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
>> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yu
>> Bw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOdP8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0>
>> 
>> *I’m not the card shark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the 
>> Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation 
>> was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I 
>> don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I 
>> can’t tell you now how or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a 
>> new device and I don’t remember. But the fluctuating intonation was 
>> crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says 
>> that if you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the 
>> Siri female voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck 
>> with Samantha, who 

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
I have the SE watch, and I did have the mail Siri voice working. But I didn’t 
like it, so I switched back to Samantha. It was not working well. Kind of 
choppy and high-pitched and just not at all what I wanted. But it did work this 
is the cellular model of the se.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
> was great!, I'm left with a question.
> 
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, do 
> you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
> 
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to know 
> as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 
> 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my 
> Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice 
> from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster 
> processor and innards in the Series 6.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>> I may try again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at:
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637411380266085664%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yuBw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOd
>> P8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
>> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb37
>> 8a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
>> C637411380266085664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
>> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yu
>> Bw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOdP8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0>
>> 
>> *I’m not the card shark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the 
>> Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation 
>> was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I 
>> don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I 
>> can’t tell you now how or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a 
>> new device and I don’t remember. But the fluctuating intonation was 
>> crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says 
>> that if you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the 
>> Siri female voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck 
>> with Samantha, who is not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom 
>> enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do not see a way to change 
>> from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that 

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Jan Stirbens]

Hello,

I have the watch series 6, cellular model, and the voices don’t work for me.
I called apple accessibility,, and was told the engineers are aware of the 
problem.

Jan

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
> was great!, I'm left with a question.
> 
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, do 
> you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
> 
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to know 
> as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 
> 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my 
> Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice 
> from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster 
> processor and innards in the Series 6.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>> I may try again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at:
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637411380266085664%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yuBw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOd
>> P8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
>> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb37
>> 8a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
>> C637411380266085664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
>> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yu
>> Bw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOdP8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0>
>> 
>> *I’m not the card shark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the 
>> Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation 
>> was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I 
>> don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I 
>> can’t tell you now how or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a 
>> new device and I don’t remember. But the fluctuating intonation was 
>> crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says 
>> that if you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the 
>> Siri female voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck 
>> with Samantha, who is not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom 
>> enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do not see a way to change 
>> from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

Hello again,
After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who was 
great!, I'm left with a question.

For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, do 
you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?

Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' has 
the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to know as 
well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.

Thanks,


Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 4 
watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my Series 6, 
the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice from the 
phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster processor and 
innards in the Series 6.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
> I may try again.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637411380266085664%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yuBw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOd
> P8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb37
> 8a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
> C637411380266085664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yu
> Bw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOdP8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0>
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> Hi richard,
> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the 
> Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation 
> was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I 
> don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I 
> can’t tell you now how or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a 
> new device and I don’t remember. But the fluctuating intonation was 
> crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says 
> that if you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the 
> Siri female voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck 
> with Samantha, who is not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom 
> enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do not see a way to change 
> from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:
> mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - 
> yo

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

Well, Wayne, you are very lucky.
When I turn on the Siri Voice on the watch, it turns off again.
I guess it is time to sit on hold with Apple Accessibility.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 4 
watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my Series 6, 
the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice from the 
phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster processor and 
innards in the Series 6.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
> I may try again.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637411380266085664%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yuBw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOd
> P8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb37
> 8a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
> C637411380266085664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yu
> Bw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOdP8OdPcE%3Dreserved=0>
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> Hi richard,
> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the 
> Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation 
> was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I 
> don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I 
> can’t tell you now how or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a 
> new device and I don’t remember. But the fluctuating intonation was 
> crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says 
> that if you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the 
> Siri female voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck 
> with Samantha, who is not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom 
> enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do not see a way to change 
> from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
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> 1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f64

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Wayne Merritt]

I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the
Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice,
but on my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able
to use the voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to
do with the faster processor and innards in the Series 6.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
> I may try again.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D=0>
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> Hi richard,
> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the Siri
> mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation was all
> messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I don’t think you
> can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I can’t tell you now how
> or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a new device and I don’t
> remember. But the fluctuating intonation was crazy making. So if the female
> voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says that if
> you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the Siri female
> voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck with Samantha, who is
> not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom enhanced or the Siri female voice,
> but I do not see a way to change from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch
> yesterday.
>
>
> Richard
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RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

Thanks for the feedback.
I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
I may try again.



