Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

   1. does it matter what kind of screen the image is created on?
  - vacuum tube gives an electrostatic charge that can be felt   *Not
  many around anymore, barely tested on them at all.*
  - laser print does too?*Works fine*
  - laptop screens may or may not produce charge effects; however, * I
  would note that the energy felt isn't just a slight electrostatic charge
  near the surface.*
 - image is predominantly white background and hands have heat
 sensors that are much more sensitive to changes in environment than to
 absolute values.
 - would inverted image (black background) produce similar effect,
 if one is observed. * It produces an effect but it is different
 and disagreeable, I have made myself sick if either the
energy is moving in
 the wrong direction or if inverted, interestingly if "normal"
the dominant
 energy should move CCW, but if inverted CW, but still it will produce
 negative effects with enough exposure, great degrees of
discomfort.  Also
 some versions can wide you out make you tired as a dog in
moments.  I have
 however got past those mistakes.*
 - etc.

2. hand motion:

   - how fast/slow?   *Any speed should works, you want to "pump it, if I
   give too many instructions I think people will be too in their head, but a
   smooth movement in and out about 1 foot front the screen to about an inch
   about one cycle a 1-2 seconds or so I guess.*
   -
   - prior testing of sensitivity:
  - like the eyes adapt to the light levels available, so does the
  various sensors in the hands.
  - with a little practice, one can "feel" the wind, or the change in
  air pressure on the fingertips as one moves the hand.
  - this could provide a positive for your test even if no image were
  present.  *There are different levels of
  sensation, at one level it is subtle and possibly explained away
with such,
  but sometimes, and often when the energy builds up there is no mistaking
  it, it is to the point of pain.*


   - does hand occlude image or not?  *Hand should be in-front of the
   image, depends on how close it is, if you are pumping you will see it as
   you move your hand back.*
   - does brisk rubbing of hands prior to test alter observed effects?   *This
   is used by Chi Gong and the like, I really don't know if that is beneficial
   or detrimental, but maybe detrimental, I do know this, any degree of recent
   exposure to the elements or to stresses from work can make it harder to
   feel energy, not impossible, but the baseline has been reset by these
   sensations and it is harder to notice the energy.*
   -
   - I have observed this to increase probability of another person sensing
  the direction of motion of your fingers above their palm (even with their
  eyes closed).  *Ok, then it might help!*
   - does hand dominance (right or left) affect result?  * Everyone is
   different, and some people have issues with one hand so I generally hope
   people will just try both, but typically right seems to be a bit favored
   maybe.*

3. eye motion

   - are you supposed to look at the image or the hand during the test?   *You
   can, it seems the eye has a ray and it increases the energy a bit, but it
   is not all necessary, some close their eyes to focus. *
   - does closing your eyes alter the effect if one is observed?  *It might
   or might not depending on the person and the design.*

4 etc.

If the effect you are seeking is so robust that 50% of subjects respond
(independent of test conditions/instructions), then details may not be
important. While my initial trial did not sense anything, I am sure that I
could "tune" my system to respond to the motion even without the image or
the screen (and even with the eyes closed). Is it worth the trouble to
determine if the image has an effect (with eyes open and closed)?

*I took the images printed on paper to a nearby town today, had a lower
rate of success than expected, I have not gone over the video, but I would
guess 30% felt the energy, and one woman who was a healer felt it without
it even pointing at her.*
*But I have in the past made coils and had about 30 our of 30 one time feel
the energy, it felt like about a 90% success rate at best for the physical
coils*

*The most I ever had in a row that didn't feel the coils was something like
2 or maybe 3, of course meeting strangers from all walks of life, some
aren't willing to try for more than a few seconds and give a very rapid
answer, still those figures hold.*

*I would have said the lower success rate than previous seemed to be maybe
been due to the fact that it was a printed image and their hand cast
shadows (possible) and not a lit screen which also has energy from the
hardware to contribute, sometimes the stove and oven running in the kitchen
clearly increases the energy over in the 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Andrew Meulenberg]

I was deliberately vague because that might have been your intention also.
If not, then:


   1. does it matter what kind of screen the image is created on?
  - vacuum tube gives an electrostatic charge that can be felt
  - laser print does too?
  - laptop screens may or may not produce charge effects; however,
 - image is predominantly white background and hands have heat
 sensors that are much more sensitive to changes in environment than to
 absolute values.
 - would inverted image (black background) produce similar effect,
 if one is observed.
 - etc.

2. hand motion:

   - how fast/slow?
   - prior testing of sensitivity:
  - like the eyes adapt to the light levels available, so does the
  various sensors in the hands.
  - with a little practice, one can "feel" the wind, or the change in
  air pressure on the fingertips as one moves the hand.
  - this could provide a positive for your test even if no image were
  present.


   - does hand occlude image or not?
   - does brisk rubbing of hands prior to test alter observed effects?
  - I have observed this to increase probability of another person
  sensing the direction of motion of your fingers above their palm
(even with
  their eyes closed).
   - does hand dominance (right or left) affect result?

3. eye motion

   - are you supposed to look at the image or the hand during the test?
   - does closing your eyes alter the effect if one is observed?

4 etc.

If the effect you are seeking is so robust that 50% of subjects respond
(independent of test conditions/instructions), then details may not be
important. While my initial trial did not sense anything, I am sure that I
could "tune" my system to respond to the motion even without the image or
the screen (and even with the eyes closed). Is it worth the trouble to
determine if the image has an effect (with eyes open and closed)?

