RE: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-11-01 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
K480 details and link to Amazon:

About this item

*Type on Any Device: A new type of wireless computer keyboard for your 
desk that also works with your tablet and smartphone; connect with any 
Bluetooth-enabled device with external keyboard support. Wireless range: > 10m 
wireless range

*Easy-Switch Dial: Simply turn the dial of the Logitech K480 keyboard 
to switch typing between 3 connected Bluetooth wireless devices, you can work 
with Windows, macOS, Chrome OS, Android, and iPadOS

*Familiar Keyboard Layout: Find all the shortcut keys you use the most, 
but in a space-saving design that lets you place your mouse close to you, for 
less arm reaching and better posture

*Integrated Cradle: A cradle to hold your phone or tablet at just the 
right angle for you to read while you type; fits most phones and tablets up to 
0.4 inches thick and 10 inches wide

*Reliable Power: This portable, wireless Bluetooth keyboard comes with 
2 pre-installed AAA batteries which can last up to 24 months (2) and is 
compatible with wired, wireless or Bluetooth mice. Battery indicator light

*Durable and Spill-resistant: The wireless and compact keyboard K480 is 
also spill-resistant (1) to survive small accidents; it’s a reliable and 
durable partner for your desk at home, or at work

 

Right now it looks like it is $29.99 but there may be a lower price.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Multi-Device-Keyboard-K480/dp/B00MUTWLW4

 

 

 

Richard,

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Keychron has great affordable keyboards. There are different models, take a 
look at them.

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I can certainly take a look at what my husband got me a couple years ago when I 
got my iPhone and iPad.  At the moment I don’t recall the name of the 
keyboard/case.

 

 

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an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I currently use an 
Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-11-01 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Keychron has great affordable keyboards. There are different models, take a 
look at them.
Feliciano
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I can certainly take a look at what my husband got me a couple years ago when I 
got my iPhone and iPad.  At the moment I don’t recall the name of the 
keyboard/case.


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RE: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-11-01 Thread loreallavigna
I can certainly take a look at what my husband got me a couple years ago when I 
got my iPhone and iPad.  At the moment I don’t recall the name of the 
keyboard/case.

 

 

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Subject: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

 

Hi everyone,

 

I have a VRT who is inquiring about a good Bluetooth keyboard to be used with 
an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I currently use an 
Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-11-01 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
The Logitech keyboards I have owned, the USB Dongle was stored by the battery 
compartment, or inside it next to the batteries.

Checking with Logitech would answer which models have that dongle.

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Sweeney
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 6:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

 

I don't recall Richard having received a dongle with thatt keyboard but all of 
your other instructions do indeed strike a chord and of course one needs go to 
their blue toothh setting also to complete a connecttion as you say.

On 01/11/2024 13:02, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

You will want to pair each device with a separate function key.

I do not recall if that keyboard has the USB dongle for pairing to a computer, 
if so, that is usually f1.

You can pair whatever you want to the other two, and in fact, I think you can 
use f1 without the dongle if you don’t want it connected to a computer, but 
someone else will need to confirm that.

 

The process is, whichever key you are pairing a device to, hold that key down 
until the keyboard shows up in your bluetooth settings, then double tap it on 
your device to confirm pairing and release the key.

Once it is paired, to switch devices you simply hold that key down for a couple 
of seconds and it should connect to the other device.

So, if the phone is on f2, and the iPad is f3, and you are currently using it 
on the phone, press f3 for a couple of seconds to connect to the iPad.

 

HTH,

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

 

I have the logitech K3 80. How do you toggle between devices? I can’t figure it 
out. If I connect it to my iPhone I have a hard time reconnecting it to my 
iPad. I’m missing something lol.

 

Kerry

 

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On Oct 31, 2024, at 12:43 PM, Tony Sweeney mailto:tonymswee...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage. 

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, Windows and 
mac. 

There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series is 
reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers. 

Good luck, 
Tony, Dublin Ireland

On 31/10/2024 16:39, joediner...@gmail.com <mailto:joediner...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have a VRT who is inquiring about a good Bluetooth keyboard to be used with 
an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I currently use an 
Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Joe

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-11-01 Thread Tony Sweeney
I don't recall Richard having received a dongle with thatt keyboard but 
all of your other instructions do indeed strike a chord and of course 
one needs go to their blue toothh setting also to complete a connecttion 
as you say.


On 01/11/2024 13:02, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:


You will want to pair each device with a separate function key.

I do not recall if that keyboard has the USB dongle for pairing to a 
computer, if so, that is usually f1.


You can pair whatever you want to the other two, and in fact, I think 
you can use f1 without the dongle if you don’t want it connected to a 
computer, but someone else will need to confirm that.


The process is, whichever key you are pairing a device to, hold that 
key down until the keyboard shows up in your bluetooth settings, then 
double tap it on your device to confirm pairing and release the key.


Once it is paired, to switch devices you simply hold that key down for 
a couple of seconds and it should connect to the other device.


So, if the phone is on f2, and the iPad is f3, and you are currently 
using it on the phone, press f3 for a couple of seconds to connect to 
the iPad.


HTH,

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it.”


– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the 
Universe.


My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Kerry Macdonald

*Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2024 4:59 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

I have the logitech K3 80. How do you toggle between devices? I can’t 
figure it out. If I connect it to my iPhone I have a hard time 
reconnecting it to my iPad. I’m missing something lol.


Kerry

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On Oct 31, 2024, at 12:43 PM, Tony Sweeney
 wrote:



I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage.

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone,
Windows and mac.

There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech
series is reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers.

Good luck,
Tony, Dublin Ireland

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Hi everyone,

I have a VRT who is inquiring about a good Bluetooth keyboard
to be used with an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full
size keyboard. I currently use an Apple keyboard case for my
iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-11-01 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
You will want to pair each device with a separate function key.

I do not recall if that keyboard has the USB dongle for pairing to a computer, 
if so, that is usually f1.

You can pair whatever you want to the other two, and in fact, I think you can 
use f1 without the dongle if you don’t want it connected to a computer, but 
someone else will need to confirm that.

 

The process is, whichever key you are pairing a device to, hold that key down 
until the keyboard shows up in your bluetooth settings, then double tap it on 
your device to confirm pairing and release the key.

Once it is paired, to switch devices you simply hold that key down for a couple 
of seconds and it should connect to the other device.

So, if the phone is on f2, and the iPad is f3, and you are currently using it 
on the phone, press f3 for a couple of seconds to connect to the iPad.

 

HTH,

 

Richard,

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 

– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kerry 
Macdonald
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

 

I have the logitech K3 80. How do you toggle between devices? I can’t figure it 
out. If I connect it to my iPhone I have a hard time reconnecting it to my 
iPad. I’m missing something lol.

 

Kerry

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 31, 2024, at 12:43 PM, Tony Sweeney mailto:tonymswee...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage. 

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, Windows and 
mac. 

There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series is 
reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers. 

Good luck, 
Tony, Dublin Ireland

On 31/10/2024 16:39, joediner...@gmail.com <mailto:joediner...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have a VRT who is inquiring about a good Bluetooth keyboard to be used with 
an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I currently use an 
Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

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I have the logitech K3 80. How do you toggle between devices? I can’t figure it out. If I connect it to my iPhone I have a hard time reconnecting it to my iPad. I’m missing something lol.KerrySent from my iPhoneOn Oct 31, 2024, at 12:43 PM, Tony Sweeney  wrote:
  

  
  
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I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone,
  Windows and mac. 

There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech
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Function keys for connecting bluetooth on the K380

2024-11-01 Thread Tony Sweeney

From memory your first three function keys  are what you concentrate on.

Can't remember the sequence off the top of my head but think the F2 key 
is forer your iPhone, F1 may well be for Windows and 3 for the Mac.


So dependinding on what device you wish to connect, press the equivalent 
function key for oh about 3 or four seconds.


Incidentally thewse commands are for when you haveinitially set up pairing.

Perhaps others could answer you better on this here.

Tony

On 01/11/2024 11:59, Kerry Macdonald wrote:

I have the logitech K3 80. How do you toggle between devices? I can’t 
figure it out. If I connect it to my iPhone I have a hard time 
reconnecting it to my iPad. I’m missing something lol.


Kerry

Sent from my iPhone

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I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage.

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, 
Windows and mac.


There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series 
is reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers.


Good luck,
Tony, Dublin Ireland

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appreciated.


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Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-10-31 Thread Kelly Ford
I am another happy user of the Logitech MX-s. It has a great feel, good battery 
life and is all around a quality product.

On Oct 31, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:

 I like the Logitech MX keys keyboard. Also has a number pad and compared to 
three devices, including computers and devices.
Sent from my iPhone

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Logitech bluetooth keyboards are great!
She could check out the features of the various models and see which one suits 
her best.
Most allow up to three devices with an easy way to toggle between devices.

I personally use a large, ergonomic logitech bluetooth keyboard with my laptop 
and also my iPhone and iPad, though it is too large to easily carry anywhere.
If I wanted a portable keyboard, I would go with the K380 most likely.



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I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage.

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, Windows and 
mac.

There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series is 
reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers.

