Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Loreal Lavigna]

Thank you so much for this info! I’ll definitely look into this. Appreciate it very much.LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Timothy Emmons  wrote:Hey guys, don't forget the Nls EReader available through your nls library if you're a patron. It's a 20 cell display made by Humanware, and it's robust and very straight forward to use. The one caveat at the moment, it doesn't run on the android platform yet but it does connect to IOS beautifully. But, that's another, free, option. Thanks yall.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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Hey guys, don't forget the Nls EReader available through your nls library if you're a patron. It's a 20 cell display made by Humanware, and it's robust and very straight forward to use. The one caveat at the moment, it doesn't run on the android platform yet but it does connect to IOS beautifully. But, that's another, free, option. Thanks yall.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Richard Turner]

Ih have handled the Focus 14 Blue. I'm simply not a bfan of Freedom's hardware.  It feels less well made than other displays; but that is very subjective. The reality is that you need hands on yourself with the varighs displays in order to decide what meets your need. Some State rehab offices have displays you can check out if you happen to live near one. otherwise you have to buy one, check it out during the period that you could return it for a full refund, and then try another. 'Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 7, 2023, at 7:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Loreal Lavigna]

Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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RE: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Richard Turner]

Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, 
Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?

Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it 
is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.

I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Lavigna
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays
Importance: High

 

Hello everyone,

 

I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be 
personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my 
iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and 
easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone 
have any suggestions or recommendations?

 

I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the 
option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I 
utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or 
TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using 
Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able 
to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  
I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional 
reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at 
loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com>  or by text at 
5183305188.

 

Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com> 

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal 
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IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Loreal Lavigna]

Hello everyone,

 

I'm looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will
be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and
my iPad Mini6.  I'm looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18
cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.
Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations?

 

I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the
option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though
I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or
TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of
using Braille so that when I'm on the move and unable to use my Air Pods
I'll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without
anyone overhearing.  I'm using email and text communication for personal as
well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as
by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com>  or by
text at 5183305188.

 

Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com> 

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal
<http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal> 

 

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Re: Using Braille displays in email apps

[Scott Davert]

Hi Stuart.
Sadly, that's your best and only bet for the moment, and 15.2 isn't
looking any better.
Richahrd: There are a few issues with the Mail app and composing
messages using a keyboard on a braille display. When editing an email
in the Mail app using a braille display, after inserting a line break
focus will jump to the top of the screen, even though the cursor has
not jumped. Once this happens, getting input to work as it should is
not possible unless you hit space followed by back space and then
continue writing. There are also cursor issues, not with my bad
language you understand, but hitting cursor routing buttons often and
then editing often is not consistent. It's like the VoiceOver cursor
and braille cursor become unteathered. In fact, if you set the rotor
to word or characters, and then move it using speech, you will find
that this is where the editing cursor is, not where iit appears to be
in braille. Stuart: does this line up with your issues? Anything to
add?

Best,
Scott

On 11/29/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It is impossible to give an answer to your question without knowing what
> exactly is happening that you find a problem.
> What is not working the way it used to exactly?
> What are your braille settings?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:57 PM, Stuart Lawler
>  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I’ve noticed significant deterioration since iOS 15 when attempting to use a
> Braille display either in the native iOS mail app, or in Microsoft Outlook,
> or even when using Outlook on the web.
> Has anyone found anything that works in this regard? Writing an email in
> another application such as notes and then pasting into the email app is not
> an ideal solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stuart
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Re: Text editing with braille displays

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I saw this issue in the betas. Originally it happened everywhere, but it 
happened less and less as the betas went along; it didn't happen in Notes, 
Mail, or Messages by the time of release. What app are you using? I would 
suggest for now writing your text in Notes and then pasting it into the 
problematic app.

Good luck,
Anna

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Which display and where are you getting the repeated letter exactly.  Onboard 
> editing, or when connected to a computer?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
> Patete
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Text editing with braille displays
> 
> Sorry I believe I sent my last reply to the wrong address by mistake.
> I have turned off automatic translation but still hhaving this repeating 
> letter problem. It seems to not be happening in Mail though - I've tried 
> twice to create examples of the issue here but it refuses to do it for me.
> Perhaps it's a problem with this display.
> Renee 
>> 3/10/2021, at 08:30, Renee Patete  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
>> since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't 
>> expanding to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other 
>> words. I'll try turning it off anyway.
>> Renee
>>> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We need to know a few things to help.
>>> 
>>> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
>>> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted 
>>> or contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
>>> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
>>> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
>>> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a 
>>> t.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." - Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2ec2a82a59ac4b1bb45508d98db87760%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637696645688672518%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ewB5huAVX3%2FeEmquBjMUOEDKJ22X%2BVAH2Bx%2BwwjN6VI%3Dreserved=0
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>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Renee Patete
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display 
>>> and my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and 
>>> go back to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my 
>>> phone and braille display will often add additional repeated letters and 
>>> sometimes continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been 
>>> experiencing this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I 
>>> know, editing without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not 
>>> experiencing this.
>>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>>> Renee
>>> 
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RE: Text editing with braille displays

[Richard Turner]

Which display and where are you getting the repeated letter exactly.  Onboard 
editing, or when connected to a computer?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
Patete
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text editing with braille displays

Sorry I believe I sent my last reply to the wrong address by mistake.
I have turned off automatic translation but still hhaving this repeating letter 
problem. It seems to not be happening in Mail though - I've tried twice to 
create examples of the issue here but it refuses to do it for me.
Perhaps it's a problem with this display.
Renee 
> 3/10/2021, at 08:30, Renee Patete  wrote:
> 
> I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
> since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't expanding 
> to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other words. 
> I'll try turning it off anyway.
> Renee
>> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> We need to know a few things to help.
>> 
>> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
>> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
>> contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
>> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
>> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
>> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a 
>> t.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2ec2a82a59ac4b1bb45508d98db87760%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637696645688672518%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ewB5huAVX3%2FeEmquBjMUOEDKJ22X%2BVAH2Bx%2BwwjN6VI%3Dreserved=0
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>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
>> Patete
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display 
>> and my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go 
>> back to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone 
>> and braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
>> continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
>> this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
>> without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing 
>> this.
>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>> Renee
>> 
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Re: Text editing with braille displays

[Renee Patete]

Sorry I believe I sent my last reply to the wrong address by mistake.
I have turned off automatic translation but still hhaving this repeating letter 
problem. It seems to not be happening in Mail though - I've tried twice to 
create examples of the issue here but it refuses to do it for me.
Perhaps it's a problem with this display.
Renee 
> 3/10/2021, at 08:30, Renee Patete  wrote:
> 
> I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
> since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't expanding 
> to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other words. 
> I'll try turning it off anyway.
> Renee
>> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> We need to know a few things to help.
>> 
>> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
>> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
>> contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
>> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
>> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
>> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a 
>> t.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
>> Patete
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display 
>> and my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go 
>> back to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone 
>> and braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
>> continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
>> this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
>> without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing 
>> this.
>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>> Renee
>> 
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Re: Text editing with braille displays

[Renee Patete]

I'm using the Unified English Braille code, the standard code in my country 
since 2004. I also have automatic translation on. However, it isn't expanding 
to its print equivalent, but just repeating letters from the other words. I'll 
try turning it off anyway.
Renee
> On 13/10/2021, at 08:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> We need to know a few things to help.
> 
> One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you 
> are using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
> contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
> If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
> difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
> everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a t.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
> Patete
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Text editing with braille displays
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display and 
> my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go back 
> to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone and 
> braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
> continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
> this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
> without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing 
> this.
> Thank you in advance for your advice.
> Renee
> 
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RE: Text editing with braille displays

[Richard Turner]

We need to know a few things to help.

One, what are your braille settings?  IN particular, which braille code you are 
using and under the braille input setting, are you using uncontracted or 
contracted, and is automatic translation on or off?
If automatic translation is on, try turning it off to see if that makes a 
difference while editing.  I suspect when editing a word, it is expanding 
everything to its print translation, so entering t, gets that, instead of a t.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
Patete
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text editing with braille displays

Hi everyone,
I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display and 
my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go back 
to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone and 
braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing this.
Thank you in advance for your advice.
Renee

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Text editing with braille displays

[Renee Patete]

Hi everyone,
I have been experiencing issues with text editing with my braille display and 
my iPhone since iOS 15 came out. If I have made a mistake in text and go back 
to change it, such as to change a letter or add some words, my phone and 
braille display will often add additional repeated letters and sometimes 
continue to do this when I try to delete them. Has anyone been experiencing 
this and does anyone know how to get around it? As far as I know, editing 
without a braille display is fine, and sighted people are not experiencing this.
Thank you in advance for your advice.
Renee

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Re: Follow up on issue with braille displays and the "Message body text field is editing" with iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Richard,

I am on the latest between and turned the container description to do nothing. 
I also turned the speech off with m plus spacebar. I did see the body is 
editing message. It appeared only once while doing this email. Once it went 
away, it has not returned. The focus also still jumps. Nothing has changed.