AM
_ _ _

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:12 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> Your objection is also  inadequately specified.
>
> Do you mean my failing to mention that the energy could remain for some
> time after removal from the screen?
>
> Well, in that event, it has been remedied now, if the inadequacy is
> anything else I'm not sure what it might be, please clarify.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrew Meulenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the
>> number of people who will respond).
>>
>> AM
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> TLDR:  Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz
>>> place tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and
>>> out.  Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back
>>> either way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are
>>> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and
>>> some of those could feel the energy from my images.
>>> Roughly 50% do.
>>> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many
>>> here are too closed minded to even try it.
>>>
>>> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is
>>> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field
>>> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or
>>> Orgone).
>>> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then.
>>>
>>> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already
>>> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of
>>> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity.
>>>
>>> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to
>>> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active
>>> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel.
>>> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better
>>> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development.
>>>
>>> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone
>>> who wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition.
>>>
>>> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are
>>> patterns of light.
>>> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser
>>> fusion fuses matter.
>>> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on
>>> which electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and
>>> magnetic permeability of space.
>>>
>>> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the
>>> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether.
>>>
>>> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this
>>> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the
>>> images.
>>>
>>>
>>> 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[H LV]

I think it should be conducted on a website where a program randomly
chooses an active  and inactive image for each test subject. The program
would keep a record of the responses for each image. Afterwards you could
analyse the data. Harry

On Thu., Feb. 27, 2020, 9:12 p.m. Jonathan Berry, 
wrote:

> Your objection is also  inadequately specified.
>
> Do you mean my failing to mention that the energy could remain for some
> time after removal from the screen?
>
> Well, in that event, it has been remedied now, if the inadequacy is
> anything else I'm not sure what it might be, please clarify.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrew Meulenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the
>> number of people who will respond).
>>
>> AM
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> TLDR:  Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz
>>> place tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and
>>> out.  Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back
>>> either way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are
>>> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and
>>> some of those could feel the energy from my images.
>>> Roughly 50% do.
>>> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many
>>> here are too closed minded to even try it.
>>>
>>> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is
>>> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field
>>> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or
>>> Orgone).
>>> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then.
>>>
>>> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already
>>> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of
>>> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity.
>>>
>>> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to
>>> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active
>>> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel.
>>> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better
>>> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development.
>>>
>>> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone
>>> who wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition.
>>>
>>> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are
>>> patterns of light.
>>> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser
>>> fusion fuses matter.
>>> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on
>>> which electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and
>>> magnetic permeability of space.
>>>
>>> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the
>>> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether.
>>>
>>> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this
>>> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the
>>> images.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://ibb.co/S75gccz
>>>
>>>
>>> To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you
>>> are making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take
>>> a minute for the energy to become tangible.
>>> You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning.
>>>
>>> The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger
>>> than the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the
>>> energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is
>>> more compelling.
>>>
>>> If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join
>>> this email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences
>>>
>>> And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so:
>>> Ideas
>>> Emotional support.
>>> Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to
>>> heal X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on
>>> changes/details.
>>> Working on the theory, the science of it
>>> Donating money or raising money
>>> Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also
>>> hear and see things.
>>> Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this.
>>> Suggesting contacts
>>> Managing some sort of organization to further this science.
>>> Promoting this technology
>>> Helping with strategy.
>>>
>>> The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage
>>> still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and
>>> acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the
>>> world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the
>>> stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

Your objection is also  inadequately specified.

Do you mean my failing to mention that the energy could remain for some
time after removal from the screen?

Well, in that event, it has been remedied now, if the inadequacy is
anything else I'm not sure what it might be, please clarify.

Thanks.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:41 PM Andrew Meulenberg 
wrote:

> The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the
> number of people who will respond).
>
> AM
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
>> TLDR:  Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz  place
>> tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and out.
>> Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back either
>> way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are
>> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this.
>>
>>
>> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and
>> some of those could feel the energy from my images.
>> Roughly 50% do.
>> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many
>> here are too closed minded to even try it.
>>
>> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is
>> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field
>> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or
>> Orgone).
>> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then.
>>
>> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already
>> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of
>> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity.
>>
>> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to
>> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active
>> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel.
>> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better
>> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development.
>>
>> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone
>> who wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition.
>>
>> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are
>> patterns of light.
>> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser
>> fusion fuses matter.
>> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on which
>> electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and magnetic
>> permeability of space.
>>
>> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the
>> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether.
>>
>> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this
>> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the
>> images.
>>
>>
>> https://ibb.co/S75gccz
>>
>>
>> To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you
>> are making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take
>> a minute for the energy to become tangible.
>> You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning.
>>
>> The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger than
>> the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the
>> energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is
>> more compelling.
>>
>> If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join
>> this email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences
>>
>> And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so:
>> Ideas
>> Emotional support.
>> Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to heal
>> X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on
>> changes/details.
>> Working on the theory, the science of it
>> Donating money or raising money
>> Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also
>> hear and see things.
>> Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this.
>> Suggesting contacts
>> Managing some sort of organization to further this science.
>> Promoting this technology
>> Helping with strategy.
>>
>> The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage
>> still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and
>> acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the
>> world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the
>> stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and much much more.
>>
>> This is huge, and the difference might come down to your support, this
>> needs a pioneering spirit, so do you want to do something hugely positive
>> for the world?  Make a massive difference?
>>
>> As long as you have the desire to contribute to this, there should be a
>> way for you to do so.
>>
>> I hope I see all of you on my list:  https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences
>>
>> Regards,
>> 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Andrew Meulenberg]

The experiment is inadequately specified (unless the goal is to see the
number of people who will respond).

