Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router
HI Ronnie Thanks very much for the info, I can see what you are saying in the Network Preferences. I will set up the router and try for a connection again. Kind regards and thanks heaps Chris On 10/08/2010, at 9:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, I've replied to your email to WAMUG Mailing list as you are more likely to receive help from someone 'On List'; who is using this Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway Modem/Router. In answer to your question below: Go to System Preferences Network Select your connection in the left hand column Click 'Advanced' Check under TCP/IP - Router: Is it showing the Router's IP Address there? Under 'DNS' and in DNS Servers, click + and type in the Router's IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro. Cheers, Ronni On 09/08/2010, at 12:52 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Ronni I have to get this router hooked up soon and have been unable to since you sent your last advice back at the end of May (see below). My memory is a bit slow today, so would you please refresh it? Below you say I need to: Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro Can you please let me know where I do this? I imagine it is in the Network setting somewhere? I can see where I need to change the primary and secondary addresses through the router config site, but not on the mac Thanks very much for your help Chris On 21/05/2010, at 4:27 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, Did he try these DNS address in the NextG router. Untick 'Use automatic DNS' and add the one's for your State. i.e. Primary DNS Server IP Address: 61.9.242.33 Secondary DNS Server IP Address: 61.9.226.33 Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro http://bigpond.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5586display=content Cheers, Ronni On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Ronni Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over 3 hours with the Telstra guy with no solution except that it appears that the earlier software version on the loan router works, but the later version on the new router does not!! We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as well. The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the link and the actual admin summary page. He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common thread for other mac users. Best regards Chris On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP Address: Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server: And Link Signal Strength. http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html Cheers, Ronni On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Ronnie I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under TCP/IP it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6. Thanks very much Ronni Chris On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it? Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP? Cheers, Ronni On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi muggers Hope things are ticking along nicely for all. I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a 15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I received from a very helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the new modem/router I purchased a few months ago. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I can still be online) actually does work with my mac, but the new one doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one has exactly the same problem and the guy describes in the first post of the forum ie I can get online for about a minute before I get no connection. I have to constantly restart the modem, or go into the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The funny thing is he can use this new modem with no worries on his PC at his work in Bunbury. This is the second new modem I have had and it does the same thing. If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if you have been able to find a solution. The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his work. Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem kind regards chris -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -
Re: Citrix client setup
On 10/08/2010, at 11:12 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: Is there anyone on the list with experience in setting up the latest Citrix Client software on a Mac? The documentation to this stuff could not possibly be more vague or confusing. I have a client who needs to access a web site which requires this stuff. The documentation is fraught with blind alleys and circular links, so I need some way to break through. Any assistance will be very gratefully received. Thanks to all who replied to this. It's the Dept of Mines site that my client wants to access, which appears to be somewhat out of date (as I guessed) in advising that the Citrix stuff does not work with Safari on the Mac. Clearly, the answers from Rob and Patrick contradict this. So the question remains: how to proceed? I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. I'm a bit non-plussed by Peter's comment that he just downloaded it and it worked. This has not been my experience at all. Having read all these comments I'll have another go. I must be missing something... Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Citrix client setup
On 10/08/2010, at 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/08/2010, at 11:12 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: Is there anyone on the list with experience in setting up the latest Citrix Client software on a Mac? The documentation to this stuff could not possibly be more vague or confusing. I have a client who needs to access a web site which requires this stuff. The documentation is fraught with blind alleys and circular links, so I need some way to break through. Any assistance will be very gratefully received. Thanks to all who replied to this. It's the Dept of Mines site that my client wants to access, which appears to be somewhat out of date (as I guessed) in advising that the Citrix stuff does not work with Safari on the Mac. Clearly, the answers from Rob and Patrick contradict this. So the question remains: how to proceed? I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. I'm a bit non-plussed by Peter's comment that he just downloaded it and it worked. This has not been my experience at all. Having read all these comments I'll have another go. I must be missing something... OK, it seems I was trying to make things too complicated by trying to do what the software was telling me to do. What a mistake! I found the Tengraph login area on the Mines Dept site and sure enough, it all worked. And from Safari! (Safari 5, Snow Leopard anyway :-) ) Thanks again all. Confidence is the key... Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Citrix client setup
On 10/08/10 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. The online plugin 'should just work', usually you would go to a website (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au), login with a username and password and that's it. You would then be presented with a list of Citrix-applications that you can load using the browser. I know it sounds too easy, but you shouldn't have to configure anything (unless for some reason their Citrix front end is not available externally from their network?) Is it by chance downloading a file when you try and login to their Citrix site? If so this generally means that the browser plugin hasn't loaded. In Safari you can open the Help menu and click on Installed Plugins to see if the Citrix online plugin is loaded in your current browser session. Mine shows this (excuse the crammed text): Citrix online plug-in Simple plug-in that handles Citrix connection files ‹ from file ³CitrixICAClientPlugIn.plugin². MIME TypeDescriptionExtensions application/x-icaQuickTime Movieica,asp,jsp,xps,aspx The Dazzle thing is another matter. It doesn't use a browser to connect, instead you run the Citrix Dazzle application, give it a server to connect to (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au) then enter your username and password. In our case the username has to be in the format of DOMAIN\username. Once logged in you will see a list of available 'Dazzle Apps', this is the same applications you would see if you logged in via a web browser. 'Adding' one of these apps will create a new application file inside /Applications/Dazzle on your computer which you can then run like a normal application to connect directly to the Citrix server. Hope some of this helps! Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence Systems Administrator Christ Church Grammar School Queenslea Drive Claremont WA 6010 Phone: (08) 9442-1660 Fax: (08) 9442-1690 plawre...@ccgs.wa.edu.au www.ccgs.wa.edu.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Citrix client setup
Yep, that's the way it was with me Peter On 10/08/2010, at 3:41 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/08/2010, at 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/08/2010, at 11:12 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: Is there anyone on the list with experience in setting up the latest Citrix Client software on a Mac? The documentation to this stuff could not possibly be more vague or confusing. I have a client who needs to access a web site which requires this stuff. The documentation is fraught with blind alleys and circular links, so I need some way to break through. Any assistance will be very gratefully received. Thanks to all who replied to this. It's the Dept of Mines site that my client wants to access, which appears to be somewhat out of date (as I guessed) in advising that the Citrix stuff does not work with Safari on the Mac. Clearly, the answers from Rob and Patrick contradict this. So the question remains: how to proceed? I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. I'm a bit non-plussed by Peter's comment that he just downloaded it and it worked. This has not been my experience at all. Having read all these comments I'll have another go. I must be missing something... OK, it seems I was trying to make things too complicated by trying to do what the software was telling me to do. What a mistake! I found the Tengraph login area on the Mines Dept site and sure enough, it all worked. And from Safari! (Safari 5, Snow Leopard anyway :-) ) Thanks again all. Confidence is the key... Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Citrix client setup
On 10/08/2010, at 3:54 PM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: On 10/08/10 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. The online plugin 'should just work', usually you would go to a website (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au), login with a username and password and that's it. You would then be presented with a list of Citrix-applications that you can load using the browser. I know it sounds too easy, but you shouldn't have to configure anything (unless for some reason their Citrix front end is not available externally from their network?) Yes, it does Just Work. It's mostly a question of finding the correct login location on the Mines Dept site. Having discovered that. the rest fell into place. Is it by chance downloading a file when you try and login to their Citrix site? If so this generally means that the browser plugin hasn't loaded. In Safari you can open the Help menu and click on Installed Plugins to see if the Citrix online plugin is loaded in your current browser session. Mine shows this (excuse the crammed text): Citrix online plug-in Simple plug-in that handles Citrix connection files ‹ from file ³CitrixICAClientPlugIn.plugin². MIME TypeDescriptionExtensions application/x-icaQuickTime Movieica,asp,jsp,xps,aspx The Dazzle thing is another matter. It doesn't use a browser to connect, instead you run the Citrix Dazzle application, give it a server to connect to (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au) then enter your username and password. In our case the username has to be in the format of DOMAIN\username. The problem is that, sitting alone at home with no idea about where to go, there is absolutely no clue given, either in the Dazzle application or on the Citrix site, about where to start looking for an appropriate server. At least I am in a position to understand that this is a problem that I can't solve easily. To my unknowledgeable client it presents a ridiculous situation. There may well be something similar to the ccgs server at the Mine Dept, but this is not spelled out in any of their instructions, so it all becomes an exercise in futility to a mug user. Once logged in you will see a list of available 'Dazzle Apps', this is the same applications you would see if you logged in via a web browser. 'Adding' one of these apps will create a new application file inside /Applications/Dazzle on your computer which you can then run like a normal application to connect directly to the Citrix server. Hope some of this helps! Yes, it has all helped in understanding how it all fits together, and I have been able to tell my client just to ignore Dazzle. I wonder how many hours have been wasted out there on trying to track down Dazzle stores! Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Want a laugh? Or a good cry?