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Otten
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Hi richard,
I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the Siri mail 
voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation was all messed up, 
pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I don’t think you can get all 
those other invoices like Tom etc. And I can’t tell you now how or why this 
Siri mail turned up, because it’s a new device and I don’t remember. But the 
fluctuating intonation was crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, 
it’s really not too good.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says that if you 
select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the Siri female voice, 
but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck with Samantha, who is not my 
favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do 
not see a way to change from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.


Richard
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Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the Siri mail 
voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation was all messed up, 
pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I don’t think you can get all 
those other invoices like Tom etc. And I can’t tell you now how or why this 
Siri mail turned up, because it’s a new device and I don’t remember. But the 
fluctuating intonation was crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, 
it’s really not too good.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says that if 
> you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the Siri female 
> voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck with Samantha, who is 
> not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom enhanced or the Siri female voice, 
> but I do not see a way to change from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch 
> yesterday.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[Richard Turner]

It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says that if you 
select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the Siri female voice, 
but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck with Samantha, who is not my 
favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do 
not see a way to change from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
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RE: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I'm not sure if iTunes shows your photos on the hard drive or not.
It used to.
I think it might not any longer.
I forgot about Airdrop, leave it to the young people, grin.



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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 12:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6

Richard, 
With Bluetooth turned on, the 105 photos in the eight videos transferred very 
quickly through airdrop. That’s what this young smith college student advised 
me to do. Apparently it worked. Now if I back up my SE 2020 through iTunes and 
I Tele transfer the photos will I be able to access them on my hard drive?
It seems like it would write? Is my logic brain not working today?
Deidre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you don't have enough iCloud space to have them uploaded to iCloud and 
> synced over that way, you can try using Windows Explorer.
> Plug the phone in to the computer.
> Launch Windows Explorer and navigate to the Apple iPhone.
> There are several subfolders you have to open to get to the image/photo files.
> They in fact may be in several folders themselves.
> I find on iOS 14, which may be different than your old phone on 11 or 12, is 
> the main folder is Apple iPhone,
> Select and hit enter on that, and I find Internal Storage, select and hit 
> enter on that.
> Then there is a DCMI folder, do the same.
> Now, you should have a folder or folders of your photo files.
> Select all with Control A and then copy with control C.
> Go to your hard drive and put them somewhere you can find them and paste.
> On the new phone, reverse the process.
> Open those folders on the new phone with Windows Explorer, and once in the 
> DCMI folder, you should be able to paste the ones from your computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 4:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6
> 
> Hello all,
> I think this ought to be a very easy question for some of you to answer. 
> Somehow it’s not registering how to do this effectively in my own mind.
> I have an old iPhone 6 that with a badly shattered screen that I no longer 
> use. The best of my photos dating as far back as 2015 are on that phone. What 
> would you say is the easiest way to transfer those photos to an iPhone 6s or 
> to my newer SE 2020? I’m sure that phone has not been updated to a version of 
> iOS that’s even 13. So it’s probably 12 point something or other. I hope that 
> ladder fact doesn’t make it impossible for me to access those photos or 
> rather transfer them to one of my other phones.
> Thanks for any solutions you can provide. I have a feeling this might be an 
> easy one.
> Deirdre
> 
> 
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Re: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6

[deidre muccio]