Good luck,
Tony, Dublin Ireland
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I like the Logitech MX keys keyboard. Also has a number pad and compared to three devices, including computers and devices.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 31, 2024, at 12:49 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Logitech bluetooth keyboards are great!She could check out the features of the various models and see which one suits her best.Most allow up to three devices with an easy way to toggle between devices. I personally use a large, ergonomic logitech bluetooth keyboard with my laptop and also my iPhone and iPad, though it is too large to easily carry anywhere.If I wanted a portable keyboard, I would go with the K380 most likely.   Richard,“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe. My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony SweeneySent: Thursday, October 31, 2024 9:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage. I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, Windows and mac. There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series is reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers. Good luck, Tony, Dublin IrelandOn 31/10/2024 16:39, joediner...@gmail.com wrote:Hi everyone, I have a VRT who is inquiring about a good Bluetooth keyboard to be used with an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I currently use an Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,Joe-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005801db2bb3%247491e3a0%245db5aae0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3944226e-3d74-804d-78ea-ffdd7143c00b%40gmail.com.



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Re: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-10-31 Thread Tony Sweeney

I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage.

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, 
Windows and mac.


There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series is 
reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers.


Good luck,
Tony, Dublin Ireland

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-10-31 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Logitech bluetooth keyboards are great!

She could check out the features of the various models and see which one suits 
her best.

Most allow up to three devices with an easy way to toggle between devices.

 

I personally use a large, ergonomic logitech bluetooth keyboard with my laptop 
and also my iPhone and iPad, though it is too large to easily carry anywhere.

If I wanted a portable keyboard, I would go with the K380 most likely.

 

 

 

Richard,

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– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I use the Logitech K380 and I'm on my second on at this stage. 

I'm able to connect three different platforms to it as in iPhone, Windows and 
mac. 

There is a lot of choice out there of course but the Logitech series is 
reasonably priced in my opion for what it offers. 

Good luck, 
Tony, Dublin Ireland

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an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I currently use an 
Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to recommend. Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-10-31 Thread joedinero68
Hi everyone,

 

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with an iPhone and iPad. She is looking for a full size keyboard. I
currently use an Apple keyboard case for my iPad pro, so not sure of what to
recommend. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-25 Thread Max
Hi,
the problem I have with bluetooth connected to the aids is there is so much 
background noise people can’t hear me very well. I mostly turn off bluetooth 
when I am out. this makes it very hard to call a taxi as I have to press button 
1 or 2 depending on what I want.
I can’t hear the button to press without the aids.
Max.

> On 25 Sep 2024, at 10:13, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
> breaking up. 
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
> connection to her. 
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
> on. 
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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I can just trurn off Bluetooth, if I need to do that. 

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Subject: RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

There are adjustments they can make.  I usually wind up putting an old set of 
hearing aids on so the blue tooth doesn't kick in since apparently if you're 
wearing them, it's the primary connection.  I'm going to be looking at new 
phones this weekend, so I'll try to find out if that changes.

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Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Definitely yesterday, when I disengaged Bluetooth, it cleared the connection. 
Good point about microphone. 

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Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Good point. I( have an appointment in about three weeks. 

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Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but still, 
> people continue to say I'm breaking up.
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
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RE: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-25 Thread donmoore48
There are adjustments they can make.  I usually wind up putting an old set of 
hearing aids on so the blue tooth doesn't kick in since apparently if you're 
wearing them, it's the primary connection.  I'm going to be looking at new 
phones this weekend, so I'll try to find out if that changes.

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Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me I'm 
>> breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T to Verizon to 
>> try to get better coverage. It probably is a little better, but 
>> still, people continue to say I'm breaking up.
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing aids was 
>> the problem, so today when on a call, I told the caller to let me 
>> switch it off, and it did give a clearer connection to her.
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth on.
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Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-24 Thread Eric Caron
This may not be your hearing aids.

Using different bluetooth devices I’m told now and then I can’t be 
heard on a call.  Turning off bluetooth and talking on the phone directly fixes 
it.  The problem is not consistent on the bluetooth devices.  It happens often 
with my aftershocks. 

Usually my hearing aids do work with bluetooth on as long as other headsets are 
not connected.

Eric Caron 




> On Sep 24, 2024, at 8:39 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
> them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
> microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
>> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
>> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
>> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
>> breaking up. 
>> 
>> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
>> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
>> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
>> connection to her. 
>> 
>> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
>> on. 
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Re: Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-24 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hey Carolyn, I think you might wanna make an audiology appointment and have 
them look at this. Because the only thing I can think of, is that the 
microphones are clogged up. This could be why they're breaking in and out.

> On Sep 24, 2024, at 7:13 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
> I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
> to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
> little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
> breaking up. 
> 
> Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
> aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
> caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
> connection to her. 
> 
> I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
> on. 
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Bluetooth and MFI hearing aids.

2024-09-24 Thread Carolyn Arnold
So much of the time, when I'm on the phone, people tell me
I'm breaking up, even to the point that I changed from AT&T
to Verizon to try to get better coverage. It probably is a
little better, but still, people continue to say I'm
breaking up. 

Somehow, it dawned on me, that maybe Bluetooth to my hearing
aids was the problem, so today when on a call, I told the
caller to let me switch it off, and it did give a clearer
connection to her. 

I am so disappointed. It is so convenient to have Bluetooth
on. 

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RE: How to keep voiceover from switching over to my Bluetooth speaker

2024-09-24 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
First, if you are trying Audio Ducking, try While Speaking, not always.
However, others have had issues with bluetooth speakers in iOS 18.
If you go into your bluetooth settings, and on that speaker, flick up, and 
double tap more info, you can change the type of device.
If it is on Speaker, maybe try a different option knowing that you can always 
go back to whatever it is on now.

HTH,

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-Original Message-
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Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 1:18 PM
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Subject: How to keep voiceover from switching over to my Bluetooth speaker

Hello,
I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max and beats pill Bluetooth speaker. When I play music 
on the Bluetooth speaker, VoiceOver speaks through the speaker and not my phone 
as I would like it to do. I have looked through the settings and cannot find a 
way to change this. Does anyone have experience with this issue? I have changed 
audio ducking to always with no effect. Any help would be appreciated.
Suzanne.
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How to keep voiceover from switching over to my Bluetooth speaker

2024-09-24 Thread Suzanne Wilson
Hello,
I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max and beats pill Bluetooth speaker. When I play music 
on the Bluetooth speaker, VoiceOver speaks through the speaker and not my phone 
as I would like it to do. I have looked through the settings and cannot find a 
way to change this. Does anyone have experience with this issue? I have changed 
audio ducking to always with no effect. Any help would be appreciated.
Suzanne.
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RE: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

2024-09-18 Thread davycuppens
I cannot reproduce this behaviour on my ipad pro 2020. It is just working fine 
here.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: woensdag 18 september 2024 18:18
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

Try to select "Headset" instead of "Speaker"

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Subject: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the speaker and not 
separated as before Thanks, Matthew 

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RE: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

2024-09-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Try to select "Headset" instead of "Speaker"

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Subject: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the speaker and not 
separated as before Thanks, Matthew 

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RE: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

2024-09-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
In my experience if you set it to Speaker it does the exact opposite, Voiceover 
remains on the phone and only your other audio comes from the speaker.
Headset will send both Voiceover and your audio stream to the Bluetooth device 
(unless that has changed).


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

I don't know if it's been suggested yet, but inside of Bluetooth settings for 
your particular speaker go to more info and set the device type as Bluetooth 
speaker. I have noticed that changing the mode to such setting makes voiceover 
come out through the Bluetooth speaker. You may have to turn off voiceover And 
on again after you change the setting for it to work
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On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:33 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
 I have not used a bluetooth speaker yet with 18. Which speaker do you have?
They will need to know that.


Richard, USA
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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)



On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the speaker and not 
separated as before
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Re: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

2024-09-17 Thread Feliciano Godoy
I don't know if it's been suggested yet, but inside of Bluetooth settings for 
your particular speaker go to more info and set the device type as Bluetooth 
speaker. I have noticed that changing the mode to such setting makes voiceover 
come out through the Bluetooth speaker. You may have to turn off voiceover And 
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On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:33 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
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 I have not used a bluetooth speaker yet with 18. Which speaker do you have?
They will need to know that.


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On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:

Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the speaker and not 
separated as before
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Re: Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

2024-09-17 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
I have not used a bluetooth speaker yet with 18. Which speaker do you have?
They will need to know that. 


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> On Sep 17, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask 
> on this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the 
> phone when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now 
> even after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then 
> turning VO off then on again, the audio for the music and VO is in the 
> speaker and not separated as before
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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Voiceover not staying on phone in bluetooth speaker.

2024-09-17 Thread Matthew Bullis
Before I file this as a bug with the accessibility email, I thought I'd ask on 
this list if anyone else is experienceing that VO isn't staying on the phone 
when I pair to a speaker? It had done in the previous version, but now even 
after going into the more info box and reselecting speaker type, then turning 
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separated as before
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Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-10 Thread Tali Sarnetzky
That makes sense. Thank you so much.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 6:40 AM 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The Shokz can only be paired if you start with them off, then hold the
> power button in until you hear them say Pairing.
>
> Then, they should show up in the bluetooth settings and you can double tap
> and pair them.
>
> If the old phone is off, you needn’t remove them to pair with the phone
> that is on.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
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> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Tali Sarnetzky
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 7, 2024 5:46 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To
> My iPhone 15
>
>
>
> Thanks, Richard. Well, the old phone is here, but turned off. Should I
> perhaps unpair the headphones from it first?
>
> Also, I don't know of a pairing mode for the headphones themselves, but i
> can look it up. With the previous phone I simply tried and it showed up.
>
>
>
> Thank you for the suggestions.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking
> it is connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone.
> Reboot the phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode.
>
> Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double
> tap on it.
>
> It should connect.
>
> If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
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>
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>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> (sent from my iPhone 13 pro)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi everyone.
>
>
>
> I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The
> only problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No
> matter what I try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great
> with my previous phone, iPhone SE2020.
>
>
>
> I'd appreciate any advice.
>
>
>
> Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.
>
>
>
> Tali
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RE: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-10 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
The Shokz can only be paired if you start with them off, then hold the power 
button in until you hear them say Pairing.