In case you haven't seen it, have a look at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx It's a feeble attempt to start up the platform wars, it seems. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Citrix client setup
Hi Actually there are further problems in using the software (tengraph) supplied by the Government! There is no ability to transfer the information from this site to GPS's or other moving software like the easily used (unfortunately windows only) OziExplorer. They (the mines dept.) did suggest and promote the program MapWindows which makes the Citrix stuff look like childs play. As for their own software (GeoView and GeoViewer) even their own users can't use and/or understand the manuals. Regards Peter On 10/08/2010, at 4:19 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/08/2010, at 3:54 PM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: On 10/08/10 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. The online plugin 'should just work', usually you would go to a website (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au), login with a username and password and that's it. You would then be presented with a list of Citrix-applications that you can load using the browser. I know it sounds too easy, but you shouldn't have to configure anything (unless for some reason their Citrix front end is not available externally from their network?) Yes, it does Just Work. It's mostly a question of finding the correct login location on the Mines Dept site. Having discovered that. the rest fell into place. Is it by chance downloading a file when you try and login to their Citrix site? If so this generally means that the browser plugin hasn't loaded. In Safari you can open the Help menu and click on Installed Plugins to see if the Citrix online plugin is loaded in your current browser session. Mine shows this (excuse the crammed text): Citrix online plug-in Simple plug-in that handles Citrix connection files ‹ from file ³CitrixICAClientPlugIn.plugin². MIME TypeDescriptionExtensions application/x-icaQuickTime Movieica,asp,jsp,xps,aspx The Dazzle thing is another matter. It doesn't use a browser to connect, instead you run the Citrix Dazzle application, give it a server to connect to (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au) then enter your username and password. In our case the username has to be in the format of DOMAIN\username. The problem is that, sitting alone at home with no idea about where to go, there is absolutely no clue given, either in the Dazzle application or on the Citrix site, about where to start looking for an appropriate server. At least I am in a position to understand that this is a problem that I can't solve easily. To my unknowledgeable client it presents a ridiculous situation. There may well be something similar to the ccgs server at the Mine Dept, but this is not spelled out in any of their instructions, so it all becomes an exercise in futility to a mug user. Once logged in you will see a list of available 'Dazzle Apps', this is the same applications you would see if you logged in via a web browser. 'Adding' one of these apps will create a new application file inside /Applications/Dazzle on your computer which you can then run like a normal application to connect directly to the Citrix server. Hope some of this helps! Yes, it has all helped in understanding how it all fits together, and I have been able to tell my client just to ignore Dazzle. I wonder how many hours have been wasted out there on trying to track down Dazzle stores! Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Want a laugh? Or a good cry?
It's... Quite sad really... Half tragic half comic. Add to that that no matter what you want to say about Apple marketing, Microsoft has never learnt what slick means. On 10/08/10 4:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: In case you haven't seen it, have a look at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx It's a feeble attempt to start up the platform wars, it seems. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au mark.sec...@uwa.edu.au Mark Secker (Ba. Bus. IS/IP, ECU) Teaching Facilities Administrator Business School IT Services The University of Western Australia - CRICOS provider number 00126G M261 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley 6009 Phone 6488 1855, Fax 6488 1055, -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
TV DVD Recording
This may be off our usual topic but? At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV, however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs. Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal lounge situation? tom samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Want a laugh? Or a good cry?
Agreed...that just wants to make you cry. It's almost as bad as all the political rubbish we have to put up with on TV at the moment. :) /ducks for cover. What did they do, take an article written 12 years ago and hash it up with Windows 7. You have to laugh at Macs only come in white or silver. PCs are available in a full spectrum of colors across a range of price points.. Can anyone say iMac G3 when all you could (mostly) buy a PC in was any colour you wanted,...as long as it was beige. /sigh How that dribble gets to stay on the interwebs is beyond me,.. Let's sue for false advertising! ;o)) OK, off my soap box and back to reality,... Enjoy. Kind Regards Daniel -- Edit Ok, I wasn't going to do it, but I have to,... Windows 7 was designed to make it simpler to do the tasks you do every day (like crash more... and get more virii...), with features that the Mac doesn't have. For example, the new Snap feature makes it easy to view two documents side by side. (OMG, you can read two documents side by side!! Oh no, I can't do that on a Mac!!! Oh wait,..nvm...) ;o) Now where did I leave my Apple fan boy t-shirt. /end Edit. On 10/8/10 4:53 PM, Mark Secker m...@biz.uwa.edu.au wrote: It's... Quite sad really... Half tragic half comic. Add to that that no matter what you want to say about Apple marketing, Microsoft has never learnt what slick means. On 10/08/10 4:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: In case you haven't seen it, have a look at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx It's a feeble attempt to start up the platform wars, it seems. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au mark.sec...@uwa.edu.au Mark Secker (Ba. Bus. IS/IP, ECU) Teaching Facilities Administrator Business School IT Services The University of Western Australia - CRICOS provider number 00126G M261 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley 6009 Phone 6488 1855, Fax 6488 1055, -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: This may be off our usual topic but? At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV, however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs. Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal lounge situation? tom samson Hi Tom Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else. But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about 15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup. I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well. (And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.) Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,... Kind Regards Daniel -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Hi Rod Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients. Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system. With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get Analog and Digital signals, and some even allow analogue from other devices (eg VCR or older style movie cameras). With eyeTV you can watch live TV, do Time Shifting which pauses live TV until you come back and carry on from where you left of, or you can set it up to record TV (and even have it repeat recording). These recordings are saved to Hard Drive, where you can then watch them later and very easily edit (with the eyeTV software) and burn it to disk (DVD) with Toast. Or delete it once you don't need it. They are very small and excellent units (and many on the list can contest to). The great thing with the MacMini is it's small, low power and very convenient. Once you consider it also has wireless, then you've got full access to the internet (For a tv guide or some quick browsing). With iTunes streaming/sharing you've got access to File Sharing out of iTunes, so you can access all your music as well and listen to it via TV/Stereo (depending on how you have it all setup). Also with other programs like VLC, Real Player, iView (ABC etc) and other streaming internet sites you then get access to a lot more content (which you may have or own already), as well all so much other info that is out there. (YouTube etc). Run out of room or want to store more?? No problem. Plug in a Firewire Hard Drive and you've got access to a whole lot more storage at fairly reasonable pricing. Of course the MacMini also has DVD, so you can also watch your DVD's as well. (And VLC will handle DVD's that aren't Region Code4) So all in one you've then got your TV, DVD player, Internet Access, Music Access/storage. Oh, and I forgot iPhoto has picture sharing as wellso you can then access all your computers is the house and share photos as well. All displayed on your nice big LCD or Plasma TV. (Or 3D TV??) :o) I can't say I've ever tried to play games on them,..but hey, if you're that way inclined you can do that as well I'm sure. (Sim3 on TV) :) Hopefully that gives you an idea of how the set up works. Of course, as it's just a standard computer, you can use it do all that and anything else you'd normally do as well. All it requires (especially with these new ones), is the MacMini and an HDMI cable (if your TV has HDMI). Add on a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse (and Apple remote if you want) and you can sit on the couch and still use all the features. Blow up the resolution and have large icons. Set the Dock to only the major applications you want to use (and large dock size). Set up a couple of others things for ease of use,...and you're in business. It's actually a great little entertainment unit. As mentioned I've set quite a few of these up for many clients. I just sourced the hardware for them, and had it set up reasonably quickly. A quick demo of all the features and away you go. I have one client that has the MacMini set up with a small LCD screen (about 24 I think) and it sits on a wheelie table. They can just wheel it from room to room for ever want to use it. It's then their Spare entertainment centre. People stay over,..wheel it to the spare room and the quests have their own TV, DVD player and internet access to use. :o) Quite cool really. I had the same set up here until recently. (Only cause I needed to offload the MacMini for another project). But with the new MacMini, I'll be ordering a new one soon(ish) and set it up
Does a new user account access all Macintosh HD conten t ?
