Re: [Vo]:Casimir cavity boilers

[Horace Heffner]

On Aug 2, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Jones Beene wrote:


Horace,

This is very provocative. Perhaps a simple static (pressure  
differential)

experiment could be 'telling' without going all the way to dynamic
circuit... IOW is "flow through" really necessary, given that Raney  
nickel
could provide the necessary cavities, in a static colloid, so that  
normal

convection would suffice?



I actually gave this some thought, though as applied to gas mode,  
before coming up with the boiling of atoms or molecules that have no  
possibility of hydrogen, ionic, or covalent bonding, i.e. for which a  
large portion of their bonding energy is the Casimir force.  My  
initial vision was gas molecules at the low end of the Boltzmann tail  
coming together, gaining thermal energy from the attraction (this is  
classical Puthoff etc., and evokes the long standing riddle of how to  
separate the attracted entities) and then quickly flowing through a  
Casimir cavity to break the Casimir bond so that recycling could  
occur. I saw the process as occurring very fast, as via a flow  
through a series Casimir thin passageway baffles, or even through a  
device as envisioned for extracting momentum from the Casimir force  
described here, and diagrammed in Fig. 1 here:


http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ZPE-CasimirThrust.pdf

This might work in a "flow-by" basis using Raney nickel, carbon  
nanotubes, grooved metal surfaces, or any number of catalysts  
contained in a series of baffle like filters though which the  
candidate gas might flow.


Part of the problem with this concept was obtaining a fast recycling  
rate, providing adequate time for the condensation, and yet avoiding  
complete condensation. It still may be gas mode is the way to go, but  
it looks too complex to check out economically.


It finally dawned on me - why not just let things condense.  You  
still get to extract the energy when you let it condense.  The  
Casimir force for these molecules *is* the force that primarily  
causes the condensation.  The enthalpy of vaporization then provides  
an upper bound on the energy to be derived from each cycle, and a  
convenient means to compute feasibility.  In this context then the  
Casimir energy is essentially obtained by reducing the boiling  
point.  And there you have it: a "Casimir Boiler" concept for solving  
the old riddle of how to get the Casimir bound entities apart.






Another option that comes to mind is that the boiling point at ~170  
F is
only a few degree from that of ethanol. Some kind of fugacity  
experiment is
possible, but I haven't got a handle on it yet. The vapor pressure  
could be

amplified by a mix of the two.



Ethanol, or any hydrogen containing compound must be kept isolated  
from a Casimir device of this kind. Obtaining self operation depends  
heavily on the proportion of energy of the bond that comes from the  
Casimir force (or van der Waals force if you prefer.)  selection of  
the best candidate for practical application depends heavily on  
this.  I don't discount candidates like CF4, NF3, or UF6 for actual  
practical devices. I merely identified CCl4 as a possible practical  
chemical for inexpensive checking of principle.
It is entirely possible that a machine operating within a cryrogenic  
envelope can be developed to produce electrical energy using these  
principles.


It could be that, via heat exchanger, boiling a chemical with a  
boiling point near that of the gas chosen for its Casimir properties  
would be of great use.  A boiling cycle may extract energy much more  
efficiently than using a Sterling engine, especially under very  
controlled circumstances, like use in a power plant.





 wish Sparber could participate, as this is the kind of thing  
Fred really
enjoyed. He would be sure to bring up his patent for keeping a cow  
trough

ice-free.


Yes indeed!




BTW - if your concept worked, and a Casimir cavity boiler could  
produce a
usable Carnot spread between a hot and cold side of a constantly  
vaporizing
liquid, near its boiling point; even if the differential was small,  
then an
implementation might be a modified Stirling. It might require using  
very

large pistons or drumhead resonator - to squeeze much power out. The
efficiency would be very low but who cares? if the energy is free  
and the
thing can be constructed of cheap structural materials like  
polyethylene and

fiberglass?



Yes, if the primary output is heat then a Sterling concept of some  
kind might come into play.  I imagine a thermodynamicist would have a  
field day with all this!  It's likely practical implementation would  
happen in an exotic cryogenic environment.





Anyway, let me say up front, having worked with carbon  
tetrachloride in the
past in the plastics industry (no 'Graduate' jokes please) that it  
is nasty

stuff, made more problematic by what some consider to be a pleasant
ether-like aroma. It is a solvent for many plastics and can serves  
as a

RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

[Mark Iverson]

I see more and more instances of when some research is finding things that 
don't quite agree with
'theory' or 'whats expected', and it always involves some kind of experiment 
where a physical
parameter is way beyond what science has explored.  I distinctly remember a 
quote from one scientist
that went something like this..."The physical, or electrical, or magnetic 
properties of a nearly
pure substance are, in many instances, quite different from that of the almost 
pure element."  With
nanotech, i.e., extremely small dimensions, we are seeing many kinds of unusual 
phenomena...
graphene, a one atom thick sheet of carbon, has very unusual properties, and 
just might end up
replacing the 'silicon' industry.  Whenever I see an article that involves 
experiments with extreme
conditions I try to save a copy... got a pile of articles!
 
I think material science will be to this century what the transistor was to 
last century. 

-Mark

  _  

From: Frank Roarty [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:18 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Thomas Prevenslik; 'Jan Naudts'; bourgo...@edgecombe.edu; Garret Moddel; 
Knibbe, Peter W
Subject: RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law



Yes,

It is actually one of the paths that led me into adopting 
Naudts' relativistic
solution in that everyone was assuming the hydrogen orbital must be getting 
smaller because the only
other variable in the energy equation was Planck's constant - or not so 
constant from a relativistic
perspective :_)

It is the opposite side of the same coin - I call it Lorentz contraction but 
you can also say
Plank's constant gets smaller as the ratio of small to large  vacuum flux 

Increases- I would even propose that it becomes much larger as the ratio goes 
in the opposite
direction approaching C or an event horizon.

 

I just converted a power point to html that touches on this
http://www.byzipp.com/energy/excessHeat.htm 

Fran

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

 

It could also be relevant to the thread on Casimir cavities, and the 
possibility of seeing excess
heat from the simply expedient of adding a nano-structured "source" of Casimir 
cavities, such as
Raney Nickel, to an appropriate medium.

 

Arata Zhang on a budget, so to speak.

 

 

 

From: Chris Zell 

 


Thank you for posting this.  While it deals with the micro level of reality, it 
still illustrates
the problem with reductionism and saying that something is impossible because 
it violates a physical
"law".