Richard, 
With Bluetooth turned on, the 105 photos in the eight videos transferred very 
quickly through airdrop. That’s what this young smith college student advised 
me to do. Apparently it worked. Now if I back up my SE 2020 through iTunes and 
I Tele transfer the photos will I be able to access them on my hard drive?
It seems like it would write? Is my logic brain not working today?
Deidre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you don't have enough iCloud space to have them uploaded to iCloud and 
> synced over that way, you can try using Windows Explorer.
> Plug the phone in to the computer.
> Launch Windows Explorer and navigate to the Apple iPhone.
> There are several subfolders you have to open to get to the image/photo files.
> They in fact may be in several folders themselves.
> I find on iOS 14, which may be different than your old phone on 11 or 12, is 
> the main folder is Apple iPhone,
> Select and hit enter on that, and I find Internal Storage, select and hit 
> enter on that.
> Then there is a DCMI folder, do the same.
> Now, you should have a folder or folders of your photo files.
> Select all with Control A and then copy with control C.
> Go to your hard drive and put them somewhere you can find them and paste.
> On the new phone, reverse the process.
> Open those folders on the new phone with Windows Explorer, and once in the 
> DCMI folder, you should be able to paste the ones from your computer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 4:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6
> 
> Hello all,
> I think this ought to be a very easy question for some of you to answer. 
> Somehow it’s not registering how to do this effectively in my own mind.
> I have an old iPhone 6 that with a badly shattered screen that I no longer 
> use. The best of my photos dating as far back as 2015 are on that phone. What 
> would you say is the easiest way to transfer those photos to an iPhone 6s or 
> to my newer SE 2020? I’m sure that phone has not been updated to a version of 
> iOS that’s even 13. So it’s probably 12 point something or other. I hope that 
> ladder fact doesn’t make it impossible for me to access those photos or 
> rather transfer them to one of my other phones.
> Thanks for any solutions you can provide. I have a feeling this might be an 
> easy one.
> Deirdre
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6

[Richard Turner]

If you don't have enough iCloud space to have them uploaded to iCloud and 
synced over that way, you can try using Windows Explorer.
Plug the phone in to the computer.
Launch Windows Explorer and navigate to the Apple iPhone.
There are several subfolders you have to open to get to the image/photo files.
They in fact may be in several folders themselves.
I find on iOS 14, which may be different than your old phone on 11 or 12, is 
the main folder is Apple iPhone,
Select and hit enter on that, and I find Internal Storage, select and hit enter 
on that.
Then there is a DCMI folder, do the same.
Now, you should have a folder or folders of your photo files.
Select all with Control A and then copy with control C.
Go to your hard drive and put them somewhere you can find them and paste.
On the new phone, reverse the process.
Open those folders on the new phone with Windows Explorer, and once in the DCMI 
folder, you should be able to paste the ones from your computer.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6

Hello all,
I think this ought to be a very easy question for some of you to answer. 
Somehow it’s not registering how to do this effectively in my own mind.
I have an old iPhone 6 that with a badly shattered screen that I no longer use. 
The best of my photos dating as far back as 2015 are on that phone. What would 
you say is the easiest way to transfer those photos to an iPhone 6s or to my 
newer SE 2020? I’m sure that phone has not been updated to a version of iOS 
that’s even 13. So it’s probably 12 point something or other. I hope that 
ladder fact doesn’t make it impossible for me to access those photos or rather 
transfer them to one of my other phones.
Thanks for any solutions you can provide. I have a feeling this might be an 
easy one.
Deirdre


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Transferring photos from an old iPhone 6

[deidre muccio]

Hello all,
I think this ought to be a very easy question for some of you to answer. 
Somehow it’s not registering how to do this effectively in my own mind.
I have an old iPhone 6 that with a badly shattered screen that I no longer use. 
The best of my photos dating as far back as 2015 are on that phone. What would 
you say is the easiest way to transfer those photos to an iPhone 6s or to my 
newer SE 2020? I’m sure that phone has not been updated to a version of iOS 
that’s even 13. So it’s probably 12 point something or other. I hope that 
ladder fact doesn’t make it impossible for me to access those photos or rather 
transfer them to one of my other phones.
Thanks for any solutions you can provide. I have a feeling this might be an 
easy one.
Deirdre