AM

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 5:53 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> TLDR:  Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz  place
> tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and out.
> Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back either
> way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are
> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this.
>
>
> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and some
> of those could feel the energy from my images.
> Roughly 50% do.
> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many
> here are too closed minded to even try it.
>
> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is
> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field
> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or
> Orgone).
> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then.
>
> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already
> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of
> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity.
>
> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to
> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active
> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel.
> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better
> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development.
>
> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone who
> wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition.
>
> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are
> patterns of light.
> Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser
> fusion fuses matter.
> Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on which
> electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and magnetic
> permeability of space.
>
> In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the
> aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether.
>
> About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this
> point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the
> images.
>
>
> https://ibb.co/S75gccz
>
>
> To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you are
> making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take a
> minute for the energy to become tangible.
> You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning.
>
> The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger than
> the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the
> energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is
> more compelling.
>
> If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join
> this email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences
>
> And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so:
> Ideas
> Emotional support.
> Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to heal
> X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on
> changes/details.
> Working on the theory, the science of it
> Donating money or raising money
> Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also
> hear and see things.
> Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this.
> Suggesting contacts
> Managing some sort of organization to further this science.
> Promoting this technology
> Helping with strategy.
>
> The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage
> still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and
> acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the
> world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the
> stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and much much more.
>
> This is huge, and the difference might come down to your support, this
> needs a pioneering spirit, so do you want to do something hugely positive
> for the world?  Make a massive difference?
>
> As long as you have the desire to contribute to this, there should be a
> way for you to do so.
>
> I hope I see all of you on my list:  https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan Berry
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

Sure, but "really strong aetheric energy" does not equal "a little bit of
electrical energy", it's possible but could time an un-known amount of
effort of negligible payoff.

There are many different forms of aetheric energy and not all are going to
be read on a meter, and to be honest I'm not sure that something that
lights an LED would be evidence of anything, I mean arrays of diodes can
sometimes rectify enough environmental EM to light up.

Also, if physical, there is a problem, people need to believe the video
isn't faked (or caused by some conventional effect I have wrongly ascribed
to aetheric) and they need to either replicate it, or send me money so I
can send them one.

Images are so practical, you can send them out in moments to people, they
can change the image (improving or breaking it), re-create it (replicate
it), do all sorts tests and try it on others.

Then, they can put together a physical version with wire they might have
lying around the house in as little as a few minutes.

If the energy from images had to be subtle, then I wouldn't be trying this,
but it is strong enough for some to be rather shocked.



On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Chris Zell  wrote:

> Sounds like Pavlita stuff.
>
>
>
> Build a pyramid-thing that lights an LED by itself ( if that can be done).
> Or some other simple inexplicable toy.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Berry 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:09 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part
>
>
>
> Thanks Harry...
>
>
>
> I had already made contact with Dean Radin (a scientist there who did a
> google talk) and he seemed a little interested but it didn't go anywhere
> back in 2017.   My tech is stronger now so perhaps that could be
> different this time.
>
>
>
> I tried now and rang several times going though to different extensions
> with none answering (left a message on one), all the email addresses say
> they don't answer emails, so we'll see what comes of that.
>
>
>
> It is very hard getting attention for something that looks more like the
> realm of magical sigils or psychotronics, but that is just the means of
> demonstrating the effect without needing to physically ship or recreate
> material devices.
>
>
>
> Despite the easily demonstrated reality of the effect, despite the
> applicability to hardware, despite the EXTREME promise of such technology,
> it is hard, to find an iota of interest, and more likely the person is to
> be "useful" to the objective on making this technology feasible the less
> likely they are to hear the pitch.
>
>
>
> The appearance of this is killing it.  I keep thinking that if I make it
> strong enough, startling enough (the intensity people report feeling from
> the images does increase as I improve the technology to a remarkable
> degree, something that could not occur with a placebo effect) that at some
> point it will be taken more seriously, and maybe it will...
>
>
>
> But, that won't happen if "USEFUL" people don't try it in the first place.
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Chris Zell]

Sounds like Pavlita stuff.

Build a pyramid-thing that lights an LED by itself ( if that can be done). Or 
some other simple inexplicable toy.

From: Jonathan Berry 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:09 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

Thanks Harry...

I had already made contact with Dean Radin (a scientist there who did a google 
talk) and he seemed a little interested but it didn't go anywhere back in 2017. 
  My tech is stronger now so perhaps that could be different this time.

I tried now and rang several times going though to different extensions with 
none answering (left a message on one), all the email addresses say they don't 
answer emails, so we'll see what comes of that.

It is very hard getting attention for something that looks more like the realm 
of magical sigils or psychotronics, but that is just the means of demonstrating 
the effect without needing to physically ship or recreate material devices.

Despite the easily demonstrated reality of the effect, despite the 
applicability to hardware, despite the EXTREME promise of such technology, it 
is hard, to find an iota of interest, and more likely the person is to be 
"useful" to the objective on making this technology feasible the less likely 
they are to hear the pitch.

The appearance of this is killing it.  I keep thinking that if I make it strong 
enough, startling enough (the intensity people report feeling from the images 
does increase as I improve the technology to a remarkable degree, something 
that could not occur with a placebo effect) that at some point it will be taken 
more seriously, and maybe it will...