I'm a tad confused. I park all manner of folders on Macintosh HD, ie. folders alongside the standard Applications folder, Systems folder, and so on. It's a filing system I've always used, never had need to do anything different. If I create a new Account on my Mac, for a 3rd party user, I've always thought that the new user would not have access to any of those folders on my Macintosh HD, other than folders which they must have access to, eg. Applications. But not folders which I've created and added files to whilst logged in as myself. I've just discovered this doesn't seem to be the case. Are all files and folders directly within the Macintosh HD folder public property as far as local users go? Or do I have a Mac behaving badly? If my Mac is supposed to behave this way, then I guess it's a little embarrassing realising this after 16 years of using Macs. Better now than never I suppose. I'm guessing that I'm going to get told that if I want a multi user machine, I should be filing my own not for everybody stuff somewhere within my Home folder, but thought I'd best check with the experts before I start reorganising my whole filing cabinet. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
RE: TV DVD Recording
Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Daniel Kerr Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:16 PM To: WAMUG Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: This may be off our usual topic but? At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV, however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs. Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal lounge situation? tom samson Hi Tom Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else. But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about 15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup. I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well. (And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.) Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,... Kind Regards Daniel -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Hi Rod Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients. Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system. With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get Analog and Digital signals, and some even allow analogue from other devices (eg VCR or older style movie cameras). With eyeTV you can watch live TV, do Time Shifting which pauses live TV until you come back and carry on from where you left of, or you can set it up to record TV (and even have it repeat recording). These recordings are saved to Hard Drive, where you can then watch them later and very easily edit (with the eyeTV software) and burn it to disk (DVD) with Toast. Or delete it once you don't need it. They are very small and excellent units (and many on the list can contest to). The great thing with the MacMini is it's small, low power and very convenient. Once you consider it also has wireless, then you've got full access to the internet (For a tv guide or some quick browsing). With iTunes streaming/sharing you've got access to File Sharing out of iTunes, so you can access all your music as well and listen to it via TV/Stereo (depending on how you have it all setup). Also with other programs like VLC, Real Player, iView (ABC etc) and other streaming internet sites you then get access to a lot more content (which you may have or own already), as well all so much other info that is out there. (YouTube etc). Run out of room or want to store more?? No problem. Plug in a Firewire Hard Drive and you've got access to a whole lot more storage at fairly reasonable pricing. Of course the MacMini also has DVD, so you can also watch your DVD's as well. (And VLC will handle DVD's that aren't Region Code4) So all in one you've then got your TV, DVD player, Internet Access, Music Access/storage. Oh, and I forgot iPhoto has picture sharing as wellso you can then access all your computers is the house and share photos as well. All displayed on your nice big LCD or Plasma TV. (Or 3D TV??) :o) I can't say I've ever tried to play games on them,..but hey, if
Re: Used Macbook
Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Hi, Daniel, I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of our old, dying, VCR. There aren't many around these days, so I was hoping to jump to a saving-to-disk solution. We have a large CRT tv (3 years old) plus a set top box to receive digital. I have been considering getting an Elgato Video Capture Cable but we will still need either a Mac Mini or a laptop (or a keyboard) plus other bits as an interface. We are not quite ready to buy a digital tv, and we only want to record and replay tv programs. My main question to you is, do you have a used laptop with the right specs for sale? Intel Core Duo processor 512MB of RAM Built-in USB 2.0 port Mac OS X v10.5.6 Leopard or later QuickTime v7.6 or later iTunes v8.1 or later Any info or advice will be gratefully received. Pat Scott (WAMUG member 980) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Does a new user account access all Macintosh HD content ?
On 11/08/2010, at 6:11 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: 'm guessing that I'm going to get told that if I want a multi user machine, I should be filing my own not for everybody stuff somewhere within my Home folder, but thought I'd best check with the experts before I start reorganising my whole filing cabinet. You got it. User level documents should be kept below the User level not at the root level of the drive which should be reserved for System created folders. Anything that needs to be shared should be kept in the shared folder under Users. This didn't matter in pre OS X systems and many Mac users happily kept their stuff there. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Does a new user account access all Macintosh HD content ?
