Re: WORD 365 - CATALINA

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Julie,

If you have Office 365 make sure you have installed the 64-bit version.

Kind Regards,
Ronni

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> On 12 Oct 2020, at 11:54 am, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> Hopefully someone can help me.   Ever since upgrading my Microsoft Office to 
> the latest, I have had a recurring problem.
> 
> I usually type up a quote for my boss and paste in his signature.  Most of 
> the time when I do this, I get the message -
> “There is not enough memory or disk space to display or print the picture”
> 
> Oddly enough it doesn’t happen on every occasion.  I close all the other Word 
> documents I have open, but still no success.
> 
> I am unable to find any solution to this.  Would appreciate anyone’s guidance 
> on how to fix this one. 
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
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WORD 365 - CATALINA

[Julie Bedford]

Hi
Hopefully someone can help me.   Ever since upgrading my Microsoft Office to 
the latest, I have had a recurring problem.

I usually type up a quote for my boss and paste in his signature.  Most of the 
time when I do this, I get the message -
“There is not enough memory or disk space to display or print the picture”

Oddly enough it doesn’t happen on every occasion.  I close all the other Word 
documents I have open, but still no success.

I am unable to find any solution to this.  Would appreciate anyone’s guidance 
on how to fix this one. 

Cheers
Jewels

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Un-traverse a cross-reference in Word for Mac

[Adam Lippiatt]

Hi all

In Word for PC, Alt + left arrow takes you back to the place of the cross 
reference you have just clicked.  This does not work on the Mac.  I have 
searched high and low and cannot find the relevant Word function “Back” in Word 
for MacOS (I have the most current version).

People variously say it is the GoBack, WebGoBack function - but these don’t 
seem to exist anymore.

Does anyone know the answer to this?

Thank you.

Adam





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Re: Word

[Alan Smith]

Hi Bill,

I have Office 2011 and the latest (2019?) versions.   Any fraction can be 
entered in both versions.  I assume Word 2016 has the same process.  But as 
Peter said in an earlier email, the actual Microsoft process is not at all user 
friendly.  I have had no problems with simple entries.

The MS method can be accessed by the standard top menu bar via “Insert > 
Equation”.  Alternative access is via the document multi-function menu system 
starting with “Insert > Equation”.  It now gets complicated.  I would ignore 
the text box “type equation here”  that is inserted and select “Fraction” from 
the expanded document menu.  This displays various formats for entering 
fractions such as - or / for the two parts.  THEN you can type in the two 
numbers in a displayed fraction-formatted text box.  Plus lots of other options 
that you might explore when you have a spare hour or so.

Have fun,
Alan
 

> On 22 Apr 2020, at 8:39 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2020, at 11:18 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> Thanks for the info finally found them but only 1/2 1/4 3/4 where are the 
>> rest it seems when software is updated they seem to remove useful parts.
>> regards Bill
> 
> The Character Set contains characters for only ½, ¼, ¾, ⅓ and ⅔. For anything 
> else, you'll have find either a dedicated font or create your own fractions 
> using super/subscript and kerning adjustments, probably along the lines of 
> Peter Faulks’ suggestion.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: Word

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 11:18 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> Thanks for the info finally found them but only 1/2 1/4 3/4 where are the 
> rest it seems when software is updated they seem to remove useful parts.
> regards Bill

The Character Set contains characters for only ½, ¼, ¾, ⅓ and ⅔. For anything 
else, you'll have find either a dedicated font or create your own fractions 
using super/subscript and kerning adjustments, probably along the lines of 
Peter Faulks’ suggestion.


Kind regards,

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Re: Word

[Peter Faulks]

Hello



I had much the same problem so I created a document to show how to 
make fractions but at the end I just created my own fraction set 
which you can type in the fraction components then copy and paste the 
fraction into your document it solves 1/3 1/5 problems
the file you need is on my teacher resources mathematics page (also 
on the miscellaneous page)


Link
http://peterfaulks.net/Teaching/mathematics.html
File
MIS179 Creating maths fractions


Hello again.
Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find 
how to enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after 
thought I can,'t use the latest version of word as I am running 
Majove on this computer.I can't upgrade to catalina because my photo 
shop CS3  will not work with catalina.

Regards Bill

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Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find 
how to enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after 
thought I can,'t use the latest version of word as I am running 
Majove on this computer.I can't upgrade to catalina because my photo 
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Regards Bill

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Re: Word

[Juliet Kitson]

Hello
Thanks for the info finally found them but only 1/2 1/4 3/4 where are the
rest it seems when software is updated they seem to remove useful parts.
regards Bill

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:09 AM Peter Hinchliffe 
wrote:

>
>
> On 21 Apr 2020, at 8:09 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>
> Hello again.
> Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find how
> to enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after thought I
> can,'t use the latest version of word as I am running Majove on this
> computer.I can't upgrade to catalina because my photo shop CS3  will not
> work with catalina.
>
> Regards Bill
>
>
> There are a few ways to achieve this, with Word’s method probably being
> the worst. In fact, on my copy, any attempt to access Word’s method causes
> it to crash.
>
>
>1. By far the easiest is simply to use you Mac’s own built-in
>facilities. First of all, have a look in System Preferences > Keyboard >
>Test. You’ll see that simply typing “1/2” will automatically replace it
>with ½. This is meant to work anywhere (not just Word) but can be
>inconsistent, so
>2. In Word, go to Edit > Emoji & Symbols. This brings up the MacOS
>Character Viewer. In the Search filed at the top of the window, type “half”
>(without the quotes, of course). You’ll see the ½ character on the second
>or third line. Simply double click it to insert it into your document.
>
>
> Method 2 always works.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
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Re: Word

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 21 Apr 2020, at 8:09 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> 
> Hello again.
> Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find how to 
> enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after thought I can,'t 
> use the latest version of word as I am running Majove on this computer.I 
> can't upgrade to catalina because my photo shop CS3  will not work with 
> catalina.
> Regards Bill

There are a few ways to achieve this, with Word’s method probably being the 
worst. In fact, on my copy, any attempt to access Word’s method causes it to 
crash. 

By far the easiest is simply to use you Mac’s own built-in facilities. First of 
all, have a look in System Preferences > Keyboard > Test. You’ll see that 
simply typing “1/2” will automatically replace it with ½. This is meant to work 
anywhere (not just Word) but can be inconsistent, so
In Word, go to Edit > Emoji & Symbols. This brings up the MacOS Character 
Viewer. In the Search filed at the top of the window, type “half” (without the 
quotes, of course). You’ll see the ½ character on the second or third line. 
Simply double click it to insert it into your document.

Method 2 always works.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Word

[Brian RISBEY]

Hello Juliet

In Word, I believe that ‘self-correct’ changes 1 / 2 into ½ .

Brian Risbey 
OS13.3👨🏻‍💻☕️

On 21 Apr 2020, at 08:49, Rosemary Spark  wrote:


Hi Juliet,
Have a look at this
https://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/word/how-to-insert-special-characters-and-symbols-in-word-2016/
It may help.
Cheers
Rosemary Spark
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> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 08:10, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> Hello again.
> Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find how to 
> enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after thought I can,'t 
> use the latest version of word as I am running Majove on this computer.I 
> can't upgrade to catalina because my photo shop CS3  will not work with 
> catalina.
> Regards Bill
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Re: Word

[Rosemary Spark]

Hi Juliet,
Have a look at this
https://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/word/how-to-insert-special-characters-and-symbols-in-word-2016/
It may help.
Cheers
Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
Mobile: 0414268043




On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 08:10, Juliet Kitson  wrote:

> Hello again.
> Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find how
> to enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after thought I
> can,'t use the latest version of word as I am running Majove on this
> computer.I can't upgrade to catalina because my photo shop CS3  will not
> work with catalina.
> Regards Bill
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Word

[Juliet Kitson]

Hello again.
Another problem I have just started using word 2016 but I can't find how to
enter symbols like 1/2 etc. Does anybody know. As an after thought I can,'t
use the latest version of word as I am running Majove on this computer.I
can't upgrade to catalina because my photo shop CS3  will not work with
catalina.
Regards Bill
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Multiple prints from MS Word

[Severin Crisp]

Further to my first query on this problem my research has revealed an elegant 
solution which may appeal to others.  

1. from SystemPreferences/Printers and Scanners/Open Print Queue of the desired 
printer
2. Pause the printer
3. Drag and drop the files of the items to be printed into the Queue window
4. Go from Pause to Print
5. Bingo - it all happens and the order is preserved!

There are simpler ways to do 1. depending on your setup.  

I am a happy chappie with a prolific stack of nicely ordered printed pages!   

Severin Crisp


I have a series of folders, each contains a list of 10 - 20 single page MS Word 
documents, all of which I want to print.  
Selecting all those in one folder and going to Print  in the Finder File menu 
only prints a few (randomly selected!) members of the set.  How do I force a 
full print of all members of the files list, preferably in order?  
Severin Crisp


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Multiple prints from MS Word

[Severin Crisp]

I have a series of folders, each contains a list of 10 - 20 single page MS Word 
documents, all of which I want to print.  
Selecting all those in one folder and going to Print  in the Finder File menu 
only prints a few (randomly selected!) members of the set.  How do I force a 
full print of all members of the files list, preferably in order?  
Severin Crisp


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Re: Word 2011 Default File Location ?

[Stephen Chape]

Thanks Ronni.
Just trying to digest all that.
Looks like number 5 is my usual way of opening files.

When I SAVE Word goes to the Default Folder I have nominated in Preferences.
But when I OPEN it goes straight to Documents so have to change the path to get 
the document I need.


> On 3 Jan 2017, at 10:34 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, 
> 
> <https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_word-mso_mac/word-2011-for-mac-occasionally-changes-save/742a36a9-2865-4754-a7af-75b81ec99561
>  
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> 
> /Begin Quote:
> 1)  When you first launch Word (no matter how you launch it) Word's "Current 
> Folder" will be read from Word>Preferences>File Locations>Documents.  If that 
> entry is blank, it defaults to the System "Documents" folder for the logged 
> in user.
> 
> 2)  If you open a document by double-clicking in the Finder, "Save" will save 
> the document to its existing folder.  Save As will assume you want to change 
> folder and point you to the Word's default folder as set in 
> Word>Preferences>File Locations (usually Documents).
> 
> When you open a document with the Finder, Word "gets sent" the document, it 
> doesn't get told where the document came from, so it does not update its 
> current folder.
> 
> 3) When you save the first document, Word updates its "Current Save Folder" 
> to the location you save the document in, and remembers it;
> 
> 4) For the second and subsequent documents, it will offer the folder where 
> you saved the first document.  This will continue, updating the Current Save 
> Folder whenever you save a document into a different folder, until you quit 
> Word.
> 
> 5)  If, instead, you launch Word and then use File>Open from within Word to 
> open your documents, now Word DOES know where it got the document from, and 
> so it updates its Current Save Folder immediately.
> 
> If you use Save As after number 5, Word will offer the folder from which you 
> opened the document.
> The above behaviour is what it has always been in Mac Word: slightly 
> different from PC Word.  The PC sends Word the file location whenever you 
> double-click a document, so Word updates its Current Save Folder immediately, 
> always.
> /End Quote:
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> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 2 Jan 2017, at 10:26 pm, Stephen Chape  <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I don’t get it.
>> 
>> Although I have the default file location set in Preferences/File Locations,
>> Files still save and open from another location.
>> 
>> Any ideas please folks ?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Word 2011 Default File Location ?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen, 

<https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_word-mso_mac/word-2011-for-mac-occasionally-changes-save/742a36a9-2865-4754-a7af-75b81ec99561>

/Begin Quote:
1)  When you first launch Word (no matter how you launch it) Word's "Current 
Folder" will be read from Word>Preferences>File Locations>Documents.  If that 
entry is blank, it defaults to the System "Documents" folder for the logged in 
user.

2)  If you open a document by double-clicking in the Finder, "Save" will save 
the document to its existing folder.  Save As will assume you want to change 
folder and point you to the Word's default folder as set in 
Word>Preferences>File Locations (usually Documents).

When you open a document with the Finder, Word "gets sent" the document, it 
doesn't get told where the document came from, so it does not update its 
current folder.

3) When you save the first document, Word updates its "Current Save Folder" to 
the location you save the document in, and remembers it;

4) For the second and subsequent documents, it will offer the folder where you 
saved the first document.  This will continue, updating the Current Save Folder 
whenever you save a document into a different folder, until you quit Word.

5)  If, instead, you launch Word and then use File>Open from within Word to 
open your documents, now Word DOES know where it got the document from, and so 
it updates its Current Save Folder immediately.

If you use Save As after number 5, Word will offer the folder from which you 
opened the document.
The above behaviour is what it has always been in Mac Word: slightly different 
from PC Word.  The PC sends Word the file location whenever you double-click a 
document, so Word updates its Current Save Folder immediately, always.
/End Quote:
<https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_word-mso_mac/word-2011-for-mac-occasionally-changes-save/742a36a9-2865-4754-a7af-75b81ec99561>

Cheers,
Ronni

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> On 2 Jan 2017, at 10:26 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> I don’t get it.
> 
> Although I have the default file location set in Preferences/File Locations,
> Files still save and open from another location.
> 
> Any ideas please folks ?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Word 2011 Default File Location ?

[Stephen Chape]

I don’t get it.

Although I have the default file location set in Preferences/File Locations,
Files still save and open from another location.

Any ideas please folks ?

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Re: Fonts in Word 365

[Severin Crisp]

That's right Neil

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Dec 2015, at 1:23 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> 
> I think that Sev’s problem is not that TNR is not working (which, I think, 
> your reply addresses) - the problem is that TNR is the ONLY font that is 
> working correctly!
> “Selecting any other font brings up an unidentifiable, by me, sans serif 
> font.”
> 
> Sorry Sev – no answers from me.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 8/12/15 8:52, Ronni Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
> 
> On 7 Dec 2015, at 3:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> I am now in latest El Capitan and have a Word 365 problem.  I normally use 
> Times New Roman and that is correct (all preset from Yosemite).   Selecting 
> any other font brings up an unidentifiable, by me, sans serif font.   
> Font Book and all else seems normal and all fonts are fine in TextEdit or 
> Photoshop.
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> Try checking your Library Fonts folder (Macintosh HD/Library/Fonts). If Times 
> New Roman is not there, look in /Library/Fonts Disabled. If TNR is there, 
> move it to the regular Fonts folder, restart Word and see if Word can see it. 
> 
> In Font Book - look at the list of  ‘All Fonts’ and check the Time New Roman 
> is not “Off” and any other Fonts you require are not turned “Off” - Enable 
> them if they are.
> 
> Also have you tried running the OS X Font Book program to Resolve Duplicate 
> Fonts & Validate Fonts?
> Delete [not just disable] any problems/duplicates. Then shutdown for a few 
> moments, and then restart.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> OS X El Capitan 10.11
> 
> Comments welcomed!
> Severin Crisp
> _
> 
> Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
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Re: Fonts in Word 365

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,

I think that Sev¹s problem is not that TNR is not working (which, I think,
your reply addresses) - the problem is that TNR is the ONLY font that is
working correctly!
>  ³Selecting any other font brings up an unidentifiable, by me, sans serif
> font.²
> 
Sorry Sev ­ no answers from me.


