RE: latest itunes update

[M. Taylor]

Hello Wui,

Then you should be notified of any updates to either Safari or iTunes.  If not, 
then in System Preferences, go to Software Update, and check for updates.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes update

I am using I tunes on a mac

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Wui,
> 
> If you wish to install the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC, 
> in your preferred browser, go to https://www.apple.com/itunes/.
> 
> It is always better to install iTunes from a fresh copy rather than doing so 
> while the application is running.
> 
> Note to those using the enterprise, non-supported version of iTunes.  Your 
> current install will support iOS 13.x so there is no need to update your copy 
> of iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: latest itunes update
> 
> Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I 
> tunes program
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
>> 
>> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
>> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog 
>> box to download and install the update.
>> 
>> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
>> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
>> have to download the update.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Anthony Borg
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
>> To: Anthony Borg 
>> Subject: latest itunes update
>> 
>> Hi listers
>> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the 
>> latest itunes to allow me to do so first. 
>> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>> 
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Re: latest itunes update

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I am using I tunes on a mac

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Wui,
> 
> If you wish to install the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC, in your 
> preferred browser, go to 
> https://www.apple.com/itunes/.
> 
> It is always better to install iTunes from a fresh copy rather than doing so 
> while the application is running.
> 
> Note to those using the enterprise, non-supported version of iTunes.  Your 
> current install will support iOS 13.x so there is no need to update your copy 
> of iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: latest itunes update
> 
> Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I tunes 
> program
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
>> 
>> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
>> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog 
>> box to download and install the update.
>> 
>> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
>> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
>> have to download the update.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Anthony Borg
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
>> To: Anthony Borg 
>> Subject: latest itunes update
>> 
>> Hi listers
>> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the 
>> latest itunes to allow me to do so first. 
>> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony 
>> 
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RE: latest itunes update

[M. Taylor]

Hello Wui,

If you wish to install the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC, in your 
preferred browser, go to 
https://www.apple.com/itunes/.

It is always better to install iTunes from a fresh copy rather than doing so 
while the application is running.

Note to those using the enterprise, non-supported version of iTunes.  Your 
current install will support iOS 13.x so there is no need to update your copy 
of iTunes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes update

Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I tunes program

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog box 
> to download and install the update.
> 
> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
> have to download the update.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
> To: Anthony Borg 
> Subject: latest itunes update
> 
> Hi listers
> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the latest 
> itunes to allow me to do so first. 
> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony 
> 
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Re: latest itunes update

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I tunes program

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog box 
> to download and install the update.
> 
> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
> have to download the update.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
> To: Anthony Borg 
> Subject: latest itunes update
> 
> Hi listers
> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the latest 
> itunes to allow me to do so first. 
> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony 
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RE: latest itunes update

[Rob Armstrong]

If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog box 
to download and install the update.

When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you have 
to download the update.

Rob

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Subject: latest itunes update

Hi listers
When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the latest 
itunes to allow me to do so first. 
Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

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latest itunes update

[Anthony Borg]

Hi listers 
When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the
latest itunes to allow me to do so first. 
Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
Thanks in advance 
Anthony 

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RE: column browser seems to be broken in the latest itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven’t upgraded yet and while I rarely use iTunes I won’t for now because I 
read on one of the lists that iTunes was once again broken. Unfortunately I 
don’t think there is much  you can do except write a disappointed email to 
Apple and ask them why on earth they keep doing this, they should know better 
by now and it’s sort of getting old.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: column browser seems to be broken in the latest itunes

Hello those of you who like to use itunes to play music. In the latest12.9 
update, the column browser seems to be broken. Even when I refresh the screen 
with insert-escape in jaws, a trick Mark taught me, I can’t seem to be able to 
navigate up and down the genras or albums when I choose “songs” from the 
sidebar.

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column browser seems to be broken in the latest itunes

[llumpkin]

Hello those of you who like to use itunes to play music. In the latest12.9
update, the column browser seems to be broken. Even when I refresh the
screen with insert-escape in jaws, a trick Mark taught me, I can't seem to
be able to navigate up and down the genras or albums when I choose "songs"
from the sidebar.

 

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Re: Latest ITunes doesn't sound the tri-tone as before

[Daniel McGee]

Not sure if this will help but have you told your iOS device that you want to 
trust this computer upon connecting by usb? 

> On 2 May 2018, at 03:40, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Running ITunes's latest, you know how when you connected your phone or 
> I-device, upon synching, ITunes would alert you via the tri-tone? What 
> setting would I need to change for it to resume this behavior I wonder? Or is 
> this a bug in ITunes's latest 12.7 on Windows?
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Latest ITunes doesn't sound the tri-tone as before

[Gerardo Corripio]

Running ITunes's latest, you know how when you connected your phone or 
I-device, upon synching, ITunes would alert you via the tri-tone? What 
setting would I need to change for it to resume this behavior I wonder? 
Or is this a bug in ITunes's latest 12.7 on Windows?


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Latest jaws and latest iTunes

[Tom Rash]

Sorry if this was sent twice. 

I'm trying to find a podcast on how to use iTunes with Jaws.  I mainly use
Jaws for music.  I'm not sure my entire library is available.  Also want to
learn how to edit the music files to include decades.  Just trying to get a
basic handle on iTunes.  Thanks. 

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Latest Jaws with latest iTunes

[Tom Rash]

Is there somewhere I could get a tutorial podcast for iTunes with Jaws?  I'm
not sure it is playing my entire library.  Just want to learn how to get a
handle on itunes.  I manily use it for music and want to make sure the
entire library is available and also want to be able to edit titles to
include 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, Etc.

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Backing up a voice dream library on a Windows PC with the latest iTunes

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
As some of you might remember, I have had issues in the past with my Voice 
Dream library getting totally screwed up or even entirely lost. That isn’t 
something I want to go through again. Smile. So I wonder if it is possible 
these days, with the new iTunes 12.7.1 I think it is, to fully back up a vdr 
library on a Windows PC. Then I could get it back later if something bad 
happened.
Mary


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is the latest itunes update safe?

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi People 

There is a new itunes update 12.5.5. Are there any issues related to 
accessibility? Can we still sync apps?

Regards
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Re: what's the alert sound mean in the latest ITunes

[Agent086b]

Thanks Anna, 
I have been sinking all three of our devices regularly with iTunes since the 
latest update.
Thanks anyway.
Max.
> On 7 Jan 2017, at 9:43 am, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had this issue for a while, but syncing my phone with iTunes seems to have 
> solved it.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, has there been an answer to this question? I have the same issue on my 
>> Mac with the latest iTunes.
>> Max.
>>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 1:16 pm, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just update  to the latest ITunes!
>>> and It has the alert sounds/ notification sounds from time to time.
>>> 
>>> what does it mean  for it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> tel: 6421 9950
>>> msn/window live messenger
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Re: what's the alert sound mean in the latest ITunes

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I had this issue for a while, but syncing my phone with iTunes seems to have 
solved it.

I hope that helps.

Anna



> On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi, has there been an answer to this question? I have the same issue on my 
> Mac with the latest iTunes.
> Max.
>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 1:16 pm, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just update  to the latest ITunes!
>> and It has the alert sounds/ notification sounds from time to time.
>> 
>> what does it mean  for it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ming
>> tel: 6421 9950
>> msn/window live messenger
>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
>> skype:
>> chungchiming9950
>> 
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>> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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Re: what's the alert sound mean in the latest ITunes

[Agent086b]

Hi, has there been an answer to this question? I have the same issue on my Mac 
with the latest iTunes.
Max.
> On 5 Jan 2017, at 1:16 pm, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just update  to the latest ITunes!
> and It has the alert sounds/ notification sounds from time to time.
> 
> what does it mean  for it?
> 
> 
> 
> Ming
> tel: 6421 9950
> msn/window live messenger
> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
> skype:
> chungchiming9950
> 
> face book:
> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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what's the alert sound mean in the latest ITunes

['Ming' via VIPhone]

Hi all,
I just update  to the latest ITunes!
 and It has the alert sounds/ notification sounds from time to time.

what does it mean  for it?



Ming
 tel: 6421 9950
 msn/window live messenger
 chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
 skype:
 chungchiming9950
 
 face book:
 http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1

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Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Arianna Sepulveda]

Oh, my God! I just updated to the latest version of iTunes, and the
checkboxes for picking which playlists get synced to your phone now
work just as well as they did in iTunes 11! I'm absolutely thrilled
with this development! Just for reference, I'm using iTunes with the
latest version of Windows 10 (Home edition, not the Insider build)
along with the latest version of NVDA! I'm so, so happy! I'm going to
tell Apple about this, and beg them to please keep doing whatever they
did that fixed things, and to never stop doing it! Lol. Clearly,
though, this was an iTunes issue, not a Windows 10 or screen reader
issue, as Sieghard and I figured out with our dialoguing back and
forth on this list. Anyhow, I'm super happy! I can't stop grinning!