Jenn  

Jenn and Kumi

> On May 10, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> Anyone experiencing this issue, can you check two things.
> Check the setting under VoiceOver Verbosity concerning container description. 
>  Note what it is.  I find even with it set to Do Nothing, the problem 
> persists.
>  Turn off speech with space+m or a three finger double tap before writing in 
> the message body.
>  
> Can you write without issues with speech off?
>  
> If so, then I think that is the problem, since the braille display shows 
> everything VoiceOver says, that is creating the problem.
>  
> Thanks for your help in pinning this down.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
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Follow up on issue with braille displays and the "Message body text field is editing" with iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch

[Richard Turner]

Hello all,
Anyone experiencing this issue, can you check two things.

  1.  Check the setting under VoiceOver Verbosity concerning container 
description.  Note what it is.  I find even with it set to Do Nothing, the 
problem persists.
  2.   Turn off speech with space+m or a three finger double tap before writing 
in the message body.


Can you write without issues with speech off?

If so, then I think that is the problem, since the braille display shows 
everything VoiceOver says, that is creating the problem.

Thanks for your help in pinning this down.



Richard
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Re: Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader

[Ann]

The orbit reader 20 or 20 Plus do work very well with both Kindle and 
Voice dream Reader. I really hope the panning issue is fixed in the next 
IOS update. I especially miss pulling something up on my Kindle and 
being able to read it in braille.


~Ann



On 4/16/2021 4:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Most will work better after iOS 14.5 is released.

There is a bug that causes problems when you get to the bottom of a page 
and pan to the next page.


That is an iOS issue not specific to any display.

I personally prefer the Orbit Reader displays, but you will get as many 
displays recommended as there are displays out there as everyone has 
their likes and dislikes.


Richard

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RE: Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

Most will work better after iOS 14.5 is released.
There is a bug that causes problems when you get to the bottom of a page and 
pan to the next page.
That is an iOS issue not specific to any display.
I personally prefer the Orbit Reader displays, but you will get as many 
displays recommended as there are displays out there as everyone has their 
likes and dislikes.




Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



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Subject: Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader


Good afternoon everyone. I was curious, if anyone has used it Braille Display 
to read books that you've already downloaded from book share on voice dream 
reader, and or if you've used braille displays to read books from the Kindle 
app? If so which displays do you find have worked well with either of these 
tasks on our IT devices thanks Dana
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Questions about braille displays Kindle and voice dream reader

[Dana Leet]

Good afternoon everyone. I was curious, if anyone has used it Braille Display 
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RE: The 40-Cell Question: A Comparison of 40-Cell Braille Displays | AccessWorld | American Foundation for the Blind

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I'm interested in the Mantis, but my only hesitation is the keyboard 
durability. I bang away on my mechanical keyboard with no issues, but I wonder 
how well the keyboard on the display will hold up long term and if any issues 
do crop up, how easy or difficult it would be to repair it since the Braille 
display and keyboard come as one unit.

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A good clear-cut read for some 40 cell options.


https://afb.org/aw/22/1/17349


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The 40-Cell Question: A Comparison of 40-Cell Braille Displays | AccessWorld | American Foundation for the Blind

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A good clear-cut read for some 40 cell options.


https://afb.org/aw/22/1/17349


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Re: Braille displays and auto advance

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
No iOS will not do this now. However it will when iOS 14 comes out. 

Greg Wocher


> On Aug 1, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Nicki Keck  wrote:
> 
> Ann,
> 
> I would love to have this feature.  Currently, it's not possible, unless 
> there's something I don't know, but I'm 99.9% sure it's not. But I'd love 
> to see it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Braille displays and auto advance
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> I think I know the answer to this, and that it is no. But is there a way in 
> iOS to get a braille display to auto-advance at a certain pace when reading 
> documents so hitting that panning key constantly isn't necessary? I think 
> this is the only thing I really don't like about iOS and braille, but maybe 
> I'm wrong and I just don't know the proper command?
> 
> 
> If it doesn't exist, how would we go about suggesting it to the right people?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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RE: Braille displays and auto advance

[Nicki Keck]

Ann,

I would love to have this feature.  Currently, it's not possible, unless 
there's something I don't know, but I'm 99.9% sure it's not. But I'd love 
to see it.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille displays and auto advance

Hi folks,


I think I know the answer to this, and that it is no. But is there a way in iOS 
to get a braille display to auto-advance at a certain pace when reading 
documents so hitting that panning key constantly isn't necessary? I think this 
is the only thing I really don't like about iOS and braille, but maybe I'm 
wrong and I just don't know the proper command?


If it doesn't exist, how would we go about suggesting it to the right people?


Thanks,

~Ann

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Re: Braille displays and auto advance

[Richard Turner]

not yet. Wait for iOS 14.




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On Aug 1, 2020, at 6:19 AM, Ann  wrote:

Hi folks,


I think I know the answer to this, and that it is no. But is there a way in iOS 
to get a braille display to auto-advance at a certain pace when reading 
documents so hitting that panning key constantly isn't necessary? I think this 
is the only thing I really don't like about iOS and braille, but maybe I'm 
wrong and I just don't know the proper command?


If it doesn't exist, how would we go about suggesting it to the right people?


Thanks,

~Ann

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Braille displays and auto advance

[Ann]

Hi folks,


I think I know the answer to this, and that it is no. But is there a way 
in iOS to get a braille display to auto-advance at a certain pace when 
reading documents so hitting that panning key constantly isn't 
necessary? I think this is the only thing I really don't like about iOS 
and braille, but maybe I'm wrong and I just don't know the proper command?



If it doesn't exist, how would we go about suggesting it to the right 
people?



Thanks,

~Ann

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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
The new Orbit 40 that is coming out will have cursor
 buttons. The orbits are really good for note taking. Also the new Orbit 40 
will have on board translation.

Greg Wocher

> On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard, Simon, and Alia. 
> 
> She will be using it for note taking as well as lots of reading. 
> 
> So far we have looked at the Focus 40 5th gen as well as the mentioned 
> Q-Braille from Hims. 
> 
> Orbit reader sounds good, But from what I gather that display does not have 
> cursor buttons. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sadam 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/1/2020 9:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
>> I use the Orbit Reader 20.
>> A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
>> Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what 
>> specific features they want/need.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>> 
>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>> www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
>>> <mailto:liel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use 
>>> with iPhone.
>>> 
>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>> 
>>>> ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ 
>>>> <mailto:li...@sadamahmed.com> כתב/ה:‬
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
>>>> iPhone and iPad.
>>>> 
>>>> What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
>>>> QBraille.
>>>> 
>>>> Any insight welcome.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Sadam
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RE: Braille displays and iOS?

[Richard Turner]

It is now being repaired by someone, but I had not heard they are producing 
them again.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays and iOS?

it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.

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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Devin Prater]

I use the Focus 14 Blue fifth generation. The scratchpad is okay, no word wrap 
which I find annoying, but I mainly use it with my iPhone anyway.

> On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:27 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Even when it was, I don't think it made it to Australia which is where I'm 
> located.
> 
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> people hold.
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> On 6/1/2020 10:13 PM, alia robinson wrote:
>> it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
>> 
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Even when it was, I don't think it made it to Australia which is where 
I'm located.


I've certainly never come across it at the various trade shows that the 
sales people hold.



On 6/1/2020 10:13 PM, alia robinson wrote:

it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.


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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[alia robinson]

it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.

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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi, the Q Braille XL is grate, but the note taking ability is very limited. I 
think that Braille Sence Polaris from Hims is beter. 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:58, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> 
> Hi Richard, Simon, and Alia. 
> 
> She will be using it for note taking as well as lots of reading. 
> 
> So far we have looked at the Focus 40 5th gen as well as the mentioned 
> Q-Braille from Hims. 
> 
> Orbit reader sounds good, But from what I gather that display does not have 
> cursor buttons. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sadam 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/1/2020 9:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
>> I use the Orbit Reader 20.
>> A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
>> Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what 
>> specific features they want/need.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>> 
>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use 
>>> with iPhone.
>>> 
>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>> 
>>>> ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
>>>> iPhone and iPad.
>>>> 
>>>> What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
>>>> QBraille.
>>>> 
>>>> Any insight welcome.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Sadam
>>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>>> Senior software Instructor
>>>> Accessibility quality assurance
>>>> Mobile and app testing
>>>> Accessible Technology Solutions LLC
>>>> " Your problems are our solutions "
>>>> Cell:
>>>> +61 435 892 944
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Richard, Simon, and Alia.

She will be using it for note taking as well as lots of reading.

So far we have looked at the Focus 40 5th gen as well as the mentioned 
Q-Braille from Hims.


Orbit reader sounds good, But from what I gather that display does not 
have cursor buttons.


Thanks,

Sadam


On 6/1/2020 9:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
I use the Orbit Reader 20.
A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what 
specific features they want/need.



Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."



Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:



Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too 
use with iPhone.


נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬


Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use 
with her iPhone and iPad.


What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
QBraille.


Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
Sadam Ahmed
Senior software Instructor
Accessibility quality assurance
Mobile and app testing
Accessible Technology Solutions LLC
" Your problems are our solutions "
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Richard Turner]

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
I use the Orbit Reader 20.
A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what specific 
features they want/need.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
wrote:


Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use with 
iPhone.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬

Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
iPhone and iPad.

What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the QBraille.

Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[alia robinson]

they’re about all the same as far as how they’re used. it depends on what else 
she wants to do with it.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
iPhone and iPad.

