[wtr-general] running suites with testrunner (--runner=t)

2012-02-20 Thread Lisa Crispin
I finally got my old watir scripts running by  copying my Ruby 1.8.6 (with
Watir 1.6.2) folder from a Vista 64 PC where everything works fine to my
new Win 7 PC. After many hours of work I have found all the environment
variables and path settings I need to run the scripts. I can also run
suites. However, I can't run suites with the tk testrunner. When I use
--runner=t, I don't get an error, but the suite doesn't run, either, it
just stops.

I copied the tcl directory from the old PC where everything works. I also
installed tcl 1.8.5. I tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions. The 64 bit
version gets an error that some part of memory that doesn't exist was
accessed, or something to that effect. I've got the tcl\bin dir in my path.
I've edited the registry entry for ruby so that I can associate ruby.exe
with .rb programs and pass in runtime parameters.

As far as I can tell, my installation is identical to the two PCs here
where the suites run fine with the tk testrunner.

I've googled a bunch, and can't find any information where --runner=t
causes the suites to simply not run, rather than giving an error message.

Any ideas how I can debug this?

If I can't get the tk testrunner to work, is there another option?

I've given up on trying to upgrade to a later version of Ruby and/or Watir,
but still cling to the hope that I could run my suites as before. Of
course, I can run them, but if they fail, I'm going to have a hard time
debugging them.

Thanks for any ideas.
-- Lisa

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Re: [wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-17 Thread Lisa Crispin
I first tried
gem install watir -v 1.6.2
and that didn't work either. I've been trying everything I can find
searching in the archives etc.

My goal is to get my scripts running on my new PC. I don't really care what
versions of anything I have, but it seems intuitive that if I put the same
versions on my new PC that I have on the old PC where all my scripts work,
it would work. But I can't get those versions installed.

I'm open to other advice on how to proceed. I wonder if installing the
newest Ruby and Watir messed things up, even though I uninstalled them,
maybe the uninstall didn't clean up all the registry entries or something.

I'll look for you on gtalk or skype, Z. Thanks!
-- Lisa
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I know, I had uninstalled Ruby 1.8.7 because the require 'watir' kept
 failing, and installed Ruby 1.8.6, but now the install of watir won't work.

 Is there a reason not to install ruby 1.9.3?

 Ruby 1.8.6 probably has rubygems version so old that it can not be updated
 with gem update --system

 If you really like 1.8.6 take a look how I updated it on Mac, it should be
 similar on Windows (RubyGems on 10.5 chapter):

 https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/installation/mac.md


  When I typed gem install watir in Ruby 1.8.7, I got Watir 2. I don't
 want Watir 2, I want 1.6.2.

 For instructions on how to install an older version of watir:

 - go to https://rubygems.org/gems/watir
 - click link Show all versions (43 total) (at the bottom of the page)
 - click the version you like (1.6.2)
 - page with instructions how to install that version will appear

 In short:

 gem install watir -v 1.6.2

 Feel free to ping me on skype/gtalk/irc, it would probably be faster to
 debug the problem that way.

 Željko

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[wtr-general] How to install Watir 1.6.2 with Ruby 1.9.3? Or with any Ruby, such that my scripts will work?

2012-02-17 Thread Lisa Crispin
At Zeljko's suggestion, I installed the latest Ruby, then tried to install
Watir 1.6.2. I got this error:
gem install watir -v 1.6.2
ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Gem::Dependenc
yError)
   Unable to resolve dependencies: watir requires commonwatir (= 1.6.2);
firewa
tir requires commonwatir (= 1.9.2)

Z suggested to install both versions of commonwatir, which I did. When I
ran a Watir script, I got this error:
C:/Ruby193/lib/
ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/specification.rb:1626:in `raise_if_
conflicts': Unable to activate watir-1.6.2, because commonwatir-1.9.2
conflicts
with commonwatir (= 1.6.2) (Gem::LoadError)
   from
C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/specification.rb:741:i
n `activate'
   from C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:209:in `rescue
in t
ry_activate'
   from C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:206:in
`try_activat
e'
   from
C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:58:i
n `rescue in require'
   from
C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:35:i
n `require'

I uninstalled commonwatir at Z's suggestion, then when I ran the watir
script I got this:
but when I run script, it still says, C:/Ruby193/lib/
ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/specification.rb:1626:in `raise_if_
conflicts': Unable to activate firewatir-1.9.4, because commonwatir-1.6.2
confli
cts with commonwatir (= 1.9.2) (Gem::LoadError)

Z suggested I uninstall firewatir, I did that. Then when I ran the script I
get this error:
C:/Ruby193/lib/
ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/dependency.rb:247:in `to_specs': Co
uld not find firewatir (= 0) amongst [activesupport-3.2.1,
bigdecimal-1.1.0, bu
ilder-3.0.0, commonwatir-1.6.2, hoe-2.13.1, i18n-0.6.0, io-console-0.3,
json-1.5
.4, minitest-2.5.1, multi_json-1.0.4, rake-0.9.2.2, rdoc-3.9.4,
s4t-utils-1.0.4,
user-choices-1.1.6.1, watir-1.6.2, win32-api-1.4.8-x86-mingw32,
win32-process-0
.6.5, windows-api-0.4.1, windows-pr-1.2.1, xml-simple-1.1.1]
(Gem::LoadError)

I don't WANT firewatir. Why do I have to have it?

The basic question is - how may I get Watir 1.6.2 working on my Windows 7
PC? I don't care what version of either Ruby or Watir that I have, I just
need for my many Watir scripts to work here. They work fine on my old Vista
64 PC that has Ruby 1.8.6 and Watir 1.6.2. I have tried to install both
Ruby 1.8.7/Watir 1.6.2 - scripts didn't work - and tried to install Ruby
1.8.6, but when I did that, the install of watir wouldn't work.

I'm losing the will to live. Please help!
-- Lisa


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[wtr-general] Ignore this Re: How to install Watir 1.6.2 with Ruby 1.9.3? Or with any Ruby, such that my scripts will work?

2012-02-17 Thread Lisa Crispin
I finally got around that error, but got a new one. Now I am going to try
just copying my ruby folder from my old machine, apparently I missed that
suggestion in a prior email. Sigh.
-- Lisa

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 At Zeljko's suggestion, I installed the latest Ruby, then tried to install
 Watir 1.6.2. I got this error:
 gem install watir -v 1.6.2
 ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Gem::Dependenc
 yError)
Unable to resolve dependencies: watir requires commonwatir (= 1.6.2);
 firewa
 tir requires commonwatir (= 1.9.2)

 Z suggested to install both versions of commonwatir, which I did. When I
 ran a Watir script, I got this error:
 C:/Ruby193/lib/
 ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/specification.rb:1626:in `raise_if_
 conflicts': Unable to activate watir-1.6.2, because commonwatir-1.9.2
 conflicts
 with commonwatir (= 1.6.2) (Gem::LoadError)
from
 C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/specification.rb:741:i
 n `activate'
from C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:209:in `rescue
 in t
 ry_activate'
from C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:206:in
 `try_activat
 e'
from
 C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:58:i
 n `rescue in require'
from
 C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:35:i
 n `require'

 I uninstalled commonwatir at Z's suggestion, then when I ran the watir
 script I got this:
 but when I run script, it still says, C:/Ruby193/lib/
 ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/specification.rb:1626:in `raise_if_
 conflicts': Unable to activate firewatir-1.9.4, because commonwatir-1.6.2
 confli
 cts with commonwatir (= 1.9.2) (Gem::LoadError)

 Z suggested I uninstall firewatir, I did that. Then when I ran the script
 I get this error:
 C:/Ruby193/lib/
 ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/dependency.rb:247:in `to_specs': Co
 uld not find firewatir (= 0) amongst [activesupport-3.2.1,
 bigdecimal-1.1.0, bu
 ilder-3.0.0, commonwatir-1.6.2, hoe-2.13.1, i18n-0.6.0, io-console-0.3,
 json-1.5
 .4, minitest-2.5.1, multi_json-1.0.4, rake-0.9.2.2, rdoc-3.9.4,
 s4t-utils-1.0.4,
 user-choices-1.1.6.1, watir-1.6.2, win32-api-1.4.8-x86-mingw32,
 win32-process-0
 .6.5, windows-api-0.4.1, windows-pr-1.2.1, xml-simple-1.1.1]
 (Gem::LoadError)

 I don't WANT firewatir. Why do I have to have it?

 The basic question is - how may I get Watir 1.6.2 working on my Windows 7
 PC? I don't care what version of either Ruby or Watir that I have, I just
 need for my many Watir scripts to work here. They work fine on my old Vista
 64 PC that has Ruby 1.8.6 and Watir 1.6.2. I have tried to install both
 Ruby 1.8.7/Watir 1.6.2 - scripts didn't work - and tried to install Ruby
 1.8.6, but when I did that, the install of watir wouldn't work.

 I'm losing the will to live. Please help!
 -- Lisa


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[wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-16 Thread Lisa Crispin
I've thrown in the towel on trying to upgrade to Watir 2.0. I uninstalled
whatever Ruby that was, and installed ruby 1.8.7 instead. I installed the
ruby dev kit. I did a gem update --system. I did a gem install watir -v
1.6.2 and that appeared to work ok, at least, I didn't get any errors.
However, when I try to run a script, I get an error 'require': no such file
to load -- watir (LoadError).

I googled on that error and found another way to install, which I tried -
gem install watir-1.6.2.gem --local (I first downloaded the
watir-1.6.2.gem). But that doesn't help. I still get the same error.

I get it that it's crazy to be asking this question years after 1.6.2 was
released. I just want to be able to keep using my many Watir scripts on my
new Windows box. I'm still running them fine on my old Windows box, which
has Ruby 1.8.6 and Watir 1.6.2, but that box has to go away. If I can't get
this working, I'm just going to have to give up entirely and sacrifice many
years investment in these scripts (they were written 2004 - 2006 and I have
maintained them ever since). They are valuable to me, but I don't know what
else to try.

Y'all would probably be just as happy to not having me asking stupid
questions on this list anymore, but I thought I'd give it one more shot.

We don't use Watir for regression tests, we use Canoo WebTest and, recently
adopted, Se/Webdriver with a Geb framework. I suppose eventually we could
build up new scripts that do what our Watir scripts do in Se/Webdriver, but
since I'm the only person on the team that likes to semi-automate my manual
exploratory testing, that probably ain't gonna happen. Only I am feeling
this pain. Which teaches me a valuable lesson about making sure a team
REALLY buys into a test driver and framework before adopting it.

Do I need to go back to Ruby 1.8.6? I was advised by someone who seemed to
know that 1.8.7 would be better even with Watir 1.6.2.

Thanks,
Lisa

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Re: [wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-16 Thread Lisa Crispin
I didn't have to do that on my other machine, but what the heck, I tried
adding require 'rubygems'. Here's a snippet of my code where the requires
are:
require 'test/unit'
require 'rubygems'
require 'watir'

It doesn't help. I still get the same error. I read that page in your book,
but it looks like I'm doing what you suggest there.

Other ideas?
thanks
Lisa

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 comments are inline.

 Željko


 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I uninstalled whatever Ruby that was, and installed ruby 1.8.7 instead.

 Is there a reason for using ruby 1.8.7.? I would suggest that you install
 ruby 1.9.3.

  However, when I try to run a script, I get an error 'require': no such
 file to load -- watir (LoadError).

 This usually happens when your ruby installation does not require rubygems
 by default. Try adding this to the top of the file:

 require rubygems

 By the way, I wrote about that problem in the book:


 https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/watir-in-five-minutes.md

 Željko

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Re: [wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-16 Thread Lisa Crispin
Also, I tried putting the gems folder in my Path variable, someone
suggested that to me on Twitter, that doesn't help either.

2012/2/16 Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com

 I didn't have to do that on my other machine, but what the heck, I tried
 adding require 'rubygems'. Here's a snippet of my code where the requires
 are:
 require 'test/unit'
 require 'rubygems'
 require 'watir'

 It doesn't help. I still get the same error. I read that page in your
 book, but it looks like I'm doing what you suggest there.

 Other ideas?
 thanks
 Lisa


 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Željko Filipin 
 zeljko.fili...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 comments are inline.

 Željko


 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I uninstalled whatever Ruby that was, and installed ruby 1.8.7 instead.

 Is there a reason for using ruby 1.8.7.? I would suggest that you install
 ruby 1.9.3.

  However, when I try to run a script, I get an error 'require': no such
 file to load -- watir (LoadError).

