I've got another ailment
While I enjoyed the cases of ployschwamp-maina stories, I held off for a few days reporting my ailment, not to confuse folks. I don't have that one. I need to report though, that I've got it. No, I'm not a big bundle of singing talent (remember I'm the Untrained Voice). It has nothing to do with the uvula, or the patella oblingata. Is nothing that a hanging sling, or breathin' in a fan will help. Its not low sugar-blood content or a weak pulse, nor nothing that Indian Elixir would solve. Its not the Beasleys, the German Beasleys, or the Versitis. It is quite simply the schwamps (Andy Griffith version of the mumps). You see I have this obsession to watch episodes of our favorite show and look for those obscure background characters like...well of course Mr. Schwamp, Nice Dress Nellie, Horn-Rimmed Harry, Tom Jacobs, Joe Hamilton. Etc. The ailment is named, of course, after the most famous of these characters. This affliction, is something that I must attribute to the electronal marvel of the DVD Player. Now that we have TAGS DVDs, its easy to search, back up zoom in, etc. It is that marvel that I give credit for now identifying 22 Schwamp episodes and counting. He is mentioned in many of the books on The Andy Griffith Show, but most list only about 6-8 appearances. This website of ours, is the only place, I believe, you will find all 22 !!! http://www.mayberrygossipclub.com/gossip/index.php?title=Mr._Schwamp The last couple I found are so obscure, I'm a little embarrassed to admit it. In Don't Miss a Good Bet he can only be seen from the rear and side of his face. In The Statue, he is waaay in the background with a hat on. Go ahead, take a look. After a little more viewing, I hope to work with Allan on pages on the Gossip website for Nice Dress Nelly, and Tom Jacobs. That's one thing that is fun, 40 years after the show was made, delving deeper into the mysteries of all the characters...being a true Trained Noticer. Don't get to close to me...or you might catch a case of the Schwamp (symptoms, bleary eyes, and twitchy remote control finger, uncontrollable grinning and nodding...and possible hair loss) The Untrained Voice, Sgt. At Arms Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support Group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Pickups and Schwamp From Porch and Pool
Well, we completed the investigation on Helen. She does have a porch, just like someone mentioned. In addition to the episode where Barney and Goober spy, when the Darlings are seeking her as a wife for one of the boys, we see the Porch again. What is strange is the Door that Andy walks Helen to after the big Frank (blamed gradin manual) blow-up. There is no porch at that door. There is a door bell and a house number--but no porch. Back Door?? Possible. But why the house number? Maybe she was painting and that makes a mess, so she went to a neighbor. Or maybe her Landlady put in a side door for her to enter after fight with Andy?? Just one of these inconsistencies us Trained Noticers love to find. I'm really glad Ken brought up the Taylor Porch. There have been nice stories, as well as good porch sightings. Now Laura Lee, about Helen locking herself in jail..The first time she was being chased in that direction, it just seemed like the place to go. The second time, I guess she just knew it was safe. Also, it had been a long time since anyone had locked themselves in...Maybe she was just missing Barney. There is only one Schwamp (no twins Kim), but I noticed something interesting in the episode that Andy got the check for $1000. Mr. Schwamp is right there with the other men in the Courthouse looking at the check, but who does Goober mention?? Mr. Schlummer!! Ole Man Schlummer, you might recall, is the Real Estate guy who smokes cee-gars and drives a rattle-trap car when somebody comes in and wants to buy a house. Why would Goober mention him along with Floyd and George the TV man?? I think he meant to say SchwampOf course Mr. Schwamp didn't say anything. He didn't want to make Goober look bad. He just smiled. Now all them zeroes boys is the key to the whole thing The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Helen's porch
Thanks for the porch list. I'm going to have to fill out a from 2 dash 80 and go back and check on Helen. She did appear to have a porch when Barney and Goober spied or her and Andy..but When Andy walked her home after the big blamed gradin' manual blow up with Frank, he walked her up to a stoop only. Hmm, What about when the Darlings serenaded her? Porch I think. Course she did only rent..remember Andy was supposed to get a picture of somebody for her Land-lady when he went to Hollywood. What about when Opie came over? Yup, we'll fill out a form 80-2 and investigate with the boys at the lab. The Untrained Voice investigator in training ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Picks ups and Splashes from Disposal and Front Porch
A few episodes later Aunt Bee files a claim to her insurance man (Howard Sprague's alter ego) because she thought she lost Aunt Martha's pin. With the insurance money she buys...a disposal!! Did I miss something or was this one of the inconsistencies with the writing? Yes that is a serious inconsistency that's is noted in some of the books about the show. They must have been really popular to add at that time...as well as ice crushers It was on the Taylor Porch that Andy taught Opie an important lesson about parenting and life, when he released his birds after he had cared for them so lovingly. Son, they need a much bigger cage and then stepping off of the porch, but reflecting back on the security of the cage and the porch but don't the tree seem nice and full The young lad Opie would no doubt remember that important lesson from the front porch. Nice observation Ken. Who else had a front porch? Floyd (seeing Barney on the Horse) Sam Becker Mrs. Mendlebright (Barney talked about sitting out there with her) The Parkers in Raleigh The Preacher, Reverend Tucker Thelma Lou Who else?? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mayberry Weather
Speaking of Weather Recall that the courthouse scenes were filmed in a studio...How did they get it to look like it was raining outside at the end of the Gypsies episode? During Dogs Dogs Dogs, we just see lightning and hear thunder, but when everyone is in the courthouse (in Gypsies episode), you see rain pouring off the courthouse windows. Rain machine? A hose? 2 hoses? Curious. Everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything about it. Maybe somebody did? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Trained Noticer Discovery
In the episode Aunt Bee learns to drivewe've mentioned before that Aunt Bee appears to be driving on dirt roads, but I just noticed something else. Apologies if someone has mentioned this before. Aunt Bee has a stand-in...a Stunt driver. We all know that when Barney gets a new car, the person pushing the car (when it stops running) that looks like Aunt Bee--is a man dressed as her. (The face is hidden and the legs are those of a man). When Aunt Bee gets in the car to learn to drive with Goober, she has on a gray dress. When the car is jumping curbs etc. She (or really he) has on a blue dress. Also it explains the scarf (to hide the face from the side) she wears to hold her hat on, which is a bit strange. When the car is coming off the curb, look at the arms working the wheel--a man's. Also you get one quick look at the face. Doesn't look like Aunt Bee, and the driver is also about Goober's height. When the car comes bouncing up to the Taylor house--its Aunt Bee again in her grey dress. Check it out, and see if I'm right. Also while you're looking close, watch the beginning when Goober is telling Aunt Bee about the car, just look who walks by. -- Also now that I have all seasons on DVD I am contemplating what to do with all my self-recorded VHS tapes. I would not sell them, but if someone wanted to pay for shipping and supply some new tapes..I I might work out an exchange. Just pondering..let me know if anyone has ideas. I have about 30 or so. The Untrained Voice Sgt at Arms, Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support Group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Big News for Schwamp Fans!