What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the QBraille.

Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use with 
iPhone.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
> iPhone and iPad.
> 
> What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?
> 
> I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the QBraille.
> 
> Any insight welcome.
> Sincerely,
> Sadam
> Sadam Ahmed
> Senior software Instructor
> Accessibility quality assurance
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> Accessible Technology Solutions LLC
> " Your problems are our solutions "
> Cell:
> +61 435 892 944
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> 0438 540 222
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> Sadamahmed1992
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Braille displays and iOS?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with 
her iPhone and iPad.


What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
QBraille.


Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
Sadam Ahmed
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Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Regarding List Threads about Braille Displays

[Marie N.]

Thanks for addressing this issue. I am not a braille device user and feel 
this topic has gone on much too long recently.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 10:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: MODERATOR NOTE: Regarding List Threads about Braille Displays

Hello Everyone,

While I realize that we are a small community and, as such, must share
information about both software and devices that may, at times, be a bit
off-topic, the Braille display threads are straying far beyond the scope of
this forum.

So, if there is a support forum, or any kind of support info about a Braille
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MODERATOR NOTE: Regarding List Threads about Braille Displays

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

While I realize that we are a small community and, as such, must share
information about both software and devices that may, at times, be a bit
off-topic, the Braille display threads are straying far beyond the scope of
this forum.

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display, share it on-list, but be certain to instruct members to reply to
your info, off-list; unless, of course, the information directly addresses
an Apple product or Apple platform supported third-party software.
Consequently, all follow-up replies should be sent directly to the author of
the original post, off-list.

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Re: Braille displays

[Flor Lynch]

Possibly it’s come to that point since a friend of mine looked at it. He 
thought it was more suitable for school or classroom use rather than for 
individuals. 
Refresh was slow, and the dots didn’t always refresh equally. 

From: llump...@austin.rr.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Braille displays
The model I heard demonstrated did 9 lines by 40 which is why they had “360” in 
its name.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The current Canute does 5 lines of Braille at 28 cells a line, after which you 
refresh manually. It’s not portable (in the sense that we’ve come to 
understand). 

 

From: Susie Stageberg 

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:48 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Braille displays

I’ve been hearing about full-page displays for at least a decade. Every so 
often, somebody comes up with a prototype, and it’s going to be the next 
greatest thing since sliced bread. I hate to be a party-pooper, but I wouldn’t 
hold my breath if I were you.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yohandy Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

You guys heard of the Conute display? sounds really awesome, but it's still in 
prototype stages. still though, full page of braile? sweet! info found here: 
www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

 

 

 

On 10/23/2018 10:05 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

  Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this. 

  Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
talking $2500 or more.

From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has 
an updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:

  Hey guys,

  I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've 
been interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one 
is left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a 

RE: Braille displays

[karl]

Hi Susie,

 

You MUST BE A YOUNGSTER AS I HAVE HEARD OF FULL PAGE Braille displays FOR AT 
LEAST 30 YEARS BUT YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE PHENOMENON IS DEAD ON.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

I’ve been hearing about full-page displays for at least a decade. Every so 
often, somebody comes up with a prototype, and it’s going to be the next 
greatest thing since sliced bread. I hate to be a party-pooper, but I wouldn’t 
hold my breath if I were you.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yohandy Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

You guys heard of the Conute display? sounds really awesome, but it's still in 
prototype stages. still though, full page of braile? sweet! info found here: 
www.bristolbraille.co.uk/ <http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/> 

 

 

 

On 10/23/2018 10:05 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>  
wrote:

Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.

>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org <http://www.aph.org> 

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez mailto:yohand...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey guys,

I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connec

RE: Braille displays

[llumpkin]

The model I heard demonstrated did 9 lines by 40 which is why they had “360” in 
its name.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The current Canute does 5 lines of Braille at 28 cells a line, after which you 
refresh manually. It’s not portable (in the sense that we’ve come to 
understand). 

 

From: Susie Stageberg <mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:48 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Braille displays

I’ve been hearing about full-page displays for at least a decade. Every so 
often, somebody comes up with a prototype, and it’s going to be the next 
greatest thing since sliced bread. I hate to be a party-pooper, but I wouldn’t 
hold my breath if I were you.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yohandy Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

You guys heard of the Conute display? sounds really awesome, but it's still in 
prototype stages. still though, full page of braile? sweet! info found here: 
www.bristolbraille.co.uk/ <http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/> 

 

 

 

On 10/23/2018 10:05 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>  
wrote:

Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.

>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org <http://www.aph.org> 

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez mailto:yohand...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey guys,

I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here

Re: Braille displays

[Flor Lynch]

The current Canute does 5 lines of Braille at 28 cells a line, after which you 
refresh manually. It’s not portable (in the sense that we’ve come to 
understand). 

From: Susie Stageberg 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Braille displays
I’ve been hearing about full-page displays for at least a decade. Every so 
often, somebody comes up with a prototype, and it’s going to be the next 
greatest thing since sliced bread. I hate to be a party-pooper, but I wouldn’t 
hold my breath if I were you.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yohandy Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

You guys heard of the Conute display? sounds really awesome, but it's still in 
prototype stages. still though, full page of braile? sweet! info found here: 
www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

 

 

 

On 10/23/2018 10:05 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

  Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this. 

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

   

  Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
  reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
  can control is your character.
  - Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
   

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
talking $2500 or more.

From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has 
an updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:

  Hey guys,

  I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've 
been interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one 
is left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all

   

   

   

  On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the 
price is now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory 
or stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. 
Both getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Real

RE: Braille displays

[llumpkin]

We have an el braille 14 4th generation. I understand that they’re still 
working on the 5th generation. It works as advertised but I found the learning 
curve for the braille commands steeper than I wanted to climb. The orbit reader 
for a fraction of the price does exactly what we need.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul and 
Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

Hi all.  Just wondering, is anyone familiar with the elBraille put out by 
Freedom Scientific?  If so, what do you think of it?  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wright
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

I just checked the APH Refresh a Braille is $1695

Orbit 20  $449

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Do consider the price difference.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Maria Reyes <mailto:blindathle...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 

My group:  

marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com> 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann mailto:rkmcg...@comcast.net> > wrote:

to all, 

 

i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 

somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 

 

 

 

On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> " 
mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl

__

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Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> 

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com <mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com> 

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

From: Ed Worrell <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony, 

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I

Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in 

RE: Braille displays

[Cris Ali]

Hahahaha.
You really made me laugh Susie.  You are so correct and direct.  I have also 
been hearing about a 9 lines-360 cells braille display for over ten years.

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

I’ve been hearing about full-page displays for at least a decade. Every so 
often, somebody comes up with a prototype, and it’s going to be the next 
greatest thing since sliced bread. I hate to be a party-pooper, but I wouldn’t 
hold my breath if I were you.

Susie


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yohandy Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays


You guys heard of the Conute display? sounds really awesome, but it's still in 
prototype stages. still though, full page of braile? sweet! info found here: 
www.bristolbraille.co.uk/<http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/>






On 10/23/2018 10:05 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
wrote:
Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Braille displays

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen Readers.
There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.
>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.
It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.
You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org<http://www.aph.org>

Richard


"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez 
mailto:yohand...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey guys,
I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all



On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is 

RE: Braille displays

[Susie Stageberg]

I’ve been hearing about full-page displays for at least a decade. Every so 
often, somebody comes up with a prototype, and it’s going to be the next 
greatest thing since sliced bread. I hate to be a party-pooper, but I wouldn’t 
hold my breath if I were you.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yohandy Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

You guys heard of the Conute display? sounds really awesome, but it's still in 
prototype stages. still though, full page of braile? sweet! info found here: 
www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

 

 

 

On 10/23/2018 10:05 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
 On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.

>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:

Hey guys,

I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all

 

 

 

On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl

__

Karl Smit

RE: Braille displays

[Susie Stageberg]

I saw a demo of ElBraille at a tech fair near here over the summer.  It is a 
very nifty device. It’s billed as a tablet dressed up as a notetaker. It seems 
to me it has 40 cells and looks kind of like a notetaker, but it is running 
windows 10 and can read Excel and PowerPoint and all that. It also worked 
flawlessly with the phone, at least it did when the guy was giving me the demo. 
If I didn’t already have a notetaker, I would have considered it. It is a lot 
of money. The guy from Freedom scientific told me he leaves his phone in his 
pocket and runs it from the ElBraille. 

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

Hi all.  Just wondering, is anyone familiar with the elBraille put out by 
Freedom Scientific?  If so, what do you think of it?  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Wright
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

I just checked the APH Refresh a Braille is $1695

Orbit 20  $449

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Do consider the price difference.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Maria Reyes <mailto:blindathle...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 

My group:  

marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com


On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:

to all, 

 

i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 

somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 

 

 

 

On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl

__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

From: Ed Worrell <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony, 

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I

Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's 

RE: Braille displays

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi all.  Just wondering, is anyone familiar with the elBraille put out by 
Freedom Scientific?  If so, what do you think of it?  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Wright
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

I just checked the APH Refresh a Braille is $1695

Orbit 20  $449

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Do consider the price difference.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Maria Reyes <mailto:blindathle...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 

My group:  

marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com


On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:

to all, 

 

i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 

somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 

 

 

 

On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl

__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

From: Ed Worrell <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony, 

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I

Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.