But, that won't happen if "USEFUL" people don't try it in the first place.

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

Thanks Harry...

I had already made contact with Dean Radin (a scientist there who did a
google talk) and he seemed a little interested but it didn't go anywhere
back in 2017.   My tech is stronger now so perhaps that could be
different this time.

I tried now and rang several times going though to different extensions
with none answering (left a message on one), all the email addresses say
they don't answer emails, so we'll see what comes of that.

It is very hard getting attention for something that looks more like the
realm of magical sigils or psychotronics, but that is just the means of
demonstrating the effect without needing to physically ship or recreate
material devices.

Despite the easily demonstrated reality of the effect, despite the
applicability to hardware, despite the EXTREME promise of such technology,
it is hard, to find an iota of interest, and more likely the person is to
be "useful" to the objective on making this technology feasible the less
likely they are to hear the pitch.

The appearance of this is killing it.  I keep thinking that if I make it
strong enough, startling enough (the intensity people report feeling from
the images does increase as I improve the technology to a remarkable
degree, something that could not occur with a placebo effect) that at some
point it will be taken more seriously, and maybe it will...

But, that won't happen if "USEFUL" people don't try it in the first place.

--

I have decided to turn the bottom part of this email into a second email
with a new subject, so the below is redundant...
--

*Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried
the latest designs?*
*I predict that fewer people will have tried it that outright rejected it.*

*Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while
only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see
it but not feel it.*


*Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHO 
  Image here: https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 *

*The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression
artifacts, so a better example is posted at the second link.*

*My prediction is that very few even here, despite me being a member of
this group for well over 20 years, that fewer will try than report not
feeling it.  Though I hope to be proven wrong.*

*I will however shut up about this (if people want) if just 10 people try
and then report by voting if they feel it or not.*

*But, I might also ask, what if at least half do feel something, and that
some of those feel a compelling degree of activity, what then?*
*Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested?  I would
hope so, but we will see.*


Regards,
Jonathan





On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:08 AM H LV  wrote:

> Institute of Noetic Sciences
>
> https://noetic.org/
>
> https://noetic.org/science/
>
> harry
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:56 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
>> What a bunch of pretentious BS much of the art world is.
>>
>> I guess however I could treat it as art...
>>
>> Or, I could make journals of these designs with strange writings and
>> leave them places, they could become semi-famous on the internet (as has
>> occurred in the past).
>>
>> Or, I could just present this as the utterly ignored science it is to an
>> audience which in theory should be appropriate and be ignored anyway, ugh.
>>
>> Many on Vortex and elsewhere have seen the correlation, the suggestion
>> that these "weird" claims relating to Antigravity and Free Energy are due
>> to some "aetheric vortex".
>> In the 17 years of researching this before I made a coil in 2012 which
>> produced a tangible energy, I told many people about my "theory" only to
>> have others confirm they had seen the same correlation.
>> And at that early stage, it is an almost useless observation because so
>> little is known about how such a mechanism could work, and no way to know
>> if you are getting results (or so one might presume) until you get massive
>> gravity or (apparent) CoE defying evidence.
>> And yet, my images both prove the principles, and MOST people can feel
>> the energy.
>>
>> My images (or, more to the point the designs when embodied physically or
>> graphically) increase one's sensitivity.
>>
>> So I can give powerful and detailed mechanisms...  Theory...
>> And many (more than not) can feel the energy so lack of instrumentation
>> is not a hard problem.
>>
>> There is zero cost related to simple levels of experimentation with
>> graphics or even bits of wire.
>>
>> Developments can be shared with others rapidly, and experiments can be
>> tried at incredible rates, lifetimes of work can be done in months!
>>
>> It can and has been objectively proven to be real...  (though people
>> feeling energy from 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[H LV]

Institute of Noetic Sciences

https://noetic.org/

https://noetic.org/science/

harry

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:56 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> What a bunch of pretentious BS much of the art world is.
>
> I guess however I could treat it as art...
>
> Or, I could make journals of these designs with strange writings and leave
> them places, they could become semi-famous on the internet (as has
> occurred in the past).
>
> Or, I could just present this as the utterly ignored science it is to an
> audience which in theory should be appropriate and be ignored anyway, ugh.
>
> Many on Vortex and elsewhere have seen the correlation, the suggestion
> that these "weird" claims relating to Antigravity and Free Energy are due
> to some "aetheric vortex".
> In the 17 years of researching this before I made a coil in 2012 which
> produced a tangible energy, I told many people about my "theory" only to
> have others confirm they had seen the same correlation.
> And at that early stage, it is an almost useless observation because so
> little is known about how such a mechanism could work, and no way to know
> if you are getting results (or so one might presume) until you get massive
> gravity or (apparent) CoE defying evidence.
> And yet, my images both prove the principles, and MOST people can feel the
> energy.
>
> My images (or, more to the point the designs when embodied physically or
> graphically) increase one's sensitivity.
>
> So I can give powerful and detailed mechanisms...  Theory...
> And many (more than not) can feel the energy so lack of instrumentation is
> not a hard problem.
>
> There is zero cost related to simple levels of experimentation with
> graphics or even bits of wire.
>
> Developments can be shared with others rapidly, and experiments can be
> tried at incredible rates, lifetimes of work can be done in months!
>
> It can and has been objectively proven to be real...  (though people
> feeling energy from hidden devices and other such tests)
>
> And utterly fail to attract interest, even to evidence that this is the
> phenomena behind Antigravity and Free Energy can be abundantly demonstrated.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:52 AM H LV  wrote:
>
>> HOW TO SEE | Joan Miró
>> https://youtu.be/N2mrK33gCYE
>>
>> <> looks at us,” Joan Miró is a perfect subject for our series "How to See."
>> Here, on the occasion of the exhibition "Joan Miró: Birth of the World,"
>> curator Anne Umland and the artist’s grandson, Joan Punyet Miró, examine
>> the ways in which Miro worked to achieve a heightened state of awareness in
>> which to paint. Hear about the monsters of the subconscious, the way that
>> history guides the moral imperatives of his art, and why he loved New York
>> City.>>
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