Thanks,
Ari

On 12/16/16, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Yes, using the latest version of Jaws 18.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42,
> was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18
>
>
>
> Glad to hear it.  Are you using jaws and version 18?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42,
> was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18
>
>
>
> I updated my two W10 computers to the latest iTunes. I can now arrow around
> in my music library just fine now as I was not able to do that before the
> latest update.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42,
> was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18
>
>
>
> Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimberly
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42,
> was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18
>
>
>
> Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I
> am seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.
>
> For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about
> the same version?
>
> I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am
> running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not
> sure if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a
> lot of issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.
>
> The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.
>
>
>
> I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to
> selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long
> time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and
> genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by
> pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and
> everything I selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1
> album from an artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can
> actually mix and match in that you could select a particular genre like POP,
> then you could select a number of artists from other genres and albums from
> yet other genres or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you
> may have.
>
>
>
> With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed"
> for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have
> on my phone.
>
> If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then
> said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be
> removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the
> letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it,
> focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and
> down arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and
> once again activating Apply would

RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Mr. Ed]

Yes, using the latest version of Jaws 18.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Glad to hear it.  Are you using jaws and version 18?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

I updated my two W10 computers to the latest iTunes. I can now arrow around in 
my music library just fine now as I was not able to do that before the latest 
update.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi,

 

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.

For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?

I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.

The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

 

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

 

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.

If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

 

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

 

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.

When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.

I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 

RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Larry Lumpkin]

Let us know would you?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Hi Larry,

 

Nothing I can suggest, I am seeing this on my PC at work where I still use 
Windows 7. I'll update iTunes tonight on my new Windows 10 laptop at home and 
hopefully I'll find it is the same, but who knows.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.

For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?

I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.

The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

 

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

 

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.

If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

 

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

 

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.

When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.

I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <

RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Larry Lumpkin]

Glad to hear it.  Are you using jaws and version 18?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

I updated my two W10 computers to the latest iTunes. I can now arrow around in 
my music library just fine now as I was not able to do that before the latest 
update.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.

For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?

I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.

The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

 

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

 

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.

If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

 

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

 

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.

When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.

I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Latest iT

RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Mr. Ed]

I updated my two W10 computers to the latest iTunes. I can now arrow around in 
my music library just fine now as I was not able to do that before the latest 
update.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi,

 

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.

For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?

I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.

The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

 

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

 

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.

If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

 

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

 

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.

When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.

I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is chargi

RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

Nothing I can suggest, I am seeing this on my PC at work where I still use 
Windows 7. I'll update iTunes tonight on my new Windows 10 laptop at home and 
hopefully I'll find it is the same, but who knows.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi,

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.
For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?
I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.
The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.
If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.
When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.
I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.

RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Larry Lumpkin]

Anyone seeing this improvement for windows 10?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.

For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?

I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.

The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

 

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

 

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.

If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

 

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

 

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.

When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.

I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

 

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jerry

-- 

Re: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Kimberly]

Wow, this is great news. I'm going to do the update now.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
> seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.
> For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about 
> the same version?
> I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
> running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not 
> sure if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot 
> of issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.
> The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.
>  
> I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
> selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
> time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
> genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
> pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything 
> I selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
> artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
> match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
> select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
> or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.
>  
> With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
> for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
> my phone.
> If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
> said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
> removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
> letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
> focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and 
> down arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and 
> once again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.
>  
> With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
> spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button 
> would sync them.
>  
> I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 
> laptop is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge 
> accessibility improvement.
> When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
> have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
> through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
> each item and all in all this is great news.
> I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not 
> the fault of Windows or the screenreader.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18
>  
> The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
> think its functionality is very poor.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jerry White
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18
>  
> After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
> all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
> selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
> giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the 
> tab key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it 
> spells out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes 
> doesn't open when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is 
> charging, so I know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if 
> I open iTunes when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?
>  
> I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if 
> they were conflicting somehow, but no luck!
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help!
> Jerry
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RE: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Larry Lumpkin]

Sieghart,

I do have this itunes version and am not seeing the accessibility improvements 
here yet.  I am running latest everything—windows 10, jaws 18 and itunes.  Can 
you suggest anything I need to do?  Thanks.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: 
Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

Hi,

 

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.

For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?

I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.

The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

 

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

 

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.

If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

 

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

 

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.

When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.

I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

 

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

 

Thanks in adv

RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Rose Combs]

Once they started the 12 series of iTunes it has been horrible in my opinion.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

 

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jerry

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Fantastic accessibility improvements with iTunes 12.5.4.42, was: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

I was going to post a new message about the latest iTunes update because I am 
seeing some fantastic accessibility improvements.
For those who posted about having a worse experience, are we talking about the 
same version?
I just opened iTunes on my PC at work and it said there was an update. I am 
running Windows 7 on this PC with the latest update of Jaws 18, so I'm not sure 
if it's the latest Jaws 18 update or the iTunes update which fixed a lot of 
issues, but since Jaws didn't mention iTunes I assume it is iTunes.
The version I just downloaded is 12.5.4.42.

I connected my iPhone and I see full accessibility restored when it comes to 
selecting and syncing apps, music and tones. This has been broken for a long 
time, but now Jaws once again goes into list views of artists, albums and 
genres and each artist, album and genre has a checkbox which I can check by 
pressing the spacebar, I can then tap to Apply and activate it and everything I 
selected will sync. I tried it by selecting 5 artists and 1 album from an 
artist I hadn't selected and it synced 185 songs, so you can actually mix and 
match in that you could select a particular genre like POP, then you could 
select a number of artists from other genres and albums from yet other genres 
or from artists where you don't want to sync all albums you may have.

With apps I found that Jaws read the app in the list and it said "Installed" 
for apps which I didn't have on my iPhone and "Remove" for apps I did have on 
my phone.
If I went to an app which said "Install" and I pressed the spacebar it then 
said "To be Installed", if the app said "Remove" then it would say "To be 
removed". The only thing is that if you are way down in the list say at the 
letter S or T and you press the spacebar on an app to install or remove it, 
focus jumps all the way back up to the top. But once you use page down and down 
arrow to get back to where you were the item was correctly marked and once 
again activating Apply would install/remove whatever you flagged.

With tones the list of all my ringtones was once again read by Jaws and again 
spacebar would check or uncheck the tones and activating the Apply button would 
sync them.

I didn't have time yet to look at iTunes File Transfer and my Windows 10 laptop 
is at home so I couldn't try it there. But this is a huge accessibility 
improvement.
When I'm in the music library and have the column browser activated I still 
have to refresh the screen a lot for Jaws to read my selection as I arrow 
through genres, artists and albums, but it also does no longer say "L1" with 
each item and all in all this is great news.
I assume that the changes are with iTunes which goes to show that it is not the 
fault of Windows or the screenreader.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

Thanks in advance for your help!
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RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Larry Lumpkin]

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

 

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jerry

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Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

[Jerry White]

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads
the selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now
keeps giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I
press the tab key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and
then it spells out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also,
iTunes doesn't open when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says
it is charging, so I know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes
even if I open iTunes when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

 

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if
they were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jerry

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Re: latest itunes

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
What about Blind Tunes Jaws scripts?
Some time ago it was free than it started to cost about 5 bucks
  and I didn't heard about it in a while.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

2.9.2016. u 15:55, Russ Kiehne je
  napisao/la:

That I can't say.  I do know there are third party
  itunes replacements but they are not accessible.
  
  
  -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 6:36 PM
  
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  Subject: Re: latest itunes
  
  
  Is this possible? Does Apple release the interface specifications
  for
  
  their devices? If so, are these free or do you have to pay Apple a
  fee
  
  to acquire and use such specifications?
  
  
  On 01/09/16 08:50, Russ Kiehne wrote:
  
  I just wished a third party Software
developer would come out with a

itunes replacement that would be fully accessible!


*From:* Gordan Radić

*Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM

*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* Re: latest itunes



Hi!


I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the
topic

thread.


I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are
responsible for

how will their respective products will interact with different
kindsof

software on Windows compatible PCs.


However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software

developers have the means and ability to make their apps more
simple,

more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the
screen

readers can use the most of the app interface with no further
adjusting,

making scripts, set files or external modules.


iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and
graphically

furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short,
iTunes is

just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing
more

nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.


Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind
of tree

view with various categories and the right side with options,
settings

and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like
Winamp

Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and
usable

to the core.


OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which
is true

and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but
similar

dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and
still

are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of
Utorrent,

Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind
of

interface.


If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have
a

better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who
should know it.




S poštovanjem

*Gordan Radić*


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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but
  others have pointed out on this
  
  list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the
  responsibility of
  
  the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility
  specifications,
  
  so it's up to the app developer to follow those
  specifications. The
  
  same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an
  application for
  
  Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to
  make your
  
  application accessible.
  
  
  

Re: latest itunes

[Christopher Chaltain]

 sure hope that VFO is having talks with
Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes,
but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was
actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I
talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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Re: latest itunes

[Russ Kiehne]

That I can't say.  I do know there are third party itunes replacements but 
they are not accessible.


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes

Is this possible? Does Apple release the interface specifications for
their devices? If so, are these free or do you have to pay Apple a fee
to acquire and use such specifications?

On 01/09/16 08:50, Russ Kiehne wrote:

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a
itunes replacement that would be fully accessible!

*From:* Gordan Radić
*Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: latest itunes


Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know 
it.




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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



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Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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Re: latest itunes

[Gordan Radić]

ecifications. The
  
  same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an
  application for
  
  Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to
  make your
  
  application accessible.
  
  
  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third
  party
  
  screen reader developer option. It means there's one more
  interested
  
  party out there worrying about whether I can access an
  application or
  
  not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make
  their
  
  application accessible on a competitors platform or have their
  screen
  
  reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application
  accessible?
  