Then, they should show up in the bluetooth settings and you can double tap and 
pair them.

If the old phone is off, you needn’t remove them to pair with the phone that is 
on.

 

 

Richard, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tali 
Sarnetzky
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2024 5:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 
15

 

Thanks, Richard. Well, the old phone is here, but turned off. Should I perhaps 
unpair the headphones from it first? 

Also, I don't know of a pairing mode for the headphones themselves, but i can 
look it up. With the previous phone I simply tried and it showed up.

 

Thank you for the suggestions.

 

On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking it is 
connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone. Reboot the 
phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode. 

Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double tap 
on it. 

It should connect. 

If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 

 





On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky mailto:tali.sarnet...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi everyone.

 

I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The only 
problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No matter what I 
try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great with my previous 
phone, iPhone SE2020.

 

I'd appreciate any advice.

 

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

 

Tali 

 

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RE: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-10 Thread Steve Cook
Yes, the Meta Ray Bans do work using the faster speeds on the BARD app.

 

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Caron
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 8:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

Hi Richard,

 

   The bug was well reported to NLS during the Beta process.  I was 
on the Beta test group.  I was surprised Bard put in the app with the known 
bug.  I personally think they should have waited until it was fixed.

 

Just after that I think one of the beta testers realized that, at least in most 
cases, the head sets would work if the speed was set to 100 percent, or normal. 
 I never use normal unless it is a language or music lesson.  Apparently this 
was true of the other Beta testers as none of us caught it for some time. 

 

I would hope with the early knowledge of the bug, and now this additional info 
it can be resolved. 

 

In the meantime does anyone know if the latest Metta Ray Bands work with Bard 
when in faster speeds?

 

Eric Caron 

 

 

 

 





On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:12 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.

This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as many 
people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.

I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the speed 
issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.

Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the screen 
to stop the book.

Richard, USA

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not 
as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think 
this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was 
fixed.

 

   It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the 
app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read 
books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 

 

   This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for 
headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive 
headset.

 

Eric Caron 

 

 






On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I 
don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a 
button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.

Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!






On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Good thought, but no.

I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.

If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three 
quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.

We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press 
of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a 
sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that 
I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. No

Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-10 Thread Tali Sarnetzky
Thanks, Richard. Well, the old phone is here, but turned off. Should I
perhaps unpair the headphones from it first?
Also, I don't know of a pairing mode for the headphones themselves, but i
can look it up. With the previous phone I simply tried and it showed up.

Thank you for the suggestions.

On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking
> it is connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone.
> Reboot the phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode.
> Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double
> tap on it.
> It should connect.
> If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
>
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>
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>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> (sent from my iPhone 13 pro)
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi everyone.
>
> I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The
> only problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No
> matter what I try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great
> with my previous phone, iPhone SE2020.
>
> I'd appreciate any advice.
>
> Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.
>
> Tali
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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
If I listened to all my bard books at normal speed, it would take me forever to get a lot of reading done. If people are having trouble withthe bard mobile app, then maybe they should go back to the nls player. I just found several cases of flash drives full of bard books to listen to. Good luck.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 8, 2024, at 10:23 PM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:Well, I always listen to all of my Bard books at normal speed, so I guess that explains why I have never experienced this problem with any of my various types of bluetooth headphones. On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 9:44 PM 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:Thanks for the background info. I agree, it should not have been released. And, hopefully, they will get it solved faster than most government programs work... 😀,Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Sep 8, 2024, at 5:58 PM, Eric Caron <homefir...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Richard,	The bug was well reported to NLS during the Beta process.  I was on the Beta test group.  I was surprised Bard put in the app with the known bug.  I personally think they should have waited until it was fixed.Just after that I think one of the beta testers realized that, at least in most cases, the head sets would work if the speed was set to 100 percent, or normal.  I never use normal unless it is a language or music lesson.  Apparently this was true of the other Beta testers as none of us caught it for some time. I would hope with the early knowledge of the bug, and now this additional info it can be resolved. In the meantime does anyone know if the latest Metta Ray Bands work with Bard when in faster speeds?Eric Caron  On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:12 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as many people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the speed issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the screen to stop the book.Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Eric CaronSent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was fixed.It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive headset. Eric Caron   On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:Good thought, but no.I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold SchmidtSent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one p

Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Barbara Stahl
Well, I always listen to all of my Bard books at normal speed, so I guess
that explains why I have never experienced this problem with any of my
various types of bluetooth headphones.

On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 9:44 PM 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the background info. I agree, it should not have been released.
> And, hopefully, they will get it solved faster than most government
> programs work... 😀,
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
>
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> (sent from my iPhone 13 pro)
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2024, at 5:58 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Richard,
>
> The bug was well reported to NLS during the Beta process.  I was on the
> Beta test group.  I was surprised Bard put in the app with the known bug.
> I personally think they should have waited until it was fixed.
>
> Just after that I think one of the beta testers realized that, at least in
> most cases, the head sets would work if the speed was set to 100 percent,
> or normal.  I never use normal unless it is a language or music lesson.
> Apparently this was true of the other Beta testers as none of us caught it
> for some time.
>
> I would hope with the early knowledge of the bug, and now this additional
> info it can be resolved.
>
> In the meantime does anyone know if the latest Metta Ray Bands work with
> Bard when in faster speeds?
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:12 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on
> it.
> This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as
> many people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.
> I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the
> speed issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.
> Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the
> screen to stop the book.
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Eric Caron
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made
> by Apple
>
> Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users
> are not as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I
> don’t think this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app
> until it was fixed.
>
>It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on
> the app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us
> read books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting.
>
>This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking
> for headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another
> expensive headset.
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes
> out. I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do
> when I hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my
> book will stop.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Good thought, but no.
> I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it
> playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.
> If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and
> three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on
> the setting.
> We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.
>
>
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ...
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Arnold Schmidt
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made
> by Apple
>
> Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one
> press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on
> Amazon as a sleep band, but that I w

Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Thanks for the background info. I agree, it should not have been released. And, hopefully, they will get it solved faster than most government programs work... 😀,Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Sep 8, 2024, at 5:58 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:Hi Richard,	The bug was well reported to NLS during the Beta process.  I was on the Beta test group.  I was surprised Bard put in the app with the known bug.  I personally think they should have waited until it was fixed.Just after that I think one of the beta testers realized that, at least in most cases, the head sets would work if the speed was set to 100 percent, or normal.  I never use normal unless it is a language or music lesson.  Apparently this was true of the other Beta testers as none of us caught it for some time. I would hope with the early knowledge of the bug, and now this additional info it can be resolved. In the meantime does anyone know if the latest Metta Ray Bands work with Bard when in faster speeds?Eric Caron  On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:12 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as many people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the speed issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the screen to stop the book.Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Eric CaronSent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was fixed.It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive headset. Eric Caron   On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:Good thought, but no.I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold SchmidtSent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks?  Arnold Schmidt  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:  I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a few non Apple brand B

Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Richard,

The bug was well reported to NLS during the Beta process.  I was on the 
Beta test group.  I was surprised Bard put in the app with the known bug.  I 
personally think they should have waited until it was fixed.

Just after that I think one of the beta testers realized that, at least in most 
cases, the head sets would work if the speed was set to 100 percent, or normal. 
 I never use normal unless it is a language or music lesson.  Apparently this 
was true of the other Beta testers as none of us caught it for some time. 

I would hope with the early knowledge of the bug, and now this additional info 
it can be resolved. 

In the meantime does anyone know if the latest Metta Ray Bands work with Bard 
when in faster speeds?

Eric Caron 
 




> On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:12 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.
> This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as 
> many people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.
> I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the 
> speed issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.
> Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the 
> screen to stop the book.
> Richard, USA
> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by 
> Apple
>  
> Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are 
> not as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t 
> think this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it 
> was fixed.
>  
>It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the 
> app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read 
> books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 
>  
>This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for 
> headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive 
> headset.
>  
> Eric Caron 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson > <mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. 
>> I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I 
>> hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will 
>> stop.
>> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good thought, but no.
>>> I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
>>> playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.
>>> If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and 
>>> three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on 
>>> the setting.
>>> We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, USA
>>> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>>> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>>  
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by 
>>> Apple
>>>  
>>> Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one 
>>> press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on 
>>> Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and 
>>> about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people 
>>> while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one 
>>> press of th

RE: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Dennis Long
No company can catch every bug.  Good bug reports are key simply saying it 
isn’t working is not a good bug report
 
From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple
 
And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.
This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as many 
people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.
I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the speed 
issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.
Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the screen 
to stop the book.
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple
 
Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not 
as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think 
this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was 
fixed.
 
   It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the 
app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read 
books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 
 
   This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for 
headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive 
headset.
 
Eric Caron 
 
 
 
On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I 
don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a 
button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
 
On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Good thought, but no.
I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.
If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three 
quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.
We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.
 
