RE: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen

2024-03-11 Thread Richard Turner
I'm glad that worked as expected.

I really like the Shokz bone conduction headphones.


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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen

Hi! Richard:

Just wanted to say thank you for the instruction on pairing my Aftershokz 
Bluetooth headset with the phone brand new phone and I didn’t think that it 
would do it and I thought I might have to get the new headset but no I it came 
up and then I tapped onwhere we came up in in the Bluetooth listing and it 
connected fine so I’m all set to go Richard. Thank you so so much and it’s 
appreciated.

Michael McKay. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2024, at 13:15, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> They should pair just fine.
> You make sure the shokz are off.
> Open the Bluetooth settings on your iPhone and of course make sure Bluetooth 
> is on.
> Now, hold the power on button on the shokz until it says pairing.
> Then it should show up in the Bluetooth settings on the iPhone and double tap 
> it and release the power button on the shokz and it should pair just fine.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
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> 2024.2403.3
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ 
> Koelen
> 
> Hi! Folks:
> 
> I’m looking for some assistance in pairing my new iPhone 15+ with my open 
> move Aftershokz bone conduction headphones they are Bluetooth and I am having 
> some difficulty. Can anyone tell me if I need to purchase a newer pair of 
> headphones, or will these ones pair with the iPhone 15+. Thank you much, and 
> I will wait to hear from someone.
> 
> Cheers!
> Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen

2024-03-11 Thread Michael McKay
Hi! Richard:

Just wanted to say thank you for the instruction on pairing my Aftershokz 
Bluetooth headset with the phone brand new phone and I didn’t think that it 
would do it and I thought I might have to get the new headset but no I it came 
up and then I tapped onwhere we came up in in the Bluetooth listing and it 
connected fine so I’m all set to go Richard. Thank you so so much and it’s 
appreciated.

Michael McKay. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2024, at 13:15, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> They should pair just fine.
> You make sure the shokz are off.
> Open the Bluetooth settings on your iPhone and of course make sure Bluetooth 
> is on.
> Now, hold the power on button on the shokz until it says pairing.
> Then it should show up in the Bluetooth settings on the iPhone and double tap 
> it and release the power button on the shokz and it should pair just fine.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen
> 
> Hi! Folks:
> 
> I’m looking for some assistance in pairing my new iPhone 15+ with my open 
> move Aftershokz bone conduction headphones they are Bluetooth and I am having 
> some difficulty. Can anyone tell me if I need to purchase a newer pair of 
> headphones, or will these ones pair with the iPhone 15+. Thank you much, and 
> I will wait to hear from someone.
> 
> Cheers!
> Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen

2024-03-11 Thread Richard Turner
They should pair just fine.
You make sure the shokz are off.
Open the Bluetooth settings on your iPhone and of course make sure Bluetooth is 
on.
Now, hold the power on button on the shokz until it says pairing.
Then it should show up in the Bluetooth settings on the iPhone and double tap 
it and release the power button on the shokz and it should pair just fine.


Richard, USA
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 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen

Hi! Folks:

I’m looking for some assistance in pairing my new iPhone 15+ with my open move 
Aftershokz bone conduction headphones they are Bluetooth and I am having some 
difficulty. Can anyone tell me if I need to purchase a newer pair of 
headphones, or will these ones pair with the iPhone 15+. Thank you much, and I 
will wait to hear from someone.

Cheers!
Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

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Assistance with pairing Aftershokz headset with iPhone 15+ Koelen

2024-03-11 Thread Michael McKay
Hi! Folks:

I’m looking for some assistance in pairing my new iPhone 15+ with my open move 
Aftershokz bone conduction headphones they are Bluetooth and I am having some 
difficulty. Can anyone tell me if I need to purchase a newer pair of 
headphones, or will these ones pair with the iPhone 15+. Thank you much, and I 
will wait to hear from someone.

Cheers!
Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-13 Thread Michael G McKay
Hi! Richard, and List members:

 

I have the Aftershokz Titanium Bluetooth bone conduction headset, and they are 
the best headset I have ever owned in my opinion. I like it very much. I have 
just had to have them replaced with the warrenty as they did break on me. I was 
a bit disappointed when I learned that the Titanium version of the headset was 
discontinued. I am currently waiting for the delivery of the upgrade which I 
understand is the Opencom version, and the titanium whs a round wrap around the 
back of the head, and I believe that the Opencom version is the same. I will 
check it out when it arrives, and let you all know.

 

Regards!

Michael G. McKay BA, ’05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: November 13, 2021 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

 

Yes, I think all of their headsets have the same basic configuration around the 
back of the neck/head.

It has been a while since I saw the titanium model, but this band is round, not 
flat.  I don’t recall if the previous models had a flat band but just want to 
make that clear.

I’m finding them quite good and the battery life is way better than I expected.

They came fully charged as I said, I wore them several hours on Thursday, and 
several more yesterday, and some this morning, at least 10 hours total, 
according to my iPhone battery widget they are at 40%.

 

I am going to be traveling in a car later today for about an hour to another 
city and plan to experiment with some GPS apps to see how they do.

 

I will probably charge them before leaving at about 3 today.  I’m running them 
to try to get them run down to a low level so I can fully charge them again.

 

I’m probably going to redo my demo and be a bit more thorough now that I have 
had them a bit longer.  I will try to be more concise as well.  I think I will 
keep the section on the noise cancelation and record the rest over.

 

Just pondering all that now.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

 

Sounds pretty good, Richard, are they like the Titanium with a band going 
around the back of your neck? From your button description it sounds similar, 
the right side of my Aftershokz Titanium.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: November 12, 2021 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

 

Greetings,

 

Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go 
ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here said 
they seemed more flexible than previous models.

 

I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.

 

My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset when I 
called her using my iPhone.

 

I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound quality 
for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any primarily spoken 
word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact they do not feel like a 
vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite good.  The noise cancelation 
is excellent.

 

I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7 minutes 
or so, I turn on the TV in the room I’m in and crank it way up.  You can judge 
for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.

Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing automatically:

 

www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FAftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3&data=04%7C01%7C%7C55f5fd867e9d41cb206c08d9a6c6ad0e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637724194507325521%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QQYq%2FtfBjTbmMFtx0cZsQ9CsWkVkHnvClIAj7yFVGpc%3D&reserved=0>
 

 

Happy listening,

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C55f5fd867e9d41cb206c08d9a6c6ad0e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637724194507335481%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=8oE2mCmwYHAdB8kkBF4caqgMtA2WIXHMdN

RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-13 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, I think all of their headsets have the same basic configuration around the 
back of the neck/head.
It has been a while since I saw the titanium model, but this band is round, not 
flat.  I don't recall if the previous models had a flat band but just want to 
make that clear.
I'm finding them quite good and the battery life is way better than I expected.
They came fully charged as I said, I wore them several hours on Thursday, and 
several more yesterday, and some this morning, at least 10 hours total, 
according to my iPhone battery widget they are at 40%.

I am going to be traveling in a car later today for about an hour to another 
city and plan to experiment with some GPS apps to see how they do.

I will probably charge them before leaving at about 3 today.  I'm running them 
to try to get them run down to a low level so I can fully charge them again.

I'm probably going to redo my demo and be a bit more thorough now that I have 
had them a bit longer.  I will try to be more concise as well.  I think I will 
keep the section on the noise cancelation and record the rest over.

Just pondering all that now.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

Sounds pretty good, Richard, are they like the Titanium with a band going 
around the back of your neck? From your button description it sounds similar, 
the right side of my Aftershokz Titanium.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: November 12, 2021 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

Greetings,

Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go 
ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here said 
they seemed more flexible than previous models.

I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.

My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset when I 
called her using my iPhone.

I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound quality 
for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any primarily spoken 
word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact they do not feel like a 
vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite good.  The noise cancelation 
is excellent.

I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7 minutes 
or so, I turn on the TV in the room I'm in and crank it way up.  You can judge 
for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.
Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing automatically:

www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FAftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3&data=04%7C01%7C%7C55f5fd867e9d41cb206c08d9a6c6ad0e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637724194507325521%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QQYq%2FtfBjTbmMFtx0cZsQ9CsWkVkHnvClIAj7yFVGpc%3D&reserved=0>

Happy listening,
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

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RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sounds pretty good, Richard, are they like the Titanium with a band going 
around the back of your neck? From your button description it sounds similar, 
the right side of my Aftershokz Titanium.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: November 12, 2021 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

Greetings,

Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go 
ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here said 
they seemed more flexible than previous models.

I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.

My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset when I 
called her using my iPhone.

I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound quality 
for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any primarily spoken 
word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact they do not feel like a 
vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite good.  The noise cancelation 
is excellent.

I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7 minutes 
or so, I turn on the TV in the room I’m in and crank it way up.  You can judge 
for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.
Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing automatically:

www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3<http://www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3>

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Re: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-12 Thread Nimer Jaber
Apologies, must have had some strange thing happens, link is working.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021, 11:10 Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
>
> Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go
> ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here
> said they seemed more flexible than previous models.
>
>
>
> I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.
>
>
>
> My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset
> when I called her using my iPhone.
>
>
>
> I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound
> quality for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any
> primarily spoken word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact
> they do not feel like a vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite
> good.  The noise cancelation is excellent.
>
>
>
> I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7
> minutes or so, I turn on the TV in the room I’m in and crank it way up.
> You can judge for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.
>
> Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing
> automatically:
>
>
>
> www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3
>
>
>
> Happy listening,
>
> Richard
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.” – Jane Wagner
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> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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RE: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-12 Thread Richard Turner
Well, I just clicked on the link and it began playing in Edge for me.

What browser are you using?




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 12:15 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

Hello,

I'm glad you are liking them, but the link seems to return a 404.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:10 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Greetings,

Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go 
ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here said 
they seemed more flexible than previous models.

I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.

My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset when I 
called her using my iPhone.

I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound quality 
for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any primarily spoken 
word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact they do not feel like a 
vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite good.  The noise cancelation 
is excellent.

I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7 minutes 
or so, I turn on the TV in the room I'm in and crank it way up.  You can judge 
for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.
Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing automatically:

www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FAftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0b4b866c1be149059b9808d9a6192b34%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637723449295468651%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=S0fXSGrKxmxmvCIh%2BMbSwhkYhhRhO5dkS9vXy1zOd14%3D&reserved=0>

Happy listening,
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Re: Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-12 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I'm glad you are liking them, but the link seems to return a 404.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 11:10 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
>
> Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go
> ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here
> said they seemed more flexible than previous models.
>
>
>
> I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.
>
>
>
> My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset
> when I called her using my iPhone.
>
>
>
> I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound
> quality for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any
> primarily spoken word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact
> they do not feel like a vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite
> good.  The noise cancelation is excellent.
>
>
>
> I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7
> minutes or so, I turn on the TV in the room I’m in and crank it way up.
> You can judge for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.
>
> Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing
> automatically:
>
>
>
> www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3
>
>
>
> Happy listening,
>
> Richard
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.” – Jane Wagner
>
>
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
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Aftershokz Open Comm Demo

2021-11-12 Thread Richard Turner
Greetings,

Well, after some give and take with the Aftershokz support I decided to go 
ahead and try out the Aftershokz Open Comm headset since some people here said 
they seemed more flexible than previous models.

I ordered a pair from amazon Prime, and they arrived yesterday.

My wife said I sounded to her just like I did without using the headset when I 
called her using my iPhone.

I am finding them far easier to wear than previous models.  The sound quality 
for music is not very good.  It is tolerable for books or any primarily spoken 
word material.  The main improvement for me is the fact they do not feel like a 
vice on my head, and the boom microphone is quite good.  The noise cancelation 
is excellent.

I put a demo up on my web site.  It runs about 8 minutes.  At about 7 minutes 
or so, I turn on the TV in the room I'm in and crank it way up.  You can judge 
for yourself how the noise cancelation performs.
Here is the direct link to the demo so it should start playing automatically:

www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3<http://www.turner42.com/AftershokzOpenCommDemo.mp3>

Happy listening,
Richard
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RE: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

2021-11-08 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
They do have a phone number on their contact page:   
315-329-6792 I’ve called them before and they do answer. I’ve also contacted 
them on Twitter direct message (we follow each other) and they respond there as 
well. 

Good luck

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

 

I am not finding any way to contact Aftershokz via email.

 

Does anyone have an email address or do they only chat?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

2021-11-08 Thread Richard Turner
Thank you for that.
I sent an email and it has not bounced back, so that would appear to be a good 
address for them.

I wonder why they don't have that on their web site.  At least, it wasn't 
anywhere I could find it.

Now, we shall see if a human reads those emails.

Later,




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
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Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

Hi! Richard, and list members:

I just found this email, from Richard, and I have an Email address that might 
help in contacting Aftershokz. The contact Email is as follows: 
supp...@aftershokz.com<mailto:supp...@aftershokz.com>

I hope that this helps anyone who has been having difficulty contacting them.

Regards!
Michael G. MacKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com<mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

I am not finding any way to contact Aftershokz via email.

Does anyone have an email address or do they only chat?