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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

[Simon A Fogarty]

And the apple watch SE has the processor from the apple watch 5,
Yes a new processor in the series 6.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2020 8:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It was MyUnderStanding that the ECG  is ON  Apple's Series4 & Series5 
AppleWatch  In AdditionTo its NewlyReleased Series6 AppleWatch, but Not Present 
ON  Apple's NEW AppleWatchSE

As Far as  (I  Know) the Series6 AppleWatch has an Improved Processor & always 
on altimeter

the Series5 AppleWatch comes EquippedWith  Always ON
At 11:57 AM 9/26/2020, you wrote:


>From my reading, the ECG is only on the 6.

The 6 has the always on retina display, and I believe the always on altimeter?

The next step up in processors, I’m not clear on the exact names of the watch 
processors, but it is next one up in the series so a faster processor.



Beyond that, I’m not sure.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,†and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



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Michael Hingson Hi all,



I don’t recall seeing any comparison between the just released model 6 and 
the previous model 5 of the iWatch. Might someone please summarize the actual 
differences? What do you get with the 6 that you do not get with the 5. I am 
familiar with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.





Best Regards,





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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

The ECG was on the 4 and 5 as well as the 6,
But out of the 6 and se yes the 6 has the blood o2 meter, ecg,and something 
else which escapes me.


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Turner
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>From my reading, the ECG is only on the 6.
The 6 has the always on retina display, and I believe the always on altimeter?
The next step up in processors, I’m not clear on the exact names of the watch 
processors, but it is next one up in the series so a faster processor.

Beyond that, I’m not sure.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Michael Hingson Hi all,

I don’t recall seeing any comparison between the just released model 6 and the 
previous model 5 of the iWatch. Might someone please summarize the actual 
differences? What do you get with the 6 that you do not get with the 5. I am 
familiar with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.


Best Regards,


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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

[Robin]

Also ForGot to Mention:
the  Blood Oxygen Monitor is Only  on the Series6 AppleWatch
At 12:15 PM 9/26/2020, you wrote:
It was MyUnderStanding that the ECG  is 
ON  Apple's Series4 & Series5 AppleWatch  In 
AdditionTo its NewlyReleased Series6 AppleWatch, 
but Not Present ON  Apple's NEW AppleWatchSE


As Far as  (I  Know) the Series6 AppleWatch has 
an Improved Processor & always on altimeter


the Series5 AppleWatch comes EquippedWith  Always ON
At 11:57 AM 9/26/2020, you wrote:


From my reading, the ECG is only on the 6.

The 6 has the always on retina display, and I 
believe the always on altimeter?


The next step up in processors, I̢۪m not 
clear on thethe exact names of the watch 
processors, but it is next one up in the series so a faster processor.




Beyond that, I̢۪m not sure.

>





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the 
bridge over which he must pass himself,†and 
we forget that only grace can break the ccycle 
of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is 
notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I̢۪ve never once 
regretretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert




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Michael Hingson Hi all,



I don̢۪t recall seeing any comparison between 
the jusjust released model 6 and the previous 
model 5 of the iWatch. Might someone please 
summarize the actual differences? What do you 
get with the 6 that you do not get with the 5. 
I am familiar with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.






Best Regards,





Michael Hingson

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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

[Robin]

It was MyUnderStanding that the ECG  is 
ON  Apple's Series4 & Series5 AppleWatch  In 
AdditionTo its NewlyReleased Series6 AppleWatch, 
but Not Present ON  Apple's NEW AppleWatchSE


As Far as  (I  Know) the Series6 AppleWatch has 
an Improved Processor & always on altimeter


the Series5 AppleWatch comes EquippedWith  Always ON
At 11:57 AM 9/26/2020, you wrote:


From my reading, the ECG is only on the 6.