 
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple
 
Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press 
of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a 
sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that 
I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None 
of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, 
including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, 
two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to 
half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get 
it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks? 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 
 
I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.
The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a 
few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the 
brands.  
Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD 
audio book?  If so, which brand and model?
 
 
 
Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 
 
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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Try some the soundcore headsets from anker. They do work pretty well. I agree with Rchard , there is no need to purchase a new headset. Just be patient. This problem happened before so i’m not surprised it happened ag.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 8, 2024, at 11:13 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as many people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the speed issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the screen to stop the book.Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric CaronSent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was fixed.    It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive headset. Eric Caron   On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:Good thought, but no.I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold SchmidtSent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks?  Arnold Schmidt  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:  I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the brands.  Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--

RE: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
And I have been corresponding with the NLS folks and they are working on it.

This is the kind of bug that would be very hard to catch before release as many 
people have headsets that work fine no matter the speed.

I hope this gets fixed soon.  Now that they have it narrowed down to the speed 
issue, let’s hope they can get a fix out soon.

Absolutely no need to buy a different headset, as you can still use the screen 
to stop the book.

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not 
as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think 
this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was 
fixed.

 

   It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the 
app.  Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read 
books at speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 

 

   This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for 
headsets to purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive 
headset.

 

Eric Caron 

 

 





On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I 
don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a 
button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.

Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!





On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Good thought, but no.

I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.

If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three 
quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.

We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press 
of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a 
sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that 
I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None 
of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, 
including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, 
two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to 
half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get 
it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks? 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3


On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



 

 

I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.

The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a 
few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the 
brands.  

Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD 
audio book?  If so, which brand and model?

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Barbra,

You may want to double check the head sets.  The latest Bard mobil app is 
broken for many headsets.  My Pose and my aftershocks no longer will start and 
stop play.

Eric Caron 


> On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> I have several from different brands that work.  They are Pioneer, boes,  
> something like lux or something like that and J Lab studios.  All of these 
> allow me to start and stop playing bard books using the buttons on the 
> headphones.  However, what they won't do is allow me to rewind or fast 
> forward through the book, instead, pressing these buttons skips back or 
> forward by sections.  
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
>> BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.
>> The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are 
>> a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure 
>> of the brands.  
>> Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a 
>> BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?
>>  
>>  
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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-08 Thread Eric Caron
Personally I have a huge problem with this bug.  I know that many users are not 
as lucky as Josh and report that they can’t use their headsets.  I don’t think 
this app with the bug should have replaced the Bard mobil app until it was 
fixed.

It has been found that it relates to the speed setting on the app.  
Make the speed normal and many head sets work.  But, many of us read books at 
speeds far beyond the normal, setting. 

This is a costly bug as I expect many folks are looking for headsets to 
purchase that work, when we really don’t need another expensive headset.

Eric Caron 



> On Sep 5, 2024, at 4:47 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I 
> don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit 
> a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good thought, but no.
>> I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
>> playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.
>> If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three 
>> quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the 
>> setting.
>> We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA
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>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>  
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by 
>> Apple
>>  
>> Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one 
>> press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon 
>> as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, 
>> being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while 
>> wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press 
>> of the button, including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. 
>> but in all cases, two presses of the button will stop it. i press and 
>> release, wait a quarter to half a second or so, then press and release again 
>> and it stops.  Until they get it straightened out, Iwonder if this method 
>> would work with your after shocks? 
>>  
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>  
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
>> BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.
>> The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are 
>> a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure 
>> of the brands.  
>> Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a 
>> BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard, USA
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>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-07 Thread Tali Sarnetzky
Thank you. I will definitely try your suggestions.

On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 8:33 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> You could also see if there is a factory reset option for the OpenRun and
> try that.
>
> If that and rebooting your iPhone still does not work, a final step I
> would do is to go to Settings > General > Transfer or Reset iPhone > Reset,
> then tap on “Reset Network Settings”.
>
> This will often clear up such issues. Keep in mind that it will disconnect
> you from any Wi-Fi networks and you will have to reconnect including
> entering your Wi-Fi password.
>
> Doing this will also rename your iPhone from whatever it was to simply
> “iPhone”. This can be easily fixed, just go to Settings > General > About,
> tap on the name field at the top and rename it to whatever you want it to
> be.
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2024 9:40 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To
> My iPhone 15
>
>
>
> Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking
> it is connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone.
> Reboot the phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode.
>
> Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double
> tap on it.
>
> It should connect.
>
> If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
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>
> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>
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>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> (sent from my iPhone 13 pro)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi everyone.
>
>
>
> I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The
> only problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No
> matter what I try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great
> with my previous phone, iPhone SE2020.
>
>
>
> I'd appreciate any advice.
>
>
>
> Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.
>
>
>
> Tali
>
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RE: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You could also see if there is a factory reset option for the OpenRun and try 
that.
If that and rebooting your iPhone still does not work, a final step I would do 
is to go to Settings > General > Transfer or Reset iPhone > Reset, then tap on 
“Reset Network Settings”.
This will often clear up such issues. Keep in mind that it will disconnect you 
from any Wi-Fi networks and you will have to reconnect including entering your 
Wi-Fi password.
Doing this will also rename your iPhone from whatever it was to simply 
“iPhone”. This can be easily fixed, just go to Settings > General > About, tap 
on the name field at the top and rename it to whatever you want it to be.

From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 
15

Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking it is 
connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone. Reboot the 
phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode.
Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double tap 
on it.
It should connect.
If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.



Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)



On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:

Hi everyone.

I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The only 
problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No matter what I 
try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great with my previous 
phone, iPhone SE2020.

I'd appreciate any advice.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

Tali

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Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-07 Thread Eiret
7. sep. 2024 kl. 04:35 skrev Tali Sarnetzky :Hi everyone.I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The only problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No matter what I try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great with my previous phone, iPhone SE2020.I'd appreciate any advice.Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.Tali -- My first book on Kindle, (now accessible!), The View From Here, can be found at:www.amazon.com/dp/B009ESXJAW



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Re: Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-06 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Assuming the old phone is no longer in your home and it is still thinking it is connected to the Shokz, I'd turn off bluetooth on your new phone. Reboot the phone. Put the Shokz into pairing mode. Open the bluetooth settings on the phone and see if it shows up and double tap on it. It should connect. If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility.Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Sep 6, 2024, at 7:35 PM, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:Hi everyone.I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The only problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No matter what I try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great with my previous phone, iPhone SE2020.I'd appreciate any advice.Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.Tali -- My first book on Kindle, (now accessible!), The View From Here, can be found at:www.amazon.com/dp/B009ESXJAW



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Problem Pairing My Shokz OpenRun Bluetooth Headphones To My iPhone 15

2024-09-06 Thread Tali Sarnetzky
Hi everyone.

I got an iPhone 15 about three months ago and everything is great. The only
problem I have is with my Bluetooth headphones, Shokz OpenRun. No matter
what I try, I cannot pair them with the phone. They worked great with my
previous phone, iPhone SE2020.

I'd appreciate any advice.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-05 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a new update when ios 18 comes out. I don’t have a big problem with this issue. Most of my headphones do when I hit a button. Sometimes I can hit the button twice quickly and my book will stop.Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Good thought, but no.I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold SchmidtSent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 4:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks?  Arnold Schmidt  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:  I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the brands.  Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00a801dafd4b%240edefc00%242c9cf400%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/019980F6-DE50-4DCB-ADF2-E48D854BC561%40gmail.com.



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RE: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-03 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Good thought, but no.

I’ve tried the slight pause between presses and nothing.  It will start it 
playing if it is stopped, but it won’t stop it if it is playing.

If I press twice too quickly, it jumps to the next chapter or part and three 
quick presses goes backward the same chapter or part, depending on the setting.

We’ll see whenever they get around to releasing a new update.

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press 
of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a 
sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that 
I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None 
of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, 
including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, 
two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to 
half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get 
it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks? 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



 

 

I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.

The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a 
few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the 
brands.  

Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD 
audio book?  If so, which brand and model?

 

 

 

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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-03 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Id have a nonApple pair of headphones that  start and stop with only one press of the button. They are my Perytong headphones that are sold on Amazon as a sleep band, but that I wear as much or more when I am up and about, being that I easily can hear outside noise and can talk to people while wearing them. None of my other nonApple headphones work with just one press of the button, including my Beats Flex headphones, which are sort of Apple. but in all cases, two presses of the button will stop it. i press and release, wait a quarter to half a second or so, then press and release again and it stops.  Until they get it straightened out, Iwonder if this method would work with your after shocks? Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:  I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the brands.  Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



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Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

2024-09-03 Thread Barbara Stahl
You're welcome thanks for the updateOn Sep 2, 2024, at 1:10 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Thanks Barbara, I passed your message along to the NLS download folks and here is their reply:Hello Richard, Quite a few people have requested that it be possible to map the iPhone’s built-in Rewind and Fast Forward controls to Rewind and Fast Forward rather than Previous and Next. I’m copying NLS staff on this message to make sure the suggestion gets added to the list of possible enhancements for a future version of BARD Mobile. IN a response on the Bluetooth headphones question, they are working on fixing it for the next BARDMobile release for headphones that currently do not work for stopping the audio books. Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara StahlSent: Monday, September 2, 2024 8:34 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple I have several from different brands that work.  They are Pioneer, boes,  something like lux or something like that and J Lab studios.  All of these allow me to start and stop playing bard books using the buttons on the headphones.  However, what they won't do is allow me to rewind or fast forward through the book, instead, pressing these buttons skips back or forward by sections.  On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:  I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the brands.  Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00a801dafd4b%240edefc00%242c9cf400%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45DFEEDF-AF36-406A-BB13-DE3C4B0EB724%40gmail.com.



