Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

2010-08-10 Thread Chris Burton

HI Ronnie

Thanks very much for the info, I can see what you are saying in the  
Network Preferences.


I will set up the router and try for a connection again.

Kind regards and thanks heaps

Chris

On 10/08/2010, at 9:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

I've replied to your email to WAMUG Mailing list as you are more  
likely to receive help from someone 'On List'; who is using this  
Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway Modem/Router.


In answer to your question below:
Go to System Preferences  Network
Select your connection in the left hand column
Click 'Advanced'
Check under TCP/IP  - Router: Is it showing the Router's IP Address  
there?


Under  'DNS' and in DNS Servers, click + and type in the Router's IP  
Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 09/08/2010, at 12:52 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

I have to get this router hooked up soon and have been unable to  
since you sent your last advice back at the end of May (see below).  
My memory is a bit slow today, so would you please refresh it?


Below you say I need to:


Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro


Can you please let me know where I do this? I imagine it is in the  
Network setting somewhere?


I can see where I need to change the primary and secondary  
addresses through the router config site, but not on the mac


Thanks very much for your help

Chris



On 21/05/2010, at 4:27 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Did he try these DNS address in the NextG router. Untick 'Use  
automatic DNS' and add the one's for your State.

i.e. Primary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.242.33
 Secondary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.226.33

Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro

http://bigpond.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5586display=content 



Cheers,
Ronni

On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over  
3 hours with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it  
appears that the earlier software version on the loan router  
works, but the later version on the new router does not!!
We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as  
well.


The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the  
link and the actual admin summary page.


He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common  
thread for other mac users.


Best regards

Chris


On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP  
Address: Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS  
Server:

And Link  Signal Strength.

http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronnie

I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under  
TCP/IP it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.


Thanks very much Ronni

Chris

On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi muggers

Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.

I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system  
with a 15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my  
online service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov  
2008) I received from a very helpful manager at Telstra  
Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the  
new modem/router I purchased a few months ago.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html

The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so  
I can still be online) actually does work with my mac, but  
the new one doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one  
has exactly the same problem and the guy describes in the  
first post of the forum ie I can get online for about a  
minute before I get no connection. I have to constantly  
restart the modem, or go into the bigpond admin page to  
restart the software. The funny thing is he can use this new  
modem with no worries on his PC at his work in Bunbury. This  
is the second new modem I have had and it does the same thing.


If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear  
if you have been able to find a solution.


The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go  
through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his  
work.


Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem

kind regards

chris








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Re: Citrix client setup

2010-08-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 10/08/2010, at 11:12 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 Is there anyone on the list with experience in setting up the latest Citrix 
 Client software on a Mac? The documentation to this stuff could not possibly 
 be more vague or confusing. I have a client who needs to access a web site 
 which requires this stuff. The documentation is fraught with blind alleys and 
 circular links, so I need some way to break through. Any assistance will be 
 very gratefully received.
 

Thanks to all who replied to this. It's the Dept of Mines site that my client 
wants to access, which appears to be somewhat out of date (as I guessed) in 
advising that the Citrix stuff does not work with Safari on the Mac. Clearly, 
the answers from Rob and Patrick contradict this. So the question remains: how 
to proceed?

I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle and 
the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their term 
for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications from a 
Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not explained. 

I'm a bit non-plussed by Peter's comment that he just downloaded it and it 
worked. This has not been my experience at all. Having read all these comments 
I'll have another go. I must be missing something...


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: Citrix client setup

2010-08-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 10/08/2010, at 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 
 On 10/08/2010, at 11:12 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 Is there anyone on the list with experience in setting up the latest Citrix 
 Client software on a Mac? The documentation to this stuff could not possibly 
 be more vague or confusing. I have a client who needs to access a web site 
 which requires this stuff. The documentation is fraught with blind alleys 
 and circular links, so I need some way to break through. Any assistance will 
 be very gratefully received.
 
 
 Thanks to all who replied to this. It's the Dept of Mines site that my client 
 wants to access, which appears to be somewhat out of date (as I guessed) in 
 advising that the Citrix stuff does not work with Safari on the Mac. Clearly, 
 the answers from Rob and Patrick contradict this. So the question remains: 
 how to proceed?
 
 I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle 
 and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use 
 their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load 
 applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do 
 this is not explained. 
 
 I'm a bit non-plussed by Peter's comment that he just downloaded it and it 
 worked. This has not been my experience at all. Having read all these 
 comments I'll have another go. I must be missing something...
 


OK, it seems I was trying to make things too complicated by trying to do what 
the software was telling me to do. What a mistake! I found the Tengraph login 
area on the Mines Dept site and sure enough, it all worked. And from Safari! 
(Safari 5, Snow Leopard anyway   :-) )

Thanks again all. Confidence is the key...

 
Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: Citrix client setup

2010-08-10 Thread Patrick Lawrence


On 10/08/10 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

 
 I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle
 and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use their
 term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications
 from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not
 explained. 

The online plugin 'should just work', usually you would go to a website (eg
https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au), login with a username and password and
that's it. You would then be presented with a list of Citrix-applications
that you can load using the browser. I know it sounds too easy, but you
shouldn't have to configure anything (unless for some reason their Citrix
front end is not available externally from their network?)

Is it by chance downloading a file when you try and login to their Citrix
site? If so this generally means that the browser plugin hasn't loaded. In
Safari you can open the Help menu and click on Installed Plugins to see if
the Citrix online plugin is loaded in your current browser session. Mine
shows this (excuse the crammed text):

Citrix online plug-in
Simple plug-in that handles Citrix connection files ‹ from file
³CitrixICAClientPlugIn.plugin².
MIME TypeDescriptionExtensions
application/x-icaQuickTime Movieica,asp,jsp,xps,aspx

The Dazzle thing is another matter. It doesn't use a browser to connect,
instead you run the Citrix Dazzle application, give it a server to connect
to (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au) then enter your username and password.
In our case the username has to be in the format of DOMAIN\username.

Once logged in you will see a list of available 'Dazzle Apps', this is the
same applications you would see if you logged in via a web browser. 'Adding'
one of these apps will create a new application file inside
/Applications/Dazzle on your computer which you can then run like a normal
application to connect directly to the Citrix server.

Hope some of this helps!

Kind Regards

Patrick Lawrence
Systems Administrator
Christ Church Grammar School
Queenslea Drive
Claremont WA 6010
Phone: (08) 9442-1660
Fax: (08) 9442-1690
plawre...@ccgs.wa.edu.au
www.ccgs.wa.edu.au



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Re: Citrix client setup

2010-08-10 Thread Curtis Peter

Yep, that's the way it was with me
Peter
On 10/08/2010, at 3:41 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 
 On 10/08/2010, at 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 
 On 10/08/2010, at 11:12 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 Is there anyone on the list with experience in setting up the latest Citrix 
 Client software on a Mac? The documentation to this stuff could not 
 possibly be more vague or confusing. I have a client who needs to access a 
 web site which requires this stuff. The documentation is fraught with blind 
 alleys and circular links, so I need some way to break through. Any 
 assistance will be very gratefully received.
 
 
 Thanks to all who replied to this. It's the Dept of Mines site that my 
 client wants to access, which appears to be somewhat out of date (as I 
 guessed) in advising that the Citrix stuff does not work with Safari on the 
 Mac. Clearly, the answers from Rob and Patrick contradict this. So the 
 question remains: how to proceed?
 
 I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle 
 and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use 
 their term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load 
 applications from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do 
 this is not explained. 
 
 I'm a bit non-plussed by Peter's comment that he just downloaded it and it 
 worked. This has not been my experience at all. Having read all these 
 comments I'll have another go. I must be missing something...
 
 
 
 OK, it seems I was trying to make things too complicated by trying to do what 
 the software was telling me to do. What a mistake! I found the Tengraph login 
 area on the Mines Dept site and sure enough, it all worked. And from Safari! 
 (Safari 5, Snow Leopard anyway   :-) )
 
 Thanks again all. Confidence is the key...
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 
 
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Re: Citrix client setup

2010-08-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 10/08/2010, at 3:54 PM, Patrick Lawrence wrote:

 
 
 On 10/08/10 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle
 and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use 
 their
 term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications
 from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not
 explained. 
 
 The online plugin 'should just work', usually you would go to a website (eg
 https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au), login with a username and password and
 that's it. You would then be presented with a list of Citrix-applications
 that you can load using the browser. I know it sounds too easy, but you
 shouldn't have to configure anything (unless for some reason their Citrix
 front end is not available externally from their network?)

Yes, it does Just Work. It's mostly a question of finding the correct login 
location on the Mines Dept site. Having discovered that. the rest fell into 
place.

 
 Is it by chance downloading a file when you try and login to their Citrix
 site? If so this generally means that the browser plugin hasn't loaded. In
 Safari you can open the Help menu and click on Installed Plugins to see if
 the Citrix online plugin is loaded in your current browser session. Mine
 shows this (excuse the crammed text):
 
 Citrix online plug-in
 Simple plug-in that handles Citrix connection files ‹ from file
 ³CitrixICAClientPlugIn.plugin².
 MIME TypeDescriptionExtensions
 application/x-icaQuickTime Movieica,asp,jsp,xps,aspx
 
 The Dazzle thing is another matter. It doesn't use a browser to connect,
 instead you run the Citrix Dazzle application, give it a server to connect
 to (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au) then enter your username and password.
 In our case the username has to be in the format of DOMAIN\username.