 This usually happens when your ruby installation does not require
 rubygems by default. Try adding this to the top of the file:

 require rubygems

 By the way, I wrote about that problem in the book:


 https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/watir-in-five-minutes.md

 Željko

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Re: [wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-16 Thread Lisa Crispin
My next bright idea was to uninstall ruby 1.8.7 and try installing 1.8.6,
which is what works on my old pc. That seemed to install ok, but when I do
gem update --system, I get an error ERROR: While executing gem ...
(Gem::RemoteSourceException) HTTP response 302

Is there a different way to install watir 1.6.2 with ruby 1.8.6? I have
looked at the archived emails on this and they say to do gem update
--system and then gem install watir-1.6.2.gem. But neither of those works
for me now. They did work, with ruby 1.8.7, but require 'watir' doesn't
work with ruby 1.8.7 for me.

-- Lisa

2012/2/16 Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com

 Also, I tried putting the gems folder in my Path variable, someone
 suggested that to me on Twitter, that doesn't help either.


 2012/2/16 Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com

 I didn't have to do that on my other machine, but what the heck, I tried
 adding require 'rubygems'. Here's a snippet of my code where the requires
 are:
 require 'test/unit'
 require 'rubygems'
 require 'watir'

 It doesn't help. I still get the same error. I read that page in your
 book, but it looks like I'm doing what you suggest there.

 Other ideas?
 thanks
 Lisa


 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 comments are inline.

 Željko


 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I uninstalled whatever Ruby that was, and installed ruby 1.8.7 instead.

 Is there a reason for using ruby 1.8.7.? I would suggest that you
 install ruby 1.9.3.

  However, when I try to run a script, I get an error 'require': no such
 file to load -- watir (LoadError).

 This usually happens when your ruby installation does not require
 rubygems by default. Try adding this to the top of the file:

 require rubygems

 By the way, I wrote about that problem in the book:


 https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/watir-in-five-minutes.md

 Željko

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Re: [wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-16 Thread Lisa Crispin
I get *** LOCAL GEMS ***

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@gmail.comwrote:

 2012/2/16 Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
  I still get the same error.

 What do you get if you execute this in the command line?

 gem list watir

 Željko

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Re: [wtr-general] Trying to go back to watir 1.6.2, won't install correctly

2012-02-16 Thread Lisa Crispin
I know, I had uninstalled Ruby 1.8.7 because the require 'watir' kept
failing, and installed Ruby 1.8.6, but now the install of watir won't work.

When I typed gem install watir in Ruby 1.8.7, I got Watir 2. I don't want
Watir 2, I want 1.6.2. Will that just happen by magic? I know I can just
try it, but I'm getting really tired of uninstalling and installing things.

thanks,
Lisa

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 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I get *** LOCAL GEMS ***

 If it does not list watir gem there, then you do not have it installed.
 Try running this again:

 gem install watir

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Re: [wtr-general] problem with radio button after upgrade

2012-01-31 Thread Lisa Crispin
Thanks everyone for the links, it's a big help.

As usual, I had to switch off to other work, trying to get a big block of
time to get back to getting our many scripts to work in the new
Watir/Webdriver. One of my coworkers who is new to Watir is helping. The
doc will be a big help to us.
-- Lisa

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Jari Bakken jari.bak...@gmail.com wrote:

 The watir-webdriver docs can certainly be improved (especially when it
 comes to examples), but the standard API docs (for any ruby gem actually)
 can be found on rubydoc.info, as Zeljko mentions:

   http://rubydoc.info/github/watir/watir-webdriver/frames

 As for the attribute methods on the element object, those are largely
 created through metaprogramming and thus not picked up by the default docs
 generator. To generate the *full* set of docs, you can run `rake yard` in a
 source checkout (we could perhaps host these ourselves somewhere?).

 Jari


 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 The good news is, the syntax you gave me does work. Thank you!

 Then I realized this page I found that looks like such nice doc is for
 the old Watir. Does that not exist for Watir 2? This is *really* what I
 need. Something that shows all the possibilities (eg., can use name, id,
 value or whatever), and lots of examples.
 thanks
 Lisa


 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 OK, and now I see in your email the link to this
 http://watir.com/support. So I just went there and did a search 'watir
 radio', and finally found this page, which is what I was looking for:

 http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/1.6.5/classes/Watir/Container.html

 Thank you!
 -- Lisa


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 zeljko.fili...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ie.radio(:name, 'rst', '65546').set

 The new api is:

 ie.radio(:name = rst, :value = 65546).set

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[wtr-general] Error with brand new install

2012-01-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
I'm doing a brand new install of Watir on Windoze 7, following the
instructions on the site.

I'm getting this error when I do the test recommended in the instructions:
irb(main):002:0 browser = Watir::Browser.new
C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/windows-api-0.4.0/lib/windows/api.rb:4:
Use
RbConfig instead of obsolete and deprecated Config.

I found someone posted the same problem here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8337338/watir-does-not-work-with-ruby-1-9-3

Zeljko says It works for me and shows his versions of everything. I have
the exact same versions.

The person who posted the problem says It all went down to ffi gem.

I have no idea what that is, but I looked it up and installed it with 'gem
install ffi'. That didn't help my problem.

I've browsed around on the mailing list and google but haven't found the
solution.

Please help.
thanks
Lisa

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Re: [wtr-general] Error with brand new install

2012-01-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
Hi Željko

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Željko Filipin
zeljko.fili...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'm doing a brand new install of Watir on Windoze 7, following the
 instructions on the site.

 This instructions?


 https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/installation/windows.md

 I have updated the instructions there, but I did not have the time to
 publish a new version of the book.

Yes, that's the page I used



  I'm getting this error when I do the test recommended in the
 instructions:
  irb(main):002:0 browser = Watir::Browser.new
 
 C:/Ruby193/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/windows-api-0.4.0/lib/windows/api.rb:4:
 Use
  RbConfig instead of obsolete and deprecated Config.

 Is this just a warning message? (Looks like it comes from windows-api
 gem.) Does the browser open?


It's just a warning message. It refers to a Config:: something or other,
but I don't have that anywhere in my Ruby scripts. I get this warning any
time I run a script, too.



  The person who posted the problem says It all went down to ffi gem.

 There was a problem with one version of ffi gem on Windows, but I think
 that is solved now. Did you install DevKit?


Yes, at least, I followed all those instructions and it seemed to work



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[wtr-general] problem with radio button after upgrade

2012-01-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
I'm trying to get all our zillions of Ruby/Watir/Test::Unit scripts working
in the latest Watir version.

Right away I ran into this problem. We have an old legacy page that has
several radio buttons with the same name. So I can only select them by
value. Here's the html:

input type=radio onclick=javascript: location.href =
'userLogin.jsp?selectType=65546'; checked= value=65546
style=vertical-align: middle; name=rst

Here is the Watir code (do you call this code?) that has worked for 8 years:

ie.radio(:name, 'rst', '65546').set

When I run the script, I get this error:

ArgumentError: wrong number of arguments (3 for 2)
(eval):1:in `radio'

I've Googled the documentation and it looks to me like what we have should
still work. However, I cannot find a specific example to use both name and
value. Still, the documentation indicates that the value is supported.

I have two questions:
1. Why am I getting this error?
2. Is there ONE definitive place where Watir commands (or whatever you call
them) are documented?
3. Is there a side-by-side comparison of the old Watir and the new Watir? I
saw some links that were pointing to github, but when I clicked them I got
404.

If it's going to be too hard to upgrade, I can just stay on the old version
forever, but I would really like to use webdriver. We are now using
webdriver with Selenium and Geb, but I'd like to use it with Watir as well.

Thanks,
Lisa
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Re: [wtr-general] problem with radio button after upgrade

2012-01-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
OK, and now I see in your email the link to this http://watir.com/support.
So I just went there and did a search 'watir radio', and finally found this
page, which is what I was looking for:

http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/1.6.5/classes/Watir/Container.html

Thank you!
-- Lisa

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 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ie.radio(:name, 'rst', '65546').set

 The new api is:

 ie.radio(:name = rst, :value = 65546).set

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Re: [wtr-general] problem with radio button after upgrade

2012-01-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
The good news is, the syntax you gave me does work. Thank you!

Then I realized this page I found that looks like such nice doc is for the
old Watir. Does that not exist for Watir 2? This is *really* what I need.
Something that shows all the possibilities (eg., can use name, id, value or
whatever), and lots of examples.
thanks
Lisa

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 OK, and now I see in your email the link to this http://watir.com/support.
 So I just went there and did a search 'watir radio', and finally found this
 page, which is what I was looking for:

 http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/1.6.5/classes/Watir/Container.html

 Thank you!
 -- Lisa


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 zeljko.fili...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ie.radio(:name, 'rst', '65546').set

 The new api is:

 ie.radio(:name = rst, :value = 65546).set

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[wtr-general] Upgrading anxiety

2011-12-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
We have Watir 1.6.2 and Ruby 1.8.6. We have MANY Watir/Test/Unit scripts
which we (well, I) mainly use to help with exploratory testing, and to
verify releases. I can't live without these scripts, so I don't want to
break them. At the same time, I want to try the latest Watir and Webdriver
to see if it correctly interprets the JS that our new Dojo code has - the
version of Watir we have can't cope with it, and Canoo WebTest/HtmlUnit
also cannot correctly interpret it.

I perused the latest install instructions and info about the later Watir
releases, and it sounds like our older Watir scripts aren't going to work
with the later version? Is this true? How much effort is required to fix
them? Is there a central location with this information that I just haven't
found yet?

If I install the latest Ruby and Watir/WebDriver, and our scripts don't
work, can I back up to the old versions again?

I only spend about 10% of my time doing any sort of coding, so though this
might all be really obvious to y'all, it is something quite challenging and
scary for me. I would hate to abandon Watir and the excellent scripts we
have, but I don't get any support from my team on this. They are keen to
try Selenium.

Thanks,
Lisa



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[wtr-general] Re: type-ahead select lists

2011-05-27 Thread Lisa Crispin
(re-sending, I don't think it got sent for some reason)

Now I am able to type text into the hidden field, but after looking at the
links Chuck recommended, the code from Paul, and lots of other Googling
around, I'm still flummoxed on trying to get the event to fire.

Here is the html:
 select dojoType=dijit.form.FilteringSelect id='advisorId'
name='advisorId' onchange=javascript:selectPlanAdvisor();
option value=0  selected 
No Advisor
/option
option value=3785 
FERNANDEZ, KEVIN S
/option
/select

Here is what I've tried to try to fire the event:
 ie.hidden(:id, 'advisorId').fire_event(onchange)

This returns a value of yellow in irb (WTF?) but does not fire the JS.

One of the Java developers here tried to help, but he's as baffled as I am.
Any other suggestions? I will have many scripts broken because of this, and
I depend on those scripts to help with our exploratory testing as well as
testing releases to the staging environment. I don't want to lose them!

thanks,
Lisa


On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'd wager it's working off keypress events.  Problem is we can't
 easily fire those in watir because the .fire_event method only takes a
 single parameter (the event) and I believe to work properly keypress
 needs a parameter for the value of the key that was depressed.

 You might need to write your own function that executes the javascript
 fireevent function instead, similar to this item from Stackoverflow a
 year or two ago
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/602069/autocomplete-dropdown-test-with-ruby-watir

 Another alternative is described here
 http://zbarzone.blogspot.com/2008/08/watir-sendkeys-and-javascript.html
 and that approach might actually be better for you.

 To fix this 'for real' it seems we'd need to first modify .fire_event
 to allow for a second parameter, or create a new method such
 as .fire_key_event  that would take two parameters.  Then any other
 methods that have keypress events in them such as .set would need to
 be altered to fire the down/press/up events character by character and
 fire those events with the proper 'key' values for each character.

 On May 24, 11:24 am, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried the log events thing, it's nice to know about that, but I don't
 see
  anything that really looks like the JS firing. I see a lot of 'select',
  'click' 'keydown', 'input', 'keypress', 'keyup', none of that looks like
  what the JS is doing with the type ahead.
  -- LIsa
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Željko Filipin 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:
   On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   wrote:
We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes
 to a
   dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item.
 
   Is the page public? Or a similar page? Frameworks usually have examples
   somewhere online.
 
   If you think the only problem is that a JavaScript event is not fired
 (by
   Watir), take a look at this:
 
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3787555/how-to-find-out-which-java.
 ..
 
   If the site is not public, but you could show it to me, contact me off
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Re: [wtr-general] Re: type-ahead select lists

2011-05-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
, or create a new method such
  as .fire_key_event  that would take two parameters.  Then any other
  methods that have keypress events in them such as .set would need to
  be altered to fire the down/press/up events character by character and
  fire those events with the proper 'key' values for each character.
 
