Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-23 Thread lenron brown
I see nothing wrong with getting the two year old device. If it works
for you why not. Maybe this is your device you want to hold you over
until your next big upgrade. If the price is right and it does what
you need it to, hey make it work. I have the 12 pro max, and I see no
reason to upgrade right now. I mean I kind of want to upgrade just
because I don't have apple care but that's it. Hoping something big
comes next year, if not I may wait until the 16 and find some other
tech toy to hold me over until I am ready for a phone upgrade.

On 10/23/22, bentleyj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> If I was considering a 2 year old phone, I might take a look at a
> refurbished phone from a well known source like Apple.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> I don't like disagreeing with Sieghard, and I'm not really disagreeing, but
> I'd have no problem recommending a two year old phone or even older. If the
> person realizes that they'll be getting that many fewer updates then it's
> just a decision on whether the money they're saving is worth the shortened
> life span or not.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not
> recommend somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
> I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than
> mind blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand
> why people who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far
> as that goes I think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro
> instead of a regular iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many
> times, the processor in the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor
> which is in all the iPhone 13 models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least
> get LiDAR which allows you to use door detection and whatever other things
> developers may dream up which can use this sensor.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia
> Struve
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone
> 12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with
> their iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not
> get an iPhone 12 or would it matter.
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That
>> does make a difference in my choice.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
>>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>>>
>>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden
>>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a
>>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>>>
>>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them
>>>> before I decide.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other
>>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do
>>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big
>>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>>>
>>>> Evan
>>>> On 10/21/

RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-23 Thread bentleyj1952
If I was considering a 2 year old phone, I might take a look at a refurbished 
phone from a well known source like Apple.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

I don't like disagreeing with Sieghard, and I'm not really disagreeing, but I'd 
have no problem recommending a two year old phone or even older. If the person 
realizes that they'll be getting that many fewer updates then it's just a 
decision on whether the money they're saving is worth the shortened life span 
or not.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not recommend 
somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than mind 
blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand why people 
who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far as that goes I 
think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro instead of a regular 
iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many times, the processor in 
the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor which is in all the iPhone 13 
models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least get LiDAR which allows you to use 
door detection and whatever other things developers may dream up which can use 
this sensor.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>>> before I decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd 
>>>> take a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could 
>>>> of course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you 
>>>> to decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
>>>> Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
>>>> that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
>>>> would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
>>>> would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
>>>> may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
>>>> unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch 

RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-23 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi Evan:

Before you purchase you might want to at least take a look at the 13 pro model. 
It's a bit larger than the mini granted, but will give you some benefits such 
as lidar. If you are planning to keep the phone a while and hope to use it to 
it's greatest potential, the lidar feature is certainly worth having.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: October 21, 2022 12:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Alan

,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip at the 
end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then for sure.

I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if I'm 
going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get a really 
nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, particularly since I 
hope to be using it for a good while, given that these things are not cheap.

I'll let you know what I get.

Evan



On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> Hi Evan,
>
> Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus 
> the iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was 
> the SE 2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 
> and 8 and while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its 
> physical form factor is actually a bit smaller.
>
> I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be 
> obsolete but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can 
> say that I really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing it.
>
> Good luck with your decision.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Larry,
>>
>> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
>> smallest iPhones.
>>
>> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
>> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
>>
>> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
>> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
>>
>> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
>> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
>>
>> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what 
>> I've read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen 
>> resolution too, but that doesn't matter to me.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that 
>>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told 
>>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>>
>>> Is that true?
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Evan
>>>
>>>
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't like disagreeing with Sieghard, and I'm not really disagreeing, but I'd 
have no problem recommending a two year old phone or even older. If the person 
realizes that they'll be getting that many fewer updates then it's just a 
decision on whether the money they're saving is worth the shortened life span 
or not.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not recommend 
somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than mind 
blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand why people 
who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far as that goes I 
think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro instead of a regular 
iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many times, the processor in 
the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor which is in all the iPhone 13 
models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least get LiDAR which allows you to use 
door detection and whatever other things developers may dream up which can use 
this sensor.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>>> before I decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd 
>>>> take a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could 
>>>> of course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you 
>>>> to decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
>>>> Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
>>>> that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
>>>> would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
>>>> would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
>>>> may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
>>>> unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
>>>> some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
>>>> read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
>>>> record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
>>>> the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
>>>

RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And for most people 256 Gb is more than enough, I have an iPhone 11 with 64 Gb 
and use a bit more than half and currently 10 Gb are Audible books I have 
downloaded but not yet listened tto.
There are only two scenarios I can think of why you would need 512 Gb or 1 Tb 
and that is if you like to record tons of videos or if you are a digital 
hoarder like Joshua who wants to have every book downloaded to his device 
whether he reads them or not. I have a little over 1000 books in my Audible 
library and I assume that even a 1 Tb phone wouldn't be enough if I wanted to 
actually keep a downloaded copy on my phone, but I really don't care because if 
I do want to listen to a book again I just find it in my library and for the 
most part with the fiber connections many of us have nowadays it take a minute 
or less to download it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. 
That does make a difference in my choice.

Evan



On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>
> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>> sound when powered on and off.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>
>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>> before I decide.
>>
>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>
>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>> slab I have to carry around.
>>
>> Evan
>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take 
>>> a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of 
>>> course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to 
>>> decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>
>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
>>> Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
>>> that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
>>> would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
>>> would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
>>> may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
>>> unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
>>> some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
>>> read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
>>> record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
>>> the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
>>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new 
>>> iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears 
>>> that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a 
>>> Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this means it will 
>>> of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a phone without 
>>> home button from the start even though having an iPad you of course 
>>> would be used to a home button, but if this rumour about the fourth 
>>> generation SE is true then it means we will never again see an iPhone with 
>>> a home button.
>>>
>>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check 
>>> them out and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 
>>> Mini. They really are not all that much larger physically, but you 
>>> get the benefit of the LiDAR sensor which is required for features 
>>> like door detection and maybe other things in the future.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think ha

RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not recommend 
somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than mind 
blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand why people 
who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far as that goes I 
think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro instead of a regular 
iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many times, the processor in 
the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor which is in all the iPhone 13 
models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least get LiDAR which allows you to use 
door detection and whatever other things developers may dream up which can use 
this sensor.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>>> before I decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd 
>>>> take a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could 
>>>> of course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you 
>>>> to decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
>>>> Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
>>>> that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
>>>> would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
>>>> would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
>>>> may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
>>>> unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
>>>> some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
>>>> read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
>>>> record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
>>>> the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
>>>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new 
>>>> iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it 
>>>> appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple 
>>>> will put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this 
>>>> means it will of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a 
>>>> phone without home button from the start even though having an iPad 
>>>> you of course would be used to a home button, but if this rumour about the 
>>>> fourth generation SE is true

Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-22 Thread Lelia Struve
Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
>>> four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
>>> powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
>>> decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
>>> since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
>>> good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
>>> have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
>>>> look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
>>>> also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
>>>> are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
>>>> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
>>>> but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
>>>> had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
>>>> is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
>>>> with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
>>>> under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
>>>> this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
>>>> good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
>>>> about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
>>>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
>>>> may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
>>>> button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
>>>> side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
>>>> Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
>>>> even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
>>>> but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
>>>> will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
>>>> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
>>>> really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
>>>> the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
>>>> maybe other things in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
>>>> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
>>>> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
>>>> MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
>>>> have it.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> llump...@aust

Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-22 Thread Evan Reese
Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. 
That does make a difference in my choice.


Evan



On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.

On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
powered on and off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.

I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
decide.

I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
good one that will last.

Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
have to carry around.

Evan
On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:

1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
will never again see an iPhone with a home button.

2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
maybe other things in the future.

Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
have it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
me that they weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-22 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.