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2024-09-02 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
Thanks Barbara, I passed your message along to the NLS download folks and here 
is their reply:

Hello Richard,

 

Quite a few people have requested that it be possible to map the iPhone’s 
built-in Rewind and Fast Forward controls to Rewind and Fast Forward rather 
than Previous and Next. I’m copying NLS staff on this message to make sure the 
suggestion gets added to the list of possible enhancements for a future version 
of BARD Mobile.

 

IN a response on the Bluetooth headphones question, they are working on fixing 
it for the next BARDMobile release for headphones that currently do not work 
for stopping the audio books.

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARDMobile app and bluetooth headphones that are not made by Apple

 

I have several from different brands that work.  They are Pioneer, boes,  
something like lux or something like that and J Lab studios.  All of these 
allow me to start and stop playing bard books using the buttons on the 
headphones.  However, what they won't do is allow me to rewind or fast forward 
through the book, instead, pressing these buttons skips back or forward by 
sections.  





On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



 

 

I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause 
BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.

The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a 
few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the 
brands.  

Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD 
audio book?  If so, which brand and model?

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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2024-09-02 Thread Barbara Stahl
I have several from different brands that work.  They are Pioneer, boes,  something like lux or something like that and J Lab studios.  All of these allow me to start and stop playing bard books using the buttons on the headphones.  However, what they won't do is allow me to rewind or fast forward through the book, instead, pressing these buttons skips back or forward by sections.  On Sep 2, 2024, at 11:16 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:  I’ve written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won’t pause BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure of the brands.  Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?   Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



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2024-09-02 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
 

 

I've written NLS again about how some bluetooth headphones won't pause
BARDMobile books, like my Shokz OpenRun and OpenComm headphones.

The Apple brand Bluetooth headphones do work, but they also think there are
a few non Apple brand Bluetooth headphones that work but they are not sure
of the brands.  

Does anyone use a non Apple Bluetooth headphone that works for pausing a
BARD audio book?  If so, which brand and model?

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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Re: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

2024-07-29 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
And, if it is a busy thread, it will be lost in the mix. I often delete threads with a bunch of messages when I am done with the intial thread. Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Jul 29, 2024, at 12:31 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:




Hi Richard, this is why whenever I change septic lines, I put the word was in front of the last subject. That way everybody knows that I'm modifying a little bit. But still staying a little bit on topic.


On Jul 29, 2024, at 12:27 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:

To
 add to Sieghard's message, for those of us who use threading on the iPhone, when you simply hit reply and change the subject, the message still shows up in the thread of the original subject. So, for me, I wouldn't have even seen the message because I was
 deleting the messages about iCloud mail because I do not use it. 

I only opened this one because it was from Sieghard and I figured he had something useful to add. Which, of course he did. Always start a new email with your own subject line when it is not about the previous subject.. . 







Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised



My web site: https://www.turner42.com


(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 




On Jul 29, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:








Hello Alison,
 
If you want to ask a question, can you please start a new message instead of simply replying to an existing message and changing the subject.
This is the second topic now where you highjacked the message thread about iCloud mail and deleted the subject and replace it with your own.
This is considered a No-No on mailing lists and is very bad form.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
 Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth issues with my iPhone


 
Recently, after listening to my iPhone via the Bluetooth headphones or Ibuds, my iPhone goes silent, although can still be used via the bluetoothheadphones.
I have to tell Siri to switch Bluetooth off and then back on in order to resume normal service.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Alison
 
 


From: 'Debby
 Hill' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?


 
Hi Malcolm,
 
My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was talking about iMessage, but when
 I finally, got her thinking email, she said that there is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an idea of when the problem will be solved.
 
Debby
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On
 Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?


 
That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.


 


On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:

 


Hi Malcolm,


 


I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having the exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email settings, but so far, I haven’t found
 any problems. I have also had her send email to two of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.


 


Debby


 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On
 Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud mail question?




 


Hello,


 


I wonder if anyone can assist me here.


 


A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud mail without success.


 


We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  We are unable to receive any of the
 messages that we have sent to a variety of e-mail services including my own domain.


 


On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders although they never arrive.  We get
 no error messages either.


 


On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.


 


 


Any thoughts welcome.


 


Malcolm Parfitt


 


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Re: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

2024-07-29 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Richard, this is why whenever I change septic lines, I put the word was in 
front of the last subject. That way everybody knows that I'm modifying a little 
bit. But still staying a little bit on topic.

On Jul 29, 2024, at 12:27 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

To add to Sieghard's message, for those of us who use threading on the iPhone, 
when you simply hit reply and change the subject, the message still shows up in 
the thread of the original subject. So, for me, I wouldn't have even seen the 
message because I was deleting the messages about iCloud mail because I do not 
use it.
I only opened this one because it was from Sieghard and I figured he had 
something useful to add. Which, of course he did. Always start a new email with 
your own subject line when it is not about the previous subject.. .



Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...
SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro)


On Jul 29, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hello Alison,

If you want to ask a question, can you please start a new message instead of 
simply replying to an existing message and changing the subject.
This is the second topic now where you highjacked the message thread about 
iCloud mail and deleted the subject and replace it with your own.
This is considered a No-No on mailing lists and is very bad form.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

Recently, after listening to my iPhone via the Bluetooth headphones or Ibuds, 
my iPhone goes silent, although can still be used via the bluetoothheadphones.
I have to tell Siri to switch Bluetooth off and then back on in order to resume 
normal service.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Alison


From: 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?

Hi Malcolm,

My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all 
afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was 
talking about iMessage, but when I finally, got her thinking email, she said 
that there is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an 
idea of when the problem will be solved.

Debby

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?

That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.

On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having the 
exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email 
settings, but so far, I haven’t found any problems. I have also had her send 
email to two of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they 
are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud mail question?

Hello,

I wonder if anyone can assist me here.

A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud mail 
without success.

We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  We are 
unable to receive any of the messages that we have sent to a variety of e-mail 
services including my own domain.

On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders although 
they never arrive.  We get no error messages either.

On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.


Any thoughts welcome.

Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

2024-07-29 Thread 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone
To add to Sieghard's message, for those of us who use threading on the iPhone, when you simply hit reply and change the subject, the message still shows up in the thread of the original subject. So, for me, I wouldn't have even seen the message because I was deleting the messages about iCloud mail because I do not use it. I only opened this one because it was from Sieghard and I figured he had something useful to add. Which, of course he did. Always start a new email with your own subject line when it is not about the previous subject.. . Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Jul 29, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:









Hello Alison,
 
If you want to ask a question, can you please start a new message instead of simply replying to an existing message and changing the subject.
This is the second topic now where you highjacked the message thread about iCloud mail and deleted the subject and replace it with your own.
This is considered a No-No on mailing lists and is very bad form.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth issues with my iPhone


 
Recently, after listening to my iPhone via the Bluetooth headphones or Ibuds, my iPhone goes silent, although can still be used via the bluetoothheadphones.

I have to tell Siri to switch Bluetooth off and then back on in order to resume normal service.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Alison
 
 


From: 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 

Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?


 
Hi Malcolm,
 
My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was talking about iMessage, but when I finally, got her thinking email, she said that there
 is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an idea of when the problem will be solved.
 
Debby
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?


 
That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.

 


On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 


Hi Malcolm,


 


I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having the exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email settings, but so far, I haven’t found any problems. I have also had her send email to two
 of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.


 


Debby


 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On
 Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud mail question?




 


Hello,


 


I wonder if anyone can assist me here.


 


A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud mail without success.


 


We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  We are unable to receive any of the messages that we have sent to a variety of e-mail services
 including my own domain.


 


On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders although they never arrive.  We get no error messages either.


 


On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.


 


 


Any thoughts welcome.


 


Malcolm Parfitt


 


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RE: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

2024-07-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Alison,

If you want to ask a question, can you please start a new message instead of 
simply replying to an existing message and changing the subject.
This is the second topic now where you highjacked the message thread about 
iCloud mail and deleted the subject and replace it with your own.
This is considered a No-No on mailing lists and is very bad form.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

Recently, after listening to my iPhone via the Bluetooth headphones or Ibuds, 
my iPhone goes silent, although can still be used via the bluetoothheadphones.
I have to tell Siri to switch Bluetooth off and then back on in order to resume 
normal service.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Alison


From: 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?

Hi Malcolm,

My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all 
afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was 
talking about iMessage, but when I finally, got her thinking email, she said 
that there is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an 
idea of when the problem will be solved.

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?

That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.

On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Malcolm,

I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having the 
exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email 
settings, but so far, I haven’t found any problems. I have also had her send 
email to two of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they 
are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iCloud mail question?

Hello,

I wonder if anyone can assist me here.

A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud mail 
without success.

We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  We are 
unable to receive any of the messages that we have sent to a variety of e-mail 
services including my own domain.

On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders although 
they never arrive.  We get no error messages either.

On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.