On 11/08/2010, at 6:11 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: I'm a tad confused. I park all manner of folders on Macintosh HD, ie. folders alongside the standard Applications folder, Systems folder, and so on. It's a filing system I've always used, never had need to do anything different. If I create a new Account on my Mac, for a 3rd party user, I've always thought that the new user would not have access to any of those folders on my Macintosh HD, other than folders which they must have access to, eg. Applications. But not folders which I've created and added files to whilst logged in as myself. I've just discovered this doesn't seem to be the case. Are all files and folders directly within the Macintosh HD folder public property as far as local users go? Or do I have a Mac behaving badly? If my Mac is supposed to behave this way, then I guess it's a little embarrassing realising this after 16 years of using Macs. Better now than never I suppose. Click one one of these folders and have a look at the permissions rules in the Get Info window. You'll find that while generally ownership of the folders will be assigned to System with read and write permissions, everyone else will have at least read permissions, which means everyone else has access to the folders: they just can't change their contents. Bear in mind that all this changed with the introduction of Mac OS X. Prior to that, Mac OS didn't really care where anything was, since it was a single-user system, ie you could not add different user accounts. In Mac OS X, everything that you want to belong to you must be kept inside your own account folder, ie, home. I'm guessing that I'm going to get told that if I want a multi user machine, I should be filing my own not for everybody stuff somewhere within my Home folder, but thought I'd best check with the experts before I start reorganising my whole filing cabinet. All you need to do is to move all your private stuff into your Documents folder. No one can get to them then. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Peter, My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current Macminis can't either. My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and one for the EyeTV stick. A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running the same p[program in your local TV retailer. Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV. Would never dream of using AppleTV instead. On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Used Macbook
John, with a DV recorder you: 1 Can't edit recorder material 2 Can't burn to DVD any worthwhile programs 3 Can't colour calibrate your system for much better picture quality 4 Can't switch on a live commercial program, do something useful for 30 to 45 minutes, then come and rewind to the start and start watching. Fast-forward over all of the ads. See the program and have a bonus of less frustration and 30 to 45 minutes of useful time to do other things. 5 Can't use the Mac for other computing tasks while watching TV, or at other times. On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 , John Thompson wrote: Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
RE: TV DVD Recording
Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken care of there. It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV can't do? Thanks Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ray Forma Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Peter, My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current Macminis can't either. My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and one for the EyeTV stick. A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running the same p[program in your local TV retailer. Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV. Would never dream of using AppleTV instead. On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, arrive late or contain viruses. By communicating with us via e-mail, you accept such risks. When addressed to our clients, any information, drawings, opinions or advice (collectively, information) contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing agreements. Where no such agreement exists, the recipient shall neither rely upon nor disclose to others, such information without our written consent. Unless otherwise agreed, we do not assume any liability with respect to the accuracy or completeness of the information set out in this e-mail. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and destroy and delete the message from your computer. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)? Best regards Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au www.justindavies.com.au 0414 567 638 9309 9309 Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/justinkdavies Business website: www.emergination.com.au Twitter: www.twitter.com/justinkdavies On 11 Aug 2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken care of there. It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV can't do? Thanks Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ray Forma Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Peter, My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current Macminis can't either. My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and one for the EyeTV stick. A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running the same p[program in your local TV retailer. Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV. Would never dream of using AppleTV instead. On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, arrive late or contain viruses. By communicating with us via e-mail, you accept such risks. When addressed to our clients, any information, drawings, opinions or advice (collectively, information) contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing agreements. Where no such agreement exists, the recipient shall neither rely upon nor disclose to others, such information without our written consent. Unless otherwise agreed, we do not assume any liability with respect to the accuracy or completeness of the information set out in this e-mail. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and destroy and delete the message from your computer. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi All -- -- I've been thinking of setting up a new home audio system, and would welcome suggestions of how to do this. I had in mind something like a Mac Mini (hence why I've latched on to this thread), with inputs (as needed) from a CD player, radio tuner, tape recorder, 78/45/33 turntable etc, maybe also playlists on a HD. -- For output, I was wondering if it would be feasible to have wireless-linked (but mains-powered) speakers, at a reasonable cost. With such a setup, it should be possible to choose any audio source and have playback from portable speakers anywhere in the house or garden. -- Would a Mac Mini (or laptop) centre be overkill in this situation, could I do just as well with a system of switches? Any ideas appreciated. Cheers -- David Noel 2010 Aug 11 === On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: This may be off our usual topic but? At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV, however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs. Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal lounge situation? tom samson Hi Tom Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else. But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about 15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup. I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well. (And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.) Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,... Kind Regards Daniel -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Hi Rod Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients. Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system. With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get Analog and Digital signals, and some even allow analogue from other devices (eg VCR or older style movie cameras). With eyeTV you can watch live TV, do Time Shifting which pauses live TV until you come back and carry on from where you left of, or you can set it up to record TV (and even have it repeat recording). These recordings are saved to Hard Drive, where you can then watch them later and very easily edit (with the eyeTV software) and burn it to disk (DVD) with Toast. Or delete it once you don't need it. They are very small and excellent units (and many on the list can contest to). The great thing with the MacMini is it's small, low power and very convenient. Once you consider it also has wireless, then you've got full access to the internet (For a tv guide or some quick browsing). With iTunes streaming/sharing you've got access to File Sharing out of iTunes, so you can access all your music as well and listen to it via TV/Stereo (depending on how you have it all setup). Also with other programs like VLC, Real Player, iView (ABC etc) and other streaming internet sites you then get access to a lot more content (which you may have or own already), as well all so much other info that is out there. (YouTube etc). Run out of room or want to store more?? No problem. Plug in a Firewire Hard Drive and you've got access to a whole lot more storage at fairly reasonable pricing. Of course the MacMini also has DVD, so you can also watch your DVD's as well. (And VLC will handle DVD's that aren't Region Code4) So all in one you've then got your TV, DVD player, Internet Access, Music Access/storage. Oh, and I forgot iPhoto has picture sharing as wellso you can then access all your computers is the house and share photos as well. All displayed on your nice big LCD or Plasma TV. (Or 3D TV??) :o) I can't say I've ever tried to play games on them,..but hey, if you're that way inclined you can do that as well I'm sure. (Sim3 on TV) :) Hopefully that gives you an idea of how the set up works. Of course, as it's just a standard computer, you can use it do all that and anything else you'd normally do as well. All it requires (especially with these new ones), is the MacMini and an HDMI cable (if your TV has HDMI). Add on a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse (and Apple remote if you want) and you can sit on the couch and still use all the features. Blow up the resolution and have large icons. Set the Dock to only the major
