Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Vicki W.]

I've been away and have hundreds of messages to catch up on, so I'm not sure 
what was said on this problem.


I noticed my battery level on my mini IPad and phone both dropped.

I double checked the display to make sure my brightness hadn't been turn on 
by itself, as it sometimes does, and on one of the devices it was up and on 
the other it was zero.


I changed that and still had an issue, so I went into both devices and 
turned off the screen manager that was introduced with IOS 12. That did the 
trick.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12


Hearing this Makes me  Glad, I  didn't  Update My
iPhoneSE  From iOS10.3.3  TO iOS12
At 08:46 AM 10/23/2018, you wrote:
It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, but it still delivers peak 
performance according to the iPhone's battery health section.



I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have the iPhone as a phone, so 
hopefully they won't require a complete restore.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
available (or whatever the phrase is.)


18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with 
Apple about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
night.


Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip 
under pressure.† ­ Bruce U. Utah Phillips

>

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:Â  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Mike B.]

Hi Sieghard,

If you open the properties of that iTunes64 file, navigate to the, Details 
tab, & route your Jaws cursor to the PC cursor you should find what the 
version is .  I have that setup.exe file and the version reads, Product 
version 12.6.3.6.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12


I seem to remember that Mark said iTunes 12.6.3 was updated as well, but I 
don't know if it's done automatically or if you are prompted to do so or if 
you have to download it. When I just tried to download the 64 bit version 
the installer file name was simply somethings like iTunesSetup64 so it 
didn't indicate the version.
On the other hand if you just want to use iTunes to update the latest 
official release of iTunes is OK, it has some issues if you want to use it 
to play music since currently Jaws or other screenreaders don't read the 
list of artists, genres etc., but the iPhone section is accessible as 
always.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

hi Sieghard
I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version has also 
the advantage of having an appstore on board.
But are we sure making backups with this version is secure?
I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you want to 
update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done for ios12 on 
this version.
One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my Phone 
via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my software was 
uptodate which certainly was not the case.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel :
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once
> and while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was
> not. In fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of
> iTunes or whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3.
> Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you
> have an iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do
> it from there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.  I despise iTunes
> and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for
> it at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store. I'm
> still not sure if that's the version I should install.
>
>
> Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?
>
>
> I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important
> information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the
> restore is done.
>
>
> It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back
> that bothers me.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a
>> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted
>> everything was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task
>> depending on how many apps you use and how much other content is on
>> your device, but there are times when it's the only really good
>> solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the time 
>> to do this.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, Sieghard.
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the
>> 12.x upgrade.
>>
>>
>> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones,
>> since the issue with battery drainage is a rare one. At this point
>> I'm a bit concerned, not actively worried. I'm not a huge traveler
>> beyond my home area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry
>> with me, so the phone can stay charged if I need it to. I'm not
>> getting a battery case because I'm upgrading to a newer and most
>> likely larger sized device next year. So for now, until I can get a
>> definitive answer, I can keep my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 
>> without too many worries.
>>
>>
>> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed. Siri works
>> fine for me as do the other gestures 

RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I seem to remember that Mark said iTunes 12.6.3 was updated as well, but I 
don't know if it's done automatically or if you are prompted to do so or if you 
have to download it. When I just tried to download the 64 bit version the 
installer file name was simply somethings like iTunesSetup64 so it didn't 
indicate the version.
On the other hand if you just want to use iTunes to update the latest official 
release of iTunes is OK, it has some issues if you want to use it to play music 
since currently Jaws or other screenreaders don't read the list of artists, 
genres etc., but the iPhone section is accessible as always. 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

hi Sieghard
I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version has also 
the advantage of having an appstore on board.
But are we sure making backups with this version is secure?
I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you want to 
update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done for ios12 on this 
version.
One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my Phone 
via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my software was 
uptodate which certainly was not the case.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel :
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once 
> and while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was 
> not. In fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of 
> iTunes or whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3.
> Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you 
> have an iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do 
> it from there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes 
> and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for 
> it at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm 
> still not sure if that's the version I should install.
>
>
> Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?
>
>
> I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important 
> information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the 
> restore is done.
>
>
> It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back 
> that bothers me.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a 
>> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted 
>> everything was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task 
>> depending on how many apps you use and how much other content is on 
>> your device, but there are times when it's the only really good 
>> solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the time to 
>> do this.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, Sieghard.
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 
>> 12.x upgrade.
>>
>>
>> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, 
>> since the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point 
>> I'm a bit concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler 
>> beyond my home area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry 
>> with me, so the phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not 
>> getting a battery case because I'm upgrading to a newer and most 
>> likely larger sized device next year.  So for now, until I can get a 
>> definitive answer, I can keep my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 
>> without too many worries.
>>
>>
>> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works 
>> fine for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>>
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>
>> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Davy,
>>>
>>> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in 
>>> fact updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone 
>>> used too much battery, she wrote this:
>>>
>>> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 
>>> 12 for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>>
>>> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 
>>> and glad he hadn't 