 

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Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

[Horace Heffner]

On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:




- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner 
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems



On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:


Great!

now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than
you put in to make the motor spin.

harry


Actually, that sounds like a better project for you! 8^)


I lack your equipment and practical knowledge.



Based on the results of this experiment there are far better places  
to apply my limited equipment, practical knowledge, money and time.







It can't be even close, as far as mechanical energy.  The input is
almost all going to heat.




Marinov's force derived free energy
should
all show up in the form of torque, i.e. mechanical energy.  I see
no
reason whatsoever to expect excess energy, or even to have to draw
on
Marinov's longitudinal force to explain the operation of the motor.


I am unfamiliar with Marinov's force. Even if magnetic hyestersis  
is the

best explanation for the increased rotation why does the coil heat up?



The nichrome coil is a resistor being fed a large current.  P = i^2 *  
R.  Why does a hot plate heat up?  Why does an iron heat up, a hair  
dryer or an electric space heater?  If you are wondering why the coil  
heated up visibly for the ordinary steel bearings and not the  
stainless bearings, the reason is that with the rotating motor I  
could leave the power on long enough for the coil to heat up.  The  
stainless steel motor shut down rotation very fast so I had to cut  
off the power fast to prevent welding.  Part of the art of doing this  
experiment is keeping the current low enough that the stainless steel  
will not weld.  The stainless steel bearings are very different from  
ordinary bearings.  Stainless notoriously welds very much better,  
because the surface doesn't quickly pacify by oxidation like ordinary  
steel.  The art of this experiment is getting things to run without  
destroying the stainless bearings by welding. This means running at  
the lowest possible current that gets clear results.


One of the best practical things I learned is powdered graphite  
lubricant, which comes in little tubes that look like toothpaste or  
ointment tubes, greatly reduces welding and surface destruction due  
to arcing, while having little effect on the resistance of the  
bearing. It also had a very positive effect on my locks, which were  
long overdue for lubricating, so something practical came of this  
experiment! 8^)






If the system were generating electricity and adding it to the  
supplied

current this would cause the coil to heat up.



The magnetic hysteresis explanation looks far more credible, and
definitely more conventional to me.

I have far better designs to test for non-conservative forces, if I

can ever get around to implementing them.


Harry



Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Gulf Stream energy

[Horace Heffner]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

"The Younger Dryas saw a rapid return to glacial conditions in the  
higher latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere between 12,900–11,500  
years before present (BP)[5] in sharp contrast to the warming of the  
preceding interstadial deglaciation. The transitions each occurred  
over a period of a decade or so.[6] Thermally fractionated nitrogen  
and argon isotope data from Greenland ice core GISP2 indicate that  
the summit of Greenland was ~15°C colder during the Younger Dryas[6]  
than today. In the UK, coleopteran (fossil beetle) evidence suggests  
mean annual temperature dropped to approximately 5°C,[7] and  
periglacial conditions prevailed in lowland areas, while icefields  
and glaciers formed in upland areas.[8] Nothing of the size, extent,  
or rapidity of this period of abrupt climate change has been  
experienced since.[5]"


"There is evidence that a theorized Younger Dryas impact event,  
12,900 years ago in North America could have initiated the Younger  
Dryas cooling and population bottleneck or near extinction of the  
Clovis people.[13]"


The gulf stream carries tropical water right up close to and along  
the US coast, all the way up through the Canadian coastline, and then  
over to Greenland.  If Greenland dropped ~15°C, then the coastal  
areas of the US likely did too.  There were populations of Clovis  
People along the US coast which disappeared.  Some archaeologists  
subscribe to the hypothesis a meteor event caused the Younger Dryas  
extinction event though.  There was a Public Broadcasting System NOVA  
show on this here recently.  The two events could be related. A comet  
impact could have caused fresh water release.  Here is an interesting  
paper, even though it may be amateur:


http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/Clovis_Comet_Crater.pdf



On Aug 3, 2009, at 8:32 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:28:03  
-0800:

Hi,

Horace Heffner wrote:


It may also permanently disappear too fast to avoid the loss of
power by other means.


What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the Gulf Stream
may stop or shift locations?



Yes.  Disruption of the thermohaline circulation may have already
happened somewhat in the past, making for cold weather year round in
the Northern Hemisphere.  Melting of the polar ice could produce a
new (but probably short!) ice age, even though global temperatures
increase.


I remember seeing a show on TV about this a few years back. I seem  
to remember
that they suggested that the European end of the Gulf Stream would  
shift south

to Africa, but I don't think there was much change in the US end.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Gulf Stream energy

[mixent]

In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:28:03 -0800:
Hi,
>> Horace Heffner wrote:
>>
>>> It may also permanently disappear too fast to avoid the loss of  
>>> power by other means.
>>
>> What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the Gulf Stream  
>> may stop or shift locations?
>
>
>Yes.  Disruption of the thermohaline circulation may have already  
>happened somewhat in the past, making for cold weather year round in  
>the Northern Hemisphere.  Melting of the polar ice could produce a  
>new (but probably short!) ice age, even though global temperatures  
>increase.

I remember seeing a show on TV about this a few years back. I seem to remember
that they suggested that the European end of the Gulf Stream would shift south
to Africa, but I don't think there was much change in the US end.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

Re: RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[Harry Veeder]

- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 9:19 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

> From Mr. Blanton:
> 
> > John, [Mack] G-d rest his soul, also believed, much like you,
> > that abductions were not totally physical.  He thought it might
> > be only the spirit that was abducted.
> 
> I experienced a my own personal Mack of the 3rd kind encounter when I
> briefly brushed past the venerable doctor at the 50th Anniversary 
> of the
> Roswell Crash festival held in Roswell, circa 1997. I handed Mack a 
> postcard, a reproduction of one of the first *digital* paintings I 
> ever created:
> "The Seeding". 
> 
> http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/seeding_m.htm

cool painting

Harry

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[Terry Blanton]

Absolutely one of the best descriptions of sudden self-actualization I
have ever read.  I, too, experienced something similar at about 19 yrs
old.

Bravo!

Terry

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:19 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent
Johnson wrote:

> May the following essay, eccentrically written it may be, prove to be
> informative to some:

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Divinity Paradigm, was the Abduction Paradigm

[OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Mr. Beene

...
 