  
  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
  
  Well, while it may not all be up to
Freedom Scientific or VFO or

whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility
of Apple and

the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having
talks with Apple

about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple
what Apple

needs to do so that they can do what they must do.


Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window
Eyes, but I

think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws
was actually

working at least as good or better and now that both
screenreaders are

under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO
get their

wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an
improvement to

accessibility and not a reduction.






Regards,


Sieghard




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    *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* latest itunes

        
    

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with
jaws?  I talked

to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re
using jaws,

it’s their problem.




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Re: latest itunes

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree with what you say below except that i Tunes is much more than 
just a player that let's you sync your media content with your device. 
It also manages your media, let's you access streaming content and 
purchase content from the i Tunes store. Personally, I'd rather see some 
of these functions broken out into simpler more straight forward 
applications.


On 01/09/16 05:43, Gordan Radić wrote:

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.


S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* <mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com>

Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija <http://www.nemoviz.org>

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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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Re: latest itunes

[Christopher Chaltain]

Is this possible? Does Apple release the interface specifications for 
their devices? If so, are these free or do you have to pay Apple a fee 
to acquire and use such specifications?


On 01/09/16 08:50, Russ Kiehne wrote:

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a
itunes replacement that would be fully accessible!

*From:* Gordan Radić
*Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: latest itunes


Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.



S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić*

Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija <http://www.nemoviz.org>

Pišite nam  Posjetitenas na Facebooku
<http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> Pratite nas na Twitteru
<http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014>

1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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Re: latest itunes

[Russ Kiehne]

If so, I sure would buy it.

From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: latest itunes

We might see if Christopher Toth might write something like q-tunes to go with 
his other q products (q-read, q-feed, q-cast).

 

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes

 

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes 
replacement that would be fully accessible!

 

From: Gordan Radić 

Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: latest itunes

 

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will 
their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on 
Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers 
have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and 
more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the 
app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external 
modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished 
than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player 
with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it 
could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view 
with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls 
for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or 
Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it 
is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found 
in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right 
now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there 
are tones of apps with this kind of interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better 
chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.

 

S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić


 

 


 
 
 

1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

  I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list 
that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app 
developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the 
app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to 
a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of 
information on how to make your application accessible. 

  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen 
reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there 
worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a 
priority can it be for a company to make their application accessible on a 
competitors platform or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a 
competitors application accessible? 

  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: 



Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or 
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and 
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple 
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple 
needs to do so that they can do what they must do. 

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I 
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually 
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are 
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their 
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to 
accessibility and not a reduction. 





Regards, 

Sieghard 



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin 
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* latest itunes 



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked 
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, 
it’s their problem. 



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RE: latest itunes

[Larry Lumpkin]

We might see if Christopher Toth might write something like q-tunes to go with 
his other q products (q-read, q-feed, q-cast).

 

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes

 

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes 
replacement that would be fully accessible!

 

From: Gordan Radić 

Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: latest itunes

 

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will 
their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on 
Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers 
have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and 
more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the 
app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external 
modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished 
than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player 
with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it 
could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view 
with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls 
for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or 
Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it 
is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found 
in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right 
now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there 
are tones of apps with this kind of interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better 
chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.

 

S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić


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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list that 
the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app 
developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the 
app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to 
a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of 
information on how to make your application accessible. 

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen reader 
developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there worrying 
about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a priority can it 
be for a company to make their application accessible on a competitors platform 
or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a competitors 
application accessible? 

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: 



Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or 
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and 
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple 
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple 
needs to do so that they can do what they must do. 

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I 
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually 
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are 
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their 
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to 
accessibility and not a reduction. 





Regards, 

Sieghard 



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin 
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* latest itunes 



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked 
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, 
it’s their problem. 



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Re: latest itunes

[Russ Kiehne]

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes 
replacement that would be fully accessible!

From: Gordan Radić 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: latest itunes

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will 
their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on 
Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers 
have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and 
more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the 
app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external 
modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished 
than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player 
with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it 
could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view 
with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls 
for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or 
Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it 
is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found 
in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right 
now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there 
are tones of apps with this kind of interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better 
chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.



S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić




1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

  I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list 
that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app 
developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the 
app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to 
a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of 
information on how to make your application accessible. 

  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen 
reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there 
worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a 
priority can it be for a company to make their application accessible on a 
competitors platform or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a 
competitors application accessible? 

  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: 

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or 
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and 
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple 
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple 
needs to do so that they can do what they must do. 

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I 
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually 
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are 
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their 
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to 
accessibility and not a reduction. 





Regards, 

Sieghard 



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Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked 
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, 
it’s their problem. 



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Re: latest itunes

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the
  topic thread.
I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are
  responsible for how will their respective products will interact
  with different kindsof software on Windows compatible PCs.
However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
  developers have the means and ability to make their apps more
  simple, more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the
  screen readers can use the most of the app interface with no
  further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external modules.
iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
  furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short,
  iTunes is just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices,
  nothing more nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than
  it is.
Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind
  of tree view with various categories and the right side with
  options, settings and controls for selected category. Tis can
  easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings
  Center, both accessible and usable to the core.
OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which
  is true and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be
  accessible but similar dialogs found in other apps are not screen
  reader supported and still are accessible. Right now I can think
  of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there
  are tones of apps with this kind of interface.
If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have
  a better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who
  should know it.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain
  je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have
  pointed out on this list that the accessibility of App Store apps
  is the responsibility of the app developers. Apple publishes the
  accessibility specifications, so it's up to the app developer to
  follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to a
  developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also
  plenty of information on how to make your application accessible.
  
  
  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
  screen reader developer option. It means there's one more
  interested party out there worrying about whether I can access an
  application or not. How much of a priority can it be for a company
  to make their application accessible on a competitors platform or
  have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a competitors
  application accessible?
  
  
  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
  
  Well, while it may not all be up to
Freedom Scientific or VFO or

whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of
Apple and

the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks
with Apple

about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what
Apple

needs to do so that they can do what they must do.


Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window
Eyes, but I

think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was
actually

working at least as good or better and now that both
screenreaders are

under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get
their

wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement
to

accessibility and not a reduction.






Regards,


Sieghard




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    *Subject:* latest itunes




Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws? 
I talked

to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using
jaws,

it’s their problem.




 

Re: latest itunes

[Christopher Chaltain]

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this 
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of 
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so 
it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The same 
reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for Windows, 
where there's also plenty of information on how to make your application 
accessible.


This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen 
reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out 
there worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How 
much of a priority can it be for a company to make their application 
accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen reader jump 
through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?


On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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RE: latest itunes

[Larry Lumpkin]

Very well put.  Thank you very much.

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: latest itunes

 

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they 
are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and the screenreader 
makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple about iTunes 
accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple needs to do so that 
they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I think 
for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually working at 
least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are under the same hat 
so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their wires crossed in a way that 
is going to result in an improvement to accessibility and not a reduction.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: latest itunes

 

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked to 
apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, it’s their 
problem.

 

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RE: latest itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they 
are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and the screenreader 
makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple about iTunes 
accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple needs to do so that 
they can do what they must do.
Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I think 
for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually working at 
least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are under the same hat 
so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their wires crossed in a way that 
is going to result in an improvement to accessibility and not a reduction.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: latest itunes

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked to 
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latest itunes

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked to
apple accessibility and their take is that since we're using jaws, it's
their problem.

 

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RE: latest itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

If you mean really accessible that would be iTunes 11, but the problem is that 
as far as I know you can’t use that any more with iOS 9 let alone the upcoming 
iOS 10.


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Larry Lumpkin
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: latest itunes

Well, I know I hluldn’t’a done it.  Can someone point me to the last 
jaws-accessible version of itunes so I can download it?  Thanks.

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latest itunes

[Larry Lumpkin]

Well, I know I hluldn't'a done it.  Can someone point me to the last
jaws-accessible version of itunes so I can download it?  Thanks.

 

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Re: Latest iTunes

[Gary Petraccaro]

One thing to bear in mind about filenames in iTunes.  The Windows names are 
truncated when you look at them in Windows Explorer.  This has held true since 
at least 2010.  Sometimes that's a factor.  Otherwise see my earlier message of 
a few minutes ago and thanks for this one.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 1:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Latest iTunes


  Hi Gary,

   

  I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 
as my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the 
Apps area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could 
not tab forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the 
Update All button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and 
then use Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now 
in 12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, 
Jaws still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow 
around, you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what 
app it has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, 
then tab again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

   

  I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find 
using a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.

  Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
  Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

   

  I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any 
improvements for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro 

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

    Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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[Gary Petraccaro]

I'm dealing specifically with podcasts and I'm definitely not having your 
success.  My version of Window-Eyes is 9.1.
I did find out one of the reasons I had the problem I did with i a long 
conversion with Accessibility with an excellent advisor.  
In the tree view of podcasts, iTunes collapses the tree so that only the top 
item of any podcast shows.  Some of my 'casts have several shows to any given 
date.  Those additional shows were not showing at all.  
The advisor said to try 3 right arrows in succession.  I did and nothing 
happened.
Then she said to try a faster 3 right arrows.  That worked but with no sound or 
change of wording from the speaker.
Up and down cursor did show that the tree had expanded.
The same applied if I went left arrow 3 times quickly.  No voice 
acknowledgement but there was a change.
Without someone viewing the screen either from my end or on Apple's side, there 
would have been no way whatsoever that I would have known what was going on.
That qualifies as very bad design.
I have no idea where else it might rear its ugly head.