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

hi Sieghard
I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version
has also the advantage of having an appstore on board.
But are we sure making backups with this version is secure?
I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you
want to update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done
for ios12 on this version.
One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my
Phone via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my
software was uptodate which certainly was not the case.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel :
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once and
> while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was not. In
> fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of iTunes or
> whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3.
> Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you have an
> iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do it from
> there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes
> and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it
> at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm still not
> sure if that's the version I should install.
>
>
> Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?
>
>
> I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important
> information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the
> restore is done.
>
>
> It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back
> that bothers me.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a
>> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything
>> was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task depending on how many
>> apps you use and how much other content is on your device, but there are
>> times when it's the only really good solution. In the end you have to
>> decide if it's worth spending the time to do this.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, Sieghard.
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x
>> upgrade.
>>
>>
>> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
>> the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
>> concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
>> area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
>> phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
>> because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
>> next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
>> my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.
>>
>>
>> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
>> for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>>
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>
>> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Davy,
>>>
>>> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact
>>> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much
>>> battery, she wrote this:
>>>
>>> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for
>>> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>>
>>> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and
>>> glad he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your
>>> reply is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is
>>> everybody's choice whether they want to update or not, but telling
>>> somebody to just update and stop argueing about battery when in fact she
>>> has updated and is simply stating a fact is rude.
>>> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also
>>> replied to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think
>>> make iOS 12 pretty compelling.
>>> As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she
>>> needs to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she
>>> expects her phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a
>>> phone is locked and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I
>>> agree that battery drain at best should be minimal. She says her phone
>>> drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours 

RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Lisa,

Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once and while 
it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was not. In fact, I would 
recommend you get this enterprise version of iTunes or whatever they call it, 
it is I think version 12.6.3.
Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you have an 
iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do it from there.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes 
and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it 
at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm still not 
sure if that's the version I should install.


Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?


I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important 
information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the 
restore is done.


It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back 
that bothers me.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a 
> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything was 
> fine. I know this can be a time consuming task depending on how many apps you 
> use and how much other content is on your device, but there are times when 
> it's the only really good solution. In the end you have to decide if it's 
> worth spending the time to do this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, Sieghard.
>
>
> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
> upgrade.
>
>
> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
> the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
> concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
> area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
> phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
> because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
> next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
> my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.
>
>
> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
> for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.
>
>
> Lisa Belville
>
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Davy,
>>
>> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
>> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
>> battery, she wrote this:
>>
>> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
>> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>
>> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad 
>> he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply 
>> is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
>> whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
>> stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply 
>> stating a fact is rude.
>> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also 
>> replied to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think 
>> make iOS 12 pretty compelling.
>> As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs 
>> to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her 
>> phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked 
>> and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery 
>> drain at best should be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 
>> hours with no useage whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous 
>> although I also think it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in 
>> the perfect world this should be maybe 3% or 4%.
>> Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
>> something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
>> phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it 
>> on until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I 
>> found my battery seemed to last longer than before.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
>> Cuppens
>> Sent: 

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

['Husna Begum' via VIPhone]

Hi,

which phones are they offering that battery deal for and is it available in 
the UK? also would you have to go to an apple shop to have it done or could 
they do it in other shops such as the car phone warehouse.


thanks, Husna


-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

You said 18 month old iPhone SE. That battery is probably a bit degraded
which would cause something like this to happen. but you can go to
settings and battery to see if you're phone is doing anything during
those six hours it's just sitting there. I recently learned that mine
was and zello was the cause. Zello was causing my phone to be in use for
around 20 minutes per hour when I was asleep one night. And the app was
closed. You might want to take advantage of the $29 battery replacement
program that Apple is offering until the end of this year.