  On May 24, 11:24 am, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried the log events thing, it's nice to know about that, but I don't
 see
  anything that really looks like the JS firing. I see a lot of 'select',
  'click' 'keydown', 'input', 'keypress', 'keyup', none of that looks like
  what the JS is doing with the type ahead.
  -- LIsa
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Željko Filipin 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:
   On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes
 to a
   dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item.
 
   Is the page public? Or a similar page? Frameworks usually have
 examples
   somewhere online.
 
   If you think the only problem is that a JavaScript event is not fired
 (by
   Watir), take a look at this:
 
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3787555/how-to-find-out-which-java.
 ..
 
   If the site is not public, but you could show it to me, contact me off
   list.
 
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Re: [wtr-general] Re: type-ahead select lists

2011-05-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
Thanks, I will take a look!
-- Lisa

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Željko Filipin 
zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  my main problem is the field is hidden, and I can't figure out the Watir
 syntax to force a hidden input field.

 Watir can work with hidden fields:

 browser.hidden(how, what)

 More info:

 http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/HTML+Elements+Supported+by+Watir

 (This will not work in watir-webdriver.)

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Re: [wtr-general] Re: type-ahead select lists

2011-05-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
OK, I got the hidden part to work, but I do need the fire event, I think. I
wish I knew how this is so easily done in Canoo WebTest with the
forceHiddenInputField. Not being a programmer, I am thinking I'm not going
to be able to figure this out. The Java programmers here aren't too keen to
help me but maybe I can get one of them to, I'm sure they could figure it
out with all the info y'all have provided. Thanks.
-- Lisa

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'd wager it's working off keypress events.  Problem is we can't
 easily fire those in watir because the .fire_event method only takes a
 single parameter (the event) and I believe to work properly keypress
 needs a parameter for the value of the key that was depressed.

 You might need to write your own function that executes the javascript
 fireevent function instead, similar to this item from Stackoverflow a
 year or two ago
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/602069/autocomplete-dropdown-test-with-ruby-watir

 Another alternative is described here
 http://zbarzone.blogspot.com/2008/08/watir-sendkeys-and-javascript.html
 and that approach might actually be better for you.

 To fix this 'for real' it seems we'd need to first modify .fire_event
 to allow for a second parameter, or create a new method such
 as .fire_key_event  that would take two parameters.  Then any other
 methods that have keypress events in them such as .set would need to
 be altered to fire the down/press/up events character by character and
 fire those events with the proper 'key' values for each character.

 On May 24, 11:24 am, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried the log events thing, it's nice to know about that, but I don't
 see
  anything that really looks like the JS firing. I see a lot of 'select',
  'click' 'keydown', 'input', 'keypress', 'keyup', none of that looks like
  what the JS is doing with the type ahead.
  -- LIsa
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Željko Filipin 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:
   On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   wrote:
We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes
 to a
   dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item.
 
   Is the page public? Or a similar page? Frameworks usually have examples
   somewhere online.
 
   If you think the only problem is that a JavaScript event is not fired
 (by
   Watir), take a look at this:
 
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3787555/how-to-find-out-which-java.
 ..
 
   If the site is not public, but you could show it to me, contact me off
   list.
 
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Re: [wtr-general] Re: type-ahead select lists

2011-05-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
Now I am able to type text into the hidden field, but after looking at the
links Chuck recommended, the code from Paul, and lots of other Googling
around, I'm still flummoxed on trying to get the event to fire.

Here is the html:
 select dojoType=dijit.form.FilteringSelect id='advisorId'
name='advisorId' onchange=javascript:selectPlanAdvisor();
option value=0  selected 
No Advisor
/option
option value=3785 
FERNANDEZ, KEVIN S
/option
/select

Here is what I've tried to try to fire the event:
 ie.hidden(:id, 'advisorId').fire_event(onchange)

This returns a value of yellow in irb (WTF?) but does not fire the JS.

One of the Java developers here tried to help, but he's as baffled as I am.
Any other suggestions? I will have many scripts broken because of this, and
I depend on those scripts to help with our exploratory testing as well as
testing releases to the staging environment. I don't want to lose them!

thanks,
Lisa


On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Chuck van der Linden sqa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'd wager it's working off keypress events.  Problem is we can't
 easily fire those in watir because the .fire_event method only takes a
 single parameter (the event) and I believe to work properly keypress
 needs a parameter for the value of the key that was depressed.

 You might need to write your own function that executes the javascript
 fireevent function instead, similar to this item from Stackoverflow a
 year or two ago
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/602069/autocomplete-dropdown-test-with-ruby-watir

 Another alternative is described here
 http://zbarzone.blogspot.com/2008/08/watir-sendkeys-and-javascript.html
 and that approach might actually be better for you.

 To fix this 'for real' it seems we'd need to first modify .fire_event
 to allow for a second parameter, or create a new method such
 as .fire_key_event  that would take two parameters.  Then any other
 methods that have keypress events in them such as .set would need to
 be altered to fire the down/press/up events character by character and
 fire those events with the proper 'key' values for each character.

 On May 24, 11:24 am, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried the log events thing, it's nice to know about that, but I don't
 see
  anything that really looks like the JS firing. I see a lot of 'select',
  'click' 'keydown', 'input', 'keypress', 'keyup', none of that looks like
  what the JS is doing with the type ahead.
  -- LIsa
 
  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Željko Filipin 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:
   On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   wrote:
We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes
 to a
   dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item.
 
   Is the page public? Or a similar page? Frameworks usually have examples
   somewhere online.
 
   If you think the only problem is that a JavaScript event is not fired
 (by
   Watir), take a look at this:
 
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3787555/how-to-find-out-which-java.
 ..
 
   If the site is not public, but you could show it to me, contact me off
   list.
 
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Re: [wtr-general] type-ahead select lists

2011-05-24 Thread Lisa Crispin
I tried the log events thing, it's nice to know about that, but I don't see
anything that really looks like the JS firing. I see a lot of 'select',
'click' 'keydown', 'input', 'keypress', 'keyup', none of that looks like
what the JS is doing with the type ahead.
-- LIsa

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Željko Filipin 
zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes to a
 dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item.

 Is the page public? Or a similar page? Frameworks usually have examples
 somewhere online.

 If you think the only problem is that a JavaScript event is not fired (by
 Watir), take a look at this:


 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3787555/how-to-find-out-which-javascript-events-fired

 If the site is not public, but you could show it to me, contact me off
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[wtr-general] type-ahead select lists

2011-05-23 Thread Lisa Crispin
We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes to a
dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item. Here's the
HTML:

select dojoType=dijit.form.FilteringSelect id=advisor.dealerId
name=advisor.dealerId style='width: 550px;'

option value=0 

/option

option value=1059 
1717 Capital Management / 300 Continental Drive /
Suite 3 South / Newark, DE 19713-4329 /

/option
...etc


I thought I could use text_field to set a value here, just as if I typed it
manually on the page. I tried ie.text_field(:id,
'advisor.dealerId').set(some value). When I do this in irb, I see it set
the value, but when I submit, it shows the default value was selected
instead. I also tried fire_event(onclick), that didn't help.

We were able to get our Canoo WebTest scripts to select these with its
forceHiddenInputField step. I thought maybe I could do something similar
in Watir with input type=hidden, but I can't get the syntax right and I
can't find any examples. I can't figure out where I would put input
type=hidden in my text_field step.

Would someone please point me to examples that might help me figure this
out? I apologize if this is an ignorant question. I searched the mailing
list and the Watir site but I could not figure out how to make this work.
thanks,
Lisa



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Re: [wtr-general] type-ahead select lists

2011-05-23 Thread Lisa Crispin
That's what I had when this was just a regular select list, it doesn't work
anymore now that we have this dojo stuff.
-- Lisa

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ashok Tulachan tulachanas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 I don't know how you still have select as the input type if the dropdown
 is changed. Can you try this code?

 ie.select_list(:id, advisor.dealerId).select some value

 Thanks


 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:


 We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes to a
 dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item. Here's the
 HTML:

 select dojoType=dijit.form.FilteringSelect id=advisor.dealerId 
 name=advisor.dealerId style='width: 550px;'



 option value=0 

 /option

 option value=1059 
 1717 Capital Management / 300 Continental Drive / Suite 3 
 South / Newark, DE 19713-4329 /

 /option
 ...etc


 I thought I could use text_field to set a value here, just as if I typed
 it manually on the page. I tried ie.text_field(:id,
 'advisor.dealerId').set(some value). When I do this in irb, I see it set
 the value, but when I submit, it shows the default value was selected
 instead. I also tried fire_event(onclick), that didn't help.

 We were able to get our Canoo WebTest scripts to select these with its
 forceHiddenInputField step. I thought maybe I could do something similar
 in Watir with input type=hidden, but I can't get the syntax right and I
 can't find any examples. I can't figure out where I would put input
 type=hidden in my text_field step.

 Would someone please point me to examples that might help me figure this
 out? I apologize if this is an ignorant question. I searched the mailing
 list and the Watir site but I could not figure out how to make this work.
 thanks,
 Lisa



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Re: [wtr-general] Re: type-ahead select lists

2011-05-23 Thread Lisa Crispin
Wow, I never even heard of send_keys, I'll give it a try, thank you.
-- Lisa

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:26 PM, George george.sand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lisa,

 I think I found an example you're using here:

 http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/test/dojo/tests/widget/test_Select.html

 I'm looking at Select #2 (dataUrl, autocomplete=true). The only way I
 could get it to work is by using send_keys:

 b = Watir::IE.attach(:title, /Dojo/)
 test_field = b.span(:class = dojoComboBoxOuter dj_ie, :index =
 2).text_field(:class, dojoComboBox)
 test_field.focus
 b.send_keys(florida)
 sleep 2
 b.send_keys({ENTER})


 On May 23, 12:44 pm, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
  We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes to a
  dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item. Here's the
  HTML:
 
  select dojoType=dijit.form.FilteringSelect id=advisor.dealerId
  name=advisor.dealerId style='width: 550px;'
 
  option value=0 
 
  /option
 
  option value=1059 
  1717 Capital Management / 300 Continental Drive /
  Suite 3 South / Newark, DE 19713-4329 /
 
  /option
  ...etc
 
  I thought I could use text_field to set a value here, just as if I typed
 it
  manually on the page. I tried ie.text_field(:id,
  'advisor.dealerId').set(some value). When I do this in irb, I see it
 set
  the value, but when I submit, it shows the default value was selected
  instead. I also tried fire_event(onclick), that didn't help.
 
  We were able to get our Canoo WebTest scripts to select these with its
  forceHiddenInputField step. I thought maybe I could do something
 similar
  in Watir with input type=hidden, but I can't get the syntax right and I
  can't find any examples. I can't figure out where I would put input
  type=hidden in my text_field step.
 
  Would someone please point me to examples that might help me figure this
  out? I apologize if this is an ignorant question. I searched the mailing
  list and the Watir site but I could not figure out how to make this work.
  thanks,
  Lisa
 
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Re: [wtr-general] type-ahead select lists

2011-05-23 Thread Lisa Crispin
The pages where we're using this aren't public. But I will look at this
link, thanks!
-- Lisa

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Željko Filipin 
zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  We are changing what used to be regular drop-down select list boxes to a
 dojo widget thingie that allows type ahead to select the item.

 Is the page public? Or a similar page? Frameworks usually have examples
 somewhere online.

 If you think the only problem is that a JavaScript event is not fired (by
 Watir), take a look at this:


 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3787555/how-to-find-out-which-javascript-events-fired

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Re: [wtr-general] HTML element order different in IE8 from IE7

2010-09-04 Thread Lisa Crispin
Thanks, Ethan and Charley.

I didn't write this script, and the person who did left a few years ago, so
I can't say why he did what he did, but he wrote LOTS of scripts that parse
html in this way. He was trying to make the scripts really flexible, and
kind of act like a manual tester just trying lots of different cases on the
page. So the test scrapes all the data on the page and clicks different
anniversary dates for different people listed.

I think it's overkill, and we need to refactor these tests and simplify
them. I didn't know about the order with html - that's good to know. It's a
wonder the test has run fine all these years.

I'll put a bug in about the error message.
thanks,
Lisa

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are several problems here.

 - The attributes of an html object aren't meant to be in any particular
 order; them changing is not really a bug.
 - Using a regexp to parse html is a fundamentally broken idea.
 - Why are you passing a third argument to #radio at all if you are just
 getting that value from the html, corresponding to the same element you are
 trying to retrieve? why not just do ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate') ?