> IOW there is a basic commonality with the alien abduction phenomena and
> religion that is almost always swept under the rug of mass hysteria, by
> the chief poobahs of religious doctrine, who do not wish to be associated
> with the taint of heathen mentality (nor to jeopardize the collection
> plate).
> 
>  bah ... shame on me ... or is that "fool me once, shame on you,
> fool me twice, shame on me" ?
> 
> Signed,
> 
> Pastor Rod Flash  - PhD ThD LsD   Powerhouse Church of the Presumptious
> Assumption of the Blinding Light.

Can I play too? What do you charge for membership?

Regards,
Steven Vincnet Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Terry:

> Scenario 3 was put forth by one of the remote viewers of fame, the
> name of exactly which one escapes me.  He purports that the aliens are
> actually time travelers from our future.  The human race altered their
> DNA intentionally to try to eliminate all those "nasty" human
> characteristics.
> 
> Unfortunately, they found that they went too far and have returned in
> order to collect samples to restore those lost humane traits.

Years ago I remember reading a SF novel based on a premise very similar to
what you have outlined. The author was obviously well-versed in UFO
abduction lore. He did a pretty decent job of coming up with a plausible
story line. 

Yet another scenario to add to the ever growing list of possibilities.

> Me, I think it's all something like Terrance McKenna said:
> 
> "We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which
> disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm
> us."

Yes, walk quietly. Do not disturb the indigenous life forms. 

And, oh by the way, do not leave any refuse. New fines are in place. ;-)

--
Regards,
Steven Vincnet Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Terry sez:

> (So, Steven, considering your glint of denial, could you be an
> experiencer?  Ever had an event of missing time?  ;-)

Me??? In denial??? I am not Take that back! :-)

Alas, I'm afraid I must disappoint the few (VERY few, I'm sure) who might
have wondered if I'm a closet abductee.

However...

May the following essay, eccentrically written it may be, prove to be
informative to some:

* * * * *

AT THE STOP LIGHT OF MY LIFE


PART 1: DEATH

Back in the 1970s there was period in my mid twenties when enjoying the
simple pleasures of life seemed to be an unattainable dream. Like many young
adults I was going through my own personally crafted identity crisis, one
brought on by a perceived and profound sense of existential isolation
exacerbated by relentless angst typical for that age group. I felt flawed
and separated from myself and from others.

I had come to the foreboding conclusion that every action that I had tried
in the past year in an attempt to extract myself out of my chronic rut of
negativism had not succeeded. I didn't know what else to try. I feared my
fate was spiraling into oblivion, the result of no longer caring that I
didn't care. Considering how apathetic I actually felt at the time I had
probably already obtained that goal.

It was classic depression. From my point of view, life had failed me, or
perhaps I had failed life.

One day, in the midst of this personal fugue-like state I was driving my
silver gray Honda Civic northbound on Midvale Boulevard towards the cross
section of University Avenue. It was a mundane driving action I had
performed countless times in the past. This time however, as I rolled my car
to a stop, mindlessly obeying the red light, something unexpected happened.

Without a struggle and with no forethought, I surrendered. I slipped into
darkness and ceased to exist.

I died.

Then, as if jolted back to life by a cosmic deliberator I was slammed back
into the driver's seat. Disoriented, I looked around. I quickly scanned the
interior of my car. I looked out all the windows and listened to the sounds
of bustling traffic. It was daylight... the intense daylight! It was as if
someone had within a nanosecond spun the volume and lighting controls up to
maximum - up to eleven! I realized that over the past year I must have been
gradually turning the controls down millimeter by millimeter, week after
week, month after month. I must have reduced my external senses to a point
where my surroundings felt no more tangible than a muffled gray whisper.

I felt bewildered but also excited. What had just happened to me! All I knew
was that someone, some distant stranger that had been inhabiting this body
had just died. But here "I" was, back in the driver's seat, with full
possession of the prior dead person's memories. "I" still seemed to be
intact.

I confronted an unexpected revelation. It no longer mattered what prior
tribulations this prior individual who had inhabited my body must have
endured. What mattered was that a new "me" had just been reborn out of the
ashes of a prior discarded life.

I noticed the traffic light had turned green. What do I do next? I hadn't a
clue. I put my car in gear. I stepped on the accelerator and drove through
the crossroad.


PART 2: AFTER DEATH


It would be tempting to conclude the telling of my transformation at this
juncture. However, to do so would have been a misleading account of what
happened next.

What happened shortly afterward contradicted my profoundly felt
transformation. While I knew I had been reborn in every literal sense of the
experience, I had also been brought back with all the memories and feelings
of my prior past-life self fully intact. I did not fully comprehend the
ramifications of being in full possession of all those "past-life" memories
previously assigned to a no longer living stranger. As time marched on, and
much to my dismay, I realized that I seemed to be once again reassembling
all my prior faults and foibles. I was becoming moody, apathetic, even
suicidal. The reborn "me" was slowly devolving back to my discarded
past-life.

In hindsight I did not realize it at the time, an awareness which has taken
decades to slowly unravel, that my memories, attitudes, beliefs, and
feelings were nothing more than just that: my memories, attitudes, beliefs,
and feelings. When I had been "reborn" I did not fully comprehend the
profound ramifications, the gift of having just experienced the "death" of
my entire accumulated perceived sense of "self". I had not adequately
prepared myself to consider what I might want to do with all of my past and
future expectations essentially assigned to a discarded stranger, but then
who is.

How could I inculcate this precious gift of death and resurrection. What new
opportunities awaited me? Time marched on. Decades later I have come to
realize that I have lived through additional passages of a transformative
nature, some more pleasantly experienced than others. I also recall

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Mr. Blanton

> BTW, I don't have a lot of respect for Schmitt.  
> Are you aware of his falling out with Dr. Kevin Randall, 
> his former partner?

...

More than I had wished! I had many private email exchanges with Mr. Randle
back in the 90s in regards to the aftermath of this sordid affair. Needless
to say, he was pretty upset. There wasn't much I could do about it, not that
it was any of my business.  ;-)

BTW, another critic on another discussion group had this to say concerning
Mr. Schmitt's faults:

> "Schmitt claimed he had a bachelor's degree, a master's degree
> and was in the midst of pursuing a doctorate in criminology. He
> also claimed to be a medical illustrator. When checked, it was
> revealed he was in fact a letter carrier in Hartford, Wisconsin,
> and had no known academic credentials."