The problem is that, sitting alone at home with no idea about where to go, 
there is absolutely no clue given, either in the Dazzle application or on the 
Citrix site, about where to start looking for an appropriate server. At least I 
am in a position to understand that this is a problem that I can't solve 
easily. To my unknowledgeable client it presents a ridiculous situation. There 
may well be something similar to the ccgs server at the Mine Dept, but this is 
not spelled out in any of their instructions, so it all becomes an exercise in 
futility to a mug user. 

 
 Once logged in you will see a list of available 'Dazzle Apps', this is the
 same applications you would see if you logged in via a web browser. 'Adding'
 one of these apps will create a new application file inside
 /Applications/Dazzle on your computer which you can then run like a normal
 application to connect directly to the Citrix server.
 
 Hope some of this helps!

Yes, it has all helped in understanding how it all fits together, and I have 
been able to tell my client just to ignore Dazzle. I wonder how many hours have 
been wasted out there on trying to track down Dazzle stores!


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Want a laugh? Or a good cry?

2010-08-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

In case you haven't seen it, have a look at 

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx

It's a feeble attempt to start up the platform wars, it seems. 


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Re: Citrix client setup

2010-08-10 Thread Curtis Peter

Hi
Actually there are further problems in using the software (tengraph) supplied 
by the Government! There is no ability to transfer the information from this 
site to GPS's or other moving software like the easily used (unfortunately 
windows only) OziExplorer. They (the mines dept.) did suggest and promote the 
program MapWindows which makes the Citrix stuff look like childs play. As for 
their own software (GeoView and GeoViewer) even their own users can't use 
and/or understand the manuals.
Regards
Peter
On 10/08/2010, at 4:19 PM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 
 On 10/08/2010, at 3:54 PM, Patrick Lawrence wrote:
 
 
 
 On 10/08/10 3:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 I have downloaded the Citrix Online plugin, which has installed both Dazzle
 and the browser plugin. However the barely-existent Dazzle help (I use 
 their
 term for it advisedly) indicates that it is necessary to load applications
 from a Dazzle store. Just where to go on the internet to do this is not
 explained. 
 
 The online plugin 'should just work', usually you would go to a website (eg
 https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au), login with a username and password and
 that's it. You would then be presented with a list of Citrix-applications
 that you can load using the browser. I know it sounds too easy, but you
 shouldn't have to configure anything (unless for some reason their Citrix
 front end is not available externally from their network?)
 
 Yes, it does Just Work. It's mostly a question of finding the correct login 
 location on the Mines Dept site. Having discovered that. the rest fell into 
 place.
 
 
 Is it by chance downloading a file when you try and login to their Citrix
 site? If so this generally means that the browser plugin hasn't loaded. In
 Safari you can open the Help menu and click on Installed Plugins to see if
 the Citrix online plugin is loaded in your current browser session. Mine
 shows this (excuse the crammed text):
 
 Citrix online plug-in
 Simple plug-in that handles Citrix connection files ‹ from file
 ³CitrixICAClientPlugIn.plugin².
 MIME TypeDescriptionExtensions
 application/x-icaQuickTime Movieica,asp,jsp,xps,aspx
 
 The Dazzle thing is another matter. It doesn't use a browser to connect,
 instead you run the Citrix Dazzle application, give it a server to connect
 to (eg https://citrix.ccgs.wa.edu.au) then enter your username and password.
 In our case the username has to be in the format of DOMAIN\username.
 
 The problem is that, sitting alone at home with no idea about where to go, 
 there is absolutely no clue given, either in the Dazzle application or on the 
 Citrix site, about where to start looking for an appropriate server. At least 
 I am in a position to understand that this is a problem that I can't solve 
 easily. To my unknowledgeable client it presents a ridiculous situation. 
 There may well be something similar to the ccgs server at the Mine Dept, but 
 this is not spelled out in any of their instructions, so it all becomes an 
 exercise in futility to a mug user. 
 
 
 Once logged in you will see a list of available 'Dazzle Apps', this is the
 same applications you would see if you logged in via a web browser. 'Adding'
 one of these apps will create a new application file inside
 /Applications/Dazzle on your computer which you can then run like a normal
 application to connect directly to the Citrix server.
 
 Hope some of this helps!
 
 Yes, it has all helped in understanding how it all fits together, and I have 
 been able to tell my client just to ignore Dazzle. I wonder how many hours 
 have been wasted out there on trying to track down Dazzle stores!
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 
 
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Re: Want a laugh? Or a good cry?

2010-08-10 Thread Mark Secker

It's... Quite sad really... Half tragic half comic.

Add to that that no matter what you want to say about Apple marketing,
Microsoft has never learnt what slick means.


On 10/08/10 4:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

 
 In case you haven't seen it, have a look at
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx
 
 It's a feeble attempt to start up the platform wars, it seems.
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
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TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread thefrogs

This may be off our usual topic but?

At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our DVD 
player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV, 
however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs.
Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal 
lounge situation?
tom samson

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Re: Want a laugh? Or a good cry?

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

Agreed...that just wants to make you cry.

It's almost as bad as all the political rubbish we have to put up with on TV
at the moment. :) /ducks for cover.
What did they do, take an article written 12 years ago and hash it up with
Windows 7.
You have to laugh at  Macs only come in white or silver. PCs are available
in a full spectrum of colors across a range of price points..
Can anyone say iMac G3 when all you could (mostly) buy a PC in was any
colour you wanted,...as long as it was beige.
/sigh
How that dribble gets to stay on the interwebs is beyond me,..
Let's sue for false advertising!  ;o))
OK, off my soap box and back to reality,...

Enjoy.

Kind Regards
Daniel

-- Edit
Ok, I wasn't going to do it, but I have to,...
 Windows 7 was designed to make it simpler to do the tasks you do every day
(like crash more... and get more virii...), with features that the Mac
doesn't have. For example, the new Snap feature makes it easy to view two
documents side by side. (OMG, you can read two documents side by side!! Oh
no, I can't do that on a Mac!!! Oh wait,..nvm...)

;o)
Now where did I leave my Apple fan boy t-shirt.
/end Edit.



On 10/8/10 4:53 PM, Mark Secker m...@biz.uwa.edu.au wrote:

 
 It's... Quite sad really... Half tragic half comic.
 
 Add to that that no matter what you want to say about Apple marketing,
 Microsoft has never learnt what slick means.
 
 
 On 10/08/10 4:31 PM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 In case you haven't seen it, have a look at
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/pc-vs-mac.aspx
 
 It's a feeble attempt to start up the platform wars, it seems.
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 
 
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 This may be off our usual topic but?
 
 At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our
 DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV,
 however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs.
 Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal
 lounge situation?
 tom samson
 

Hi Tom

Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else.

But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about
15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup.

I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well.
(And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless
keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.)

Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,...
Kind Regards
Daniel

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Hi Rod

Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's
MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients.

Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system.
With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV
signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get Analog and Digital
signals, and some even allow analogue from other devices (eg VCR or older
style movie cameras).
With eyeTV you can watch live TV, do Time Shifting which pauses live TV
until you come back and carry on from where you left of, or you can set it
up to record TV (and even have it repeat recording). These recordings are
saved to Hard Drive, where you can then watch them later and very easily
edit (with the eyeTV software) and burn it to disk (DVD) with Toast. Or
delete it once you don't need it.
They are very small and excellent units (and many on the list can contest
to).

The great thing with the MacMini is it's small, low power and very
convenient.
Once you consider it also has wireless, then you've got full access to the
internet (For a tv guide or some quick browsing). With iTunes
streaming/sharing you've got access to File Sharing out of iTunes, so you
can access all your music as well and listen to it via TV/Stereo (depending
on how you have it all setup).
Also with other programs like VLC, Real Player, iView (ABC etc) and other
streaming internet sites you then get access to a lot more content (which
you may have or own already), as well all so much other info that is out
there. (YouTube etc).
Run out of room or want to store more?? No problem. Plug in a Firewire Hard
Drive and you've got access to a whole lot more storage at fairly reasonable
pricing.
Of course the MacMini also has DVD, so you can also watch your DVD's as
well. (And VLC will handle DVD's that aren't Region Code4)

So all in one you've then got your TV, DVD player, Internet Access, Music
Access/storage. 

Oh, and I forgot iPhoto has picture sharing as wellso you can then
access all your computers is the house and share photos as well. All
displayed on your nice big LCD or Plasma TV. (Or 3D TV??) :o)

I can't say I've ever tried to play games on them,..but hey, if you're that
way inclined you can do that as well I'm sure. (Sim3 on TV) :)

Hopefully that gives you an idea of how the set up works. Of course, as it's
just a standard computer, you can use it do all that and anything else
you'd normally do as well.

All it requires (especially with these new ones), is the MacMini and an HDMI
cable (if your TV has HDMI). Add on a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse
(and Apple remote if you want) and you can sit on the couch and still use
all the features.
Blow up the resolution and have large icons. Set the Dock to only the major
applications you want to use (and large dock size). Set up a couple of
others things for ease of use,...and you're in business.
It's actually a great little entertainment unit.