On 10/23/2018 7:31 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:
Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for six 
or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps running, 
the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand in 
the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's not 
having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've also 
rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I tried 
charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and keeping it 
plugged into the charger for about eight hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before the 
upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other apps 
where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Lisa

I really have the impression that you have an app that is eating your 
battery. Question: does it happen regularly that your iphone gets warm?

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Lisa Belville

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x
upgrade.


generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.


And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:


Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and 
glad he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your 
reply is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's 
choice whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just 
update and stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is 
simply stating a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also 
replied to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think 
make iOS 12 pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she 
needs to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she 
expects her phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a 
phone is locked and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree 
that battery drain at best should be minimal. She says her phone drained 
8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage whatsoever, I actually don't think that 
is outrageous although I also think it's maybe more than it should be 
since I would say in the perfect world this should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in 
my phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn 
it on until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it 
I found my battery seemed to last longer than before.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t 
using

it it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!***

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Gordon]

Have you tried calibrating the battery? The way this is done is to run 
it all the way down until the phone actually shuts down. Let it sit for 
about 20 minutes and then charge it all the way. I've read several 
articles that say this is a good idea ever so often.



On 10/24/2018 12:49 PM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
Lisa I appologize for the fact that I thought you had not updated yet, 
but please try the tips Sieghard gave you. there is nothing wrong by 
caarying out a network settings reset.

have a nice day!
Davy
*From:* Lisa Belville 
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:16 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, 
and I think that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with 
a locked screen and no notification or apps running in the background 
is odd.


I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had 
tried if I were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.


Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:


Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t 
using it it is still running on battery


character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you! ***


*From: *Lisa Belville 
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
*To: *V I Phone 
*Subject: *Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12

for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for

six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps

running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't

even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery

drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand

in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's

not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,

Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,

background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have

been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've

also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I

tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and

keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before

the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other

apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone

as a new device.

Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the

restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?

Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my

phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.

TIA for thoughts.

Lisa

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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

Lisa I appologize for the fact that I thought you had not updated yet, but 
please try the tips Sieghard gave you. there is nothing wrong by caarying out a 
network settings reset.
have a nice day!
Davy 

From: Lisa Belville 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, and I think 
that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with a locked screen and 
no notification or apps running in the background is odd.



I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had tried if I 
were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.



Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.




Lisa



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:

  Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using it 
it is still running on battery



  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
***



  From: Lisa Belville
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
  To: V I Phone
  Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12



  Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 

  for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.





  I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 

  six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 

  running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.



  I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 

  even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 

  drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 

  in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 

  not having issues staying connected.



  Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 

  Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 

  background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 

  been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 

  also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 

  tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 

  keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.



  I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 

  the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 

  apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.





  My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 

  as a new device.





  Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 

  restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?





  Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 

  phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.





  TIA for thoughts.





  Lisa







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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes 
and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it 
at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm still not 
sure if that's the version I should install.



Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?


I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important 
information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the 
restore is done.



It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back 
that bothers me.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Lisa,

I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a complete 
reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything was fine. I know 
this can be a time consuming task depending on how many apps you use and how 
much other content is on your device, but there are times when it's the only 
really good solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the 
time to do this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
upgrade.


generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.


And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad he 
hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply stating 
a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs to 
address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her phone to 
stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked and on Do Not 
Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain at best should 
be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage 
whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I also think 
it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect world this 
should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found my 
battery seemed to last longer than before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :

Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you 

RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Lisa,

I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a complete 
reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything was fine. I know 
this can be a time consuming task depending on how many apps you use and how 
much other content is on your device, but there are times when it's the only 
really good solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the 
time to do this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
upgrade.


generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since 
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit 
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home 
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the 
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case 
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device 
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep 
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.


And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine 
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Davy,
>
> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
> battery, she wrote this:
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad 
> he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
> pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
> whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
> stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply 
> stating a fact is rude.
> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
> to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
> pretty compelling.
> As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs 
> to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her 
> phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked 
> and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain 
> at best should be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with 
> no useage whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I 
> also think it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect 
> world this should be maybe 3% or 4%.
> Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
> something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
> phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
> until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found 
> my battery seemed to last longer than before.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
> Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi Lisa
> The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
> ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
> maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
> while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
> know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
> worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
> snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
> update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
> which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
> Regards
> Davy
>
> 2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
>> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
>> it it is still running on battery
>>
>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>> you!    ***
>>
>> From: Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
>> To: V I Phone
>> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
>> for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>
>>
>> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
>> six or seven 

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
upgrade.



generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since 
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit 
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home 
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the 
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case 
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device 
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep 
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.