This is outlined in the following "wiki" entry:

See:
 >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident#Shoddy_research_revealed.3
B_witnesses_suspected_of_hoaxes

My Comments:

Regarding Wikipedia articles having to do with "Shoddy research revealed:",
as we all know, one should take some of the conclusions drawn there with an
extreme grain of salt. It has been claimed by certain researchers that Wiki
has acquired a gang of individuals who seem to bask in the limelight of how
many personal entries they can make. Compounding matters is the fact that
their true identities can be obfuscated, allowing them to post with
impunity. I have heard conjecture that many of these individuals keep scores
amongst each other - a kind of one-upmanship. They are also opinionated,
intolerant of those who might differ from their own POV, immediately
removing any counter opinions that might be posted.

---

It's appropriate that I now share some of my own perspectives in regards to
a colorful incident that occurred in the annals of UFO "soap opera", back in
the 1990s, the "falling of grace" of Mr. Schmitt and his subsequent
rehabilitation. I should start with a brief excerpt extracted from a recent
publication (2009) concerning the continuing Roswell investigation, titled
"Witness to Roswell". In the latest book published by Thomas C. Carey and
Donald R Schmitt, the following is stated about Mr. Schmitt's background:

---

Donald R. Schmitt resides in his native Wisconsin on a 45-acre ranch locate
just outside of Milwaukee in a little hamlet called Hubertus. Don possess a
bachelors degree from Concordia University and has taken graduate courses in
criminal justice at John's University. He has worked for the U.S. Postal
Service for the past 23 years. A talented artist, he has also freelanced as
a medical and commercial illustrator. Possessing a fine baritone voice, Don
also sings public for special occasions in the Milwaukee area. Don is the
former director of special investigations and co-director of the J. Allan
Hynek Center for UFO studies (CUFOS). He teamed with Kevin Randle in 1988 to
investigate the Roswell Incident, a collaboration that resulted in many
published articles and two best-selling books. UFO Crash at Roswell and The
Truth About the UFO cCrash at Roswell. The critically acclaimed movie,
Roswell, to which Don was a consultant, was based on the first book. Most
recently, Don has appeared in a National Geographic Special about Roswell,
Larry King Live!, and the CNN Morning Show. He continues to give
presentations about Roswell at conference around the country. Teaming with
Tom Carey in 1998, Don has vowed to continue a proactive Roswell
investigation until the ultimate truth is learned. Don and his wife, Marie,
have been married for four years.

http://www.amazon.com/Witness-Roswell-Unmasking-Governments-Cover-up/dp/1601
630662/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249333864&sr=8-1

http://tinyurl.com/mec9tn

-

Some of the specific details as to what I'm about to comment on I have
rarely spoken in public about. Back in the 90s when Mr. Schmitt teamed up
with Mr. Randle a terrible thing happened. Don Schmitt lied to his partner
Mr. Randle. Mr. Schmitt denied that he worked for the Post Office to his
then partner Mr. Randle. Compounding Schmitt's "sin" Mr. Randle then went to
bat for Mr. Schmitt in an attempt to squelch rumors that his partner worked
for the Post Office. One can only imagine the shock, disbelief, and sense of
betrayal Mr. Randle must have felt when he discovered that his partner, the
one he thought he trusted, the one he want to bat for, had lied to him.
Needless to say, the Randle-Schmitt partnership did not survive this kind of
abuse. Even I, myself, got temporarily caught up in Mr. Schmitt's lie.

Of course the question most of us should be asking ourselves is who gives a
frack whom one works for to pay the mortgage. I suspect this was one of the
most painful lessons Mr. Schmitt had to learn, that it doesn't really
matter. Mr. Randle c

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Mr. Blanton:

> John, [Mack] G-d rest his soul, also believed, much like you,
> that abductions were not totally physical.  He thought it might
> be only the spirit that was abducted.

I experienced a my own personal Mack of the 3rd kind encounter when I
briefly brushed past the venerable doctor at the 50th Anniversary of the
Roswell Crash festival held in Roswell, circa 1997. I handed Mack a post
card, a reproduction of one of the first *digital* paintings I ever created:
"The Seeding". 

http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/seeding_m.htm

He glanced at it and smiled briefly. As he walked away, he pocketed the
image and proclaimed, "You must be on drugs."

As Mack walked away, one of his aids leaned over and whispered something in
my year, something to the effect, that when Mack sez something like "...you
must be on drugs" it was meant as a complement. I took it as such.

But in reply to your comment about the abduction of the spirit. I'm not
entirely convinced that Mack would have perceived such spiritual
"encounters" within the context of an actual abduction scenario. But then,
let us not forget that old saying: "While the spirit is strong, the flesh is
weak."

Personally, I'm not attempting to put forth the premise that such encounters
are an "abduction of the spirit." It would be more precise for me to suggest
that many of such encounters (MANY, BUT NOT ALL) may be more a matter of the
more alienated portions of our "selves" attempting to reunite with the more
acceptable portions of our "selves."

I suspect we still have a lot to learn about "self."

This is a good thing!

--
Regards,
Steven Vincnet Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Mr. Storms

> Steven, are you suggesting the "something else" is 
> imagination or a mind probe by the aliens without physical contact?

Why either/or?

It seems plausible for me to speculate that some of the "somethings" may
indeed be of our own imagination. But then, as we are beginning to learn,
telecommuting is turning out to be a much cheaper way to conduct a
meeting-of-the-minds! ;-)

...


> My understanding is that the aliens were genetically
> designed for space travel and are not suited to endure
> on this planet for any length of time. To solve this 
> problem, they are redesigning themselves to be more 
> suited to work here.  This is a slow process that has 
> been ongoing for centuries. Unlike the science fiction 
> stories, they do not plan to take over, but instead to 
> gradually improve the human DNA.  God knows, we need 
> such an improvement.  As Chris observed, we humans 
> cannot survive much longer without being telepathic .  
> While this trait is a recessive talent in humans, the 
> aliens have mastered this skill. Hopefully, they will 
> gradually add this feature to our DNA.

The late Philip J. Corso expressed similar sentiments concerning alien
biological construction and related space faring concepts. I'm glad I had
the chance to schmooze briefly with the old coot down in Roswell back in 97.
He was fun to be around - lots of old war stories, i.e.: the Flying Tigers.
Least it sound like I'm denigrating Mr. Corso, no, I'm not.