As mentioned I've set quite a few of these up for many clients. I just
sourced the hardware for them, and had it set up reasonably quickly. A quick
demo of all the features and away you go.

I have one client that has the MacMini set up with a small LCD screen (about
24 I think) and it sits on a wheelie table. They can just wheel it from
room to room for ever want to use it. It's then their Spare entertainment
centre. People stay over,..wheel it to the spare room and the quests have
their own TV, DVD player and internet access to use. :o)
Quite cool really.

I had the same set up here until recently. (Only cause I needed to offload
the MacMini for another project). But with the new MacMini, I'll be ordering
a new one soon(ish) and set it up 

Does a new user account access all Macintosh HD conten t ?

2010-08-10 Thread Steven Knowles

I'm a tad confused.

I park all manner of folders on Macintosh HD, ie. folders alongside the 
standard Applications folder, Systems folder, and so on. It's a filing system 
I've always used, never had need to do anything different.

If I create a new Account on my Mac, for a 3rd party user, I've always thought 
that the new user would not have access to any of those folders on my 
Macintosh HD, other than folders which they must have access to, eg. 
Applications. But not folders which I've created and added files to whilst 
logged in as myself.

I've just discovered this doesn't seem to be the case. Are all files and 
folders directly within the Macintosh HD folder public property as far as local 
users go? Or do I have a Mac behaving badly? If my Mac is supposed to behave 
this way, then I guess it's a little embarrassing realising this after 16 years 
of using Macs. Better now than never I suppose.

I'm guessing that I'm going to get told that if I want a multi user machine, I 
should be filing my own not for everybody stuff somewhere within my Home 
folder, but thought I'd best check with the experts before I start reorganising 
my whole filing cabinet.

Cheers, Steven




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RE: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very versatile.
I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment units
and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs. But
to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and other
file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to some of
my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.

Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?

How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv
dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?

I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
(with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this and
more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
more $$'s.

Your comments appreciated.

Regards

Peter.
-Original Message-
From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Daniel Kerr
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:16 PM
To: WAMUG
Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording


On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 This may be off our usual topic but?
 
 At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant.
But our
 DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and
recordTV,
 however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region
DVDs.
 Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a
normal
 lounge situation?
 tom samson
 

Hi Tom

Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else.

But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about
15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup.

I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well.
(And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a
wireless
keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.)

Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,...
Kind Regards
Daniel

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Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800
To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in
Australia
Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in
Australia


Hi Rod

Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's
MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients.

Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system.
With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV
signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get Analog and Digital
signals, and some even allow analogue from other devices (eg VCR or
older
style movie cameras).
With eyeTV you can watch live TV, do Time Shifting which pauses live
TV
until you come back and carry on from where you left of, or you can set
it
up to record TV (and even have it repeat recording). These recordings
are
saved to Hard Drive, where you can then watch them later and very easily
edit (with the eyeTV software) and burn it to disk (DVD) with Toast. Or
delete it once you don't need it.
They are very small and excellent units (and many on the list can
contest
to).

The great thing with the MacMini is it's small, low power and very
convenient.
Once you consider it also has wireless, then you've got full access to
the
internet (For a tv guide or some quick browsing). With iTunes
streaming/sharing you've got access to File Sharing out of iTunes, so
you
can access all your music as well and listen to it via TV/Stereo
(depending
on how you have it all setup).
Also with other programs like VLC, Real Player, iView (ABC etc) and
other
streaming internet sites you then get access to a lot more content
(which
you may have or own already), as well all so much other info that is out
there. (YouTube etc).
Run out of room or want to store more?? No problem. Plug in a Firewire
Hard
Drive and you've got access to a whole lot more storage at fairly
reasonable
pricing.
Of course the MacMini also has DVD, so you can also watch your DVD's as
well. (And VLC will handle DVD's that aren't Region Code4)

So all in one you've then got your TV, DVD player, Internet Access,
Music
Access/storage. 

Oh, and I forgot iPhoto has picture sharing as wellso you can then
access all your computers is the house and share photos as well. All
displayed on your nice big LCD or Plasma TV. (Or 3D TV??) :o)

I can't say I've ever tried to play games on them,..but hey, if 

Re: Used Macbook

2010-08-10 Thread John Thompson

Hi Pat,
If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not 
consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These units vary in cost 
from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well.  It would 
replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other 
location.
I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a 
computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when 
caravanning.

Regards

John Thompson 
On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:

 
 Hi, Daniel,
 
 I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of our old, dying, 
 VCR.  There aren't many around these days, so I was hoping to jump to a 
 saving-to-disk solution.  
 
 We have a large CRT tv (3 years old) plus a set top box to receive digital.  
 I have been considering getting an Elgato Video Capture Cable but we will 
 still need either a Mac Mini or a laptop (or a keyboard) plus other bits as 
 an interface. We are not quite ready to buy a digital tv, and we only want to 
 record and replay tv programs.
 
 My main question to you is, do you have a used laptop with the right specs 
 for sale?
   Intel Core Duo processor
   512MB of RAM
   Built-in USB 2.0 port
   Mac OS X v10.5.6 Leopard or later
   QuickTime v7.6 or later
   iTunes v8.1 or later
 
 Any info or advice will be gratefully received.
 Pat Scott   (WAMUG member 980)
 
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Re: Does a new user account access all Macintosh HD content ?

2010-08-10 Thread Rob Findlay


On 11/08/2010, at 6:11 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 'm guessing that I'm going to get told that if I want a multi user machine, I 
 should be filing my own not for everybody stuff somewhere within my Home 
 folder, but thought I'd best check with the experts before I start 
 reorganising my whole filing cabinet.


You got it.  User level documents should be kept below the User level not at 
the root level of the drive which should be reserved for System created 
folders. Anything that needs to be shared should be kept in the shared folder 
under Users.
This didn't matter in pre OS X systems and many Mac users happily kept their 
stuff there.


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Re: Does a new user account access all Macintosh HD content ?

2010-08-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 11/08/2010, at 6:11 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 
 I'm a tad confused.
 
 I park all manner of folders on Macintosh HD, ie. folders alongside the 
 standard Applications folder, Systems folder, and so on. It's a filing system 
 I've always used, never had need to do anything different.
 
 If I create a new Account on my Mac, for a 3rd party user, I've always 
 thought that the new user would not have access to any of those folders on 
 my Macintosh HD, other than folders which they must have access to, eg. 
 Applications. But not folders which I've created and added files to whilst 
 logged in as myself.
 
 I've just discovered this doesn't seem to be the case. Are all files and 
 folders directly within the Macintosh HD folder public property as far as 
 local users go? Or do I have a Mac behaving badly? If my Mac is supposed to 
 behave this way, then I guess it's a little embarrassing realising this after 
 16 years of using Macs. Better now than never I suppose.

Click one one of these folders and have a look at the permissions rules in the 
Get Info window. You'll find that while generally ownership of the folders will 
be assigned to System with read and write permissions, everyone else will 
have at least read permissions, which means everyone else has access to the 
folders: they just can't change their contents. Bear in mind that all this 
changed with the introduction of Mac OS X. Prior to that, Mac OS didn't really 
care where anything was, since it was a single-user system, ie you could not 
add different user accounts. In Mac OS X, everything that you want to belong to 
you must be kept inside your own account folder, ie, home.

 
 I'm guessing that I'm going to get told that if I want a multi user machine, 
 I should be filing my own not for everybody stuff somewhere within my Home 
 folder, but thought I'd best check with the experts before I start 
 reorganising my whole filing cabinet.

All you need to do is to move all your private stuff into your Documents 
folder. No one can get to them then.


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Ray Forma


Peter,

My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that  
burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current  
Macminis can't either.


My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and  
one for the EyeTV stick.


A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast  
setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant  
on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should  
give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs  
screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very  
accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running  
the same p[program in your local TV retailer.


Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing  
work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV.


Would never dream of using AppleTV instead.

On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote:



Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very  
versatile.
I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment  
units

and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs.  
But
to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and  
other

file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to  
some of

my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.

Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?

How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv
dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?

I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
(with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this  
and

more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
more $$'s.

Your comments appreciated.

Regards

Peter.


Regards,

Ray Forma
Tel  Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568
Mob +61 (0) 428 596938



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Re: Used Macbook

2010-08-10 Thread Ray Forma


John,

with a DV recorder you:

1 Can't edit recorder material

2 Can't burn to DVD any worthwhile programs

3 Can't colour calibrate your system for much better picture quality

4 Can't switch on a live commercial program, do something useful for  
30 to 45 minutes, then come and rewind to the start and start  
watching. Fast-forward over all of the ads. See the program and have  
a bonus of less frustration and 30 to 45 minutes of useful time to do  
other things.


5 Can't use the Mac for other computing tasks while watching TV, or  
at other times.


On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 , John Thompson wrote:



Hi Pat,
	If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why  
not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These  
units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work  
exceptionally well.  It would replace your existing set top box  
which could be utilised in some other location.
	I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than  
using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only  
use for tv when caravanning.


Regards

John Thompson
On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:



Regards,

Ray Forma
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RE: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site
and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I
think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken
care of there. 

It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in
simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and
more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV
can't do? 

Thanks

Peter...
-Original Message-
From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ray Forma
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording


Peter,

My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that  
burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current  
Macminis can't either.

My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and  
one for the EyeTV stick.