And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine 
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.



Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad he 
hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply stating 
a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs to 
address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her phone to 
stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked and on Do Not 
Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain at best should 
be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage 
whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I also think 
it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect world this 
should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found my 
battery seemed to last longer than before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :

Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
it it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!    ***

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last 

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Richard Turner]

Lisa,
Have you gone through all the settings to see if something got enabled during 
the update that you had not had on before?

I hope you can check with Apple, as this does seem more than normal for sure.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Lisa Belville 
mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>> wrote:


No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, and I think 
that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with a locked screen and 
no notification or apps running in the background is odd.


I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had tried if I 
were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.


Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com


On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:
Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using it 
it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, and 
I think that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with a 
locked screen and no notification or apps running in the background is odd.



I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had tried 
if I were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.



Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.


Lisa


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On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:


Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t 
using it it is still running on battery


character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you! ***


*From: *Lisa Belville 
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
*To: *V I Phone 
*Subject: *Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12

for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for

six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps

running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't

even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery

drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand

in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's

not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,

Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,

background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have

been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've

also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I

tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and

keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before

the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other

apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone

as a new device.

Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the

restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?

Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my

phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.

TIA for thoughts.

Lisa

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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad he 
hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply stating 
a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs to 
address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her phone to 
stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked and on Do Not 
Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain at best should 
be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage 
whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I also think 
it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect world this 
should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found my 
battery seemed to last longer than before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
> it it is still running on battery
>
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
> you!    ***
>
> From: Lisa Belville
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: V I Phone
> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
> for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
>
> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>
> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
> not having issues staying connected.
>
> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>
> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was
> expected.
>
>
> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
> as a new device.
>
>
> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>
>
> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
> phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>
>
> TIA for thoughts.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
> it it is still running on battery
>
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
> you!    ***
>
> From: Lisa Belville
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: V I Phone
> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
> for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
>
> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>
> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
> not having issues staying connected.
>
> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>
> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was
> expected.
>
>
> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
> as a new device.
>
>
> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>
>
> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
> phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>
>
> TIA for thoughts.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Robert Wright]

Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using it 
it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are very few people who have such battery issues and doing a few simple 
preparations before you upgrade like making sure all apps are closed and 
turning your phone off and back on reduce the likelyhood even further. Apart 
from that I certainly enjoy how snappy iOS 12 is on my iPhone 6S Plus, how 
stabil it runs  and features like SIRI Shortcuts, Airplay 2 etc. Hopefully 
person to person payments with Apple Pay will make it to Canada soon since that 
is another really neat feature I know I would use since most of my friends and 
family have iPhones.
iOS 12 is by far the best iOS Apple has released in the last 5 or so years.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hearing this Makes me  Glad, I  didn't  Update My 
iPhoneSE  From iOS10.3.3  TO iOS12
At 08:46 AM 10/23/2018, you wrote:
>It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, 
>but it still delivers peak performance according 
>to the iPhone's battery health section.
>
>
>I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.
>
>
>I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.
>
>
>Should be interesting considering I only have 
>the iPhone as a phone, so hopefully they won't require a complete restore.
>
>
>Lisa
>
>
>Lisa Belville
>missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
>On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything 
>>about it not being 100% available (or whatever the phrase is.)
>>
>>18 months should not have degraded much, but if 
>>you haven't spoken with Apple about this, I would.
>>I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it 
>>doesn't lose that much over night.
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been 
>>and a spirt is a drip under pressure.† ­ Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> >
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
>>To: V I Phone 
>>Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>>Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old 
>>iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over a month 
>>and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>
>>
>>I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
>>six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
>>running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>>
>>I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
>>even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
>>drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
>>in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
>>not having issues staying connected.
>>
>>Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:Â  Screen time is off,
>>Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
>>background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
>>been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
>>also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
>>tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
>>keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>>
>>I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
>>the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
>>apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.
>>
>>
>>My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
>>as a new device.
>>
>>
>>Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
>>restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>>
>>
>>Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
>>phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>>
>>
>>TIA for thoughts.
>>
>>
>>Lisa
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>missktlab1...@frontier.com
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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Robin]

Hearing this Makes me  Glad, I  didn't  Update My 
iPhoneSE  From iOS10.3.3  TO iOS12

At 08:46 AM 10/23/2018, you wrote:
It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, 
but it still delivers peak performance according 
to the iPhone's battery health section.