HTH

Ed Worrell





On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:

Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!


On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:

Hello, 

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it.

Re: Braille displays

[Traci Duncan]

Just to add something here about the focus 14 blue 5th gen. For those of you 
that own an older model, you may be able to turn it in for a bit of credit 
towards a new one.
 I asked about my particular unit and I would get $200. I’m just not sure if 
this is the route I want to go.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2018, at 7:05 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
> in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
> orbit and it has done everything we asked for.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>  
> So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
> happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
> short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
> Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
> hear what anyone has to say on this. 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
> reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
> can control is your character.
> - Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>  
> The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
> Readers.
> There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
> talking $2500 or more.
> From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
> money, $449 plus shipping.
> It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
> devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
> I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
> need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific 
> has an updated driver for it.
> You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
> the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org
>  
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> — Jane Wagner
>  
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
> interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
> left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
> nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, 
> as Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys 
> recommend that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, 
> which is a little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the 
> market? does it work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it 
> work on mobile devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know 
> of any displays that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of 
> your hands on the display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it 
> definitely should be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a 
> little crazy. I have a device with a built in display, really old device, the 
> Braillenote MPower. I've no idea how to go about connecting the device to a 
> computer though. I think it used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it 
> was a while back. I still have the device here so if you guys know if those 
> old devices will work, and a way to use them on modern operating systems, let 
> me know. thanks so much for your help! tc all
>  
>  
>  
> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
> stand-alone functions.
> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
> getting good reviews now.
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> — Jane Wagner
>  
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:
> 
> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
> information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
> other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.
> Karl
> __
> Karl Smith
> Acc

RE: Braille displays

[llumpkin]

Mystic access did a braille me presentation several months ago and the device 
in our opinion had serious flaws and wasn’t on our list to buy. We bought the 
orbit and it has done everything we asked for.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
hear what anyone has to say on this. 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.

>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org <http://www.aph.org> 

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez mailto:yohand...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey guys,

I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all

 

 

 

On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> " 
mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl

__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> 

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com <mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com> 

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech 
<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Faxistech=02%7C01%7C%7C9cfcddf0154f4115e73d08d6389a8965%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636758633712951676=JAOsae9hVhdRDX%2F51w%2B4KoTCVeM86I8XowwaP2

Re: Braille displays

[Flor Lynch]

Thanks for the memory refresh! 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Braille displays
Here is a link to the information on the Focus 14 5th generation from Freedom 
Scientific with all the details.

The price is $1295.00.

 

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/Blindness/Focus14BrailleDisplay

 

Richard

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The neweest model of it  also has note-taking capability with a USB drive, if I 
have it coprrecly. 

 

From: Flor Lynch 

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:43 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Braille displays

The Focus 14 Blue (with computer) has auto-scroll, and it’s probably 
$1700-$1800 or less. 

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:22 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Braille displays

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.

>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:

  Hey guys,

  I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all

   

   

   

  On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:

  The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

   

  Karl

   

   

   

  __

   

  Karl Smith
  Access Technology Consultant

  Axis

  4304 South El Camino St.

  Taylorsville, Utah 84129

   

  Phone: 866-824-7885

  Fax: 866-824-7885

  E-mail: k...@axistech.net

  Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

   

  Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  
If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
port where u could transfe

RE: Braille displays

[karl]

The new Focus 14 blue is $1,295.00

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

 

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

The Focus 14 Blue (with computer) has auto-scroll, and it’s probably 
$1700-$1800 or less. 

 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:22 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Braille displays

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 

There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.

>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.

It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.

I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.

You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org <http://www.aph.org> 

 

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez mailto:yohand...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey guys,

I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all

 

 

 

On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 

Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.

Richard

 

 

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner

 


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> " 
mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to 

RE: Braille displays

[Richard Turner]

Here is a link to the information on the Focus 14 5th generation from Freedom 
Scientific with all the details.
The price is $1295.00.

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/Blindness/Focus14BrailleDisplay

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

The neweest model of it  also has note-taking capability with a USB drive, if I 
have it coprrecly.

From: Flor Lynch<mailto:florl...@iol.ie>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays
The Focus 14 Blue (with computer) has auto-scroll, and it’s probably 
$1700-$1800 or less.

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays
The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen Readers.
There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.
>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.
It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.
You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: 
www.aph.org<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aph.org=02%7C01%7C%7Cc8fd3a3f4b6a46cbc4b308d638e68c92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636758960181745366=ze%2BBOgYzZ0rXj9q6Z6iOKZSTCCWrpQI4nNIvrLaKbSE%3D=0>

Richard


"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez 
mailto:yohand...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey guys,
I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all



On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions.
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard


"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>" 
mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:
The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl



__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
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Re: Braille displays

[Flor Lynch]

The neweest model of it  also has note-taking capability with a USB drive, if I 
have it coprrecly. 

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille displays
The Focus 14 Blue (with computer) has auto-scroll, and it’s probably 
$1700-$1800 or less. 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille displays
The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 
There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.
>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.
It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.
You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org

Richard




"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:


  Hey guys,
  I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all



  On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard




"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:


  The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

   

  Karl

   

   

   

  __

   

  Karl Smith
  Access Technology Consultant

  Axis

  4304 South El Camino St.

  Taylorsville, Utah 84129

   

  Phone: 866-824-7885

  Fax: 866-824-7885

  E-mail: k...@axistech.net

  Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

   

  Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  
If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

   

  From: Ed Worrell 

  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

  To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 

  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  Hey Anthony, 

   

  To answer your questions.

   

  1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

  A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of 
the I

  Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking 
tasks.

   

  B. Offline mode - This allows

Re: Braille displays

[Flor Lynch]

The Focus 14 Blue (with computer) has auto-scroll, and it’s probably 
$1700-$1800 or less. 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille displays
The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers. 
There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.
>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.
It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.
You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org

Richard




"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:


  Hey guys,
  I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all



  On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard




"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:


  The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

   

  Karl

   

   

   

  __

   

  Karl Smith
  Access Technology Consultant

  Axis

  4304 South El Camino St.

  Taylorsville, Utah 84129

   

  Phone: 866-824-7885

  Fax: 866-824-7885

  E-mail: k...@axistech.net

  Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

   

  Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  
If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

   

  From: Ed Worrell 

  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

  To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 

  Subject: Re: Braille displays

   

  Hey Anthony, 

   

  To answer your questions.

   

  1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

  A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of 
the I

  Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking 
tasks.

   

  B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock 
and stop watch in this mode as well. 

   

  Note - To switch between these modes there is a phy

Re: Braille displays

[Susie Stageberg]

I had a BrailleMe this summer for a month. I could never get it to connect with 
my phone, so I sent it back.  The staff at National Braille Press did their 
best to help, but without success. It is a cute little device and I wayted it 
to work, but it never did. Just my experience.  Susie

> On Oct 23, 2018, at 4:04 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what ever 
> happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only got a 
> short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys on the 
> Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am curious to 
> hear what anyone has to say on this. 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
> reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
> can control is your character.
> - Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
> 
> The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
> Readers.
> There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
> talking $2500 or more.
> From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
> money, $449 plus shipping.
> It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
> devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
> I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
> need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific 
> has an updated driver for it.
> You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
> the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> — Jane Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
>> interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one 
>> is left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
>> nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, 
>> as Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys 
>> recommend that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, 
>> which is a little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the 
>> market? does it work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it 
>> work on mobile devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know 
>> of any displays that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of 
>> your hands on the display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, 
>> it definitely should be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a 
>> little crazy. I have a device with a built in display, really old device, 
>> the Braillenote MPower. I've no idea how to go about connecting the device 
>> to a computer though. I think it used a serial connection if I'm not 
>> mistaken, it was a while back. I still have the device here so if you guys 
>> know if those old devices will work, and a way to use them on modern 
>> operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your help! tc all
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see whatthe 
>>> price is now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no
>>> internal memory or stand-alone functions.
>>> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
>>> getting good reviews now.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." — Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
>>>> storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to 
>>>> your iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit 
>>>> overall.
>>>> Karl
>>>> __
>>>> Karl Smith
>>>> Access Technology Consultant
>>>> Axis
>>>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>>>

RE: Braille displays

[Robert Wright]

I just checked the APH Refresh a Braille is $1695
Orbit 20  $449

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Do consider the price difference.
 
Andy
 
- Original Message - 
From: Maria Reyes 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 
My group:  
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:
to all, 

i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 
somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 



On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard


"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:
The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.
Karl
__
Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129
Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net
Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com
Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays
can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  
From: Ed Worrell 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Braille displays
Hey Anthony, 
To answer your questions.
1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 
Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.
HTH
Ed Worrell



On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony
Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
Hello, 
I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the Brailliant 
14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan from a program 
in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing braille but there 
were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving the simplicity of 
the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has their preferences 
for braille displays.
HTH
Ed Worrell


On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
character is found in how you treat people wh

RE: Braille displays

[Robert Wright]

You would have to send to your pc to place on a SD card.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Can you transfer notes from the iPhone to the Braille Edge 40? (iPhone as such 
doesn’t support ‘auto-panning’/auto-scrolling.) 
 