On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
> four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
> powered on and off.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Evan Reese
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>
> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
> decide.
>
> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
> since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
> good one that will last.
>
> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
> have to carry around.
>
> Evan
> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
>> look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
>> also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
>> are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>
>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
>> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
>> but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
>> had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
>> is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
>> with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
>> under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
>> this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
>> good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
>> about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
>> may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
>> button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
>> side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
>> Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
>> even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
>> but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
>> will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>>
>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
>> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
>> really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
>> the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
>> maybe other things in the future.
>>
>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
>> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
>> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
>> MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
>> have it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Evan Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>
>> Is that true?
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I got a 13 pro max because of the battery life.  It was much bigger
then my iPhone 8.  However, the battery life is amazing.  I don't miss
the home button at all.

On 10/21/22, Evan Reese  wrote:
> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>
> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
> decide.
>
> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other
> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do
> want to get a good one that will last.
>
> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab
> I have to carry around.
>
> Evan
> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
>> look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
>> also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
>> are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>
>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
>> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
>> but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
>> had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
>> is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
>> with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
>> under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
>> this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
>> good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
>> about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
>> may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
>> button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
>> side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
>> Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
>> even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
>> but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
>> will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>>
>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
>> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
>> really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
>> the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
>> maybe other things in the future.
>>
>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
>> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
>> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
>> MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
>> have it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Evan Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>
>> Is that true?
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Carolyn
It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door, four 
feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when powered on and 
off. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.

I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I decide.

I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand, 
since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a 
good one that will last.

Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I have 
to carry around.

Evan
On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a look 
> at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course also 
> consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here are a few 
> reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>
> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id 
> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason, but 
> personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I had to 
> decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There is also the 
> fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone with a home button 
> and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I 
> dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just read 
> an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track record with his 
> predictions, is revealing first information about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which 
> is expected to be released next spring as the new lowe cost iPhone. According 
> to that article that new iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big 
> notch, but it appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt 
> Apple will put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this means 
> it will of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a phone without 
> home button from the start even though having an iPad you of course would be 
> used to a home button, but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is 
> true then it means we will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>
> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out 
> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They really 
> are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of the LiDAR 
> sensor which is required for features like door detection and maybe other 
> things in the future.
>
> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use 
> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is 
> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has MagSafe. I 
> assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro have it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Evan Reese
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>
> Is that true?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Evan
>
>
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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Evan Reese

Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.

I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I 
decide.


I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
want to get a good one that will last.


Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab 
I have to carry around.


Evan
On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a look at 
the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course also consider 
the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here are a few reasons why 
I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:

1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id 
virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason, but 
personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I had to 
decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There is also the 
fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone with a home button 
and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I 
dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just read an 
article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track record with his 
predictions, is revealing first information about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which 
is expected to be released next spring as the new lowe cost iPhone. According 
to that article that new iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, 
but it appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple will 
put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this means it will of 
course have Face Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from 
the start even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home 
button, but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means 
we will never again see an iPhone with a home button.

2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out and 
hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They really are 
not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of the LiDAR 
sensor which is required for features like door detection and maybe other 
things in the future.

Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use MagSafe 
accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is very nice 
and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has MagSafe. I assume the 
13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro have it.

-Original Message-
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llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


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Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
As for support, I wouldn't worry too much about it, whether you buy an iPhone 
13 Mini, 13 Pro or SE third Gen, they all have the same CPU and will all be 
supported the same number of years and it will only be one year less if that 
than any of the iPhone 14 models. Most likely you'll be in the market for a new 
iPhone before support for the 13 family of phones runs out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi Evan, 

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller. 

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I 
really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing it. 

Good luck with your decision. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Larry,
> 
> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
> smallest iPhones.
> 
> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
> 
> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
> 
> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
> 
> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
> read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution 
> too, but that doesn't matter to me.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Evan Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
>> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
>> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>> 
>> Is that true?
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It is the opposite, the iPhone SE has a 4.7 inch screen and the iPhone 13 Mini 
has a 5.4 inch screen.
The reason why the Mini with it's significantly larger screen is almost not 
bigger is because it doesn't need space for the home button and the bezels 
around the screen are smaller.
The difference in physical size (length and width) is so small that it is not 
really noticeable unless  you put one on top of the other.
Both SE third Gen and 13 Mini have the same A15 processor and actually the 13 
Mini wasn't as popular or as good of a seller which is probably the main reason 
why Apple is not making a Mini any more. Of course so far it seems the 14 Plus 
is also not going to be flying off the shelves. Small phones like the SE and 
Mini seem to be a thing of the past at least for now because the next iPhone SE 
is going to have a 6.1 inch screen and will apparently be similar to the iPhone 
XR in design with no homne button.