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi Peter, you have access to online TV channels, such as ABCs iView, so don't need to do as much recording of TV programs. I think other channels have this sort of thing as well. If you want to record to DVDs, having the MacMini attached makes it pretty seamless as EyeTV and Toast play well together. You have access to other computer functions on your TV. You can link to all of the media which is on your other computers in the house through filesharing and iTunes sharing. Using a mouse and keyboard with the MacMini makes some tasks easier in accessing media. I have both an AppleTV and the MacMini, but now that I have the new MacMini, would not bother to buy the AppleTV as the functions overlap. cheers, Susan. On 11/08/2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken care of there. It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV can't do? Thanks Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ray Forma Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Peter, My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current Macminis can't either. My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and one for the EyeTV stick. A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running the same p[program in your local TV retailer. Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV. Would never dream of using AppleTV instead. On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, arrive late or contain viruses. By communicating with us via e-mail, you accept such risks. When addressed to our clients, any information, drawings, opinions or advice (collectively, information) contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing agreements. Where no such agreement exists, the recipient shall neither rely upon nor disclose to others, such information without our written consent. Unless otherwise agreed, we do
RE: TV DVD Recording
Ok, thanks Susan, I can now see the differences. Now just have to convince myself that $999 is worth it over the $399 for the Apple TV. Not a huge sum difference and I think it will be more future proof as well going the Macmini route. Many thanks Susan and others for input on this topic. Regards Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Susan Hastings Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 10:29 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Hi Peter, you have access to online TV channels, such as ABCs iView, so don't need to do as much recording of TV programs. I think other channels have this sort of thing as well. If you want to record to DVDs, having the MacMini attached makes it pretty seamless as EyeTV and Toast play well together. You have access to other computer functions on your TV. You can link to all of the media which is on your other computers in the house through filesharing and iTunes sharing. Using a mouse and keyboard with the MacMini makes some tasks easier in accessing media. I have both an AppleTV and the MacMini, but now that I have the new MacMini, would not bother to buy the AppleTV as the functions overlap. cheers, Susan. On 11/08/2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken care of there. It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV can't do? Thanks Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ray Forma Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Peter, My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current Macminis can't either. My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and one for the EyeTV stick. A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running the same p[program in your local TV retailer. Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV. Would never dream of using AppleTV instead. On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be
Overview EyeTV Netstream DTT
Morning all I too have been watching the whole eyetv discussion with interest. One option is to stream the tv signal to any mac in the house via the following device. Are these available in Oz Daniel and does anyone have any info on how good/easy they are to use. cheers Pedro http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/tuner/netstreamdtt/product1.en.html -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
i'm using a powerbook g4/1.33ghz 2gig ram 320gig hd, have final cut studio2 installed doing edits for ch44 shows powerbooks do not have ibm chips.it would be an intel that came up with the macbook series.. then just someting re tv recording under the brand name strong str5425 you can get a recorder/ hd received-setop box for below $120.- but w/o hd in it the unit has a usb port for connecting a external hd up to 1tb (you can record 1ch watch another channel) records in mp4 format, you can removed the hd use a computer to view edit James On 11/08/2010, at 10:06, Justin Davies wrote: Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)? Best regards Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au www.justindavies.com.au 0414 567 638 9309 9309 Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/justinkdavies Business website: www.emergination.com.au Twitter: www.twitter.com/justinkdavies SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi David, I believe the mac mini (or other mac) only has one audio input (unless you buy specialist add-on audio gear) also a 78/45/33 turntable will need an equalising pre-amp (unless you get one of the new usb ones - not sure if they do 78!) - so you are not going to be able to just plug all that gear directly into the mac. I would have thought the best way to integrate this stuff with a mac system is to first have an audio system that combines all the audio sources - a central amp or receiver that all the other gear connects to - then I would connect the tape monitor output from the audio system to your computer input - that way you choose the audio source for the computer at the main amp. The sound output of the mac then needs to be directed to your actual playing amp/speakers - either directly or wirelessly via airtunes. First-off though, you really need to think why you want to include the mac in the loop - typically that would be to record/convert your analogue audio (radio/tape/turntable) to digital - or to rip your CDs to AAC or mp3 (since you say home audio, I'm leaving TV out of the picture). Once you have your music on the computer then, as you say, you can set-up various playlists. You also get the ability to stream audio wirelessly to, say, an airport express - though if that's all you want to do there are also other solutions you could look at. I would say that the first thing to do is work out exactly what you need to do: - Decide which of your music you want to have accessible on/through the computer (eg do you expect to just listen to the radio live - or do you also want to record that - etc) - List all your listening spaces and decide what sort of speakers you want and what sort of amp you need to drive them. - List all your music sources and where, physically you want to have/use them. - Decide where you want your computer to live. Then look at the practicalities of running wiring (audio/speakers) between rooms vs wirelessly streaming (many people find they use a combination - direct wiring for short runs, wireless where wiring would be problematic) Once you are clear exactly what you are trying to achieve, it will be easier to look at the alternative approaches/systems/components. Just my 2c worth. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 11/8/10 10:24 AM, David Noel at lis...@aoi.com.au wrote: Hi All -- -- I've been thinking of setting up a new home audio system, and would welcome suggestions of how to do this. I had in mind something like a Mac Mini (hence why I've latched on to this thread), with inputs (as needed) from a CD player, radio tuner, tape recorder, 78/45/33 turntable etc, maybe also playlists on a HD. -- For output, I was wondering if it would be feasible to have wireless-linked (but mains-powered) speakers, at a reasonable cost. With such a setup, it should be possible to choose any audio source and have playback from portable speakers anywhere in the house or garden. -- Would a Mac Mini (or laptop) centre be overkill in this situation, could I do just as well with a system of switches? Any ideas appreciated. Cheers -- David Noel 2010 Aug 11 === On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: This may be off our usual topic but? At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV, however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs. Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal lounge situation? tom samson Hi Tom Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else. But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about 15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup. I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well. (And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.) Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,... Kind Regards Daniel -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in Australia Hi Rod Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients. Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system. With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get
Re: Overview EyeTV Netstream DTT
Hi Pedro Sorry, not my long normal answer today, as am paying the price today of burning the candle at both ends and working too long hours the last couple of weeks. (And today got the better of me to remind me,..lol). But in answer to your question. Yes the Netstream is available in Australia. It retails for $399. More info on it here:- http://www.simms.com.au/ProductDetails.aspx?ItemCode=1NS106001000vendid=12 572catid=153ValueRam=0 And here:- http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/tuner/netstreamdtt/produ ct1.en.html You're sort of right, in that you can stream it to any Mac in the house. However, it's just really a unit with two tuners, so can only be watching it (or recording) on two machines. A third machine would have to wait. You can also do it wirelessly to the computers. However, this was a caveat as I saw it. The unit has an ethernet port on it, Therefore your TV areial and modem/router all have to be in the same spot, so the Netstream can plug into the Ethernet port on the router and then into the aerial. Sure, there would be ways around it by adding other devices to do it if all the gear wasn't in the same place, but then you're adding more cost to it. I can see it being a fairly good unit, if the conditions are right. :o) Hope that helps a little. Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 10:59 AM, Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au wrote: Morning all I too have been watching the whole eyetv discussion with interest. One option is to stream the tv signal to any mac in the house via the following device. Are these available in Oz Daniel and does anyone have any info on how good/easy they are to use. cheers Pedro http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/tuner/netstreamdtt/product1 .en.html -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi James Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were PowerPC units. It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all the chips were then Intel chips. The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5) The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all PPC (IBM) They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core chip) and the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro. Just wanted to clarify ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote: i'm using a powerbook g4/1.33ghz 2gig ram 320gig hd, have final cut studio2 installed doing edits for ch44 shows powerbooks do not have ibm chips.it would be an intel that came up with the macbook series.. then just someting re tv recording under the brand name strong str5425 you can get a recorder/ hd received-setop box for below $120.