Cheers




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on 8/12/15 8:52, Ronni Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

>> On 7 Dec 2015, at 3:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> I am now in latest El Capitan and have a Word 365 problem.  I normally use
>> Times New Roman and that is correct (all preset from Yosemite).   Selecting
>> any other font brings up an unidentifiable, by me, sans serif font.
>> Font Book and all else seems normal and all fonts are fine in TextEdit or
>> Photoshop.
>> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> Try checking your Library Fonts folder (Macintosh HD/Library/Fonts). If Times
> New Roman is not there, look in /Library/Fonts Disabled. If TNR is there, move
> it to the regular Fonts folder, restart Word and see if Word can see it.
> 
> In Font Book - look at the list of  ŒAll Fonts¹ and check the Time New Roman
> is not ³Off² and any other Fonts you require are not turned ³Off² - Enable
> them if they are.
> 
> Also have you tried running the OS X Font Book program to Resolve Duplicate
> Fonts & Validate Fonts?
> Delete [not just disable] any problems/duplicates. Then shutdown for a few
> moments, and then restart.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> OS X El Capitan 10.11
> 
>> Comments welcomed!
>> Severin Crisp
>> _
>> 
>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>> 

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Re: Fonts in Word 365

[Ronni Brown]

> On 7 Dec 2015, at 3:27 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> I am now in latest El Capitan and have a Word 365 problem.  I normally use 
> Times New Roman and that is correct (all preset from Yosemite).   Selecting 
> any other font brings up an unidentifiable, by me, sans serif font.   
> Font Book and all else seems normal and all fonts are fine in TextEdit or 
> Photoshop.
> 

Hi Severin,

Try checking your Library Fonts folder (Macintosh HD/Library/Fonts). If Times 
New Roman is not there, look in /Library/Fonts Disabled. If TNR is there, move 
it to the regular Fonts folder, restart Word and see if Word can see it. 

In Font Book - look at the list of  ‘All Fonts’ and check the Time New Roman is 
not “Off” and any other Fonts you require are not turned “Off” - Enable them if 
they are.

Also have you tried running the OS X Font Book program to Resolve Duplicate 
Fonts & Validate Fonts?
Delete [not just disable] any problems/duplicates. Then shutdown for a few 
moments, and then restart.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X El Capitan 10.11

> Comments welcomed!
> Severin Crisp
> _
> 
>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>
> 
> 
> 

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Fonts in Word 365

[Severin Crisp]

I am now in latest El Capitan and have a Word 365 problem.  I normally use 
Times New Roman and that is correct (all preset from Yosemite).   Selecting any 
other font brings up an unidentifiable, by me, sans serif font.   
Font Book and all else seems normal and all fonts are fine in TextEdit or 
Photoshop.  
Comments welcomed!
Severin Crisp


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15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
  ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: Printing a Word 2011 document ?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 25 Jun 2015, at 6:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you ever so much Brian.
> Three of us spent a long time going through Word menus.
> But could not see the wood for the trees.
> 
> This is for the “Order of Service” handout for my mother in law’s funeral.
> So gotta get it right !
> 
> 

If you find the answer in Word menus you’re probably asking the wrong 
question..;-)

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Re: Printing a Word 2011 document ?

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you ever so much Brian.
Three of us spent a long time going through Word menus.
But could not see the wood for the trees.

This is for the “Order of Service” handout for my mother in law’s funeral.
So gotta get it right !


> On 25 Jun 2015, at 6:31 pm, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephan 
> 
>  typo:1 Command+p 
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 Jun 2015, at 5:54 pm, Brian Risbey  <mailto:risb...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen
> 
> 1 Command+p  
> 2 Click on copies and pages button- select 'Layout'
> 3 Select  pages per sheet- preview shows 1. 2
> 4 Do you want a frame around each frame? Select border.
> 5 Print
> 
> That work?
> 
> I have a create booklet app that now appears in my PDF button-paid for it.
> Rearranges the pages automatically.
> 
> 
> Brian
> Sent from my iPhone6 Plus
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> 
> On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:25, Stephen Chape  <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Does anyone know how to print Landscape 2 pages on 1 sheet A4 please ?
> I need to make a folded 2 page document in this way.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Printing a Word 2011 document ?

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Stephan 

 typo:1 Command+p 



On 25 Jun 2015, at 5:54 pm, Brian Risbey  wrote:

Hi Stephen

1 Command+p  
2 Click on copies and pages button- select 'Layout'
3 Select  pages per sheet- preview shows 1. 2
4 Do you want a frame around each frame? Select border.
5 Print

That work?

I have a create booklet app that now appears in my PDF button-paid for it.
Rearranges the pages automatically.


Brian
Sent from my iPhone6 Plus
iOS 8.3🏊🏻

On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:25, Stephen Chape mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:

Hi Folks,

Does anyone know how to print Landscape 2 pages on 1 sheet A4 please ?
I need to make a folded 2 page document in this way.

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Re: Printing a Word 2011 document ?

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Stephen

1 Command+print
2 Click on copies and pages button- select 'Layout'
3 Select  pages per sheet- preview shows 1. 2
4 Do you want a frame around each frame? Select border.
5 Print

That work?

I have a create booklet app that now appears in my PDF button-paid for it.
Rearranges the pages automatically.


Brian
Sent from my iPhone6 Plus
iOS 8.3🏊🏻

On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:25, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Folks,

Does anyone know how to print Landscape 2 pages on 1 sheet A4 please ?
I need to make a folded 2 page document in this way.

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Re: PDF to Word Convertors

[gdorn]

Hi Daniel

I stumbled across this one.

iSkysoft   - http://www.iskysoft.com/edit-pdf/mac-alternative-foxit-reader.html


never used it though?

chow

On 01/07/2014, at 11:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I just wondered "in the real world" if anyone has used any PDF to Word 
> convertors they can recommend and find quite good.
> I've done the normally searching, looking in Mac App Store, google-ing and 
> looking around, but thought I'd ask for what people may be using out there.
> (And yes I know some were mentioned recently in previous posts for PDF 
> editors etc, and I've looked at those as well).
> 
> As I don't use these myself (as don't have the need) then just going by 
> reviews and write ups etc (or downloading lots and testing some which I've 
> done) doesn't always give the best feedback.
> 
> So thought I'd ask people out there what they use and feel is worth the money 
> for one of my clients.
> 
> Some of the links I've looked at already are -
> Nomad - https://sintraworks.com/index.php/sintraworks/pdfnomad_home
> PDF Pen - http://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/index.html
> Automator or Solid Documents - 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/1162699/how_to_convert_pdfs_to_word_and_other_formats_.html
> PDFMate - http://www.pdfmate.com/best-mac-pdf-converters-review.html
> Free in Google Docs - 
> http://osxdaily.com/2012/07/12/convert-pdf-to-doc-free-with-google-docs/ 
> (what,..as if google doesn't get enough info already)
> PDF Work to Mac reviews - 
> http://www.iskysoft.com/convert-pdf/convert-pdf-to-word-mac.html
> Plus "PDF to Word" searching in Mac App Store,…and reading lots of 
> reviews!
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any useful info.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
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Re: PDF to Word Convertors

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 1 Jul 2014, at 11:46 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I just wondered "in the real world" if anyone has used any PDF to Word 
> convertors they can recommend and find quite good.
> I've done the normally searching, looking in Mac App Store, google-ing and 
> looking around, but thought I'd ask for what people may be using out there.
> (And yes I know some were mentioned recently in previous posts for PDF 
> editors etc, and I've looked at those as well).
> 

I haven't had the time or opportunity to test most of the options you mention, 
but I can recommend highly PDF Pen. It's certainly not cheap, but in my 
experience it does an excellent job of converting PDFs to Word or RTF format, 
which of course then be loaded into pretty much any other word processor. One 
thing to be aware of though - it does need an internet connection for the 
conversion process since it uses Omnipage routines from Nuance. Of course, PDF 
Pen has many more powers, including being able to edit the content of existing 
PDFs, but I have used it to great effect in converting PDFs to Word format, 
which were then used in Pages. I'll send you a sample of what it does privately 
because of the limitations of the List when it comes to attachments. 

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PDF to Word Convertors

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi All

I just wondered "in the real world" if anyone has used any PDF to Word 
convertors they can recommend and find quite good.
I've done the normally searching, looking in Mac App Store, google-ing and 
looking around, but thought I'd ask for what people may be using out there.
(And yes I know some were mentioned recently in previous posts for PDF editors 
etc, and I've looked at those as well).

As I don't use these myself (as don't have the need) then just going by reviews 
and write ups etc (or downloading lots and testing some which I've done) 
doesn't always give the best feedback.

So thought I'd ask people out there what they use and feel is worth the money 
for one of my clients.

Some of the links I've looked at already are -
Nomad - https://sintraworks.com/index.php/sintraworks/pdfnomad_home
PDF Pen - http://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/index.html
Automator or Solid Documents - 
http://www.macworld.com/article/1162699/how_to_convert_pdfs_to_word_and_other_formats_.html
PDFMate - http://www.pdfmate.com/best-mac-pdf-converters-review.html
Free in Google Docs - 
http://osxdaily.com/2012/07/12/convert-pdf-to-doc-free-with-google-docs/ 
(what,..as if google doesn't get enough info already)
PDF Work to Mac reviews - 
http://www.iskysoft.com/convert-pdf/convert-pdf-to-word-mac.html
Plus "PDF to Word" searching in Mac App Store,…and reading lots of reviews!


Thanks in advance for any useful info.


Kind regards
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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Severin Crisp]

Interesting thinking Daniel but sadly it does not work.   The Word document is 
a Table and contains entries with some typed in and some calculated.   All the 
typed in entries are fine always.   Of the others just a few, seemingly random, 
are incorrect, coming up as thousands rather than hundreds.  When I change the 
font as suggested a different small group are incorrect.  
Maybe that is a clue?  
Good Christmas to all
Severin Crisp

On 23 Dec 2013, at 5:07 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

> Hi Severin
> 
> Just as something different,…have you tried selecting the whole spreadsheet 
> and selecting a different font.
> Then see how it goes as a pdf and/or printing.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
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> On 23/12/2013, at 2:48 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni
>>  from any view the numbers look fine on screen.   It is only when 
>> actually printed or saved to PDF that corruption of just a few occurs.  To 
>> be shelved till after Christmas.  
>> Have a good one yourself, Ronni!  
>> Severin
>> 
>> On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:47 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> Are you printing from Layout  view?
>>> "This view shows you exactly what you'll see in the printed document, along 
>>> with nonprinting formatting marks. It uses more system memory than normal 
>>> view, but lets you see the entire layout of your pages. Use print layout 
>>> view when working on page layouts or with tables or graphics."
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 3:41 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the comments, Peter.  
>>>> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>>>>  1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens 
>>>> and displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>>>>  2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are 
>>>> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non calculated 
>>>> values are fine.  
>>>>  3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in 
>>>> printing
>>>>  4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>>>>  5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>>>>  6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is 
>>>> disturbed
>>>>  7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit, the 
>>>> numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.  
>>>> 
>>>> All in all, most annoying!
>>>> 
>>>> Severin Crisp
>>>> 
>>>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC 
>>>>>> and Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some 
>>>>>> calculations embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, 
>>>>>> not all, of the calculated cells have incorrect values in them when 
>>>>>> printed.  The same thing happens when I save as PDF so I suspect a 
>>>>>> postscript mismatch is the culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves as 
>>>>>> .rtf correctly.  I have latest MS Office and it gets it wrong if I save 
>>>>>> as a .docx.  
>>>>>> Most annoying, comments please!  
>>>>> 
>>>>> A few ideas:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read 
>>>>> .doc files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones (NeoOffice, 
>>>>> etc - assuming have any of the latter)? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Do you know the syn

Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Daniel Kerr]

Thanks Rob, I was trying to "Think Different" :o)
Hopefully it will work,…will be interested to hear. Sometimes fonts can also 
corrupt I've found as well, so adjusting or changing to something different can 
"override" this corruption. ;)

Merry Christmas to everyone

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 23/12/2013, at 9:21 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:

> Well done Daniel. This is a good suggestion to a problem that was puzzling 
> me. I couldn't think of a sensible answer, but if Sev's system uses (or 
> replaces) a document font which doesn't have a printable version, then this 
> could be the solution.
> 
> If Daniel's idea is correct, I would suspect that the section of the table 
> which prints properly will use a different font than that which doesn't.
> 
> Season's greetings
> 
> Rob
> 
> On 23/12/13 5:07 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> Hi Severin
>> 
>> Just as something different,…have you tried selecting the whole spreadsheet 
>> and selecting a different font.
>> Then see how it goes as a pdf and/or printing.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
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>> 
>> On 23/12/2013, at 2:48 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> from any view the numbers look fine on screen.   It is only 
>>> when actually printed or saved to PDF that corruption of just a few occurs. 
>>>  To be shelved till after Christmas.  
>>> Have a good one yourself, Ronni!  
>>> Severin
>>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:47 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Severin,
>>>> 
>>>> Are you printing from Layout  view?
>>>> "This view shows you exactly what you'll see in the printed document, 
>>>> along with nonprinting formatting marks. It uses more system memory than 
>>>> normal view, but lets you see the entire layout of your pages. Use print 
>>>> layout view when working on page layouts or with tables or graphics."
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 3:41 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the comments, Peter.  
>>>>> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>>>>>  1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens 
>>>>> and displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>>>>>  2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are 
>>>>> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non 
>>>>> calculated values are fine.  
>>>>>  3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in 
>>>>> printing
>>>>>  4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>>>>>  5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>>>>>  6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is 
>>>>> disturbed
>>>>>  7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit, the 
>>>>> numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> All in all, most annoying!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Severin Crisp
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, 

Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Rob Phillips]

Well done Daniel. This is a good suggestion to a problem that was 
puzzling me. I couldn't think of a sensible answer, but if Sev's system 
uses (or replaces) a document font which doesn't have a printable 
version, then this could be the solution.


If Daniel's idea is correct, I would suspect that the section of the 
table which prints properly will use a different font than that which 
doesn't.


Season's greetings

Rob

On 23/12/13 5:07 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

Hi Severin

Just as something different,...have you tried selecting the whole 
spreadsheet and selecting a different font.

Then see how it goes as a pdf and/or printing.