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  From: Afik Sofir 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Latest iTunes


  The latest update works very well with window-eyes, that’s for my expirence.

   

   

   

   

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Gary Petraccaro
  Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

   

  I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

   

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From: Russ Kiehne 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any 
improvements for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro 

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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RE: Latest iTunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When the word “native” or “stock” is used in connection with an app it 
typically refers to one of the apps which are preinstalled on the iPhone and, 
which at this point can’t be deleted from the iPhone. These are apps like Mail, 
Clock, Calendar, Contacts, Wallet, Notes, Voice Memos etc. “Podcasts” is also 
one of these apps which means if you want a basic Podcasts app you can use it, 
some people like third-party apps like Downcast or Overcast which are probably 
the two most mentioned apps both on this list and also in Podcasts like the 
Today in iOS Podcast. I think Overcast is now free, Downcast I think is a 
couple of Dollars. I always used to like Downcast, but at one point started 
using Apple’s Podcasts app which is already on the iPhone as it does the trick 
for what I do. I have maybe 6 or 8 Podcasts I subscribe to and to which I 
listen to on a more or less regular bases. One thing I like with Podcast is the 
fact that it integrates with SIRI. This means I can say “Play the latest 
episode of the Today in iOS Podcast or while a Podcast is playing and there is 
a section which doesn’t interest me I can bring up SIRI and say “Skip 2 minutes 
and 30 seconds or even skip 7 minutes. Of course Podcast apps have buttons to 
skip by various time intervals, but by using SIRI I can make it any time 
interval I want from saying to rewind 8 seconds if I just missed something to 
whatever I want.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

Hi, Sieghard.
Is 'native Podcast' a name of the app?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

Hi Gary,

I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 as 
my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the Apps 
area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could not tab 
forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the Update All 
button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and then use 
Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now in 
12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, Jaws 
still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow around, 
you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what app it 
has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, then tab 
again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find using 
a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.
Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: Russ Kiehne<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?
Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro<mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to sh

RE: Latest iTunes

[Fazil]

Hi, Sieghard.

Is 'native Podcast' a name of the app?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

 

Hi Gary,

 

I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 as 
my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the Apps 
area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could not tab 
forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the Update All 
button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and then use 
Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now in 
12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, Jaws 
still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow around, 
you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what app it 
has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, then tab 
again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

 

I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find using 
a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.

Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro <mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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RE: Latest iTunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gary,

I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 as 
my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the Apps 
area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could not tab 
forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the Update All 
button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and then use 
Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now in 
12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, Jaws 
still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow around, 
you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what app it 
has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, then tab 
again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find using 
a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.
Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: Russ Kiehne<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?
Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro<mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.
Good luck.

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RE: Latest iTunes

[Afik Sofir]

The latest update works very well with window-eyes, that’s for my expirence.

 

 

 

 

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Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro <mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Russ Kiehne 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Latest iTunes


  Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any 
improvements for of us who use windows?
  Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

  From: Gary Petraccaro 
  Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Latest iTunes

  I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  
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RE: Latest iTunes

[Afik Sofir]

Hi,

 

Yes, the latest version is accessible to Windows.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro <mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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Re: Latest iTunes

[Russ Kiehne]

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?
Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  
Good luck.

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Latest iTunes

[Gary Petraccaro]

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  
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RE: Directions Requested: Sending NonMusic Files to VoiceDream or other Apps with Latest iTunes and Jaws 17

[Richard Turner]

I’m not a Jaws user, so I will only say that file hsaring is now awful with a 
screen reader.

For Voice Dream Reader, you’ll save a lot of frustration if you use DropBox 
instead.

 

Some apps may not have another way.  I hope someone can give you the directions 
you want.

 

Richard

 

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Terrie Terlau
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Directions Requested: Sending NonMusic Files to VoiceDream or other 
Apps with Latest iTunes and Jaws 17

 

Hi all,

If anyone could point me to directions for doing the above I would appreciate 
it. If such directions don't exist, I would be willing to pay for someone's 
time if they wrote out directions. If agreeable, they provide the knowledge, I 
pay for their time, and we both share directions with the list. I would also 
pay someone for phone tutoring, though I would really prefer to find a way to 
share with the list.

I realize that many of you good people would be glad to put together directions 
without pay, but I would like to support this effort and I surely can't support 
it with knowledge (smile)!

Best,

Terrie Terlau

terrie...@gmail.com <mailto:terrie...@gmail.com> 

 

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Directions Requested: Sending NonMusic Files to VoiceDream or other Apps with Latest iTunes and Jaws 17

[Terrie Terlau]

Hi all,

If anyone could point me to directions for doing the above I would
appreciate it. If such directions don't exist, I would be willing to pay for
someone's time if they wrote out directions. If agreeable, they provide the
knowledge, I pay for their time, and we both share directions with the list.
I would also pay someone for phone tutoring, though I would really prefer to
find a way to share with the list.

I realize that many of you good people would be glad to put together
directions without pay, but I would like to support this effort and I surely
can't support it with knowledge (smile)!

Best,

Terrie Terlau

terrie...@gmail.com

 

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How to sync apps from the latest ITunes to my IPhone 6

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

I can't seem to either remember or figure out how to sync my apps that had
saved and or backed up from the latest version of ITunes to my IPhone 6 as
can see the apps on the screen within ITunes; but, can't seem to get them to
sync or download and install them to my phone.

So any help and or assistance will greatly be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

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Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[englishrider91]

Nope, that's definitely not the problem. I don't have any other USB device is 
connected to my computer. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I'm going to do 
some more Googling, and see what I can come up with something for why this is 
happening.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 14, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Brett  wrote:
> 
> 'Hi, 
> 
> Another thing you could check is that your iPhone is the only USB connected 
> device to your computer. When ever I forget to unplug my USB harddrive before 
> connecting my iPhone, it is never seen by Itunes. 
> 
> When this happens, I need to close Itunes, umplug my phone and USB harddrive, 
> then launch iTunes and then reconnect my phone. All then works as it should. 
> 
> Not sure if this is your issue, so just throwing it out there in case it 
> helps. 
> 
> Cheers, Brett. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2015, at 11:18 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> When you are tabbing across, which seems like in Windows we get to do a lot 
>> of tabbing, listen for the button that says iPhone. hit the spacebar on it, 
>> then use the devices option on the file menu and you should find you can now 
>> backup, transfer purchases and sync with no problem.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Arianna Sepulveda  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
>>> things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.
>>> 
>>> One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
>>> tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
>>> and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
>>> this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
>>> I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
>>> the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
>>> popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
>>> frustrating.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 Hi Arianna,
 
 Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it 
 either
 singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
 number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
 vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
 command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
 Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
 selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
 the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with 
 it
 with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
 to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
 can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
 to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
 all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
 Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes 
 take
 effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
 
 One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
 want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
 music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
 all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
 make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
 
 It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
 items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
 then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
 vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item 
 you
 wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key 
 to
 add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed 
 your
 selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
 items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
 menu to make changes.
 
 Hope this will help somewhat.
 
 Andrew
> On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda 
> wrote:
> 
> Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
> kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
> settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
> you go! Thanks a heap!
> 
> If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
> grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
> has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
> read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fie

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Brett]

'Hi, 

Another thing you could check is that your iPhone is the only USB connected 
device to your computer. When ever I forget to unplug my USB harddrive before 
connecting my iPhone, it is never seen by Itunes. 

When this happens, I need to close Itunes, umplug my phone and USB harddrive, 
then launch iTunes and then reconnect my phone. All then works as it should. 

Not sure if this is your issue, so just throwing it out there in case it helps. 

Cheers, Brett. 
 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 14 Dec 2015, at 11:18 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> When you are tabbing across, which seems like in Windows we get to do a lot 
> of tabbing, listen for the button that says iPhone. hit the spacebar on it, 
> then use the devices option on the file menu and you should find you can now 
> backup, transfer purchases and sync with no problem.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Arianna Sepulveda  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
>> things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.
>> 
>> One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
>> tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
>> and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
>> this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
>> I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
>> the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
>> popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
>> frustrating.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> Hi Arianna,
>>> 
>>> Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it either
>>> singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
>>> number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
>>> vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
>>> command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
>>> Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
>>> selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
>>> the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with it
>>> with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
>>> to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
>>> can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
>>> to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
>>> all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
>>> Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes take
>>> effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
>>> 
>>> One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
>>> want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
>>> music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
>>> all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
>>> make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
>>> 
>>> It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
>>> items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
>>> then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
>>> vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item you
>>> wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key to
>>> add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed your
>>> selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
>>> items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
>>> menu to make changes.
>>> 
>>> Hope this will help somewhat.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda 
 wrote:
 
 Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
 kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
 settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
 you go! Thanks a heap!
 
 If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
 grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
 has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
 read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
 Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
 iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Arianna,
> 
> First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check
> box
> for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.
> I
> assume that you do not have Ap

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Gianni,

you are welcome.  I just need to pay tribute to all those people on the list 
from whom I have been learning for years.  That's how knowledge is being passed 
on and this is truly an inspiring way, especially that it is free and for once 
it has nothing to do with money or the dreaded word competition'.