- but w/o hd in it the unit has a usb port for connecting a external hd up to 1tb (you can record 1ch watch another channel) records in mp4 format, you can removed the hd use a computer to view edit James On 11/08/2010, at 10:06, Justin Davies wrote: Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)? Best regards Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au www.justindavies.com.au 0414 567 638 9309 9309 Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/justinkdavies Business website: www.emergination.com.au Twitter: www.twitter.com/justinkdavies SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi Justin The only problem(s) you may have, and depending on your model of PowerBook, is the limitation of a) the USB ports b) the Storage space to buffer information c) the speed of your laptop and d) the version of software. To break it down a bit more,.. A) You require USB2 to run most of the plug in TV devices (eg EyeTV). The PowerBook G4 12-inch DVI was the first model to get USB2. Before that it was USB1 only and all the models after that were USB2 B) If the hard drive is quite small, then it will run out of room quickly if you want to record or bufffer TV. C) The speed of the machine can limit the info coming from the software etc D) The OS version can limit what sofware will be able to be installed. As a lot of the new software requires Intel machines these days. But yes, it may still be do-able. :) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 10:06 AM, Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au wrote: Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)? Best regards Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au www.justindavies.com.au 0414 567 638 9309 9309 Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/justinkdavies Business website: www.emergination.com.au Twitter: www.twitter.com/justinkdavies On 11 Aug 2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken care of there. It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV can't do? Thanks Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ray Forma Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Peter, My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current Macminis can't either. My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and one for the EyeTV stick. A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running the same p[program in your local TV retailer. Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV. Would never dream of using AppleTV instead. On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote: Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile. I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform. Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini have a burner on board or is it an external attachment? How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports? I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little more $$'s. Your comments appreciated. Regards Peter. Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could
12V MacBook Pro adaptors
Hi... Before I shell out for international shipping, I was wondering if anyone has similar items to these in stock? http://www.hypershop.com/HyperMac-Pure-DC-Car-Charger-for-MacBook-p/mbp-car.htm http://mikegyver.com/Store/ http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/ADPTMSC85/ The Apple store tells me my 10A power socket at 12V (120W) can't supply the 85W and as such they don't have anything on the shelf :) Have fun, Shay (Yes, I already have a sinewave inverter) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
thanks for the remark, i keep it in mind my thought was ppc processors are motorola units based on earlier systems.but it's not the case thanks anyway James On 11/08/2010, at 11:54, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi James Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were PowerPC units. It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all the chips were then Intel chips. The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5) The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all PPC (IBM) They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core chip) and the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro. Just wanted to clarify ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote: SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi James I could stand corrected, but I think the early PPC 680x0 chips were Motorola, then they went to IBM. (eg 68030, 68040) (Fuzzy brain day today) So it was things like the LCII, LCIII, 7200, 7500 etc,..were Motorola then once it went G3 etc, that was IBM. Then after that to Intel. Hope that helps a little. ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 12:08 PM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote: thanks for the remark, i keep it in mind my thought was ppc processors are motorola units based on earlier systems.but it's not the case thanks anyway James On 11/08/2010, at 11:54, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi James Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were PowerPC units. It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all the chips were then Intel chips. The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5) The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all PPC (IBM) They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core chip) and the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro. Just wanted to clarify ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote: SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Just to combine a few answers,... Peter - Yes, as others have mentioned and you saw on the site, it does have the burner installed. The Toast software is additional that you have to buy, but some versions of the Elgato untis come with a lite version of Toast. Makes burning content a lot easier. And generally Toast is a great piece of software. Ports - plenty of usb and Firewire ports, And all the others. You generally want a wireless keyboard and mouse to access it, rather then having to access it from sitting right in front of it with a wired keyboard and mouse. Or if you don't want to do it that way, you can use the Screen Sharing feature that the Mac has, so you can access it from another computer. Good and bad points to both. Cost - Obviously is a bit more expensive then an AppleTV, but as others have mentioned you can do a whole lot more. And it double as a whole other computer if you need another one. It's sort of one of those things, that once it's there you can see (and appreciate) how much more you can do with it. Sure, it's a bit of a learning curve, and it may not do everything but what it does do, it does well. (And add in an Apple remote and some of the features you can control from the little piece of technology.). David - As Neil mentioned you'd set the Macmini into the Amp and use it as another device there - eg CD, Radio, Turntable, AUX (MacMini) or something similar. So the amp would handle the content on the Macmini, but others would be the same as before. IF you wanted the Macmini to control all your content (music, tv shows, watch DVD's etc) then yes it may be an option. But if it was mostly just to control music, then it may not be the best method. I'm sure others more in an audio field may have ideas also. (Plus brain has decided to slow down again,..lol). Hope that all helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
EyeTV vs set-top box (was Re: Used Macbook)
I've had several HDD digital TV set-top boxes in past years but I've found an EyeTV-equipped Mac connected to a big screen to be far superior even for simple recording schedules, let alone all the other features (Note that AppleTV won't do any off-air TV recording so none of this is possible with that box). Here's just a few reasons: - SmartGuides in EyeTV for example are far superior to time and date scheduling as you just type in a keyword like David Attenborough or science fiction or sbs news and it will automatically record every documentary or movie that has that name in either the title or the paragraph description or type that accompanies every show in the Electronic Program Guide. Priceless, particularly when broadcasters move shows around or cancel or start them back up with little notice. I must have 30 or more smart guides for all sorts of shows and categories on my TV iMac. Smart Guides also allow you to enter complex criteria to weed out duplicates on HD channels etc if you want to get fancy. Smartguides can also be set to only keep a set number of a particular show, so we always have the last two days worth of the Ten, ABC, SBS and Nine evening news sitting on our Mac ready to watch if we so wish. - Exporting to iPod format means I have been able to build up a large library of movies, docos, Playschool (yes we have a toddler) and other recordings on a separate hard drive array that take up far less room than the huge MPEG-2 files that come down straight from the broadcaster and which fill the HDDs of set top boxes far too quickly. Of course, these can also easily be synched with your iPhone etc since they are already on the Mac - no disc burning or complex file transfers needed. - MUCH friendlier user interface - Using the built-in scheduling interfaces of most set-top boxes in my experience can be a very frustrating, cramped, limiting experience trying to enter data from a stupidly complex remote control. Instead being able to use a wireless mouse and Apple's excellent Bluetooth keyboard is SO much easier, there is no comparison. - If you need to record more than just one or two channels simultaneously, adding extra EyeTV receivers is an exercise in simplicity - plug it in a spare USB port, connect the antenna and voila! an extra TV channel. I've had 4 or more EyeTV units running on our lounge room iMac in the past allowing me to view and/or record up to that many channels simultaneously, all appearing in separate windows on the 50 Plasma. Picture-in-Picture eat your heart out. :-) - Cost. If you already have a useable Mac, an EyTV DTT USB receiver can be as cheap as $120. Maybe add a nice big external hard disk for your Mac and it is still cheaper than a decent set-top box. If you do need to buy a Mac Mini, the extra expense is usually worth it considering all of the computer-based things you can then also do on the big Plasma screen. Having such a large library of up-to-the minute pre-recorded shows means we never watch live TV so we don't sit there wasting our time with ads or shows we aren't really interested in. As a result we actually watch less TV than we ever did before because we only watch exactly what is interesting, we are not slaves to the TV schedule, we skip all the ads and when a recording finishes, we have to make the conscious decision to double-click another recording rather than sitting there in a vegetative state watching one bit of TV flotsam flow into another. IMHO of course. :-) -Mart Martin Hill mailto:mart_h...@mac.com homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill Mb: 0401-103-194 hm: (08)9314-5242 On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote: Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Hi, Daniel, I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of our old, dying, VCR. There aren't many around these days, so I was hoping to jump to a saving-to-disk solution. We have a large CRT tv (3 years old) plus a set top box to receive digital. I have been considering getting an Elgato Video Capture Cable but we will still need either a Mac Mini or a laptop (or a keyboard) plus other bits as an interface. We are not quite ready to buy a digital tv, and we only want to record and replay tv programs. My main question to you is, do you have a used laptop with the right specs for sale? Intel Core Duo processor 512MB of RAM Built-in USB 2.0 port Mac OS X v10.5.6