What a bunch of pretentious BS much of the art world is.

I guess however I could treat it as art...

Or, I could make journals of these designs with strange writings and leave
them places, they could become semi-famous on the internet (as has
occurred in the past).

Or, I could just present this as the utterly ignored science it is to an
audience which in theory should be appropriate and be ignored anyway, ugh.

Many on Vortex and elsewhere have seen the correlation, the suggestion that
these "weird" claims relating to Antigravity and Free Energy are due to
some "aetheric vortex".
In the 17 years of researching this before I made a coil in 2012 which
produced a tangible energy, I told many people about my "theory" only to
have others confirm they had seen the same correlation.
And at that early stage, it is an almost useless observation because so
little is known about how such a mechanism could work, and no way to know
if you are getting results (or so one might presume) until you get massive
gravity or (apparent) CoE defying evidence.
And yet, my images both prove the principles, and MOST people can feel the
energy.

My images (or, more to the point the designs when embodied physically or
graphically) increase one's sensitivity.

So I can give powerful and detailed mechanisms...  Theory...
And many (more than not) can feel the energy so lack of instrumentation is
not a hard problem.

There is zero cost related to simple levels of experimentation with
graphics or even bits of wire.

Developments can be shared with others rapidly, and experiments can be
tried at incredible rates, lifetimes of work can be done in months!

It can and has been objectively proven to be real...  (though people
feeling energy from hidden devices and other such tests)

And utterly fail to attract interest, even to evidence that this is the
phenomena behind Antigravity and Free Energy can be abundantly demonstrated.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:52 AM H LV  wrote:

> HOW TO SEE | Joan Miró
> https://youtu.be/N2mrK33gCYE
>
> < looks at us,” Joan Miró is a perfect subject for our series "How to See."
> Here, on the occasion of the exhibition "Joan Miró: Birth of the World,"
> curator Anne Umland and the artist’s grandson, Joan Punyet Miró, examine
> the ways in which Miro worked to achieve a heightened state of awareness in
> which to paint. Hear about the monsters of the subconscious, the way that
> history guides the moral imperatives of his art, and why he loved New York
> City.>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[H LV]

HOW TO SEE | Joan Miró
https://youtu.be/N2mrK33gCYE

<>

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

With no answer, kind of hard to tell where people are at.

Though you indicate I'm preaching to a very quiet choir,I will say this in
support of the reality of this energy.
A few years ago I setup a test to see if I could feel which styrofoam cut a
little coil was under.

Now, there were some glitches in early testing I will readily admit, I
found that lines in table or cracks in things to influence what I felt.
I also found that a book under the table (it was a coffee table with 2
levels) reduced the effect markedly.

But once I took account of those issues, I had 10 cups and 9 or 10 times in
a row could feel which cup!
Now I'm sure there is a rick magicians use to do such a trick, and if it is
a trick, then I don't know what that trick is, also I didn't have the
person who did the setup when I would test it, I would go out of the room,
they would pick a cup to put it under (and move all the cups) they would
leave and I would go in and get the right cup.

The odds of getting the right cup that many times is 10 cups by chance is,
well it's just not what happened.

So there is a phenomena here.
It is sensible, it works and breaks based of how something is, and while
belief and consciousness can interfere to a modest degree, that ere a lot
more "signal" that noise.

I can show arguments for where these principles were employed in various
claimed Free Energy and Antigravity claims.

And an increasingly sophisticated grasp exists, most people can feel it,
and he nature of this phenomena allows us to borrow other branches of
physics, especially electrical as these energies have pseudo electrical
properties, are they fractional charges, virtual particles, or something
else?

Back when I presented this in 2013, it wasn't near as advanced, but while
there is still the issue of no obvious empirical measurement/detection of
the effects (because I have no need personally to explore that subject) it
is for many easy to interact with.