I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have 
the iPhone as a phone, so hopefully they won't require a complete restore.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything 
about it not being 100% available (or whatever the phrase is.)


18 months should not have degraded much, but if 
you haven't spoken with Apple about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it 
doesn't lose that much over night.


Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been 
and a spirt is a drip under pressure.† ­ Bruce U. Utah Phillips

>

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Lisa Belville

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old 
iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over a month 
and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:Â  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Correct, it is for the iPhone 6 and up, but in this case up means newer and not 
older, if you have an iPhone 5S you don't qualify for the $29 battery 
replacement.
I have a 6S Plus and my wife has a 6S and we both had our batteries changed by 
Apple at the end of May, we showed both I think 83% or 84% capacity. Not sure 
if they'll change it if it is at 92%.
Like some suggested, after you have it sitting there even for 2 hours with no 
activity check your battery usage and see what is says for standby time and 
usage time, it should hardly any usage time at all, if it does then some app or 
process is active and you can see if a Reset Network Settings will fix it, if 
you already did this you maybe have to dop a complete reset and start from 
scratch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, but it still delivers 
peak performance according to the iPhone's battery health section.


I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have the iPhone as a phone, so 
hopefully they won't require a complete restore.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
> available (or whatever the phrase is.)
>
> 18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with Apple 
> about this, I would.
> I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
> night.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
>
> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>
> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
> not having issues staying connected.
>
> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>
> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.
>
>
> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
> as a new device.
>
>
> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>
>
> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
> phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>
>
> TIA for thoughts.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, but it still delivers 
peak performance according to the iPhone's battery health section.



I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have the iPhone as a phone, so 
hopefully they won't require a complete restore.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
available (or whatever the phrase is.)

18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with Apple 
about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
night.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Hmm, I thought the free battery promotion was only for the iPhone 6 and 
up?  The SE came out after that if I remember correctly.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 7:36 AM, Gordon wrote:
You said 18 month old iPhone SE. That battery is probably a bit 
degraded which would cause something like this to happen. but you can 
go to settings and battery to see if you're phone is doing anything 
during those six hours it's just sitting there. I recently learned 
that mine was and zello was the cause. Zello was causing my phone to 
be in use for around 20 minutes per hour when I was asleep one night. 
And the app was closed. You might want to take advantage of the $29 
battery replacement program that Apple is offering until the end of 
this year.



On 10/23/2018 7:31 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:
Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone 
for six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no 
apps running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone 
isn't even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This 
battery drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my 
nightstand in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there 
again, it's not having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is 
off, Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake 
is off, background app refresh is off, Email and other push 
notifications have been disabled, network settings have been reset at 
least twice.  I've also rebooted the phone with the power/home button 
combo.  Last week I tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down 
completely, and keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight 
hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or 
other apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that 
was expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the 
phone as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do 
the restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Richard Turner]

Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
available (or whatever the phrase is.)

18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with Apple 
about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
night.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Gordon]

You said 18 month old iPhone SE. That battery is probably a bit degraded 
which would cause something like this to happen. but you can go to 
settings and battery to see if you're phone is doing anything during 
those six hours it's just sitting there. I recently learned that mine 
was and zello was the cause. Zello was causing my phone to be in use for 
around 20 minutes per hour when I was asleep one night. And the app was 
closed. You might want to take advantage of the $29 battery replacement 
program that Apple is offering until the end of this year.



On 10/23/2018 7:31 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:
Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone 
isn't even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This 
battery drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my 
nightstand in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there 
again, it's not having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is 
off, Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake 
is off, background app refresh is off, Email and other push 
notifications have been disabled, network settings have been reset at 
least twice.  I've also rebooted the phone with the power/home button 
combo.  Last week I tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down 
completely, and keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight 
hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the 
phone as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do 
the restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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