All the best

Andrew
> On 14 Dec 2015, at 13:23, Gianni  wrote:
> 
> Thanks again Andrew, you gave me again some very good tips. Andrew you are 
> the best man.
> 
> 
> 
> Gianni
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Op 14-dec.-2015 om 08:51 heeft Andrew Lamanche  > het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi Ari,
>> 
>> I'm sorry you are having such a bad time on itunes in Windows.  Maybe you 
>> could have a look in itunes preferences to see whether anything there needs 
>> adjusting so that your iphone shows up in the main window.  Since the menu 
>> items for your iphone under devices are dimmed, it would suggest that itunes 
>> is not playing nicely with iphone.  Also, as a desperate suggestion, try a 
>> search in google on the subject of itunes not recognising your iphone.  You 
>> may be surprised how many sighted people might have a similar issue and 
>> sometimes one can learn what to do.
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 23:24, Arianna Sepulveda >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
>>> things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.
>>> 
>>> One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
>>> tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
>>> and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
>>> this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
>>> I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
>>> the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
>>> popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
>>> frustrating.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche mailto:ioani...@me.com>> 
>>> wrote:
 Hi Arianna,
 
 Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it 
 either
 singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
 number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
 vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
 command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
 Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
 selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
 the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with 
 it
 with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
 to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
 can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
 to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
 all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
 Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes 
 take
 effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
 
 One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
 want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
 music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
 all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
 make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
 
 It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
 items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
 then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
 vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item 
 you
 wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key 
 to
 add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed 
 your
 selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
 items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
 menu to make changes.
 
 Hope this will help somewhat.
 
 Andrew
> On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda  >
> wrote:
> 
> Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
> kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
> settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
> you go! Thanks a heap!
> 
> If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
> grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The G

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Gianni]

Thanks again Andrew, you gave me again some very good tips. Andrew you are the 
best man.



Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
Sent from my iPhone

> Op 14-dec.-2015 om 08:51 heeft Andrew Lamanche  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> I'm sorry you are having such a bad time on itunes in Windows.  Maybe you 
> could have a look in itunes preferences to see whether anything there needs 
> adjusting so that your iphone shows up in the main window.  Since the menu 
> items for your iphone under devices are dimmed, it would suggest that itunes 
> is not playing nicely with iphone.  Also, as a desperate suggestion, try a 
> search in google on the subject of itunes not recognising your iphone.  You 
> may be surprised how many sighted people might have a similar issue and 
> sometimes one can learn what to do.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andrew
>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 23:24, Arianna Sepulveda  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
>> things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.
>> 
>> One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
>> tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
>> and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
>> this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
>> I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
>> the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
>> popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
>> frustrating.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> Hi Arianna,
>>> 
>>> Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it either
>>> singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
>>> number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
>>> vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
>>> command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
>>> Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
>>> selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
>>> the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with it
>>> with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
>>> to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
>>> can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
>>> to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
>>> all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
>>> Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes take
>>> effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
>>> 
>>> One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
>>> want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
>>> music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
>>> all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
>>> make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
>>> 
>>> It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
>>> items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
>>> then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
>>> vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item you
>>> wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key to
>>> add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed your
>>> selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
>>> items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
>>> menu to make changes.
>>> 
>>> Hope this will help somewhat.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda 
 wrote:
 
 Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
 kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
 settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
 you go! Thanks a heap!
 
 If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
 grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
 has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
 read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
 Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
 iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Arianna,
> 
> First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check
> box
> for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.
> I
> assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don'

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Ari,

I'm sorry you are having such a bad time on itunes in Windows.  Maybe you could 
have a look in itunes preferences to see whether anything there needs adjusting 
so that your iphone shows up in the main window.  Since the menu items for your 
iphone under devices are dimmed, it would suggest that itunes is not playing 
nicely with iphone.  Also, as a desperate suggestion, try a search in google on 
the subject of itunes not recognising your iphone.  You may be surprised how 
many sighted people might have a similar issue and sometimes one can learn what 
to do.

Good luck

Andrew
> On 13 Dec 2015, at 23:24, Arianna Sepulveda  wrote:
> 
> Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
> things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.
> 
> One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
> tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
> and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
> this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
> I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
> the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
> popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
> frustrating.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> Hi Arianna,
>> 
>> Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it either
>> singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
>> number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
>> vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
>> command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
>> Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
>> selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
>> the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with it
>> with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
>> to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
>> can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
>> to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
>> all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
>> Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes take
>> effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
>> 
>> One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
>> want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
>> music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
>> all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
>> make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
>> 
>> It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
>> items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
>> then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
>> vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item you
>> wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key to
>> add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed your
>> selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
>> items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
>> menu to make changes.
>> 
>> Hope this will help somewhat.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
>>> kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
>>> settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
>>> you go! Thanks a heap!
>>> 
>>> If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
>>> grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
>>> has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
>>> read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
>>> Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
>>> iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 Hi Arianna,
 
 First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check
 box
 for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.
 I
 assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don't need
 this
 option to be checked.
 
 I too have the button you are talking about set to songs and my music
 appears in a table.  This button is still there to the left of the grid
 but
 it is probably set to "album" or something similar and that's why your
 music
 appears in the grid.  If you tr

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Richard Turner]

When you are tabbing across, which seems like in Windows we get to do a lot of 
tabbing, listen for the button that says iPhone. hit the spacebar on it, then 
use the devices option on the file menu and you should find you can now backup, 
transfer purchases and sync with no problem.
Richard


> On Dec 13, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Arianna Sepulveda  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
> things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.
> 
> One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
> tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
> and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
> this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
> I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
> the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
> popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
> frustrating.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> Hi Arianna,
>> 
>> Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it either
>> singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
>> number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
>> vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
>> command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
>> Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
>> selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
>> the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with it
>> with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
>> to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
>> can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
>> to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
>> all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
>> Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes take
>> effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
>> 
>> One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
>> want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
>> music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
>> all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
>> make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
>> 
>> It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
>> items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
>> then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
>> vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item you
>> wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key to
>> add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed your
>> selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
>> items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
>> menu to make changes.
>> 
>> Hope this will help somewhat.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
>>> kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
>>> settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
>>> you go! Thanks a heap!
>>> 
>>> If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
>>> grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
>>> has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
>>> read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
>>> Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
>>> iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 Hi Arianna,
 
 First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check
 box
 for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.
 I
 assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don't need
 this
 option to be checked.
 
 I too have the button you are talking about set to songs and my music
 appears in a table.  This button is still there to the left of the grid
 but
 it is probably set to "album" or something similar and that's why your
 music
 appears in the grid.  If you try and press on whatever button appears to
 the
 left of your grid, you will hear a familiar sound for a popup window.
 There
 you will have various options including "songs" and some other options
 too
 which I don't quite understand yet.
 
 Once you've got yo

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Arianna Sepulveda]

Thanks again, Andrew. Lol I actually use Windows, but I can translate
things from Mac to Windows pretty easily.

One more question. I can't seem to find the devices button. I've even
tried using the devices submenu in the file menu to do stuff like sync
and backup my iPhone, and the items are greyed out. I don't know why
this is, but I've restarted both the phone and computer with no luck.
I have also made sure to authorize the computer, so that shouldn't be
the issue. Also, I keep getting the trust this computer message
popping up on my iPhone when I plug it into the computer. This is very
frustrating.


Thanks,
Ari

On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Arianna,
>
> Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it either
> singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a
> number of items in which case you can select them and - either press
> vo+shift+m for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination
> command+i. A dialog window will open and there you have several tabs.
> Usually the first on the left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say
> selected and then you will know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to
> the right where you will encounter scroll area. You need to interact with it
> with vo+shfit+down arrow.  In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need
> to stop interacting with the scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you
> can go left and choose another tab like options.  'And again you will need
> to find the scroll area to interact with it and make your changes.  Explore
> all the tabs so that you become more familiar with the changes available.
> Once you have finished, you need to find ok button so that your changes take
> effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but it will be worth it.
>
> One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance
> want to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your
> music browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them
> all with command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can
> make your changes for all the tracks simultaneously.
>
> It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of
> items.  The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and
> then use the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use
> vo+down arrow to move down or up the list and when you've found the item you
> wish to add to the list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key to
> add it to selection. Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed your
> selection, you can double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the
> items that are currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual
> menu to make changes.
>
> Hope this will help somewhat.
>
> Andrew
>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
>> kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
>> settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
>> you go! Thanks a heap!
>>
>> If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
>> grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
>> has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
>> read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
>> Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
>> iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
>> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> Hi Arianna,
>>>
>>> First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check
>>> box
>>> for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.
>>> I
>>> assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don't need
>>> this
>>> option to be checked.
>>>
>>> I too have the button you are talking about set to songs and my music
>>> appears in a table.  This button is still there to the left of the grid
>>> but
>>> it is probably set to "album" or something similar and that's why your
>>> music
>>> appears in the grid.  If you try and press on whatever button appears to
>>> the
>>> left of your grid, you will hear a familiar sound for a popup window.
>>> There
>>> you will have various options including "songs" and some other options
>>> too
>>> which I don't quite understand yet.
>>>
>>> Once you've got your table of music, you can then go to itunes menu with
>>> vo+m and arrow to the right to the view menu and arrow down to "column
>>> browser" submenu which you need to expand with right arrow and there you
>>> will find "show column browser" item on which you press enter.  You can
>>> customise what categories will appear in your music browser by going back
>>> to
>>> the same menu item under view menu and checking the categories you want
>>> to
>>> have appear.
>>>
>>> Hope this hel

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Arianna,

Once you find the items you wish to edit tags of, - and you can do it either 
singly if necessary or else if you are changing something that refers to a 
number of items in which case you can select them and - either press vo+shift+m 
for contextual menu or try the shortcut key combination command+i. A dialog 
window will open and there you have several tabs.  Usually the first on the 
left is details tab.  Listen for voiceover to say selected and then you will 
know which of the tabs is active.  Then move to the right where you will 
encounter scroll area. You need to interact with it with vo+shfit+down arrow.  
In the scroll area you can edit info.  You need to stop interacting with the 
scroll area with vo+shift+up arrow so that you can go left and choose another 
tab like options.  'And again you will need to find the scroll area to interact 
with it and make your changes.  Explore all the tabs so that you become more 
familiar with the changes available.  Once you have finished, you need to find 
ok button so that your changes take effect.  I know it's a lot of learning but 
it will be worth it.