From: Robert Wright 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Braille displays
The braille edge 40 has a auto panning feature.
 
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    
 
From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays
 
Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.
 
Lelia 
 
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Re: Braille displays

[Kay Malmquist]

So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what 
ever happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only 
got a short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys 
on the Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am 
curious to hear what anyone has to say on this.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Your reputation is in the hands of others. That's what a
reputation is. You can't control that. The only thing you
can control is your character.
- Wayne Walter Dyer (1940-2015)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Braille displays


  The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers.
  There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
talking $2500 or more.
  From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
money, $449 plus shipping.
  It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
  I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific 
has an updated driver for it.
  You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org


  Richard





  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner



  On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  
wrote:


Hey guys,
I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've 
been interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if 
one is left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it 
was a nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a 
display, as Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you 
guys recommend that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for 
thousands, which is a little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest 
display on the market? does it work with all screen readers like Jaws and 
NVDA< and does it work on mobile devices as well? what's the speed on it, 
and do you guys know of any displays that will auto scroll? that is, will 
detect the position of your hands on the display and scroll accordingly? is 
that a thing? if not, it definitely should be. having to press a button 
repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a device with a built in 
display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've no idea how to go 
about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it used a serial 
connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have the device 
here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way to use 
them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your help! 
tc all






On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the 
price is now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal 
memory or stand-alone functions.
  Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. 
Both getting good reviews now.
  Richard





  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." — Jane Wagner



  On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  
wrote:


The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit 
overall.



Karl







__



Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129



Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

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Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays



can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on 
it?  If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or 
usb port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?



From: Ed Worrell

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Subject: Re: Braille displays



Hey Anthony,



To answer your questions.



1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting 
part of this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetoo

Re: Braille displays

[Richard Turner]

The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen Readers.
There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are talking 
$2500 or more.
>From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
>money, $449 plus shipping.
It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may need 
to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific has an 
updated driver for it.
You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on the 
American Printing House web site: www.aph.org<http://www.aph.org>

Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez 
mailto:yohand...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey guys,
I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've been 
interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if one is 
left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it was a 
nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a display, as 
Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you guys recommend 
that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for thousands, which is a 
little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest display on the market? does it 
work with all screen readers like Jaws and NVDA< and does it work on mobile 
devices as well? what's the speed on it, and do you guys know of any displays 
that will auto scroll? that is, will detect the position of your hands on the 
display and scroll accordingly? is that a thing? if not, it definitely should 
be. having to press a button repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a 
device with a built in display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've 
no idea how to go about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it 
used a serial connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have 
the device here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way 
to use them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your 
help! tc all



On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions.
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>" 
mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl



__

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Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>
Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com<mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com>

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?

From: Ed Worrell<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony,

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in

Re: Braille displays

[Andy Baracco]

APH was still selling them as of july.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Braille displays


  I'm not sure who is actually building the Refreshabraille now. APH has always 
been the seller in the US, but Baum built/designed the hardware.
  Since the Orbit Reader has two more braille cells, and a user replaceable 
battery, I think today it is the better choice.
  Richard






  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
— Jane Wagner



  On Oct 22, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:


Yes. the charger was hard to put back in if you somehow removed it. But 
apparently they are making one with a removable charger. My friend has one of 
those. 


My group:  
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:50 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:


  I used a refreshabraille for a long time and liked it for the most part. 
Only thing I didn't like was the charging port was awkward and hard to put the 
charger in. I think mine was older though. I didn't think they were being made 
any longer. The Braille was OK not as sharp as the Orbit though.
  On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:


  Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the 
Orbit reader 20. 


  My group:  
  marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

  On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:


to all, 





i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 


somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that 
baum filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since 
both refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 










On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the 
price is now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory 
or stand-alone functions. 
  Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. 
Both getting good reviews now.
  Richard





  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." — Jane Wagner



  On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  
wrote:


The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.



Karl







__



Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129



Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com



Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Braille displays



can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on 
it?  If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or 
usb port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  



From: Ed Worrell 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 

    Subject: Re: Braille displays



Hey Anthony, 



To answer your questions.



1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting 
part of this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the 
iPhone or iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every 
aspect of the I

Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note 
taking tasks.



B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand 
alone notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
clock and stop watch in this mode as well. 



Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on 
the back of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the 
notetaker functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device 
to bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on 
your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account 
to have it sync. If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync 
notes with the Notes application that is now on all of Apple's operating 
systems. You then can edit, print or view them from your iPad, iPhon

Re: Braille displays

[Andy Baracco]

Do consider the price difference.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria Reyes 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 7:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Braille displays


  Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the 
Orbit reader 20. 


  My group: 
  marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

  On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:


to all, 





i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 


somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 










On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price 
is now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions. 
  Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
  Richard





  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." — Jane Wagner



  On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  
wrote:


The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.



Karl







__



Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129



Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com



Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Braille displays



can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it? 
 If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  



From: Ed Worrell 

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 

    Subject: Re: Braille displays



Hey Anthony, 



To answer your questions.



1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part 
of this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone 
or iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect 
of the I

Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking 
tasks.



B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock 
and stop watch in this mode as well. 



Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the 
back of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker 
functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to 
bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your 
iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to 
have it sync. If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes 
with the Notes application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You 
then can edit, print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really 
cool feature. All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be 
synced back and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the 
feature that really sells me on the device.





HTH



Ed Worrell





  On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:



  Hi Ed;
  Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does 
notcan you use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is 
there anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be 
used as a standalone device? thank you Anthony



  Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!


  On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  
wrote:

Hello, 



I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving 
the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has 
their preferences for braille displays.



HTH





Ed Worrell



  On Oct 

Re: Braille displays

[Richard Turner]

I'm not sure who is actually building the Refreshabraille now. APH has always 
been the seller in the US, but Baum built/designed the hardware.
Since the Orbit Reader has two more braille cells, and a user replaceable 
battery, I think today it is the better choice.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Maria Reyes 
mailto:blindathle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes. the charger was hard to put back in if you somehow removed it. But 
apparently they are making one with a removable charger. My friend has one of 
those.

My group:
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com>

On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:50 PM, Rebecca Ilniski 
mailto:rilni...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I used a refreshabraille for a long time and liked it for the most part. Only 
thing I didn't like was the charging port was awkward and hard to put the 
charger in. I think mine was older though. I didn't think they were being made 
any longer. The Braille was OK not as sharp as the Orbit though.
On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Maria Reyes 
mailto:blindathle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20.

My group:
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com>

On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann 
mailto:rkmcg...@comcast.net>> wrote:


to all,


i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it.

somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands.



On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions.
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>" 
mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl



__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?

From: Ed Worrell<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony,

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well.

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating 

Re: Braille displays

[Maria Reyes]

Yes. the charger was hard to put back in if you somehow removed it. But 
apparently they are making one with a removable charger. My friend has one of 
those. 

My group: 
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:50 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> I used a refreshabraille for a long time and liked it for the most part. Only 
> thing I didn't like was the charging port was awkward and hard to put the 
> charger in. I think mine was older though. I didn't think they were being 
> made any longer. The Braille was OK not as sharp as the Orbit though.
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the 
> Orbit reader 20. 
> 
> My group: 
> marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:
>> 
>> to all, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 
>> 
>> somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
>> filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since 
>> both refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good 
>> brands. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
>>> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
>>> stand-alone functions.
>>> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
>>> getting good reviews now.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." — Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
>>>> storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to 
>>>> your iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit 
>>>> overall.
>>>>  
>>>> Karl
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> __
>>>>  
>>>> Karl Smith
>>>> Access Technology Consultant
>>>> Axis
>>>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>>>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
>>>>  
>>>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>>>> Fax: 866-824-7885
>>>> E-mail: k...@axistech.net
>>>> Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com
>>>>  
>>>> Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> kitty hevener
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  
>>>> If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or 
>>>> usb port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device? 
>>>>  
>>>> From: Ed Worrell
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
>>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>>  
>>>> Hey Anthony,
>>>>  
>>>> To answer your questions.
>>>>  
>>>> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
>>>> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
>>>> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
>>>> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every 
>>>> aspect of the I
>>>> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
>>>>  
>>>> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
>>>> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
>>>> clock and stop watch in this mode as well.
>>>>  
>>>> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the 
>>>> back of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the 
>>>> notetaker functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the 
>>>> device to bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the 
>>>> companion app on your iOS device. You must be signe

Re: Braille displays

[Rebecca Ilniski]

I used a refreshabraille for a long time and liked it for the most part. Only 
thing I didn't like was the charging port was awkward and hard to put the 
charger in. I think mine was older though. I didn't think they were being made 
any longer. The Braille was OK not as sharp as the Orbit though.
On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:43 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 

My group: 
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:
> 
> to all, 
> 
> 
> 
> i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 
> 
> somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
> filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
> refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
>> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
>> stand-alone functions.
>> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
>> getting good reviews now.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> — Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:
>> 
>>> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
>>> information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone 
>>> or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.
>>>  
>>> Karl
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> __
>>>  
>>> Karl Smith
>>> Access Technology Consultant
>>> Axis
>>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
>>>  
>>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>>> Fax: 866-824-7885
>>> E-mail: k...@axistech.net
>>> Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>> Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> kitty hevener
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If 
>>> u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
>>> port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device? 
>>>  
>>> From: Ed Worrell
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Hey Anthony,
>>>  
>>> To answer your questions.
>>>  
>>> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
>>> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
>>> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
>>> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every 
>>> aspect of the I
>>> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
>>>  
>>> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
>>> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
>>> clock and stop watch in this mode as well.
>>>  
>>> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back 
>>> of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker 
>>> functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to 
>>> bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on 
>>> your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail 
>>> account to have it sync. If you are signed in with your iCloud account it 
>>> will sync notes with the Notes application that is now on all of Apple's 
>>> operating systems. You then can edit, print or view them from your iPad, 
>>> iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. All of your notes that are 
>>> saved in the Notes Application will be synced back and forth between your 
>>> iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that really sells me on 
>>> the device.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> HTH
>>>  
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:

Re: Braille displays

[Maria Reyes]

Now I'm really debating whether to go with the Refreshabraille 18 or the Orbit 
reader 20. 