Physical result will doubtlessly arise with powered experimentation.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:50 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> No one is disagreeing with you.  We're so open minded out brains sometimes
> fall out.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 11:40 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
>> Let me make another point.
>>
>> If I said I had an effect with high voltage, Tesla coils, Vandegraff, all
>> manner of EM and it was producing levitation or other weird effects, it
>> wouldn't be that hard to believe because you have electromagnetic fields in
>> air, why couldn't that create exotic conditions?!   You would recognize it
>> as the Hutchison Effect.
>>
>> While an image is certainly less, the effects I am claiming are also
>> less, and it is manifested from electromagnetic fields in air, yes the
>> electromagnetic fields is just regular visible light but still it is at the
>> core still EM fields.
>>
>> I have heard claims that electromagnetic transmitters were in
>> interference creating supposed scalar waves and might have created a "tear'
>> in space, and that sound plausible.
>>
>> Tesla claimed that with electric fields he made the space between two
>> metal plates act as though it were solid.
>>
>> What this shows is that electromagnetism can stress space.
>>
>> So, if light can cut and push matter around...  Even cause fusion...
>> Then why can't electromagnetic fields influence the very medium in which
>> they have their existence?
>>
>> Sure, I will agree that the energy density of light is low, and it does
>> majorly decrease the strength of the effect, but if there is acceptance
>> that light can conceivably have some effect on "space" (virtual particles,
>> aether, whatever) then there is the possibility of making a device out of
>> light instead of matter, and if the design is good, when why not?!
>>
>> And even the devices made of matter are presumed to need electromagnetic
>> energy to run to levels powerful enough to do useful things.
>>
>> I admit I didn't expect making designs out of light to work when I first
>> tried, and it did require some improvement of the designs before I was even
>> sure...
>>
>> But, it DOES work, it might not be the best substance, but it is the most
>> practical.
>> Light has something akin to rest mass, put a lot of light in a reflective
>> box and the box acts as though it has more inertial mass with the light on
>> that off.
>>
>> Light  is a particle, it has energy, it only transmits through space
>> because space has the requisite ability to carry it's fields, to be
>> magnetized and polarized.
>>
>> Virtual particles exist, why wouldn't they be affected by light?
>>
>> Sure, it takes a very powerful design to make something potent with
>> light, but this isn't Psychotronics, or Placebo, or Psychic, it's Physics.
>>
>> It's a very new branch, and so please, give it a shot, there is near
>> infinitely much to gain and nothing to lose.
>> If you don't want to admit you can feel it on list, contact me privately,
>> I will simply report 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Terry Blanton]

No one is disagreeing with you.  We're so open minded out brains sometimes
fall out.

Cheers!


On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 11:40 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> Let me make another point.
>
> If I said I had an effect with high voltage, Tesla coils, Vandegraff, all
> manner of EM and it was producing levitation or other weird effects, it
> wouldn't be that hard to believe because you have electromagnetic fields in
> air, why couldn't that create exotic conditions?!   You would recognize it
> as the Hutchison Effect.
>
> While an image is certainly less, the effects I am claiming are also less,
> and it is manifested from electromagnetic fields in air, yes the
> electromagnetic fields is just regular visible light but still it is at the
> core still EM fields.
>
> I have heard claims that electromagnetic transmitters were in interference
> creating supposed scalar waves and might have created a "tear' in space,
> and that sound plausible.
>
> Tesla claimed that with electric fields he made the space between two
> metal plates act as though it were solid.
>
> What this shows is that electromagnetism can stress space.
>
> So, if light can cut and push matter around...  Even cause fusion...
> Then why can't electromagnetic fields influence the very medium in which
> they have their existence?
>
> Sure, I will agree that the energy density of light is low, and it does
> majorly decrease the strength of the effect, but if there is acceptance
> that light can conceivably have some effect on "space" (virtual particles,
> aether, whatever) then there is the possibility of making a device out of
> light instead of matter, and if the design is good, when why not?!
>
> And even the devices made of matter are presumed to need electromagnetic
> energy to run to levels powerful enough to do useful things.
>
> I admit I didn't expect making designs out of light to work when I first
> tried, and it did require some improvement of the designs before I was even
> sure...
>
> But, it DOES work, it might not be the best substance, but it is the most
> practical.
> Light has something akin to rest mass, put a lot of light in a reflective
> box and the box acts as though it has more inertial mass with the light on
> that off.
>
> Light  is a particle, it has energy, it only transmits through space
> because space has the requisite ability to carry it's fields, to be
> magnetized and polarized.
>
> Virtual particles exist, why wouldn't they be affected by light?
>
> Sure, it takes a very powerful design to make something potent with light,
> but this isn't Psychotronics, or Placebo, or Psychic, it's Physics.
>
> It's a very new branch, and so please, give it a shot, there is near
> infinitely much to gain and nothing to lose.
> If you don't want to admit you can feel it on list, contact me privately,
> I will simply report back numbers of people who feel and don't, and not
> give any names.
>
> But again, this isn't school, and there is no valid reason to be afraid
> small minded people.
>
> Screw the limits put on discussion by small minds, by normalcy, by
> convention, aren't we here to explore the outer fringes of what is possible
> and not play it safe?
>
> Rant over.  For now, I await responses.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan Berry
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
>> While I post that, I'd like to point out that there are blinders, or
>> artificial limits to what can be discussed in "respectable"
>> mainstream manner.
>>
>> It isn't that it is out of the question that aliens exist, the insane
>> abundance of stars in the sky and life in every nook and cranny of earth
>> tell us it's a near certainty...
>>
>> So then why is the idea that they have visited or sighting of such so
>> automatically and unthinkingly banned from scientific or
>> official discussion?
>>
>> Sure, you can discuss such a topic, but there is some weird ban on taking
>> it seriously, and just because where are silly and strange, even
>> inexplicable components to that phenomena does not explain or make valid
>> the taboo.
>>
>> The same goes for conspiracies, or evidence of crimes of political
>> leaders, this is another topic that regardless of the obvious plausibility
>> of such, it cannot be talked about in polite company.
>>
>> And, my subject here too of images that can produce a tangible
>> energy/substance, while it is a bit unexpected, it doesn't violate any
>> knows laws of physics, it could even be seen to be plausible given the
>> quantum vacuum and such, there is plenty of room among what is speculated
>> by conventional physicists to allow for this.
>>
>> And the only investment that is needed to witness this is a few seconds
>> and a not entirely closed mind,
>>
>> That's it, and if I am right, then, well that could be huge, right!
>>
>> Be aware that physical coils I have made have been felt by people even
>> when hidden and they have had zero introduction or expectation that there
>> was anything to feel.
>>
>> Someone on 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

Let me make another point.