Any thoughts welcome.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: bluetooth issues with my iPhone

2024-07-28 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Recently, after listening to my iPhone via the Bluetooth headphones or Ibuds, 
my iPhone goes silent, although can still be used via the bluetoothheadphones. 

I have to tell Siri to switch Bluetooth off and then back on in order to resume 
normal service.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Alison

 

From: 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iCloud mail question?

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

My friend has not been able to send email from her iCloud account all 
afternoon. So I finally called Apple support. At first the agent thought I was 
talking about iMessage, but when I finally, got her thinking email, she said 
that there is an ongoing problem with the iCloud email. She did not have an 
idea of when the problem will be solved.

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: iCloud mail question?

 

That’s very strange. I just used that email about an hour ago and had no issues.

 

On Jul 28, 2024, at 2:16 PM, 'Debby Hill' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

I have been working hard this afternoon to help a friend who is having the 
exact same problem. I thought something got broken in her outlook email 
settings, but so far, I haven’t found any problems. I have also had her send 
email to two of my email addresses, and they don’t arrive. She said that they 
are in her sent folder. If I hear anything about it, I will let you know.

 

Debby

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:10 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iCloud mail question?

 

Hello,

 

I wonder if anyone can assist me here.

 

A friend of mine and I have been trying to send messages via our iCloud mail 
without success.

 

We have tried Outlook for Windows, our iPhones and iCloud’s website.  We are 
unable to receive any of the messages that we have sent to a variety of e-mail 
services including my own domain.

 

On the iPhones and Outlook messages are in the sent messages folders although 
they never arrive.  We get no error messages either.

 

On the iCloud website it states that all systems are operational.

 

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

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RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I assume it will be available not so much further down the road considering 
it's been in Beta for some time now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

Hello Sieghard,
Unfortunately, the iPad beta version is locked. It says that it is full and no 
longer takes new testers.
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad


On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", 
but it is in Beta, see the below article:



iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do 
it<https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr>



Best regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users



No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad



> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland 
> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Cris Ali

> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>

> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.

> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>

>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland 
>> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Cris,

>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>> Of Cris Ali

>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>>

>> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
>> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
>> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
>> an iPhone or with an iPad?

>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>>

>>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
>>>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a

>>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware

>>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.

>>> - Original Message -

>>> From: "Cris Ali" mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>

>>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM

>>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

>>>

>>>

>>> Hello dear listers,

>>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no

>>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users 
>>> on that list.

>>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.

>>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.

>>> Should I keep

Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Both.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Kramlinger
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users


  Thank you very much for these.
  This is probably a very silly question. Do these keyboard commands for 
voiceover work for Bluetooth keyboards connected to an iPhone, a Mac, or 
both?
  Thanks in advance. Keith




On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:



Voiceover iPhone keyboard commands

http://www.wrighthere.net/Voiceover_iPhone_keyboard_commands.txt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users


  That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad 
"yet", but it is in Beta, see the below article:



  iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to 
do it



  Best regards,

  Sieghard



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users



  No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it 
using a browser like Safari.

  Follow me on X @ibnalbalad



  > On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland  
wrote:

  >

  > I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the 
layout might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being 
used on a larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume 
you use the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate 
WhatsApp on the iPhone.

  >

  > -Original Message-

  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of

  > Cris Ali

  > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  > Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

  >

  > Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

  > I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an 
iPad can be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you 
tried using the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the 
chronology of chats very confusing.

  > Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

  >

  >> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland  
wrote:

  >>

  >> Hi Cris,

  >> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite 
extensively. I have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I 
have been fine. Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone 
or iPad, I use it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people 
to use an iPad since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more 
screen real estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low 
vision folks so that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing 
with zooming in and out.

  >>

  >> -Original Message-

  >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf

  >> Of Cris Ali

  >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM

  >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  >> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

  >>

  >> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard 
setting today to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is 
turned off. Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did 
you use on an iPhone or with an iPad?

  >> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

  >>

  >>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:

  >>>

  >>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using 
a

  >>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware

  >>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.

  >>> - Original Message -

  >>> From: "Cris Ali" 

  >>> To: 

  >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM

  >>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

  >>>

  >>>

  >>> Hello dear listers,

  >>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no

  >>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth 
keyboard users on that list.

  >>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.

  >>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.

  >>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under 
settings,

  >>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are

RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Richard Turner
OK, thanks to Cris Ali for pointing out a couple things I missed on my list of 
gestures and keyboard commands.

They are updated now.

They are on the main page of my web site.

https://www.turner42.com

 

I don’t have time right now, but I need to add info about the unique iPad 
commands.

I know some have to do with the split screen things but that will be another 
day.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users

 

There might be a slight variation between the Mac and iPhone.  Ipad commands 
are pretty much the same as on the iPhone except there are a couple extra for 
things that are unique to the iPad.

I will have to go through my list to find that spot where I give the 
differences.

But, note, that the keyboard commands referred to at the link in this message 
are for the Apple brand keyboards and ones with the FN key.

For example, the screen curtain on and off is shown as:

VO-Fn-Hyphen (or VO-Globe key-Hyphen, depending on your keyboard)

Well, the Globe key as far as I know is only on Apple brand keyboards.

My logitech keyboard doesn’t have that.

But it does have an FN key in an awkward place but VO+FN+f11 does toggle screen 
curtain.

I had had issues before, but it is working now.  I need to update my list.

Also, all keyboard commands can be customized if you don’t like the default 
ones.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Keith Kramlinger
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

 

Thank you very much for these.

This is probably a very silly question. Do these keyboard commands for 
voiceover work for Bluetooth keyboards connected to an iPhone, a Mac, or both?

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

 

On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Voiceover iPhone keyboard commands

 

http://www.wrighthere.net/Voiceover_iPhone_keyboard_commands.txt

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:33 AM

Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users

 

That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", 
but it is in Beta, see the below article:

 

iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do it 
<https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr>
 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

 

No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

 

> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland < <mailto:eila...@gmail.com> 
> eila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.

> 

> -Original Message-

> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 

> Cris Ali

> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

> 

> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.

> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> 

>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland < <m

RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Richard Turner
There might be a slight variation between the Mac and iPhone.  Ipad commands 
are pretty much the same as on the iPhone except there are a couple extra for 
things that are unique to the iPad.

I will have to go through my list to find that spot where I give the 
differences.

But, note, that the keyboard commands referred to at the link in this message 
are for the Apple brand keyboards and ones with the FN key.

For example, the screen curtain on and off is shown as:

VO-Fn-Hyphen (or VO-Globe key-Hyphen, depending on your keyboard)

Well, the Globe key as far as I know is only on Apple brand keyboards.

My logitech keyboard doesn’t have that.

But it does have an FN key in an awkward place but VO+FN+f11 does toggle screen 
curtain.

I had had issues before, but it is working now.  I need to update my list.

Also, all keyboard commands can be customized if you don’t like the default 
ones.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

 

Thank you very much for these.

This is probably a very silly question. Do these keyboard commands for 
voiceover work for Bluetooth keyboards connected to an iPhone, a Mac, or both?

Thanks in advance. Keith

 





On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Voiceover iPhone keyboard commands

 

http://www.wrighthere.net/Voiceover_iPhone_keyboard_commands.txt

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:33 AM

Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users

 

That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", 
but it is in Beta, see the below article:

 

iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do it 
<https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr>
 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

 

No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

 

> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland < <mailto:eila...@gmail.com> 
> eila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.

> 

> -Original Message-

> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 

> Cris Ali

> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

> 

> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.

> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> 

>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland < <mailto:eila...@gmail.com> 
>> eila...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi Cris,

>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com <

Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Cris Ali
Hello Sieghard,
Unfortunately, the iPad beta version is locked. It says that it is full and no 
longer takes new testers.
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", 
but it is in Beta, see the below article:



iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do 
it<https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr>



Best regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users



No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad



> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland 
> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Cris Ali

> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>

> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.

> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>

>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland 
>> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Cris,

>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>> Of Cris Ali

>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>>

>> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
>> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
>> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
>> an iPhone or with an iPad?

>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>>

>>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
>>>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a

>>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware

>>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.

>>> - Original Message -

>>> From: "Cris Ali" mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>

>>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM

>>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

>>>

>>>

>>> Hello dear listers,

>>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no

>>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users 
>>> on that list.

>>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.

>>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.

>>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings,

>>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the

>>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on

>>> when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend

Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Keith Kramlinger
Thank you very much for these.
This is probably a very silly question. Do these keyboard commands for 
voiceover work for Bluetooth keyboards connected to an iPhone, a Mac, or both?
Thanks in advance. Keith


On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


Voiceover iPhone keyboard commands

http://www.wrighthere.net/Voiceover_iPhone_keyboard_commands.txt
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users


That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", 
but it is in Beta, see the below article:



iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do 
it<https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr>



Best regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users



No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad



> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland 
> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Cris Ali

> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>

> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.

> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>

>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland 
>> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Cris,

>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>> Of Cris Ali

>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>>

>> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
>> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
>> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
>> an iPhone or with an iPad?

>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>>

>>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
>>>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a

>>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware

>>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.

>>> - Original Message -

>>> From: "Cris Ali" mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>

>>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM

>>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

>>>

>>>

>>> Hello dear listers,

>>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no

>>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keybo

Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Voiceover iPhone keyboard commands

http://www.wrighthere.net/Voiceover_iPhone_keyboard_commands.txt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users


  That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad 
"yet", but it is in Beta, see the below article:



  iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do 
it



  Best regards,

  Sieghard



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users



  No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it 
using a browser like Safari.