A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast  
setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant  
on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should  
give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs  
screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very  
accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running  
the same p[program in your local TV retailer.

Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing  
work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV.

Would never dream of using AppleTV instead.

On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote:


 Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very  
 versatile.
 I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment  
 units
 and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
 tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs.  
 But
 to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and  
 other
 file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
 into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to  
 some of
 my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
 functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.

 Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
 have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?

 How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv
 dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
 required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?

 I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
 (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
 mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this  
 and
 more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
 more $$'s.

 Your comments appreciated.

 Regards

 Peter.

Regards,

Ray Forma
Tel  Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568
Mob +61 (0) 428 596938



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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Justin Davies

Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old 
g4 powerbook (IBM chip)?
Best regards



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On 11 Aug 2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

 
 Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site
 and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I
 think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken
 care of there. 
 
 It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in
 simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and
 more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV
 can't do? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter...
 -Original Message-
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
 Behalf Of Ray Forma
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording
 
 
 Peter,
 
 My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that  
 burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current  
 Macminis can't either.
 
 My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and  
 one for the EyeTV stick.
 
 A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast  
 setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant  
 on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should  
 give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs  
 screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very  
 accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running  
 the same p[program in your local TV retailer.
 
 Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing  
 work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV.
 
 Would never dream of using AppleTV instead.
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very  
 versatile.
 I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment  
 units
 and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
 tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs.  
 But
 to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and  
 other
 file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
 into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to  
 some of
 my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
 functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.
 
 Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
 have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?
 
 How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv
 dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
 required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?
 
 I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
 (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
 mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this  
 and
 more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
 more $$'s.
 
 Your comments appreciated.
 
 Regards
 
 Peter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ray Forma
 Tel  Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568
 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938
 
 
 
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread David Noel

Hi All --

-- I've been thinking of setting up a new home audio system, and would
welcome suggestions of how to do this. I had in mind something like a
Mac Mini (hence why I've latched on to this thread), with inputs (as
needed) from a CD player, radio tuner, tape recorder, 78/45/33
turntable etc, maybe also playlists on a HD.

-- For output, I was wondering if it would be feasible to have
wireless-linked (but mains-powered) speakers, at a reasonable cost.
With such a setup, it should be possible to choose any audio source
and have playback from portable speakers anywhere in the house or
garden.

-- Would a Mac Mini (or laptop) centre be overkill in this situation,
could I do just as well with a system of switches? Any ideas
appreciated.

Cheers --

David Noel
2010 Aug 11

===

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 This may be off our usual topic but?

 At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our
 DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV,
 however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs.
 Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal
 lounge situation?
 tom samson


 Hi Tom

 Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else.

 But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about
 15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup.

 I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well.
 (And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless
 keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.)

 Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,...
 Kind Regards
 Daniel

 -- Forwarded Message
 From: Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in
 Australia
 Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in
 Australia


 Hi Rod

 Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's
 MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients.

 Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system.
 With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV
 signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get Analog and Digital
 signals, and some even allow analogue from other devices (eg VCR or older
 style movie cameras).
 With eyeTV you can watch live TV, do Time Shifting which pauses live TV
 until you come back and carry on from where you left of, or you can set it
 up to record TV (and even have it repeat recording). These recordings are
 saved to Hard Drive, where you can then watch them later and very easily
 edit (with the eyeTV software) and burn it to disk (DVD) with Toast. Or
 delete it once you don't need it.
 They are very small and excellent units (and many on the list can contest
 to).

 The great thing with the MacMini is it's small, low power and very
 convenient.
 Once you consider it also has wireless, then you've got full access to the
 internet (For a tv guide or some quick browsing). With iTunes
 streaming/sharing you've got access to File Sharing out of iTunes, so you
 can access all your music as well and listen to it via TV/Stereo (depending
 on how you have it all setup).
 Also with other programs like VLC, Real Player, iView (ABC etc) and other
 streaming internet sites you then get access to a lot more content (which
 you may have or own already), as well all so much other info that is out
 there. (YouTube etc).
 Run out of room or want to store more?? No problem. Plug in a Firewire Hard
 Drive and you've got access to a whole lot more storage at fairly reasonable
 pricing.
 Of course the MacMini also has DVD, so you can also watch your DVD's as
 well. (And VLC will handle DVD's that aren't Region Code4)

 So all in one you've then got your TV, DVD player, Internet Access, Music
 Access/storage.

 Oh, and I forgot iPhoto has picture sharing as wellso you can then
 access all your computers is the house and share photos as well. All
 displayed on your nice big LCD or Plasma TV. (Or 3D TV??) :o)

 I can't say I've ever tried to play games on them,..but hey, if you're that
 way inclined you can do that as well I'm sure. (Sim3 on TV) :)

 Hopefully that gives you an idea of how the set up works. Of course, as it's
 just a standard computer, you can use it do all that and anything else
 you'd normally do as well.

 All it requires (especially with these new ones), is the MacMini and an HDMI
 cable (if your TV has HDMI). Add on a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse
 (and Apple remote if you want) and you can sit on the couch and still use
 all the features.
 Blow up the resolution and have large icons. Set the Dock to only the major
 

Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Susan Hastings

Hi Peter, you have access to online TV channels, such as ABCs iView, so don't 
need to do as much recording of TV programs. I think other channels have this 
sort of thing as well.

If you want to record to DVDs, having the MacMini attached makes it pretty 
seamless as EyeTV and Toast play well together.

You have access to other computer functions on your TV.

You can link to all of the media which is on your other computers in the house 
through filesharing and iTunes sharing.

Using a mouse and keyboard with the MacMini makes some tasks easier in 
accessing media.

I have both an AppleTV and the MacMini, but now that I have the new MacMini, 
would not bother to buy the AppleTV as the functions overlap.

cheers, Susan.
On 11/08/2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

 
 Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site
 and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I
 think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken
 care of there. 
 
 It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in
 simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and
 more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV
 can't do? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter...
 -Original Message-
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
 Behalf Of Ray Forma
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording
 
 
 Peter,
 
 My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that  
 burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current  
 Macminis can't either.
 
 My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and  
 one for the EyeTV stick.
 
 A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast  
 setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant  
 on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should  
 give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs  
 screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very  
 accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running  
 the same p[program in your local TV retailer.
 
 Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing  
 work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV.
 
 Would never dream of using AppleTV instead.
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very  
 versatile.
 I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment  
 units
 and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
 tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs.  
 But
 to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and  
 other
 file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
 into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to  
 some of
 my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
 functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.
 
 Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
 have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?
 
 How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv
 dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
 required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?
 
 I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
 (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
 mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this  
 and
 more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
 more $$'s.
 
 Your comments appreciated.
 
 Regards
 
 Peter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ray Forma
 Tel  Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568
 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938
 
 
 
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RE: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

Ok, thanks Susan, I can now see the differences. Now just have to
convince myself that $999 is worth it over the $399 for the Apple TV.
Not a huge sum difference and I think it will be more future proof as
well going the Macmini route.

Many thanks Susan and others for input on this topic.

Regards

Peter...
-Original Message-
From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Susan Hastings
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 10:29 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording


Hi Peter, you have access to online TV channels, such as ABCs iView, so
don't need to do as much recording of TV programs. I think other
channels have this sort of thing as well.

If you want to record to DVDs, having the MacMini attached makes it
pretty seamless as EyeTV and Toast play well together.

You have access to other computer functions on your TV.

You can link to all of the media which is on your other computers in the
house through filesharing and iTunes sharing.

Using a mouse and keyboard with the MacMini makes some tasks easier in
accessing media.

I have both an AppleTV and the MacMini, but now that I have the new
MacMini, would not bother to buy the AppleTV as the functions overlap.

cheers, Susan.
On 11/08/2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

 
 Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple
site
 and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty
I
 think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken
 care of there. 
 
 It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in
 simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini -
and
 more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV
 can't do? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter...
 -Original Message-
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
 Behalf Of Ray Forma
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording
 
 
 Peter,
 
 My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that  
 burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current  
 Macminis can't either.
 
 My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and

 one for the EyeTV stick.
 
 A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast  
 setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant  
 on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should  
 give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs  
 screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very

 accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running  
 the same p[program in your local TV retailer.
 
 Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing

 work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV.
 
 Would never dream of using AppleTV instead.
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very  
 versatile.
 I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment  
 units
 and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
 tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs.  
 But
 to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and  
 other
 file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
 into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to  
 some of
 my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
 functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.
 
 Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
 have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?
 
 How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the
eyetv
 dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
 required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?
 
 I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
 (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
 mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this  
 and
 more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
 more $$'s.
 
 Your comments appreciated.
 
 Regards
 
 Peter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ray Forma
 Tel  Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568
 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938
 
 
 
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Overview EyeTV Netstream DTT

2010-08-10 Thread Pedro
Morning all

I too have been watching the whole eyetv discussion with interest.
One option is to stream the tv signal to any mac in the house via the following 
device. Are these available in Oz Daniel and does anyone have any info on how 
good/easy they are to use.



cheers

Pedro

http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/tuner/netstreamdtt/product1.en.html






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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread James / Hans Kunz
i'm using a powerbook g4/1.33ghz 2gig ram  320gig hd, have final cut  
studio2 installed  doing edits for ch44 shows
powerbooks do not have ibm chips.it would be an intel  that came  
up with the macbook series..

then just someting re tv recording
under the brand name strong str5425 you can get a recorder/ hd  
received-setop box for below $120.- but w/o hd in it
the unit has a usb port for connecting a external hd up to 1tb (you  
can record 1ch  watch another channel) records in mp4 format, you can  
removed the hd  use a computer to view  edit

James

On 11/08/2010, at 10:06, Justin Davies wrote:



Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible  
with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)?