 The error message isn't great, that is true. I would recommend to open a
 ticket for that at http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR


 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 15:34, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a script fail when running it on IE8, it's several years old and
 works fine on IE7. It's setting a radio button:
 ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', anniversary_date).set
 The value of anniversary_date is a date like '10-01-2008' (at least, in
 IE7), it's set by using regex to parse the html
   anniv_regex = /id=anniversaryDate(\d+).*?value=?(.+?)? name=/

 In IE7 the html looks like this:
 input type=radio value=10-01-1992 name=anniversaryDate
 id=anniversaryDate1

 In IE8 the html looks like this:
 input name=anniversaryDate id=anniversaryDate1 type=radio
 value=10-01-1992/

 In IE7, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010
 In IE8, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010 type=radio

 And I get an error Watir::Exception::UnknownObjectException: Unable to
 locate element, using :name, anniversaryDate
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:56:in
 `assert_exists'
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:288:in
 `enabled?'
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:60:in
 `assert_enabled'

 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:538:in
 `set'

 But in IRB if I type ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', '10-01-2010').set
 it works fine - so it's not that it can't find the name, the value is wrong.


 So one problem is a weird IE8 thing, I don't know what to do about that.
 But the other problem is, the error message is misleading. I wasted some
 time thinking something was wrong with the name.

 Thanks
 Lisa

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Re: [wtr-general] HTML element order different in IE8 from IE7

2010-09-04 Thread Lisa Crispin
)
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at 
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org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:178)
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org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:126)
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org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:684)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)



On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Ethan and Charley.

 I didn't write this script, and the person who did left a few years ago, so
 I can't say why he did what he did, but he wrote LOTS of scripts that parse
 html in this way. He was trying to make the scripts really flexible, and
 kind of act like a manual tester just trying lots of different cases on the
 page. So the test scrapes all the data on the page and clicks different
 anniversary dates for different people listed.

 I think it's overkill, and we need to refactor these tests and simplify
 them. I didn't know about the order with html - that's good to know. It's a
 wonder the test has run fine all these years.

 I'll put a bug in about the error message.
 thanks,
 Lisa


 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Ethan notet...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are several problems here.

 - The attributes of an html object aren't meant to be in any particular
 order; them changing is not really a bug.
 - Using a regexp to parse html is a fundamentally broken idea.
 - Why are you passing a third argument to #radio at all if you are just
 getting that value from the html, corresponding to the same element you are
 trying to retrieve? why not just do ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate') ?

 The error message isn't great, that is true. I would recommend to open a
 ticket for that at http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR


 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 15:34, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 I had a script fail when running it on IE8, it's several years old and
 works fine on IE7. It's setting a radio button:
 ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', anniversary_date).set
 The value of anniversary_date is a date like '10-01-2008' (at least, in
 IE7), it's set by using regex to parse the html
   anniv_regex = /id=anniversaryDate(\d+).*?value=?(.+?)? name=/

 In IE7 the html looks like this:
 input type=radio value=10-01-1992 name=anniversaryDate
 id=anniversaryDate1

 In IE8 the html looks like this:
 input name=anniversaryDate id=anniversaryDate1 type=radio
 value=10-01-1992/

 In IE7, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010
 In IE8, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010 type=radio

 And I get an error Watir::Exception::UnknownObjectException: Unable to
 locate element, using :name, anniversaryDate
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:56:in
 `assert_exists'

 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:288:in
 `enabled?'
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:60:in
 `assert_enabled'

 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:538:in
 `set'

 But in IRB if I type ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', '10-01-2010').set
 it works fine - so it's not that it can't find the name, the value is wrong.


 So one problem is a weird IE8 thing, I don't know what to do about that.
 But the other problem is, the error message is misleading. I wasted some
 time thinking something was wrong with the name.

 Thanks
 Lisa

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[wtr-general] HTML element order different in IE8 from IE7

2010-09-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
I had a script fail when running it on IE8, it's several years old and works
fine on IE7. It's setting a radio button:
ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', anniversary_date).set
The value of anniversary_date is a date like '10-01-2008' (at least, in
IE7), it's set by using regex to parse the html
  anniv_regex = /id=anniversaryDate(\d+).*?value=?(.+?)? name=/

In IE7 the html looks like this:
input type=radio value=10-01-1992 name=anniversaryDate
id=anniversaryDate1

In IE8 the html looks like this:
input name=anniversaryDate id=anniversaryDate1 type=radio
value=10-01-1992/

In IE7, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010
In IE8, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010 type=radio

And I get an error Watir::Exception::UnknownObjectException: Unable to
locate element, using :name, anniversaryDate
C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:56:in
`assert_exists'
C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:288:in
`enabled?'
C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:60:in
`assert_enabled'

C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:538:in
`set'

But in IRB if I type ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', '10-01-2010').set it
works fine - so it's not that it can't find the name, the value is wrong.

So one problem is a weird IE8 thing, I don't know what to do about that. But
the other problem is, the error message is misleading. I wasted some time
thinking something was wrong with the name.

Thanks
Lisa

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[wtr-general] Misleading error message on set radio button

2010-09-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
Oops, that was a bad subject line before. It's not Watir's fault IE8 is
screwy.

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had a script fail when running it on IE8, it's several years old and
 works fine on IE7. It's setting a radio button:
 ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', anniversary_date).set
 The value of anniversary_date is a date like '10-01-2008' (at least, in
 IE7), it's set by using regex to parse the html
   anniv_regex = /id=anniversaryDate(\d+).*?value=?(.+?)? name=/

 In IE7 the html looks like this:
 input type=radio value=10-01-1992 name=anniversaryDate
 id=anniversaryDate1

 In IE8 the html looks like this:
 input name=anniversaryDate id=anniversaryDate1 type=radio
 value=10-01-1992/

 In IE7, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010
 In IE8, the value of anniversary_date ends up as: 10-01-2010 type=radio

 And I get an error Watir::Exception::UnknownObjectException: Unable to
 locate element, using :name, anniversaryDate
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:56:in
 `assert_exists'
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:288:in
 `enabled?'
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/element.rb:60:in
 `assert_enabled'

 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.5/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:538:in
 `set'

 But in IRB if I type ie.radio(:name, 'anniversaryDate', '10-01-2010').set
 it works fine - so it's not that it can't find the name, the value is wrong.


 So one problem is a weird IE8 thing, I don't know what to do about that.
 But the other problem is, the error message is misleading. I wasted some
 time thinking something was wrong with the name.

 Thanks
 Lisa

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Re: [wtr-general] New proposed Watir project home on the wiki

2010-01-31 Thread Lisa Crispin
I vote for the new page. It is more inviting and looks easier to navigate.
-- Lisa

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Alister Scott alister.sc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Now that we have the latest version of Confluence, I was thinking of
 updating the project home page on the wiki.

 I wanted to make it more dynamic, so I have come up with a proposal.

 The current page is: http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Project+Home

 The new proposed page is:
 http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Project+Home+%28Proposed%29

 Please take a look and let me know what you think, and what you think
 could be better.

 Cheers,

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[wtr-general] Re: happy belated birthday watir.

2009-11-18 Thread Lisa Crispin
Happy Birthday! That is so cool! Did you tweet this?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:

 If Im correct, watirs first public appearance was 5 years ago ( plus a few
 days as I forgot to send the email).

 Bret was teaching a class on test automation at StarWest, and I helped out.
 This was the first appearance of watir. During the class we found lots of
 bugs. Thanks to all the students for not walking out on us. Is anyone from
 that class on the list?

 http://www.sqe.com/Events/Archive/sw2004/tutorials.html

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[wtr-general] Re: Sai

2009-09-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
That is a good idea, where can we update the doc? Is it all in github also?
-- Lisa

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:

 You're a good writer, documentation is always in need of improvemnet.

 Paul

 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm in awe of anyone who contributes to open source tools. To me, the more
 recognition they get, the better. I am a guilty user of all these
 contributions.

 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Željko Filipin 
 zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Bret Pettichord bpettich...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I think we could also recognize a community team. Maybe we add Sai to
 this group as
  well?

 I was planning to suggest more people for the core team after I see the
 response for Sai.

 Jari Bakken of Celerity (http://celerity.rubyforge.org/) and Dave Hoover
 of SafariWatir (http://safariwatir.rubyforge.org/).

 Looks like Jari belongs even to Watir core developers. I guess I did not
 monitor github close enough.

 Sai and Dave did not contribute any code to Watir, so they do not belong
 to core developers, but they created support for a browser that Watir did
 not support, and I think their effort should be recognized by adding them to
 the community team.

 Anyway, that is just my opinion. I this community does not think the
 same, I will accept it.

 Željko






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[wtr-general] Re: Sai

2009-09-28 Thread Lisa Crispin
I'm in awe of anyone who contributes to open source tools. To me, the more
recognition they get, the better. I am a guilty user of all these
contributions.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Željko Filipin 
zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Bret Pettichord bpettich...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I think we could also recognize a community team. Maybe we add Sai to
 this group as
  well?

 I was planning to suggest more people for the core team after I see the
 response for Sai.

 Jari Bakken of Celerity (http://celerity.rubyforge.org/) and Dave Hoover
 of SafariWatir (http://safariwatir.rubyforge.org/).

 Looks like Jari belongs even to Watir core developers. I guess I did not
 monitor github close enough.

 Sai and Dave did not contribute any code to Watir, so they do not belong to
 core developers, but they created support for a browser that Watir did not
 support, and I think their effort should be recognized by adding them to the
 community team.

 Anyway, that is just my opinion. I this community does not think the same,
 I will accept it.

 Željko


 



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[wtr-general] Re: Sai

2009-09-27 Thread Lisa Crispin
That's funny, I just met Sai week before last in India, I didn't even know
he had done ChromeWatir, I'm out of the Watir look ATM. I would sure add him
to the core team! He rocks.
-- Lisa

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Željko Filipin 
zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch wrote:

 I have just realized that Sai Venkatakrishnan (
 http://developer-in-test.blogspot.com, http://twitter.com/sai_venkat,
 https://github.com/saivenkat), creator of ChromeWatir (
 http://code.google.com/p/chrome-watir), but not just that, is not in Watir
 Core team (http://watir.com/community/).

 I do not know if we have official way of introducing new people to the core
 team (if we do, please point me there), but I suggest that we add Sai to the
 core team.

 Thoughts?

 Željko
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[wtr-general] Re: WatirCraft LLC is closing

2009-06-05 Thread Lisa Crispin
I was really bummed to hear about this too.

Congratulations on your new gig, Bret. I suspect you will continue to
contribute to the software dev and testing community in some way, as you
always have!

Thanks to Bret and Pete for all they have done to improve Watir, it sure
helped me and my team a ton. And thanks to all the other Watir contributors
and us users hope you will all stay involved!
-- Lisa

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Pete Dignan p...@watircraft.com wrote:


 Z* - sure, it's ok to ask.

 When Bret and I started WatirCraft, we believed there were things that
 needed to be
 done for open source Watir (like support for Firefox, and a standard
 framework), to
 make the tool more attractive to a broader group of users than the
 innovators and
 early adopters who were already using it.

 It took a while to do those things, and by the time they were done, we
 didn't have
 enough time/money to build a product, get it to market, and become
 cash flow
 positive. We changed our strategy and began to offer training and
 consulting services;
 but we were not able to find enough companies to buy these services
 (soon enough).

 We had made a decision early on not to raise VC or Angel investment in
 the business,
 which in hindsight might have been a good idea.  So, we ran out of
 money.

 I want to thank you, Z* the Watir Journalist, and Charley, and
 Alister, and all the
 many many members of the Watir community who welcomed me and
 encouraged
 us in trying to make a go of WatirCraft.  What an amazing, remarkable
 group of people!

 By the way - Bret and I are in the process of quickly shutting down
 all the bits and
 pieces that make up a company; so if anyone reading this is thinking
 Wait! I would
 like to take over WatirCraft! please contact us right away.

 Soon my WatirCraft email will be disabled, but if anyone wants to
 reach me, you can
 use pdignan at prototest dot com, or petedignan at gmail dot com.
 Thanks again to
 everyone for all your support, good ideas and encouragement.

 Pete

 On Jun 4, 6:37 am, Željko Filipin zeljko.fili...@wa-research.ch
 wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.com
 wrote:
   Pete Dignan and I have decided to shut down WatirCraft LLC.
 
  I am really sorry to hear that. Is it polite to ask why?
 
   I will begin working full time for Convio in July.
 
  Good luck on your new job.
 