And do not buy a regular iPhone 14, you are getting a phone which has the same 
A15 processor as the iPhone 13 family since Apple only put the new A16 
processor into the iPhone 14 Pro and pro MNax this year. You would be much 
better off with a 13 Pro over a regular 14, you get the same processor but you 
gain the liDAR sensor which is in all Pro models since the iPhone 12 Pro, but 
it is not in the regular models like the regular iPhone 12/12 Mini, 13/13 Mini 
and 14/14 Plus and neither is it in the SE. Here are the dimensions and weights 
of both the 13 Mini and 13 Pro and this comes directly from Apple's website:

iPhone 13 mini
5.18 inches tall (131.5mm)
2.53 inches wide (64.2mm)
0.30 inches thick (7.65mm)
4.94 ounces (140 grams)

iPhone 13 Pro
5.78 inches tall (146.7mm)
2.82 inches wide (71.5mm)
0.30 inches thick (7.65mm)
7.16 ounces (203 grams)

iPhone 13 Pro is larger and heavier as 13 Mini by these numbers:
Tall: 0.6 inches (15.2mm)
Wide: 0.29 inches (7.3mm)
Thickness: same
Weight: 2.22 ounces (63 grams)

In other words, the most noticeable difference would be the height/length, the 
13 Pro is just under 5/8 of an inch taller which is about as much as most 
people's pinky finger or maybe their index finger.
In width it is only a bit more than a quarter of an inch wider, if you look at 
the difference in millimeters, 7.3mm is a little less than the 7.65mm thickness 
of both the 13 Mini and 13 Pro. This means if you put a 13 Mini on top of a 13 
Pro you could stand another iPhone on edge and it would cover the difference in 
width.
The most noticeable difference is probably the weight, but as I said, you 
should really see if you can't go to an Apple store and handle both phones to 
see if the Mini is as much smaller as you think or if that size difference 
really matters to you.

---Original Message-
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Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Thanks Larry,

I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
smallest iPhones.

Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.

I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.

If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still for 
sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.

The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution too, 
but that doesn't matter to me.

Evan


On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Evan Reese
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>
> Is that true?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Evan
>
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a look at 
the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course also consider 
the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here are a few reasons why 
I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:

1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id 
virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason, but 
personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I had to 
decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There is also the 
fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone with a home button 
and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I 
dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just read an 
article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track record with his 
predictions, is revealing first information about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which 
is expected to be released next spring as the new lowe cost iPhone. According 
to that article that new iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, 
but it appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple will 
put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this means it will of 
course have Face Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from 
the start even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home 
button, but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means 
we will never again see an iPhone with a home button.

2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out and 
hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They really are 
not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of the LiDAR 
sensor which is required for features like door detection and maybe other 
things in the future.

Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use MagSafe 
accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is very nice 
and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has MagSafe. I assume the 
13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro have it.

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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


-Original Message-
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Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Evan Reese

Wow! Larry, that is pretty impressive.

Definitely worth every penny.

Evan


On 10/21/2022 1:14 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Evan, We bought smart cases for our SE3 phones. I think they're 6000 MA cases 
and recharge both through cable and wirelessly. I think we paid less than $25 
for each.

---Original Message-
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Reese
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Chris, I am used to the Home button, since I've used one on my iPad Mini 
for years. That is a point in the SE's favor.

About battery life, that is also a good point. But I'm willing to get a bit 
less battery life in exchange for the smaller size.

So it looks like I'm going to be looking at two options, the iPhone 13 Mini, 
and the iPhone SE third generation.

Once I get my hands on them, then I can make a final decision.