> Carbon based life has to be the most common form 
> because only such compounds have enough variety to 
> allow all kinds of environments to be tolerated.  
> I would not expect alien DNA would match ours, but 
> it would be close enough to be a templet.  Once an 
> understanding of DNA is mastered, all kinds of 
> variations can be made, as we humans are discovering.  
> It just takes time to gradually create the transition.  
> After all, we humans evolved from something like a 
> mole after the last great extinction.  Although this 
> took many  millions of years, a knowledge of genetic 
> engineering can speed up this process.  Even using 
> our crude methods, we have made significant changes 
> in domestic animals and some plants, a process that 
> is accelerating as we better understand the genes.  
>
>> Ah, but they are smart aliens, I am told. They are 
>> highly advanced... so advanced, as the story goes, 
>> that somehow they managed to get themselves into a 
>> genetic pickle, where suddenly they need OUR genetic
>> material in order to fix THEIR genetic material. 
>
> I don't think this is the problem, exactly. They are 
> designed for space travel, which is not a "pickle".  
> Now that they have found a useful planet and a DNA 
> that is compatible with this environment, they are 
> working to have a permanent presence here, which 
> requires they be genetically like us.  As we attempt 
> to travel in space, we will discover that we are not 
> designed for this effort and will have to do some 
> genetic engineering ourselves.  This process has 
> started by selecting certain kinds of traits for the 
> astronauts.  These traits will be gradually amplified 
> until a class of people will evolve who are employed 
> for space travel, provided our other deficiencies 
> don't get in the way first.
>
>> Obviously, their technology is so vastly superior 
>> to ours that such "splicing" wouldn't be a problem.  
>> But... but... I sez to myself: If it is presumed they 
>> are so capable of performing such miraculous 
>> technologically precise DNA splicing feats wouldn't 
>> they have already figured out how to manufacture the 
>> equivalent of all our wholesome genes for which their 
>> species would need WITHOUT having to physically mine 
>> ours for all of our indigenous genetic fiddlybits? In a
>> sense, this conjecture is similar to what Jed has harped 
>> about more than once concerning whether we would even 
>> need to continue to extract oil from out of the ground 
>> once CF gets a good footing. According to Jed, if CF
>> becomes cheap and prevalent, we'll make it ourselves 
>> out of the base materials. 
>
> I don't see any conflict here. The genetic structure is 
> so complex, that starting from scratch would be very 
> difficult and inefficient.  What would be the point 
> when perfectly good gene components are already here 
> and working just fine?

All of the above reasons are perfectly plausible within the scientific
paradigms we currently hold.

Nevertheless, I only hope that you and others might at least be willing to
occasionally entertain the possibility that such "reasonings" might reveal a
rich underlying bedrock of mythic archetypes that have acquired relevant
meaning within our current technologically oriented society. 

As I continue waxing on: We cannot escape our fundamental need to engage
ourselves (our spirit) within the drama of mythmaking. Those who pride
themselves in believing that their hard-won formal educ

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

[Harry Veeder]

- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner 
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

> 
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> 
> > Great!
> >
> > now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than
> > you put in to make the motor spin.
> >
> > harry
> 
> Actually, that sounds like a better project for you! 8^)

I lack your equipment and practical knowledge. 
 
> It can't be even close, as far as mechanical energy.  The input is  
> almost all going to heat. 


> Marinov's force derived free energy 
> should  
> all show up in the form of torque, i.e. mechanical energy.  I see 
> no  
> reason whatsoever to expect excess energy, or even to have to draw 
> on  
> Marinov's longitudinal force to explain the operation of the motor. 

I am unfamiliar with Marinov's force. Even if magnetic hyestersis is the
best explanation for the increased rotation why does the coil heat up?

If the system were generating electricity and adding it to the supplied
current this would cause the coil to heat up.

 
> The magnetic hysteresis explanation looks far more credible, and  
> definitely more conventional to me.
> 
> I have far better designs to test for non-conservative forces, if I 
> 
> can ever get around to implementing them.

Harry

Re: [Vo]:Piston Fusion

[mixent]

In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:55:08 -0400:
Hi,

..and they want a billion dollars for this, without knowing whether or not it
will work. I don't know whether or not mine will work either, but I need ten
thousand times less to try it.

>http://www.technologyreview.com/business/23102/
>
>Sidebar:
>
>Power pistons: General Fusion's reactor is a metal sphere with 220
>pneumatic pistons designed to ram its surface simultaneously. The
>ramming creates an acoustic wave that travels through a lead-lithium
>liquid and eventually accelerates toward the center into a shock wave.
>The shock wave compresses a plasma target, called a spheromak, to
>trigger a fusion burst. The thermal energy is extracted with a heat
>exchanger and used to create steam for electricity generation. To
>produce power, the process would be repeated every second.
>
>
>
>I want one in my 1976 Chevy Vega!
>
>Terry
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

RE: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

[Roarty, Francis X]

 [Snip]

The longer wavelengths are not "replaced with shorter wavelengths inside
the cavity."  Space is filled with zero point field which has a
continuous and cubic energy distribution.  The shorter wavelength
radiation simply moves right through the plates and cavity unimpeded, as
if the cavity were not there.  It is not a matter of "appearance".
That is the standard theory. If you have a credible reference which
states otherwise, please provide it.  It would be most interesting.  

 

[Reply]

Horace,

Thanks for the compliment just don't ask how long they took
to create! In regard to your comment I was making the same point as you
and I think your comment was actually referring to the QED theory of
up-conversion where longer vacuum flux are excluded and replaced by
shorter flux to fill the void - I was contrasting their theory to mine
and should have made the demarcation clearer. If I got their theory
wrong I'll retract that portion given a little time to investigate but
whether the long flux are replaced with short flux is not the point I
was trying to make in any case. Everyone agrees that only short flux can
pass freely through the cavity and the controversy begins with what
happens to the long flux. The 3 theories in a nutshell: My theory allows
the long flux to translate relativistically such that they contract or
as Mauro puts it Planck's constant gets smaller inside a Casimir cavity
so they can fit through, Casimir theory just says the larger virtual
particles are restricted and the plates are "pushed" together, and QED
theory explains it all in terms of virtual photon exchange setting up an
imbalance that creates a static charge "pulling" the plates together.
AFAIK this is all still fluid.

 

Regards

Fran

 

BTW Your website is a great resource!