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[wtr-general] Re: Running Watir suite from Hudson

2009-05-22 Thread Lisa Crispin
We don't use Watircraft or rspec, but I'll look into that batch task.
Thanks!
-- Lisa

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:33 AM, karim rayani karim@gmail.com wrote:


 yeh watircraft does the same. we need to define the tasks in the spec
 folder and run with the command rake rspec. i did try it for a couple
 of tasks

 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM, al3kc aleks.kiev...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I think the Batch Task is all you need to run your tests. This plugin
  should be installed by default.
  
 



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[wtr-general] Running Watir suite from Hudson

2009-05-21 Thread Lisa Crispin
Is anyone using Hudson to run their Watir suites? Is there a Hudson plugin
for Watir?

We've always run our suites from the DOS window, using testrunner (we use
the test/unit framework). But we really need to get it into a scheduled
build. We can run it on a slave Windows vm from Hudson, but we aren't sure
how to be able to see the results.

Thanks,
Lisa

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[wtr-general] Re: How to work with popups?

2009-05-14 Thread Lisa Crispin
There was a recent thread on this so you may want to search the email
archive.

This is what we do, but I don't know if it is the best way.

  require 'watir\ie'
  require 'watir\contrib\enabled_popup'

  # Main method to click a modal dialog button.
  def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20)
hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time)
if (hwnd)
  w = WinClicker.new
  w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, #{type})
  w=nil
end
  end

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM, satish spanchumar...@gmail.com wrote:


 Can you some one give me an idea how to work with popups.

 Here is my requirement.
 -
 When I click on Save image icon on the IE browser, according to data
 validation rules I will get a warning popup box.

 I will have to validate the warning message on the popup box whether
 it is correct or not and then needs to respond by click on OK
 button.

 Can some one give me an idea around this. I am very new to Watir.
 Appreciate your help.
 

 Here I tried thisbut did not work..
 ==
 require watir
 require win32ole
 require watir/contrib/enabled_popup

 ie.image(:id,

 'ctl00_contentChildWindow_secUserDetails_ctl02_menu_secUserDetails_DXI0_Img').click
 hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(5)
 if (hwnd)  #yeah! a popup
  popup = WinClicker.new
  popup.makeWindowActive(hwnd)
  popup.clickWindowsButton(Windows Internet Explorer, OK, 30)
 end
 ===
 ruby Phone_Mask_Test.rb
 C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.2/lib/watir/contrib/
 enabled_popup.rb:5: uninitialized constant Watir::PageContainer::Win32
 (NameError)
from C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
 `gem_original_require'
from C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
 `require'
from Phone_Mask_Test.rb:4
 Exit code: 1

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[wtr-general] Re: thinking about automation frameworks/harnesses

2009-04-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
Speaking as someone who is definitely OO-challenged and a barely competent
Ruby scripter, I like the simplicity of what Chris did, I can understand it
right away. If I were someone just starting out on Watir, it would make
sense to me.
-- Lisa

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Chris McMahon 
christopher.mcma...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Apr 29, 12:47 am, JArkelen johnvanarke...@gmail.com wrote:
  It wasn't broad criticism, it was just my 2 cents about combining test
  data and object data.

 I don't know what you mean by object data.  Probably a character
 flaw on my part, but that's why I was hoping for an example of what
 you meant.  And since the original example is so tiny (and so
 imperative), refactoring it shouldn't take more than a minute or so.
 



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[wtr-general] Re: What editor should I use for mac?

2009-04-22 Thread Lisa Crispin
I have Eclipse 3.4.1 and it kind of seems like it came with the Ruby
plug-in, but as our sys admin installed it for me (I'm challenged at setting
up Eclipse correctly) maybe he installed the plug-in too. Anyway, works fine
for me.
-- Lisa

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Jeff Fry jeff@gmail.com wrote:

 There isn't a separate ruby version of Eclipse, though you'll want to
 install the ruby plug-in. See the Watir wiki page on Eclipse:
 http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Setting+up+Eclipse+for+Ruby

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Hassan Malik hassanm_...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I am curently SciTe on windows and wold like to try Eclipse. Does it
 matter what version I use? They have Eclipse IDE for Java, C/C++, but I
 don't see one for ruby. http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/



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 *Subject:* [wtr-general] Re: What editor should I use for mac?

 I confess I don't use Watir much on my mac yet - it's on my list to
 someday get the scripts running in Firewatir. But I just use Eclipse to edit
 my Watir scripts on either box. Works well.
 -- Lisa

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Moochie dduph...@redbrickhealth.comwrote:


 I was just give a mac and I've attempted to get watir working on it,
 but it said I couldn't save a file as .rb I could only save it
 as .rtb.

 Also, should I install ubuntu?




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[wtr-general] Re: What editor should I use for mac?

2009-04-21 Thread Lisa Crispin
I confess I don't use Watir much on my mac yet - it's on my list to someday
get the scripts running in Firewatir. But I just use Eclipse to edit my
Watir scripts on either box. Works well.
-- Lisa

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Moochie dduph...@redbrickhealth.comwrote:


 I was just give a mac and I've attempted to get watir working on it,
 but it said I couldn't save a file as .rb I could only save it
 as .rtb.

 Also, should I install ubuntu?
 



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[wtr-general] Re: Error in handling popup

2009-04-08 Thread Lisa Crispin
We seem to do just this. I haven't looked at it in awhile so I'm not sure if
this is everything. This is in a module.

  require 'watir\ie'
  require 'watir\contrib\enabled_popup'

  # Main method to click a modal dialog button.
  def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20)
hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time)
if (hwnd)
  w = WinClicker.new
  w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, #{type})
  w=nil
end
  end



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 Hi

 I'm woking on windows platform and IE7 using WATIR I've used the
 following code for handling JavaScript popup

 require 'win32ole'
 wsh WIN32OLE.new('Wscript.Shell')
  wsh.AppActivate('Windows Internet Explorer')
  wsh.Sendkeys('{ENTER}')

 but its not working i'm getting the following error.
  1) Error:
 test_manage_resources(Manageresources):
 NoMethodError: undefined method `wsh' for #Manageresources:0x2b8c4bc
manageresource.rb:24:in `test_manage_resources'

 Please Please please... give a solution to my problem i'm stuck with
 handling popup from past 2 days..

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[wtr-general] Re: Test Automation? Pashaw!

2009-04-06 Thread Lisa Crispin
 results to be replicated?)
  5) regression suites which are boring as hell to execute manually over
  and over..
 
  One problem is that many of these rarely find bugs after the test is
  first written. and since a tester's goal is generaly to find bugs,
  that can be a problem.
 
  If I'm looking for a quick win, I want something that can benefit the
  entire team, so something like a useful utility script (if you've a
  need for one) or a BVT type test to save people from wasting time with
  bad buids, might be your best bet..  The tests of type 3 are often
  complicated to setup and may require a speciaized environment to run
  them, so that wouldn't be my first choice, OTOH managers LOVE graphs
  and numbers so something that reports on the product performance and
  can be run on each build might be a way to gain some good visibility.
 
  What is it you are assigned to do in terms of scripting?  can you find
  something in there you believe might represent a potential 'quick win'
  and/or  proof-of-concept?
 
  On Apr 4, 11:14 am, George george.sand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   It seems that I've been encountering more people within my workplace
   (and, alas, even within my own QA team!) that are not sold on test
   automation. From what I've learned so far, there seems that automation
   will never cover 100% of what needs to be tested, but this doesn't
   negate the need.
 
   Another frustration is that I've been tasked to write automation
   scripts as part of my year-end goals. However, I haven't been assigned
   hours in my work week to do them! All of my script development has
   been after-hours and weekends (notice I'm posting this on a
   Saturday!).
 
   Has anyone else run into naysayers?  How can I convince the decision-
   makers that this is a worthwhile effort?
 



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[wtr-general] Re: Watir design patterns?

2009-04-04 Thread Lisa Crispin
Gerard Meszaros' book is excellent, I highly recommend it. IMO, the patterns
apply to tests above the unit level equally well.  He also has a lot of
general good test design advice. However, it didn't provide me with any
specific help about how to design Ruby/Watir test scripts.
-- Lisa

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:

 I didnt know about this book, I'll try and check it out. There is also
 xUnit Patterns by Gerard Mezaros ( i think thats the right spelling )
 I think its more appropriate for regular developer unit tests though.

 Paul


 On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.comwrote:


 The Design Patterns in Ruby book by Russ Olsen addresses many of these
 questions. Have you looked at it?

 Bret

 Lisa Crispin wrote:
  +1 on all that. Plus, as someone not very good w/ OO, I want to know
  stuff like when to use a class vs. a mixin, what kind of variables to
  use (global or whatever), tradeoffs of flexibility and maintainability.
 
  I'm sure if we were starting with Watir today, we'd use WatirCraft and
  things would be easier, but now that we're 4 years down the road and
  have a huge suite of scripts, I'm never sure what's the best way
 forward.
  -- Lisa
 
  On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Jim Knowlton jknowlton...@gmail.com
  mailto:jknowlton...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  I think the biggest thing alot of us Watir developers need is a good
  guide to design patterns with Watir.  I know for myself, I know the
  commands and basic syntax pretty well, and can design a test
 structure
  that works, but I'm sure there are things I'm doing that could be
  designed better (I'm a tester, after all, not a full-time
  programmer).  I'd love a guide that describes best practices for how
  to set up a directory structure, set up rake for common tasks, etc.
 
  I know WatirCraft attempts to address this to some extent, but I
 guess
  I'm suggesting that some people might need to design their own
  framework, but not know how to do it.
 
  My two cents.
 
  Jim
 
 
 
 
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[wtr-general] Re: Ramping up your Ruby skills

2009-04-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
I mentioned it!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:

 im surprised no one has mentioned Brian Maricks book,
 Everyday Scripting with 
 Rubyhttp://search.barnesandnoble.com/Everyday-Scripting-with-Ruby/Brian-Marick/e/9780977616619
 Paul


 On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Wesley Chen cjq@gmail.com wrote:

 The book: Pragmatic Bookshelf, Programming Ruby 2nd is really good for
 Ruby studying.

 Thanks.
 Wesley Chen.



 On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:18 AM, George george.sand...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks for the links, Tiffany!

 On Apr 3, 9:02 am, Tiffany Fodor tcfo...@comcast.net wrote:
  Hey Bret!
 
  For some this may be a little remedial, but I really liked Chris
  Pine's 'Learn to Program' tutorial.  He starts out assuming you
  haven't ever written any code at all.  I hadn't written any code for
  several years and this got me up and running in a couple of days.
 
  http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/
 
  Of course, there's lots more to learn after that.  I think the
  Pragmatic Programmers 'Pickaxe' book is the most popular with this
  group:
 
  http://www.rubycentral.com/book/
 
  -Tiffany
 
  On Apr 3, 9:45 am, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.com wrote:
 
   People who are new to Watir often need to learn Ruby to be effective.
   What resources should we recommend for this? What books, websites,
 blogs
   or videos have you found to be helpful? Online training?
 
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[wtr-general] Re: Watir design patterns?

2009-04-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
+1 on all that. Plus, as someone not very good w/ OO, I want to know stuff
like when to use a class vs. a mixin, what kind of variables to use (global
or whatever), tradeoffs of flexibility and maintainability.

I'm sure if we were starting with Watir today, we'd use WatirCraft and
things would be easier, but now that we're 4 years down the road and have a
huge suite of scripts, I'm never sure what's the best way forward.
-- Lisa

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Jim Knowlton jknowlton...@gmail.com wrote:


 I think the biggest thing alot of us Watir developers need is a good
 guide to design patterns with Watir.  I know for myself, I know the
 commands and basic syntax pretty well, and can design a test structure
 that works, but I'm sure there are things I'm doing that could be
 designed better (I'm a tester, after all, not a full-time
 programmer).  I'd love a guide that describes best practices for how
 to set up a directory structure, set up rake for common tasks, etc.

 I know WatirCraft attempts to address this to some extent, but I guess
 I'm suggesting that some people might need to design their own
 framework, but not know how to do it.

 My two cents.

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[wtr-general] Re: Performance Testing

2009-04-02 Thread Lisa Crispin
We have done a baseline with JMeter, we like the tool, but we used BadBoy to
create the scripts (and it was a fairly rudimentary test). I was just
wondering the other day if it's possible to incorporate Watir scripts with
some perf/load test tool. I heard BrowserMob can use Selenium scripts.
-- Lisa

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Jason Shelton jas.shel...@hotmail.comwrote:

  All,

 I am writing to ask the group what tools you all are using for
 performance/load testing on your web apps.  Are you using Watir?  If so, how
 did you structure your tests to simulate multiple users?  Thanks in advance
 for all responses.

 - Shelton

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[wtr-general] Re: Watir users: What is your role at work?