My group: 
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Paul Mcgann  wrote:
> 
> to all, 
> 
> 
> 
> i have refreshabraille 18 and i enjoy using it. 
> 
> somehow, refreshabraille is under baum inc right now. i was told that baum 
> filed bankruptcy and i don't know how long it wil resume  back on. since both 
> refreshabrialle and vario ultra 20 are under baum, they are good brands. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
>> now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
>> stand-alone functions.
>> Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
>> getting good reviews now.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> — Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net"  wrote:
>> 
>>> The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
>>> information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone 
>>> or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.
>>>  
>>> Karl
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> __
>>>  
>>> Karl Smith
>>> Access Technology Consultant
>>> Axis
>>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
>>>  
>>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>>> Fax: 866-824-7885
>>> E-mail: k...@axistech.net
>>> Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>> Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> kitty hevener
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If 
>>> u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb 
>>> port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device? 
>>>  
>>> From: Ed Worrell
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Hey Anthony,
>>>  
>>> To answer your questions.
>>>  
>>> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
>>> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
>>> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
>>> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every 
>>> aspect of the I
>>> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
>>>  
>>> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
>>> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
>>> clock and stop watch in this mode as well.
>>>  
>>> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back 
>>> of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker 
>>> functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to 
>>> bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on 
>>> your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail  
>>>  account to have it sync. If you are signed in with 
>>> your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes application that is 
>>> now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, print or view 
>>> them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. All of 
>>> your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back and 
>>> forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
>>> really sells me on the device.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> HTH
>>>  
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Ed;
>>> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
>>> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
>>> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could p

Re: Braille displays

[Richard Turner]

Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the price is 
now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal memory or 
stand-alone functions.
Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. Both 
getting good reviews now.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>" 
mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

Karl



__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>
Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com<mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com>

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?

From: Ed Worrell<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony,

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well.

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.


HTH

Ed Worrell


On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell 
mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the Brailliant 
14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan from a program 
in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing braille but there 
were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving the simplicity of 
the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has their preferences 
for braille displays.

HTH


Ed Worrell

On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
***

From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Braille displays

We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mai

RE: Braille displays

[karl]

The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for storing 
information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your iPhone or 
other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit overall.

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

 

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

 

From: Ed Worrell <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Hey Anthony, 

 

To answer your questions.

 

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I

Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

 

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 

 

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.

 

 

HTH

 

Ed Worrell





On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!


On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello, 

 

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the Brailliant 
14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan from a program 
in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing braille but there 
were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving the simplicity of 
the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has their preferences 
for braille displays.

 

HTH

 

 

Ed Worrell



On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.

 

 

 character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 
 ***

 

From:  <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.

 

 

-Original Message-

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM

To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

 

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
ne

Re: Braille displays

[Andy Baracco]

I had an RB 18 for a while, and liked it a lot, except for the funky USB 
connection, but I understand that this has been corrected in current model.  
it's a solidly built device, and one neat thing about it is that you can use it 
facing either way.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria Reyes 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 2:38 PM
  Subject: Re: Braille displays


  I have a Brailliant BI 32 that I use for school purposes but I'm looking for 
a braille display for home. I've noticed the Brailiant BI 32 would freeze when 
using my iDevices especially when the display isn't fully charged. I was going 
to get another refreshabraille 18 but I don't know if I want that one anymore. 


  My group: 
  marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

  On Oct 22, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:


I’m not Ed, but here’s what I know. The Brailliant 14 does not have a space 
for an SD card, so you can’t read your stored .brf files on it. It does have a 
program for synching with the phone to take notes; I haven’t tried this yet.



The only complaint I have about my Brailliant 14 is that the routing 
buttons do not always do what I expect them to do. It’s not an actual button; 
it’s like an embedded switch and you slide your finger into it to activate it. 
Sometimes it works. 



Since I actually own two BrailleNote Apexes, I didn’t need the Brailliant 
to take notes and read books and such.



Susie





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays



Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony



Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!


On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:

  Hello,



  I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving 
the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has 
their preferences for braille displays.



  HTH





  Ed Worrell



  On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  
wrote:



  What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.



  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!***



  From: llump...@austin.rr.com
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Braille displays



  We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.





  -Original Message-

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg

  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: RE: Braille displays



  Hello Lelia. My condolences.



  I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It 
only has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille 
displays. But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  
India and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of 
something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are 
calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet 
dressed up to look like a notetaker.



  But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I 
am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
nothing to do with the phone. (grin)



  Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.



  Susie





  -Original Message-

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Lelia Struve

  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM

  To: Viphone

  Subject: Braille displays



  Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line 
or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
wondering

Re: Braille displays

[Maria Reyes]

I have a Brailliant BI 32 that I use for school purposes but I'm looking for a 
braille display for home. I've noticed the Brailiant BI 32 would freeze when 
using my iDevices especially when the display isn't fully charged. I was going 
to get another refreshabraille 18 but I don't know if I want that one anymore. 

My group: 
marias-chat+subscr...@googlegroups.com

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> 
> I’m not Ed, but here’s what I know. The Brailliant 14 does not have a space 
> for an SD card, so you can’t read your stored .brf files on it. It does have 
> a program for synching with the phone to take notes; I haven’t tried this yet.
>  
> The only complaint I have about my Brailliant 14 is that the routing buttons 
> do not always do what I expect them to do. It’s not an actual button; it’s 
> like an embedded switch and you slide your finger into it to activate it. 
> Sometimes it works.
>  
> Since I actually own two BrailleNote Apexes, I didn’t need the Brailliant to 
> take notes and read books and such.
>  
> Susie
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille displays
>  
> Hi Ed;
> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as 
> a standalone device? thank you Anthony
>  
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
> from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
> braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am 
> loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every 
> person has their preferences for braille displays.
>  
> HTH
>  
>  
> Ed Worrell
> 
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
>  
> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
> same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>  
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
>     ***    
>  
> From: llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>  
> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille 
> file you put in it.
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
> Stageberg
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>  
> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>  
> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and 
> could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something 
> called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling 
> themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up 
> to look like a notetaker.
>  
> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
> not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>  
> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
> without it.
>  
> Susie
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Braille displays
>  
> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
> the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for all. 
>

RE: Braille displays

[Susie Stageberg]

I’m not Ed, but here’s what I know. The Brailliant 14 does not have a space for 
an SD card, so you can’t read your stored .brf files on it. It does have a 
program for synching with the phone to take notes; I haven’t tried this yet.

 

The only complaint I have about my Brailliant 14 is that the routing buttons do 
not always do what I expect them to do. It’s not an actual button; it’s like an 
embedded switch and you slide your finger into it to activate it. Sometimes it 
works. 

 

Since I actually own two BrailleNote Apexes, I didn’t need the Brailliant to 
take notes and read books and such.

 

Susie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille displays

 

Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!


On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:

Hello,

 

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the Brailliant 
14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan from a program 
in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing braille but there 
were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving the simplicity of 
the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has their preferences 
for braille displays.

 

HTH

 

 

Ed Worrell



On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:

 

What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.

 

 

 character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 
 ***

 

From:  <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.

 

 

-Original Message-

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM

To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Braille displays

 

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

 

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something called El 
Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling themselves now, 
and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up to look like a 
notetaker.

 

But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have nothing 
to do with the phone. (grin)

 

Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.

 

Susie

 

 

-Original Message-

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia Struve

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM

To: Viphone

Subject: Braille displays

 

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

 

Lelia

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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Re: Braille displays

[kitty hevener]

can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on it?  If u 
don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or usb port 
where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?  

From: Ed Worrell 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Braille displays

Hey Anthony, 

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.


HTH

Ed Worrell


  On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:

  Hi Ed;
  Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

  Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

  On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:


Hello, 

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving 
the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has 
their preferences for braille displays.

HTH


Ed Worrell

  On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  
wrote:

  What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
   
  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!***
   
  From: llump...@austin.rr.com
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Braille displays
   
  We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Braille displays
   
  Hello Lelia. My condolences.
   
  I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It 
only has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille 
displays. But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  
India and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of 
something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are 
calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet 
dressed up to look like a notetaker.
   
  But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I 
am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
   
  Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.
   