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RE: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

2021-11-08 Thread Michael G McKay
Hi! Richard, and list members:

 

I just found this email, from Richard, and I have an Email address that might 
help in contacting Aftershokz. The contact Email is as follows: 
supp...@aftershokz.com <mailto:supp...@aftershokz.com> 

 

I hope that this helps anyone who has been having difficulty contacting them.

 

Regards!

Michael G. MacKay BA, ’05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com> 

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: November 8, 2021 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

 

I am not finding any way to contact Aftershokz via email.

 

Does anyone have an email address or do they only chat?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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Aftershokz contact information, email preferred

2021-11-08 Thread Richard Turner
I am not finding any way to contact Aftershokz via email.

Does anyone have an email address or do they only chat?





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RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread scribbles.mn
I bought it some time ago at Amazon and if I remember correctly, it was around 
$120, but now just $102.

Amazon.com: Plantronics - Voyager 5200 UC (Poly) - Bluetooth Single-Ear 
(Monaural) Headset - USB-A Compatible to connect to your PC and/or Mac - Works 
with Teams, Zoom  
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DFQWGYB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
 & more - Noise Canceling : Electronics

If you are looking for good noise cancelling, this is not a strong point.

Marie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi where can you get this unit from and for about how much would you expect to 
pay for it?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
scribbles...@gmail.com <mailto:scribbles...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.

I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.

As always it is a matter of personal choice.

Marie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Casey Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?

Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dr

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread scribbles.mn
I bought mine at Amazon some time ago but believe it was around $120. If you 
are looking for a headset with good noise cancelling, this is not a strong 
point for the 5200.

Marie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi where can you get this unit from and for about how much would you expect to 
pay for it?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
scribbles...@gmail.com <mailto:scribbles...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.

I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.

As always it is a matter of personal choice.

Marie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Casey Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?

Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

 

I am sur

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread Simon A Fogarty
And I can tell you now the after shockz
Here in nz can price upwards of $300 nz dollars,

The bose frames I have are $420 nz dollars,

Probably about half that inn the USA give or take.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 8 November 2021 10:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

Simon is in New Zealand, I don't know where you live, but when people ask about 
where to buy things and how much they cost they really should include their 
location. Anyways, assuming you live in the United States the answer is the 
same as with all tech items, check Amazon, Best Buy, Target, Walmart and stores 
like that.
I usually encourage people to ask questions on these mailing lists, but your 
question basically means you are asking somebody to look it up for you because 
even if somebody bought the headset recently and remembers the price, that does 
not mean it still costs the same especially with Black Friday getting closer 
and Amazon and other large retailers already offering early deals.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: November 7, 2021 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

Hi where can you get this unit from and for about how much would you expect to 
pay for it?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
scribbles...@gmail.com<mailto:scribbles...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.
I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.
As always it is a matter of personal choice.
Marie


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?
Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.
If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Simon is in New Zealand, I don't know where you live, but when people ask about 
where to buy things and how much they cost they really should include their 
location. Anyways, assuming you live in the United States the answer is the 
same as with all tech items, check Amazon, Best Buy, Target, Walmart and stores 
like that.
I usually encourage people to ask questions on these mailing lists, but your 
question basically means you are asking somebody to look it up for you because 
even if somebody bought the headset recently and remembers the price, that does 
not mean it still costs the same especially with Black Friday getting closer 
and Amazon and other large retailers already offering early deals.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: November 7, 2021 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

Hi where can you get this unit from and for about how much would you expect to 
pay for it?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
scribbles...@gmail.com<mailto:scribbles...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.
I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.
As always it is a matter of personal choice.
Marie


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?
Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.
If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo 
mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com&

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yes I use a voyager 5200 with BT dongle and have the charging box also,

I used this as a headset when working on a service desk with no issues reported 
from contacts or my own reports,

I use it now for zoom calls and no one has trouble hearing me or I them,

Plus with the charging box I get approx. 10 hours of usage of course depending 
on how long i’m on calls.

I love it for these reasons,

And it is as said a single ear device,
With simple controls,

Which allows me to have a second device talking to me in the other ear at the 
same time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
scribbles...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 8 November 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.
I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.
As always it is a matter of personal choice.
Marie


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?
Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.
If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo 
mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.


On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've act

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread Casey Wollner
Hi where can you get this unit from and for about how much would you expect to 
pay for it?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
scribbles...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.

I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.

As always it is a matter of personal choice.

Marie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?

Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

 

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
quite well.

 

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20wi

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread scribbles.mn
The Plantronics 5200 is a single ear device and the battery life is good for a 
BT headset. I use it often on Zoom calls and everyone says the sound is clear 
and the volume is fine. I also have plenty of volume on my end. There are a few 
different models of this headset and I have the one which can be used with a BT 
dongle and has the charging case.

I have been very pleased with the device and prefer it to any of the 
Aftershockx I have tried, but admit I have not tried the Open Comm model. Tried 
two other Aftershockx and thought the volume too low and the sound quality only 
fair.

As always it is a matter of personal choice.

Marie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?

Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

 

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
quite well.

 

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
 for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.

 

Thanks.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when

Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-07 Thread Richard Turner
If one reads what AfterShokz says on their web site, Noise Cancelation happens 
when the boom mic is near the mouth.
My guess is the mic was poorly positioned, hence letting in the background 
sound.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Nov 6, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I agree, when he was talking on the $30 headset he did sound dull and muffled, 
but the Open Comm sounded quite clear and bright.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: November 6, 2021 4:45 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Cristobal,

I don't know if you watched this video or not, but he did not sound quiet at 
all when he reviewed the headset. Moreover, his complaint was that the headset 
didn't have noise cancellation, not that the headset was too quiet.

I still think that you should probably give them another shot if you think they 
are too quiet. In no situation are they too quiet.

As for the mute function, it is a press of two buttons, nothing janky about 
them. I can understand that you might want a single button, but saying that 
they cannot mute is just wrong.

These weren't made to be used in a call center environment, by the way, they 
are intended for use while out and about, for bike riders, for people who need 
to hear what is going on in their environment.

Listen to that review of yours, and you'll see that the quality is pretty 
decent, and far above that $30 headset he was comparing against.



On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 11:58 AM Cristobal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: 
https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F8FLOK_Eymo8&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6782f1e539014a31e62608d9a1a6f464%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637718560706184579%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sBzWuloEQZYuXPa1ZIwC9%2BPcQdZHxUddfAVJSwNfeBo%3D&reserved=0>
 I wanted them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call 
quality feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute 
button are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know 
there’s a janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just 
feels too clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of 
difference. Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in 
general.
If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo 
mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.


On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, 

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I agree, when he was talking on the $30 headset he did sound dull and muffled, 
but the Open Comm sounded quite clear and bright.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: November 6, 2021 4:45 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Cristobal,

I don't know if you watched this video or not, but he did not sound quiet at 
all when he reviewed the headset. Moreover, his complaint was that the headset 
didn't have noise cancellation, not that the headset was too quiet.

I still think that you should probably give them another shot if you think they 
are too quiet. In no situation are they too quiet.

As for the mute function, it is a press of two buttons, nothing janky about 
them. I can understand that you might want a single button, but saying that 
they cannot mute is just wrong.

These weren't made to be used in a call center environment, by the way, they 
are intended for use while out and about, for bike riders, for people who need 
to hear what is going on in their environment.

Listen to that review of yours, and you'll see that the quality is pretty 
decent, and far above that $30 headset he was comparing against.



On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 11:58 AM Cristobal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.
If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo 
mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.


On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber 
mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
quite well.

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
 for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using them. I 
wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealb

Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Mike B.
Hi Cristóbal,

I read somewhere that having Spacial sounds in Control Center turned on can 
cause this.  Did you ever check this setting by chance?


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message - 
From: Marco Curralejo
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question


Can we confirm that you are talking about the opencomms because if that is 
the case, I am very surprised you are having any issues. In fact, you are 
the first person that I have come across with such problems. Now, if you are 
talking about any other set, I can completely understand where you are 
coming from. Also, there is a mute button on the open commerce so I'm not 
sure where you are getting it from?


On 7 November 2021 05:58:47 Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:

  I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My 
experience is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: 
https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted them to work, but for $160, I just 
wasn’t convinced with the call quality feedback I was receiving. It seems 
call quality and the lack of a mute button are common complaints for people 
who end up returning them. I know there’s a janky mute function by pressing 
multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too clunky. A simple dedicated mute 
button would make a world of difference. Especially for a headset that’s 
marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.

  If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case 
for me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

  But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got 
more give than the Aeropex



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dave Clement
  Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question



  Hi,



  I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with 
the Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To 
confirm this, I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex 
Titanium and they both said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.



  At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns 
from back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to 
lay along the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come 
around to the front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you 
tried them with the boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have 
put the microphone back behind your ear and would have produced a poor 
signal. Just a thought.  Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective 
set.



  Dave Clement

  Winnipeg MB




  On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:

  

  Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and 
had absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at 
me using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you 
are getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else 
is.



  On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber  wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,



I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality 
is quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually 
used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have 
turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, 
they work quite well.



As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press 
both volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
 
for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.



Thanks.



On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz  
wrote:

  I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I 
sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using 
them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker 
for me. Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out 
to be a pain in the butt.

  Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, 
but if you are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may 
be disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.





  Cristóbal



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dave Clement
  Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
  To: viphone@googl

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
I don’t know who said that you can’t mute, but it sure wasn’t me. The process 
that I call janky to mute is my opinion, but I’m not the only one to have the 
same opinion. This is a common theme with feedback from folks who weren’t 
entirely convinced or had gripes about the headset. 

Also, it wasn’t me who said the headset was too quiet. Again, that was the 
feedback I got  from others on the other end of the call. Cell phone to cell 
phone, my iPhone or laptop to cell phones, land line etc. The call quality on 
my end was no different that the Aeropex, but again, folks on the other end had 
trouble hearing me. 

I’m going to pass on giving them an another shot as you suggest since I already 
bought a set from Amazon and directly from AfterShokz as I’d mentioned 
previously. 

To reiterate, I like the concept, the fit was comfortable  and would give them 
another try if and when Aftershokz comes out with version 2.0, but for$160 for 
a headset specifically marketed and “designed” for WFH and other working 
environments, they were and again, for me, just not convincing. Maybe at $80 or 
whatever, sure, but not for $160. 

If you find they work for you though, that’s great.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 4:45 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Cristobal,

 

I don't know if you watched this video or not, but he did not sound quiet at 
all when he reviewed the headset. Moreover, his complaint was that the headset 
didn't have noise cancellation, not that the headset was too quiet.

 

I still think that you should probably give them another shot if you think they 
are too quiet. In no situation are they too quiet.

 

As for the mute function, it is a press of two buttons, nothing janky about 
them. I can understand that you might want a single button, but saying that 
they cannot mute is just wrong.

 

These weren't made to be used in a call center environment, by the way, they 
are intended for use while out and about, for bike riders, for people who need 
to hear what is going on in their environment.

 

Listen to that review of yours, and you'll see that the quality is pretty 
decent, and far above that $30 headset he was comparing against.

 

 

 

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 11:58 AM Cristobal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 


Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Nimer Jaber
Cristobal,

I don't know if you watched this video or not, but he did not sound quiet
at all when he reviewed the headset. Moreover, his complaint was that the
headset didn't have noise cancellation, not that the headset was too quiet.

I still think that you should probably give them another shot if you think
they are too quiet. In no situation are they too quiet.

As for the mute function, it is a press of two buttons, nothing janky about
them. I can understand that you might want a single button, but saying that
they cannot mute is just wrong.

These weren't made to be used in a call center environment, by the way,
they are intended for use while out and about, for bike riders, for people
who need to hear what is going on in their environment.

Listen to that review of yours, and you'll see that the quality is pretty
decent, and far above that $30 headset he was comparing against.



On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 11:58 AM Cristobal Muñoz 
wrote:

> I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the
> phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said
> the same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My
> experience is similar to this guy’s YouTube review:
> https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted them to work, but for $160, I just
> wasn’t convinced with the call quality feedback I was receiving. It seems
> call quality and the lack of a mute button are common complaints for people
> who end up returning them. I know there’s a janky mute function by pressing
> multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too clunky. A simple dedicated
> mute button would make a world of difference. Especially for a headset
> that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.
>
> If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case
> for me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
>
> But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got
> more give than the Aeropex
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Dave Clement
> *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with
> the Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To
> confirm this, I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex
> Titanium and they both said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.
>
>
>
> At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns
> from back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to
> lay along the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come
> around to the front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you
> tried them with the boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have
> put the microphone back behind your ear and would have produced a poor
> signal. Just a thought.  Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective
> set.
>
>
>
> Dave Clement
>
> Winnipeg MB
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and
> had absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at
> me using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you
> are getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else
> is.
>
>
>
> On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>
> Hello Cristóbal,
>
>
>
> I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is
> quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually
> used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have
> turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again,
> they work quite well.
>
>
>
> As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press
> both volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see
> https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
> for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz 
> wrote:
>
> I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I
> sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using
> them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker
> for me. Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Marco Curralejo
Can we confirm that you are talking about the opencomms because if that is 
the case, I am very surprised you are having any issues. In fact, you are 
the first person that I have come across with such problems. Now, if you 
are talking about any other set, I can completely understand where you are 
coming from. Also, there is a mute button on the open commerce so I'm not 
sure where you are getting it from?