2009-03-05 Thread Lisa Crispin
George, that's interesting that you want to migrate more into development.
The person who wrote most of our Watir scripts (and did a good job with the
design, I think) was a Perl scripter before he came to us, and while he is
still working as a tester / test automation guy, he wants to move back into
development. The tester we hired after he left, who also did a lot of work
on the Watir scripts, decided to learn Java and be a developer so that is
what he has done (still on our team). So I can't help wondering if someone
who succeeds with Watir is always going to be someone with a strong desire
to do programming. I personally love automating test scripts, but I wouldn't
want to write production code. I can't explain why that is (I used to be a
programmer, back in the pre-OO days).

I'm trying to do most of the Watir work now in fear that our latest new
tester might go through the same transition! Just joking, but she also has a
strong programming and automation background. I think that's really required
on a small team like ours.
-- Lisa

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:46 AM, George george.sand...@gmail.com wrote:


 Charley, speaking on that spectrum, I'm just getting into real
 programming, and would like to slide more towards being a real
 developer while retaining and building on my testing skills. Out of
 our entire QA team, I'm becoming the scripting guy, which is kind of
 sad since we all need to be at the same level. Nevertheless, I'm
 thoroughly enjoying my education and it seems that I have some job
 security. I've been tasked to automate testing for all of our web
 applications.

 I hope to go from understanding 20% of the posts on this forum to at
 least 40% :)

 On Mar 4, 2:25 pm, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'm a test developer, with a background in testing as well as
 development.
  Test scripts and automation testing should be run as development projects
 -
  scm, code reviews, ideally paired programming, branch cuts, working with
 the
  production code developers, running, creating and sharing tests.
 
  There's a spectrum of where you place yourself on the scale between
 tester
  and developer. The question definitely deserves a  longer answer.
 Something
  we tried tackling at the td/dt conf a year or two back. As a side note, I
  don't hire people who have no automation experience, there has to be some
  scripting skills.
 
   It's an interesting question.
 
  Charley Baker
  blog:http://charleybakersblog.blogspot.com/
  Lead Developer, Watir,http://wtr.rubyforge.org
  QA Architect, Gap Inc Direct
 
  On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, JArkelen johnvanarke...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
   I'm a test automater en performance tester and use Watir for our
   functional regression tests.
 
   On Mar 4, 6:14 pm, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi George,
I'm a tester, I have learned enough Ruby to maintain and write new
 Watir
scripts, and I know enough Java to sometimes be able to look at a
   traceback
and figure out what the problem might be!
 
It's a great question, I'm curious to know now too. Most Watir people
 I
   know
have solid programming skills, and I think that makes things much
 easier
   all
around for using Watir.
-- Lisa
 
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   - Show quoted text -
 
george.sand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I was just curious to know who is purely a QA tester (like myself)
 and
 who is both a tester and a developer...
 
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[wtr-general] Re: Watir users: What is your role at work?

2009-03-04 Thread Lisa Crispin
Hi George,
I'm a tester, I have learned enough Ruby to maintain and write new Watir
scripts, and I know enough Java to sometimes be able to look at a traceback
and figure out what the problem might be!

It's a great question, I'm curious to know now too. Most Watir people I know
have solid programming skills, and I think that makes things much easier all
around for using Watir.
-- Lisa

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george.sand...@gmail.com wrote:


 I was just curious to know who is purely a QA tester (like myself) and
 who is both a tester and a developer...
 



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[wtr-general] browser seems to hang sporadically

2009-02-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
Has anyone seen this problem running Watir suites in Vista (64-bit) / IE7?

We have a number of Watir suites, plus one big giant suite that includes all
the others, the giant one takes maybe 3 hours to run.

I ran this giant suite for 3+ years unattended on XP / IE6 without too much
trouble - I'd kick it off when I left for the day. Occasionally a script
would get an error I couldn't figure out - it would run fine when I ran it
individually. But probably 4 out of 5 times, it ran fine with no errors at
all.

It took me quite awhile to get everything working on Vista with the latest
Ruby and Watir (1.6.2). If I run the big giant suite, at some point, the
browser window just seems to hang - as if it is waiting for it to render. As
far as I can tell, this doesn't consistently happen in the same place, it
seems pretty random. Usually if I refresh the browser window manually, the
suite can continue.

If I run a large suite unattended, it always does that at some point, and of
course I'm not here to 'wake it up' again. I thought it was because my Vista
and hard drive were sleeping, so I set the sleep setting to 4 hours, but
that didn't help much (definitely if the hard drive sleeps while the suites
are running they will stop, but they get hung up even if the hard drive
doesn't sleep).

My temporary solution is run two suites separately rather than one big one
while I am at work, and keep an eye on it so I can tickle it into going
again if it hangs. But this is kind of a drag, I can't use the PC really
while the scripts are running (I have a Mac and a Linux box to use so that
isn't a giant problem but an annoyance). I've spent so much time on this
that I have to move on, at least I can run the tests. I'm just wondering if
anyone else has experienced the same problem? Is there some better way to
run Watir scripts as a regression suite?

thanks,
Lisa

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[wtr-general] Re: scripts for IE and Firefox both

2009-01-30 Thread Lisa Crispin
My hope was: 1 set of scripts, different runtime parameters, works on mac or
linux firefox and windows IE.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:


 I think applescript will do it on macs, but its another variable into
 the regression mix.

 Paul

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.com
 wrote:
 
  Maybe someone else knows how to handle this on Macs. Like I've said
  before, i've never needed to work with these dialogs before for any of
  my clients, so i've never taken much time to research the possibilities.
 
  Bret
 
  Lisa Crispin wrote:
  Thanks, Bret. I was hoping to make it work with Firefox on the mac,
  actually. But it sounds like that's a non starter.
 
  I will pursue these issues more with my team!
  thanks
  Lisa
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.com
  mailto:b...@pettichord.com wrote:
 
 
  Lisa,
 
  The problem with your code is that it is specific to both Windows
 and
  IE. Making it work with Firefox on Windows is a medium sized
 problem,
  but it still wouldn't help your developers with their macs. Off
  hand, I
  wouldn't know how to start on getting this work on other platforms.
 
  And yes, these kinds of dialogs are somewhat weird. Few apps use
 them
  today, they are considered poor design. Nowadays developers get
  the same
  effect using lighboxes which end up being modal according the
 strict
  definition of modal, but the look better. And they are fairly
  easy to
  handle with Watir on both IE and Firefox (on Windows and Macs).
 
  Bret
 
  Lisa Crispin wrote:
   To clarify - our Watir scripts handle our modal dialogs in IE just
   fine. For example:
   def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20)
   hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time)
   if (hwnd)
 w = WinClicker.new
 w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, #{type})
 w=nil
   end
 end
  
   I'm looking for affirmation that we will never be able to get
 these
   scripts to work with modal dialogs in Firefox unless the test
   automation fairy turns me into some better kind of programmer and
 I
   can add this functionality to Watir myself.
  
   I'm puzzled though - are modal dialogs weird? Do most apps not use
   them? What do you use instead?
   thanks
   Lisa
  
   On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Paul Rogers
  paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca
   mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:
  
  
   ok, modal dialogs are a different beast entirely.
  
   I dont have a need for dialog support right now, and am
  working on
   drag and drop support in watir.
  
   If you are only require ing this on windows, you might want
  to look
   into autoit - if you want cros platform, no idea.
  
   Paul
  
  
  
   On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Lisa Crispin
   lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
  mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
  wrote:
I guess I mean regular js pop up boxes. A modal dialog
 window
   that pops up
and you have to click ok to keep going. They look the
  same in
   firefox as
in IE.
Lisa
   
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Paul Rogers
   paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca
  mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:
   
what do you use in Firefox for the modaldialogs?
   
or do you mean regular js pop up boxes?
   
Paul
   
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Crispin
   lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
  mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi, I hope this isn't too annoying of a question. I'm
 just
   trying to
 decide
 our next steps wrt Watir and our test automation. I just
   thought I'd
 double
 check on what I think I know already.

 I spent the last several weeks getting our Watir suites
   working with v.
 1.6.2 and Vista. I finally beat them into submission,
  and I'm
   exhausted.
 (This is not a reflection on Watir, but probably on the
   design of our
 scripts, and definitely on my lack of expertise).

 My ultimate goal was to get these scripts working with
   Firefox also, and
 I
 had some hope when I first read about 1.6.2 that this
 would
   be possible.
 However, I recall that Bret replied

[wtr-general] Re: scripts for IE and Firefox both

2009-01-30 Thread Lisa Crispin
Our app works fine, maybe because it's so old school, who knows! ;-

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:


 im guessing many developers would hope for:
 1 set of html pages, works on mac or linux firefox and windows IE

 ;-)

 Its really hard to do cross browser web apps well, and there are
 usually many more developers than testers, so dont be too disappointed
 you havent got cross browser/platform test software just yet.

 Paul


 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  My hope was: 1 set of scripts, different runtime parameters, works on mac
 or
  linux firefox and windows IE.
 
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca
 wrote:
 
  I think applescript will do it on macs, but its another variable into
  the regression mix.
 
  Paul
 
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.com
  wrote:
  
   Maybe someone else knows how to handle this on Macs. Like I've said
   before, i've never needed to work with these dialogs before for any of
   my clients, so i've never taken much time to research the
 possibilities.
  
   Bret
  
   Lisa Crispin wrote:
   Thanks, Bret. I was hoping to make it work with Firefox on the mac,
   actually. But it sounds like that's a non starter.
  
   I will pursue these issues more with my team!
   thanks
   Lisa
  
   On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Bret Pettichord 
 b...@pettichord.com
   mailto:b...@pettichord.com wrote:
  
  
   Lisa,
  
   The problem with your code is that it is specific to both Windows
   and
   IE. Making it work with Firefox on Windows is a medium sized
   problem,
   but it still wouldn't help your developers with their macs. Off
   hand, I
   wouldn't know how to start on getting this work on other
 platforms.
  
   And yes, these kinds of dialogs are somewhat weird. Few apps use
   them
   today, they are considered poor design. Nowadays developers get
   the same
   effect using lighboxes which end up being modal according the
   strict
   definition of modal, but the look better. And they are fairly
   easy to
   handle with Watir on both IE and Firefox (on Windows and Macs).
  
   Bret
  
   Lisa Crispin wrote:
To clarify - our Watir scripts handle our modal dialogs in IE
   just
fine. For example:
def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20)
hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time)
if (hwnd)
  w = WinClicker.new
  w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, #{type})
  w=nil
end
  end
   
I'm looking for affirmation that we will never be able to get
   these
scripts to work with modal dialogs in Firefox unless the test
automation fairy turns me into some better kind of programmer
 and
   I
can add this functionality to Watir myself.
   
I'm puzzled though - are modal dialogs weird? Do most apps not
   use
them? What do you use instead?
thanks
Lisa
   
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Paul Rogers
   paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca
mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca
 wrote:
   
   
ok, modal dialogs are a different beast entirely.
   
I dont have a need for dialog support right now, and am
   working on
drag and drop support in watir.
   
If you are only require ing this on windows, you might want
   to look
into autoit - if you want cros platform, no idea.
   
Paul
   
   
   
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Lisa Crispin
lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 I guess I mean regular js pop up boxes. A modal dialog
   window
that pops up
 and you have to click ok to keep going. They look the
   same in
firefox as
 in IE.
 Lisa

 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Paul Rogers
paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca
   mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca
 wrote:

 what do you use in Firefox for the modaldialogs?

 or do you mean regular js pop up boxes?

 Paul

 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Crispin
lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi, I hope this isn't too annoying of a question. I'm
   just
trying to
  decide
  our next steps wrt Watir and our test automation. I
 just
thought I'd

[wtr-general] scripts for IE and Firefox both

2009-01-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
Hi, I hope this isn't too annoying of a question. I'm just trying to decide
our next steps wrt Watir and our test automation. I just thought I'd double
check on what I think I know already.

I spent the last several weeks getting our Watir suites working with v.
1.6.2 and Vista. I finally beat them into submission, and I'm exhausted.
(This is not a reflection on Watir, but probably on the design of our
scripts, and definitely on my lack of expertise).

My ultimate goal was to get these scripts working with Firefox also, and I
had some hope when I first read about 1.6.2 that this would be possible.
However, I recall that Bret replied to one of my emails relating to dealing
with modal dialogs this way:

I'm saying that I do not have a plan on how to support modal dialog
testing that will work with both IE and Firefox, and as far as I know,
 no one else is working on this.

I'm wondering if this means we should abandon all hope of ever being able to
run our scripts against Firefox (which would make them a lot easier to
integrate with our build process, as well as easier for the developers who
all use Macs to run them to help with their own testing)?