Kind regards
Daniel

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On 23/12/2013, at 2:48 PM, Severin Crisp <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:



Hi Ronni
from any view the numbers look fine on screen. It is only when 
actually printed or saved to PDF that corruption of just a few 
occurs.  To be shelved till after Christmas.

Have a good one yourself, Ronni!
Severin

On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:47 am, Ronda Brown <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:



Hi Severin,

Are you printing from Layout view?
"This view shows you exactly what you'll see in the printed 
document, along with nonprinting formatting marks. It uses more 
system memory than normal view, but lets you see the entire layout 
of your pages. Use print layout view when working on page layouts or 
with tables or graphics."


Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad


On 20 Dec 2013, at 3:41 pm, Severin Crisp <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:



Thanks for the comments, Peter.
Let me emphasise the problem again.
 1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) 
opens and displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
 2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which 
are calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non 
calculated values are fine.
 3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as 
in printing

 4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
 5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
 6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is 
disturbed
 7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text 
Edit, the numbers are fine but once again the setting out is 
disturbed.


All in all, most annoying!

Severin Crisp

On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe 
mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:




On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:


I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with 
a PC and Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some 
calculations embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but 
some, not all, of the calculated cells have incorrect values in 
them when printed.  The same thing happens when I save as PDF so 
I suspect a postscript mismatch is the culprit.  Though it looks 
awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I have latest MS Office and it 
gets it wrong if I save as a .docx.

Most annoying, comments please!


A few ideas:

1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will 
read .doc files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones 
(NeoOffice, etc - assuming have any of the latter)?


2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter 
them into your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might 
work.


3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set 
up which isn't available to you


Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be 
some internal structural problems with the file.


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Severin

Just as something different,…have you tried selecting the whole spreadsheet and 
selecting a different font.
Then see how it goes as a pdf and/or printing.


Kind regards
Daniel

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On 23/12/2013, at 2:48 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

> Hi Ronni
>   from any view the numbers look fine on screen.   It is only when 
> actually printed or saved to PDF that corruption of just a few occurs.  To be 
> shelved till after Christmas.  
> Have a good one yourself, Ronni!  
> Severin
> 
> On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:47 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> Are you printing from Layout  view?
>> "This view shows you exactly what you'll see in the printed document, along 
>> with nonprinting formatting marks. It uses more system memory than normal 
>> view, but lets you see the entire layout of your pages. Use print layout 
>> view when working on page layouts or with tables or graphics."
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 3:41 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the comments, Peter.  
>>> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>>>  1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens and 
>>> displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>>>  2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are 
>>> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non calculated 
>>> values are fine.  
>>>  3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in 
>>> printing
>>>  4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>>>  5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>>>  6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is disturbed
>>>  7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit, the 
>>> numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.  
>>> 
>>> All in all, most annoying!
>>> 
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC 
>>>>> and Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some calculations 
>>>>> embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, not all, of 
>>>>> the calculated cells have incorrect values in them when printed.  The 
>>>>> same thing happens when I save as PDF so I suspect a postscript mismatch 
>>>>> is the culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I 
>>>>> have latest MS Office and it gets it wrong if I save as a .docx.  
>>>>> Most annoying, comments please!  
>>>> 
>>>> A few ideas:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read .doc 
>>>> files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones (NeoOffice, etc - 
>>>> assuming have any of the latter)? 
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them 
>>>> into your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work. 
>>>> 
>>>> 3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up which 
>>>> isn't available to you
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some 
>>>> internal structural problems with the file.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>>> 
>>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>>> 
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>

Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Severin Crisp]

Hi Ronni
from any view the numbers look fine on screen.   It is only when 
actually printed or saved to PDF that corruption of just a few occurs.  To be 
shelved till after Christmas.  
Have a good one yourself, Ronni!  
Severin

On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:47 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> Are you printing from Layout  view?
> "This view shows you exactly what you'll see in the printed document, along 
> with nonprinting formatting marks. It uses more system memory than normal 
> view, but lets you see the entire layout of your pages. Use print layout view 
> when working on page layouts or with tables or graphics."
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> 
> On 20 Dec 2013, at 3:41 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the comments, Peter.  
>> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>>  1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens and 
>> displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>>  2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are 
>> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non calculated 
>> values are fine.  
>>  3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in printing
>>  4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>>  5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>>  6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is disturbed
>>  7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit, the 
>> numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.  
>> 
>> All in all, most annoying!
>> 
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC and 
>>>> Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some calculations 
>>>> embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, not all, of the 
>>>> calculated cells have incorrect values in them when printed.  The same 
>>>> thing happens when I save as PDF so I suspect a postscript mismatch is the 
>>>> culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I have latest 
>>>> MS Office and it gets it wrong if I save as a .docx.  
>>>> Most annoying, comments please!  
>>> 
>>> A few ideas:
>>> 
>>> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read .doc 
>>> files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones (NeoOffice, etc - 
>>> assuming have any of the latter)? 
>>> 
>>> 2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them into 
>>> your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work. 
>>> 
>>> 3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up which 
>>> isn't available to you
>>> 
>>> Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some 
>>> internal structural problems with the file.
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

Are you printing from Layout  view?
"This view shows you exactly what you'll see in the printed document, along 
with nonprinting formatting marks. It uses more system memory than normal view, 
but lets you see the entire layout of your pages. Use print layout view when 
working on page layouts or with tables or graphics."

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad


> On 20 Dec 2013, at 3:41 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the comments, Peter.  
> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>  1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens and 
> displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>  2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are 
> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non calculated 
> values are fine.  
>  3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in printing
>  4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>  5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>  6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is disturbed
>  7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit, the 
> numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.  
> 
> All in all, most annoying!
> 
> Severin Crisp
> 
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC and 
>>> Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some calculations 
>>> embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, not all, of the 
>>> calculated cells have incorrect values in them when printed.  The same 
>>> thing happens when I save as PDF so I suspect a postscript mismatch is the 
>>> culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I have latest 
>>> MS Office and it gets it wrong if I save as a .docx.  
>>> Most annoying, comments please!  
>> 
>> A few ideas:
>> 
>> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read .doc 
>> files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones (NeoOffice, etc - 
>> assuming have any of the latter)? 
>> 
>> 2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them into 
>> your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work. 
>> 
>> 3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up which 
>> isn't available to you
>> 
>> Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some 
>> internal structural problems with the file.
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>> 
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
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> 
> 
> 
>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Severin Crisp]

Numbers will not open it

On 20 Dec 2013, at 5:54 pm, Merv Bond  wrote:

> Have you tried opening the document in Numbers?
> Merv
> 
> On 20/12/13 3:41 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> Thanks for the comments, Peter.
>> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>>  1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens
>> and displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>>  2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are
>> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non
>> calculated values are fine.
>>  3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in
>> printing
>>  4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>>  5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>>  6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is
>> disturbed
>>  7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit,
>> the numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.
>> 
>> All in all, most annoying!
>> 
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe > <mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp >> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a
>>>> PC and Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some
>>>> calculations embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but
>>>> some, not all, of the calculated cells have incorrect values in them
>>>> when printed.  The same thing happens when I save as PDF so I suspect
>>>> a postscript mismatch is the culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves
>>>> as .rtf correctly.  I have latest MS Office and it gets it wrong if I
>>>> save as a .docx.
>>>> Most annoying, comments please!
>>> 
>>> A few ideas:
>>> 
>>> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read
>>> .doc files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones
>>> (NeoOffice, etc - assuming have any of the latter)?
>>> 
>>> 2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them
>>> into your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work.
>>> 
>>> 3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up
>>> which isn't available to you
>>> 
>>> Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some
>>> internal structural problems with the file.
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>> 
>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>
>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>
>>> Settings & Unsubscribe -
>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Merv Bond]

Have you tried opening the document in Numbers?
Merv

On 20/12/13 3:41 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> Thanks for the comments, Peter.
> Let me emphasise the problem again.
>   1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens
> and displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
>   2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are
> calculated within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non
> calculated values are fine.
>   3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in
> printing
>   4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
>   5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
>   6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is
> disturbed
>   7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit,
> the numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.
>
> All in all, most annoying!
>
> Severin Crisp
>
> On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  <mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp > <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a
>>> PC and Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some
>>> calculations embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but
>>> some, not all, of the calculated cells have incorrect values in them
>>> when printed.  The same thing happens when I save as PDF so I suspect
>>> a postscript mismatch is the culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves
>>> as .rtf correctly.  I have latest MS Office and it gets it wrong if I
>>> save as a .docx.
>>> Most annoying, comments please!
>>
>> A few ideas:
>>
>> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read
>> .doc files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones
>> (NeoOffice, etc - assuming have any of the latter)?
>>
>> 2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them
>> into your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work.
>>
>> 3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up
>> which isn't available to you
>>
>> Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some
>> internal structural problems with the file.
>>
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>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks for the comments, Peter.  
Let me emphasise the problem again.
 1. The document basically a table (Word .doc from 93 PC version) opens and 
displays correctly in my MS Office 2011, Word 14.3.9
 2.  When I print, on any of three printers, a few values, which are calculated 
within Word are incorrect, some are unaffected.  Non calculated values are 
fine.  
 3. When I save as PDF from the print dialog corruption occurs as in printing
 4. If I open the document in Acrobat 11, the same corruption occurs
 5. Text Edit can not open the document sensibly
 6.  Preview opens and prints correctly, though the setting out is disturbed
 7. If I save from Word as .rtf, then open and print from Text Edit, the 
numbers are fine but once again the setting out is disturbed.  

All in all, most annoying!

Severin Crisp

On 20 Dec 2013, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

> 
> On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC and 
>> Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some calculations 
>> embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, not all, of the 
>> calculated cells have incorrect values in them when printed.  The same thing 
>> happens when I save as PDF so I suspect a postscript mismatch is the 
>> culprit.  Though it looks awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I have latest 
>> MS Office and it gets it wrong if I save as a .docx.  
>> Most annoying, comments please!  
> 
> A few ideas:
> 
> 1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read .doc 
> files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones (NeoOffice, etc - 
> assuming have any of the latter)? 
> 
> 2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them into 
> your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work. 
> 
> 3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up which 
> isn't available to you
> 
> Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some 
> internal structural problems with the file.
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
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Re: A MS Word puzzle

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 19 Dec 2013, at 3:47 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:

> I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC and 
> Word 2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some calculations 
> embedded in it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, not all, of the 
> calculated cells have incorrect values in them when printed.  The same thing 
> happens when I save as PDF so I suspect a postscript mismatch is the culprit. 
>  Though it looks awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I have latest MS Office 
> and it gets it wrong if I save as a .docx.  
> Most annoying, comments please!  

A few ideas:

1. What happens if you open the file in something else that will read .doc 
files, eg, TextEdit or Open Office or any of its clones (NeoOffice, etc - 
assuming have any of the latter)? 

2. Do you know the syntax of the calculations? Could you re-enter them into 
your onscreen document? A bit of a nuisance but it might work. 

3. I'm also wondering if there isn't some reliance on a macro set up which 
isn't available to you

Sorry I can't of more help. It does seem likely that there may be some internal 
structural problems with the file.

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A MS Word puzzle

[Severin Crisp]

I regularly receive a report in Word.doc format from someone with a PC and Word 
2003.  The document is in fact a table and has some calculations embedded in 
it.  It displays correctly on screen but some, not all, of the calculated cells 
have incorrect values in them when printed.  The same thing happens when I save 
as PDF so I suspect a postscript mismatch is the culprit.  Though it looks 
awful it saves as .rtf correctly.  I have latest MS Office and it gets it wrong 
if I save as a .docx.  
Most annoying, comments please!  
Severin Crisp


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Re: Word playing up.

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 23/09/2012, at 8:34 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:

> Not so Tim,  It doesn't matter which View I choose, the end result is text 
> hard up against the left edge when I go back to Print layout!  
> 
> Bill
> On 23/09/2012, at 7:49 AM, Tim Law wrote:
> 
>> Bill I suspect you have changed 'Views'
>> You probably are familiar with print view, but have somehow selected 
>> 'Normal' view.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 23/09/2012, at 6:35, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if there are any Word experts out there.  I have Microsoft Office 
>>> 2011.
>>> 
>>> Suddenly it has decided to remove all borders.  So a new document opens and 
>>> new text appears in the top left corner.  
>>> 
>>> I have tried working with Styles but the section on page borders is greyed 
>>> out.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 

Try the following:

1. Quit Word if it's already running
2. Go to ~/Library/Application Support/Microsoft/Office/User Templates and 
removing the file "Normal.dotm". 
(If you're running Lion or later choose hold down the Option kay and choose Go 
> Library from the Finder)
3. Restart Word and open a new document. See if the problem has gone.


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Re: Word playing up.

[Bill Parker]

Not so Tim,  It doesn't matter which View I choose, the end result is text hard 
up against the left edge when I go back to Print layout!  

Bill
On 23/09/2012, at 7:49 AM, Tim Law wrote:

> Bill I suspect you have changed 'Views'
> You probably are familiar with print view, but have somehow selected 'Normal' 
> view.
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 23/09/2012, at 6:35, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if there are any Word experts out there.  I have Microsoft Office 
>> 2011.
>> 
>> Suddenly it has decided to remove all borders.  So a new document opens and 
>> new text appears in the top left corner.  
>> 
>> I have tried working with Styles but the section on page borders is greyed 
>> out.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
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Re: Word playing up.

[Tim Law]

Bill I suspect you have changed 'Views'
You probably are familiar with print view, but have somehow selected 'Normal' 
view.

Tim

Sent from my iPad

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> I wonder if there are any Word experts out there.  I have Microsoft Office 
> 2011.
> 
> Suddenly it has decided to remove all borders.  So a new document opens and 
> new text appears in the top left corner.  
> 
> I have tried working with Styles but the section on page borders is greyed 
> out.
> 
> Bill
> 
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Word playing up.

[Bill Parker]

I wonder if there are any Word experts out there.  I have Microsoft Office 2011.

Suddenly it has decided to remove all borders.  So a new document opens and new 
text appears in the top left corner.  

I have tried working with Styles but the section on page borders is greyed out.

Bill



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Re: Microsoftsoft Office - Word or Excel won't open after OSX 10.8 upgrade

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 29/07/2012, at 2:27 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Bingo!
> 
> Thank You Ronnie and Daniel,
> 
> I Used Font Book to remove and Restore Standard Fonts, after exporting all 
> fonts to a folder on the desktop.
> 
> Removed the preferences for com.microsoft.office.Word 
> andcom.microsoft.office.Excel...
> and all is well!
> 
> Huge sigh of relief.
> 
> Still like Pulp App. for reading pdfs. after 3 days - is an improvement over 
> reading RSS feeds in MailOSX 10.7.4
> and other M.Lion changes.
> 
> 
> Brian
> 


I've been having the same problem with Office 2011 after doing a clean install. 
It eventually starts, but takes about four tries. I'll try these tips as well.