One word about selecting tracks in your music table.  If you for instance want 
to change a tag for all songs in an album, select this album in your music 
browser first.  then interact with the table of songs, highlight them all with 
command+a and call up "get info' contextual menu item.  You can make your 
changes for all the tracks simultaneously.

It's more troublesome to change tags for a few traks in a longer list of items. 
 The way I do this is to interact with the table of songs first, and then use 
the command vo+command+enter key to select items I want.  Use vo+down arrow to 
move down or up the list and when you've found the item you wish to add to the 
list of highlighted tracks, press vo+command+enter key to add it to selection. 
Voiceover will say so.  Then when you've completed your selection, you can 
double check with key combination vo+f6 to hear all the items that are 
currently selected.  Then you can call up your contextual menu to make changes.

Hope this will help somewhat.

Andrew
> On 13 Dec 2015, at 21:36, Arianna Sepulveda  wrote:
> 
> Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
> kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
> settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
> you go! Thanks a heap!
> 
> If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
> grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
> has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
> read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
> Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
> iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> Hi Arianna,
>> 
>> First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check box
>> for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.  I
>> assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don't need this
>> option to be checked.
>> 
>> I too have the button you are talking about set to songs and my music
>> appears in a table.  This button is still there to the left of the grid but
>> it is probably set to "album" or something similar and that's why your music
>> appears in the grid.  If you try and press on whatever button appears to the
>> left of your grid, you will hear a familiar sound for a popup window.  There
>> you will have various options including "songs" and some other options too
>> which I don't quite understand yet.
>> 
>> Once you've got your table of music, you can then go to itunes menu with
>> vo+m and arrow to the right to the view menu and arrow down to "column
>> browser" submenu which you need to expand with right arrow and there you
>> will find "show column browser" item on which you press enter.  You can
>> customise what categories will appear in your music browser by going back to
>> the same menu item under view menu and checking the categories you want to
>> have appear.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 03:51, Arianna Sepulveda 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know where it went, but a few versions ago, there was a button
>>> that you pressed to change what you were looking at in iTunes, i.e.
>>> songs, albums, etc. If you wanted the most accessible way of viewing
>>> things, you pressed that button until it said songs, then left it
>>> alone. How do I get my nice lists back, where changing something in
>>> one list changed what the other lists showed you? Basically, the
>>> column browser? I have lists now, but they're grids. And there's this
>>> weird love/like stuff in the window--I think it's Apple Music-related.
>>> I need to be able to tell iTunes what kinds of media certain files
>>> are. I can't find anything, and I'm going 

Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Arianna Sepulveda]

Andrew, thank you so much for your reply! You helped me out a lot! I
kept pressing escape out of that popup, unfortunately, which meant the
settings weren't sticking. I finally pressed enter on songs, and there
you go! Thanks a heap!

If you know how I can edit ID3 tag info in iTunes, I would be most
grateful if you could tell me how you do that. The Get Info dialogue
has changed Significantly since the last time I used it. Everything's
read-only now, and I can't figure out how to make the fields editable.
Normally I just use Mp3 Tag to edit tag info, but I've found that
iTunes doesn't always notice the changes I've made.


Thanks,
Ari

On 12/13/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Arianna,
>
> First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check box
> for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.  I
> assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don't need this
> option to be checked.
>
> I too have the button you are talking about set to songs and my music
> appears in a table.  This button is still there to the left of the grid but
> it is probably set to "album" or something similar and that's why your music
> appears in the grid.  If you try and press on whatever button appears to the
> left of your grid, you will hear a familiar sound for a popup window.  There
> you will have various options including "songs" and some other options too
> which I don't quite understand yet.
>
> Once you've got your table of music, you can then go to itunes menu with
> vo+m and arrow to the right to the view menu and arrow down to "column
> browser" submenu which you need to expand with right arrow and there you
> will find "show column browser" item on which you press enter.  You can
> customise what categories will appear in your music browser by going back to
> the same menu item under view menu and checking the categories you want to
> have appear.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Andrew
>> On 13 Dec 2015, at 03:51, Arianna Sepulveda 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't know where it went, but a few versions ago, there was a button
>> that you pressed to change what you were looking at in iTunes, i.e.
>> songs, albums, etc. If you wanted the most accessible way of viewing
>> things, you pressed that button until it said songs, then left it
>> alone. How do I get my nice lists back, where changing something in
>> one list changed what the other lists showed you? Basically, the
>> column browser? I have lists now, but they're grids. And there's this
>> weird love/like stuff in the window--I think it's Apple Music-related.
>> I need to be able to tell iTunes what kinds of media certain files
>> are. I can't find anything, and I'm going nuts!
>>
>>
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Re: The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Arianna,

First, go to itunes preferences with command+comma and uncheck the check box 
for Apple Music.  You might find it helpful in the main itunes widnow.  I 
assume that you do not have Apple Music subscription so you don't need this 
option to be checked.

I too have the button you are talking about set to songs and my music appears 
in a table.  This button is still there to the left of the grid but it is 
probably set to "album" or something similar and that's why your music appears 
in the grid.  If you try and press on whatever button appears to the left of 
your grid, you will hear a familiar sound for a popup window.  There you will 
have various options including "songs" and some other options too which I don't 
quite understand yet.

Once you've got your table of music, you can then go to itunes menu with vo+m 
and arrow to the right to the view menu and arrow down to "column browser" 
submenu which you need to expand with right arrow and there you will find "show 
column browser" item on which you press enter.  You can customise what 
categories will appear in your music browser by going back to the same menu 
item under view menu and checking the categories you want to have appear.

Hope this helps.

Andrew
> On 13 Dec 2015, at 03:51, Arianna Sepulveda  wrote:
> 
> I don't know where it went, but a few versions ago, there was a button
> that you pressed to change what you were looking at in iTunes, i.e.
> songs, albums, etc. If you wanted the most accessible way of viewing
> things, you pressed that button until it said songs, then left it
> alone. How do I get my nice lists back, where changing something in
> one list changed what the other lists showed you? Basically, the
> column browser? I have lists now, but they're grids. And there's this
> weird love/like stuff in the window--I think it's Apple Music-related.
> I need to be able to tell iTunes what kinds of media certain files
> are. I can't find anything, and I'm going nuts!
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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The latest iTunes is seriously confusing me!

[Arianna Sepulveda]

I don't know where it went, but a few versions ago, there was a button
that you pressed to change what you were looking at in iTunes, i.e.
songs, albums, etc. If you wanted the most accessible way of viewing
things, you pressed that button until it said songs, then left it
alone. How do I get my nice lists back, where changing something in
one list changed what the other lists showed you? Basically, the
column browser? I have lists now, but they're grids. And there's this
weird love/like stuff in the window--I think it's Apple Music-related.
I need to be able to tell iTunes what kinds of media certain files
are. I can't find anything, and I'm going nuts!


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

[Shai]

Hi,
Another item you might try is to have your iPhone screen unlocked if
you have a passcode. In my experience, I found that iTunes would not
sync despite the fact that it was set to trust my computer and Windows
made the sound that my phone was recognized.
I had this issue before on the 5s and since then keep my 6s this way
and notice that all is fine when I go to sync.

On 10/30/15, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:
> Wondered if anyone has any problems or issues syncing their IPhone 6 etc.
> with the latest ITunes as can't figure out why am not able to do so using
> the proper usb cable like have done in the past as ITunes doesn't even
> recognize my phone when connected via usb and the usb ports work just fine
> as am able to know it's connected by the windows 10 sound that alert me and
> can print from the usb ports too.  So can't figure out what's causing this.
> So unless someone has an answer might uninstall and reinstall ITunes over
> the weekend to see if fixes the problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

[M. Taylor]

Hello Don,

Did you just install Windows 10?  If so, you may have to have your iPhone Trust 
the computer, again.  

There are several things that may not be working correctly depending upon how 
you upgraded to Windows 10.  