Thanks to all of you for some good info.

Evan


On 10/21/2022 9:16 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Just a couple more things Evan.  Keep in mind that normally in a smaller phone 
factor comes less battery life.  I would say that both phones have decent 
battery life, but nothing compared to the bigger phones.  Of coarse, battery 
life is dependent on how much the phone is used every day.  The second thing 
is, and you did not say this mattered, but the iphone SE uses touch ID and has 
a home button, and the iphone 13 uses face ID and has no home button.  Just a 
couple of things that you should keep in mind when looking at the different 
iphones.

I would say that both the iphone 13 mini and the iphone SE will work good for 
you for several years and I would guess 4 to 5 years depending on usage and how 
good the battery life holds up.

It is said, that the reason the mini is no longer in the lineup of the new 
phones is because of sales.  And I personally think that having two iphones at 
the smaller form factor is why the mini is going away.  The SE is a very 
popular model, and the SE sales is a lot more, and this is probably because the 
price of the SE is less than the mini.  So I do not think either phone is a bad 
choice.  Like anything else, it comes down to personal preference.

Chris



On Oct 20, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Alan

,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip at the 
end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then for sure.

I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if I'm 
going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get a really 
nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, particularly since I 
hope to be using it for a good while, given that these things are not cheap.

I'll let you know what I get.

Evan




On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Hi Evan,

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller.

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will
be obsolete but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. I 
can say that I really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing it.

Good luck with your decision.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Larry,

I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
smallest iPhones.

Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.

I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.

If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still for 
sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.

The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution too, 
but that doesn't matter to me.

Evan



On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread llumpkin
Evan, We bought smart cases for our SE3 phones. I think they're 6000 MA cases 
and recharge both through cable and wirelessly. I think we paid less than $25 
for each.

---Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Chris, I am used to the Home button, since I've used one on my iPad Mini 
for years. That is a point in the SE's favor.

About battery life, that is also a good point. But I'm willing to get a bit 
less battery life in exchange for the smaller size.

So it looks like I'm going to be looking at two options, the iPhone 13 Mini, 
and the iPhone SE third generation.

Once I get my hands on them, then I can make a final decision.

Thanks to all of you for some good info.

Evan


On 10/21/2022 9:16 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> Just a couple more things Evan.  Keep in mind that normally in a smaller 
> phone factor comes less battery life.  I would say that both phones have 
> decent battery life, but nothing compared to the bigger phones.  Of coarse, 
> battery life is dependent on how much the phone is used every day.  The 
> second thing is, and you did not say this mattered, but the iphone SE uses 
> touch ID and has a home button, and the iphone 13 uses face ID and has no 
> home button.  Just a couple of things that you should keep in mind when 
> looking at the different iphones.
>
> I would say that both the iphone 13 mini and the iphone SE will work good for 
> you for several years and I would guess 4 to 5 years depending on usage and 
> how good the battery life holds up.
>
> It is said, that the reason the mini is no longer in the lineup of the new 
> phones is because of sales.  And I personally think that having two iphones 
> at the smaller form factor is why the mini is going away.  The SE is a very 
> popular model, and the SE sales is a lot more, and this is probably because 
> the price of the SE is less than the mini.  So I do not think either phone is 
> a bad choice.  Like anything else, it comes down to personal preference.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alan
>>
>> ,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip at 
>> the end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then for sure.
>>
>> I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if I'm 
>> going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get a 
>> really nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, particularly 
>> since I hope to be using it for a good while, given that these things are 
>> not cheap.
>>
>> I'll let you know what I get.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>>> Hi Evan,
>>>
>>> Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus 
>>> the iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was 
>>> the SE 2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 
>>> and 8 and while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its 
>>> physical form factor is actually a bit smaller.
>>>
>>> I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will 
>>> be obsolete but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. 
>>> I can say that I really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Good luck with your decision.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>>> Thanks Larry,
>>>>
>>>> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
>>>> smallest iPhones.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
>>>> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
>>>> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
>>>>
>>>> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's 
>>>> still for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
>>>>
>>>> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what 
>>>> I've read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lo

Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Evan Reese
Thanks Chris, I am used to the Home button, since I've used one on my 
iPad Mini for years. That is a point in the SE's favor.