On 7 November 2021 05:58:47 Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said 
the same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My 
experience is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: 
https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted them to work, but for $160, I just 
wasn’t convinced with the call quality feedback I was receiving. It seems 
call quality and the lack of a mute button are common complaints for people 
who end up returning them. I know there’s a janky mute function by pressing 
multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too clunky. A simple dedicated 
mute button would make a world of difference. Especially for a headset 
that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general.
If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case 
for me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.
But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got 
more give than the Aeropex


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement

Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm 
this, I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and 
they both said it was much clearer with the Open Comm.


At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay 
along the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come 
around to the front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you 
tried them with the boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have 
put the microphone back behind your ear and would have produced a poor 
signal. Just a thought.  Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set.


Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and 
had absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at 
me using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you 
are getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.


On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber  wrote:
Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually 
used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have 
turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, 
they work quite well.


As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications. 
for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.


Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I 
sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using 
them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker 
for me. Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out 
to be a pain in the butt.
Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if 
you are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.



Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement

Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the 
band on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I 
did not need to try to alter it.


I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It 
is at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The 
boom arm also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise 
cancellation functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input 
signal when 

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Casey Wollner
Hi is the Plantronics 5200 A single ear piece and what is the battery life on 
it and also how do you sound to other when you are on A call?

Also does the 5200 have any noise cancelation and where can you get this 5200 
and for what price/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AfterShokz headset question

 

I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

 

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
quite well.

 

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
 for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.

 

Thanks.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using them. I 
wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker for me. 
Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out to be a 
pain in the butt.

Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if you 
are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the band on 
my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I did not 
need to try to alter it. 

 

I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. I

RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I tried a pare from Amazon as well as directly from Aftershokz. I’m on the 
phone all day for my business and there were quite a few people who said the 
same. Sounded too far, muffled and in general not close or crisp. My experience 
is similar to this guy’s YouTube review: https://youtu.be/8FLOK_Eymo8 I wanted 
them to work, but for $160, I just wasn’t convinced with the call quality 
feedback I was receiving. It seems call quality and the lack of a mute button 
are common complaints for people who end up returning them. I know there’s a 
janky mute function by pressing multiple buttons etc., but it just feels too 
clunky. A simple dedicated mute button would make a world of difference. 
Especially for a headset that’s marketed for WFH and teleworking in general. 

If you find it works for you, then that’s great. It just wasn’t the case for 
me. I ended up going back to my Plantronics 5200 headset.

But again, as far as fit and comfort, the opencomm feel like they’ve got more 
give than the Aeropex

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

 

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

 

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
quite well.

 

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
 for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.

 

Thanks.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using them. I 
wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker for me. 
Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out to be a 
pain in the butt.

Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if you 
are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the band on 
my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I did not 
need to try to alter it. 

 

I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It is at 
the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The boom arm 
also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise cancellation 
functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input signal when you are in 
a loud or noisy environment. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Richard,

 

Th

Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-06 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
I am using Trekz air and its cumfirtable in over my neck. I am also
looking to buy OpenCom just given its boom mic to deliver lecture. But
its quite expensive here in India, its being sold for 29,000 Rupees,
i.e. 370 $

On 11/6/21, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> but can you switch between two devices without having to turn off/turn
> on the devices?
>
> Yes, you can. If you check out the link I previously posted, there are
> instructions for enabling multi-point pairing. Once two devices are paired,
> they cannot both transmit audio at the same time, but when one isn't being
> used, the other will be.
>
> This might sound like a stupid question, but when you listen to music,
> books or just a screen reader using this headset, can other people hear
> what you're listening to when they are close; on the bus/train for example?
>
> The question is not stupid. If you are in a very quiet environment, there
> will be some sound leakage, but not much at all. On a bus or train, there
> isn't really any sound leakage. I wear these in the office, and people
> around me can't hear anything.
>
> Please, where can I hear how the microphone sounds?
>
> I demonstrated these on a podcast episode a few months ago. The easiest way
> to get to the content is to check out the YouTube video, and to skip to
> about 31 minutes into the video, as the first part of the video is
> dedicated to the Samsung S21 Ultra. The link to the YouTube version is at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFKo_RiUUcc
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:08 PM Mária Orovčíková
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello again,
>> thank you very much for your replies.
>> Nimer, you said that the OpenComm headset support multipoint pairing,
>> but can you switch between two devices without having to turn off/turn
>> on the devices?
>> This might sound like a stupid question, but when you listen to music,
>> books or just a screen reader using this headset, can other people hear
>> what you're listening to when they are close; on the bus/train for
>> example?
>> Please, where can I hear how the microphone sounds?
>> Thanks.
>> Maria
>>
>> Dňa 5. 11. 2021 o 22:57 Nimer Jaber napísal(a):
>> > Hello Cristóbal,
>> >
>> > I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic
>> > quality is quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet.
>> > I've actually used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube
>> > channel, which have turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for
>> > phone calls and, again, they work quite well.
>> >
>> > As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press
>> > both volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see
>> >
>> https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
>>
>> > for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that
>> > I sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I
>> > was using them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call
>> > quality was a dealbreaker for me. Also, the fact that it has no
>> > dedicated mute button also turned out to be a pain in the butt.
>> >
>> > Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the
>> > concept, but if you are working from home and want to use them for
>> > that, then you may be disappointed. As far as the band, it felt
>> > like it had more give than the Aeropex which was nice.
>> >
>> > Cristóbal
>> >
>> > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
>> > Behalf Of *Dave Clement
>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so
>> > than the band on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't
>> > say for sure as I did not need to try to alter it.
>> >
>> > I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other
>> > models. It is at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer
>> > to your mouth. The boom a

Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Nimer Jaber
but can you switch between two devices without having to turn off/turn
on the devices?

Yes, you can. If you check out the link I previously posted, there are
instructions for enabling multi-point pairing. Once two devices are paired,
they cannot both transmit audio at the same time, but when one isn't being
used, the other will be.

This might sound like a stupid question, but when you listen to music,
books or just a screen reader using this headset, can other people hear
what you're listening to when they are close; on the bus/train for example?

The question is not stupid. If you are in a very quiet environment, there
will be some sound leakage, but not much at all. On a bus or train, there
isn't really any sound leakage. I wear these in the office, and people
around me can't hear anything.

Please, where can I hear how the microphone sounds?

I demonstrated these on a podcast episode a few months ago. The easiest way
to get to the content is to check out the YouTube video, and to skip to
about 31 minutes into the video, as the first part of the video is
dedicated to the Samsung S21 Ultra. The link to the YouTube version is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFKo_RiUUcc



On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 4:08 PM Mária Orovčíková 
wrote:

> Hello again,
> thank you very much for your replies.
> Nimer, you said that the OpenComm headset support multipoint pairing,
> but can you switch between two devices without having to turn off/turn
> on the devices?
> This might sound like a stupid question, but when you listen to music,
> books or just a screen reader using this headset, can other people hear
> what you're listening to when they are close; on the bus/train for example?
> Please, where can I hear how the microphone sounds?
> Thanks.
> Maria
>
> Dňa 5. 11. 2021 o 22:57 Nimer Jaber napísal(a):
> > Hello Cristóbal,
> >
> > I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic
> > quality is quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet.
> > I've actually used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube
> > channel, which have turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for
> > phone calls and, again, they work quite well.
> >
> > As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press
> > both volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see
> >
> https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
>
> > for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that
> > I sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I
> > was using them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call
> > quality was a dealbreaker for me. Also, the fact that it has no
> > dedicated mute button also turned out to be a pain in the butt.
> >
> > Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the
> > concept, but if you are working from home and want to use them for
> > that, then you may be disappointed. As far as the band, it felt
> > like it had more give than the Aeropex which was nice.
> >
> > Cristóbal
> >
> > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
> > Behalf Of *Dave Clement
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so
> > than the band on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't
> > say for sure as I did not need to try to alter it.
> >
> > I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other
> > models. It is at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer
> > to your mouth. The boom arm also contains a secondd microphone
> > which is used to do some noise cancellation functions. This really
> > helps deliver a clear vocal input signal when you are in a loud or
> > noisy environment.
> >
> > Dave Clement
> >
> > Winnipeg MB
> >
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber 
> > wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite
> > flexible. That said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not
> > sure the Op

Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Mária Orovčíková

Hello again,
thank you very much for your replies.
Nimer, you said that the OpenComm headset support multipoint pairing, 
but can you switch between two devices without having to turn off/turn 
on the devices?
This might sound like a stupid question, but when you listen to music, 
books or just a screen reader using this headset, can other people hear 
what you're listening to when they are close; on the bus/train for example?

Please, where can I hear how the microphone sounds?
Thanks.
Maria

Dňa 5. 11. 2021 o 22:57 Nimer Jaber napísal(a):

Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic 
quality is quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. 
I've actually used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube 
channel, which have turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for 
phone calls and, again, they work quite well.


As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press 
both volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications. 
for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.


Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz 
 wrote:


I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that
I sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I
was using them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call
quality was a dealbreaker for me. Also, the fact that it has no
dedicated mute button also turned out to be a pain in the butt.

Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the
concept, but if you are working from home and want to use them for
that, then you may be disappointed. As far as the band, it felt
like it had more give than the Aeropex which was nice.

Cristóbal

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Dave Clement
*Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so
than the band on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't
say for sure as I did not need to try to alter it.

I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other
models. It is at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer
to your mouth. The boom arm also contains a secondd microphone
which is used to do some noise cancellation functions. This really
helps deliver a clear vocal input signal when you are in a loud or
noisy environment.

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber 
wrote:



Richard,

The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite
flexible. That said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not
sure the OpenComm will.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner
 wrote:

Nimer, or anyone else,

Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the
Aeropex?  My head is slightly too large to where the aeropex
comfortably.

It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in
touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*On Behalf Of *Nimer Jaber
*Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 8:50 AM
*To:* Viphone 
    *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hello Maria,

I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset,
simply because it is similar to their other headsets,
particularly the Aeropex, with an added boom mic, which
greatly enhances the experience for phone calls. Their last
few generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes
the OpenComm.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková
 wrote:

Hello list,
Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz
model is the
best.
Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can
have paired two
devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them
without
having to turn on/off one device or another?
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Dave Clement
Hi, 

I have to agree with the others here. I have had very good results with the 
Open Comm and those I called all said they could hear me fine. To confirm this, 
I called two people using both the Open Comm and my Trex Titanium and they both 
said it was much clearer with the Open Comm. 

At first, it did take me a bit to realize that the boom actually turns from 
back to front. When I first got them, the boom arm was turned back to lay along 
the side of the Open Comm. I had to rotate the boom arm to come around to the 
front and then all went well. I'm wondering if perhaps you tried them with the 
boom arm still turned back on itself. This would have put the microphone back 
behind your ear and would have produced a poor signal. Just a thought.  
Otherwise, perhaps you ended up with a defective set. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:


Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and had 
absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at me 
using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you are 
getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.

On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber  wrote:

> Hello Cristóbal,
> 
> I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
> quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually used 
> them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have turned 
> out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, they work 
> quite well.
> 
> As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
> volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
> https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
>  for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz  
> wrote:
>> I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
>> distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using them. I 
>> wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker for me. 
>> Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out to be a 
>> pain in the butt.
>> 
>> Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if 
>> you are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
>> disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
>> Aeropex which was nice.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
>> Clement
>> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the band 
>> on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I did 
>> not need to try to alter it. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It is 
>> at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The boom 
>> arm also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise 
>> cancellation functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input signal 
>> when you are in a loud or noisy environment. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dave Clement
>> 
>> Winnipeg MB
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexible. That 
>> said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not sure the OpenComm will.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nimer, or anyone else,
>> 
>> Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head is 
>> slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My Web site: h

Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Marco Curralejo
Definitely agree with Nemo on this 1. I have had a pair since January and 
had absolutely no dramas with them at all. Quite a few people have heard at 
me using them and bought them and had the same experience. Not sure why you 
are getting the low volume and a poor microphone quality when nobody else is.


On 6 November 2021 08:57:49 Nimer Jaber  wrote:

Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is 
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually 
used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have 
turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again, 
they work quite well.


As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both 
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see 
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications. 
for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.


Thanks.


On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I 
sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using 
them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker 
for me. Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out 
to be a pain in the butt.
Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if 
you are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.



Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement

Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hi,

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the 
band on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I 
did not need to try to alter it.


I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It 
is at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The 
boom arm also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise 
cancellation functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input 
signal when you are in a loud or noisy environment.


Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:

Richard,

The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexible. That 
said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not sure the OpenComm will.


On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner  wrote:
Nimer, or anyone else,
Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head 
is slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.


It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner


My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber

Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 8:50 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hello Maria,

I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because it 
is similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an added 
boom mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls. Their last 
few generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes the OpenComm.


Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková 
 wrote:

Hello list,
Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the
best.
Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two
devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them without
having to turn on/off one device or another?
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello Cristóbal,

I am surprised to hear you say this about the OpenComm. The mic quality is
quite decent, actually, and they are far from being quiet. I've actually
used them to record a number of podcasts on my YouTube channel, which have
turned out quite fine. I also use them daily for phone calls and, again,
they work quite well.