The developers could run the scripts on their Parallels or VMWare, but the
scripts run very slowly there for some reason. Should we be thinking about
migrating to a different browser driver if we want to have scripts that
everyone can use to help with testing? We have good tools for our automated
regression tests, and I guess we could adapt those tests to do the same
purpose of Watir, it just happened that it was the Watir scripts that got
all the good flexibility that make them handy for setting up test scenarios.

Do other people have automated scripts to help with exploratory testing and
manual testing, and if so, what tools do you use for that? Or are other
people just luckier and don't have modal dialogs to deal with?

Thanks,
Lisa

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[wtr-general] Re: scripts for IE and Firefox both

2009-01-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
To clarify - our Watir scripts handle our modal dialogs in IE just fine. For
example:
def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20)
hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time)
if (hwnd)
  w = WinClicker.new
  w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, #{type})
  w=nil
end
  end

I'm looking for affirmation that we will never be able to get these scripts
to work with modal dialogs in Firefox unless the test automation fairy turns
me into some better kind of programmer and I can add this functionality to
Watir myself.

I'm puzzled though - are modal dialogs weird? Do most apps not use them?
What do you use instead?
thanks
Lisa

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:


 ok, modal dialogs are a different beast entirely.

 I dont have a need for dialog support right now, and am working on
 drag and drop support in watir.

 If you are only require ing this on windows, you might want to look
 into autoit - if you want cros platform, no idea.

 Paul



 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I guess I mean regular js pop up boxes. A modal dialog window that pops
 up
  and you have to click ok to keep going. They look the same in firefox
 as
  in IE.
  Lisa
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca
 wrote:
 
  what do you use in Firefox for the modaldialogs?
 
  or do you mean regular js pop up boxes?
 
  Paul
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi, I hope this isn't too annoying of a question. I'm just trying to
   decide
   our next steps wrt Watir and our test automation. I just thought I'd
   double
   check on what I think I know already.
  
   I spent the last several weeks getting our Watir suites working with
 v.
   1.6.2 and Vista. I finally beat them into submission, and I'm
 exhausted.
   (This is not a reflection on Watir, but probably on the design of our
   scripts, and definitely on my lack of expertise).
  
   My ultimate goal was to get these scripts working with Firefox also,
 and
   I
   had some hope when I first read about 1.6.2 that this would be
 possible.
   However, I recall that Bret replied to one of my emails relating to
   dealing
   with modal dialogs this way:
  
   I'm saying that I do not have a plan on how to support modal dialog
   testing that will work with both IE and Firefox, and as far as I know,
   no one else is working on this.
  
   I'm wondering if this means we should abandon all hope of ever being
   able to
   run our scripts against Firefox (which would make them a lot easier to
   integrate with our build process, as well as easier for the developers
   who
   all use Macs to run them to help with their own testing)?
  
   The developers could run the scripts on their Parallels or VMWare, but
   the
   scripts run very slowly there for some reason. Should we be thinking
   about
   migrating to a different browser driver if we want to have scripts
 that
   everyone can use to help with testing? We have good tools for our
   automated
   regression tests, and I guess we could adapt those tests to do the
 same
   purpose of Watir, it just happened that it was the Watir scripts that
   got
   all the good flexibility that make them handy for setting up test
   scenarios.
  
   Do other people have automated scripts to help with exploratory
 testing
   and
   manual testing, and if so, what tools do you use for that? Or are
 other
   people just luckier and don't have modal dialogs to deal with?
  
   Thanks,
   Lisa
  
  
  
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Lisa Crispin
  Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for
 Testers
  and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009)
  http://lisacrispin.com
 
 
  
 

 



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[wtr-general] Re: scripts for IE and Firefox both

2009-01-29 Thread Lisa Crispin
Thanks, Bret. I was hoping to make it work with Firefox on the mac,
actually. But it sounds like that's a non starter.

I will pursue these issues more with my team!
thanks
Lisa

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Bret Pettichord b...@pettichord.comwrote:


 Lisa,

 The problem with your code is that it is specific to both Windows and
 IE. Making it work with Firefox on Windows is a medium sized problem,
 but it still wouldn't help your developers with their macs. Off hand, I
 wouldn't know how to start on getting this work on other platforms.

 And yes, these kinds of dialogs are somewhat weird. Few apps use them
 today, they are considered poor design. Nowadays developers get the same
 effect using lighboxes which end up being modal according the strict
 definition of modal, but the look better. And they are fairly easy to
 handle with Watir on both IE and Firefox (on Windows and Macs).

 Bret

 Lisa Crispin wrote:
  To clarify - our Watir scripts handle our modal dialogs in IE just
  fine. For example:
  def click_modal_button(ie, type='OK', sleep_time=6, timeout=20)
  hwnd = ie.enabled_popup(sleep_time)
  if (hwnd)
w = WinClicker.new
w.clickWindowsButton_hwnd( hwnd, #{type})
w=nil
  end
end
 
  I'm looking for affirmation that we will never be able to get these
  scripts to work with modal dialogs in Firefox unless the test
  automation fairy turns me into some better kind of programmer and I
  can add this functionality to Watir myself.
 
  I'm puzzled though - are modal dialogs weird? Do most apps not use
  them? What do you use instead?
  thanks
  Lisa
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Paul Rogers paul.rog...@shaw.ca
  mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 
  ok, modal dialogs are a different beast entirely.
 
  I dont have a need for dialog support right now, and am working on
  drag and drop support in watir.
 
  If you are only require ing this on windows, you might want to look
  into autoit - if you want cros platform, no idea.
 
  Paul
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Lisa Crispin
  lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com wrote:
   I guess I mean regular js pop up boxes. A modal dialog window
  that pops up
   and you have to click ok to keep going. They look the same in
  firefox as
   in IE.
   Lisa
  
   On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Paul Rogers
  paul.rog...@shaw.ca mailto:paul.rog...@shaw.ca wrote:
  
   what do you use in Firefox for the modaldialogs?
  
   or do you mean regular js pop up boxes?
  
   Paul
  
   On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Crispin
  lisa.cris...@gmail.com mailto:lisa.cris...@gmail.com
   wrote:
Hi, I hope this isn't too annoying of a question. I'm just
  trying to
decide
our next steps wrt Watir and our test automation. I just
  thought I'd
double
check on what I think I know already.
   
I spent the last several weeks getting our Watir suites
  working with v.
1.6.2 and Vista. I finally beat them into submission, and I'm
  exhausted.
(This is not a reflection on Watir, but probably on the
  design of our
scripts, and definitely on my lack of expertise).
   
My ultimate goal was to get these scripts working with
  Firefox also, and
I
had some hope when I first read about 1.6.2 that this would
  be possible.
However, I recall that Bret replied to one of my emails
  relating to
dealing
with modal dialogs this way:
   
I'm saying that I do not have a plan on how to support modal
  dialog
testing that will work with both IE and Firefox, and as far
  as I know,
no one else is working on this.
   
I'm wondering if this means we should abandon all hope of
  ever being
able to
run our scripts against Firefox (which would make them a lot
  easier to
integrate with our build process, as well as easier for the
  developers
who
all use Macs to run them to help with their own testing)?
   
The developers could run the scripts on their Parallels or
  VMWare, but
the
scripts run very slowly there for some reason. Should we be
  thinking
about
migrating to a different browser driver if we want to have
  scripts that
everyone can use to help with testing? We have good tools for
 our
automated
regression tests, and I guess we could adapt those tests to
  do the same
purpose of Watir, it just happened that it was the Watir
  scripts that
got
all the good flexibility that make them handy for setting up
 test
scenarios.
   
Do other people have automated scripts to help with
  exploratory testing
and
manual

[wtr-general] Re: Agile testing book

2009-01-21 Thread Lisa Crispin
Thank y'all for your support! I'm interested to know what people think of
it. Janet and I are big mind map fans, so we're glad to get positive
feedback on that.

Gojko's book is really good, +1 on that recommendation.
-- Lisa

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Lisa,

   I'm more than happy to support the authors, so I did order a copy and
 will add my review on Amazon. :)  After leafing through it at AWTA, I'm
 really excited to read it. The mind maps for the chapters is one of the
 coolest things I've seen.

 Sai,
   Also ordered a copy of Gojko's book as well.

 There must be something in the Watir, having a few great authors on this
 mailing list. :)

 -Charley




 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:43 PM, sai saidesertrose2...@gmail.com wrote:



 Cool.. I am planning to buy one. As well Gojko's book on Bridging the
 communication gap is also good.

 Regards,
 Sai

 http://code.google.com/p/chrome-watir
 http://code.google.com/p/flash-watir

 On Jan 21, 9:04 am, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
   There are a few books that I recommend having on your shelf, this is
  one. I've just ordered this book, and am looking forward to reading
  it.
 http://www.amazon.com/Agile-Testing-Practical-Addison-Wesley-Signatur...
 
  This looks to be an interesting book. Ping me for book recommendations
  on various topics.
 
  -c



 



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Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for Testers
and Agile Teams_ (Addison-Wesley 2009)
http://lisacrispin.com

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[wtr-general] Re: figured it out Re: stupid install problem

2008-12-28 Thread Lisa Crispin
I didn't think so either. I had just installed it a few weeks ago on the
exact same configuration.
-- Lisa

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Charley Baker charley.ba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Strange, you shouldn't have to do that in Windows. The one click installer
 used to do it.
 -c


 On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 I had to add RUBYOPT -rubygems to my environment variables - I have NO
 memory of ever doing that before, did Watir or Ruby change, or are my brain
 cells just dying off faster than usual? Sigh.

 On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,
 My mac had a hard disk disaster, and only after that did I discover I had
 had a time machine backup disaster earlier, so I didn't have a backup from
 after I got watir working on my vmware windows xp on the mac.

 I reinstalled using the same steps I had done a few weeks back, but my
 watir scripts don't work, I get an error that watir isn't found. When I do
 irb and require 'watir', I get this:
 irb(main):001:0 require 'watir'
 LoadError: no such file to load -- watir
 from (irb):1:in `require'
 from (irb):1

 I see emails on this list saying you have to require 'rubygems' before
 require 'watir', and that *does* work, however, I never did that before.

 Do I now have to go edit every Watir script I have and add require
 'rubygems'? And is that going to work on a real PC? (I'm at home where I
 don't have a PC right now).

 I've never had problems like this installing watir - I have the latest of
 both Ruby and Watir
 ruby 1.8.6 patch level 287
 watir 1.6.2

 I installed per the instructions on
 http://wtr.rubyforge.org/install.html

 This stuff only happens to me when I'm at home and have no other options!
 :-

 Thanks,
 Lisa

 Thanks,
 Lisa









 



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[wtr-general] stupid install problem

2008-12-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
Hi all,
My mac had a hard disk disaster, and only after that did I discover I had
had a time machine backup disaster earlier, so I didn't have a backup from
after I got watir working on my vmware windows xp on the mac.

I reinstalled using the same steps I had done a few weeks back, but my watir
scripts don't work, I get an error that watir isn't found. When I do irb and
require 'watir', I get this:
irb(main):001:0 require 'watir'
LoadError: no such file to load -- watir
from (irb):1:in `require'
from (irb):1

I see emails on this list saying you have to require 'rubygems' before
require 'watir', and that *does* work, however, I never did that before.

Do I now have to go edit every Watir script I have and add require
'rubygems'? And is that going to work on a real PC? (I'm at home where I
don't have a PC right now).

I've never had problems like this installing watir - I have the latest of
both Ruby and Watir
ruby 1.8.6 patch level 287
watir 1.6.2

I installed per the instructions on http://wtr.rubyforge.org/install.html

This stuff only happens to me when I'm at home and have no other options!
:-

Thanks,
Lisa

Thanks,
Lisa

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[wtr-general] figured it out Re: stupid install problem

2008-12-26 Thread Lisa Crispin
I had to add RUBYOPT -rubygems to my environment variables - I have NO
memory of ever doing that before, did Watir or Ruby change, or are my brain
cells just dying off faster than usual? Sigh.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Lisa Crispin lisa.cris...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,
 My mac had a hard disk disaster, and only after that did I discover I had
 had a time machine backup disaster earlier, so I didn't have a backup from
 after I got watir working on my vmware windows xp on the mac.

 I reinstalled using the same steps I had done a few weeks back, but my
 watir scripts don't work, I get an error that watir isn't found. When I do
 irb and require 'watir', I get this:
 irb(main):001:0 require 'watir'
 LoadError: no such file to load -- watir
 from (irb):1:in `require'
 from (irb):1

 I see emails on this list saying you have to require 'rubygems' before
 require 'watir', and that *does* work, however, I never did that before.