The first thing I recommend, however, is to try to connect using a different 
USB cable.  I know it sounds far-fetched, but give it a try, before you 
reinstall iTunes.  Also, should you decide to reinstall iTunes, as Apple 
recommends, be certain to remove all of the Apple components from your PC, 
first. While this is not absolutely necessary, I have found it yields the best 
results.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:23 AM
To: 'VIPhone'
Subject: Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

Wondered if anyone has any problems or issues syncing their IPhone 6 etc. with 
the latest ITunes as can’t figure out why am not able to do so using the proper 
usb cable like have done in the past as ITunes doesn’t even recognize my phone 
when connected via usb and the usb ports work just fine as am able to know it’s 
connected by the windows 10 sound that alert me and can print from the usb 
ports too.  So can’t figure out what’s causing this.  So unless someone has an 
answer might uninstall and reinstall ITunes over the weekend to see if fixes 
the problem.
Thanks.



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Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Wondered if anyone has any problems or issues syncing their IPhone 6 etc.
with the latest ITunes as can't figure out why am not able to do so using
the proper usb cable like have done in the past as ITunes doesn't even
recognize my phone when connected via usb and the usb ports work just fine
as am able to know it's connected by the windows 10 sound that alert me and
can print from the usb ports too.  So can't figure out what's causing this.
So unless someone has an answer might uninstall and reinstall ITunes over
the weekend to see if fixes the problem.

Thanks.

 

 

 

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Re: Confused about how apps are stored and updated in the latest iTunes for Windows.

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Kevin,

Try right-clicking one of the apps in your iTunes library, and choose Show in 
Finder, or the equivalent command if you use Windows. That should tell you 
where they are. I can't help with the rest of your questions, unfortunately.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:05 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
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> Hi.
>  
> Due to a hard drive failure, I had to restore everything.  Thankfully I had 
> everything backed up, so it wasn’t an issue.  This did mean, however, that I 
> had to restore my iTunes files.  I have them in a folder that’s different 
> from the default iTunes folder where items are stored, so I let iTunes know 
> where this was, and it indicated that it loaded my content.  Now comes the 
> fun.  I went to the apps setting to see if I had any apps that had updates.  
> At first iTunes displayed information about what the apps feature was for, 
> but my apps weren’t there.  I noticed there were two folders, an apps folder, 
> and a mobile apps folder.  Thinking that iTunes didn’t have the apps in the 
> right place, I moved all the apps in the mobile apps folder into the 
> automaticly add to the iTunes library.  iTunes indicated that the apps 
> already existed, and did I want them replaced?  I told it to do so, and now 
> iTunes reports all my apps are up to date.  Now comes the interesting part.  
> When I look at the apps in my mobile applications folder, they’re not the 
> latest and greatest.  I looked in the location where iTunes would, by 
> default, store the apps, and nothing’s there, not even the folder.  I have 
> two questions.  Do I have the latest apps?  If I do, where are they on the 
> PC?  I double checked to see where the iTunes folder was in preferences, and 
> it’s indicating where I have my library.
>  
> Any ideas?
>  
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Confused about how apps are stored and updated in the latest iTunes for Windows.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

 

Due to a hard drive failure, I had to restore everything.  Thankfully I had
everything backed up, so it wasn't an issue.  This did mean, however, that I
had to restore my iTunes files.  I have them in a folder that's different
from the default iTunes folder where items are stored, so I let iTunes know
where this was, and it indicated that it loaded my content.  Now comes the
fun.  I went to the apps setting to see if I had any apps that had updates.
At first iTunes displayed information about what the apps feature was for,
but my apps weren't there.  I noticed there were two folders, an apps
folder, and a mobile apps folder.  Thinking that iTunes didn't have the apps
in the right place, I moved all the apps in the mobile apps folder into the
automaticly add to the iTunes library.  iTunes indicated that the apps
already existed, and did I want them replaced?  I told it to do so, and now
iTunes reports all my apps are up to date.  Now comes the interesting part.
When I look at the apps in my mobile applications folder, they're not the
latest and greatest.  I looked in the location where iTunes would, by
default, store the apps, and nothing's there, not even the folder.  I have
two questions.  Do I have the latest apps?  If I do, where are they on the
PC?  I double checked to see where the iTunes folder was in preferences, and
it's indicating where I have my library.

 

Any ideas?

 

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1 (was New playlists a nightmare with latest iTunes)

[Don & Cher]

Since I received no response from any list members to my query about broken
playlists in the newest iTunes, I phoned Apple Accessibility this afternoon
to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He verified that with the
latest iTunes, you cannot select, copy or cut songs in new playlists with
the keyboard (using a PC). He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did
not have JAWS installed, and could not perform these functions either. I can
still use all these keyboard commands within playlists created prior to
installing the new iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and
rename it (so I can have a editable playlist) the newly duplicated playlist
is non-editable- apparently because it was duplicated under the new iTunes.
The only way I can add songs to one of these new playlists is by using 'add
to playlist' on the context menu- and the order of songs is unchangeable by
this method- I.E. the order you add the songs is unchangeable after the
fact. If you use playlists, I hope you will contact Apple Accessibility re
this. 

 

Cher

 

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New playlists a nightmare with latest iTunes using latest JFW16

[Don & Cher]

In iTunes on the PC, attempting to create a new playlist in latest iTunes: 

.shows previously hidden artwork

.I cannot select songs- so cannot copy, or rearrange order- so must add
songs in the exact order desired

.the 'edit playlist' buttons deselect the playlist and reverts to entire
music library (you are instructed to use this button to add songs to a
playlist)

 

My old playlists are unaffected- I can select, copy, delete and rearrange as
before. Anyone else seeing this?

 

Cher

 

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Solved- RE: Getting Rid of Application Menu in Latest iTunes

[Don & Cher]

Problem solved- Installing the latest iTunes had turned on menus in the View 
menu for some reason- causing them to appear in the tab order of the F6 key. 
This has never happened before, so did not think to check for that.

Cher

 

 

 

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Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting Rid of Application Menu in Latest iTunes

 

Not happy with the application menu (file, edit, view, controls, etc.) 
appearing in the tab order of the new iTunes. After Control-F to go to the 
search box, these menus jump in before the series of radio buttons. Anyone 
figured out a way to make them go bye-bye?

 

Cher

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Side Bar in latest iTunes

[Don & Cher]

Isn't the keystroke to show/hide the side bar control-shift-S? If it does
anything in the latest iTunes, I can't tell the difference. Can anyone
figure it out?

 

Cher

 

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Re: Side Bar in latest iTunes

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. The sidebar has been gone since iTunes 12.0. I would assume you're talking 
about windows? If so, yes. The sidebar has been gone since 12. This also 
applies to the sources list table for OS X.

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> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Don & Cher  wrote:
> 
> Isn't the keystroke to show/hide the side bar control-shift-S? If it does 
> anything in the latest iTunes, I can't tell the difference. Can anyone figure 
> it out?
>  
> Cher
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Getting Rid of Application Menu in Latest iTunes

[Don & Cher]

Not happy with the application menu (file, edit, view, controls, etc.)
appearing in the tab order of the new iTunes. After Control-F to go to the
search box, these menus jump in before the series of radio buttons. Anyone
figured out a way to make them go bye-bye?

 

Cher

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RE: latest iTunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When you are on the button that says "Album", activate it by pressing the 
spacebar, then tab into the listview of available options, arrow to "Song" and 
press enter.


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I am running windows 7 home premium and jaws 16

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It would help knowing what operating system and screen reader you're using.

Using NVDA on my Windows 7 system, I tap the space bar on the albums
button. In the dialog that pops up, I can tab over to a list and then I
can arrow up and down to select songs, albums, artists and so on. Once
an option is selected you can continue tabbing to set the sort options.
Just back tab to the list and hit enter on the view you want to close
the dialog and bring up the desired view.

On 04/13/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Doc wright wrote:
> I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the
> catagory from album to song, help!!!
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Re: latest iTunes

[Robert Doc wright]

I am running windows 7 home premium and jaws 16

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From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: latest iTunes


It would help knowing what operating system and screen reader you're using.

Using NVDA on my Windows 7 system, I tap the space bar on the albums
button. In the dialog that pops up, I can tab over to a list and then I
can arrow up and down to select songs, albums, artists and so on. Once
an option is selected you can continue tabbing to set the sort options.
Just back tab to the list and hit enter on the view you want to close
the dialog and bring up the desired view.

On 04/13/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Doc wright wrote:

I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the
catagory from album to song, help!!!

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Re: latest iTunes

[Christopher Chaltain]

It would help knowing what operating system and screen reader you're using.

Using NVDA on my Windows 7 system, I tap the space bar on the albums 
button. In the dialog that pops up, I can tab over to a list and then I 
can arrow up and down to select songs, albums, artists and so on. Once 
an option is selected you can continue tabbing to set the sort options. 
Just back tab to the list and hit enter on the view you want to close 
the dialog and bring up the desired view.


On 04/13/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Doc wright wrote:

I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the
catagory from album to song, help!!!

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latest iTunes

[Robert Doc wright]

I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the catagory from 
album to song, help!!!

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How do I see all the apps on my devices in latest itunes using windows?

[Jen Colley]

Hi,  
I forget where you go to see all your apps in itunes and then when you plug in 
a device I can’t remember what you do to be able to see all the apps on that 
device and change thange them.  
Jen  

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RE: Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS

[Larry Lumpkin]

12.1.1


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Bryan Schulz
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hi,

so is that v12.3?
Bryan Schulz


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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:43 PM
Subject: Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS


Hello, everyone. Last night I installed the latest version of iTunes, and it
seems to work much better with JAWS. I have the latest version of JAWS on a
Windows 7 computer. I don't know if all of iTunes' features work, but the
radio tuner now works flawlessly, as it did before. I hope this is helpful
to some.