About battery life, that is also a good point. But I'm willing to get a 
bit less battery life in exchange for the smaller size.


So it looks like I'm going to be looking at two options, the iPhone 13 
Mini, and the iPhone SE third generation.


Once I get my hands on them, then I can make a final decision.

Thanks to all of you for some good info.

Evan


On 10/21/2022 9:16 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Just a couple more things Evan.  Keep in mind that normally in a smaller phone 
factor comes less battery life.  I would say that both phones have decent 
battery life, but nothing compared to the bigger phones.  Of coarse, battery 
life is dependent on how much the phone is used every day.  The second thing 
is, and you did not say this mattered, but the iphone SE uses touch ID and has 
a home button, and the iphone 13 uses face ID and has no home button.  Just a 
couple of things that you should keep in mind when looking at the different 
iphones.

I would say that both the iphone 13 mini and the iphone SE will work good for 
you for several years and I would guess 4 to 5 years depending on usage and how 
good the battery life holds up.

It is said, that the reason the mini is no longer in the lineup of the new 
phones is because of sales.  And I personally think that having two iphones at 
the smaller form factor is why the mini is going away.  The SE is a very 
popular model, and the SE sales is a lot more, and this is probably because the 
price of the SE is less than the mini.  So I do not think either phone is a bad 
choice.  Like anything else, it comes down to personal preference.

Chris



On Oct 20, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Alan

,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip at the 
end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then for sure.

I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if I'm 
going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get a really 
nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, particularly since I 
hope to be using it for a good while, given that these things are not cheap.

I'll let you know what I get.

Evan




On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Hi Evan,

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller.

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13
Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I really like mine and 
don't think you can go wrong choosing it.

Good luck with your decision.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Larry,

I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
smallest iPhones.

Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.

I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.

If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still for 
sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.

The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution too, 
but that doesn't matter to me.

Evan



On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Evan Reese

No Chris, you didn't miss anything.

You're absolutely right.

You make a good point.

Evan


On 10/20/2022 11:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I'm confused. What's meant by the iPhone 13 Mini becoming obsolete? I can't see 
that it won't be able to run on cell networks for years, and it'll keep getting 
IOS updates for at least as long as any other iPhone 13. This will almost 
assuredly be for just one year less than the iPhone 14 models. Apple may not 
have put out an iPhone 14 Mini but that doesn't mean they won't have something 
comparable to the Mini down the road, and it doesn’t take anything whatsoever 
away from the current iPhone 13 Mini. Unless you're looking for that extra year 
of IOS updates, I don't see any reason not to go with an iPhone 13 Mini and 
then choosing your next phone in a few years when you're ready. Who knows what 
your options will be then. Sorry if I missed the point here.

--
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Lemly
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Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi Evan,

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller.

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I 
really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing it.

Good luck with your decision.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Larry,

I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
smallest iPhones.

Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.

I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.

If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still for 
sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.

The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution too, 
but that doesn't matter to me.

Evan



On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


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Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Carolyn
The mini will last for updates as long as the other 13 models, which would be 
several years to come. 

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I'm confused. What's meant by the iPhone 13 Mini becoming obsolete? I can't see 
that it won't be able to run on cell networks for years, and it'll keep getting 
IOS updates for at least as long as any other iPhone 13. This will almost 
assuredly be for just one year less than the iPhone 14 models. Apple may not 
have put out an iPhone 14 Mini but that doesn't mean they won't have something 
comparable to the Mini down the road, and it doesn’t take anything whatsoever 
away from the current iPhone 13 Mini. Unless you're looking for that extra year 
of IOS updates, I don't see any reason not to go with an iPhone 13 Mini and 
then choosing your next phone in a few years when you're ready. Who knows what 
your options will be then. Sorry if I missed the point here.

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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi Evan, 

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller. 

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I 
really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing it. 