As for muting a call, you can certainly mute a call. You need to press both
volume buttons once, and a call will be muted. Please see
https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053359094-Commands-OpenComm#:~:text=Press%20and%20hold%20the%20volume%2B%20and%20volume%2D%20buttons%20simultaneously%20for,not%20work%20with%20all%20applications.
for the various commands for the OpenComm headset.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:38 PM Cristóbal Muñoz 
wrote:

> I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I
> sounded distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using
> them. I wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker
> for me. Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out
> to be a pain in the butt.
>
> Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if
> you are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be
> disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the
> Aeropex which was nice.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Dave Clement
> *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the
> band on my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I
> did not need to try to alter it.
>
>
>
> I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It
> is at the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The
> boom arm also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise
> cancellation functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input
> signal when you are in a loud or noisy environment.
>
>
>
> Dave Clement
>
> Winnipeg MB
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexible. That
> said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not sure the OpenComm will.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> Nimer, or anyone else,
>
> Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head
> is slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.
>
>
>
> It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.” – Jane Wagner
>
>
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 8:50 AM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question
>
>
>
> Hello Maria,
>
>
>
> I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because
> it is similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an
> added boom mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls.
> Their last few generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes
> the OpenComm.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková <
> maria.orovcik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
> Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the
> best.
> Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two
> devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them without
> having to turn on/off one device or another?
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
>
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RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
I ended up returning mine as I got feedback from a few people that I sounded 
distant and in general had a hard time hearing me when I was using them. I 
wanted to use them for work, so poor call quality was a dealbreaker for me. 
Also, the fact that it has no dedicated mute button also turned out to be a 
pain in the butt.

Hopefully they’ll improve on future versions as I like the concept, but if you 
are working from home and want to use them for that, then you may be 
disappointed. As far as the band, it felt like it had more give than the 
Aeropex which was nice.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hi, 

 

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the band on 
my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I did not 
need to try to alter it. 

 

I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It is at 
the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The boom arm 
also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise cancellation 
functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input signal when you are in 
a loud or noisy environment. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Richard,

 

The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexible. That 
said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not sure the OpenComm will.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Nimer, or anyone else,

Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head is 
slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.

 

It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 8:50 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

 

Hello Maria,

 

I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because it is 
similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an added boom 
mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls. Their last few 
generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes the OpenComm.

 

Thanks.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello list,
Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the 
best.
Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two 
devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them without 
having to turn on/off one device or another?
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Dave Clement
Hi, 

I find the Open Comm head band to be very comfortable, more so than the band on 
my Trex Titanium. Just how flexible it is I can't say for sure as I did not 
need to try to alter it. 

I think the microphone does deliver a better result than other models. It is at 
the end of a pivoting boom arm and thus is closer to your mouth. The boom arm 
also contains a secondd microphone which is used to do some noise cancellation 
functions. This really helps deliver a clear vocal input signal when you are in 
a loud or noisy environment. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 5, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:


Richard,

The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexible. That 
said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not sure the OpenComm will.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner  wrote:
> Nimer, or anyone else,
> 
> Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head is 
> slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.
> 
>  
> 
> It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
>  
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
> Jaber
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> Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question
> 
>  
> 
> Hello Maria,
> 
>  
> 
> I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because it 
> is similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an added 
> boom mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls. Their last 
> few generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes the OpenComm.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the 
> best.
> Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two 
> devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them without 
> having to turn on/off one device or another?
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
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Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Nimer Jaber
Richard,

The Aeropex and the OpenComm are similar. The band is quite flexible. That
said, if the aeropex don’t work for you, I’m not sure the OpenComm will.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:00 Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Nimer, or anyone else,
>
> Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head
> is slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.
>
>
>
> It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it.” – Jane Wagner
>
>
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Friday, November 5, 2021 8:50 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: AfterShokz headset question
>
>
>
> Hello Maria,
>
>
>
> I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because
> it is similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an
> added boom mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls.
> Their last few generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes
> the OpenComm.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková <
> maria.orovcik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
> Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the
> best.
> Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two
> devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them without
> having to turn on/off one device or another?
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
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RE: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Richard Turner
Nimer, or anyone else,
Is the OpenComm headphones any more adjustable than the Aeropex?  My head is 
slightly too large to where the aeropex comfortably.

It sounds like the microphone is a huge improvement in these.





Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 8:50 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: AfterShokz headset question

Hello Maria,

I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because it is 
similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an added boom 
mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls. Their last few 
generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes the OpenComm.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková 
mailto:maria.orovcik...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list,
Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the
best.
Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two
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Thank you for your help in advance.
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Re: AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello Maria,

I am personally a fan of the Aftershokz OpenComm headset, simply because it
is similar to their other headsets, particularly the Aeropex, with an added
boom mic, which greatly enhances the experience for phone calls. Their last
few generations have included multi-pairing, and this includes the OpenComm.

Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:01 AM Mária Orovčíková 
wrote:

> Hello list,
> Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the
> best.
> Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two
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> Thank you for your help in advance.
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AfterShokz headset question

2021-11-05 Thread Mária Orovčíková

Hello list,
Please, I would like to hear your opinion which AfterShokz model is the 
best.
Does any model have multipoint function, so that I can have paired two 
devices simultaneously and seamless switching between them without 
having to turn on/off one device or another?

Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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Re: AfterShokz Aeropex headphones

2021-03-10 Thread Devin Prater
For a full list of controls, see the guides at:


https://help.aftershokz.com/hc/en-us/sections/360004978914-Aeropex

Aditionally, the multi-device pairing works on the Aeropex as well. I
believe you hold down the multi-function button and the volume down
button while in pairing mode to turn it on or off. It's a pretty great
pair of headphones, and don't throw away your earplugs like I did! If
you turn on the Bass Boost mode, it sounds even better!


On 3/10/21 11:05 AM, blindfait...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hello,
>
>  
>
> I have just received a new pair of the AfterShokz Aeropex bone
> conducting headphones and I can’t seem to get them to turn on. I have
> had them charging for about an hour now and I just assumed that they
> would have enough battery by now to power on. Is there anyone on the
> list who has this pair of headphones and if so, can you let me know
> how you first power them up? There are only 2 buttons on these
> headphones that I can tell, a volume rocker and what I believe is the
> power button on the left side.
>
>  
>
> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
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RE: AfterShokz Aeropex headphones

2021-03-10 Thread blindfaith38
Thank you so much for this. I just assumed that the power button was the button 
the right ear piece but you know what they say about assuming. They are working 
perfectly now.

 

Scott

 

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I have seen them.

I thought the buttons were on the right, but in any case, I think you hold the 
farthest back button in for a few seconds and it should make a chime sound and 
speak the battery level and say pairing.

Or, hold in the volume button in the middle for several seconds.

 

I can’t quite remember.

 

 

 

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Subject: AfterShokz Aeropex headphones

 

Hello,

 

I have just received a new pair of the AfterShokz Aeropex bone conducting 
headphones and I can’t seem to get them to turn on. I have had them charging 
for about an hour now and I just assumed that they would have enough battery by 
now to power on. Is there anyone on the list who has this pair of headphones 
and if so, can you let me know how you first power them up? There are only 2 
buttons on these headphones that I can tell, a volume rocker and what I believe 
is the power button on the left side.

 

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank You,

 

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Re: AfterShokz Aeropex headphones

2021-03-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

You actually have two buttons on the right, a volume up and down. The
volume up has a slight bump. You need to hold this button down for a few
seconds until the headset begins to speak. The one on the left side is for
answer/end calls.

Thanks.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM  wrote:

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>
>
>
> I have just received a new pair of the AfterShokz Aeropex bone conducting
> headphones and I can’t seem to get them to turn on. I have had them
> charging for about an hour now and I just assumed that they would have
> enough battery by now to power on. Is there anyone on the list who has this
> pair of headphones and if so, can you let me know how you first power them
> up? There are only 2 buttons on these headphones that I can tell, a volume
> rocker and what I believe is the power button on the left side.
>
>
>
> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
>
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RE: AfterShokz Aeropex headphones

2021-03-10 Thread Richard Turner
I have seen them.
I thought the buttons were on the right, but in any case, I think you hold the 
farthest back button in for a few seconds and it should make a chime sound and 
speak the battery level and say pairing.
Or, hold in the volume button in the middle for several seconds.

I can't quite remember.



Richard

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Hello,

I have just received a new pair of the AfterShokz Aeropex bone conducting 
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for about an hour now and I just assumed that they would have enough battery by 
now to power on. Is there anyone on the list who has this pair of headphones 
and if so, can you let me know how you first power them up? There are only 2 
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AfterShokz Aeropex headphones

2021-03-10 Thread blindfaith38
Hello,

 

I have just received a new pair of the AfterShokz Aeropex bone conducting
headphones and I can't seem to get them to turn on. I have had them charging
for about an hour now and I just assumed that they would have enough battery
by now to power on. Is there anyone on the list who has this pair of
headphones and if so, can you let me know how you first power them up? There
are only 2 buttons on these headphones that I can tell, a volume rocker and
what I believe is the power button on the left side.

 

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank You,

 

Scott Rumery

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Re: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

2021-01-11 Thread Robin

this is True, as I  usually get About 8Hours on My BoseFrames Tempo
At 09:14 AM 1/11/2021, you wrote:

I’ve pasted the previous thread below, but as 
the conversation has moved over to talking about Bose, started a new thread.


The Bose site says the Tempos get 8 hours of active use.



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Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



I was originally very interested in the Bose 
Tempos but held back due to fear that they just 
wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day 
use like making and receiving several phone 
calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but 
running out of battery during the day would be a 
deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for several hours a day.




What has been your experience in terms of 
battery life? I'd be interested in anyone else's 
experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.
















Warmest regards



Rick Alfaro



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I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair 
as well, but i like the tempo pair better. If 
anyone is interested in them, let me know.




Jenn



Jenn and Kumi



> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin 
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>

> JustWonderin':

> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this?

> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

>

> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide

> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow 
its Users to Hear TheirEnvironment & Listen to 
TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:


>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always 
give you the best price.  i bought mine from 
the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
especially on models that are not necessarily 
the latest, but are completely functional.


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>> To: <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>>

>>

>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys 
retailing the after shockz but amazon is 
probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.


>>

>> Music,

>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the

>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've

>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even

>> better again for music

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: 
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>> Of Richard Turner

>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am

>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>>

>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

>>

>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.

>> They are primarily designed for people doing 
things outdoors so they can hear their surroundings.


>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and 
other outdoor activities where being aware of your surroundings is important.


>> After they were out for a while, they were 
made aware that they can also help visually 
impaired people stay safe when walking outdoo

RE: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

2021-01-11 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah they are the first to be released 

The tenor are a better fit but still I could suggest some changes for them,
 But again if people are wanting to check them out,
I highly recommend trying the different models out before you buy.

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Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:48 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AW: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

I have the Bose frames alto and absolutely like their sound. I wouldn't 
recommend them though, as the glasses don't fit very well and look very 
cheapish. Battery life could be better as well. So I guess the frames tempo 
will be a choice for me one day.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von 
Richard Turner
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Januar 2021 18:14
An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

I’ve pasted the previous thread below, but as the conversation has moved over 
to talking about Bose, started a new thread.

The Bose site says the Tempos get 8 hours of active use.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com <mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

 

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

 

Jenn

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:

> 

> JustWonderin':

> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 

> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

> 

> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 

> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:

>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.

>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a 
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a> 

>> tguys.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2bda49e285d6486caab108d8b648ee67%7

>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459771637482326%7CUnkn

>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw

>> iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WnjK4BP61lewQ5GHOnqvgQs9469q0HMBqe5Q

>> pZV7zCY%3D&reserved=0

>> 

>> Andy

>> 

>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

>> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >

>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> 

>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.

>> 

>> Music,

>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 

>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 

>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 

>> better again for music

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 

>> Of Richard Turner

>

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-11 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Tempo have an 8 hour battery life,
Tenor have a 5 hour battery life.

As for size,
No real size difference but the shape is different,
The tempo wrap around the face / eyes and have a longer arm which wraps back 
further around the head so they are more secure on your face while you wear 
them if exercising / running / cycling etc.

And the tenors are more straight across the face  with a slight bend in them to 
cover the eye,

Really it comes down to 
Tempo is a sportie model,
Tenor is a fashion accessorie 




 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 4:57 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

What is the difference in battery life and are the Tenors smaller or larger 
than the Tempo.
Are the microphones good?
Thanks, Marie

-Original Message-
From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Yeah I skipped over the alto,
And got the tenor and the tempo and I do love them.

I've just walked home from own listening to Tool, Most people would say it's 
careless but hey so long as I'm able to hear traffic I'm ok.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 1:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this?
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
>
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, 
> you
> wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  
>> i bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
>> especially on models that are not necessarily the latest, but are 
>> completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ----- Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but 
>> amazon is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>>
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>>
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they 
>> can hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities 
>> where being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can 
>> also help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>>
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 
>> hours of battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk 
>> time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them 
>> for a refund if they don't work for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, 
>> are there several different models?  How are they in terms

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-11 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah don't have those issues but the only thing that hasn't worked for me is 
Hey siri unless I hold the button on the phone or the phone to my face,

 But I do get a couple of phone calls and playing media out of the frames in a 
day with a lot to remain.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2021 4:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.







Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
> 
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>> 
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>> 
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>> 
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
>> refund if they don't work for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
>> several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
>> music streams, stuff like that?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-11 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Richard,

What do you mean they don’t fit you? You must have a big fat head. LOL  🤣 Just 
teasing.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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AW: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

2021-01-11 Thread Alexandra
I have the Bose frames alto and absolutely like their sound. I wouldn't 
recommend them though, as the glasses don't fit very well and look very 
cheapish. Battery life could be better as well. So I guess the frames tempo 
will be a choice for me one day.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von 
Richard Turner
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Januar 2021 18:14
An: viphone@googlegroups.com
Betreff: Bose earphones,, was about Aftershokz

I’ve pasted the previous thread below, but as the conversation has moved over 
to talking about Bose, started a new thread.

The Bose site says the Tempos get 8 hours of active use.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com <mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

 

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

 

Jenn

 

Jenn and Kumi

 

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:

> 

> JustWonderin':

> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 

> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

> 

> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 

> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:

>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.

>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a 
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a> 

>> tguys.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2bda49e285d6486caab108d8b648ee67%7

>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459771637482326%7CUnkn

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>> pZV7zCY%3D&reserved=0

>> 

>> Andy

>> 

>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

>> mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> >

>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> 

>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.

>> 

>> Music,

>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 

>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 

>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 

>> better again for music

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf 

>> Of Richard Turner

>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

>> 

>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

>> 

>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.

>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>>

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-11 Thread Marie N.
What is the difference in battery life and are the Tenors smaller or larger 
than the Tempo.

Are the microphones good?
Thanks, Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Yeah I skipped over the alto,
And got the tenor and the tempo and I do love them.

I've just walked home from own listening to Tool,
Most people would say it's careless but hey so long as I'm able to hear 
traffic I'm ok.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer

Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 1:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the 
tempo pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:

JustWonderin':
Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this?
MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide
QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you 
wrote:
Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially 
on models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely 
functional.

www.atguys.com

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but 
amazon is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.


Music,
I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the
older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've
heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even
better again for music

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
hear their surroundings.
They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
being aware of your surroundings is important.
After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.


The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for 
a refund if they don't work for you.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are 
there several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on 
line music streams, stuff like that?


Cheers,

Jed


On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don't fit.
Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all
the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly
not that good.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroup

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-11 Thread rick.alfaro
I was originally very interested in the Bose Tempos but held back due to fear 
that they just wouldn't last a whole day of normal every day use like making 
and receiving several phone calls, occasional streaming, and frequent Siri 
usage. I don't mind recharging every night but running out of battery during 
the day would be a deal breaker for me. I wear sun glasses every day for 
several hours a day.

What has been your experience in terms of battery life? I'd be interested in 
anyone else's experience regarding the Bose Tempo Frames.







Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
> 
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>> 
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>> 
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>> 
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
>> refund if they don't work for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
>> several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
>> music streams, stuff like that?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
>>> not that good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a h

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
No actually I can't say which one I like better as thee sound  is pretty much 
identical and I don't have them on for long enough to worry about the battery 
life dying on me.

So each one has it's moments,
Such as if it's raining or I'm out walking I'll use the tempo's if it's sunny 
I'll go with the tenors.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 4:02 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

of course, You prefer the Tempo over the Alto, as the BatteryLife is 
VastlyDifferent HaHaHa At 04:44 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like 
>the tempo pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.
>
>Jenn
>
>Jenn and Kumi
>
> > On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> >
> > JustWonderin':
> > Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible
> solution for this? MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames 
> Tempo a  Try
> >
> > Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio
> SunGlasses that provide QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow 
> its Users to Hear TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too
> > At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
> >> Amazon retails them, but they don't always
> give you the best price.  i bought mine from the AT Guys.  They 
> sometimes offer discounts, especially on models that are not 
> necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
> >> www.atguys.com
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> - Original Message - From: "Simon A
> Fogarty" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm sure there are a lot of companys
> retailing the after shockz but amazon is probably one of the better 
> ones if you are in the States.
> >>
> >> Music,
> >> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
> >> older after shocks weren't
> great for music but the aeropex are I've heard are ok, but then the 
> bose frames tenor and tempo are even better again for music
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> >> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
> >>
> >> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
> >>
> >> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
> >> They are primarily designed for people doing
> things outdoors so they can hear their surroundings.
> >> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and
> other outdoor activities where being aware of your surroundings is important.
> >> After they were out for a while, they were
> made aware that they can also help visually impaired people stay safe 
> when walking outdoors.
> >>
> >> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most
> recent model with 8 hours of battery life, but someone just mentioned 
> one with 16 hours of talk time.
> >> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you
> have time to return them for a refund if they don't work for you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to
> allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
> >>
> >>
> >> My web site, www.turner42.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-----
> >> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
> >> Barton
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
> >>
> >> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz,
> where do you get them, are there several different models?  How are 
> they in terms of listening to on line music streams, stuff like that?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Jed
> >>
> >>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> >>> Thanks for all the feedback.
> >>> As I said, they don't fit.
> >>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since 
> >>> all the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are 
> >>> clearly not that good.
> >>>
&g

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Robin
of course, You prefer the Tempo over the Alto, as 
the BatteryLife is VastlyDifferent HaHaHa

At 04:44 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair 
as well, but i like the tempo pair better. If 
anyone is interested in them, let me know.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible 
solution for this? MyRecommendation would be to 
give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

>
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio 
SunGlasses that provide QualitySound WithOut 
IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too

> At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always 
give you the best price.  i bought mine from 
the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
especially on models that are not necessarily 
the latest, but are completely functional.

>> www.atguys.com
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A 
Fogarty" 

>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>>
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys 
retailing the after shockz but amazon is 
probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.

>>
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music,
>> Seemingly the older after shocks weren't 
great for music but the aeropex are I've heard 
are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and 
tempo are even better again for music

>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner

>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>>
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing 
things outdoors so they can hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and 
other outdoor activities where being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were 
made aware that they can also help visually 
impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.

>>
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most 
recent model with 8 hours of battery life, but 
someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you 
have time to return them for a refund if they don't work for you.

>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to 
allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, 
where do you get them, are there several 
different models?  How are they in terms of 
listening to on line music streams, stuff like that?

>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jed
>>
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly
>>> not that good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>>> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7
>>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770236%7CUnkno
>>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
>>> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j
>>> 
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om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa2

>>> 61d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
>>> C637459052847770236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
>>> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&s

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I skipped over the alto,
And got the tenor and the tempo and I do love them.

I've just walked home from own listening to Tool, 
Most people would say it's careless but hey so long as I'm able to hear traffic 
I'm ok.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 1:44 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? 
> MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
> 
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide 
> QualitySound WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
> TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>> 
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>> older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>> heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
>> better again for music
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>> 
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>> 
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
>> refund if they don't work for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed 
>> Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
>> several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
>> music streams, stuff like that?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
>>> not that good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> tu
>>> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3
>>> %7 
>>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770236%7CUnk
>>> no 
>>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Jennie Facer
I love my Bose Frames tempo. I have an alto pair as well, but i like the tempo 
pair better. If anyone is interested in them, let me know.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> JustWonderin':
> Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? MyRecommendation 
> would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try
> 
> Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide QualitySound 
> WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear TheirEnvironment & Listen to 
> TheirDevice too
> At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>> Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>> bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
>> models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.
>> www.atguys.com
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
>> is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>> 
>> Music,
>> I've heard different comments on listening to music,
>> Seemingly the older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are 
>> I've heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even better 
>> again for music
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>> 
>> They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>> They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
>> hear their surroundings.
>> They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
>> being aware of your surroundings is important.
>> After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
>> help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>> 
>> The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
>> battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
>> Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
>> refund if they don't work for you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>> 
>> So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
>> several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
>> music streams, stuff like that?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
>> 
>>> On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>> As I said, they don't fit.
>>> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all
>>> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly
>>> not that good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>>> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7
>>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770236%7CUnkno
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>>> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j
>>> 2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c> 
>>> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa2
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>>> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haW

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah and they are bloody great sound quality 

And the battery life is ok so long as you're not needing to be on them all day.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 12:32 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

JustWonderin':
Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution for this? MyRecommendation 
would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try

Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses that provide QualitySound 
WithOut IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear TheirEnvironment & Listen to 
TheirDevice too At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
>Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
>bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
>especially on models that are not necessarily the latest, but are 
>completely functional.
>www.atguys.com
>
>Andy
>
>- Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>
>To: 
>Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
>Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
>
>I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but 
>amazon is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.
>
>Music,
>I've heard different comments on listening to music, Seemingly the 
>older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are I've 
>heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even better 
>again for music
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
>Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.
>
>They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
>They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they 
>can hear their surroundings.
>They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities 
>where being aware of your surroundings is important.
>After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can 
>also help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.
>
>The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours 
>of battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk 
>time.
>Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them 
>for a refund if they don't work for you.
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
>So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are 
>there several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to 
>on line music streams, stuff like that?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jed
>
>On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>Thanks for all the feedback.
>>As I said, they don't fit.
>>Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
>>the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
>>not that good.
>>
>>
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>>object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>>My web site,
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>>rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7
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>>FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>Cristóbal Muñoz
>>Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Robin

JustWonderin':
Would Bose's BoseFrames be a  Possible solution 
for this? MyRecommendation would be to give Bose's BoseFrames Tempo a  Try


Bose's  BoseFrames Tempo is an Audio SunGlasses 
that provide QualitySound WithOut 
IN-the-Ear  that Allow its Users to Hear 
TheirEnvironment & Listen to TheirDevice too

At 03:17 PM 1/10/2021, you wrote:
Amazon retails them, but they don't always give 
you the best price.  i bought mine from the AT 
Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, 
especially on models that are not necessarily 
the latest, but are completely functional.

www.atguys.com

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing 
the after shockz but amazon is probably one of 
the better ones if you are in the States.


Music,
I've heard different comments on listening to music,
Seemingly the older after shocks weren't great 
for music but the aeropex are I've heard are ok, 
but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even better again for music


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
They are primarily designed for people doing 
things outdoors so they can hear their surroundings.
They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other 
outdoor activities where being aware of your surroundings is important.
After they were out for a while, they were made 
aware that they can also help visually impaired 
people stay safe when walking outdoors.


The last I heard the Aeropex were their most 
recent model with 8 hours of battery life, but 
someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you 
have time to return them for a refund if they don't work for you.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow 
any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.



My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, 
where do you get them, are there several 
different models?  How are they in terms of 
listening to on line music streams, stuff like that?


Cheers,

Jed

On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don't fit.
Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all
the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly
not that good.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7
C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770236%7CUnkno
wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j
2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c> 
om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa2

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C637459052847770236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
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FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more
comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all,
a better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better 
than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez.

I've come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the
Aftershokz line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The
Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone
conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity sound or
anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for
calls is at best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in
frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. 
These are the headphones I use most over all.


Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@g

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Andy Baracco
Amazon retails them, but they don't always give you the best price.  i 
bought mine from the AT Guys.  They sometimes offer discounts, especially on 
models that are not necessarily the latest, but are completely functional.

www.atguys.com

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon 
is probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.


Music,
I've heard different comments on listening to music,
Seemingly the older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex 
are I've heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even 
better again for music


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can 
hear their surroundings.
They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where 
being aware of your surroundings is important.
After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also 
help visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.


The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
refund if they don't work for you.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line 
music streams, stuff like that?


Cheers,

Jed

On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don't fit.
Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all
the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly
not that good.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7
C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770236%7CUnkno
wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j
2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa2
61d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
C637459052847770236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2
FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more
comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all,
a better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or 
Bluez.

I've come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the
Aftershokz line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The
Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone
conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity sound or
anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for
calls is at best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in
frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I 
use most over all.


Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
Of Marie N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just got
my Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them
after being so disappointed 

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Everyone is different,
There will be some that work and some that don’t.

The issue really sits in not being able to try them out before you buy them.

If you can try before you buy then you can get a better idea of how they fit 
and how they sound.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:11 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hi kay,
Complain all you wish.  I don’t like them because they don’t fit on my head and 
the sound quality is truly only best for speech, and yes, you can hear them if 
you are close to a person wearing them.
It is tricky getting them on the bone in front of your ear.  Maybe if I didn’t 
have sideburns and not quite as fat of a head, they’d be better.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

HI Richard,
This is not a complaint, just the facts.  I have never gotten any kind of the 
Aftershokz to work for me.  I have had people show me the best ways to wear 
them and still not good.  If I put the pads right over my ears, then no 
problem.  But that is not how they are supposed to work.  I just laugh and tell 
people that I am not bone headed enough.  Then you have people that say there 
is no sound loss with them but yet I can stand next to them when they are 
wearing them and hear what they are listening to.  Just for me, and in my 
opinion they don't work.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

Accept the presence of thorns, but let the rose inspire you.
Steve Pavlina - Self-Help Author - Speaker

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don’t fit.
Thanks, I won’t be getting any bone conduction headphones since all the reviews 
point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that good.
Richard
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ceee27dcfe1c041ce081908d8b5a27136%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459056582515060%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7DUQxy6mZlLZjB0VC8XIGUWpfz7EhMJP7opNmlOhcxc%3D&reserved=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
I’ve got a 7” 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more comfortable 
than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a better fit. Not a 
perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. I’ve come across 
other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz line seems to be the 
gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don’t seem to vibrate as much as the 
Trekz, but being bone conduction, it’s not like you should expect high fidelity 
sound or anything. It’s just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for calls is at 
best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in frustration too. But, 
tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use most over all.
Cristóbal
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
Don’t know the difference because I don’t have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I'm sure there are a lot of companys retailing the after shockz but amazon is 
probably one of the better ones if you are in the States.