  Follow me on X @ibnalbalad



  > On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:

  >

  > I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp 
on the iPhone.

  >

  > -Original Message-

  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of

  > Cris Ali

  > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  > Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

  >

  > Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

  > I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad 
can be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried 
using the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of 
chats very confusing.

  > Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

  >

  >> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:

  >>

  >> Hi Cris,

  >> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. 
I have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been 
fine. Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, 
I use it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an 
iPad since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen 
real estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks 
so that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming 
in and out.

  >>

  >> -Original Message-

  >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf

  >> Of Cris Ali

  >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM

  >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  >> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

  >>

  >> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting 
today to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned 
off. Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you 
use on an iPhone or with an iPad?

  >> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

  >>

  >>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:

  >>>

  >>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a

  >>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware

  >>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.

  >>> - Original Message -

  >>> From: "Cris Ali" 

  >>> To: 

  >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM

  >>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

  >>>

  >>>

  >>> Hello dear listers,

  >>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no

  >>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard 
users on that list.

  >>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.

  >>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.

  >>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings,

  >>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the

  >>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on

  >>> when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?

  >>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.

  >>> Cheers,

  >>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

  >>>

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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Joseph hudson
Hello, I hadn't seen your message. But there are some Bluetooth keyboard users 
on that list. May not be one of them. But I know that there are a couple on 
there. And I'm sorry that you haven't gotten a reply. I will see that you could 
read the setting the way it is and see how it works for you. And if you feel 
the need to change it, ch, just try both ways and see what works best for you.

> On Jun 25, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello dear listers,
> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or 
> comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list. 
> Hopefully I will be luckier here. 
> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I 
> keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,, 
> full keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of  
> keeping this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which 
> setting do you recommend? 
> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
> Cheers,
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", 
but it is in Beta, see the below article:



iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do 
it<https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr>



Best regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users



No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.

Follow me on X @ibnalbalad



> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland 
> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Cris Ali

> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>

> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.

> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.

> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>

>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland 
>> mailto:eila...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Cris,

>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>> Of Cris Ali

>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

>>

>> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
>> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
>> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
>> an iPhone or with an iPad?

>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>>

>>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
>>>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a

>>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware

>>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.

>>> - Original Message -

>>> From: "Cris Ali" mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>

>>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM

>>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

>>>

>>>

>>> Hello dear listers,

>>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no

>>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users 
>>> on that list.

>>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.

>>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.

>>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings,

>>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the

>>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on

>>> when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?

>>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.

>>> Cheers,

>>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

>>>

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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Both. I rarely ever touch the screen with my hands.
- Original Message - 
From: "Cris Ali" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users


Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
an iPhone or with an iPad?
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
>
> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a BT
> keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware keyboard
> feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cris Ali" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
>
>
> Hello dear listers,
> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or
> comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that 
> list.
> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I
> keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, 
> accessibility,,
> full keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages 
> of
> keeping this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which
> setting do you recommend?
> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
> Cheers,
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
>
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RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Mario Eiland
You stated,
"I am wondering if you tried using
the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad."

So, you're referring to the WhatsApp on the web?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
> 
> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.
> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Cris,
>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users
>> 
>> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
>> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
>> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
>> an iPhone or with an iPad?
>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a 
>>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware 
>>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Cris Ali" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
>>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello dear listers,
>>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no 
>>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users 
>>> on that list.
>>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
>>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.
>>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, 
>>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the 
>>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on 
>>> when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?
>>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
>>> 
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Cris Ali
No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a 
browser like Safari.
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
> 
> I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout 
> might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a 
> larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use 
> the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on 
> the iPhone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.
> I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can 
> be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using 
> the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats 
> very confusing.
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Cris,
>> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
>> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
>> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
>> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
>> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
>> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
>> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
>> and out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Cris Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users
>> 
>> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
>> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. 
>> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on 
>> an iPhone or with an iPad?
>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a
>>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware
>>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Cris Ali" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
>>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello dear listers,
>>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no
>>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users 
>>> on that list.
>>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
>>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.
>>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings,
>>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the
>>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on when
>>> using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?
>>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, everyone, I also use a Bluetooth keyboard from Apple. I really like it a 
lot. I hope you all have a fabulous day! Esther.
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a BT
> keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware keyboard
> feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cris Ali" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> 
> Hello dear listers,
> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or
> comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list.
> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I
> keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,,
> full keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of
> keeping this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which
> setting do you recommend?
> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
> Cheers,
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Mario Eiland
I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout might 
be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a larger 
screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use the iPhone 
version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on the iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.
I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can be 
a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using the 
desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats very 
confusing.
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cris,
> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
> and out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. Since 
> you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on an 
> iPhone or with an iPad?
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a 
>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware 
>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cris Ali" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
>> 
>> 
>> Hello dear listers,
>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no 
>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on 
>> that list.
>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.
>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, 
>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the 
>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on when 
>> using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?
>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
>> Cheers,
>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Cris Ali
Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name.
I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can be 
a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using the 
desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats very 
confusing.
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cris,
> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I 
> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use 
> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad 
> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real 
> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so 
> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in 
> and out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today 
> to  try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. Since 
> you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on an 
> iPhone or with an iPad?
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a BT
>> keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware keyboard
>> feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "Cris Ali" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
>> 
>> 
>> Hello dear listers,
>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies
>> or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that 
>> list.
>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad.
>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings,
>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the
>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on when
>> using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?
>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
>> Cheers,
>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-26 Thread Mario Eiland
Hi Cris,
I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I have 
never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. 
Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use it 
with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad since 
it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real estate when 
navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so that they can 
take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in and out.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users

Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today to  
try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. Since you 
have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on an iPhone or 
with an iPad?
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a BT 
> keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware keyboard 
> feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cris Ali" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> 
> Hello dear listers,
> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies 
> or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that 
> list.
> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. 
> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, 
> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the 
> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on when 
> using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you recommend?
> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
> Cheers,
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-25 Thread Cris Ali
Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today to  
try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. Since you 
have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on an iPhone or 
with an iPad?
Follow me on X @ibnalbalad

> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a BT
> keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware keyboard
> feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cris Ali" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> 
> Hello dear listers,
> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or
> comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list.
> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I
> keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,,
> full keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of
> keeping this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which
> setting do you recommend?
> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
> Cheers,
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-25 Thread Robert Doc Wright
It is going to be based on what you get use to.  I've been using a BT 
keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware keyboard 
feature but found it too cumbersome for me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Cris Ali" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM
Subject: A question for Bluetooth users


Hello dear listers,
I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or 
comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list. 
Hopefully I will be luckier here.
I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I 
keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,, 
full keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of 
keeping this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which 
setting do you recommend?
I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
Cheers,
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-25 Thread Jonathan Cohn
It appears to be a feature for people wit mobility issues.
It uses the tab key as a modifier and allow one to perform actions with just 
the keyboard. 
I expect that 98% of VO users would not like this if the video attached is 
correctly describing the  process.

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2021/10120/ 
<https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2021/10120/>


> On Jun 25, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mario,
> Thanks a lot for the link. This link gives the keyboard shortcuts for a 
> regular user, not for the keyboard shortcuts with VoiceOver.
> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I found this page on the web describing your inquiry.
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-iphone-with-an-external-keyboard-ipha4375873f/ios#:~:text=If%20you%20use%20Magic%20Keyboard,the%20screen%20that%20has%20focus.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
>> Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 11:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
>> 
>> Hello dear listers,
>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or 
>> comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list. 
>> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I 
>> keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,, 
>> full keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of  
>> keeping this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which 
>> setting do you recommend?
>> I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
>> Cheers,
>> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad
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Re: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-25 Thread Cris Ali
Hello Mario,
Thanks a lot for the link. This link gives the keyboard shortcuts for a regular 
user, not for the keyboard shortcuts with VoiceOver.
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> On Jun 25, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I found this page on the web describing your inquiry.
> https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-iphone-with-an-external-keyboard-ipha4375873f/ios#:~:text=If%20you%20use%20Magic%20Keyboard,the%20screen%20that%20has%20focus.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 11:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users
> 
> Hello dear listers,
> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or 
> comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list. 
> Hopefully I will be luckier here.
> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I 
> keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,, 
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RE: A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-25 Thread Mario Eiland
Hi,
I found this page on the web describing your inquiry.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/control-iphone-with-an-external-keyboard-ipha4375873f/ios#:~:text=If%20you%20use%20Magic%20Keyboard,the%20screen%20that%20has%20focus.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A question for Bluetooth users

Hello dear listers,
I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or 
comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list. 
Hopefully I will be luckier here. 
I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I keep 
the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,, full 
keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of  keeping 
this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you 
recommend? 
I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
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A question for Bluetooth users

2024-06-25 Thread Cris Ali
Hello dear listers,
I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no replies or 
comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users on that list. 
Hopefully I will be luckier here. 
I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. Should I keep 
the full keyboard access setting found under settings, accessibility,, full 
keyboard access on or off? What are the advantages or disadvantages of  keeping 
this setting to off or on when using a bluetooth keyboard? Which setting do you 
recommend? 
I would appreciate your suggestions and help.
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RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-13 Thread Dennis Long
In order for proper testing to be done I and others would need specific 
examples where it fails.  Example when sending a voice message in WhatsApp it 
fails.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Manan 
Trivedi
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Thanks Dennis for your help. Thank you others as well for responding. The 
command VO shift space works most of the time. Sometimes, however, I receive an 
error that says, “message failed to send” or something similar to that. May be 
problem is with my keyboard because, as I said,  the command does not fail all 
the times. 
 