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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi David,

I believe the mac mini (or other mac) only has one audio input (unless you
buy specialist add-on audio gear) also a 78/45/33 turntable will need an
equalising pre-amp (unless you get one of the new usb ones - not sure if
they do 78!) - so you are not going to be able to just plug all that gear
directly into the mac.

I would have thought the best way to integrate this stuff with a mac system
is to first have an audio system that combines all the audio sources - a
central amp or receiver that all the other gear connects to - then I would
connect the tape monitor output from the audio system to your computer input
- that way you choose the audio source for the computer at the main amp.

The sound output of the mac then needs to be directed to your actual playing
amp/speakers - either directly or wirelessly via airtunes.


First-off though, you really need to think why you want to include the mac
in the loop - typically that would be to record/convert your analogue audio
(radio/tape/turntable) to digital - or to rip your CDs to AAC or mp3 (since
you say home audio, I'm leaving TV out of the picture). Once you have your
music on the computer then, as you say, you can set-up various playlists.
You also get the ability to stream audio wirelessly to, say, an airport
express - though if that's all you want to do there are also other solutions
you could look at.


I would say that the first thing to do is work out exactly what you need to
do:

-   Decide which of your music you want to have accessible on/through the
computer (eg do you expect to just listen to the radio live - or do you also
want to record that - etc)

-   List all your listening spaces and decide what sort of speakers you want
and what sort of amp you need to drive them.

-   List all your music sources and where, physically you want to have/use
them.

-   Decide where you want your computer to live.

Then look at the practicalities of running wiring (audio/speakers) between
rooms vs wirelessly streaming (many people find they use a combination -
direct wiring for short runs, wireless where wiring would be problematic)

Once you are clear exactly what you are trying to achieve, it will be easier
to look at the alternative approaches/systems/components.


Just my 2c worth.


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




on 11/8/10 10:24 AM, David Noel at lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi All --
 
 -- I've been thinking of setting up a new home audio system, and would
 welcome suggestions of how to do this. I had in mind something like a
 Mac Mini (hence why I've latched on to this thread), with inputs (as
 needed) from a CD player, radio tuner, tape recorder, 78/45/33
 turntable etc, maybe also playlists on a HD.
 
 -- For output, I was wondering if it would be feasible to have
 wireless-linked (but mains-powered) speakers, at a reasonable cost.
 With such a setup, it should be possible to choose any audio source
 and have playback from portable speakers anywhere in the house or
 garden.
 
 -- Would a Mac Mini (or laptop) centre be overkill in this situation,
 could I do just as well with a system of switches? Any ideas
 appreciated.
 
 Cheers --
 
 David Noel
 2010 Aug 11
 
 ===
 
 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au
 wrote:
 
 On 10/8/10 10:05 PM, thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 This may be off our usual topic but?
 
 At home I have my mac set up with elgato eyeTV and it is brilliant. But our
 DVD player in the lounge is getting old. We use it to play DVD and recordTV,
 however it does not record HDTV and it sometimes fails on other region DVDs.
 Has anyone brought or have an idea about playing and recording in a normal
 lounge situation?
 tom samson
 
 
 Hi Tom
 
 Not sure if you're referring to a similar Mac set up, or something else.
 
 But this was a post I sent through to a query Rod asked back about
 15/06/2010 covering using a Macmini for a TV/DVD/recording setup.
 
 I just set one up for a client last Friday also and they work very well.
 (And the new Macmini's are fantastic! Especially when set with a wireless
 keyboard and new Magic Trackpad.)
 
 Here is a copy of the post, so hope it's sort of what you mean,...
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 -- Forwarded Message
 From: Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:05:52 +0800
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Conversation: apple store is down internationally as well as here in
 Australia
 Subject: Re: apple store is down internationally as well as here in
 Australia
 
 
 Hi Rod
 
 Not that I pertain to be an expert on it all, but I did set up Ronni's
 MacMini and TV, and have done the same for many clients.
 
 Basically, the MacMini becomes the sort of do everything system.
 With the eyeTV range which runs off USB you can then bring in your TV
 signal. Depending on the eyeTV you choose you can get 

Re: Overview EyeTV Netstream DTT

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Pedro

Sorry, not my long normal answer today, as am paying the price today of
burning the candle at both ends and working too long hours the last couple
of weeks. (And today got the better of me to remind me,..lol).

But in answer to your question.
Yes the Netstream is available in Australia. It retails for $399.
More info on it here:-
http://www.simms.com.au/ProductDetails.aspx?ItemCode=1NS106001000vendid=12
572catid=153ValueRam=0
And here:-
http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/tuner/netstreamdtt/produ
ct1.en.html

You're sort of right, in that you can stream it to any Mac in the house.
However, it's just really a unit with two tuners, so can only be watching it
(or recording) on two machines. A third machine would have to wait.

You can also do it wirelessly to the computers. However, this was a caveat
as I saw it. The unit has an ethernet port on it, Therefore your TV areial
and modem/router all have to be in the same spot, so the Netstream can plug
into the Ethernet port on the router and then into the aerial.
Sure, there would be ways around it by adding other devices to do it if all
the gear wasn't in the same place, but then you're adding more cost to it.

I can see it being a fairly good unit, if the conditions are right. :o)

Hope that helps a little.
Kind Regards
Daniel


On 11/8/10 10:59 AM, Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Morning all
 
 I too have been watching the whole eyetv discussion with interest.
 One option is to stream the tv signal to any mac in the house via the
 following device. Are these available in Oz Daniel and does anyone have any
 info on how good/easy they are to use.
 
 
 
 cheers
 
 Pedro
 
 http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/tuner/netstreamdtt/product1
 .en.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi James

Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were PowerPC
units. 
It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all the chips
were then Intel chips.
The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5)
The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all PPC
(IBM)

They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core chip) and
the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro.

Just wanted to clarify ;)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 i'm using a powerbook g4/1.33ghz 2gig ram  320gig hd, have final cut
 studio2 installed  doing edits for ch44 shows
 powerbooks do not have ibm chips.it would be an intel  that came
 up with the macbook series..
 then just someting re tv recording
 under the brand name strong str5425 you can get a recorder/ hd
 received-setop box for below $120.- but w/o hd in it
 the unit has a usb port for connecting a external hd up to 1tb (you
 can record 1ch  watch another channel) records in mp4 format, you can
 removed the hd  use a computer to view  edit
 James
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 10:06, Justin Davies wrote:
 
 
 Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible
 with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)?
 Best regards
 
 
 
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 9309 9309
 
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Justin

The only problem(s) you may have, and depending on your model of
PowerBook, is the limitation of a) the USB ports b) the Storage space to
buffer information c) the speed of your laptop and d) the version of
software.
To break it down a bit more,..
A) You require USB2 to run most of the plug in TV devices (eg EyeTV). The
PowerBook G4 12-inch DVI was the first model to get USB2. Before that it was
USB1 only and all the models after that were USB2
B) If the hard drive is quite small, then it will run out of room quickly if
you want to record or bufffer TV.
C) The speed of the machine can limit the info coming from the software etc
D) The OS version can limit what sofware will be able to be installed. As a
lot of the new software requires Intel machines these days.

But yes, it may still be do-able. :)

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 11/8/10 10:06 AM, Justin Davies m...@justindavies.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi guys, been watching this with interest - is this idea feasible with an old
 g4 powerbook (IBM chip)?
 Best regards
 
 
 
 Justin Davies
 m...@justindavies.com.au
 www.justindavies.com.au
 0414 567 638
 9309 9309
 
 Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/justinkdavies
 Business website: www.emergination.com.au
 Twitter: www.twitter.com/justinkdavies
 
 
 
 On 11 Aug 2010, at 9:45 AM, Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 Ok, thanks for that Ray. In the mean time I had a look at the Apple site
 and noted on the current Macmini it has 4 USB ports - which is plenty I
 think, and also an onboard Superdrive - so burning of discs is taken
 care of there. 
 
 It is probably obvious to most out there, but can someone give me in
 simple terms - the differences between the Apple TV and a Macmini - and
 more importantly - what more will the Macmini enable that the Apple TV
 can't do? 
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter...
 -Original Message-
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
 Behalf Of Ray Forma
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 9:27 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording
 
 
 Peter,
 
 My 4yo Macmini, running EyeTV and Toast, has an internal burner that
 burns up to double-layer DVDs. Can't do Blueray, but the current
 Macminis can't either.
 
 My old Macmini has 4 USB ports. I use one for the keyboard/mouse, and
 one for the EyeTV stick.
 
 A slightly expensive, but very useful extra to an EyeTV, Mac, Toast
 setup is a screen colour calibrator. Makes colours much more vibrant
 on my system, which uses a 24 Samsung monitor as the screen. Should
 give even better results on a HDMI-driven TV screen because TVs
 screen makers tend not to worry too much about rendering colours very
 accurately. Just compare the pictures on the various screens running
 the same p[program in your local TV retailer.
 