Music,
I've heard different comments on listening to music,
 Seemingly the older after shocks weren't great for music but the aeropex are 
I've heard are ok, but then the bose frames tenor and tempo are even better 
again for music 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 9:00 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can hear 
their surroundings.
They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where being 
aware of your surroundings is important.
After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also help 
visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.

The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
refund if they don't work for you.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line music 
streams, stuff like that?

Cheers,

Jed

On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for all the feedback.
> As I said, they don't fit.
> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
> not that good.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa261d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459052847770236%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j
> 2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.c
> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1a0baa2
> 61d4442b65d4f08d8b5a192b3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
> C637459052847770236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jQ6zeaXNY8%2
> FDgzRXC5cJ8BDKU%2ByHZlhil7j2Pa4Pfvg%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more 
> comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, 
> a better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez.
> I've come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the 
> Aftershokz line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The 
> Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone 
> conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity sound or 
> anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
> boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for 
> calls is at best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in 
> frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use 
> most over all.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Marie N.
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just got 
> my Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them 
> after being so disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer 
> and more flexible, have much better sound and microphone and I love 
> th

RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Have you tried the bose frames

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 6:48 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Simon A Fogarty
My older brother who doesn’t have sight issues just purchased a pair of the 
newest after shockz headphones and he loves them when out in the garden or 
cycling / running

I myself purchased a set of bose tenor frames which I love and in my mind work 
better than the after shockz,

They have great sounds  for both voice including phone calls and or listening 
to voiceover from my phone and also music while I’m walking around the city or 
out in the quieter parts of town.

There is also the bose tempo frames as well which are more of a wrap around 
sports shades with a better battery life and an as good sound quality

The only problem really with the bose frames is the cost at twice the price of 
the after shockz
Although the NZ pricing is double what the price is in the usA.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 6:27 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.



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Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
It is certainly the case that the air does this.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 13:09 chalt...@outlook.com 
wrote:

> I don’t have this problem on my Trekz Titaniums.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:35 PM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so
> far as I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past
> couple of years or so.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM  wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
>
>
> I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio glasses
> to use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo Frames.
> They were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery life
> was dismal only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage.
>
>
>
> I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open
>
> Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm
> due to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a
> couple of issues.
>
>
>
>1. Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work
>although the button work fine for other functions.
>2. The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of
>battery saving logic.
>
> I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the
> AeroPex model?
>
>
>
> I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like
> forgetting and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well.
> Unfortunately not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really
> like the headset otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can
> do to get it working properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not
> responded to me regarding these issues.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
>
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and
> find them to be the best ones yet.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner <
> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those
> made by Aftershokz?
>
> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
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Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Andy Baracco
i have a friend who is a trucker, and uses a Blueparrot headset and his audio 
soulnd almost broadcast quality.
i was mainly referring to bluetooth ear buds.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nimer Jaber 
  To: Viphone 
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 1:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction


  I disagree, and believe that some bluetooth headphones sound better than 
others on a call. The Plantronics 5200 and prior generations sound pretty good. 
If you get a headset from blueparrot, you'll find that their microphones are 
great, and those tend to be used by truckers. I mean, call quality depends on 
your carrier and whether or not you are on an HD call, as well as on the phone 
in question, but some headsets are better than others to be sure.



  On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:49 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

I own several models of bluetooth headsets and ear buds, and i would say 
that your audio on a call sucks with all of them.  I think that the Aftershokz 
audio is as good or better than most, at least as far as how you sound to 
others on a call.

I have noticed an issue with the Aftershokz Trekz Air on Zoom calls, as 
folks tell me that my audio starts good but then drops out.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Viphone 
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction


  The only trouble is that the microphones on the Aftershokz is passable at 
best, not what I would call high quality, so sometimes, your speech may not be 
understood, but most of the time, it's fine.



  On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:42 AM  wrote:

What about Siri? Any trouble invoking Siri?











Warmest regards



Rick Alfaro



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:35 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction



Hello,



Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and 
so far as I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past 
couple of years or so.



On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM  wrote:

  Hello.



  I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio 
glasses to use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo 
Frames. They were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery 
life was dismal only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage. 



  I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open

  Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the 
OpenComm due to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but 
with a couple of issues.



1.. Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work 
although the button work fine for other functions. 
2.. The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of 
battery saving logic.
  I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with 
the AeroPex model? 



  I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like 
forgetting and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well. 
Unfortunately not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really like 
the headset otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can do to get 
it working properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not responded to me 
regarding these issues.







  Warmest regards



  Rick Alfaro



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Nimer Jaber
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



  Hello,



  I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the 
best in terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, 
and find them to be the best ones yet.



  Thanks.



  On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
 wrote:

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other 
than those made by Aftershokz?

    Aftershokz do not fit me.





Richard



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RE: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread chalt...@outlook.com
I don’t have this problem on my Trekz Titaniums.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

Hello,

Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so far as 
I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past couple of 
years or so.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM 
mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello.

I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio glasses to 
use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo Frames. They 
were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery life was dismal 
only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage.

I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open
Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm due 
to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a couple 
of issues.


  1.  Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work although the 
button work fine for other functions.
  2.  The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of battery 
saving logic.
I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the AeroPex 
model?

I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like forgetting 
and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well. Unfortunately 
not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really like the headset 
otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can do to get it working 
properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not responded to me regarding these 
issues.



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.


Richard

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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread chalt...@outlook.com
I’m not trying to talk you into the Aftershokz, but when I bought my Trekz 
Titaniums two or so years ago they had a few different options in sizes and 
styles. Maybe one of them will fit you.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don’t fit.
Thanks, I won’t be getting any bone conduction headphones since all the reviews 
point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that good.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I’ve got a 7” 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more comfortable 
than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a better fit. Not a 
perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. I’ve come across 
other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz line seems to be the 
gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don’t seem to vibrate as much as the 
Trekz, but being bone conduction, it’s not like you should expect high fidelity 
sound or anything. It’s just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for calls is at 
best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in frustration too. But, 
tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use most over all.

Cristóbal

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Don’t know the difference because I don’t have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.

From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hi Nimer,

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I can 
read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion standpoint.  
I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
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To: Viphone
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.


Richard

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Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
I disagree, and believe that some bluetooth headphones sound better than
others on a call. The Plantronics 5200 and prior generations sound pretty
good. If you get a headset from blueparrot, you'll find that their
microphones are great, and those tend to be used by truckers. I mean, call
quality depends on your carrier and whether or not you are on an HD call,
as well as on the phone in question, but some headsets are better than
others to be sure.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:49 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

> I own several models of bluetooth headsets and ear buds, and i would say
> that your audio on a call sucks with all of them.  I think that the
> Aftershokz audio is as good or better than most, at least as far as how you
> sound to others on a call.
>
> I have noticed an issue with the Aftershokz Trekz Air on Zoom calls, as
> folks tell me that my audio starts good but then drops out.
>
> Andy
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Nimer Jaber 
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction
>
> The only trouble is that the microphones on the Aftershokz is passable at
> best, not what I would call high quality, so sometimes, your speech may not
> be understood, but most of the time, it's fine.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:42 AM  wrote:
>
>> What about Siri? Any trouble invoking Siri?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Nimer Jaber
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:35 AM
>> *To:* Viphone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so
>> far as I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past
>> couple of years or so.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio
>> glasses to use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo
>> Frames. They were actually quite good and I would have kept them but
>> battery life was dismal only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day
>> of useage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open
>>
>> Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm
>> due to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a
>> couple of issues.
>>
>>
>>
>>1. Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work
>>although the button work fine for other functions.
>>2. The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of
>>    battery saving logic.
>>
>> I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the
>> AeroPex model?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like
>> forgetting and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well.
>> Unfortunately not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really
>> like the headset otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can
>> do to get it working properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not
>> responded to me regarding these issues.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Nimer Jaber
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
>> *To:* Viphone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best
>> in terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex,
>> and find them to be the best ones yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner <
>> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than
>> those made by Aftershokz?
>>
>> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>

Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Andy Baracco
I own several models of bluetooth headsets and ear buds, and i would say that 
your audio on a call sucks with all of them.  I think that the Aftershokz audio 
is as good or better than most, at least as far as how you sound to others on a 
call.

I have noticed an issue with the Aftershokz Trekz Air on Zoom calls, as folks 
tell me that my audio starts good but then drops out.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nimer Jaber 
  To: Viphone 
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction


  The only trouble is that the microphones on the Aftershokz is passable at 
best, not what I would call high quality, so sometimes, your speech may not be 
understood, but most of the time, it's fine.



  On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:42 AM  wrote:

What about Siri? Any trouble invoking Siri?











Warmest regards



Rick Alfaro



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:35 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction



Hello,



Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so 
far as I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past 
couple of years or so.



On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM  wrote:

  Hello.



  I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio 
glasses to use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo 
Frames. They were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery 
life was dismal only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage. 



  I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open

  Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm 
due to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a 
couple of issues.



1.. Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work 
although the button work fine for other functions.
2.. The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of 
battery saving logic.
  I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the 
AeroPex model? 



  I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like 
forgetting and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well. 
Unfortunately not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really like 
the headset otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can do to get 
it working properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not responded to me 
regarding these issues.







  Warmest regards



  Rick Alfaro



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



  Hello,



  I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best 
in terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and 
find them to be the best ones yet.



  Thanks.



  On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
 wrote:

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than 
those made by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.





Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, www.turner42.com







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Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
The only trouble is that the microphones on the Aftershokz is passable at
best, not what I would call high quality, so sometimes, your speech may not
be understood, but most of the time, it's fine.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:42 AM  wrote:

> What about Siri? Any trouble invoking Siri?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
>
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:35 AM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so
> far as I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past
> couple of years or so.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM  wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
>
>
> I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio glasses
> to use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo Frames.
> They were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery life
> was dismal only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage.
>
>
>
> I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open
>
> Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm
> due to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a
> couple of issues.
>
>
>
>1. Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work
>although the button work fine for other functions.
>2. The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of
>battery saving logic.
>
> I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the
> AeroPex model?
>
>
>
> I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like
> forgetting and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well.
> Unfortunately not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really
> like the headset otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can
> do to get it working properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not
> responded to me regarding these issues.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
>
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and
> find them to be the best ones yet.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner <
> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those
> made by Aftershokz?
>
> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Ann Byrne



Mystic Access sells the 
<https://www.mysticaccess.com/product/audio-tutorial-for-the-liwithpro-bn702-bone-conduction-headphones/>


LiWithPro BN702 Bone Conduction Headphones.  I 
know nothing about them, but the Mystic Access 
people have an actual phone number to speak with an actual human being.  (


716) 543-3323,





Thanks for all the feedback.

As I said, they don’t fit.

Thanks, I won’t be getting any bone conduction 
headphones since all the reviews point to 
Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that good.








Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow 
any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.






My web site, <http://www.turner42.com>www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



I’ve got a 7” 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex 
are way way more comfortable than previous 
models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a 
better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than 
the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. I’ve come across 
other bone conduction headsets online, but the 
Aftershokz line seems to be the gold standard in 
this space. The Aeropex don’t seem to vibrate as 
much as the Trekz, but being bone conduction, 
it’s not like you should expect high fidelity 
sound or anything. It’s just impossible with 
this technology. I use these bad boys all day 
throughout the day and for working out. 
Microphone for calls is at best adequate and 
dictation can be an exercise in frustration too. 
But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use most over all.




Cristóbal



From: 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com 
<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> 
On Behalf Of Marie N.

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



Don’t know the difference because I don’t have 
the Trekx and just got my Aeropix the day before 
yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after 
being so disappointed with the Titanium model, 
They are softer and more flexible, have much 
better sound and microphone and I love the 
magnetic charging cables included. I was 
considering trying the Bose Frames and realize 
they would have better sound but these will work 
quite well for me and over $100 less.




From: Mike B

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM

To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



Hi Nimer,



What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz 
and the Aeropex?  I know I can read about the 
differences but, I'm asking from a personal 
opinion standpoint.  I'm currently using the 
Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.





Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message -

From: Nimer Jaber

To: Viphone

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



Hello,



I've tried a number of different ones, but the 
Aftershokz were the best in terms of audio 
quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the 
Aeropex, and find them to be the best ones yet.




Thanks.



On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
<<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction 
headphones other than those made by Aftershokz?