Good luck with your decision. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Larry,
> 
> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
> smallest iPhones.
> 
> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
> 
> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
> 
> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
> 
> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
> read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution 
> too, but that doesn't matter to me.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
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>> Of Evan Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
>> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
>> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>> 
>> Is that true?
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Carolyn
Right now, they are not making newer models of the mini, but once, they were 
not making more SE phones either. 

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Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Carolyn
I kind of wonder if you'd want a 13 Mini. It has no Home Button. An SE3 does 
have a Home Button, but you might want more battery. Now, whether or not the 
mini has more battery, I don't know, but someone on the list probably does know 
that information. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I'm familiar with iOS. I've been using an iPad Mini for over six years. 
I've never owned an iPhone yet though, and I'm now looking for one to buy.

Even though I'm familiar with iOS, I'm not familiar with specific iPhone 
models, and I'm in the market for one.

I want a small one. My manual dexterity is good, so I'm sure I can use it.  But 
I don't want to sacrifice power or memory.

Could people tell me which models I should be looking for that are on the 
smaller side?

Assume price is no object. I'm not saying that I'm gonna buy the most expensive 
iPhone I can get, I'm just saying that I will look at prices once I know what 
my best choices are for a small model.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Evan


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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-21 Thread Chris Chaffin
Just a couple more things Evan.  Keep in mind that normally in a smaller phone 
factor comes less battery life.  I would say that both phones have decent 
battery life, but nothing compared to the bigger phones.  Of coarse, battery 
life is dependent on how much the phone is used every day.  The second thing 
is, and you did not say this mattered, but the iphone SE uses touch ID and has 
a home button, and the iphone 13 uses face ID and has no home button.  Just a 
couple of things that you should keep in mind when looking at the different 
iphones.

I would say that both the iphone 13 mini and the iphone SE will work good for 
you for several years and I would guess 4 to 5 years depending on usage and how 
good the battery life holds up.

It is said, that the reason the mini is no longer in the lineup of the new 
phones is because of sales.  And I personally think that having two iphones at 
the smaller form factor is why the mini is going away.  The SE is a very 
popular model, and the SE sales is a lot more, and this is probably because the 
price of the SE is less than the mini.  So I do not think either phone is a bad 
choice.  Like anything else, it comes down to personal preference.

Chris


> On Oct 20, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan
> 
> ,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip at the 
> end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then for sure.
> 
> I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if I'm 
> going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get a really 
> nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, particularly since I 
> hope to be using it for a good while, given that these things are not cheap.
> 
> I'll let you know what I get.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Hi Evan,
>> 
>> Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus 
>> the iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was 
>> the SE 2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 
>> and 8 and while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its 
>> physical form factor is actually a bit smaller.
>> 
>> I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be 
>> obsolete but I believe the 13
>> Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I really like mine 
>> and don't think you can go wrong choosing it.
>> 
>> Good luck with your decision.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Larry,
>>> 
>>> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
>>> smallest iPhones.
>>> 
>>> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
>>> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
>>> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
>>> 
>>> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
>>> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
>>> 
>>> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what 
>>> I've read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen 
>>> resolution too, but that doesn't matter to me.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>>>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Evan Reese
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that 
>>>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told 
>>>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>>> 
>>>> Is that true?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>> 
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm confused. What's meant by the iPhone 13 Mini becoming obsolete? I can't see 
that it won't be able to run on cell networks for years, and it'll keep getting 
IOS updates for at least as long as any other iPhone 13. This will almost 
assuredly be for just one year less than the iPhone 14 models. Apple may not 
have put out an iPhone 14 Mini but that doesn't mean they won't have something 
comparable to the Mini down the road, and it doesn’t take anything whatsoever 
away from the current iPhone 13 Mini. Unless you're looking for that extra year 
of IOS updates, I don't see any reason not to go with an iPhone 13 Mini and 
then choosing your next phone in a few years when you're ready. Who knows what 
your options will be then. Sorry if I missed the point here.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi Evan, 

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller. 

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13 Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I 
really like mine and don't think you can go wrong choosing it. 