 Has anyone mentioned that you can use your TV-Mac for other computing
 work while watching TV (with screen clutter) or when not watching TV.
 
 Would never dream of using AppleTV instead.
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 7:17 , Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 Hi Daniel, this use of the Macmini sounds fantastic and very
 versatile.
 I am some time in the near future to set up my home entertainment
 units
 and have a simple Panasonic HD recorder currently (with twin digital
 tuners on board) so it is fine for my current 'couch potato' needs.
 But
 to incorporate itunes, iphoto, internet capability, avi file (and
 other
 file types) DVD playback and perhaps others by piggybacking a macmini
 into the mix, sounds like something that will give me access to
 some of
 my media which is slightly inaccessible currently and some further
 functionality that I have never experienced on the home TV platform.
 
 Below you note about burning off to DVD using Toast. Does the macmini
 have a burner on board or is it an external attachment?
 
 How many USB ports does the macmini have? Can it accommodate the eyetv
 dongle as well as an external drive/burner attached if that is what's
 required? Can it function with a hub if I need multiple USB ports?
 
 I had anticipated up till now an Apple TV would give me what I want
 (with the atv hack of course and maybe an attached external drive for
 mega capacity) but maybe the Macmini approach will give me all this
 and
 more than the Apple TV will give for around the same or even a little
 more $$'s.
 
 Your comments appreciated.
 
 Regards
 
 Peter.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ray Forma
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 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938
 
 
 
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12V MacBook Pro adaptors

2010-08-10 Thread Shay Telfer

Hi...

Before I shell out for international shipping, I was wondering if anyone
has similar items to these in stock?

http://www.hypershop.com/HyperMac-Pure-DC-Car-Charger-for-MacBook-p/mbp-car.htm
http://mikegyver.com/Store/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/ADPTMSC85/

The Apple store tells me my 10A power socket at 12V (120W) can't supply
the 85W and as such they don't have anything on the shelf :)

Have fun,
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread James / Hans Kunz

thanks for the remark, i keep it in mind
my thought was ppc processors are motorola units based on earlier  
systems.but it's not the case

thanks anyway  James

On 11/08/2010, at 11:54, Daniel Kerr wrote:



Hi James

Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were  
PowerPC

units.
It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all  
the chips

were then Intel chips.
The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5)
The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all  
PPC

(IBM)

They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core  
chip) and

the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro.

Just wanted to clarify ;)

Kind Regards
Daniel


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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi James

I could stand corrected, but I think the early PPC 680x0 chips were
Motorola, then they went to IBM. (eg 68030, 68040)
(Fuzzy brain day today)

So it was things like the LCII, LCIII, 7200, 7500 etc,..were Motorola then
once it went G3 etc, that was IBM. Then after that to Intel.

Hope that helps a little. ;)

Kind Regards
Daniel

On 11/8/10 12:08 PM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 thanks for the remark, i keep it in mind
 my thought was ppc processors are motorola units based on earlier
 systems.but it's not the case
 thanks anyway  James
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 11:54, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Hi James
 
 Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were
 PowerPC
 units.
 It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all
 the chips
 were then Intel chips.
 The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5)
 The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all
 PPC
 (IBM)
 
 They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core
 chip) and
 the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro.
 
 Just wanted to clarify ;)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Daniel Kerr

Just to combine a few answers,...

Peter -
Yes, as others have mentioned and you saw on the site, it does have the
burner installed. The Toast software is additional that you have to buy, but
some versions of the Elgato untis come with a lite version of Toast. Makes
burning content a lot easier. And generally Toast is a great piece of
software.
Ports - plenty of usb and Firewire ports, And all the others. You generally
want a wireless keyboard and mouse to access it, rather then having to
access it from sitting right in front of it with a wired keyboard and mouse.
Or if you don't want to do it that way, you can use the Screen Sharing
feature that the Mac has, so you can access it from another computer.
Good and bad points to both.
Cost - Obviously is a bit more expensive then an AppleTV, but as others have
mentioned you can do a whole lot more. And it double as a whole other
computer if you need another one.

It's sort of one of those things, that once it's there you can see (and
appreciate) how much more you can do with it. Sure, it's a bit of a learning
curve, and it may not do everything but what it does do, it does well.
(And add in an Apple remote and some of the features you can control from
the little piece of technology.).

David -
As Neil mentioned you'd set the Macmini into the Amp and use it as another
device there - eg CD, Radio, Turntable, AUX (MacMini) or something similar.
So the amp would handle the content on the Macmini, but others would be the
same as before.
IF you wanted the Macmini to control all your content (music, tv shows,
watch DVD's etc) then yes it may be an option. But if it was mostly just to
control music, then it may not be the best method. I'm sure others more in
an audio field may have ideas also.
(Plus brain has decided to slow down again,..lol).


Hope that all helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel
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EyeTV vs set-top box (was Re: Used Macbook)

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Hill

I've had several HDD digital TV set-top boxes in past years but I've found an 
EyeTV-equipped Mac connected to a big screen to be far superior even for simple 
recording schedules, let alone all the other features (Note that AppleTV won't 
do any off-air TV recording so none of this is possible with that box).  Here's 
just a few reasons:

- SmartGuides in EyeTV for example are far superior to time and date scheduling 
as you just type in a keyword like David Attenborough or science fiction or 
sbs news and it will automatically record every documentary or movie that has 
that name in either the title or the paragraph description or type that 
accompanies every show in the Electronic Program Guide.  Priceless, 
particularly when broadcasters move shows around or cancel or start them back 
up with little notice.  I must have 30 or more smart guides for all sorts of 
shows and categories on my TV iMac.  Smart Guides also allow you to enter 
complex criteria to weed out duplicates on HD channels etc if you want to get 
fancy.  Smartguides can also be set to only keep a set number of a particular 
show, so we always have the last two days worth of the Ten, ABC, SBS and Nine 
evening news sitting on our Mac ready to watch if we so wish.

- Exporting to iPod format means I have been able to build up a large library 
of movies, docos, Playschool (yes we have a toddler) and other recordings on a 
separate hard drive array that take up far less room than the huge MPEG-2 files 
that come down straight from the broadcaster and which fill the HDDs of set top 
boxes far too quickly.  Of course, these can also easily be synched with your 
iPhone etc since they are already on the Mac - no disc burning or complex file 
transfers needed.

- MUCH friendlier user interface - Using the built-in scheduling interfaces of 
most set-top boxes in my experience can be a very frustrating, cramped, 
limiting experience trying to enter data from a stupidly complex remote 
control.  Instead being able to use a wireless mouse and Apple's excellent 
Bluetooth keyboard is SO much easier, there is no comparison.

- If you need to record more than just one or two channels simultaneously, 
adding extra EyeTV receivers is an exercise in simplicity - plug it in a spare 
USB port, connect the antenna and voila! an extra TV channel.  I've had 4 or 
more EyeTV units running on our lounge room iMac in the past allowing me to 
view and/or record up to that many channels simultaneously, all appearing in 
separate windows on the 50 Plasma.  Picture-in-Picture eat your heart out.  :-)

- Cost.  If you already have a useable Mac, an EyTV DTT USB receiver can be as 
cheap as $120.  Maybe add a nice big external hard disk for your Mac and it is 
still cheaper than a decent set-top box.  If you do need to buy a Mac Mini, the 
extra expense is usually worth it considering all of the computer-based things 
you can then also do on the big Plasma screen. 

Having such a large library of up-to-the minute pre-recorded shows means we 
never watch live TV so we don't sit there wasting our time with ads or shows we 
aren't really interested in.  As a result we actually watch less TV than we 
ever did before because we only watch exactly what is interesting, we are not 
slaves to the TV schedule, we skip all the ads and when a recording finishes, 
we have to make the conscious decision to double-click another recording rather 
than sitting there in a vegetative state watching one bit of TV flotsam flow 
into another.

IMHO of course.   :-)

-Mart


Martin Hill
mailto:mart_h...@mac.com
homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill
Mb: 0401-103-194  hm: (08)9314-5242

On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote:


Hi Pat,
If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not consider a 
single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These units vary in cost from around 
$600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well.  It would replace your 
existing set top box which could be utilised in some other location.
I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a 
computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when 
caravanning.

Regards

John Thompson 
On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:


Hi, Daniel,

I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of our old, dying, VCR. 
 There aren't many around these days, so I was hoping to jump to a 
saving-to-disk solution.  

We have a large CRT tv (3 years old) plus a set top box to receive digital.  I 
have been considering getting an Elgato Video Capture Cable but we will still 
need either a Mac Mini or a laptop (or a keyboard) plus other bits as an 
interface. We are not quite ready to buy a digital tv, and we only want to 
record and replay tv programs.