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Re: Microsoftsoft Office - Word or Excel won't open after OSX 10.8 upgrade

[Brian Risbey]

Bingo!

Thank You Ronnie and Daniel,

I Used Font Book to remove and Restore Standard Fonts, after exporting all 
fonts to a folder on the desktop.

Removed the preferences for com.microsoft.office.Word 
andcom.microsoft.office.Excel...
and all is well!

Huge sigh of relief.

Still like Pulp App. for reading pdfs. after 3 days - is an improvement over 
reading RSS feeds in MailOSX 10.7.4
and other M.Lion changes.


Brian


On 29/07/2012, at 2:13 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

Hi Brian

This shows the list of fonts installed by Office 2011.
<http://www.officeformachelp.com/office/font-management/>
You could try removing those first (to the desktop perhaps) then see how it 
goes. It will normally rebuild the Fonts it needs as it goes (as it does with 
Preferences as well).
May be a first point to start with.

Preferences and Fonts in your Library can also be "temporarily" removed to the 
Desktop as well to see how goes.

(To get to your own Library hold down Option then from the Finder go to the Go 
Menu and choose "Library" (Will have a picture of a house beside it).

In your Library you'll see Fonts (and can remove some or all to see how goes).
Then can also check Preferences and remove 
com.microsoft.office.plist and com.microsoft.office.setupassistant.plist

A few things to start with anyway.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 29/07/2012, at 2:01 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Hi Ronnie,
> believe I did...
> I had read through MicroSoft website.
> Software update says no updates available as does MacUpdate.
> 
> Seems to stop loading as it updates font menu. gets to 5% the error - 
> 
> error report:
> Microsoft Error Reporting log version: 2.0
> 
> Error Signature:
> Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS
> Date/Time: 2012-07-29 05:43:51 +
> Application Name: Microsoft Word
> Application Bundle ID: com.microsoft.Word
> Application Signature: MSWD
> Application Version: 14.2.3.120616
> Crashed Module Name: unknown
> Crashed Module Version: unknown
> Crashed Module Offset: unknown
> Blame Module Name: unknown
> Blame Module Version: unknown
> Blame Module Offset: unknown
> Application LCID: 1033
> Extra app info: Reg=en Loc=0x0409
> Crashed thread: 0
> 
> 
> Maybe if I back up and then remove all but 'basic fonts'?
> Word and Excel were all happy before M.Lion update and I had recently updated 
> Office.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2012, at 1:53 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Do you have Microsoft's AutoUpdate feature enabled?
> Service packs and suchlike must be installed through the AutoUpdate channel.
> 
> <http://blog.officeformac.com/were-ready-for-mountain-lion>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2012, at 1:24 PM, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Word and Excel won't open,
>> seems to show initial start up where it checks fonts and that is when an 
>> error message comes up - trying to update fonts.
>> Verified and Repaired permissions, 
>> can't see anything in Font Book application that may help.
>> 
>> Tried Microsoft for Mac upgrade, after downloading Office 2011 1432 Update 
>> bypassing the you didn't download this from App Shop (used control key) told 
>> the program wasn't on the HD.
>> 
>> Do I need to reinstall MicroSoft Office 2011 from disk?
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
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Re: Microsoftsoft Office - Word or Excel won't open after OSX 10.8 upgrade

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Brian

This shows the list of fonts installed by Office 2011.
<http://www.officeformachelp.com/office/font-management/>
You could try removing those first (to the desktop perhaps) then see how it 
goes. It will normally rebuild the Fonts it needs as it goes (as it does with 
Preferences as well).
May be a first point to start with.

Preferences and Fonts in your Library can also be "temporarily" removed to the 
Desktop as well to see how goes.

(To get to your own Library hold down Option then from the Finder go to the Go 
Menu and choose "Library" (Will have a picture of a house beside it).

In your Library you'll see Fonts (and can remove some or all to see how goes).
Then can also check Preferences and remove 
com.microsoft.office.plist and com.microsoft.office.setupassistant.plist

A few things to start with anyway.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 29/07/2012, at 2:01 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Hi Ronnie,
> believe I did...
> I had read through MicroSoft website.
> Software update says no updates available as does MacUpdate.
> 
> Seems to stop loading as it updates font menu. gets to 5% the error - 
> 
> error report:
> Microsoft Error Reporting log version: 2.0
> 
> Error Signature:
> Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS
> Date/Time: 2012-07-29 05:43:51 +
> Application Name: Microsoft Word
> Application Bundle ID: com.microsoft.Word
> Application Signature: MSWD
> Application Version: 14.2.3.120616
> Crashed Module Name: unknown
> Crashed Module Version: unknown
> Crashed Module Offset: unknown
> Blame Module Name: unknown
> Blame Module Version: unknown
> Blame Module Offset: unknown
> Application LCID: 1033
> Extra app info: Reg=en Loc=0x0409
> Crashed thread: 0
> 
> 
> Maybe if I back up and then remove all but 'basic fonts'?
> Word and Excel were all happy before M.Lion update and I had recently updated 
> Office.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2012, at 1:53 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Do you have Microsoft's AutoUpdate feature enabled?
> Service packs and suchlike must be installed through the AutoUpdate channel.
> 
> <http://blog.officeformac.com/were-ready-for-mountain-lion>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 29/07/2012, at 1:24 PM, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Word and Excel won't open,
>> seems to show initial start up where it checks fonts and that is when an 
>> error message comes up - trying to update fonts.
>> Verified and Repaired permissions, 
>> can't see anything in Font Book application that may help.
>> 
>> Tried Microsoft for Mac upgrade, after downloading Office 2011 1432 Update 
>> bypassing the you didn't download this from App Shop (used control key) told 
>> the program wasn't on the HD.
>> 
>> Do I need to reinstall MicroSoft Office 2011 from disk?
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
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Re: Microsoftsoft Office - Word or Excel won't open after OSX 10.8 upgrade

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Ronnie,
believe I did...
I had read through MicroSoft website.
Software update says no updates available as does MacUpdate.

Seems to stop loading as it updates font menu. gets to 5% the error - 

error report:
Microsoft Error Reporting log version: 2.0

Error Signature:
Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS
Date/Time: 2012-07-29 05:43:51 +
Application Name: Microsoft Word
Application Bundle ID: com.microsoft.Word
Application Signature: MSWD
Application Version: 14.2.3.120616
Crashed Module Name: unknown
Crashed Module Version: unknown
Crashed Module Offset: unknown
Blame Module Name: unknown
Blame Module Version: unknown
Blame Module Offset: unknown
Application LCID: 1033
Extra app info: Reg=en Loc=0x0409
Crashed thread: 0


Maybe if I back up and then remove all but 'basic fonts'?
Word and Excel were all happy before M.Lion update and I had recently updated 
Office.

Brian




On 29/07/2012, at 1:53 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

Hi Brian,

Do you have Microsoft's AutoUpdate feature enabled?
Service packs and suchlike must be installed through the AutoUpdate channel.

<http://blog.officeformac.com/were-ready-for-mountain-lion>

Cheers,
Ronni


On 29/07/2012, at 1:24 PM, Brian Risbey  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Word and Excel won't open,
> seems to show initial start up where it checks fonts and that is when an 
> error message comes up - trying to update fonts.
> Verified and Repaired permissions, 
> can't see anything in Font Book application that may help.
> 
> Tried Microsoft for Mac upgrade, after downloading Office 2011 1432 Update 
> bypassing the you didn't download this from App Shop (used control key) told 
> the program wasn't on the HD.
> 
> Do I need to reinstall MicroSoft Office 2011 from disk?
> 
> Brian
> 

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Re: Microsoftsoft Office - Word or Excel won't open after OSX 10.8 upgrade

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Brian,

Do you have Microsoft's AutoUpdate feature enabled?
Service packs and suchlike must be installed through the AutoUpdate channel.

<http://blog.officeformac.com/were-ready-for-mountain-lion>

Cheers,
Ronni


On 29/07/2012, at 1:24 PM, Brian Risbey  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Word and Excel won't open,
> seems to show initial start up where it checks fonts and that is when an 
> error message comes up - trying to update fonts.
> Verified and Repaired permissions, 
> can't see anything in Font Book application that may help.
> 
> Tried Microsoft for Mac upgrade, after downloading Office 2011 1432 Update 
> bypassing the you didn't download this from App Shop (used control key) told 
> the program wasn't on the HD.
> 
> Do I need to reinstall MicroSoft Office 2011 from disk?
> 
> Brian
> 

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Microsoftsoft Office - Word or Excel won't open after OSX 10.8 upgrade

[Brian Risbey]

Hi all,
Word and Excel won't open,
seems to show initial start up where it checks fonts and that is when an error 
message comes up - trying to update fonts.
Verified and Repaired permissions, 
can't see anything in Font Book application that may help.

Tried Microsoft for Mac upgrade, after downloading Office 2011 1432 Update 
bypassing the you didn't download this from App Shop (used control key) told 
the program wasn't on the HD.

Do I need to reinstall MicroSoft Office 2011 from disk?

Brian


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Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Severin Crisp]

Bingo, thanks Brian, that is the clue.   Now ALL the date/time formats are 
English (AUS)
Severin

On 01/07/2012, at 10:59 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Hi Severin
> 
> I retried this
> 
> It may be the solution,
> 
> Select text change language and auto insert the date and when swapping from 
> US to Aus English the format did change.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 10:56 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> Just another thought, 
> 
> does ensuring you have Language English (Aus) - Australian - change the date 
> format?
> 
> (May have to select all text before changing Language setting.)
> 
> 
> Word > Menu > Tools > Language… > English (AUS)
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 10:22 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
> Ronni, my problem is that none of the Available Formats (your 2.) are what I 
> want, they are all US not Australian.  This is despite Australian being set 
> and looking good in Date & Time under System Preferences, Office11/Word will 
> not Autralianise.  Excel is fine, you can set a custom dated format, but not 
> that I can get to in Word.  
> Thanks for the detailed response!
> Severin
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 4:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
>> default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
>> Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
>> under Available Formats.
>> 
>> To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
>> date setting to a keystroke combination. 
>> To do this, follow these steps:
>> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
>> 2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to 
>> select the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
>> 3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and 
>> then click New.
>> 4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
>> 5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
>> 6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that 
>> you called your date AutoText entry.
>> 7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in 
>> a keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
>> 8.  Click OK.
>> 
>> 
>> To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
>> follow these steps:
>> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
>> 2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
>> 3.  Click Default, and then click OK.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.7.4 Lion
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
>>> required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
>>> this setting.  
>>> Severin
>>> 
>>> On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Severin,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
>>>> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
>>>> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
>>>> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
>>>> custom.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
>>>> not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find 
>>>> where to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
>>>> Severin Crisp
>>>> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
>>>> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
>>>> 
>>>> Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>>  Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>>  email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>

Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Pete Smith]

Hi Severin.

I don't have Word 11, only Word 8 but I was wondering if setting the language 
to English (UK) might work.

They might think we're the 51st State but they sure as heck know their cousins 
across the lake are definitely not.

Just a thought.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 01/07/2012, at 22:59 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Hi Severin
> 
> I retried this
> 
> It may be the solution,
> 
> Select text change language and auto insert the date and when swapping from 
> US to Aus English the format did change.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 10:56 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> Just another thought, 
> 
> does ensuring you have Language English (Aus) - Australian - change the date 
> format?
> 
> (May have to select all text before changing Language setting.)
> 
> 
> Word > Menu > Tools > Language… > English (AUS)
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 10:22 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
> Ronni, my problem is that none of the Available Formats (your 2.) are what I 
> want, they are all US not Australian.  This is despite Australian being set 
> and looking good in Date & Time under System Preferences, Office11/Word will 
> not Autralianise.  Excel is fine, you can set a custom dated format, but not 
> that I can get to in Word.  
> Thanks for the detailed response!
> Severin
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 4:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
>> default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
>> Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
>> under Available Formats.
>> 
>> To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
>> date setting to a keystroke combination. 
>> To do this, follow these steps:
>> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
>> 2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to 
>> select the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
>> 3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and 
>> then click New.
>> 4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
>> 5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
>> 6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that 
>> you called your date AutoText entry.
>> 7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in 
>> a keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
>> 8.  Click OK.
>> 
>> 
>> To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
>> follow these steps:
>> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
>> 2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
>> 3.  Click Default, and then click OK.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.7.4 Lion
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
>>> required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
>>> this setting.  
>>> Severin
>>> 
>>> On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Severin,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
>>>> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
>>>> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
>>>> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
>>>> custom.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
>>>> not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find 
>>>> where to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
>>>> Severin Crisp
>>>> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
>>>> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
>>>> 
>>>> Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>

Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Severin

I retried this

 It may be the solution,

Select text change language and auto insert the date and when swapping from US 
to Aus English the format did change.

Brian




On 01/07/2012, at 10:56 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

Hi Severin,

Just another thought, 

does ensuring you have Language English (Aus) - Australian - change the date 
format?

(May have to select all text before changing Language setting.)


Word > Menu > Tools > Language… > English (AUS)


Brian


On 01/07/2012, at 10:22 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

Ronni, my problem is that none of the Available Formats (your 2.) are what I 
want, they are all US not Australian.  This is despite Australian being set and 
looking good in Date & Time under System Preferences, Office11/Word will not 
Autralianise.  Excel is fine, you can set a custom dated format, but not that I 
can get to in Word.  
Thanks for the detailed response!
Severin

On 01/07/2012, at 4:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
> default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
> Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
> under Available Formats.
> 
> To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
> date setting to a keystroke combination. 
> To do this, follow these steps:
> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
> 2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to select 
> the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
> 3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and 
> then click New.
> 4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
> 5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
> 6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that 
> you called your date AutoText entry.
> 7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in 
> a keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
> 8.  Click OK.
> 
> 
> To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
> follow these steps:
> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
> 2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
> 3.  Click Default, and then click OK.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.4 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
>> required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
>> this setting.  
>> Severin
>> 
>> On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
>>> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
>>> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
>>> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
>>> custom.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>> 
>>> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
>>> not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find 
>>> where to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
>>> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
>>> 
>>>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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  Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
  email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  

Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Severin,

Just another thought, 

does ensuring you have Language English (Aus) - Australian - change the date 
format?

(May have to select all text before changing Language setting.)