  Susie
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Lelia Struve
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
  To: Viphone
  Subject: Braille displays
   
  Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things

Re: Braille displays

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Richard,

It is all internal memory. I don’t remember how much internal memory there is. 
There probably isn’t much as documents don’t take much room. It also requires 
the brilliant sync application from the AppleStore to sync files.

HTH
Ed

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Ed,
> So does the ghrailliant 14 use an SD card or is it internal memory?
> Thanks,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> — Jane Wagner
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Ed Worrell  <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Anthony,
>> 
>> To answer your questions.
>> 
>> 1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of 
>> this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
>> A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or 
>> iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect 
>> of the I
>> Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.
>> 
>> B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
>> notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
>> clock and stop watch in this mode as well. 
>> 
>> Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back 
>> of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker 
>> functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to 
>> bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the companion app on 
>> your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail 
>> account to have it sync. If you are signed in with your iCloud account it 
>> will sync notes with the Notes application that is now on all of Apple's 
>> operating systems. You then can edit, print or view them from your iPad, 
>> iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. All of your notes that are saved 
>> in the Notes Application will be synced back and forth between your iDevices 
>> and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that really sells me on the 
>> device.
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece >> <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed;
>>> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
>>> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
>>> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used 
>>> as a standalone device? thank you Anthony
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell >> <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
>>>> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on 
>>>> loan from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have 
>>>> amazing braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. 
>>>> I am loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email 
>>>> every person has their preferences for braille displays.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright >>>> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
>>>>> the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>>>>>  
>>>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
>>>>> you! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ***
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>>>  
>>>>> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
>>>>> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with 
>>>>> phones so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take 
>>>>> any braille fil

Re: Braille displays

[Flor Lynch]

Can you transfer notes from the iPhone to the Braille Edge 40? (iPhone as such 
doesn’t support ‘auto-panning’/auto-scrolling.) 

From: Robert Wright 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Braille displays
The braille edge 40 has a auto panning feature.

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

 

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

 

Lelia 

 

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Re: Braille displays

[Richard Turner]

Hi Ed,
So does the ghrailliant 14 use an SD card or is it internal memory?
Thanks,
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Ed Worrell 
mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Anthony,

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well.

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.


HTH

Ed Worrell

On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell 
mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the Brailliant 
14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan from a program 
in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing braille but there 
were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving the simplicity of 
the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has their preferences 
for braille displays.

HTH


Ed Worrell
On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
***

From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Braille displays

We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Braille displays

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something called El 
Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling themselves now, 
and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up to look like a 
notetaker.

But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have nothing 
to do with the phone. (grin)

Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.

Susie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few t

Re: Braille displays

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Anthony,

To answer your questions.

1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting part of this 
function is there is two modes for the Brailliant
A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the iPhone or iPad. 
This will allow you to use the Braille display to control every aspect of the I
Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking tasks.

B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone notetaker. 
There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a clock and stop 
watch in this mode as well. 

Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on the back of 
the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the notetaker functions 
you will have to flip the switch on the back of the device to bluetooth mode 
and the braille display will sync with the companion app on your iOS device. 
You must be signed in with an iCloud account or Gmail account to have it sync. 
If you are signed in with your iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes 
application that is now on all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, 
print or view them from your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. 
All of your notes that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back 
and forth between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that 
really sells me on the device.


HTH

Ed Worrell

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed;
> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as 
> a standalone device? thank you Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
>> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
>> from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
>> braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am 
>> loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every 
>> person has their preferences for braille displays.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright >> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
>>> the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>>>  
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 
>>> 
>>> ***         
>>>  
>>> From: llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
>>> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
>>> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any 
>>> braille file you put in it.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Susie Stageberg
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>>>  
>>> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
>>> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
>>> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India 
>>> and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of 
>>> something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are 
>>> calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet 
>>> dressed up to look like a notetaker.
>>>  
>>> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I 
>>> am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
>>> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>>>  
>>> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Bra

Re: Braille displays

[Traci Duncan]

I got to look at this device a couple weeks ago. About your note taking 
question, the answer is yes. The Brailliant 14 as a slick feature to sync notes 
from the device back to your phone using Notes in your email account. You can 
look this up on YouTube.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed;
> Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you 
> use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there 
> anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as 
> a standalone device? thank you Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
>> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
>> from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
>> braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am 
>> loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every 
>> person has their preferences for braille displays.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has 
>>> the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>>>  
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
>>>   ***
>>>  
>>> From: llump...@austin.rr.com
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
>>> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
>>> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any 
>>> braille file you put in it.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Susie Stageberg
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>>>  
>>> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
>>> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
>>> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India 
>>> and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of 
>>> something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are 
>>> calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet 
>>> dressed up to look like a notetaker.
>>>  
>>> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I 
>>> am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
>>> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>>>  
>>> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
>>> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
>>> without it.
>>>  
>>> Susie
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Lelia Struve
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
>>> To: Viphone
>>> Subject: Braille displays
>>>  
>>> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
>>> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
>>> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
>>> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
>>> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
>>> the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for 
>>> all. I am just wondering.
>>>  
>>> Lelia
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Braille displays

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Ed;
Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does notcan you use 
notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute?  Also,is there anyway to 
put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could possibly be used as a 
standalone device? thank you Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the 
> Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan 
> from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing 
> braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am 
> loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every 
> person has their preferences for braille displays.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> Ed Worrell
>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
>> 
>> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
>> same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>>  
>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!   
>>  ***
>>  
>> From: llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>  
>> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
>> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
>> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille 
>> file you put in it.
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
>> Stageberg
>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>>  
>> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>>  
>> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
>> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
>> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and 
>> could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something 
>> called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling 
>> themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up 
>> to look like a notetaker.
>>  
>> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
>> not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
>> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>>  
>> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
>> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
>> without it.
>>  
>> Susie
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
>> To: Viphone
>> Subject: Braille displays
>>  
>> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
>> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
>> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
>> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
>> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
>> the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for 
>> all. I am just wondering.
>>  
>> Lelia
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Braille displays

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had the Brailliant 
14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on loan from a program 
in my state). I found this braille display to have amazing braille but there 
were just simply too many buttons on the device. I am loving the simplicity of 
the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email every person has their preferences 
for braille displays.

HTH


Ed Worrell
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
> 
> What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
> same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.
>  
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 
> 
> *** 
>  
> From: llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>  
> We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
> whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones 
> so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille 
> file you put in it.
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
> Stageberg
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
>  
> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
>  
> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and 
> could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something 
> called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling 
> themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up 
> to look like a notetaker.
>  
> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
> not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
>  
> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
> without it.
>  
> Susie
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Braille displays
>  
> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
> the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for all. 
> I am just wondering.
>  
> Lelia
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Braille displays

[Robert Wright]

What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is that it has the 
same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Susie 
Stageberg
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something called El 
Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling themselves now, 
and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up to look like a 
notetaker. 

But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have nothing 
to do with the phone. (grin)

Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.

Susie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

Lelia 

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RE: Braille displays

[Robert Wright]

The braille edge 40 has a auto panning feature.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Braille displays

[Holly Anderson]

Count me in as one of those who has and loves the orbit reader 20.
It doesn’t have many bells and whistles, but its perfect for what I need.
Holly

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> I love my Orbit. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
> 
> Rebecca and guide dog Kabob 
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> 
> On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Have you taken a look at the orbit reader 20?
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Susie Stageberg
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Braille displays
> 
> Hello Lelia. My condolences.
> 
> I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
> has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
> But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and 
> could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something 
> called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling 
> themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up 
> to look like a notetaker.
> 
> But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
> not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
> nothing to do with the phone. (grin)
> 
> Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
> computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
> without it.
> 
> Susie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Braille displays
> 
> Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
> shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
> wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
> line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
> wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
> the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for all. 
> I am just wondering.
> 
> Lelia
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Re: Braille displays

[Rebecca Ilniski]

I love my Orbit. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Rebecca and guide dog Kabob 
email: rilni...@gmail.com

On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Dave  wrote:

Have you taken a look at the orbit reader 20?

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Susie Stageberg
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille displays

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something called El 
Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling themselves now, 
and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up to look like a 
notetaker.

But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have nothing 
to do with the phone. (grin)

Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.

Susie


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

Lelia

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Re: Braille displays

[Dave]

Have you taken a look at the orbit reader 20?

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Susie Stageberg

Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 12:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Braille displays

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only 
has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. 
But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and 
could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something 
called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling 
themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up 
to look like a notetaker.


But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have 
nothing to do with the phone. (grin)


Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.


Susie


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I 
shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am 
wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or 
line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for 
all. I am just wondering.


Lelia

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RE: Braille displays

[llumpkin]

We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no fancy bells and 
whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs beautifully with phones so 
I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll but will take any braille file 
you put in it.


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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Braille displays

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something called El 
Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling themselves now, 
and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up to look like a 
notetaker. 

But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have nothing 
to do with the phone. (grin)

Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.

Susie


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Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

Lelia 

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RE: Braille displays

[Susie Stageberg]

Hello Lelia. My condolences.

I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and since It only has 
14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the Braille displays. But I 
really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a company in  India and could 
never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen a demo of something called El 
Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they are calling themselves now, 
and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 tablet dressed up to look like a 
notetaker. 

But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought used. So I am 
not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva will have nothing 
to do with the phone. (grin)

Hope you can find something that will work well for you. Braille with the 
computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine trying to do 
without it.