The 6 has the always on retina display, and I believe the always on altimeter?

The next step up in processors, I’m not clear 
on the exact names of the watch processors, but 
it is next one up in the series so a faster processor.




Beyond that, I’m not sure.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge 
over which he must pass himself,† and we 
forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable 
that while I have regretted not granting grace 
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert




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Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:55 AM
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Subject: RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6



Michael Hingson Hi all,



I don’t recall seeing any comparison between 
the just released model 6 and the previous model 
5 of the iWatch. Might someone please summarize 
the actual differences? What do you get with the 
6 that you do not get with the 5. I am familiar 
with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.






Best Regards,





Michael Hingson

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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

[Richard Turner]

>From my reading, the ECG is only on the 6.
The 6 has the always on retina display, and I believe the always on altimeter?
The next step up in processors, I’m not clear on the exact names of the watch 
processors, but it is next one up in the series so a faster processor.

Beyond that, I’m not sure.



Richard
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Subject: RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

Michael Hingson Hi all,

I don’t recall seeing any comparison between the just released model 6 and the 
previous model 5 of the iWatch. Might someone please summarize the actual 
differences? What do you get with the 6 that you do not get with the 5. I am 
familiar with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.


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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

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Michael Hingson Hi all,

 

I don’t recall seeing any comparison between the just released model 6 and the 
previous model 5 of the iWatch. Might someone please summarize the actual 
differences? What do you get with the 6 that you do not get with the 5. I am 
familiar with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Want to sync iPhone 6 and iPhone S E 2020

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

What I would do is to turn the new phone on. Then press the home button three 
times after a few seconds of waiting for the new phone to turn on.

Now, make sure your old phone i on
A message should pop asking you if you want to sync the two phones. Double tap 
yes.

Now you will have to follow the prompts that will ask you to double tap on a 
button so that you can verify and start the transfer. There is a numeric code 
that must be entered on your new phone. There is a manual option so you don’t 
have to have the cameras right by each other.

After that, it should be self-explanatory. If you get lost, don’t hesitate to 
reach out to me at pup...@icloud.com

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Donald Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The subject says it.  I backed up my 6 to iCloud and now want to download 
> everything on the 6 to my S E.  I turned off Find my iPhone and know how to 
> get to iCloud on my S E.  But now what do I do?
> 
> 
> 
> I probably should mention that I started first to set up the phone including 
> the network, user name and password, etc., and I realize that I could reset 
> the phone and start from scratch; however, I hope not to have to do that 
> because I am clumsy using the phone's keyboard and work far better when I 
> have a blue tooth keyboard installed.  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
> 
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Want to sync iPhone 6 and iPhone S E 2020

[Donald Roberts]

The subject says it.  I backed up my 6 to iCloud and now want to 
download everything on the 6 to my S E.  I turned off Find my iPhone and 
know how to get to iCloud on my S E.  But now what do I do?



I probably should mention that I started first to set up the phone 
including the network, user name and password, etc., and I realize that 
I could reset the phone and start from scratch; however, I hope not to 
have to do that because I am clumsy using the phone's keyboard and work 
far better when I have a blue tooth keyboard installed.


Thanks.


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6 Free iOS Apps to Stream Music from Cloud in Offline | MashTips

[Richard Turner]

There has been talk about playing music from Dropbox, which I have not done, 
but here is an article that may be helpful.

https://mashtips.com/ios-cloud-music-player-apps/




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RE: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

[Carolyn]

It is the next to the last entry in General, just before Shut Down. 