If I said I had an effect with high voltage, Tesla coils, Vandegraff, all
manner of EM and it was producing levitation or other weird effects, it
wouldn't be that hard to believe because you have electromagnetic fields in
air, why couldn't that create exotic conditions?!   You would recognize it
as the Hutchison Effect.

While an image is certainly less, the effects I am claiming are also less,
and it is manifested from electromagnetic fields in air, yes the
electromagnetic fields is just regular visible light but still it is at the
core still EM fields.

I have heard claims that electromagnetic transmitters were in interference
creating supposed scalar waves and might have created a "tear' in space,
and that sound plausible.

Tesla claimed that with electric fields he made the space between two metal
plates act as though it were solid.

What this shows is that electromagnetism can stress space.

So, if light can cut and push matter around...  Even cause fusion...
Then why can't electromagnetic fields influence the very medium in which
they have their existence?

Sure, I will agree that the energy density of light is low, and it does
majorly decrease the strength of the effect, but if there is acceptance
that light can conceivably have some effect on "space" (virtual particles,
aether, whatever) then there is the possibility of making a device out of
light instead of matter, and if the design is good, when why not?!

And even the devices made of matter are presumed to need electromagnetic
energy to run to levels powerful enough to do useful things.

I admit I didn't expect making designs out of light to work when I first
tried, and it did require some improvement of the designs before I was even
sure...

But, it DOES work, it might not be the best substance, but it is the most
practical.
Light has something akin to rest mass, put a lot of light in a reflective
box and the box acts as though it has more inertial mass with the light on
that off.

Light  is a particle, it has energy, it only transmits through space
because space has the requisite ability to carry it's fields, to be
magnetized and polarized.

Virtual particles exist, why wouldn't they be affected by light?

Sure, it takes a very powerful design to make something potent with light,
but this isn't Psychotronics, or Placebo, or Psychic, it's Physics.

It's a very new branch, and so please, give it a shot, there is near
infinitely much to gain and nothing to lose.
If you don't want to admit you can feel it on list, contact me privately, I
will simply report back numbers of people who feel and don't, and not give
any names.

But again, this isn't school, and there is no valid reason to be afraid
small minded people.

Screw the limits put on discussion by small minds, by normalcy, by
convention, aren't we here to explore the outer fringes of what is possible
and not play it safe?

Rant over.  For now, I await responses.

Thanks,
Jonathan Berry


On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> While I post that, I'd like to point out that there are blinders, or
> artificial limits to what can be discussed in "respectable"
> mainstream manner.
>
> It isn't that it is out of the question that aliens exist, the insane
> abundance of stars in the sky and life in every nook and cranny of earth
> tell us it's a near certainty...
>
> So then why is the idea that they have visited or sighting of such so
> automatically and unthinkingly banned from scientific or
> official discussion?
>
> Sure, you can discuss such a topic, but there is some weird ban on taking
> it seriously, and just because where are silly and strange, even
> inexplicable components to that phenomena does not explain or make valid
> the taboo.
>
> The same goes for conspiracies, or evidence of crimes of political
> leaders, this is another topic that regardless of the obvious plausibility
> of such, it cannot be talked about in polite company.
>
> And, my subject here too of images that can produce a tangible
> energy/substance, while it is a bit unexpected, it doesn't violate any
> knows laws of physics, it could even be seen to be plausible given the
> quantum vacuum and such, there is plenty of room among what is speculated
> by conventional physicists to allow for this.
>
> And the only investment that is needed to witness this is a few seconds
> and a not entirely closed mind,
>
> That's it, and if I am right, then, well that could be huge, right!
>
> Be aware that physical coils I have made have been felt by people even
> when hidden and they have had zero introduction or expectation that there
> was anything to feel.
>
> Someone on Vortex had their daughter try it, all he said was "put your
> hand here and she felt it without even being primed with any real
> expectation.
>
> There was a 3? year old kid who asked what the coil was, she was asked to
> just put her hand over it, she said "oh, it's a heater" and ran off.
>
> A coil in the packet 

Re: [Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

While I post that, I'd like to point out that there are blinders, or
artificial limits to what can be discussed in "respectable"
mainstream manner.

It isn't that it is out of the question that aliens exist, the insane
abundance of stars in the sky and life in every nook and cranny of earth
tell us it's a near certainty...

So then why is the idea that they have visited or sighting of such so
automatically and unthinkingly banned from scientific or
official discussion?

Sure, you can discuss such a topic, but there is some weird ban on taking
it seriously, and just because where are silly and strange, even
inexplicable components to that phenomena does not explain or make valid
the taboo.

The same goes for conspiracies, or evidence of crimes of political leaders,
this is another topic that regardless of the obvious plausibility of such,
it cannot be talked about in polite company.

And, my subject here too of images that can produce a tangible
energy/substance, while it is a bit unexpected, it doesn't violate any
knows laws of physics, it could even be seen to be plausible given the
quantum vacuum and such, there is plenty of room among what is speculated
by conventional physicists to allow for this.