Good luck with your decision. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Larry,
> 
> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
> smallest iPhones.
> 
> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
> 
> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
> 
> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
> 
> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
> read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution 
> too, but that doesn't matter to me.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Evan Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
>> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
>> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>> 
>> Is that true?
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
>> 
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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Evan Reese

Thanks Alan

,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip 
at the end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then 
for sure.


I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if 
I'm going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get 
a really nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, 
particularly since I hope to be using it for a good while, given that 
these things are not cheap.


I'll let you know what I get.

Evan



On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi Evan,

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller.

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13
Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I really like mine and 
don't think you can go wrong choosing it.

Good luck with your decision.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Thanks Larry,

I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
smallest iPhones.

Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.

I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.

If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still for 
sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.

The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution too, 
but that doesn't matter to me.

Evan



On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


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Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Evan, 

Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus the 
iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was the SE 
2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 and 8 and 
while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its physical form 
factor is actually a bit smaller. 

I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be obsolete 
but I believe the 13 
Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I really like mine and 
don't think you can go wrong choosing it. 

Good luck with your decision. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Larry,
> 
> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
> smallest iPhones.
> 
> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
> 
> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
> 
> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
> 
> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what I've 
> read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen resolution 
> too, but that doesn't matter to me.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
>> Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
>> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
>> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>> 
>> Is that true?
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Andy Baracco

The iPhone SE 3rd generation is the same size as the iPhone 7 and 8.

Andy

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone


Thanks Chris, I haven't looked at any models yet. I just thought I'd ask
here and see what people thought before I go out to the store.

Evan


On 10/20/2022 10:25 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Hi Evan,

The iPhone 13 Mini is still being sold, so you can still buy one, but it 
is correct, the mini will not be made in any new models of the iPhone, 
like the newest model that just came out, the iphone 14.
Now have you looked at an iPhone SE?  The 3rd edition just came out a few 
months ago, and it is smaller in size, plus it still has a home button.


Chris



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Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that 
looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told 
me that they weren't making newer models of that one.


Is that true?

Thanks much.

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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Evan Reese

Thanks Larry,

I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to 
Apple's smallest iPhones.


Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.


I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to 
go obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.


If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's 
still for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.


The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what 
I've read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen 
resolution too, but that doesn't matter to me.


Evan


On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread llumpkin
Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


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Reese
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Evan Reese
Thanks Chris, I haven't looked at any models yet. I just thought I'd ask 
here and see what people thought before I go out to the store.


Evan


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Hi Evan,

The iPhone 13 Mini is still being sold, so you can still buy one, but it is 
correct, the mini will not be made in any new models of the iPhone, like the 
newest model that just came out, the iphone 14.
Now have you looked at an iPhone SE?  The 3rd edition just came out a few 
months ago, and it is smaller in size, plus it still has a home button.

Chris



On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:11 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that they 
weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi Evan,

The iPhone 13 Mini is still being sold, so you can still buy one, but it is 
correct, the mini will not be made in any new models of the iPhone, like the 
newest model that just came out, the iphone 14.
Now have you looked at an iPhone SE?  The 3rd edition just came out a few 
months ago, and it is smaller in size, plus it still has a home button.

Chris


> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:11 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
> they weren't making newer models of that one.
> 
> Is that true?
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> Evan
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I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Evan Reese

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that 
looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else 
told me that they weren't making newer models of that one.


Is that true?

Thanks much.

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I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

2022-10-20 Thread Evan Reese

Hey Guys,

I'm familiar with iOS. I've been using an iPad Mini for over six years. 
I've never owned an iPhone yet though, and I'm now looking for one to buy.


Even though I'm familiar with iOS, I'm not familiar with specific iPhone 
models, and I'm in the market for one.


I want a small one. My manual dexterity is good, so I'm sure I can use 
it.  But I don't want to sacrifice power or memory.


Could people tell me which models I should be looking for that are on 
the smaller side?


Assume price is no object. I'm not saying that I'm gonna buy the most 
expensive iPhone I can get, I'm just saying that I will look at prices 
once I know what my best choices are for a small model.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Evan


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