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Subject: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

Hi,
I have a friend who’s willing to give us an iPhone 6, but she doesn’t know how 
to get it back to its original factory settings.
I don’t have an iPhone myself. I do have an iPad Mini, but I never investigated 
how to put it back to its original settings because I have no plans to give it 
away or sell it.
Any info on how to put an iPhone 6 back to factory settings would be very 
helpful.
Thanks very much in advance.
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Re: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

[Evan Reese]

Thanks very much. This is very helpful. I will send it to her.
Evan


From: Feliciano Godoy 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2019 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

Hi, 
The first thing you want the friend to do is to go to the iPhone settings the 
Apple ID section then go to iCloud followed by find my iPhone and make sure 
that is off. Once that has been disabled, go to iPhone settings, general, very 
bottom there is reset. What you want to choose is erase all content and 
settings. This will wipe the iPhone to factory settings. Once it has been 
reset, you can triple click the home button to enable voiceover and set up the 
iphone.


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  On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:


   
  Hi,
  I have a friend who’s willing to give us an iPhone 6, but she doesn’t know 
how to get it back to its original factory settings.
  I don’t have an iPhone myself. I do have an iPad Mini, but I never 
investigated how to put it back to its original settings because I have no 
plans to give it away or sell it.
  Any info on how to put an iPhone 6 back to factory settings would be very 
helpful.
  Thanks very much in advance.
  Evan
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Re: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
The first thing you want the friend to do is to go to the iPhone settings the 
Apple ID section then go to iCloud followed by find my iPhone and make sure 
that is off. Once that has been disabled, go to iPhone settings, general, very 
bottom there is reset. What you want to choose is erase all content and 
settings. This will wipe the iPhone to factory settings. Once it has been 
reset, you can triple click the home button to enable voiceover and set up the 
iphone.

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On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:


Hi,
I have a friend who’s willing to give us an iPhone 6, but she doesn’t know how 
to get it back to its original factory settings.
I don’t have an iPhone myself. I do have an iPad Mini, but I never investigated 
how to put it back to its original settings because I have no plans to give it 
away or sell it.
Any info on how to put an iPhone 6 back to factory settings would be very 
helpful.
Thanks very much in advance.
Evan

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RE: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

[Larry Lumpkin]

There’s a setting in setting to “Reset to factory” I think.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 9:10 PM
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Subject: Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

 

Hi,

I have a friend who’s willing to give us an iPhone 6, but she doesn’t know how 
to get it back to its original factory settings.

I don’t have an iPhone myself. I do have an iPad Mini, but I never investigated 
how to put it back to its original settings because I have no plans to give it 
away or sell it.

Any info on how to put an iPhone 6 back to factory settings would be very 
helpful.

Thanks very much in advance.

Evan

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Putting an iPhone 6 Back to Factory Settings

[Evan Reese]

Hi,
I have a friend who’s willing to give us an iPhone 6, but she doesn’t know how 
to get it back to its original factory settings.
I don’t have an iPhone myself. I do have an iPad Mini, but I never investigated 
how to put it back to its original settings because I have no plans to give it 
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Any info on how to put an iPhone 6 back to factory settings would be very 
helpful.
Thanks very much in advance.
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Re: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

[John Panarese]

  I appreciate the info as well. I have been looking for a complication with 
more than five options. This works beautifully. 


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> On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ed, I found it. 8 is a lot of complications, but it looks to be what I 
> was looking for. Now that I have a Series 4 watch that has a much bigger 
> screen, I'm finding use for all those complications. Regarding Sieghard's 
> question, I'd rather have everything on 1 watch face. Sure, I could switch 
> between faces with the 2 finger swipe, but most of the time I forget about 
> that gesture and never go to other faces. 
> 
> Wayne 
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent from my iPhone XR
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Not possible unless Apple designs a watch face with that many complications 
>> which is doubtful..
>> Why not just put another watch face in front or after and put another 3 or 4 
>> complications on it then a 2finger swipe left or right will do it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
>> Merritt
>> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 1:20 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4
>> 
>> Greetings. I use one of the modular infograph watch faces on my Series
>> 4 Apple Watch running WatchOS 6.1. The face I use has 5 complications, but I 
>> would like to add one or two more. There does not seem to be a way to add 
>> another complication to a watch face, unless I'm missing something. I've 
>> done some browsing in the Watch Face tab of the Watch iPhone app and cannot 
>> find a face with 7 or 8 complications. My Series
>> 4 watch is the 44mm size, so I'm sure there's room. Does anyone know of a 
>> face that will allow 7 or 8 complications, or a way to add more 
>> complications to an existing watch face?
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
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Re: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