And the only investment that is needed to witness this is a few seconds and
a not entirely closed mind,

That's it, and if I am right, then, well that could be huge, right!

Be aware that physical coils I have made have been felt by people even when
hidden and they have had zero introduction or expectation that there was
anything to feel.

Someone on Vortex had their daughter try it, all he said was "put your hand
here and she felt it without even being primed with any real expectation.

There was a 3? year old kid who asked what the coil was, she was asked to
just put her hand over it, she said "oh, it's a heater" and ran off.

A coil in the packet of a friend, he went to a Hospital and someone next to
him asked "why that can I feel energy coming from the pen in your pocked
hitting me on the foot?".

I had another guy walk past and he felt it without having any expectations.
And another woman who was just told to put her hand above a notebook, she
didn't know there was anything other than a notebook there.

The point is that it becomes disingeniousness to claim that it is just the
placebo effect.
There is a science here, it is waiting for people with guts and
imagination, willing to step outside of the well worn tracks of science.

And yet, there is this illogical and unscientific taboo of open minded
investigation, or even any investigation into some things.

And that is true seemingly even here.

However, if you want to try a bunch of these, or read more, check out my
Quora post here, scroll to the images in the middle and try it out:

https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95


Because science isn't meant to be a religion, or a high-school where
subjects are not touched because of how it might look.

So please, give it a try, no matter how skeptical you are.
Only about 50% of people feel energy from images, about 90% of people feel
energy from physical designs.
But that is enough that there should be the ability to get some some kind
of answer.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:53 AM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> TLDR:  Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz  place
> tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and out.
> Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back either
> way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are
> numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this.
>
>
> Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and some
> of those could feel the energy from my images.
> Roughly 50% do.
> It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many
> here are too closed minded to even try it.
>
> Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is
> that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field
> of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or
> Orgone).
> My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then.
>
> This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already
> demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of
> Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity.
>
> This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to
> achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active
> blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel.
> It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better
> understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development.
>
> This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone who
> wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition.
>
> Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, 

[Vo]:Aetheric Science - Invitation to take part

[Jonathan Berry]

TLDR:  Keep an open mind, open this image: https://ibb.co/S75gccz  place
tour hand to face the image for a minute as you move your hand in and out.
Sounds impossible but you might feel something, please report back either
way, this science holds unprecedented promise for mankind, there are
numerous ways almost anyone can contribute to this.


Back about 2013 I posted about this on Vortex, a few people tried and some
of those could feel the energy from my images.
Roughly 50% do.
It is not in the mind, but a very real phenomena, though I am sure many
here are too closed minded to even try it.

Though it is hard to believe, yes even for me, what my work "proves" is
that images on a screen, or printed up can affect a little understood field
of energy or substance (the same kind of energy associated with Chi or
Orgone).
My work is incomparably stronger than it was back then.

This science can be used for accelerated healing, I have already
demonstrated that, but I came to this discovery from researching claims of
Overunity (Free Energy) and Antigravity.

This science has unlimited utility for mankind, though it's not going to
achieve that as images, please understand that images are just "Active
blueprints" which around 50% of people can feel.
It is a proof of principle, great for testing out ideas to gain a better
understanding of how this works at zero cost and rapid development.

This is a project to make the word better, and there are things anyone who
wants to help this exciting and promising project come to fruition.

Now, we are given to thinking images can't do anything, but images are
patterns of light.
Light can push matter (Solar sails) cut matter (Lasers) and even laser
fusion fuses matter.
Light is an electromagnetic stress on the medium of space, space on which
electromagnetic fields are embedded, the electric permativity and magnetic
permeability of space.

In short this results in images being able to impress a pattern into the
aether, and then aetheric energies flow through the stressed aether.

About half of the recipients (though I doubt many will read even to this
point) of this if they try it should be able to feel the energy from the
images.


https://ibb.co/S75gccz


To feel the energy, just place your palm infront of the image like you are
making a stop sign, and move your hand towards and away, it might take a
minute for the energy to become tangible.
You might begin to feel warmth, cool, pressure, tingle, burning.

The images I make now are at minimum many hundreds of times stronger than
the images I was making back in 2013, though people insensitive to the
energy don't always become sensitive to the energy with more, but it is
more compelling.

If you want to be a part of this project, one option is you could join this
email group I just created: https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences

And, if you want to help, there are endless ways to do so:
Ideas
Emotional support.
Testing the device, does it make plants grow faster, can I use it to heal
X, does it kill this virus or this bacteria, or make it grow based on
changes/details.
Working on the theory, the science of it
Donating money or raising money
Feedback of which images you feel (best), and what you feel, some also hear
and see things.
Donating resources, equipment, materials to test this.
Suggesting contacts
Managing some sort of organization to further this science.
Promoting this technology
Helping with strategy.

The fact is that while this technology is weird, and at an early stage
still, when it is embodied physically and given electrical and thermal and
acoustic and kinetic and other energies which is can become mixed with, the
world will have a technology which can open humanity to abundance, to the
stars, and to environmental rejuvenation, to healing and much much more.

This is huge, and the difference might come down to your support, this
needs a pioneering spirit, so do you want to do something hugely positive
for the world?  Make a massive difference?

As long as you have the desire to contribute to this, there should be a way
for you to do so.

I hope I see all of you on my list:  https://groups.io/g/AethericSciences

Regards,
Jonathan Berry