Susie


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Lelia Struve
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Braille displays

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

Lelia 

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Braille displays

[Lelia Struve]

Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye to me. I shocked 
it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that I am wondering, do  
any braille displays automatically pan to the next page or line or do you have 
to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m wondering is if anyone 
has used many braille displays which do you think is the best for you?  I do 
realize that what is best for one is it best for all. I am just wondering.

Lelia 

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Re: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[Apple Gourmet-]

Hi!  Can you please suggest which  Braille  Display I should buy?   I am going 
to start learning  Braille,  I have zero knowledge or experience. Which display 
would be the best for me? Thank you very much!  Day 

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Re: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[Diane]

I always with the speech turned off.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?


Hello Lelia,

I just tested my Focus 40 Blue with two Kindle titles and all worked as 
expected.


As in iOS 11, in the Kindle app, the Braille display works best when 
VoiceOver speech is muted/disabled.


Mark

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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has used their braille display with 
the Kindle app and the latest update and how it is? Thanks. I don’t want to 
buy a book if I can’t read it. :-)


Lelia

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Re: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[Diane]

Hi, Lelia, they have updated Amazon Kindle twice recently and, miracle of 
miracles, it hasn't broken either time.  I was sitting my rocking chair 
yesterday afternoon with my phone and my Braille display and it was reading 
fine.  It flips to the next page like it's supposed to.  You'll be okay with 
it.  It says in the thing on the app store that they just added a few new 
library features.  I don't know if they help the sighted people or us or 
not.


God bless.
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Subject: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?


Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has used their braille display with 
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buy a book if I can’t read it. :-)


Lelia

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RE: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kimberly,

As I cannot remember having  experienced a  paging issue, I cannot speak to 
that feature.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

Does that mean the paging problem has been fixed?
Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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On Sep 30, 2018, at 1:04 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
Hello Lelia,

I just tested my Focus 40 Blue with two Kindle titles and all worked as 
expected.  

As in iOS 11, in the Kindle app, the Braille display works best when VoiceOver 
speech is muted/disabled.

Mark

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Subject: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has used their braille display with the 
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book if I can’t read it. :-)

Lelia 

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Re: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[Kimberly]

Does that mean the paging problem has been fixed?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> On Sep 30, 2018, at 1:04 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lelia,
> 
> I just tested my Focus 40 Blue with two Kindle titles and all worked as 
> expected.  
> 
> As in iOS 11, in the Kindle app, the Braille display works best when 
> VoiceOver speech is muted/disabled.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:26 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?
> 
> Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has used their braille display with 
> the Kindle app and the latest update and how it is? Thanks. I don’t want to 
> buy a book if I can’t read it. :-)
> 
> Lelia 
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RE: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Lelia,

I just tested my Focus 40 Blue with two Kindle titles and all worked as 
expected.  

As in iOS 11, in the Kindle app, the Braille display works best when VoiceOver 
speech is muted/disabled.

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 5:26 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has used their braille display with the 
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Kindle with braille displays and the latest update?

[Lelia Struve]

Hello, I was just wondering if anybody has used their braille display with the 
Kindle app and the latest update and how it is? Thanks. I don’t want to buy a 
book if I can’t read it. :-)

Lelia 

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reporting the kindle app with the use of Braille displays

['Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone]

Hi all.  I sent a message to apple accessibility and here is the response I
got.  I recommend that braille display users report the scrolling to next
page not working correctly while using the Kindle app.  I will post Amazon's
response in another message.  Hello

 

Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to
properly implement the necessary components into their applications that
allow VoiceOver to work correctly. We recommend that you contact the app
developer directly to provide them feedback on the features you are finding
do not work. Customer feedback directly to the developer helps them to
improve performance and compatibility.

 

Kindle accessibility feedback can be sent here
kindle-accessibil...@amazon.com  . 

 

Additional information on implementing accessibility features for developers
can be found here:

https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/

 

Apple Accessibility

 

For more information on Accessibility at Apple, please visit:

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/

 

 

On July 19, 2018 at 17:48:22 PM GMT, rilni...@gmail.com
  wrote:




Hello.  When I am reading a Kindle book with voiceOver I can not scroll to
the next page in the Kindle app.  If I listen to the book it works fine.  If
I read it with my refreshable braille display, I can not pan to the next
page.  The Kindle app used to be my favorite reading app for braille but now
it's horrible with Braille.  I'm using a 7 Plus and IOS 11.4.1   Thanks.

 

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Re: about iOS 11.3.1 and braille displays

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

In addition, if problems persist, it would probably be a good idea to reset 
network settings. Sometimes this fixes Bluetooth problems. Last year, my watch 
and phone weren't connecting reliably, and resetting network settings did the 
trick.

Best,
Anna




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> I updated to iOS 11.3.1 and my Braille Edge 40 connected via bluetooth 
> automatically just as always.
> For the person having the issue, reboot both devices, then be sure the phone 
> is locked before turning on the braille display and putting it in terminal 
> mode.
> And, as Anna said, lock the phone before turning off the braille display.
> Richard
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about iOS 11.3.1 and braille displays

[Richard Turner]

I updated to iOS 11.3.1 and my Braille Edge 40 connected via bluetooth 
automatically just as always.
For the person having the issue, reboot both devices, then be sure the phone is 
locked before turning on the braille display and putting it in terminal mode.
And, as Anna said, lock the phone before turning off the braille display.
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Re: Braille displays

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Richard,

If you are using contracted braille, you can press dot 8 by itself for Return 
and dot 7 for Delete. I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna




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> I just received a Braille Edge for work.
> I’m trying to sort out if I have a bad key or if there is an issue in iOS 
> 11.3.
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> the iPhone, but nothing happens.  Same with spacebar plus dot 8.
> So far, other keys seem to be working as advertised.
>  
> Its been a while since I have had a working braille display.
>  
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Braille displays

[Richard Turner]

I just received a Braille Edge for work.
I'm trying to sort out if I have a bad key or if there is an issue in iOS 11.3.
I hit spacebar plus e or dots 1, 5, and I should get a return command sent to 
the iPhone, but nothing happens.  Same with spacebar plus dot 8.
So far, other keys seem to be working as advertised.

Its been a while since I have had a working braille display.

Thanks,
Richard




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Re: looking for feedback about problems with braille displays and typing feedback

[Jennie Facer]

I have the same problem. 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> I wrote a while ago asking if anyone has typing feedback problems using 
> braille displays with the iPhone. Getting no answer I assume nobody has such 
> problems? Could anyone confirm that writing with braille display presents no 
> problem with VoiceOver announcing words when typed? 
> I am having an issue only when there is text after the input cursor. An 
> example of this is typing in an email message where there is already a 
> signature placed after the cursor. 
> 
> Thanks for any feedback about this. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Ioana 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: looking for feedback about problems with braille displays and typing feedback

[Scott Davert]

I've already filed that one on AppleVis and I will be doing so tonight
through the Feedback app. While it didn't start with the newest beta,
that doesn't mean it can't be reported that way. Smiles. I'm having
some other issues in 11.3 concerning text input. In messages
particularly, it seems that the braille driver is crashing. When I
type rapidly, VoiceOver will fall way behind early on. Have you
noticed this also?

Scott

On 4/11/18, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Thanks for your response. Hope that you and others with similar problem will
> consider reporting this to apple.
> Indeed the best way to deal with this for now is to turn off speech feedback
> completely.
> I find I got used to hearing if the word I typed was misspelled. I actually
> suggested to apple accessibility to add an option of having a sound for
> misspelled words that would be audible independent of the setting for
> VoiceOver feedback.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ioana
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ioana.
>> Yes, I had to turn on my speech to confirm this, but it is indeed
>> happening here as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Scott
>>
>>> On 4/11/18, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I wrote a while ago asking if anyone has typing feedback problems using
>>> braille displays with the iPhone. Getting no answer I assume nobody has
>>> such
>>> problems? Could anyone confirm that writing with braille display presents
>>> no
>>> problem with VoiceOver announcing words when typed?
>>> I am having an issue only when there is text after the input cursor. An
>>> example of this is typing in an email message where there is already a
>>> signature placed after the cursor.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any feedback about this.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Ioana
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: looking for feedback about problems with braille displays and typing feedback

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello, 
Thanks for your response. Hope that you and others with similar problem will 
consider reporting this to apple. 
Indeed the best way to deal with this for now is to turn off speech feedback 
completely. 
I find I got used to hearing if the word I typed was misspelled. I actually 
suggested to apple accessibility to add an option of having a sound for 
misspelled words that would be audible independent of the setting for VoiceOver 
feedback. 

Best regards, 

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ioana.
> Yes, I had to turn on my speech to confirm this, but it is indeed
> happening here as well.
> 
> Regards,
> Scott
> 
>> On 4/11/18, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I wrote a while ago asking if anyone has typing feedback problems using
>> braille displays with the iPhone. Getting no answer I assume nobody has such
>> problems? Could anyone confirm that writing with braille display presents no
>> problem with VoiceOver announcing words when typed?
>> I am having an issue only when there is text after the input cursor. An
>> example of this is typing in an email message where there is already a
>> signature placed after the cursor.
>> 
>> Thanks for any feedback about this.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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