 Do I now have to go edit every Watir script I have and add require
 'rubygems'? And is that going to work on a real PC? (I'm at home where I
 don't have a PC right now).

 I've never had problems like this installing watir - I have the latest of
 both Ruby and Watir
 ruby 1.8.6 patch level 287
 watir 1.6.2

 I installed per the instructions on http://wtr.rubyforge.org/install.html

 This stuff only happens to me when I'm at home and have no other options!
 :-

 Thanks,
 Lisa

 Thanks,
 Lisa



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[wtr-general] Re: Is the FireWatir-Watir integration working for you?

2008-12-18 Thread Lisa Crispin
I just haven't had time to get it working. Actually I haven't even had time
to get my whole suite of tests working again. They run individually, but
fail in a suite - windows are not getting closed and the next test fails.
The suite ran before fine although we had been having random failures we
couldn't figure out. This is a big problem for us but we've been swamped. I
am determined to figure it out this sprint and we added a story this sprint
to be sure we have time.

It is ultimately our goal to be able to use FireWatir since 100% of our team
works on a Mac. A couple of us also have PCs.

I am excited about the potential, though! I guess it's a movie I really,
really want to see how it ends!
-- Lisa

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Pete Dignan p...@watircraft.com wrote:


 I'm curious, now that 1.6.2 has been out for a little while.  Is the
 integration of FireWatir and Watir working for you?  Are you using it
 to test on both IE and Firefox? Are there issues that are preventing
 you from using it effectively? If 1.6.2 were a movie and you were a
 movie critic, how many stars would you give it?

 Pete
 



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[wtr-general] Re: 1.6.2: Issue with enabled_popup.rb

2008-12-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
As someone whose programming skills are limited, and who primarily works as
a tester, it's hard for me to understand what you're saying.

We've been running a big Watir suite for a few years now and it has handled
our modal dialogs fairly well up to now. That took a bit of doing but we got
it stable.

I don't know what showModalDialogs is so I need to go look that up - would
that solve our problem of being able to close the modal dialogs?

Or are you saying modal dialogs aren't really supported? If that is true,
are these our only choices:
1. Go back to the previous version of Watir and stay there forever, or until
modal dialog support is provided (which sounds chancy as apparently we're
the only ones using modal dialogs a lot?)
2. Dump Watir and look for another tool - we have a huge investment in our
scripts and depend on them and I really don't want to do that.

Am I overreacting - I just don't quite understand what you're saying.

Thanks,
Lisa

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The reason that enabled popup is in contrib is to indicate that it is
 unsupported code.

 I've never used Watir's modal dialog support for production testing
 (except for showModalDialogs, which i've used and which IMHO has
 excellent support). The support for the other modal dialogs needs work
 simply for IE much less working on how to make this work cross-platform.
 Some of this code is not in contrib, although it probably should be.

 I've always found it easier to avoid dealing with modal dialogs, so I've
 never had personal motivation to work on this code.

 I've considered removing the nascent support for modal dialogs from
 Watir entirely (perhaps bundling as a separate gem), to help telegraph
 that this code is not being maintained or supported. Perhaps this would
 help this code find a new owner.

 Bret

 Lisa Crispin wrote:
  Hi Bret,
  Just to clarify - So for now we have to use require 'watir\ie' in
  order to require 'watir\contrib\enabled_popup', but in the next
  version, we won't have to use require 'watir\ie', correct?
 
  My next question may be ignorant - if we want to be able to run our
  scripts in firewatir as well as watir, does that mean we can't use
  this enabled_popup thing to deal with modal dialogs? In that case, how
  DO we deal with modal dialogs?
  thanks,
  Lisa
 
  On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  i've added the require statement to the enabled popup script
  itself, so
  this workaround will not be required with the next version of watir
 
  jpweston wrote:
   Thanks for this and your explanation in the Uninitialzied
 Constant
   post.
  
   j.
  
   On Nov 12, 9:17 pm, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   the solution is to add require 'watir/ie' to your script
  
   jpweston wrote:
  
   After installing WATIR 1.6.2, scripts that have the following
  line:
   require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup' are causing the
  following error:
  
   c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.2/lib/watir/contrib/
   enabled_popup.rb:5: uninitialized constant
  Watir::PageContainer::Win32
   (NameError)
  from
  c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
   `gem_original_require'
  from
  c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
   `require'
  
   Here is what I have at the top of my scripts:
  
   require 'test/unit'
   require 'ci/reporter/rake/test_unit_loader.rb'
   require 'watir'
   require 'watir/testcase'
   require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup'
  
   class TC_sales_tests  Watir::TestCase
  
 include Watir
  
   code
  
   end
  
   Can someone point me toward what I am doing wrong here?  These
  scripts
   worked with the version of 1.5 that I had installed.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Johnathan
  
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  


 



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[wtr-general] Re: 1.6.2: Issue with enabled_popup.rb

2008-12-03 Thread Lisa Crispin
Oh, ok. That kinda sucks, but we were already used to not being able to run
the suites w/ firefox. But just to make sure - should it work with IE in the
latest version?
thanks,
Lisa

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm saying that I do not have a plan on how to support modal dialog
 testing that will work with both IE and Firefox, and as far as I know,
 no one else is working on this.

 Bret

 Lisa Crispin wrote:
  As someone whose programming skills are limited, and who primarily
  works as a tester, it's hard for me to understand what you're saying.
 
  We've been running a big Watir suite for a few years now and it has
  handled our modal dialogs fairly well up to now. That took a bit of
  doing but we got it stable.
 
  I don't know what showModalDialogs is so I need to go look that up -
  would that solve our problem of being able to close the modal dialogs?
 
  Or are you saying modal dialogs aren't really supported? If that is
  true, are these our only choices:
  1. Go back to the previous version of Watir and stay there forever, or
  until modal dialog support is provided (which sounds chancy as
  apparently we're the only ones using modal dialogs a lot?)
  2. Dump Watir and look for another tool - we have a huge investment in
  our scripts and depend on them and I really don't want to do that.
 
  Am I overreacting - I just don't quite understand what you're saying.
 
  Thanks,
  Lisa
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  The reason that enabled popup is in contrib is to indicate that
  it is
  unsupported code.
 
  I've never used Watir's modal dialog support for production testing
  (except for showModalDialogs, which i've used and which IMHO has
  excellent support). The support for the other modal dialogs needs
 work
  simply for IE much less working on how to make this work
  cross-platform.
  Some of this code is not in contrib, although it probably should be.
 
  I've always found it easier to avoid dealing with modal dialogs,
  so I've
  never had personal motivation to work on this code.
 
  I've considered removing the nascent support for modal dialogs from
  Watir entirely (perhaps bundling as a separate gem), to help
 telegraph
  that this code is not being maintained or supported. Perhaps this
  would
  help this code find a new owner.
 
  Bret
 
  Lisa Crispin wrote:
   Hi Bret,
   Just to clarify - So for now we have to use require 'watir\ie' in
   order to require 'watir\contrib\enabled_popup', but in the next
   version, we won't have to use require 'watir\ie', correct?
  
   My next question may be ignorant - if we want to be able to run our
   scripts in firewatir as well as watir, does that mean we can't use
   this enabled_popup thing to deal with modal dialogs? In that
  case, how
   DO we deal with modal dialogs?
   thanks,
   Lisa
  
   On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Bret Pettichord
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   i've added the require statement to the enabled popup script
   itself, so
   this workaround will not be required with the next version
  of watir
  
   jpweston wrote:
Thanks for this and your explanation in the Uninitialzied
  Constant
post.
   
j.
   
On Nov 12, 9:17 pm, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   
the solution is to add require 'watir/ie' to your script
   
jpweston wrote:
   
After installing WATIR 1.6.2, scripts that have the
  following
   line:
require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup' are causing the
   following error:
   
   
  c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.2/lib/watir/contrib/
enabled_popup.rb:5: uninitialized constant
   Watir::PageContainer::Win32
(NameError)
   from
   c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`gem_original_require'
   from
   c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
`require'
   
Here is what I have at the top of my scripts:
   
require 'test/unit'
require 'ci/reporter/rake/test_unit_loader.rb'
require 'watir'
require 'watir/testcase'
require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup'
   
class TC_sales_tests  Watir::TestCase
   
  include Watir
   
code

[wtr-general] Re: 1.6.2: Issue with enabled_popup.rb

2008-11-28 Thread Lisa Crispin
Hi Bret,
Just to clarify - So for now we have to use require 'watir\ie' in order to
require 'watir\contrib\enabled_popup', but in the next version, we won't
have to use require 'watir\ie', correct?

My next question may be ignorant - if we want to be able to run our scripts
in firewatir as well as watir, does that mean we can't use this
enabled_popup thing to deal with modal dialogs? In that case, how DO we deal
with modal dialogs?
thanks,
Lisa

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 i've added the require statement to the enabled popup script itself, so
 this workaround will not be required with the next version of watir

 jpweston wrote:
  Thanks for this and your explanation in the Uninitialzied Constant
  post.
 
  j.
 
  On Nov 12, 9:17 pm, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  the solution is to add require 'watir/ie' to your script
 
  jpweston wrote:
 
  After installing WATIR 1.6.2, scripts that have the following line:
  require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup' are causing the following error:
 
  c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.2/lib/watir/contrib/
  enabled_popup.rb:5: uninitialized constant Watir::PageContainer::Win32
  (NameError)
 from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
  `gem_original_require'
 from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
  `require'
 
  Here is what I have at the top of my scripts:
 
  require 'test/unit'
  require 'ci/reporter/rake/test_unit_loader.rb'
  require 'watir'
  require 'watir/testcase'
  require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup'
 
  class TC_sales_tests  Watir::TestCase
 
include Watir
 
  code
 
  end
 
  Can someone point me toward what I am doing wrong here?  These scripts
  worked with the version of 1.5 that I had installed.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Johnathan
 
  
 


 


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[wtr-general] 1.6.2 - browser.attach question

2008-11-28 Thread Lisa Crispin
Another question - on the development site you say:
Watir 1.6.2 does not support Browser.attach. This will be supported in a
future version.
We use Browser.attach when we run our tests in a suite.

What are we supposed to do instead, since Browser.attach isn't supported in
1.6.2? Or does this mean we can't use 1.6.2 at all? It seems weird that you
couldn't run suites, there must be a way to do it that I just don't know
about.
Thanks,
Lisa


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 i've added the require statement to the enabled popup script itself, so
 this workaround will not be required with the next version of watir

 jpweston wrote:
  Thanks for this and your explanation in the Uninitialzied Constant
  post.
 
  j.
 
  On Nov 12, 9:17 pm, Bret Pettichord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  the solution is to add require 'watir/ie' to your script
 
  jpweston wrote:
 
  After installing WATIR 1.6.2, scripts that have the following line:
  require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup' are causing the following error:
 
  c:/ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-1.6.2/lib/watir/contrib/
  enabled_popup.rb:5: uninitialized constant Watir::PageContainer::Win32
  (NameError)
 from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
  `gem_original_require'
 from c:/ruby/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
  `require'
 
  Here is what I have at the top of my scripts:
 
  require 'test/unit'
  require 'ci/reporter/rake/test_unit_loader.rb'
  require 'watir'
  require 'watir/testcase'
  require 'watir/contrib/enabled_popup'
 
  class TC_sales_tests  Watir::TestCase
 
include Watir
 
  code
 
  end
 
  Can someone point me toward what I am doing wrong here?  These scripts
  worked with the version of 1.5 that I had installed.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Johnathan
 
  
 


 


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[wtr-general] oci8

2008-11-13 Thread Lisa Crispin
I just upgraded to Vista 64 bit and had to reinstall everything. I installed
Oracle Instant Client 10g, my sql*plus works and all so that's good. I am
kind of stumped on oci8. When I go to the download, I don't see any download
file that looks like it is for 64 bit. I tried installing
ruby-oci8-1.0.3-ms2win32.rb even though it has 32 in the name, not 64. When
I run my Watir script that uses oci8, it comes back and says it can't find
oci.dll. I have an oci.dll in my Oracle directory, so I must be missing an
environment variable or registry setting - but wouldn't the Oracle install
set up everything that's needed?

Do I have the wrong version of oci8, and if so, what would be the correct
one?

Do I need an environment variable, if so, what? I tried adding ORACLE_HOME
(which the oracle client install did not add) but that didn't help. It seems
like the 64 bit has all new ways of doing things.

I've been researching on the web for about 3 hours now and I'm getting
frustrated, is anyone using oci8 on Vista 64 bit?
thanks,
Lisa

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