 

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

[Horace Heffner]

On Aug 3, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:


Great!

now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than
you put in to make the motor spin.

harry


Actually, that sounds like a better project for you! 8^)

It can't be even close, as far as mechanical energy.  The input is  
almost all going to heat.  Marinov's force derived free energy should  
all show up in the form of torque, i.e. mechanical energy.  I see no  
reason whatsoever to expect excess energy, or even to have to draw on  
Marinov's longitudinal force to explain the operation of the motor.   
The magnetic hysteresis explanation looks far more credible, and  
definitely more conventional to me.


I have far better designs to test for non-conservative forces, if I  
can ever get around to implementing them.



Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

[Horace Heffner]

On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Frank Roarty wrote:


Mauro,
I converted my power point presentation on  
fractional quantum states to html. I think it has bearing on your  
additional axis  from a relativistic  perspective http:// 
www.byzipp.com/energy/excessHeat.htm

Regards
Fran


Frank,

Your graphics are fabulous.  However, the above appears to me to  
filled with misinformation.  Rather than let it go by, as usual, out  
of frustration at the amount of time that would be involved to deal  
with all the issues, I will make just make one point.   The longer  
wavelengths are not "replaced with shorter wavelengths inside the  
cavity."  Space is filled with zero point field which has a  
continuous and cubic energy distribution.  The shorter wavelength  
radiation simply moves right through the plates and cavity unimpeded,  
as if the cavity were not there.  It is not a matter of  
"appearance".   That is the standard theory. If you have a credible  
reference which states otherwise, please provide it.  It would be  
most interesting.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

[Stephen A. Lawrence]

Frank Roarty wrote:

> 
> No, but I'll read about it. Reciprocal space sounds like a mirror space
> to me. By example, using the fourth dimension, you can invert a
> tridimensional sphere without breaking it. That is, you can put the
> inside out and viceversa, through a rotation over a fourth dimensional
> space, in the same way as you can invert a bidimensional figure by
> rotating it in a three dimensional space.

But you can't -- not just by rotating it.

Look at the attached 2D figure.  How would you *rotate* it in order to
put the blue ring on the outside and the red ring on the inside?

Of course, if you cut it out of paper and tried it, you wouldn't be able
to do it.  If it were made of rubber, you could turn it inside out in 3
dimensions, which you can't do in 2 dimensions, but that involves
considerable stretching as well as rotating. If it's made of paper
you'll tear it if you try to do that; it's not a simple rotation.

You can flip chirality with a simple 4-d rotation but not inside/outside.


> Just for clarity: How it'll look like? Tridimensionally, you'll see that
> the sphere starts shrinking, until becoming a point, and then starts
> growing again, but this time the inside is outside, and viceversa. It
> has inverted, like you can invert a glove. Suppose initially the sphere
> is painted blue in the inside, and red on the outside. After the fourth
> dimensional rotation, you'll get a blue sphere with a red interior.
> That's a fourth dimensional (semi) rotation. And that can be probably
> understood as "reciprocal spaces". A full rotation will bring you the
> original sphere again.

Again, you're turning the sphere inside out, which you can do in 4
dimensions (if the sphere is stretchable) but you're not doing it with a
simple rotation, in any number of dimensions.


> 
> Mauro
> 
> 
> 
> understood as the mirror image of a n-dimensional space, rotated in one
> higher (n+1) dimensional space.
> 
> ... or rather, like so many things that have been updated in order to bring
> 
> Dirac into the 21st Century, are you familiar with how this conception can
> 
> be reconciled with a '4th spatial dimension'? (even if others have rejected
> 
> that as a possible implication)
> 
>   
> 
> 
> No, I'm not familiar with that at all(although I would read about it as
> soon as possible). Anyways, see above for a possible method of
> reconciliation or equivalence between these concepts.
> 
> Mauro
> 
>  
> 
<>

[Vo]:Offer to graduate on "vortices" (new detail)

[Haiko Lietz]

Dear all,

I'm hearing that Prof. Dr. Ralf Otterpohl, Head of the Institute of 
Wastewater Management and Water Protection at the Technical University 
Hamburg-Harburg, is looking for a PhD student to write his dissertation 
about "vortices". The subject is quite free. The only condition is to 
move to Hamburg. If you're interested and want to discuss ideas you 
should contact Otterpohl directly. The work will be funded by a 
scholarship or by the Hamburg Water authorities.


Best luck

Haiko
--
Haiko Lietz, M.A.
Sociologist & Science Reporter
www.haikolietz.de

Gierolstrasse 55
53127 Bonn
Germany

Phone: +49 228 7101 3824
Cell: +49 163 666 0221

[Vo]:Offer to graduate on "vortices"

[Haiko Lietz]

Dear all,

I'm hearing that Prof. Dr. Ralf Otterpohl, Head of the Institute of 
Wastewater Management and Water Protection at the Technical University 
Hamburg-Harburg, is looking for a PhD student to write his dissertation 
about "vortices". The subject is quite free. The only condition is to 
move to Hamburg. If you're interested and want to discuss ideas you 
should contact Otterpohl directly.


Best luck

Haiko

--
Haiko Lietz, M.A.
Sociologist & Science Reporter
www.haikolietz.de

Gierolstrasse 55
53127 Bonn
Germany

Phone: +49 228 7101 3824
Cell: +49 163 666 0221

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

[Harry Veeder]

Great!

now you should see if you are getting more (or less) power out than 
you put in to make the motor spin.

harry

- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner 
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 7:23 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

> 
> On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
> >
> > Keep us posted as to your results. Very interesting, to me at least.
> >
> > --Kyle
> 
> 
> Here's the full write-up updated through today's experiments:
> 
> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf
> 
> It has links to videos of the control (ordinary magnetic bearings)  
> and live (non-magnetic stainless steel bearings) runs.
> 
> A couple 24 hour washes, one mineral spirits, the other acetone,  
> cured the intermittent conduction problem.
> 
> I'll have to reduce or eliminate the current sense resistor to have 
> a  
> chance get the series run to work.  I'm not sure it is necessary to 
> 
> make a series run however.  It is clear from the videos that the 
> non- 
> magnetic bearings don't produce torque.  In fact, when current is  
> applied they brake, probably due to the arcing.  In both live and  
> control runs a grinding noise can be heard as power is supplied, 
> and,  
> based on the breaking effect for the live run, I expect it is  
> probably due to arcing.
> 
> I have realized that the videos don't have to be very convincing,  
> because anyone who wants to convince himself can order the bearings 
> 
> and try it himself.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Horace Heffner
> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

[Horace Heffner]

The following has been updated to improve construction information  
and to note a follow-up experiment using graphite powder lubrication  
in the stainless steel bearings:


http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf

For convenience, the sections updated follow:

Experiment Construction

Some nonmagnetic stainless bearings were obtained from KMS Bearings:

http://www.thomasnet.com/catalognavigator.html?cov=NA&what=nonmagnetic 
+ball+bearings&heading=3920402&cid=270891&CNID=&cnurl=http%3A%2F% 
2Fkmsbearings.thomasnet.com%2FCategory%2Fradial-ball-bearings-3


http://tinyurl.com/mk3o4d

Two SSR8A-6-1/2B bearings with 1/2” ID, 1 1/8” OD, 3/8” width were  
ordered.  They are single row, 316 Stainless Raceways Radial Ball  
Bearings fitted with SS316 Balls.