EyeTV vs set-top box
I've had several HDD digital TV set-top boxes in past years but I've found an EyeTV-equipped Mac connected to a big screen to be far superior even for simple recording schedules, let alone all the other features (Note that AppleTV won't do any off-air TV recording so none of this is possible with that box). Here's just a few reasons: - SmartGuides in EyeTV for example are far superior to time and date scheduling as you just type in a keyword like David Attenborough or science fiction or sbs news and it will automatically record every documentary or movie that has that name in either the title or the paragraph description or type that accompanies every show in the Electronic Program Guide. Priceless, particularly when broadcasters move shows around or cancel or start them back up with little notice. I must have 30 or more smart guides for all sorts of shows and categories on my TV iMac. Smart Guides also allow you to enter complex criteria to weed out duplicates on HD channels etc if you want to get fancy. Smartguides can also be set to only keep a set number of a particular show, so we always have the last two days worth of the Ten, ABC, SBS and Nine evening news sitting on our Mac ready to watch if we so wish. - Exporting to iPod format means I have been able to build up a large library of movies, docos, Playschool (yes we have a toddler) and other recordings on a separate hard drive array that take up far less room than the huge MPEG-2 files that come down straight from the broadcaster and which fill the HDDs of set top boxes far too quickly. Of course, these can also easily be synched with your iPhone etc since they are already on the Mac - no disc burning or complex file transfers needed. - MUCH friendlier user interface - Using the built-in scheduling interfaces of most set-top boxes in my experience can be a very frustrating, cramped, limiting experience trying to enter data from a stupidly complex remote control. Instead being able to use a wireless mouse and Apple's excellent Bluetooth keyboard is SO much easier, there is no comparison. - If you need to record more than just one or two channels simultaneously, adding extra EyeTV receivers is an exercise in simplicity - plug it in a spare USB port, connect the antenna and voila! an extra TV channel. I've had 4 or more EyeTV units running on our lounge room iMac in the past allowing me to view and/or record up to that many channels simultaneously, all appearing in separate windows on the 50 Plasma. Picture-in-Picture eat your heart out. :-) - Cost. If you already have a useable Mac, an EyTV DTT USB receiver can be as cheap as $120. Maybe add a nice big external hard disk for your Mac and it is still cheaper than a decent set-top box. If you do need to buy a Mac Mini, the extra expense is usually worth it considering all of the computer-based things you can then also do on the big Plasma screen. Having such a large library of up-to-the minute pre-recorded shows means we never watch live TV so we don't sit there wasting our time with ads or shows we aren't really interested in. As a result we actually watch less TV than we ever did before because we only watch exactly what is interesting, we are not slaves to the TV schedule, we skip all the ads and when a recording finishes, we have to make the conscious decision to double-click another recording rather than sitting there in a vegetative state watching one bit of TV flotsam flow into another. IMHO of course. :-) -Mart Martin Hill mailto:mart_h...@mac.com homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill Mb: 0401-103-194 hm: (08)9314-5242 On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote: Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Hi, Daniel, I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of our old, dying, VCR. There aren't many around these days, so I was hoping to jump to a saving-to-disk solution. We have a large CRT tv (3 years old) plus a set top box to receive digital. I have been considering getting an Elgato Video Capture Cable but we will still need either a Mac Mini or a laptop (or a keyboard) plus other bits as an interface. We are not quite ready to buy a digital tv, and we only want to record and replay tv programs. My main question to you is, do you have a used laptop with the right specs for sale? Intel Core Duo processor
Re: Used Macbook
Ray is a bit tough on HD recorders - my modest model does 1, 2 and 4 quite happily (well, 2 is a bit iffy, but in theory it can). Granted it can't do 3 or 5 - and it's only analogue, but I can't imagine a digital version being unable to do the same - maybe someone can correct this. I know you don't get to fiddle around with macs this way - but it was only 200 bucks... best alastair On 11/08/2010, at 2:40 AM, Ray Forma wrote: John, with a DV recorder you: 1 Can't edit recorder material 2 Can't burn to DVD any worthwhile programs 3 Can't colour calibrate your system for much better picture quality 4 Can't switch on a live commercial program, do something useful for 30 to 45 minutes, then come and rewind to the start and start watching. Fast-forward over all of the ads. See the program and have a bonus of less frustration and 30 to 45 minutes of useful time to do other things. 5 Can't use the Mac for other computing tasks while watching TV, or at other times. On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 , John Thompson wrote: Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Hi Guys I have been following this with interest :) I did have a Apple TV attached to my receiver and it worked very well for movies and all my music. I decided to sell the Apple TV and purchase a 27 iMac! I already had a eye TV, since doing this my receiver and LCD TV have not been turned on at all! Also there are rumours that Apple will be releasing a different Apple TV which may not have internal stowage. Best regards Roger On 11/08/2010, at 11:54 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi James Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were PowerPC units. It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all the chips were then Intel chips. The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5) The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all PPC (IBM) They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core chip) and the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro. Just wanted to clarify ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote: i'm using a powerbook g4/1.33ghz 2gig ram 320gig hd, have final cut studio2 installed doing edits for ch44 shows powerbooks do not have ibm chips.it would be an intel that came up with the macbook series.. then just someting re tv recording under the brand name strong str5425 you can get a recorder/ hd received-setop box for below $120.- but w/o hd in it the unit has a usb port for connecting a external hd up to 1tb (you can record 1ch watch another channel) records in mp4 format, you can removed the hd use a computer to view edit James On 11/08/2010, at 10:06, Justin Davies wrote: Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)? Best regards Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au www.justindavies.com.au 0414 567 638 9309 9309 Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/justinkdavies Business website: www.emergination.com.au Twitter: www.twitter.com/justinkdavies SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Used Macbook
(Apologies for my previous multiple postings - my iPhone for some reason couldn't send to the wamug list over Optus 3g, but then sent multiple versions when I got into a wifi zone.) I don't think Ray is being too harsh. I still have a hard disk equipped Strong STR5290 and it was frankly crap (please excuse the language but I feel that strongly about it). The user interface sucked, the remote control had too many incomprehensible buttons, it lost schedules and recordings, it lost the time, firmware updates failed to fix the bugs and the hard disk filled up too rapidly with too large MPEG-2 files. Let me stress that it was far harder to use and far less flexible than EyeTV for the simplest tasks. I've tried other set top boxes as well and some were better in some ways, but see my earlier (repeating!) post for the many other ways set top boxes I feel are significantly inferior. I'd personally avoid that brand and set-top boxes in general if at all possible for the same reasons we all buy Macs instead of PCs - elegance, ease of use, flexibility and it's a great excuse to get another Mac in the house (if you don't have an existing one you can press into service)! YMMV. :-) -Mart On 11/08/2010, at 12:20 PM, mince and pud wrote: Ray is a bit tough on HD recorders - my modest model does 1, 2 and 4 quite happily (well, 2 is a bit iffy, but in theory it can). Granted it can't do 3 or 5 - and it's only analogue, but I can't imagine a digital version being unable to do the same - maybe someone can correct this. I know you don't get to fiddle around with macs this way - but it was only 200 bucks... best alastair On 11/08/2010, at 2:40 AM, Ray Forma wrote: John, with a DV recorder you: 1 Can't edit recorder material 2 Can't burn to DVD any worthwhile programs 3 Can't colour calibrate your system for much better picture quality 4 Can't switch on a live commercial program, do something useful for 30 to 45 minutes, then come and rewind to the start and start watching. Fast-forward over all of the ads. See the program and have a bonus of less frustration and 30 to 45 minutes of useful time to do other things. 5 Can't use the Mac for other computing tasks while watching TV, or at other times. On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 , John Thompson wrote: Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Martin Hill mailto:mart_h...@mac.com homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill Mb: 0401-103-194 hm: (08)9314-5242 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: TV DVD Recording