Aftershokz do not fit me.





Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow 
any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.






My web site, 
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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Richard Turner
Hi kay,
Complain all you wish.  I don't like them because they don't fit on my head and 
the sound quality is truly only best for speech, and yes, you can hear them if 
you are close to a person wearing them.
It is tricky getting them on the bone in front of your ear.  Maybe if I didn't 
have sideburns and not quite as fat of a head, they'd be better.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

HI Richard,
This is not a complaint, just the facts.  I have never gotten any kind of the 
Aftershokz to work for me.  I have had people show me the best ways to wear 
them and still not good.  If I put the pads right over my ears, then no 
problem.  But that is not how they are supposed to work.  I just laugh and tell 
people that I am not bone headed enough.  Then you have people that say there 
is no sound loss with them but yet I can stand next to them when they are 
wearing them and hear what they are listening to.  Just for me, and in my 
opinion they don't work.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

Accept the presence of thorns, but let the rose inspire you.
Steve Pavlina - Self-Help Author - Speaker

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don't fit.
Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all the reviews 
point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that good.
Richard
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ceee27dcfe1c041ce081908d8b5a27136%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459056582515060%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7DUQxy6mZlLZjB0VC8XIGUWpfz7EhMJP7opNmlOhcxc%3D&reserved=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more comfortable 
than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a better fit. Not a 
perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. I've come across 
other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz line seems to be the 
gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the 
Trekz, but being bone conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity 
sound or anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for calls is at 
best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in frustration too. But, 
tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use most over all.
Cristóbal
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
Hi Nimer,
What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I can 
read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion standpoint.  
I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber
To: Viphone
Sent: Sunda

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Kay Malmquist
HI Richard,
This is not a complaint, just the facts.  I have never gotten any kind of 
the Aftershokz to work for me.  I have had people show me the best ways to 
wear them and still not good.  If I put the pads right over my ears, then no 
problem.  But that is not how they are supposed to work.  I just laugh and 
tell people that I am not bone headed enough.  Then you have people that say 
there is no sound loss with them but yet I can stand next to them when they 
are wearing them and hear what they are listening to.  Just for me, and in 
my opinion they don't work.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Accept the presence of thorns, but let the rose inspire you.
Steve Pavlina - Self-Help Author - Speaker


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 1:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


  Thanks for all the feedback.

  As I said, they don’t fit.

  Thanks, I won’t be getting any bone conduction headphones since all the 
reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that 
good.







  Richard



  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





  My web site, www.turner42.com







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



  I’ve got a 7” 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more 
comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a 
better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. 
I’ve come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz 
line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don’t seem to 
vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone conduction, it’s not like you 
should expect high fidelity sound or anything. It’s just impossible with 
this technology. I use these bad boys all day throughout the day and for 
working out. Microphone for calls is at best adequate and dictation can be 
an exercise in frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the 
headphones I use most over all.



  Cristóbal



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



  Don’t know the difference because I don’t have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being 
so disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, 
have much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging 
cables included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they 
would have better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 
less.



  From: Mike B

  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



  Hi Nimer,



  What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know 
I can read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion 
standpoint.  I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're 
more comfortable, sound differences.




  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Nimer Jaber

  To: Viphone

  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM

  Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction



  Hello,



  I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and 
find them to be the best ones yet.



  Thanks.



  On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
 wrote:

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than 
those made by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.





Richard



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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Richard Turner
Ther are several models and Amazon is the best resource.

They are not very good for music if you want a quality sound.
They are primarily designed for people doing things outdoors so they can hear 
their surroundings.
They are marketed to runners, joggers, and other outdoor activities where being 
aware of your surroundings is important.
After they were out for a while, they were made aware that they can also help 
visually impaired people stay safe when walking outdoors.

The last I heard the Aeropex were their most recent model with 8 hours of 
battery life, but someone just mentioned one with 16 hours of talk time.
Just be sure if you buy some to try out, you have time to return them for a 
refund if they don't work for you.



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-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are there 
several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to on line music 
streams, stuff like that?

Cheers,

Jed

On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for all the feedback.
> As I said, they don't fit.
> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all 
> the reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly 
> not that good.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more 
> comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, 
> a better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez.
> I've come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the 
> Aftershokz line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The 
> Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone 
> conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity sound or 
> anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
> boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for 
> calls is at best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in 
> frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use 
> most over all.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Marie N.
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just got 
> my Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them 
> after being so disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer 
> and more flexible, have much better sound and microphone and I love 
> the magnetic charging cables included. I was considering trying the 
> Bose Frames and realize they would have better sound but these will 
> work quite well for me and over $100 less.
>
> From: Mike B
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Hi Nimer,
>
> What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I 
> know I can read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal 
> opinion standpoint.  I

Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Jed Barton
So I've ehard a ton about these aftershokz, where do you get them, are
there several different models?  How are they in terms of listening to
on line music streams, stuff like that?

Cheers,

Jed

On 1/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for all the feedback.
> As I said, they don't fit.
> Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all the
> reviews point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that
> good.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more
> comfortable than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a
> better fit. Not a perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez.
> I've come across other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz
> line seems to be the gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don't seem to
> vibrate as much as the Trekz, but being bone conduction, it's not like you
> should expect high fidelity sound or anything. It's just impossible with
> this technology. I use these bad boys all day throughout the day and for
> working out. Microphone for calls is at best adequate and dictation can be
> an exercise in frustration too. But, tradeoffs and all that. These are the
> headphones I use most over all.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Marie N.
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just got my
> Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being
> so disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible,
> have much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging
> cables included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they
> would have better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100
> less.
>
> From: Mike B
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Hi Nimer,
>
> What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I
> can read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion
> standpoint.  I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're
> more comfortable, sound differences.
>
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: Nimer Jaber
> To: Viphone
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Hello,
>
> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and
> find them to be the best ones yet.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those
> made by Aftershokz?
> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks for all the feedback.
As I said, they don't fit.
Thanks, I won't be getting any bone conduction headphones since all the reviews 
point to Aftershokz and the secondary models are clearly not that good.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

I've got a 7" 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more comfortable 
than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a better fit. Not a 
perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. I've come across 
other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz line seems to be the 
gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don't seem to vibrate as much as the 
Trekz, but being bone conduction, it's not like you should expect high fidelity 
sound or anything. It's just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for calls is at 
best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in frustration too. But, 
tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use most over all.

Cristóbal

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Don't know the difference because I don't have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.

From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hi Nimer,

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I can 
read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion standpoint.  
I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber
To: Viphone
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.


Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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RE: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread rick.alfaro
What about Siri? Any trouble invoking Siri?

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:35 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

 

Hello,

 

Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so far as 
I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past couple of 
years or so.

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello.

 

I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio glasses to 
use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo Frames. They 
were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery life was dismal 
only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage. 

 

I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open

Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm due 
to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a couple 
of issues.

 

1.  Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work although 
the button work fine for other functions.
2.  The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of battery 
saving logic.

I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the AeroPex 
model? 

 

I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like forgetting 
and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well. Unfortunately 
not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really like the headset 
otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can do to get it working 
properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not responded to me regarding these 
issues.

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Hello,

 

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

 

Thanks.

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.

 

 

Richard

 

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realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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RE: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
I’ve got a 7” 3/8 noggin and for me, the Aeropex are way way more comfortable 
than previous models. Lighter, more flexible and over all, a better fit. Not a 
perfect fit, but better than the Trekz, Titanium or Bluez. I’ve come across 
other bone conduction headsets online, but the Aftershokz line seems to be the 
gold standard in this space. The Aeropex don’t seem to vibrate as much as the 
Trekz, but being bone conduction, it’s not like you should expect high fidelity 
sound or anything. It’s just impossible with this technology. I use these bad 
boys all day throughout the day and for working out. Microphone for calls is at 
best adequate and dictation can be an exercise in frustration too. But, 
tradeoffs and all that. These are the headphones I use most over all.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Don’t know the difference because I don’t have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.

 

From: Mike B 

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Hi Nimer,

 

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I can 
read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion standpoint.  
I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.

 


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Nimer Jaber 

To: Viphone 

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Hello,

 

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

 

Thanks.

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.

 

 

Richard

 

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realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Marie N.
Don’t know the difference because I don’t have the Trekx and just got my 
Aeropix the day before yesterday. I am quite pleased with them after being so 
disappointed with the Titanium model, They are softer and more flexible, have 
much better sound and microphone and I love the magnetic charging cables 
included. I was considering trying the Bose Frames and realize they would have 
better sound but these will work quite well for me and over $100 less.

From: Mike B 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

Hi Nimer,

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I can 
read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion standpoint.  
I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're more 
comfortable, sound differences.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


Hello,


I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.


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made by Aftershokz?

  Aftershokz do not fit me.






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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Janet Bell

Hi guys please can someone tell me what are arropes please?

On 10/01/2021 17:52, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:

Same here! Arropes are very light and flexible too.
Harry


On 10 Jan 2021, at 17:48, Nimer Jaber  wrote:


Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the 
best in terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the 
Aeropex, and find them to be the best ones yet.


Thanks.

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Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other
    than those made by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.

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Re: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

Yes, the first sound is cut off, unfortunately, with the Aeropex, and so
far as I know, this has been the case for Aftershokz products for the past
couple of years or so.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:32 AM  wrote:

> Hello.
>
>
>
> I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio glasses
> to use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo Frames.
> They were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery life
> was dismal only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage.
>
>
>
> I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open
>
> Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm
> due to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a
> couple of issues.
>
>
>
>1. Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work
>although the button work fine for other functions.
>2. The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of
>battery saving logic.
>
> I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the
> AeroPex model?
>
>
>
> I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like
> forgetting and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well.
> Unfortunately not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really
> like the headset otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can
> do to get it working properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not
> responded to me regarding these issues.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
>
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and
> find them to be the best ones yet.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner <
> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those
> made by Aftershokz?
>
> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
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RE: Alternatives to AfterShokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread rick.alfaro
Hello.

 

I’ve recently been on the hunt for either bone conduction or audio glasses to 
use with my iPhone 12 pro and VO. I just returned a pair of Echo Frames. They 
were actually quite good and I would have kept them but battery life was dismal 
only going for a few hours, nowhere near a full day of useage. 

 

I just received and have been using the Aftershokz Open

Comm. Although they have several different models now, I got the OpenComm due 
to their longer talk time of 16 hours. They are pretty good but with a couple 
of issues.

 

1.  Using the multi function button to involk siri doesn’t work although 
the button work fine for other functions.
2.  The first part of a word is often cut off, maybe some sort of battery 
saving logic.

I’m wondering if you have run into either one of these issues with the AeroPex 
model? 

 

I’d appreciate any thoughts on this. I’ve already done things like forgetting 
and re-pairing the headset and also have done a reset as well. Unfortunately 
not working with Siri is a deal breaker for me but I really like the headset 
otherwise so am terying to see if there is anything I can do to get it working 
properly. Aftershokz support thus far has not responded to me regarding these 
issues.

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:48 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

 

Hello,

 

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and find 
them to be the best ones yet.

 

Thanks.

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?

Aftershokz do not fit me.

 

 

Richard

 

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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
The Trekz Air were a bit bigger and a bit less comfortable for longer
periods. Also, the audio just wasn't as clear and lacked a bit more base.
The aeropex are great at noise isolation, they vibrate less, are lighter on
the head, the band is narrow and flexible, and I am a fan of the magnetic
charger cables rather than micro USB.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:24 AM Mike B  wrote:

> Hi Nimer,
>
> What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know
> I can read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion
> standpoint.  I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if
> they're more comfortable, sound differences.
>
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Nimer Jaber 
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction
>
> Hello,
>
> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and
> find them to be the best ones yet.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner <
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>> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than
>> those made by Aftershokz?
>>
>> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Mike B
Hi Nimer,

What are the diffeerences between the Aero Trekz and the Aeropex?  I know I 
can read about the differences but, I'm asking from a personal opinion 
standpoint.  I'm currently using the Trekz model and just curious if they're 
more comfortable, sound differences.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Nimer Jaber
To: Viphone
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction


Hello,


I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and 
find them to be the best ones yet.


Thanks.



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  Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those 
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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Same here! Arropes are very light and flexible too. 
Harry

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> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and 
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> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner  
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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in
terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and
find them to be the best ones yet.

Thanks.

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Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

2021-01-10 Thread Richard Turner
Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those made 
by Aftershokz?
Aftershokz do not fit me.


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Re: New Aftershokz Aeropex bone conduction headset thoughts

2019-08-03 Thread Nimer Jaber
Hello,

I have them as well, but am using them on Android. I also notice the
behavior that you describe with them having to wake up because they
hybernate or something. I think the sound quality sounds a bit better to me
on Android, but I don't know how the mic quality is, except that it seems a
bit quieter to people I talk to. I don't find them to be more
comfortable... they tend to dig into the inside of my ear and give me more
ear fatigue than the older ones. I use mine all day. I also don't think the
battery will last as long because at the end of the day, the battery is at
a lower power level than my air would be. I am not hugely impressed with
these either, although I do like the magnetic charging as long as you don't
lose the two cords they give you.