Word > Menu > Tools > Language… > English (AUS)


Brian


On 01/07/2012, at 10:22 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

Ronni, my problem is that none of the Available Formats (your 2.) are what I 
want, they are all US not Australian.  This is despite Australian being set and 
looking good in Date & Time under System Preferences, Office11/Word will not 
Autralianise.  Excel is fine, you can set a custom dated format, but not that I 
can get to in Word.  
Thanks for the detailed response!
Severin

On 01/07/2012, at 4:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
> default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
> Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
> under Available Formats.
> 
> To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
> date setting to a keystroke combination. 
> To do this, follow these steps:
> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
> 2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to select 
> the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
> 3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and 
> then click New.
> 4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
> 5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
> 6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that 
> you called your date AutoText entry.
> 7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in 
> a keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
> 8.  Click OK.
> 
> 
> To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
> follow these steps:
> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
> 2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
> 3.  Click Default, and then click OK.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.4 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
>> required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
>> this setting.  
>> Severin
>> 
>> On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
>>> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
>>> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
>>> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
>>> custom.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>> 
>>> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
>>> not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find 
>>> where to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
>>> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
>>> 
>>>   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  



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Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Severin Crisp]

Ronni, my problem is that none of the Available Formats (your 2.) are what I 
want, they are all US not Australian.  This is despite Australian being set and 
looking good in Date & Time under System Preferences, Office11/Word will not 
Autralianise.  Excel is fine, you can set a custom dated format, but not that I 
can get to in Word.  
Thanks for the detailed response!
Severin

On 01/07/2012, at 4:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
> default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
> Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
> under Available Formats.
> 
> To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
> date setting to a keystroke combination. 
> To do this, follow these steps:
> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
> 2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to select 
> the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
> 3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and 
> then click New.
> 4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
> 5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
> 6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that 
> you called your date AutoText entry.
> 7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in 
> a keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
> 8.  Click OK.
> 
> 
> To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
> follow these steps:
> 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
> 2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
> 3.  Click Default, and then click OK.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
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> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
>> required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
>> this setting.  
>> Severin
>> 
>> On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
>>> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
>>> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
>>> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
>>> custom.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>> 
>>> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
>>> not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find 
>>> where to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
>>> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
>>> 
>>>Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>> Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>> email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
under Available Formats.

To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
date setting to a keystroke combination. 
To do this, follow these steps:
1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to select 
the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and then 
click New.
4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that you 
called your date AutoText entry.
7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in a 
keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
8.  Click OK.


To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
follow these steps:
1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
3.  Click Default, and then click OK.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.4 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

> Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
> required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
> this setting.  
> Severin
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
>> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
>> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
>> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
>> custom.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
>> not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find where 
>> to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
>> Severin Crisp
>> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
>> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
>> 
>> Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>  Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>  email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  












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Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Severin Crisp]

Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
required.  The "custom" box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding this 
setting.  
Severin

On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
> Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
> you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
> the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to custom.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
> The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 not 
> 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find where to 
> do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
> Severin Crisp
> I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
> the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
> 
>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
> 
> 
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Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Severin,

Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
Look in 'Language & Texts' tab
you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to custom.

Brian

On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 not 
30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find where to do 
it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
Severin Crisp
I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in the 
menu bar, but have come to like it. 

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  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Date Format in Word 11

[Severin Crisp]

The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 not 
30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find where to do 
it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
Severin Crisp
I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in the 
menu bar, but have come to like it. 

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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SabPub Malware Infects Unpatched Word and Java Installations

[Ronda Brown]

A warning to any members who have not yet installed the Java Updates.
SabPub Malware Infects Unpatched Word and Java Installations
By Mark H. Anbinder
http://tidbits.com/article/12948

Although security-related updates sometimes introduce other problems, it is 
becoming all the more important to install them quickly regardless. In 
particular, Mac users who haven’t installed Apple’s Java updates for Mac OS X 
10.7 Lion and 10.6 Snow Leopard, and users still using unpatched copies of 
Microsoft Word 2004 and 2008, are vulnerable to recent variants of malware. 
That’s the warning this week from Mac security firm Intego, whose VirusBarrier 
malware definitions dated 12 April 2012 or later can detect and remove these 
variants.

As we wrote in “How to Detect and Protect Against Updated Flashback Malware” (5 
April 2012) and “Apple Releases Flashback Malware Removal Tools” (12 April 
2012), Apple has released updates to its Java software for Lion and Snow 
Leopard that eliminate the Java vulnerabilities and remove the most common 
variants of Flashback, if found. If you haven’t already installed the 
appropriate Java update for your Mac, do so immediately, or disable the Java 
plug-ins in your Web browsers (instructions are in the first article linked 
above). Disabling Java is the best solution for those using versions of Mac OS 
X older than 10.6 Snow Leopard.

Intego says the original SabPub malware exploited the same Java vulnerability 
as Flashback and “seeks to connect to remote command and control servers, 
presumably to harvest information on infected Macs.” A newer version of 
SabPubtakes advantage of a vulnerability in older versions of Microsoft Word to 
infect Macs with the malware.

The company says unpatched versions of Microsoft Word 2004 and Word 2008 are 
vulnerable, but Word 2011 is not. (Microsoft fixed the vulnerability in 2009, 
and it’s telling that the bad guys think it’s worth trying very old 
vulnerabilities to infect users who haven’t kept their software up to date.) In 
addition, Microsoft’s current .docx file format is not vulnerable, just the 
older .doc format. Users of Word 2004 and 2008 users who have installed the 
security update described in Microsoft’s Security Bulletin MS09-009 are not 
vulnerable. If you’re not certain if you have installed that update, run the 
Microsoft AutoUpdate application, typically found in the Microsoft Office 
folder or the Applications folder, and allow it to install any available 
security updates. You may need to install multiple updates sequentially.

And, as always, be careful about opening Word documents — or any attachments, 
really — from unknown sources. The Quick Look feature in Mac OS X (select the 
file and press the Space bar) is probably a safer way to peek inside many 
common file types if you’re uncertain as to what the file might contain.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 13/04/2012, at 8:27 AM, Tim Law wrote:

> Pages also does not seem to handle nested numbered paragraphs as well as Word 
> does. 
> For example  numbering such as 7.18.241 as in my latest tome. 
> Pages will go to the second level, but not the third, yet come to think of 
> it, it handled the imported Word document okay. 


Text Inspector > List > Bullets & Numbering > Tiered Numbers > Start At... 
also note "Indent Level" on the same interface.


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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stuart,

Pages '09 can open MS Word documents.
"Pages makes it simple to share your documents with colleagues and friends. 
You can open Microsoft Word files in Pages and save your Pages documents as 
Word files"

http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 14/04/2012, at 8:19 PM, Stuart Breden  wrote:

> I think time will come when Pages documents will open in MS Word.  Give Apple 
> time.
> 
> Stuart Breden
> PO Box 132
> Kalamunda WA 6926
> Ph: (08) 9257 1577
> Mbl: 0417 053 266
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/04/2012, at 10:28 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:
> 
>> Good evening All,
>> 
>> Thank you Ronni for the link to the article and for Tim's supporting 
>> comments. 
>> 
>> I have to say that if Word does go down I will not miss it terribly although 
>> I do use it due to old habits I guess, but would not call it a 'heap of 
>> junk'! I too find that it is nowadays so bloated that it has become 
>> difficult to learn and to use, and for me it has lost whatever intuitiveness 
>> it ever had. 
>> 
>> In desperation I purchased Pages about a year or so ago and am still testing 
>> it on mostly one or two pages documents. So far so good - a clean, very easy 
>> software to learn and use.
>> 
>> There is also an alternative word processor which I have been using, on and 
>> off, for many years now and have proved to be extremely reliable, Mellel. 
>> Though my word processing requirement these days is very modest, about two 
>> or possibly four pages only, I understand that Mellel is very good for 
>> lengthy articles, reports etc. I would be curious to know how Mellel will 
>> perform in Tim's situation with his 155 page documents and cross references. 
>> 
>> For those curious you can get more info on Mellel at:
>> 
>> http://www.redlers.com/
>> 
>> By the way, Mellel has been on Apple's platform ever since I started using 
>> Macintosh, and that is many long years ago. 
>> 
>> Good night everyone & regards,
>> 
>> Philippe 
>> 
>> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
>> 
>>> A courageous article!!
>>> 
>>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>>> 
>>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page 
>>> report that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to 
>>> send any of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>>> 
>>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
>>> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 12/04/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Death Of Microsoft Word:
>>>> 
>>>> "Microsoft Word is cumbersome, inefficient, and a relic of obsolete 
>>>> assumptions about technology. Tom Scocca believes it's time we all gave it 
>>>> up."
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.watoday.com.au/digital-life/hometech/death-to-microsoft-word-20120412-1wta8.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Stuart Breden]

I think time will come when Pages documents will open in MS Word.  Give Apple 
time.

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On 12/04/2012, at 10:28 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:

> Good evening All,
> 
> Thank you Ronni for the link to the article and for Tim's supporting 
> comments. 
> 
> I have to say that if Word does go down I will not miss it terribly although 
> I do use it due to old habits I guess, but would not call it a 'heap of 
> junk'! I too find that it is nowadays so bloated that it has become difficult 
> to learn and to use, and for me it has lost whatever intuitiveness it ever 
> had. 
> 
> In desperation I purchased Pages about a year or so ago and am still testing 
> it on mostly one or two pages documents. So far so good - a clean, very easy 
> software to learn and use.
> 
> There is also an alternative word processor which I have been using, on and 
> off, for many years now and have proved to be extremely reliable, Mellel. 
> Though my word processing requirement these days is very modest, about two or 
> possibly four pages only, I understand that Mellel is very good for lengthy 
> articles, reports etc. I would be curious to know how Mellel will perform in 
> Tim's situation with his 155 page documents and cross references. 
> 
> For those curious you can get more info on Mellel at:
> 
> http://www.redlers.com/
> 
> By the way, Mellel has been on Apple's platform ever since I started using 
> Macintosh, and that is many long years ago. 
> 
> Good night everyone & regards,
> 
> Philippe 
> 
> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
> 
>> A courageous article!!
>> 
>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>> 
>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page report 
>> that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to send any 
>> of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>> 
>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
>> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 12/04/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Death Of Microsoft Word:
>>> 
>>> "Microsoft Word is cumbersome, inefficient, and a relic of obsolete 
>>> assumptions about technology. Tom Scocca believes it's time we all gave it 
>>> up."
>>> 
>>> <http://www.watoday.com.au/digital-life/hometech/death-to-microsoft-word-20120412-1wta8.html>
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[John Daniels]

Hi Wamuggers

I use Bean which is a free word processor. It opens .doc .docx .odt etc and 
documents can be saved in those formats.

I don't know if it is sufficiently sophisticated for some users but I like it.

Cheers

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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[cm]

Hi James,

As you probably know the Open Office family of products are fairly close clones 
of Microsoft Word before it got the ribbon. They became open source when Sun 
Microsystems purchased the German company that developed them and then tidied 
up the code for about a year and released it to open source. The last time I 
checked, about six months ago, Libre Office seems to be the one to use. The 
principle developers became disenchanted with Open Office and forked the 
project to create Libre Office. The most recent updates of Libre Office are the 
most compatible with MS Word whereas Open Office is becoming all but stagnant. 
Last time I checked Neo Office was a port of Open Office to a more Mac like 
interface.

I use Libre Office from time-to-time when I receive MS Office documents (Word, 
Excel, PowerPoint) that I need to open or when someone requires a document in 
the MS Office format. My first choice is Pages, Numbers, Keynote, but on some 
occasions there are format problems -- and on some occasions neither the iWork 
suite nor Libre Office can handle the formatting.

I somewhat like the Open Office suite but I think they suffer from being too 
much a copy of the MS Office suite. The have worked hard to get ride of some of 
the more annoying parts of MS Office but in my opinion still carry some of the 
baggage. For my own documents I have ported them all from Open Office to iWork.

I can see that you might find advantage in using the Open Office family drawing 
package or for that matter the Maths formula package. At least you can be sure 
that they are stored in a format which will always be recoverable thanks to the 
open nature of the Open Document Format which is used by the suite.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 13/04/2012, at 9:07 , James / Hans Kunz wrote:

> can i have some comments about libre office, open office, neo office? i'm 
> using neo office for my admin & tech drawing work
> James
> 
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> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
> Bayswater WA
> Australia
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> disappear and obstacles vanish.
> 
> On 13/04/2012, at 8:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Pages’09 will open Word Documents, it also can export as Word documents.
>> How are you trying to open the Word documents? 
>> 
>> Try dragging the Word document onto Pages or Right-Click / Control-click  > 
>> Open with…
>> 
>> Select a .doc file in Finder > Menu > Get Info > Open With: > Other > browse 
>> to Pages, inside the iWork folder, inside the Applications folder > Change 
>> All…
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/04/2012, at 8:03 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>> 
>>> Trouble is that no matter how good Pages is, I cannot use it because 
>>> documents will not open in Word ( the latest version), but agree about 
>>> Pages styles.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> A courageous article!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same 
>>>>> AWFUL bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page 
>>>>> report that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail 
>>>>> to send any of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all 
>>>>> links worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and 
>>>>> stylesheets better it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report 
>>>>> writing work. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
>>>> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. 
>>>> I find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>>>

Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Bill Parker]

Ronni

I have Pages 08 so I suppose that's why it doesn't work.  Its the Pages to Word 
that I would need and because the bulk of people I work with use Word I will 
have to stick with that bloat and all!

Bill


On 13/04/2012, at 8:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> Pages’09 will open Word Documents, it also can export as Word documents.
> How are you trying to open the Word documents? 
> 
> Try dragging the Word document onto Pages or Right-Click / Control-click  > 
> Open with…
> 
> Select a .doc file in Finder > Menu > Get Info > Open With: > Other > browse 
> to Pages, inside the iWork folder, inside the Applications folder > Change 
> All…
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2012, at 8:03 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> Trouble is that no matter how good Pages is, I cannot use it because 
>> documents will not open in Word ( the latest version), but agree about Pages 
>> styles.
>> 
>> Bill
>> On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A courageous article!!
>>>> 
>>>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>>>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>>>> 
>>>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page 
>>>> report that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to 
>>>> send any of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>>>> 
>>>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>>>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets 
>>>> better it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
>>> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. 
>>> I find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>> 
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[James / Hans Kunz]

can i have some comments about libre office, open office, neo office? i'm using 
neo office for my admin & tech drawing work
James

SAD Technic
U3 6 Chalkley Pl
Bayswater WA
Australia
+618 9370 5307
mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
sad...@iinet.net.au
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/

Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
disappear and obstacles vanish.