Just one more thing... I just saw this article Hands on: Apple Mac mini on SMH Digital life: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/hands- on-apple-mac-mini/20100809-11tl2.html It has some discussion regarding using the Mac mini as a media centre. It raises some interesting points - be warned though - it is not necessarily particularly objective or well written. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 11/8/10 12:17 PM, Daniel Kerr at wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Just to combine a few answers,... Peter - Yes, as others have mentioned and you saw on the site, it does have the burner installed. The Toast software is additional that you have to buy, but some versions of the Elgato untis come with a lite version of Toast. Makes burning content a lot easier. And generally Toast is a great piece of software. Ports - plenty of usb and Firewire ports, And all the others. You generally want a wireless keyboard and mouse to access it, rather then having to access it from sitting right in front of it with a wired keyboard and mouse. Or if you don't want to do it that way, you can use the Screen Sharing feature that the Mac has, so you can access it from another computer. Good and bad points to both. Cost - Obviously is a bit more expensive then an AppleTV, but as others have mentioned you can do a whole lot more. And it double as a whole other computer if you need another one. It's sort of one of those things, that once it's there you can see (and appreciate) how much more you can do with it. Sure, it's a bit of a learning curve, and it may not do everything but what it does do, it does well. (And add in an Apple remote and some of the features you can control from the little piece of technology.). David - As Neil mentioned you'd set the Macmini into the Amp and use it as another device there - eg CD, Radio, Turntable, AUX (MacMini) or something similar. So the amp would handle the content on the Macmini, but others would be the same as before. IF you wanted the Macmini to control all your content (music, tv shows, watch DVD's etc) then yes it may be an option. But if it was mostly just to control music, then it may not be the best method. I'm sure others more in an audio field may have ideas also. (Plus brain has decided to slow down again,..lol). Hope that all helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
RE: EyeTV vs set-top box (was Re: Used Macbook)
Mart that was 'music' to read. Now I can contemplate an immeasurable number of simultaneous programs to record. Thanks for opening up my mind to the simplicity of it. My better half can't understand why I might ever want to record more than two (let alone one) program at any one time. With kids/Top Gear/Attenborough/Dr Who et al, there is the inevitable overlap which this solution fixes dead - for ever! Thanks again. Regards Peter... -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Martin Hill Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 11:03 AM To: wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: EyeTV vs set-top box (was Re: Used Macbook) I've had several HDD digital TV set-top boxes in past years but I've found an EyeTV-equipped Mac connected to a big screen to be far superior even for simple recording schedules, let alone all the other features (Note that AppleTV won't do any off-air TV recording so none of this is possible with that box). Here's just a few reasons: - SmartGuides in EyeTV for example are far superior to time and date scheduling as you just type in a keyword like David Attenborough or science fiction or sbs news and it will automatically record every documentary or movie that has that name in either the title or the paragraph description or type that accompanies every show in the Electronic Program Guide. Priceless, particularly when broadcasters move shows around or cancel or start them back up with little notice. I must have 30 or more smart guides for all sorts of shows and categories on my TV iMac. Smart Guides also allow you to enter complex criteria to weed out duplicates on HD channels etc if you want to get fancy. Smartguides can also be set to only keep a set number of a particular show, so we always have the last two days worth of the Ten, ABC, SBS and Nine evening news sitting on our Mac ready to watch if we so wish. - Exporting to iPod format means I have been able to build up a large library of movies, docos, Playschool (yes we have a toddler) and other recordings on a separate hard drive array that take up far less room than the huge MPEG-2 files that come down straight from the broadcaster and which fill the HDDs of set top boxes far too quickly. Of course, these can also easily be synched with your iPhone etc since they are already on the Mac - no disc burning or complex file transfers needed. - MUCH friendlier user interface - Using the built-in scheduling interfaces of most set-top boxes in my experience can be a very frustrating, cramped, limiting experience trying to enter data from a stupidly complex remote control. Instead being able to use a wireless mouse and Apple's excellent Bluetooth keyboard is SO much easier, there is no comparison. - If you need to record more than just one or two channels simultaneously, adding extra EyeTV receivers is an exercise in simplicity - plug it in a spare USB port, connect the antenna and voila! an extra TV channel. I've had 4 or more EyeTV units running on our lounge room iMac in the past allowing me to view and/or record up to that many channels simultaneously, all appearing in separate windows on the 50 Plasma. Picture-in-Picture eat your heart out. :-) - Cost. If you already have a useable Mac, an EyTV DTT USB receiver can be as cheap as $120. Maybe add a nice big external hard disk for your Mac and it is still cheaper than a decent set-top box. If you do need to buy a Mac Mini, the extra expense is usually worth it considering all of the computer-based things you can then also do on the big Plasma screen. Having such a large library of up-to-the minute pre-recorded shows means we never watch live TV so we don't sit there wasting our time with ads or shows we aren't really interested in. As a result we actually watch less TV than we ever did before because we only watch exactly what is interesting, we are not slaves to the TV schedule, we skip all the ads and when a recording finishes, we have to make the conscious decision to double-click another recording rather than sitting there in a vegetative state watching one bit of TV flotsam flow into another. IMHO of course. :-) -Mart Martin Hill mailto:mart_h...@mac.com homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill Mb: 0401-103-194 hm: (08)9314-5242 On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote: Hi Pat, If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder. These units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well. It would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location. I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when caravanning. Regards John Thompson On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote: Hi, Daniel, I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of
RE: TV DVD Recording
Thanks Daniel, heaps of good feedback today on this topic. Regards Peter. -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Daniel Kerr Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:17 PM To: WAMUG Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording Just to combine a few answers,... Peter - Yes, as others have mentioned and you saw on the site, it does have the burner installed. The Toast software is additional that you have to buy, but some versions of the Elgato untis come with a lite version of Toast. Makes burning content a lot easier. And generally Toast is a great piece of software. Ports - plenty of usb and Firewire ports, And all the others. You generally want a wireless keyboard and mouse to access it, rather then having to access it from sitting right in front of it with a wired keyboard and mouse. Or if you don't want to do it that way, you can use the Screen Sharing feature that the Mac has, so you can access it from another computer. Good and bad points to both. Cost - Obviously is a bit more expensive then an AppleTV, but as others have mentioned you can do a whole lot more. And it double as a whole other computer if you need another one. It's sort of one of those things, that once it's there you can see (and appreciate) how much more you can do with it. Sure, it's a bit of a learning curve, and it may not do everything but what it does do, it does well. (And add in an Apple remote and some of the features you can control from the little piece of technology.). David - As Neil mentioned you'd set the Macmini into the Amp and use it as another device there - eg CD, Radio, Turntable, AUX (MacMini) or something similar. So the amp would handle the content on the Macmini, but others would be the same as before. IF you wanted the Macmini to control all your content (music, tv shows, watch DVD's etc) then yes it may be an option. But if it was mostly just to control music, then it may not be the best method. I'm sure others more in an audio field may have ideas also. (Plus brain has decided to slow down again,..lol). Hope that all helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au * NOTICE - This message from Hatch is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential or proprietary. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, arrive late or contain viruses. By communicating with us via e-mail, you accept such risks. When addressed to our clients, any information, drawings, opinions or advice (collectively, information) contained in this e-mail is subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing agreements. Where no such agreement exists, the recipient shall neither rely upon nor disclose to others, such information without our written consent. Unless otherwise agreed, we do not assume any liability with respect to the accuracy or completeness of the information set out in this e-mail. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail and destroy and delete the message from your computer. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: 12V MacBook Pro adaptors
Time for that dreaded four letter word. eBay. I bought two cigarette lighter power supplies from someone on eBay last year, costing *about* $A50 each delivered. I've only used them a handful of times but they worked fine when required. If you want to have a look at one before buying then call me on 0418 922 500 and you're most welcome to have a look at mine. Direct link: http://computers.shop.ebay.com.au/Laptop-Accessories-/31530/i.html?rt=ncBrand=Apple_catref=1_dmd=1_dmpt=AU_Laptop_Accessories_fln=1_ipg=200_sop=12_ssn=global-cctv_ssov=1_trksid=p3286.c0.m282? Or, search by seller ID: http://myworld.ebay.com.au/global-cctv/ Regards, Phil On 11/08/2010, at 12:09 PM, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi... Before I shell out for international shipping, I was wondering if anyone has similar items to these in stock? http://www.hypershop.com/HyperMac-Pure-DC-Car-Charger-for-MacBook-p/mbp-car.htm http://mikegyver.com/Store/ http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/ADPTMSC85/ The Apple store tells me my 10A power socket at 12V (120W) can't supply the 85W and as such they don't have anything on the shelf :) Have fun, Shay (Yes, I already have a sinewave inverter) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au