My main question to you is, do you have a used laptop with the right specs for 
sale?
  Intel Core Duo processor
  512MB of RAM
  Built-in USB 2.0 port
  Mac OS X v10.5.6 

EyeTV vs set-top box

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Hill
I've had several HDD digital TV set-top boxes in past years but I've found an 
EyeTV-equipped Mac connected to a big screen to be far superior even for simple 
recording schedules, let alone all the other features (Note that AppleTV won't 
do any off-air TV recording so none of this is possible with that box).  Here's 
just a few reasons:

- SmartGuides in EyeTV for example are far superior to time and date scheduling 
as you just type in a keyword like David Attenborough or science fiction or 
sbs news and it will automatically record every documentary or movie that has 
that name in either the title or the paragraph description or type that 
accompanies every show in the Electronic Program Guide.  Priceless, 
particularly when broadcasters move shows around or cancel or start them back 
up with little notice.  I must have 30 or more smart guides for all sorts of 
shows and categories on my TV iMac.  Smart Guides also allow you to enter 
complex criteria to weed out duplicates on HD channels etc if you want to get 
fancy.  Smartguides can also be set to only keep a set number of a particular 
show, so we always have the last two days worth of the Ten, ABC, SBS and Nine 
evening news sitting on our Mac ready to watch if we so wish.

- Exporting to iPod format means I have been able to build up a large library 
of movies, docos, Playschool (yes we have a toddler) and other recordings on a 
separate hard drive array that take up far less room than the huge MPEG-2 files 
that come down straight from the broadcaster and which fill the HDDs of set top 
boxes far too quickly.  Of course, these can also easily be synched with your 
iPhone etc since they are already on the Mac - no disc burning or complex file 
transfers needed.

- MUCH friendlier user interface - Using the built-in scheduling interfaces of 
most set-top boxes in my experience can be a very frustrating, cramped, 
limiting experience trying to enter data from a stupidly complex remote 
control.  Instead being able to use a wireless mouse and Apple's excellent 
Bluetooth keyboard is SO much easier, there is no comparison.

- If you need to record more than just one or two channels simultaneously, 
adding extra EyeTV receivers is an exercise in simplicity - plug it in a spare 
USB port, connect the antenna and voila! an extra TV channel.  I've had 4 or 
more EyeTV units running on our lounge room iMac in the past allowing me to 
view and/or record up to that many channels simultaneously, all appearing in 
separate windows on the 50 Plasma.  Picture-in-Picture eat your heart out.  :-)

- Cost.  If you already have a useable Mac, an EyTV DTT USB receiver can be as 
cheap as $120.  Maybe add a nice big external hard disk for your Mac and it is 
still cheaper than a decent set-top box.  If you do need to buy a Mac Mini, the 
extra expense is usually worth it considering all of the computer-based things 
you can then also do on the big Plasma screen. 

Having such a large library of up-to-the minute pre-recorded shows means we 
never watch live TV so we don't sit there wasting our time with ads or shows we 
aren't really interested in.  As a result we actually watch less TV than we 
ever did before because we only watch exactly what is interesting, we are not 
slaves to the TV schedule, we skip all the ads and when a recording finishes, 
we have to make the conscious decision to double-click another recording rather 
than sitting there in a vegetative state watching one bit of TV flotsam flow 
into another.

IMHO of course.   :-)

-Mart


Martin Hill
mailto:mart_h...@mac.com
homepages: http://web.mac.com/mart_hill
Mb: 0401-103-194  hm: (08)9314-5242

On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote:

 
 Hi Pat,
   If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not 
 consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These units vary in cost 
 from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well.  It would 
 replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some other 
 location.
   I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a 
 computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when 
 caravanning.
 
 Regards
 
 John Thompson 
 On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:
 
 
 Hi, Daniel,
 
 I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of our old, dying, 
 VCR.  There aren't many around these days, so I was hoping to jump to a 
 saving-to-disk solution.  
 
 We have a large CRT tv (3 years old) plus a set top box to receive digital.  
 I have been considering getting an Elgato Video Capture Cable but we will 
 still need either a Mac Mini or a laptop (or a keyboard) plus other bits as 
 an interface. We are not quite ready to buy a digital tv, and we only want 
 to record and replay tv programs.
 
 My main question to you is, do you have a used laptop with the right specs 
 for sale?
  Intel Core Duo processor

Re: Used Macbook

2010-08-10 Thread mince and pud


Ray is a bit tough on HD recorders - my modest model does 1, 2 and 4  
quite happily (well, 2 is a bit iffy, but in theory it can).


Granted it can't do 3 or 5 - and it's only analogue, but I can't  
imagine a digital version being unable to do the same - maybe someone  
can correct this.


I know you don't get to fiddle around with macs this way - but it was  
only 200 bucks...


best
alastair


On 11/08/2010, at 2:40 AM, Ray Forma wrote:



John,

with a DV recorder you:

1 Can't edit recorder material

2 Can't burn to DVD any worthwhile programs

3 Can't colour calibrate your system for much better picture quality

4 Can't switch on a live commercial program, do something useful for  
30 to 45 minutes, then come and rewind to the start and start  
watching. Fast-forward over all of the ads. See the program and have  
a bonus of less frustration and 30 to 45 minutes of useful time to  
do other things.


5 Can't use the Mac for other computing tasks while watching TV, or  
at other times.


On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 , John Thompson wrote:



Hi Pat,
	If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why  
not consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These  
units vary in cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work  
exceptionally well.  It would replace your existing set top box  
which could be utilised in some other location.
	I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than  
using a computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only  
use for tv when caravanning.


Regards

John Thompson
On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:



Regards,

Ray Forma
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Roger Kortas

Hi Guys

I have been following this with interest :)

I did have a Apple TV attached to my receiver and it worked very well for 
movies and all my music.

I decided to sell the Apple TV and purchase a 27 iMac!  I already had a eye 
TV, since doing this my receiver and LCD TV have not been turned on at all!

Also there are rumours that Apple will be releasing a different Apple TV which 
may not have internal stowage.

Best regards

Roger

On 11/08/2010, at 11:54 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Hi James
 
 Sorry to correct you, but PowerBooks do have an IBM chip. They were PowerPC
 units. 
 It wasn't until Apple went to iMacs (Intel) and MacBook's that all the chips
 were then Intel chips.
 The G3, G4, G5 were all PPC (IBM) (including iMac's up to G5)
 The PowerBook series until the last PowerBook G4 (1.67GHz) were all PPC
 (IBM)
 
 They then changed over to Intel and had iMac (with an Intel Core chip) and
 the laptops got re-badged as MacBook and MacBook Pro.
 
 Just wanted to clarify ;)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 11/8/10 11:10 AM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 i'm using a powerbook g4/1.33ghz 2gig ram  320gig hd, have final cut
 studio2 installed  doing edits for ch44 shows
 powerbooks do not have ibm chips.it would be an intel  that came
 up with the macbook series..
 then just someting re tv recording
 under the brand name strong str5425 you can get a recorder/ hd
 received-setop box for below $120.- but w/o hd in it
 the unit has a usb port for connecting a external hd up to 1tb (you
 can record 1ch  watch another channel) records in mp4 format, you can
 removed the hd  use a computer to view  edit
 James
 
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 with an old g4 powerbook (IBM chip)?
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Re: Used Macbook

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Hill

(Apologies for my previous multiple postings - my iPhone for some reason 
couldn't send to the wamug list over Optus 3g, but then sent multiple versions 
when I got into a wifi zone.)

I don't think Ray is being too harsh.  I still have a hard disk equipped Strong 
STR5290 and it was frankly crap (please excuse the language but I feel that 
strongly about it).

The user interface sucked, the remote control had too many incomprehensible 
buttons, it lost schedules and recordings, it lost the time, firmware updates 
failed to fix the bugs and the hard disk filled up too rapidly with too large 
MPEG-2 files.

Let me stress that it was far harder to use and far less flexible than EyeTV 
for the simplest tasks.  I've tried other set top boxes as well and some were 
better in some ways, but see my earlier (repeating!) post for the many other 
ways set top boxes I feel are significantly inferior.  

I'd personally avoid that brand and set-top boxes in general if at all possible 
for the same reasons we all buy Macs instead of PCs - elegance, ease of use, 
flexibility and it's a great excuse to get another Mac in the house (if you 
don't have an existing one you can press into service)!  YMMV.  :-)

-Mart


On 11/08/2010, at 12:20 PM, mince and pud wrote:

 
 Ray is a bit tough on HD recorders - my modest model does 1, 2 and 4 quite 
 happily (well, 2 is a bit iffy, but in theory it can).
 
 Granted it can't do 3 or 5 - and it's only analogue, but I can't imagine a 
 digital version being unable to do the same - maybe someone can correct this.
 
 I know you don't get to fiddle around with macs this way - but it was only 
 200 bucks...
 
 best
 alastair
 
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 2:40 AM, Ray Forma wrote:
 
 
 John,
 
 with a DV recorder you:
 
 1 Can't edit recorder material
 
 2 Can't burn to DVD any worthwhile programs
 
 3 Can't colour calibrate your system for much better picture quality
 
 4 Can't switch on a live commercial program, do something useful for 30 to 
 45 minutes, then come and rewind to the start and start watching. 
 Fast-forward over all of the ads. See the program and have a bonus of less 
 frustration and 30 to 45 minutes of useful time to do other things.
 
 5 Can't use the Mac for other computing tasks while watching TV, or at other 
 times.
 
 On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 
 Hi Pat,
 If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not 
 consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These units vary in 
 cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well.  It 
 would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some 
 other location.
 I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a 
 computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when 
 caravanning.
 
 Regards
 
 John Thompson
 On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:
 
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Neil Houghton

Just one more thing...