On 13/04/2012, at 8:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> Pages’09 will open Word Documents, it also can export as Word documents.
> How are you trying to open the Word documents? 
> 
> Try dragging the Word document onto Pages or Right-Click / Control-click  > 
> Open with…
> 
> Select a .doc file in Finder > Menu > Get Info > Open With: > Other > browse 
> to Pages, inside the iWork folder, inside the Applications folder > Change 
> All…
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2012, at 8:03 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> Trouble is that no matter how good Pages is, I cannot use it because 
>> documents will not open in Word ( the latest version), but agree about Pages 
>> styles.
>> 
>> Bill
>> On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A courageous article!!
>>>> 
>>>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>>>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>>>> 
>>>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page 
>>>> report that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to 
>>>> send any of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>>>> 
>>>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>>>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets 
>>>> better it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
>>> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. 
>>> I find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>> 
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Tim,

I understand your frustration coming from using Word to Pages. I’ve never used 
Word, but still have not mastered Pages even though I really like Pages App and 
all the iWork applications :-) I need to spend much more time learning Pages.

Have you downloaded the “Pages’09 User Guide PDF” It does explain Styles fairly 
well in Chapter 6: Working with Styles.
<http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Pages09_UserGuide.pdf>

I find this site helpful: 
<http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=5293fc0cdd40cc0d9242776c8070e83f&mforum=iworktipsntrick>

<http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/>

Also I have a 13 page 'Pages ’09 Basics' PDF from Florida Center For 
Instructional Technology, which you might find helpful.
If you want a copy let me know and I’ll email the PDF to you ‘Offlist’, it is 
845KB file size.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 13/04/2012, at 8:27 AM, Tim Law wrote:

> Okay Peter and Bill, Thanks for the prompts
> 
> Looks like I'll need to take a deep breath and see if I can become 
> comfortable with Pages styles and paragraph management.
> 
> I think what I miss is the ability to type in numbers to define the style as 
> in Word. 
> In Pages, it seems that you have to create a paragraph layout according to 
> what you want, then save it as a style. 
> 
> Pages also does not seem to handle nested numbered paragraphs as well as Word 
> does. 
> For example  numbering such as 7.18.241 as in my latest tome. 
> Pages will go to the second level, but not the third, yet come to think of 
> it, it handled the imported Word document okay. 
> 
> And when I copied the paragraph style, and pasted it into another paragraph, 
> it reset the counting to 1, instead of following on - which was the preset. 
> With Word, a right click here or there will open up various options menus 
> where things can be fixed up, not so obvious in Pages.  
> 
> Maybe this is all possible, and in a flurry I have missed some important set 
> up files, but aghast as it sounds, Word seems to work better and in the 
> middle of large reporting documents, the last thing I need is to have to 
> fiddle with getting the formatting right. 
> 
> I don't like how Word requires an 'Update all fields" now and again to 
> renumber all the paragraph links and table of contents, whereas Pages does 
> this automatically, or by clicking in the TOC. That bit is much nicer. And of 
> course the way Pages exports to PDF with all the internal hot links 
> maintained - Word has never done that well. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
>> 
>>> A courageous article!!
>>> 
>>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>>> 
>>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page 
>>> report that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to 
>>> send any of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>>> 
>>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
>>> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>> 
>> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
>> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. I 
>> find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
>> 
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>> 
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Tim Law]

Okay Peter and Bill, Thanks for the prompts

Looks like I'll need to take a deep breath and see if I can become comfortable 
with Pages styles and paragraph management.

I think what I miss is the ability to type in numbers to define the style as in 
Word. 
In Pages, it seems that you have to create a paragraph layout according to what 
you want, then save it as a style. 

Pages also does not seem to handle nested numbered paragraphs as well as Word 
does. 
For example  numbering such as 7.18.241 as in my latest tome. 
Pages will go to the second level, but not the third, yet come to think of it, 
it handled the imported Word document okay. 

And when I copied the paragraph style, and pasted it into another paragraph, it 
reset the counting to 1, instead of following on - which was the preset. 
With Word, a right click here or there will open up various options menus where 
things can be fixed up, not so obvious in Pages.  

Maybe this is all possible, and in a flurry I have missed some important set up 
files, but aghast as it sounds, Word seems to work better and in the middle of 
large reporting documents, the last thing I need is to have to fiddle with 
getting the formatting right. 

I don't like how Word requires an 'Update all fields" now and again to renumber 
all the paragraph links and table of contents, whereas Pages does this 
automatically, or by clicking in the TOC. That bit is much nicer. And of course 
the way Pages exports to PDF with all the internal hot links maintained - Word 
has never done that well. 

Tim



On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

> 
> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
> 
>> A courageous article!!
>> 
>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>> 
>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page report 
>> that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to send any 
>> of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>> 
>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
>> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
> 
> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. I 
> find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
> 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Bill,

Pages’09 will open Word Documents, it also can export as Word documents.
How are you trying to open the Word documents? 

Try dragging the Word document onto Pages or Right-Click / Control-click  > 
Open with…

Select a .doc file in Finder > Menu > Get Info > Open With: > Other > browse to 
Pages, inside the iWork folder, inside the Applications folder > Change All…

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.3 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)





On 13/04/2012, at 8:03 AM, Bill Parker wrote:

> Trouble is that no matter how good Pages is, I cannot use it because 
> documents will not open in Word ( the latest version), but agree about Pages 
> styles.
> 
> Bill
> On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
>> 
>>> A courageous article!!
>>> 
>>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>>> 
>>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page 
>>> report that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to 
>>> send any of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>>> 
>>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
>>> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>> 
>> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
>> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. I 
>> find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
>> 
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>> 
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Bill Parker]

Trouble is that no matter how good Pages is, I cannot use it because documents 
will not open in Word ( the latest version), but agree about Pages styles.

Bill
On 13/04/2012, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

> 
> On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:
> 
>> A courageous article!!
>> 
>> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
>> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
>> 
>> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page report 
>> that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to send any 
>> of the hot links into the PDF format. 
>> 
>> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
>> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
>> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
> 
> Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the 
> things I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. I 
> find Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.
> 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:

> A courageous article!!
> 
> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
> 
> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page report 
> that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to send any 
> of the hot links into the PDF format. 
> 
> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
> 
> Tim
> 

Funny, isn't it? If there's one thing that I had to pick out of all the things 
I prefer in Pages over Word, it would be the way it handles styles. I find 
Pages' way of doing it so much easier and more intuitive.


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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Philippe Chaperon]

Good evening All,

Thank you Ronni for the link to the article and for Tim's supporting comments. 

I have to say that if Word does go down I will not miss it terribly although I 
do use it due to old habits I guess, but would not call it a 'heap of junk'! I 
too find that it is nowadays so bloated that it has become difficult to learn 
and to use, and for me it has lost whatever intuitiveness it ever had. 

In desperation I purchased Pages about a year or so ago and am still testing it 
on mostly one or two pages documents. So far so good - a clean, very easy 
software to learn and use.

There is also an alternative word processor which I have been using, on and 
off, for many years now and have proved to be extremely reliable, Mellel. 
Though my word processing requirement these days is very modest, about two or 
possibly four pages only, I understand that Mellel is very good for lengthy 
articles, reports etc. I would be curious to know how Mellel will perform in 
Tim's situation with his 155 page documents and cross references. 

For those curious you can get more info on Mellel at:

http://www.redlers.com/

By the way, Mellel has been on Apple's platform ever since I started using 
Macintosh, and that is many long years ago. 

Good night everyone & regards,

Philippe 

On 12/04/2012, at 9:07 AM, Tim law wrote:

> A courageous article!!
> 
> Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
> bloated toolbars of the PC version. 
> 
> Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page report 
> that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to send any 
> of the hot links into the PDF format. 
> 
> I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
> worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
> it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12/04/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Death Of Microsoft Word:
>> 
>> "Microsoft Word is cumbersome, inefficient, and a relic of obsolete 
>> assumptions about technology. Tom Scocca believes it's time we all gave it 
>> up."
>> 
>> <http://www.watoday.com.au/digital-life/hometech/death-to-microsoft-word-20120412-1wta8.html>
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
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Re: Death Of Microsoft Word

[Tim law]

A courageous article!!

Fortunately the OSX version I use, 12 I think, doesn't have the same AWFUL 
bloated toolbars of the PC version. 

Where Word failed for me this week was when I tried to PDF a 155 page report 
that included a lot of internal cross reference links. Epic fail to send any of 
the hot links into the PDF format. 

I opened the document in OSX Pages, saved it as a PDF and voila, all links 
worked properly when PDF'd. If only Pages did styles and stylesheets better 
it'd be an able replacement for Word for my report writing work. 

Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 12/04/2012, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Death Of Microsoft Word:
> 
> "Microsoft Word is cumbersome, inefficient, and a relic of obsolete 
> assumptions about technology. Tom Scocca believes it's time we all gave it 
> up."
> 
> <http://www.watoday.com.au/digital-life/hometech/death-to-microsoft-word-20120412-1wta8.html>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
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Death Of Microsoft Word

[Ronda Brown]

Death Of Microsoft Word:

"Microsoft Word is cumbersome, inefficient, and a relic of obsolete assumptions 
about technology. Tom Scocca believes it's time we all gave it up."

<http://www.watoday.com.au/digital-life/hometech/death-to-microsoft-word-20120412-1wta8.html>

Cheers,
Ronni
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Re: Editing word docs on iPad

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Adrian,

QuickOffice Pro HD for iPad which you have installed is a suite of Office type 
apps and has full in-app Dropbox integration. 
<http://www.quickoffice.com/quickoffice_pro_hd_ipad/>

<http://support.quickoffice.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=450>

Pages lets you send the doc as an email. 
Send it to yourself then in your email open the attachment and it can then be 
saved to Dropbox.

There is a way though without emailing...….

You need to create a DropDAV account and then use the WebDAV option to upload 
the file straight to your Dropbox.

The solution is semi complex and inelegant. To save documents from Pages to 
your dropbox, right on your iPad:

• Sign up for DropDAV. <https://dropdav.com/signup> If you have a free 
dropbox account, your DropDAV account will also be free.
• Once you’ve signed up, open Pages on your iPad. Click the little 
“Save” icon below a document in Pages overview mode.
• Now select “WebDAV”. You’ll be shown a login page. Type in 
<https://dav.dropdav.com> , then your dropbox login and password.
• If you logged in correctly, you can now save the Pages document to 
your dropbox, even overwrite the version stored there if the filename is the 
same.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 03/04/2012, at 1:33 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
> 
> It is likely that QuickOffice will eventually support iCloud at which point 
> the whole process should become easier. Until then you might need a few extra 
> steps to keep documents in sync.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> On 03/04/2012, at 13:28 , Adrian Skehan wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni!
>> 
>> When I downloaded QuickOffice I was looking at the HD version but finished 
>> up with the Pro version which appears to be the iPhone one but it appeared 
>> on the iPad anyway.  Following your link I have now downloaded the iPad 
>> version which is working OK. as far as it goes.  My first frustration with 
>> it is documents I open are Read Only on the iPad but not on the computer, I 
>> guess I have a lot more practice to do before I getting any sort of control 
>> over of it. 
>> 
>> At first glance the whole process of transferring files seems to be vert 
>> clumsy, hopefully it will improve with time.
>> 
>> Sorry for the delay in responding but my internet has been off and on all 
>> day which has been most annoying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/04/2012, at 11:55 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Ronni!
>>> 
>>> I got most of that but "tap My Documents" has me stumped as I don't seem to 
>>> have such a folder on the iPad and while I can put files on the iPad vis 
>>> iTunes and find them in Pages when I open it, I cant transfer a new or 
>>> imported document to the computer other than vis e-mail.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
>>> adrianske...@me.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/04/2012, at 10:32 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Adrian,
>>>> 
>>>> In Dropbox there is an "Open In" button that lets you send imported 
>>>> documents to Pages or iBooks or other apps you have installed.
>>>> Select the document in Dropbox, then in the Menu bar there is a ‘curved 
>>>> arrow’ on far right . Click on the arrow ‘Open In’ Pages.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you’ve done this, Pages imports the document and displays a message 
>>>> listing any changes made during the process, such as font replacements.
>>>> 
>>>> After editing a document in Pages, you must export it before you can open 
>>>> it in Word on your Mac. 
>>>> To do this, tap My Documents (with your iPad in portrait orientation) and 
>>>> then tap the arrow icon under the document’s name. 
>>>> 
>>>> To e-mail the document to yourself, tap Send Via Mail, and then Word. 
>>>> To transfer it via iTunes, tap Export, and then Word. 
>>>> Attach your iPad to your Mac with a USB cable, open iTunes, select your 
>>>> iPad, and click on the Apps tab. 
>>>> Select Pages in the list under File Sharing, and then drag the exported 
>>>> document to your Desktop.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>>> 

Re: Editing word docs on iPad

[cm]

Hi Adrian,

It is likely that QuickOffice will eventually support iCloud at which point the 
whole process should become easier. Until then you might need a few extra steps 
to keep documents in sync.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 03/04/2012, at 13:28 , Adrian Skehan wrote:

> Hi Ronni!
> 
> When I downloaded QuickOffice I was looking at the HD version but finished up 
> with the Pro version which appears to be the iPhone one but it appeared on 
> the iPad anyway.  Following your link I have now downloaded the iPad version 
> which is working OK. as far as it goes.  My first frustration with it is 
> documents I open are Read Only on the iPad but not on the computer, I guess I 
> have a lot more practice to do before I getting any sort of control over of 
> it. 
> 
> At first glance the whole process of transferring files seems to be vert 
> clumsy, hopefully it will improve with time.
> 
> Sorry for the delay in responding but my internet has been off and on all day 
> which has been most annoying.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/04/2012, at 11:55 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ronni!
>> 
>> I got most of that but "tap My Documents" has me stumped as I don't seem to 
>> have such a folder on the iPad and while I can put files on the iPad vis 
>> iTunes and find them in Pages when I open it, I cant transfer a new or 
>> imported document to the computer other than vis e-mail.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/04/2012, at 10:32 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>> 
>>> In Dropbox there is an "Open In" button that lets you send imported 
>>> documents to Pages or iBooks or other apps you have installed.
>>> Select the document in Dropbox, then in the Menu bar there is a ‘curved 
>>> arrow’ on far right . Click on the arrow ‘Open In’ Pages.
>>> 
>>> Once you’ve done this, Pages imports the document and displays a message 
>>> listing any changes made during the process, such as font replacements.
>>> 
>>> After editing a document in Pages, you must export it before you can open 
>>> it in Word on your Mac. 
>>> To do this, tap My Documents (with your iPad in portrait orientation) and 
>>> then tap the arrow icon under the document’s name. 
>>> 
>>> To e-mail the document to yourself, tap Send Via Mail, and then Word. 
>>> To transfer it via iTunes, tap Export, and then Word. 
>>> Attach your iPad to your Mac with a USB cable, open iTunes, select your 
>>> iPad, and click on the Apps tab. 
>>> Select Pages in the list under File Sharing, and then drag the exported 
>>> document to your Desktop.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>> 
>>> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/04/2012, at 9:57 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Good morning all!
>>>> 
>>>> I have downloaded QuickOffice Pro thinking that I could edit Word 
>>>> documents but I can't see any way of opening an existing document 
>>>> (contained in DropBox) and creating a new doc. is only in iPhone size.  
>>>> Neither can I see a way of importing a word doc into Pages.  I will be 
>>>> grateful if someone could point me in the right direction pleas.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian
>>>> 
>>>> adrianske...@me.com
>>>> 
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Re: Editing word docs on iPad

[Adrian Skehan]

Hi Ronni!