Their lubricant washes out with soap and water.  I didn't, but  
probably should have ordered the model with a high temperature cage,  
but it only has to run (or not run) for a few seconds to test the  
thermal expansion hypothesis.


In addition, two Z99R8 1/2” ID, 1 1/8” General Bearing Corp. ordinary  
steel bearings were obtained locally.Fig. 5 is a photo of the  
four bearings obtained.


The stainless bearings were washed with hot water and Goo-gone soap.   
Both sets of bearings were then given washes in gasoline, followed by  
24 hour washes in mineral spirits, and then acetone. The extra washes  
were due to initially poor and intermittent conductivity through the  
bearings.


FOr use as flywheels, two all (nonmagnetic) zinc 4 inch OD die cast V- 
belt pulleys, at $6.70 each, were obtained from:


http://www.mcmaster.com

The steel setscrews were removed, and plastic electrician's tape was  
used to adhere the pulleys to the shafts.  The shafts were made of  
1/2” solid aluminum bar obtained from Home Depot.


Dimples were made on the shafts in order to limit the range of motion  
of the bearings on the shafts, and to increase the firmness of  
electrical contact.


Fig. 6 shows a side view of the experiment board under construction,  
including the  12 V motorcycle battery purchased at Wal-Mart.



The Experiments

Fig. 7 shows the experiment board wired with the two motors in  
series.  The nichrome resistor was measured at about 0.3 ohms.   
Channel 1 of the scope is across the battery, Channel 2 is across the  
current resistor.


This experiment did not produce continuous rotation of either type  
motor, due to insufficient current. The oscilloscope trace did show  
good series conduction through all 4 bearings however.


It was decided to next try a single motor at a time, to be sure  
enough current could be obtained. Single motor mode was achieved by  
shunting across the bearing mounts on the left and moving the  
magnetic bearings over to the right side.  No luck first try.  The  
resistor was cut in half, to 0.15 ohms roughly.  Measured 10 V across  
the resistor, and a 1.6 reduction in potential across the battery,  
givnig 67 amps for the run, but still no luck getting sustained  
rotation.  The magnetc bearings did show signs of an increased spin  
down time.


Then the resistor was cut roughly in half again, giving the  
configuration shown in Fig. 8 below.  The resistance was thus about  
0.075 ohms, the voltage drop across the resistor 9.20 V, and the  
voltage reduction across the battery was 2.00, down to 10 V.  The  
current was therefore 123 A.  Fig. 9 shows the scope post run.  This  
current estimate seems high, so if actual current should be important  
the resistance of the nichrome can actually be determined by bridge  
method.  The motor ran, not very fast, but sustained a faster rpm.   
Here is a video of this control run.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XBPzxXtJk

Note the resistor slowly picking up an orange glow as the run  
continues, and dropping it when the power is cycled off.


Next, for the live run, stainless bearings were exchanged for the  
magnetic steel bearings.  The voltage drop across the resistor was  
8.80 V, the voltage reduction across the battery was 2.4 V, to 9.6  
V.  The current was 117 amps.  The scope trace is shown in Fig. 10.   
It proves that current was flowing uniformly through the stainless  
bearings.  It was 117/123 = 95 percent of that flowing through the  
magnetic bearins, so is definitely enough to show a positive effect  
on spin down time, rather than the negative effect observed.  Here is  
the video of the test run:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cllaQFkxQQ

Notice how quickly applying current puts the breaks on.  This is just  
the opposite of the magnetic bearings, which speed up. The same  
grinding noise does appear when the current is on.  This may be due  
to arcing.


The nonmagnetic bearings were removed from their shaft.  One of them  
had a rough feel to its rotation, confirming that arcing and possible  
intermittent welding had roughened up either the balls or the races.   
Powdered graphite lubricant was added and the bearings work a while,  
whi

RE: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

[Frank Roarty]

Mauro,

I converted my power point presentation on fractional
quantum states to html. I think it has bearing on your additional axis  from
a relativistic  perspective  http://www.byzipp.com/energy/excessHeat.htm

Regards

Fran

 

 

From: Mauro Lacy [mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar] 
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

 

Mauro Lacy wrote: 

Jones Beene wrote: 

-Original Message-
From: Mauro Lacy 
 
  

Please take into account that when Hotson says 'imaginary direction' you


can read '4th spatial dimension'.
 
Are you familiar with the Dirac concept of "reciprocal space"?
  


No, but I'll read about it. Reciprocal space sounds like a mirror space to
me. By example, using the fourth dimension, you can invert a tridimensional
sphere without breaking it. That is, you can put the inside out and
viceversa, through a rotation over a fourth dimensional space, in the same
way as you can invert a bidimensional figure by rotating it in a three
dimensional space. Reciprocal space then can be


Just for clarity: How it'll look like? Tridimensionally, you'll see that the
sphere starts shrinking, until becoming a point, and then starts growing
again, but this time the inside is outside, and viceversa. It has inverted,
like you can invert a glove. Suppose initially the sphere is painted blue in
the inside, and red on the outside. After the fourth dimensional rotation,
you'll get a blue sphere with a red interior.
That's a fourth dimensional (semi) rotation. And that can be probably
understood as "reciprocal spaces". A full rotation will bring you the
original sphere again.

Mauro





understood as the mirror image of a n-dimensional space, rotated in one
higher (n+1) dimensional space.



... or rather, like so many things that have been updated in order to bring
Dirac into the 21st Century, are you familiar with how this conception can
be reconciled with a '4th spatial dimension'? (even if others have rejected
that as a possible implication)
  


No, I'm not familiar with that at all(although I would read about it as soon
as possible). Anyways, see above for a possible method of reconciliation or
equivalence between these concepts.