Thanks.



Judy





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Re: Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS

[Bryan Schulz]

hi,

so is that v12.3?
Bryan Schulz


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From: "Judy Holloway" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 1:43 PM
Subject: Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS


Hello, everyone. Last night I installed the latest version of iTunes, and it
seems to work much better with JAWS. I have the latest version of JAWS on a
Windows 7 computer. I don't know if all of iTunes' features work, but the
radio tuner now works flawlessly, as it did before. I hope this is helpful
to some.



Thanks.



Judy





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Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS

[Judy Holloway]

Hello, everyone. Last night I installed the latest version of iTunes, and it
seems to work much better with JAWS. I have the latest version of JAWS on a
Windows 7 computer. I don't know if all of iTunes' features work, but the
radio tuner now works flawlessly, as it did before. I hope this is helpful
to some.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 



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RE: The Latest iTunes 12

[Ron Pelletier]

Richard,

 

According to Apple, you will have to deal with that yourself until your
screen reader updates their software.  They made it very clear to me that
its not their problem.

 

Ron & Danvers

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Re: The Latest iTunes 12

[Wayne Merritt]

I am able to switch to my music and search for a song that I want to
delete from my main playlist, but 12.1 is definitely several steps
backward as far as accessible and usable go. I have even tried hitting
F6 to switch between parts of the window but get little if any
feedback when trying to move between those parts. Also, I tried to
activate the show menus button thinking the menu bar would then
appear, but nothing seems to have happened.

Wayne

On 2/4/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> What were the error messages?
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> you! really! are! finished!
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> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 7:14 AM
> Subject: Re: The Latest iTunes 12
>
>
> I haven't updated to the new version yet. However, a day or so after
> it came out, I started receiving error messages when attempting to
> update apps. Any ideas?
>
> On 2/4/15, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
>> My song list shows as buttons
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:41 PM
>> Subject: The Latest iTunes 12
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I too am having a terrible time with this latest release.  Not only is
>> the
>> song list failing to appear or at least be read, it always wants to check
>> on
>> my Airplay devices and won't work if said device is not turned on.  It
>> asks
>> me to choose in the airplay menu for the preferred device.  I can't find
>> an
>> airplay menu.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard
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Re: The Latest iTunes 12

[Charles Rivard]

What were the error messages?

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Subject: Re: The Latest iTunes 12


I haven't updated to the new version yet. However, a day or so after
it came out, I started receiving error messages when attempting to
update apps. Any ideas?

On 2/4/15, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

My song list shows as buttons

- Original Message -
From: "Richard" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:41 PM
Subject: The Latest iTunes 12


Hi,

I too am having a terrible time with this latest release.  Not only is the
song list failing to appear or at least be read, it always wants to check
on
my Airplay devices and won't work if said device is not turned on.  It 
asks
me to choose in the airplay menu for the preferred device.  I can't find 
an

airplay menu.

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: The Latest iTunes 12

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I haven't updated to the new version yet. However, a day or so after
it came out, I started receiving error messages when attempting to
update apps. Any ideas?

On 2/4/15, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> My song list shows as buttons
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:41 PM
> Subject: The Latest iTunes 12
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I too am having a terrible time with this latest release.  Not only is the
> song list failing to appear or at least be read, it always wants to check
> on
> my Airplay devices and won't work if said device is not turned on.  It asks
> me to choose in the airplay menu for the preferred device.  I can't find an
> airplay menu.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
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Re: The Latest iTunes 12

[Robert Doc Wright]

My song list shows as buttons

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:41 PM
Subject: The Latest iTunes 12


Hi,

I too am having a terrible time with this latest release.  Not only is the
song list failing to appear or at least be read, it always wants to check on
my Airplay devices and won't work if said device is not turned on.  It asks
me to choose in the airplay menu for the preferred device.  I can't find an
airplay menu.

Thanks,

Richard

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The Latest iTunes 12

[Richard]

Hi,

I too am having a terrible time with this latest release.  Not only is the
song list failing to appear or at least be read, it always wants to check on
my Airplay devices and won't work if said device is not turned on.  It asks
me to choose in the airplay menu for the preferred device.  I can't find an
airplay menu.

Thanks,

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Re: latest itunes and playlist sync problem

[Russ Kiehne]

Here’s what I do.

after cconnecting the ipod touch and before arrowing down to devices I do the 
following:
in the file menu, arrow down to library and press enter.
In the library menu arrow down to import playlist and press enter.
Now you get the option to browse to the playlist you want to import.
Select the playlist you want to import and press enter.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: latest itunes and playlist sync problem

Hello list
How does one sync playlist with the latest itunes? In the past I created the 
playlist on the pc, connected my ipod, downarrow to devices and then tab and 
select music and then I tabbed to "selected playlists" and checked that and on 
the list of playlists I checked what to download to my ipod and then tabbed to 
apply and enter. Now when I select music and tab I just get the capacity of the 
ipod, info about the music and free space but nothing about the list of 
playlists. Has something changed in the latest itunes?
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latest itunes and playlist sync problem

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Hello list
How does one sync playlist with the latest itunes? In the past I created the 
playlist on the pc, connected my ipod, downarrow to devices and then tab and 
select music and then I tabbed to "selected playlists" and checked that and on 
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apply and enter. Now when I select music and tab I just get the capacity of the 
ipod, info about the music and free space but nothing about the list of 
playlists. Has something changed in the latest itunes?
Regards
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RE: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC

[Don and Cher Bosch]

I probably spent over an hour with multiple tries on IE10. I'm still using
latest JAWS14 however- but even looking with the JAWS cursor the necessary
buttons and text were simply not visible. With FF everything was there and
so simple.
Cher


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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC

I tried several times in IE and only once got the error message that my
browser was not compatible. As I mentioned I am using IE 10 with Jaws 15.
Firefox worked the first time. I tried updating within ITunes and by using
the Apple update utility but they both said that ITunes was up to date which
of course it wasn't.

On 9/19/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
> Well, I'm glad it finally worked out for you, but this was not my 
> experience
>
> at all with Jaws 14 and Internet Explorer 10 on Windows7. Just 
> conveying this so that others don't believe iTunes cannot be downloaded
with Jaws.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
>
> Joseph and All- As John mentioned earlier, the download is no problem 
> in Firefox. With IE10 and latest JAWS, several parts of the iTunes 
> download page were inaccessible- crucial buttons and text were simply 
> invisible to JAWS. Thanks John for suggesting Firefox- the difference was
unbelievable!
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
> Hi,
>
> An an effort to also help others, I composed a new message with new 
> subject line. This info should help you and others download the newest 
> version of iTunes. Please look for that message.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
>
> That's the page I'm on. I've pressed the download link and routed JAWS 
> to PC and clicked on everything that said download JIC the download 
> was not showing up as a link. I selected my location and went through 
> the whole thing again. Then I hit all the terms of service links to 
> see if there was a checkbox there. The terms said you had to click 
> 'agree' but JAWS saw there was nowhere on that screen to check a box, 
> click a link, or press an agree button. I've certainly downloaded it 
> before, but this is a new Win7 computer.
> Cher
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
> Here is the Windows download link for iTunes 11.1:
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:37 PM
> Subject: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
>
> I'm on the page titled 'Apple iTunes- Download iTunes Now' and can't 
> get beyond it. The download links show up as visited, but nothing ever 
> changes on the page. I'm using IE10 with JAWS. Very frustrated- please 
> advise :)
>
> Cher
>
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Re: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I tried several times in IE and only once got the error message that
my browser was not compatible. As I mentioned I am using IE 10 with
Jaws 15. Firefox worked the first time. I tried updating within ITunes
and by using the
Apple update utility but they both said that ITunes was up to date
which of course it wasn't.

On 9/19/13, Joseph FreeTech  wrote:
> Well, I'm glad it finally worked out for you, but this was not my experience
>
> at all with Jaws 14 and Internet Explorer 10 on Windows7. Just conveying
> this so that others don't believe iTunes cannot be downloaded with Jaws.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
>
> Joseph and All- As John mentioned earlier, the download is no problem in
> Firefox. With IE10 and latest JAWS, several parts of the iTunes download
> page were inaccessible- crucial buttons and text were simply invisible to
> JAWS. Thanks John for suggesting Firefox- the difference was unbelievable!
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
> Hi,
>
> An an effort to also help others, I composed a new message with new subject
> line. This info should help you and others download the newest version of
> iTunes. Please look for that message.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
>
> That's the page I'm on. I've pressed the download link and routed JAWS to
> PC
> and clicked on everything that said download JIC the download was not
> showing up as a link. I selected my location and went through the whole
> thing again. Then I hit all the terms of service links to see if there was
> a
> checkbox there. The terms said you had to click 'agree' but JAWS saw there
> was nowhere on that screen to check a box, click a link, or press an agree
> button. I've certainly downloaded it before, but this is a new Win7
> computer.
> Cher
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
> Here is the Windows download link for iTunes 11.1:
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don and Cher Bosch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:37 PM
> Subject: Can't get latest iTunes download started on PC
>
>
> I'm on the page titled 'Apple iTunes- Download iTunes Now' and can't get
> beyond it. The download links show up as visited, but nothing ever changes
> on the page. I'm using IE10 with JAWS. Very frustrated- please advise :)
>
> Cher
>
>
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