When I downloaded QuickOffice I was looking at the HD version but finished up 
with the Pro version which appears to be the iPhone one but it appeared on the 
iPad anyway.  Following your link I have now downloaded the iPad version which 
is working OK. as far as it goes.  My first frustration with it is documents I 
open are Read Only on the iPad but not on the computer, I guess I have a lot 
more practice to do before I getting any sort of control over of it. 

At first glance the whole process of transferring files seems to be vert 
clumsy, hopefully it will improve with time.

Sorry for the delay in responding but my internet has been off and on all day 
which has been most annoying.




Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 03/04/2012, at 11:55 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

> Thanks Ronni!
> 
> I got most of that but "tap My Documents" has me stumped as I don't seem to 
> have such a folder on the iPad and while I can put files on the iPad vis 
> iTunes and find them in Pages when I open it, I cant transfer a new or 
> imported document to the computer other than vis e-mail.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/04/2012, at 10:32 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Adrian,
>> 
>> In Dropbox there is an "Open In" button that lets you send imported 
>> documents to Pages or iBooks or other apps you have installed.
>> Select the document in Dropbox, then in the Menu bar there is a ‘curved 
>> arrow’ on far right . Click on the arrow ‘Open In’ Pages.
>> 
>> Once you’ve done this, Pages imports the document and displays a message 
>> listing any changes made during the process, such as font replacements.
>> 
>> After editing a document in Pages, you must export it before you can open it 
>> in Word on your Mac. 
>> To do this, tap My Documents (with your iPad in portrait orientation) and 
>> then tap the arrow icon under the document’s name. 
>> 
>> To e-mail the document to yourself, tap Send Via Mail, and then Word. 
>> To transfer it via iTunes, tap Export, and then Word. 
>> Attach your iPad to your Mac with a USB cable, open iTunes, select your 
>> iPad, and click on the Apps tab. 
>> Select Pages in the list under File Sharing, and then drag the exported 
>> document to your Desktop.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/04/2012, at 9:57 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
>> 
>>> Good morning all!
>>> 
>>> I have downloaded QuickOffice Pro thinking that I could edit Word documents 
>>> but I can't see any way of opening an existing document (contained in 
>>> DropBox) and creating a new doc. is only in iPhone size.  Neither can I see 
>>> a way of importing a word doc into Pages.  I will be grateful if someone 
>>> could point me in the right direction pleas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
>>> adrianske...@me.com
>>> 
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Re: Editing word docs on iPad

[Adrian Skehan]

Thanks Ronni!

I got most of that but "tap My Documents" has me stumped as I don't seem to 
have such a folder on the iPad and while I can put files on the iPad vis iTunes 
and find them in Pages when I open it, I cant transfer a new or imported 
document to the computer other than vis e-mail.


Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 03/04/2012, at 10:32 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
> 
> In Dropbox there is an "Open In" button that lets you send imported documents 
> to Pages or iBooks or other apps you have installed.
> Select the document in Dropbox, then in the Menu bar there is a ‘curved 
> arrow’ on far right . Click on the arrow ‘Open In’ Pages.
> 
> Once you’ve done this, Pages imports the document and displays a message 
> listing any changes made during the process, such as font replacements.
> 
> After editing a document in Pages, you must export it before you can open it 
> in Word on your Mac. 
> To do this, tap My Documents (with your iPad in portrait orientation) and 
> then tap the arrow icon under the document’s name. 
> 
> To e-mail the document to yourself, tap Send Via Mail, and then Word. 
> To transfer it via iTunes, tap Export, and then Word. 
> Attach your iPad to your Mac with a USB cable, open iTunes, select your iPad, 
> and click on the Apps tab. 
> Select Pages in the list under File Sharing, and then drag the exported 
> document to your Desktop.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> On 03/04/2012, at 9:57 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
> 
>> Good morning all!
>> 
>> I have downloaded QuickOffice Pro thinking that I could edit Word documents 
>> but I can't see any way of opening an existing document (contained in 
>> DropBox) and creating a new doc. is only in iPhone size.  Neither can I see 
>> a way of importing a word doc into Pages.  I will be grateful if someone 
>> could point me in the right direction pleas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
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Re: Editing word docs on iPad

[Ronda Brown]

Hi again Adrian,

I just noticed you mentioned " is only in iPhone size"? Did you download the 
iPad versions of Dropbox and Quickoffice Pro HD for iPad not the iPhone 
versions?

Dropbox for iPad on my iPad opens full size. 
https://www.dropbox.com/ipad

Quickoffice Pro HD for iPad
<http://www.quickoffice.com/quickoffice_pro_hd_ipad/>

Their support answers most questions on how to use the app.
<http://support.quickoffice.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=450>

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 03/04/2012, at 10:32 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
> 
> In Dropbox there is an "Open In" button that lets you send imported documents 
> to Pages or iBooks or other apps you have installed.
> Select the document in Dropbox, then in the Menu bar there is a ‘curved 
> arrow’ on far right . Click on the arrow ‘Open In’ Pages.
> 
> Once you’ve done this, Pages imports the document and displays a message 
> listing any changes made during the process, such as font replacements.
> 
> After editing a document in Pages, you must export it before you can open it 
> in Word on your Mac. 
> To do this, tap My Documents (with your iPad in portrait orientation) and 
> then tap the arrow icon under the document’s name. 
> 
> To e-mail the document to yourself, tap Send Via Mail, and then Word. 
> To transfer it via iTunes, tap Export, and then Word. 
> Attach your iPad to your Mac with a USB cable, open iTunes, select your iPad, 
> and click on the Apps tab. 
> Select Pages in the list under File Sharing, and then drag the exported 
> document to your Desktop.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> On 03/04/2012, at 9:57 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
> 
>> Good morning all!
>> 
>> I have downloaded QuickOffice Pro thinking that I could edit Word documents 
>> but I can't see any way of opening an existing document (contained in 
>> DropBox) and creating a new doc. is only in iPhone size.  Neither can I see 
>> a way of importing a word doc into Pages.  I will be grateful if someone 
>> could point me in the right direction pleas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
> 
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Re: Editing word docs on iPad

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Adrian,

In Dropbox there is an "Open In" button that lets you send imported documents 
to Pages or iBooks or other apps you have installed.
Select the document in Dropbox, then in the Menu bar there is a ‘curved arrow’ 
on far right . Click on the arrow ‘Open In’ Pages.

Once you’ve done this, Pages imports the document and displays a message 
listing any changes made during the process, such as font replacements.

After editing a document in Pages, you must export it before you can open it in 
Word on your Mac. 
To do this, tap My Documents (with your iPad in portrait orientation) and then 
tap the arrow icon under the document’s name. 

To e-mail the document to yourself, tap Send Via Mail, and then Word. 
To transfer it via iTunes, tap Export, and then Word. 
Attach your iPad to your Mac with a USB cable, open iTunes, select your iPad, 
and click on the Apps tab. 
Select Pages in the list under File Sharing, and then drag the exported 
document to your Desktop.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.3 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 03/04/2012, at 9:57 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

> Good morning all!
> 
> I have downloaded QuickOffice Pro thinking that I could edit Word documents 
> but I can't see any way of opening an existing document (contained in 
> DropBox) and creating a new doc. is only in iPhone size.  Neither can I see a 
> way of importing a word doc into Pages.  I will be grateful if someone could 
> point me in the right direction pleas.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 

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Editing word docs on iPad

[Adrian Skehan]

Good morning all!

I have downloaded QuickOffice Pro thinking that I could edit Word documents but 
I can't see any way of opening an existing document (contained in DropBox) and 
creating a new doc. is only in iPhone size.  Neither can I see a way of 
importing a word doc into Pages.  I will be grateful if someone could point me 
in the right direction pleas.




Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




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Re: MS Word used to deliver Mac trojan

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Carlo & 'MUGites,

I had read earlier in the week, possibly in 'Naked Security - Sophos' news 
letter, that Microsoft had patched this weakness. Microsoft Security TechCenter 
seems to confirm this at:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/MS09-027

Without wanting to spread panic, I think that we as Mac users must now learn to 
be cautious and apply safety rules meticulously. 

Have a nice weekend all,

Philippe 

On 30/03/2012, at 1:04 AM, cm wrote:

> Hi 'MUGites,
> 
> If you run Microsoft Word beware of opening unsourced Word documents. A new 
> attack targeting Mac users relies on them opening a Word document that 
> exploits a flaw in MS Word to install a trojan on their machine.
> 
> Here is the summary for a news aggregator site that I follow:
> 
> "Welcome to the age of targeted attacks, Mac users. Perhaps having grown 
> tired of owning Windows machines around the world for the last few years, 
> attackers have now taken up the challenge of going after Macs with the same 
> kind of targeted attack tactics that have served them so well in the Windows 
> world. Researchers have found a new attack that employs two separate pieces 
> of malware, a malicious Word document and some techniques for maintaining 
> persistence on compromised machines, and the campaign is specifically 
> targeted at Mac users. The command-and-control domain involved in the attack 
> is located in China and the attack exploits a three-year-old vulnerability in 
> the way that Office for Mac handles certain Word files, according to 
> researchers at AlienVault, who discovered and analyzed the attacks."
> 
> and here are the two articles linked in the summary:
> 
> https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/maccontrol-trojan-being-used-targeted-attacks-against-os-x-users-032812
> 
> http://labs.alienvault.com/labs/index.php/2012/ms-office-exploit-that-targets-macos-x-seen-in-the-wild-delivers-mac-control-rat/
> 
> The articles do not say if the vulnerability has been patched in later 
> version of MS Word.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
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MS Word used to deliver Mac trojan

[cm]

Hi 'MUGites,

If you run Microsoft Word beware of opening unsourced Word documents. A new 
attack targeting Mac users relies on them opening a Word document that exploits 
a flaw in MS Word to install a trojan on their machine.

Here is the summary for a news aggregator site that I follow:

"Welcome to the age of targeted attacks, Mac users. Perhaps having grown tired 
of owning Windows machines around the world for the last few years, attackers 
have now taken up the challenge of going after Macs with the same kind of 
targeted attack tactics that have served them so well in the Windows world. 
Researchers have found a new attack that employs two separate pieces of 
malware, a malicious Word document and some techniques for maintaining 
persistence on compromised machines, and the campaign is specifically targeted 
at Mac users. The command-and-control domain involved in the attack is located 
in China and the attack exploits a three-year-old vulnerability in the way that 
Office for Mac handles certain Word files, according to researchers at 
AlienVault, who discovered and analyzed the attacks."

and here are the two articles linked in the summary:

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/maccontrol-trojan-being-used-targeted-attacks-against-os-x-users-032812

http://labs.alienvault.com/labs/index.php/2012/ms-office-exploit-that-targets-macos-x-seen-in-the-wild-delivers-mac-control-rat/

The articles do not say if the vulnerability has been patched in later version 
of MS Word.

Cheers,
Carlo
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Re: Blank page on opening Word

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks, Ronni.  I thought that was probably the situation.  Thanks for that 
simple script, I will incorporate it into my processes.  
Regards as ever
Severin


On 12/02/2012, at 11:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Sorry Severin,
> 
> I misunderstood your email ;-) TextEdit also opens with a blank page, it is 
> how the programs are designed & is in compliance with Apple's OS X guidelines 
> for software of its type.
> 
> There is a AppleScript here that open’s Word 2008 for Mac and then closes the 
> automatically spawned blank document.
> To stop a blank document on opening Word 2008
> <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/tr-dojo-challenge-how-do-you-open-word-2008-for-mac-without-opening-a-blank-document/1518>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 12/02/2012, at 10:44 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Ronni, but that is not quite what I mean.   More often than not I 
>> either want to open an existing document or one of my own templates.  It is 
>> only a little thing but I find it annoying to always have a blank "Normal", 
>> even if it is my own doctored one,  open each time to be immediately closed. 
>>
>> Severin
>> 
>> On 12/02/2012, at 5:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> The default template (Normal.dot), based on new documents that contain 
>>> unwanted content. Delete the default template (Normal.dot), so that Word 
>>> automatically creates a new default template (Normal.dot "can create new).
>>> 
>>> 1.Quit Word. 
>>> 
>>> 2. In the Finder: / Users / username / Library / Application Support / 
>>> Microsoft / Office / User Templates, and then drag the file "Normal.dot" in 
>>> the trash. 
>>> 
>>> 3.When you open Word the next time it starts a new default template 
>>> (Normal.dot ") is created. In this new template-based documents are blank. 
>>> 
>>> Note The term used in new documents based on the format defined in a 
>>> template settings.
>>> If you use any other template, the settings for new documents are based on 
>>> the Normal.dot
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>> 
>>> On 12/02/2012, at 5:22 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there a setting in Word 2008 that inhibits opening a blank page when 
>>>> Word opens?   I can not find it anywhere.  Maybe it does not exist.  
>>>> Severin Crisp
>>>> 
>>>>Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>>15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>> Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>> email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>>>> 
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Re: Blank page on opening Word

[Ronda Brown]

Sorry Severin,

I misunderstood your email ;-) TextEdit also opens with a blank page, it is how 
the programs are designed & is in compliance with Apple's OS X guidelines for 
software of its type.