Sent from my iPhone



On May 8, 2024, at 10:04 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hear is the correct answer.  .
1 position the VoiceOver cursor on the voice message button
2 press and hold VO shift space
3 if you hold this for 2 or 3 seconds, the voice message button will lock in 
the recording position.
4 talk all you want and then either press VO space or double tap on the voice 
message button.
Note I’m a keyboard user.  If you have any more questions you can email me at
dennisl1...@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Manan Trivedi
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-12 Thread Manan Trivedi
Thanks Dennis for your help. Thank you others as well for responding. The command VO shift space works most of the time. Sometimes, however, I receive an error that says, “message failed to send” or something similar to that. May be problem is with my keyboard because, as I said,  the command does not fail all the times. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 10:04 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hear is the correct answer.  .1 position the VoiceOver cursor on the voice message button2 press and hold VO shift space3 if you hold this for 2 or 3 seconds, the voice message button will lock in the recording position.4 talk all you want and then either press VO space or double tap on the voice message button.Note I’m a keyboard user.  If you have any more questions you can email me atdennisl1...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Manan TrivediSent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:17 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution. Thanks MT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:  That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of 00353. On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On Behalf Of David GoldfieldSent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AMSubject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PMHow to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Mapsby Joe LonerganDetailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?Open Google MapsNavigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.While in here go to Settings.Now go to NavigationFlick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice Guidance and turn it onWe love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information and gives the user more freedom and confidence.If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/   David Goldfield,Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training services by visitingWWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com Am Yisrael ChaiThe Nation of Israel Lives! JAWS Certified, 2022NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.iowww.DavidGoldfield.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegr

Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-12 Thread Eiret
Yep, here is an another one that may work: go to settings app > accessability > voiceover > commands > all commands. You will find it somewhere on the all commands tree. Don't remember exactly.Eiret9. mai 2024 kl. 06:05 skrev Dennis Long :The command is vo shift space.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan CohnSent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:28 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard Well, first thing to do is discover what command that is being run.Press capslock k to bring up help mode. Then try the command.Once you discover the command “Perform long press” in this case, you can assign it to a keystroke in the voiceover settings or try and discover the  default keystroke. This is one place where Mac VoiceOver is superior to IOS in that VO+HH lets you search all VO commands and will list an assigned key for that action. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi <manantrivedi...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution. Thanks MT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:  That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of 00353. On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  >From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On Behalf Of David GoldfieldSent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AMSubject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PMHow to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Mapsby Joe LonerganDetailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?Open Google MapsNavigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.While in here go to Settings.Now go to NavigationFlick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice Guidance and turn it onWe love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information and gives the user more freedom and confidence.If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/   David Goldfield,Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training services by visitingWWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com Am Yisrael ChaiThe Nation of Israel Lives! JAWS Certified, 2022NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.iowww.DavidGoldfield.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searc

RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Dennis Long
The command is vo shift space.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Well, first thing to do is discover what command that is being run.
Press capslock k to bring up help mode. Then try the command.
Once you discover the command “Perform long press” in this case, you can assign 
it to a keystroke in the voiceover settings or try and discover the  default 
keystroke.
 
This is one place where Mac VoiceOver is superior to IOS in that VO+HH lets you 
search all VO commands and will list an assigned key for that action.
 
Sent from my iPhone



On May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi mailto:manantrivedi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
services by visiting
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RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Dennis Long
Hear is the correct answer.  .
1 position the VoiceOver cursor on the voice message button
2 press and hold VO shift space
3 if you hold this for 2 or 3 seconds, the voice message button will lock in 
the recording position.
4 talk all you want and then either press VO space or double tap on the voice 
message button.
Note I’m a keyboard user.  If you have any more questions you can email me at
dennisl1...@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Manan 
Trivedi
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
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Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
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RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Dennis Long
Joshua that won’t help him.  I’m provide the proper command shortly
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Hello. On the hable one bluetooth braille keyboard, I press and hold dots 1-5. 
This works very well. I use it most with bard mobile.
Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!



On May 8, 2024, at 10:07 AM, Manan Trivedi mailto:manantrivedi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
services by visiting
WWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com <http://www.screenreadertraining.com/> 
 
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, first thing to do is discover what command that is being run.Press capslock k to bring up help mode. Then try the command.Once you discover the command “Perform long press” in this case, you can assign it to a keystroke in the voiceover settings or try and discover the  default keystroke.This is one place where Mac VoiceOver is superior to IOS in that VO+HH lets you search all VO commands and will list an assigned key for that action.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
  Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread William James
The only thing I found in the commands for the regular bluetooth keyboardis shift plus M.  Use the VO modifier in conjunction with that key.  Hold them down and see if that will do what you want.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
  Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive
  technology learn about my training services by visiting
WWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com
 
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hello. On the hable one bluetooth braille keyboard, I press and hold dots 1-5. This works very well. I use it most with bard mobile.Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On May 8, 2024, at 10:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
  Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive
  technology learn about my training services by visiting
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Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Manan Trivedi
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
  Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
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Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive
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Re: Can I stop VoiceOver from coming through my Bluetooth stereo speakers

2024-04-24 Thread Thomas Frank
A little clarification. You can do the same thing for any bluetooth device. I 
did a presentation and wanted Voice over to come out of my bluetooth speaker. I 
lied and selected headphone. Don’t forget to set the selection back to speaker 
when you want Voice Over to come out only through your phone. 
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Try this. Turn on your speaker with nothing playing through it. Then go into 
> settings, bluetooth, and find your speaker. Do not double tap it, just 
> one-finger swipe down on it and it should say more info. Double tap this, and 
> make sure speaker  is selected under device type. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:27 PM, Bobby Druesedow  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> As the subject line states, can I keep ghoiceover from coming out of my 
> bluetooth stereo speakers? I'd like VoiceOver to come out of my phone, and 
> the music to come out of the speakers. Is there a setting somewhere that will 
> let me do that? Thanks.
> 
> Bobby Druesedow
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Re: Can I stop VoiceOver from coming through my Bluetooth stereo speakers

2024-04-06 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Try this. Turn on your speaker with nothing playing through it. Then go into 
settings, bluetooth, and find your speaker. Do not double tap it, just 
one-finger swipe down on it and it should say more info. Double tap this, and 
make sure speaker  is selected under device type. 

Arnold Schmidt 
 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

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Hello:
As the subject line states, can I keep ghoiceover from coming out of my 
bluetooth stereo speakers? I'd like VoiceOver to come out of my phone, and the 
music to come out of the speakers. Is there a setting somewhere that will let 
me do that? Thanks.

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Can I stop VoiceOver from coming through my Bluetooth stereo speakers

2024-04-06 Thread Bobby Druesedow
Hello:
As the subject line states, can I keep ghoiceover from coming out of my 
bluetooth stereo speakers? I'd like VoiceOver to come out of my phone, and the 
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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

2024-03-25 Thread CJ & AA MAY
I re-started the phone and it return to portrait mode, thank goodness.

My iPhone has certainly been challenging me this past couple of days.

Alison

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I'm pretty sure you can find lock screen rotation in the control center, see if 
that works

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 5:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my 
iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get 
it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.

Any ideas?

Alison

 

 

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Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

2024-03-25 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Thanks for your help, Chuck. I’ve done what you suggested and now have 
everything working as normal although had a few quirks along the way. I won’t 
be conneting my Focus Blue again to my iPhone.

Alison

 

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I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

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I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

2024-03-25 Thread Chuck Adkins
I'm pretty sure you can find lock screen rotation in the control center, see if that worksSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 5:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.Any ideas?Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck AdkinsSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had  On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> wrote:I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only my Focus Blue Notetaker.I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to work on my iPhone.I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have any other ideas?Alison-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/007501da7e45%241ad5bfb0%2450813f10%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJhNHTp1NHkA-Jp-oyiVVqOdqi-kQ%2BiA0oTJu%2B6uiOaFE6wmpg%40mail.gmail.com.



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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

2024-03-25 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my 
iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get 
it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.

Any ideas?

Alison

 

 

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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

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I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
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Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

2024-03-24 Thread Chuck Adkins
I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn
it off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the
device. Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned
Bluetooth back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that
would work for you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to
me. I have other displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the
Bluetooth does, or at least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY  wrote:

> I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks
> has happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.
>
> But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment,
> none of my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the
> devices listed in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them
> are available, only my Focus Blue Notetaker.
>
> I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the
> Focus Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices
> refuse to work on my iPhone.
>
> I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone
> have any other ideas?
>
> Alison
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RE: unable to use any of my Bluetooth devices with my iPhone

2024-03-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you haven't tried this already, empty the App Switcher and restart your 
iPhone. Also, try forgetting one of those Bluetooth devices to see if you can 
then pair it up again. If you've tried that, and you're getting desperate, 
reset all network settings to see if that does the rick. You'll need to pair 
all of your Bluetooth devices again.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 6:44 PM
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Subject: RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.
But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.
I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone's settings and also in the Focus 
Blue's Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.
I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?
Alison
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