I just saw this article Hands on: Apple Mac mini on SMH Digital life:

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/hands-
on-apple-mac-mini/20100809-11tl2.html

It has some discussion regarding using the Mac mini as a media centre.

It raises some interesting points - be warned though - it is not necessarily
particularly objective or well written.


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on 11/8/10 12:17 PM, Daniel Kerr at wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 
 Just to combine a few answers,...
 
 Peter -
 Yes, as others have mentioned and you saw on the site, it does have the
 burner installed. The Toast software is additional that you have to buy, but
 some versions of the Elgato untis come with a lite version of Toast. Makes
 burning content a lot easier. And generally Toast is a great piece of
 software.
 Ports - plenty of usb and Firewire ports, And all the others. You generally
 want a wireless keyboard and mouse to access it, rather then having to
 access it from sitting right in front of it with a wired keyboard and mouse.
 Or if you don't want to do it that way, you can use the Screen Sharing
 feature that the Mac has, so you can access it from another computer.
 Good and bad points to both.
 Cost - Obviously is a bit more expensive then an AppleTV, but as others have
 mentioned you can do a whole lot more. And it double as a whole other
 computer if you need another one.
 
 It's sort of one of those things, that once it's there you can see (and
 appreciate) how much more you can do with it. Sure, it's a bit of a learning
 curve, and it may not do everything but what it does do, it does well.
 (And add in an Apple remote and some of the features you can control from
 the little piece of technology.).
 
 David -
 As Neil mentioned you'd set the Macmini into the Amp and use it as another
 device there - eg CD, Radio, Turntable, AUX (MacMini) or something similar.
 So the amp would handle the content on the Macmini, but others would be the
 same as before.
 IF you wanted the Macmini to control all your content (music, tv shows,
 watch DVD's etc) then yes it may be an option. But if it was mostly just to
 control music, then it may not be the best method. I'm sure others more in
 an audio field may have ideas also.
 (Plus brain has decided to slow down again,..lol).
 
 
 Hope that all helps.
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
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RE: EyeTV vs set-top box (was Re: Used Macbook)

2010-08-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

Mart that was 'music' to read. Now I can contemplate an immeasurable
number of simultaneous programs to record. Thanks for opening up my mind
to the simplicity of it.

My better half can't understand why I might ever want to record more
than two (let alone one) program at any one time. With kids/Top
Gear/Attenborough/Dr Who et al, there is the inevitable overlap which
this solution fixes dead - for ever!

Thanks again.

Regards

Peter...
-Original Message-
From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Martin Hill
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 11:03 AM
To: wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: EyeTV vs set-top box (was Re: Used Macbook)


I've had several HDD digital TV set-top boxes in past years but I've
found an EyeTV-equipped Mac connected to a big screen to be far superior
even for simple recording schedules, let alone all the other features
(Note that AppleTV won't do any off-air TV recording so none of this is
possible with that box).  Here's just a few reasons:

- SmartGuides in EyeTV for example are far superior to time and date
scheduling as you just type in a keyword like David Attenborough or
science fiction or sbs news and it will automatically record every
documentary or movie that has that name in either the title or the
paragraph description or type that accompanies every show in the
Electronic Program Guide.  Priceless, particularly when broadcasters
move shows around or cancel or start them back up with little notice.  I
must have 30 or more smart guides for all sorts of shows and categories
on my TV iMac.  Smart Guides also allow you to enter complex criteria to
weed out duplicates on HD channels etc if you want to get fancy.
Smartguides can also be set to only keep a set number of a particular
show, so we always have the last two days worth of the Ten, ABC, SBS and
Nine evening news sitting on our Mac ready to watch if we so wish.

- Exporting to iPod format means I have been able to build up a large
library of movies, docos, Playschool (yes we have a toddler) and other
recordings on a separate hard drive array that take up far less room
than the huge MPEG-2 files that come down straight from the broadcaster
and which fill the HDDs of set top boxes far too quickly.  Of course,
these can also easily be synched with your iPhone etc since they are
already on the Mac - no disc burning or complex file transfers needed.

- MUCH friendlier user interface - Using the built-in scheduling
interfaces of most set-top boxes in my experience can be a very
frustrating, cramped, limiting experience trying to enter data from a
stupidly complex remote control.  Instead being able to use a wireless
mouse and Apple's excellent Bluetooth keyboard is SO much easier, there
is no comparison.

- If you need to record more than just one or two channels
simultaneously, adding extra EyeTV receivers is an exercise in
simplicity - plug it in a spare USB port, connect the antenna and voila!
an extra TV channel.  I've had 4 or more EyeTV units running on our
lounge room iMac in the past allowing me to view and/or record up to
that many channels simultaneously, all appearing in separate windows on
the 50 Plasma.  Picture-in-Picture eat your heart out.  :-)

- Cost.  If you already have a useable Mac, an EyTV DTT USB receiver can
be as cheap as $120.  Maybe add a nice big external hard disk for your
Mac and it is still cheaper than a decent set-top box.  If you do need
to buy a Mac Mini, the extra expense is usually worth it considering all
of the computer-based things you can then also do on the big Plasma
screen. 

Having such a large library of up-to-the minute pre-recorded shows means
we never watch live TV so we don't sit there wasting our time with ads
or shows we aren't really interested in.  As a result we actually watch
less TV than we ever did before because we only watch exactly what is
interesting, we are not slaves to the TV schedule, we skip all the ads
and when a recording finishes, we have to make the conscious decision to
double-click another recording rather than sitting there in a vegetative
state watching one bit of TV flotsam flow into another.

IMHO of course.   :-)

-Mart


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On 11/08/2010, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote:


Hi Pat,
If all you want to do is record and replay tv programs, then why not
consider a single or double hard drive DV recorder.  These units vary in
cost from around $600 to less than $200 but work exceptionally well.  It
would replace your existing set top box which could be utilised in some
other location.
I have gone this way and think it is a far better solution than using a
computer Elgato device (Both of which I possess but only use for tv when
caravanning.

Regards

John Thompson 
On 10/08/2010, at 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:


Hi, Daniel,

I'm trying to work out a solution to the failing health of 

RE: TV DVD Recording

2010-08-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

Thanks Daniel, heaps of good feedback today on this topic.

Regards

Peter.
-Original Message-
From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Daniel Kerr
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:17 PM
To: WAMUG
Subject: Re: TV DVD Recording


Just to combine a few answers,...

Peter -
Yes, as others have mentioned and you saw on the site, it does have the
burner installed. The Toast software is additional that you have to buy,
but
some versions of the Elgato untis come with a lite version of Toast.
Makes
burning content a lot easier. And generally Toast is a great piece of
software.
Ports - plenty of usb and Firewire ports, And all the others. You
generally
want a wireless keyboard and mouse to access it, rather then having to
access it from sitting right in front of it with a wired keyboard and
mouse.
Or if you don't want to do it that way, you can use the Screen Sharing
feature that the Mac has, so you can access it from another computer.
Good and bad points to both.
Cost - Obviously is a bit more expensive then an AppleTV, but as others
have
mentioned you can do a whole lot more. And it double as a whole other
computer if you need another one.

It's sort of one of those things, that once it's there you can see (and
appreciate) how much more you can do with it. Sure, it's a bit of a
learning
curve, and it may not do everything but what it does do, it does well.
(And add in an Apple remote and some of the features you can control
from
the little piece of technology.).

David -
As Neil mentioned you'd set the Macmini into the Amp and use it as
another
device there - eg CD, Radio, Turntable, AUX (MacMini) or something
similar.
So the amp would handle the content on the Macmini, but others would be
the
same as before.
IF you wanted the Macmini to control all your content (music, tv shows,
watch DVD's etc) then yes it may be an option. But if it was mostly just
to
control music, then it may not be the best method. I'm sure others more
in
an audio field may have ideas also.
(Plus brain has decided to slow down again,..lol).


Hope that all helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
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Re: 12V MacBook Pro adaptors

2010-08-10 Thread Phillip McGree

Time for that dreaded four letter word.

eBay.

I bought two cigarette lighter power supplies from someone on eBay last year, 
costing *about* $A50 each delivered. I've only used them a handful of times but 
they worked fine when required. If you want to have a look at one before buying 
then call me on 0418 922 500 and you're most welcome to have a look at mine.

Direct link: 
http://computers.shop.ebay.com.au/Laptop-Accessories-/31530/i.html?rt=ncBrand=Apple_catref=1_dmd=1_dmpt=AU_Laptop_Accessories_fln=1_ipg=200_sop=12_ssn=global-cctv_ssov=1_trksid=p3286.c0.m282?

Or, search by seller ID: http://myworld.ebay.com.au/global-cctv/


Regards,
Phil

On 11/08/2010, at 12:09 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:

 
 Hi...
 
 Before I shell out for international shipping, I was wondering if anyone
 has similar items to these in stock?
 
 http://www.hypershop.com/HyperMac-Pure-DC-Car-Charger-for-MacBook-p/mbp-car.htm
 http://mikegyver.com/Store/
 http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/ADPTMSC85/
 
 The Apple store tells me my 10A power socket at 12V (120W) can't supply
 the 85W and as such they don't have anything on the shelf :)
 
 Have fun,
 Shay (Yes, I already have a sinewave inverter)



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