There is a AppleScript here that open’s Word 2008 for Mac and then closes the 
automatically spawned blank document.
To stop a blank document on opening Word 2008
<http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/tr-dojo-challenge-how-do-you-open-word-2008-for-mac-without-opening-a-blank-document/1518>

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 12/02/2012, at 10:44 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

> Thanks, Ronni, but that is not quite what I mean.   More often than not I 
> either want to open an existing document or one of my own templates.  It is 
> only a little thing but I find it annoying to always have a blank "Normal", 
> even if it is my own doctored one,  open each time to be immediately closed.  
>   
> Severin
> 
> On 12/02/2012, at 5:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> The default template (Normal.dot), based on new documents that contain 
>> unwanted content. Delete the default template (Normal.dot), so that Word 
>> automatically creates a new default template (Normal.dot "can create new).
>> 
>> 1.Quit Word. 
>> 
>> 2. In the Finder: / Users / username / Library / Application Support / 
>> Microsoft / Office / User Templates, and then drag the file "Normal.dot" in 
>> the trash. 
>> 
>> 3.When you open Word the next time it starts a new default template 
>> (Normal.dot ") is created. In this new template-based documents are blank. 
>> 
>> Note The term used in new documents based on the format defined in a 
>> template settings.
>> If you use any other template, the settings for new documents are based on 
>> the Normal.dot
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>> 
>> On 12/02/2012, at 5:22 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there a setting in Word 2008 that inhibits opening a blank page when 
>>> Word opens?   I can not find it anywhere.  Maybe it does not exist.  
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>  Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>  email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>>> 
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Re: Blank page on opening Word

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks, Ronni, but that is not quite what I mean.   More often than not I 
either want to open an existing document or one of my own templates.  It is 
only a little thing but I find it annoying to always have a blank "Normal", 
even if it is my own doctored one,  open each time to be immediately closed.
Severin

On 12/02/2012, at 5:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> The default template (Normal.dot), based on new documents that contain 
> unwanted content. Delete the default template (Normal.dot), so that Word 
> automatically creates a new default template (Normal.dot "can create new).
> 
> 1.Quit Word. 
> 
> 2. In the Finder: / Users / username / Library / Application Support / 
> Microsoft / Office / User Templates, and then drag the file "Normal.dot" in 
> the trash. 
> 
> 3.When you open Word the next time it starts a new default template 
> (Normal.dot ") is created. In this new template-based documents are blank. 
> 
> Note The term used in new documents based on the format defined in a template 
> settings.
> If you use any other template, the settings for new documents are based on 
> the Normal.dot
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 12/02/2012, at 5:22 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> Is there a setting in Word 2008 that inhibits opening a blank page when Word 
>> opens?   I can not find it anywhere.  Maybe it does not exist.  
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>> 
>> 
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Re: Blank page on opening Word

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

The default template (Normal.dot), based on new documents that contain unwanted 
content. Delete the default template (Normal.dot), so that Word automatically 
creates a new default template (Normal.dot "can create new).

1.Quit Word. 

2. In the Finder: / Users / username / Library / Application Support / 
Microsoft / Office / User Templates, and then drag the file "Normal.dot" in the 
trash. 

3.When you open Word the next time it starts a new default template (Normal.dot 
") is created. In this new template-based documents are blank. 

Note The term used in new documents based on the format defined in a template 
settings.
 If you use any other template, the settings for new documents are based on the 
Normal.dot

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 12/02/2012, at 5:22 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

> Is there a setting in Word 2008 that inhibits opening a blank page when Word 
> opens?   I can not find it anywhere.  Maybe it does not exist.  
> Severin Crisp
> 
>   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
> 
> 
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Blank page on opening Word

[Severin Crisp]

Is there a setting in Word 2008 that inhibits opening a blank page when Word 
opens?   I can not find it anywhere.  Maybe it does not exist.  
Severin Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
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Re: Word Perfect

[Neil Houghton]

I have a lot of old Wordperfect documents archived which I am not likely to
need to open - but occasionally I want to refer to them.

I found WordPerfect Spotlight & Quick Look Plug-ins
<http://homepage.mac.com/herr/>

This allows spotlight to search the files and gives quicklook the ability to
view the files - this is just the best solution for me - select the file and
press the spacebar and browse away :o)

It was at version 3 when I installed it - and it worked perfectly (and still
does) - however I see it is now at version 3.5 so don't know what the
difference might be.

Did I mention it's FREE :o)


Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
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on 5/2/12 5:23 PM, Severin Crisp at sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> Thanks Philipe, that did the trick.
> Severin
> 
> On 05/02/2012, at 5:09 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:
> 
>> Hi Severin and All,
>> 
>> There is a utility called WordPerfect Viewer ($9.99) which is available on
>> the Apple Apps Store. I believe this will do what you want.
>> 
>> Not sure if there is a free utility, but I understand you can use NeoOffice
>> suite if you do have it already to open then file the document in whichever
>> format you need.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> On 05/02/2012, at 4:40 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long
>>> time acquaintance has done this to me!
>>> Severin  Crisp
>>> 
>>>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>>> 
>>> 
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>Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
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> Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
> email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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Re: Word Perfect

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks Philipe, that did the trick.
Severin

On 05/02/2012, at 5:09 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:

> Hi Severin and All,
> 
> There is a utility called WordPerfect Viewer ($9.99) which is available on 
> the Apple Apps Store. I believe this will do what you want. 
> 
> Not sure if there is a free utility, but I understand you can use NeoOffice 
> suite if you do have it already to open then file the document in whichever 
> format you need.  
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Philippe
> 
> On 05/02/2012, at 4:40 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long 
>> time acquaintance has done this to me!
>> Severin  Crisp
>> 
>>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>> 
>> 
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Re: Word Perfect

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

OpenOffice.org (free) opens old WordPerfect (.wpd) files.
http://www.openoffice.org/

Cheers,
Ronni

On 05/02/2012, at 5:09 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:

> Hi Severin and All,
> 
> There is a utility called WordPerfect Viewer ($9.99) which is available on 
> the Apple Apps Store. I believe this will do what you want. 
> 
> Not sure if there is a free utility, but I understand you can use NeoOffice 
> suite if you do have it already to open then file the document in whichever 
> format you need.  
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Philippe
> 
> On 05/02/2012, at 4:40 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long 
>> time acquaintance has done this to me!
>> Severin  Crisp
>> 
>>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>> 
>> 

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Re: Word Perfect

[Severin Crisp]

I found that and tried it.  Converted but much garbage included.  
Thanks
Severin

On 05/02/2012, at 5:07 PM, Peder Kristensen wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> Try this:
> 
> Opening/Editing –
> 
> 1. Open Microsoft Word
> 2. Click File
> 3. Click Open
> 4. In the Files of Type: dropdown box change to All Files (*.*)
> 5. Browse to the file
> 6. Click it and select OK
> 7. It should perform the conversion
> 
> Cheers,
> Peder
> 
> On 05/02/2012, at 16:40 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long 
>> time acquaintance has done this to me!
>> Severin  Crisp
>> 
>>  Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>  15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>>   Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>   email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
>> 
>> 
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Re: Word Perfect

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Severin and All,

There is a utility called WordPerfect Viewer ($9.99) which is available on the 
Apple Apps Store. I believe this will do what you want. 

Not sure if there is a free utility, but I understand you can use NeoOffice 
suite if you do have it already to open then file the document in whichever 
format you need.  

Kind regards,

Philippe

On 05/02/2012, at 4:40 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

> How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long 
> time acquaintance has done this to me!
> Severin  Crisp
> 
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Re: Word Perfect

[Peder Kristensen]

Hi Severin,

Try this:

Opening/Editing –

1. Open Microsoft Word
2. Click File
3. Click Open
4. In the Files of Type: dropdown box change to All Files (*.*)
5. Browse to the file
6. Click it and select OK
7. It should perform the conversion

Cheers,
Peder

On 05/02/2012, at 16:40 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

> How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long 
> time acquaintance has done this to me!
> Severin  Crisp
> 
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>   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
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Word Perfect

[Severin Crisp]

How do I open a Word Perfect   .wpd document?   Heaven knows why this long time 
acquaintance has done this to me!
Severin  Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  



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Re: Extracting images from MS Word documents

[Eugene]

Great tip.

I use pages to open and then save as Pages'08. If you open the package content 
it displays all images as media in the original format and with the original 
name. - Your way is a bit quicker.

  Regards,
  Eugene
  


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On 31/08/2011, at 11:15 AM, Ray Forma wrote:

> 
> If you just select and copy images from MS Word documents you usually only 
> get a lower-than-original resolution image to paste.
> 
> The following will allow you to retrieve the original resolution image from 
> MS Word.
> 
> 1 Open the document in MS Word
> 2 Save the document as a web page (File>Save as Web Page…)
> 3 This will create a new folder in the same place where you saved the web 
> version. The folder will have the name of your document plus "_files".
> 4 Look inside that folder and you will find files of each image in the 
> document. Usually there are two files of each image; one a low-resolution 
> version, and the other the original-resolution version.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ray Forma
> Mob +61 (0) 428 596938
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Extracting images from MS Word documents

[Ray Forma]

If you just select and copy images from MS Word documents you usually only get 
a lower-than-original resolution image to paste.

The following will allow you to retrieve the original resolution image from MS 
Word.

1 Open the document in MS Word
2 Save the document as a web page (File>Save as Web Page…)
3 This will create a new folder in the same place where you saved the web 
version. The folder will have the name of your document plus "_files".
4 Look inside that folder and you will find files of each image in the 
document. Usually there are two files of each image; one a low-resolution 
version, and the other the original-resolution version.

Regards,

Ray Forma
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Re: Lion and MS Word Office

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Tom,

Don’t change the preferences on WHEEL: Read only
What version of MS Word are you using, is it 2011? Version 2004 is not 
compatible with Lion as it is PowerPC not Intel.

If you cannot make changes to a document, your Word program might not be 
activated, the document might be locked for editing or password-protected, or 
you might be trying to modify a document or text in a form that is protected.

If you are using Word 2011 and all your word documents are showing ‘Read Only’. 

1. First Check it is activated.

2. Then Check in Tools, General Option dialogue: if it has a password set, 
clear it. 

Or
# Click Security.
# Unselect the Read-only recommended check box, and then click OK.

3. Save

Cheers,
Ronni

On 19/08/2011, at 3:01 PM, tom samson wrote:

> 
> What I did is complete a clean reinstall after my first escapade with Lion 
> and then back to Snow Leopard- On my MAcBook Pro. I reinstalled word and when 
> trying to save various documents the word notification box about write 
> protected… disc space… permissions came up frequently and then I could not 
> save the document I was then working on. This happened a few times so they 
> are now all open on the machine. I thought that the permissions -as in Get 
> info (I remember from Snow Leopard were System and account (Me) were read and 
> write. 
> So after trying everything I could think of with Word (I know I should be 
> using Pages) I tried to change the permissions on my HD to System read write 
> Wheel (group) read write. Still problems though.
> tom samson
> 
> Oh I did take notice of Ronnie's ditch the DIVX and codex from Quick time 
> that worked right away. For that I thank you.
> tom Samson
> On 18/08/2011, at 10:35 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Carlo,
>> 
>> I thought the Lion Permissions are changed from Snow Leopard to:
>> system: Read & Write
>> wheel: Read only
>> everyone: Read only
>> 
>> wheel is a group that contains the root user was my understanding.
>> I'm not near my Lion install so can't check.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>> 
>> On 18/08/2011, at 10:19 PM, cm  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Tom,
>>> 
>>> There will not be any problems changing the permissions or ownership of 
>>> documents that you created. For these documents, the permissions are there 
>>> to control who has read access to a given document and who can edit it, but 
>>> this will not affect the operating system. So feel free to make yourself 
>>> the owner of all your documents and to make them read-write for yourself.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure why the permissions are changed. How did you notice the 
>>> documents were locked? That is to say in which application did you attempt 
>>> to modify them?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> On 2011-08-18, at 18:16, tom samson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Laptop upgraded to Lion
>>>> It appears that all my documents have decided to become read only. This 
>>>> may have been because my Laptop HAs per its Get info System read and write 
>>>> and Wheel read only. Is it safe to change wheel to read and write?
>>>> I actually thought it should have been my administrator name (Me) Read and 
>>>> write?
>>>> Something has changed somewhere.
>>>> tom samson
>>>> 




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Re: Lion and MS Word Office

[tom samson]

What I did is complete a clean reinstall after my first escapade with Lion and 
then back to Snow Leopard- On my MAcBook Pro. I reinstalled word and when 
trying to save various documents the word notification box about write 
protected… disc space… permissions came up frequently and then I could not save 
the document I was then working on. This happened a few times so they are now 
all open on the machine. I thought that the permissions -as in Get info (I 
remember from Snow Leopard were System and account (Me) were read and write. 
So after trying everything I could think of with Word (I know I should be using 
Pages) I tried to change the permissions on my HD to System read write Wheel 
(group) read write. Still problems though.
tom samson

Oh I did take notice of Ronnie's ditch the DIVX and codex from Quick time that 
worked right away. For that I thank you.
tom Samson
On 18/08/2011, at 10:35 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Carlo,
> 
> I thought the Lion Permissions are changed from Snow Leopard to:
> system: Read & Write
> wheel: Read only
> everyone: Read only
> 
> wheel is a group that contains the root user was my understanding.
> I'm not near my Lion install so can't check.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 18/08/2011, at 10:19 PM, cm  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> There will not be any problems changing the permissions or ownership of 
>> documents that you created. For these documents, the permissions are there 
>> to control who has read access to a given document and who can edit it, but 
>> this will not affect the operating system. So feel free to make yourself the 
>> owner of all your documents and to make them read-write for yourself.
>> 
>> I am not sure why the permissions are changed. How did you notice the 
>> documents were locked? That is to say in which application did you attempt 
>> to modify them?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 2011-08-18, at 18:16, tom samson wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Laptop upgraded to Lion
>>> It appears that all my documents have decided to become read only. This may 
>>> have been because my Laptop HAs per its Get info System read and write and 
>>> Wheel read only. Is it safe to change wheel to read and write?
>>> I actually thought it should have been my administrator name (Me) Read and 
>>> write?
>>> Something has changed somewhere.
>>> tom samson
>>> 
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Re: Lion and MS Word Office

[cm]

Hi Ronni,

I think I have better understood Tom's question now. When he said my documents 
are read only is it safe to change wheel to read, I assumed he meant changing 
permissions on the documents. Each drive, folder, and document has its own 
permissions. It would be safe to make the documents read-write, but by no means 
should one change the permissions on the drive. Running Repair Permissions 
would change that back in any case.

Thanks Ronni for the clarification. Yes drives now have permissions as you have 
listed. Individual documents should have the same permissions they had before 
the upgrade.

A question for you Tom. Do you log in to your computer with a User account? 
Something like "tom". If so are you still using the same account now that you 
used on Snow Leopard?

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-08-18, at 22:35, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Carlo,
> 
> I thought the Lion Permissions are changed from Snow Leopard to:
> system: Read & Write
> wheel: Read only
> everyone: Read only
> 
> wheel is a group that contains the root user was my understanding.
> I'm not near my Lion install so can't check.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 18/08/2011, at 10:19 PM, cm  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> There will not be any problems changing the permissions or ownership of 
>> documents that you created. For these documents, the permissions are there 
>> to control who has read access to a given document and who can edit it, but 
>> this will not affect the operating system. So feel free to make yourself the 
>> owner of all your documents and to make them read-write for yourself.
>> 
>> I am not sure why the permissions are changed. How did you notice the 
>> documents were locked? That is to say in which application did you attempt 
>> to modify them?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 2011-08-18, at 18:16, tom samson wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Laptop upgraded to Lion
>>> It appears that all my documents have decided to become read only. This may 
>>> have been because my Laptop HAs per its Get info System read and write and 
>>> Wheel read only. Is it safe to change wheel to read and write?
>>> I actually thought it should have been my administrator name (Me) Read and 
>>> write?
>>> Something has changed somewhere.
>>> tom samson
>>> 
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