[Wayne Merritt]

Thanks Ed, I found it. 8 is a lot of complications, but it looks to be what I 
was looking for. Now that I have a Series 4 watch that has a much bigger 
screen, I'm finding use for all those complications. Regarding Sieghard's 
question, I'd rather have everything on 1 watch face. Sure, I could switch 
between faces with the 2 finger swipe, but most of the time I forget about that 
gesture and never go to other faces. 

Wayne 

Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone XR

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Not possible unless Apple designs a watch face with that many complications 
> which is doubtful..
> Why not just put another watch face in front or after and put another 3 or 4 
> complications on it then a 2finger swipe left or right will do it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 1:20 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4
> 
> Greetings. I use one of the modular infograph watch faces on my Series
> 4 Apple Watch running WatchOS 6.1. The face I use has 5 complications, but I 
> would like to add one or two more. There does not seem to be a way to add 
> another complication to a watch face, unless I'm missing something. I've done 
> some browsing in the Watch Face tab of the Watch iPhone app and cannot find a 
> face with 7 or 8 complications. My Series
> 4 watch is the 44mm size, so I'm sure there's room. Does anyone know of a 
> face that will allow 7 or 8 complications, or a way to add more complications 
> to an existing watch face?
> 
> Thanks for any assistance,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
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RE: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not possible unless Apple designs a watch face with that many complications 
which is doubtful..
Why not just put another watch face in front or after and put another 3 or 4 
complications on it then a 2finger swipe left or right will do it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 1:20 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

Greetings. I use one of the modular infograph watch faces on my Series
4 Apple Watch running WatchOS 6.1. The face I use has 5 complications, but I 
would like to add one or two more. There does not seem to be a way to add 
another complication to a watch face, unless I'm missing something. I've done 
some browsing in the Watch Face tab of the Watch iPhone app and cannot find a 
face with 7 or 8 complications. My Series
4 watch is the 44mm size, so I'm sure there's room. Does anyone know of a face 
that will allow 7 or 8 complications, or a way to add more complications to an 
existing watch face?

Thanks for any assistance,
Wayne Merritt

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Re: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Wayne,

The watch face your looking for is called the InfoGraph face. This will allow 
you to add up to 8 complication s 


I hope this helps,

Ed W.


> On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Greetings. I use one of the modular infograph watch faces on my Series
> 4 Apple Watch running WatchOS 6.1. The face I use has 5 complications,
> but I would like to add one or two more. There does not seem to be a
> way to add another complication to a watch face, unless I'm missing
> something. I've done some browsing in the Watch Face tab of the Watch
> iPhone app and cannot find a face with 7 or 8 complications. My Series
> 4 watch is the 44mm size, so I'm sure there's room. Does anyone know
> of a face that will allow 7 or 8 complications, or a way to add more
> complications to an existing watch face?
> 
> Thanks for any assistance,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
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Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings. I use one of the modular infograph watch faces on my Series
4 Apple Watch running WatchOS 6.1. The face I use has 5 complications,
but I would like to add one or two more. There does not seem to be a
way to add another complication to a watch face, unless I'm missing
something. I've done some browsing in the Watch Face tab of the Watch
iPhone app and cannot find a face with 7 or 8 complications. My Series
4 watch is the 44mm size, so I'm sure there's room. Does anyone know
of a face that will allow 7 or 8 complications, or a way to add more
complications to an existing watch face?

Thanks for any assistance,
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