Thanks.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 10:58 AM Cristóbal Muñoz 
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> Hello list,
>
> So, as quite a few of us are users of the different Aftershokz bone
> conduction headsets, I thought I’d post some of my thoughts with the new
> Aeropex headset that they just put out last week.
>
> This isn’t a thorough review or anything. There are enough of those out
> there on CNet or The Verge and similar techy sites for a super detailed
> overview. More just my initial observations after having them for a  couple
> of days and using them with my iPhone and Voiceover.
>
> In general, the Aeropex are lighter and thinner than the Trekz Air that
> they replace. They’ve also got Bluetooth 5.0. For me and my 7 3/8 round
> head, they do feel a bit more comfortable than the Trekz Air, but it’s not
> like the Air were uncomfortable to begin with. Just an overall lighter feel
> to them I guess you could say.
>
> One of the big selling points along with a smaller footprint and Bluetooth
> 5.0 with the Aeropex is that there’s less noise bleed and less vibration
> through the *transducers* at louder sound levels. Personally, If I’ve got
> my headphones on and blasting, the sound bleed is kind of irrelevant to me.
> Yes, there’s less vibration, but I can’t say the Trekz Air vibrating
> bothered me.
>
> One main thing I’m noticing is that with the Aeropex and Voiceover with
> the iPhone, is that audio has a tinny and muffled sound quality to it. The
> Trekz Air to my ears/cheek bones at least have a  richer and deeper base
> feel to them. For things like music and videos, the sound quality is fine,
> but for me who is on my phone all day for this or that reason and always
> using VO, this muffled tinniness stands out. Another thing I’m noticing is
> that when dictating something with VO, there seem to be a lot more
> mistakes. I find myself having to make way more corrections or erase
> everything and try again than with the Trekz Air. There’s also this weird
> thing with VO where I’m guessing it may be some sort of battery saving
> behavior, but for a micro second, the headset seems to hibernate. This
> causes VO speech to sometimes get cut off at the beginning of whatever it
> was going to say. This hesitation is minimal, but enough to affect the flow
> of output speech by VO. The Trekz Air pare that I have doesn’t do this and
> is overall very responsive. I don’t notice any improvement as far as
> latency with Bluetooth 5.0 on the Aeropex and 4.2 with the Trekz Air either.
>
> In short, I’m going to give it a few more days, but my first impression is
> that I’m not really impressed with the Aeropex. Yes, they’re lighter, have
> a longer battery and all that, but the audio quality for the iPhone TTS in
> my opinion is less than the Trekz Air and the dictation mistakes are too
> frequent and substantial to just be a random thing or maybe me mumbling
> etc.
>
> The Aeropex are $160 and the Trekz Air got bumped down to $120.
>
> Anyway, if anyone else grabbed the Aeropex, I’d like to know what they
> think. Maybe I got a bum unit or maybe I just have a finicky ear/cheek bone.
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New Aftershokz Aeropex bone conduction headset thoughts

2019-08-03 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
Hello list,

So, as quite a few of us are users of the different Aftershokz bone
conduction headsets, I thought I’d post some of my thoughts with the new
Aeropex headset that they just put out last week. 

This isn’t a thorough review or anything. There are enough of those out
there on CNet or The Verge and similar techy sites for a super detailed
overview. More just my initial observations after having them for a  couple
of days and using them with my iPhone and Voiceover. 

In general, the Aeropex are lighter and thinner than the Trekz Air that they
replace. They’ve also got Bluetooth 5.0. For me and my 7 3/8 round head,
they do feel a bit more comfortable than the Trekz Air, but it’s not like
the Air were uncomfortable to begin with. Just an overall lighter feel to
them I guess you could say.

One of the big selling points along with a smaller footprint and Bluetooth
5.0 with the Aeropex is that there’s less noise bleed and less vibration
through the transducers at louder sound levels. Personally, If I’ve got my
headphones on and blasting, the sound bleed is kind of irrelevant to me.
Yes, there’s less vibration, but I can’t say the Trekz Air vibrating
bothered me.

One main thing I’m noticing is that with the Aeropex and Voiceover with the
iPhone, is that audio has a tinny and muffled sound quality to it. The Trekz
Air to my ears/cheek bones at least have a  richer and deeper base feel to
them. For things like music and videos, the sound quality is fine, but for
me who is on my phone all day for this or that reason and always using VO,
this muffled tinniness stands out. Another thing I’m noticing is that when
dictating something with VO, there seem to be a lot more mistakes. I find
myself having to make way more corrections or erase everything and try again
than with the Trekz Air. There’s also this weird thing with VO where I’m
guessing it may be some sort of battery saving behavior, but for a micro
second, the headset seems to hibernate. This causes VO speech to sometimes
get cut off at the beginning of whatever it was going to say. This
hesitation is minimal, but enough to affect the flow of output speech by VO.
The Trekz Air pare that I have doesn’t do this and is overall very
responsive. I don’t notice any improvement as far as latency with Bluetooth
5.0 on the Aeropex and 4.2 with the Trekz Air either.

In short, I’m going to give it a few more days, but my first impression is
that I’m not really impressed with the Aeropex. Yes, they’re lighter, have a
longer battery and all that, but the audio quality for the iPhone TTS in my
opinion is less than the Trekz Air and the dictation mistakes are too
frequent and substantial to just be a random thing or maybe me mumbling etc.


The Aeropex are $160 and the Trekz Air got bumped down to $120.

Anyway, if anyone else grabbed the Aeropex, I’d like to know what they
think. Maybe I got a bum unit or maybe I just have a finicky ear/cheek bone.

 

Cristóbal

 

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Re: Aftershokz sportz headphones?

2017-11-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I have the original Aftershokz Bluez headphones. I think Aftershokz have 
improved a bit with their newer models, but I find the audio quality is 
fine for screen readers and books and the like. I don't find it to be a 
high fidelity sound, so I don't tend to use them for listening to music.



There's also quite a bit of noise bleed, so people around you can hear 
that you're listening to something. This is fine when I'm walking around 
the house or down the street, but it isn't something I want when I'm 
sitting in a meeting at the office. There I tend to use something like 
the EarPods from Apple which don't have any passive noise cancellation 
but also have a lot less bleed.



I also find the Aftershokz to be very comfortable, but others have 
complained about how uncomfortable they are, so if you can checdk them 
out first, that would be good.



On 11/23/2017 09:45 AM, Lelia wrote:


Hi all, so yesterday my husband and I were able to see a pair of 
aftershokz sportz headsets.  They looked really neat to me and I liked 
the fact that your ears weren’t completely covered.  I am just writing 
to get some others opinions and also to find out the sound quality.  
For example, if I were to read a book such as audible or Bard, or if I 
were to play music, what is the sound like? I know every one has a 
different opinion on what they like about sound.


Anyway, thanks for what ever you can give me.

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Aftershokz sportz headphones?

2017-11-23 Thread Lelia
Hi all, so yesterday my husband and I were able to see a pair of aftershokz
sportz headsets.  They looked really neat to me and I liked the fact that
your ears weren't completely covered.  I am just writing to get some others
opinions and also to find out the sound quality.  For example, if I were to
read a book such as audible or Bard, or if I were to play music, what is the
sound like? I know every one has a different opinion on what they like about
sound.  

 

Anyway, thanks for what ever you can give me. 

 

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RE: iPhone 8 and Aftershokz Trekx Titanium

2017-10-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
This is new behaviour in iOS 11, you can turn bluetooth or WiFi off in the 
Control Centre and it will actually only disconnect you from your currently 
connected device, only if you go to Settings > WiFi or Settings > Bluetooth and 
turn them off there will they truly be turned off.
As for your headset, is Voiceover staying on the phone or ddoes it disappear 
and you hear nothing? If this is the case it may just that volume has dropped 
to 0, press the volume button repeatedly to bring it up.
If Voiceover does not switch at all and remains on the phone then somehow your 
headset is not paired and if it shows up in the list I would tap on the More 
button beside it, then tap “Forget this device” and try to pair it again.
Even though after I updated to iOS 11 my Voyager Edge was still in the list of 
devices, it did not work and I had to forget it and pair it again. All my 
bluetooth devices work fine under iOS 11 so it should work.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8 and Aftershokz Trekx Titanium

Today I bought an iPhone 8 and attempted to pair my Trekz Titanium headset. The 
Trekz indicates that it has connected with the phone, and the phone indicates 
bluetooth connected in the status bar, but i can't get audio to pllay through 
the headset. Under Settings, Bluetooth, it does not indicate that there are any 
bluetooth devices connected. What is interesting is that in the status bar it 
indicated bluetooth connected even when there is no bluetooth device connected. 
I know this seems weird, but does anyone have any thoughts?

Andy

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iPhone 8 and Aftershokz Trekx Titanium

2017-10-05 Thread Andy Baracco
Today I bought an iPhone 8 and attempted to pair my Trekz Titanium headset. The 
Trekz indicates that it has connected with the phone, and the phone indicates 
bluetooth connected in the status bar, but i can't get audio to pllay through 
the headset. Under Settings, Bluetooth, it does not indicate that there are any 
bluetooth devices connected. What is interesting is that in the status bar it 
indicated bluetooth connected even when there is no bluetooth device connected. 
I know this seems weird, but does anyone have any thoughts?

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RE: Off topic, aftershokz Bluez 2S for sail

2017-02-14 Thread M. Taylor
Ioana,

This is Mark, the moderator of this community.  

I saw your request asking for permission to post a sale, yesterday, on-list.  

To you and everyone in the community:

1.
You must send your sale permission requests directly to either Cara or me, 
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You must wait until either one of us grants that permission.  Sometimes, this 
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Ioana, as a courtesy, I will not revoke your posting privileges at this time 
but urge you to remember the for sale protocol, described above.  

Moderator Mark  

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Ioana Gandrabur
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Subject: Off topic, aftershokz Bluez 2S for sail

Hello, 

I'm apologizing in advance if this message is out of bounds with the list 
guidelines but, having received no reply from list management about posting 
this, I'll go ahead. 

I have a very lightly used aftershokz bluez 2S headset for sail for 70 Canadian 
$ plus shipping. 
. If anyone would like more details, please contact me off list at 
igandra...@gmail.com for details. 

Thanks,


Ioana


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Off topic, aftershokz Bluez 2S for sail

2017-02-14 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello, 

I'm apologizing in advance if this message is out of bounds with the list 
guidelines but, having received no reply from list management about posting 
this, I'll go ahead. 

I have a very lightly used aftershokz bluez 2S headset for sail for 70 Canadian 
$ plus shipping. 
. If anyone would like more details, please contact me off list at 
igandra...@gmail.com for details. 

Thanks,


Ioana


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RE: Aftershokz Trekz and equalizer function

2016-05-14 Thread Cristóbal
That was it. I knew I was missing something. Thanks.

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Subject: Re: Aftershokz Trekz and equalizer function

You need to hold down both the volume buttons until it says equalizer
setting changed. I believe there are only two alternate settings. One
is much more bass-heavy than the other. Both have their uses. Hope
that helps.

On 5/14/16, Cristóbal  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So I purchased some Aftershokz Trekz and am playing around with them. I’ve
> figured more or less everything out and have read the manual. The only
> thing
> I’m having trouble with is cycling through the various equalizer options
> when playing music or audio of some sort.
>
> On my old Bluez II, I would press and hold the play/pause button to get the
> different  sound effects. With the Trekz however, even though the manual
> states that in order to accomplish the same function, I have to press and
> hold the same button for two seconds, I can’t seem to get it to work. I
> either press it for too long and invoke the Siri/voice command aspect of
> the
> headset or pause the audio. Is there some sort of sweet spot I’m missing to
> cycle through  the different  equalizer sound options?
>
> Reviews state that audio is much improved with this headset, but so far, at
> least on the EQ setting the headset came in, I’m finding the older Bluez II
> to have a deeper/richer sound. The Trekz feel a little flatter. This is why
> I want to play with the other EQ sounds to see if that may be the
> difference.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
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Re: Aftershokz Trekz and equalizer function

2016-05-14 Thread Michael Feir
You need to hold down both the volume buttons until it says equalizer
setting changed. I believe there are only two alternate settings. One
is much more bass-heavy than the other. Both have their uses. Hope
that helps.

On 5/14/16, Cristóbal  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So I purchased some Aftershokz Trekz and am playing around with them. I’ve
> figured more or less everything out and have read the manual. The only
> thing
> I’m having trouble with is cycling through the various equalizer options
> when playing music or audio of some sort.
>
> On my old Bluez II, I would press and hold the play/pause button to get the
> different  sound effects. With the Trekz however, even though the manual
> states that in order to accomplish the same function, I have to press and
> hold the same button for two seconds, I can’t seem to get it to work. I
> either press it for too long and invoke the Siri/voice command aspect of
> the
> headset or pause the audio. Is there some sort of sweet spot I’m missing to
> cycle through  the different  equalizer sound options?
>
> Reviews state that audio is much improved with this headset, but so far, at
> least on the EQ setting the headset came in, I’m finding the older Bluez II
> to have a deeper/richer sound. The Trekz feel a little flatter. This is why
> I want to play with the other EQ sounds to see if that may be the
> difference.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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