Mauro 

 

RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

[Frank Roarty]

Yes,

It is actually one of the paths that led me into adopting
Naudts' relativistic solution in that everyone was assuming the hydrogen
orbital must be getting smaller because the only other variable in the
energy equation was Planck's constant - or not so constant from a
relativistic perspective :_)

It is the opposite side of the same coin - I call it Lorentz contraction but
you can also say Plank's constant gets smaller as the ratio of small to
large  vacuum flux 

Increases- I would even propose that it becomes much larger as the ratio
goes in the opposite direction approaching C or an event horizon.

 

I just converted a power point to html that touches on this
http://www.byzipp.com/energy/excessHeat.htm 

Fran

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

 

It could also be relevant to the thread on Casimir cavities, and the
possibility of seeing excess heat from the simply expedient of adding a
nano-structured "source" of Casimir cavities, such as Raney Nickel, to an
appropriate medium.

 

Arata Zhang on a budget, so to speak.

 

 

 

From: Chris Zell 

 


Thank you for posting this.  While it deals with the micro level of reality,
it still illustrates the problem with reductionism and saying that something
is impossible because it violates a physical "law".

 

RE: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

[Jones Beene]

It could also be relevant to the thread on Casimir cavities, and the
possibility of seeing excess heat from the simply expedient of adding a
nano-structured "source" of Casimir cavities, such as Raney Nickel, to an
appropriate medium.

 

Arata Zhang on a budget, so to speak.

 

 

 

From: Chris Zell 

 


Thank you for posting this.  While it deals with the micro level of reality,
it still illustrates the problem with reductionism and saying that something
is impossible because it violates a physical "law".

 

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Divinity Paradigm, was the Abduction Paradigm

[Terry Blanton]

Methinks thou seeketh LAM, the entity who guided Barbara Bush's
grandfather, Aleister Crowley:

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm

Crowley died the year of the Roswell crash.  Keel died recently.

Terry

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

> Two valid questions:
>
> 1) what is the more precise identity of (something)?
>
> 2) what is (to present a certain appearance)?

Re: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

[Chris Zell]

Thank you for posting this.  While it deals with the micro level of reality, it 
still illustrates the problem with reductionism and saying that something is 
impossible because it violates a physical "law".


  

Re: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

[Harry Veeder]

So the quantum theoretic business is really a quantum idealization business.

Harry


- Original Message -
From: Mark Iverson 
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009 2:03 am
Subject: [Vo]: PhysOrg article on breaking Plank's law

> In this article:
>Breaking the Planck's law, at the nanoscale
>  
> http://www.physorg.com/news168101848.html 
> One of the authors states:
> "Current theory will not be valid once we push down to 1 nanometer 
> spacing." 
> Which is something that I've been saying for almost 2 decades; 
> namely, that all theories are valid
> only within the range of physical parameters present in 
> confirmatory experiments.  Once you get
> beyond those, be it pressure, temperature, voltage, current, 
> magnetic strength, etc., one cannot be
> certain that the 'laws of physics' (theory) will still apply.  
> Thus, when one is looking at a
> phenomenon such as CF or Mills' hydrinos, at least some of the 
> conditions are outside those of
> experiments which have defined theory.  Is it all that difficult to 
> imagine that hot-fusion theories
> breakdown, or don't even apply, when one is dealing with deuterium-
> loaded palladium at relatively
> normal temperatures?  I think not...
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
> 

[Vo]:OT: The Divinity Paradigm, was the Abduction Paradigm

[Jones Beene]

Terry Blanton wrote:

Me, I think it's all something like Terrance McKenna said:

"We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which
disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm
us."



The next logical progression in that sentiment is:

1) We are part of a symbiotic relationship with (something) which now
disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion ... 

2) so as (to present a certain appearance) for a substantial minority of
humanoids... 

3) but formerly disguised itself as Amun-Ra, Zeus, Thor, Zoroaster, Buddha,
Shiva, Om/Aum, Jehovah, Allah, Moroni, L Ron ;-) and so forth

Two valid questions: 

1) what is the more precise identity of (something)?

2) what is (to present a certain appearance)? 

The second seems to involve a certain amount of awe, fear, mystery, feeling
of superiority, hero-transference, etc.

The first seems to be a oscillating multiplicity of "personalities" which
can always act or merge back as a single force; whether it be a panoply of
gods, a trinity, a duality, or a host of angels ... or a host of aliens.

IOW there is a basic commonality with the alien abduction phenomena and
religion that is almost always swept under the rug of mass hysteria, by the
chief poobahs of religious doctrine, who do not wish to be associated with
the taint of heathen mentality (nor to jeopardize the collection plate).

 bah ... shame on me ... or is that "fool me once, shame on you, fool me
twice, shame on me" ?

Signed,

Pastor Rod Flash  - PhD ThD LsD   Powerhouse Church of the Presumptious
Assumption of the Blinding Light.

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

[Terry Blanton]

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent
Johnson wrote:

> Scenario 1)


> Scenario 2)

Scenario 3 was put forth by one of the remote viewers of fame, the
name of exactly which one escapes me.  He purports that the aliens are
actually time travelers from our future.  The human race altered their
DNA intentionally to try to eliminate all those "nasty" human
characteristics.

Unfortunately, they found that they went too far and have returned in
order to collect samples to restore those lost humane traits.

Me, I think it's all something like Terrance McKenna said:

"We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which
disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm
us."

Terry

Re: [Vo]:Marinov BB motor test problems

[Horace Heffner]

On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:


Keep us posted as to your results. Very interesting, to me at least.

--Kyle



Here's the full write-up updated through today's experiments:

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdf

It has links to videos of the control (ordinary magnetic bearings)  
and live (non-magnetic stainless steel bearings) runs.


A couple 24 hour washes, one mineral spirits, the other acetone,  
cured the intermittent conduction problem.


I'll have to reduce or eliminate the current sense resistor to have a  
chance get the series run to work.  I'm not sure it is necessary to  
make a series run however.  It is clear from the videos that the non- 
magnetic bearings don't produce torque.  In fact, when current is  
applied they brake, probably due to the arcing.  In both live and  
control runs a grinding noise can be heard as power is supplied, and,  
based on the breaking effect for the live run, I expect it is  
probably due to arcing.


I have realized that the videos don't have to be very convincing,  
because anyone who wants to convince himself can order the bearings  
and try it himself.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/