Well I know not everyone out there likes to hear about Mr. Schwamp, but this news is to big not to share. This Saturday we had a meeting of the Scwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support group. On our agenda was talking about and modeling our favorite hats, having a Nod-off Grin-off, and of, course watching a few episodes of the Andy Griffith Show featuring Mr. Schwamp. We all liked the new Cowboy Hat that Early Gillley wore, but nothing beat's Joe Hamilton's white wide-brim (is that called a Panama Hat?) Goober Beanie's are still the sentimental favorite. During the Nod-off Grin-off we watched No Time for Sergeants' No-one nodded off, but we all nodded in approval. We tried to keep things to a grin, but I lost the Grin-off first, bursting our in full laughter at Andy Griffith playing Will Stockdale. Well anyway for the exciting news. We watched the episode Floyd's Barbershop because it has one of the best close-up' of Mr. .Schwamp. http://www.mayberrygossipclub.com/gossip/index.php?title=Mr._Schwamp Well, we kept the DVD running after that, and the next episode was The Statue (when the statue of Seth Taylor is erected). Do you know who we saw in the crowd at the unveiling? You guessed it. Our Hero, the Schwamp-ster. He is well concealed in the crowd under a wide-brim grey hat. We ran it back and forth several times and used the zoom-in feature, but its him! Near the very end when Aunt Bee reveals the truth about Seth Taylor, he raises his fist. He is the third person almost directly behind Floyd. You can see that unmistakable grin when he cheers. Wow! By my count that makes 20 different episodes!!! We still need to add this one, the Barbershop Quartet, and Sam for Council to the Website above.Needless to say, we all stayed around for more Root Beer to celebrate...and our new favorite hat--the Gray Schwamp hat! The Untrained Voice Reporting Live Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support Group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mayberry Christmas Story
As we have been discussing there is just one Mayberry Christmas episode, and it is so perfect. However we have probably all wondered what could have happened if they had done other Christmas Episodes. I am one of those who used my imagination and took the time to put something on paper. (I can't take no credit my mind just works that way) For you newer members, I would like to direct your attention to Fan Fiction section of Allan's website for your reading pleasure. There you will find my Christmas story, as well as that of another author (an other stories as well). Remember, they are unofficial..cause I'm just an Untrained VoiceLook for An Unforgettable Christmas It's a long read, it probably would have been an hour episode, but I think you will enjoy it. http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/anewsome/private/fanfiction.htm Warmest Christmas Greetings The Untrained Voice and the echoes (my family) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Misty for me
I don't mind if we touch on tender moments in general, but the original discussion was about tender moments on the Christmas episode. Nice Dress Nellie is up to 12 episodes now on my list. I'm sure there are more to come. Will she approach the 19 of Mr. Schwamp? My comment about the Dry County question..is that status kind of comes and goes with the episode. Not totally consistent. Or maybe it just means that you couldn't make/sell it without a license. What a fabulous Christmas Card Mr. Newsome!! You always deliver (just like the Post Office) The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
The Christmas Episode--what makes it great
No matter how many times I see it, I still get misty eyed when Ben is shown peeping through those bars, singing along with Andy and Ellie. WOW. You don't see that on tv anymore. I wish TAGS would have made one Christmas show each season. You are so right Weenie Man. Let me call you a Big Man, for this comment. It takes a big man to confess his emotional softness, but I stand right there with you. As Charlene would say..that one makes me cry. Before DVD or tapes, I would always count on watching the episode on Christmas Eve or a few days before. Scrooge, It's a Wonderful Life, and The Andy Griffith Christmas episode are on my must see list each holiday season. Lets talk about why. A few days ago someone suggested that we must have grow up in very humble means to fully appreciate that episode. I can't totally agree with that. I think it is so good that anyone can relate to it. Let's look at it a little more in depth. I believe these are the main elements of this timeless classic. 1) Its all about being with family. The early plot of the show is centered around the fact that Andy realizes how important it is that Sam be with his family. His moon shining arrest represents the obstacles that we all face at times being with family. When Andy figures out a creative solution, we all share in that triumph. Its better for them to be together in jail..than apart anywhere. 2) Ben Weaver--The story is really about Ben and his Ebenezer Scrooge type of transformation. He starts out as a stickler only focused on the almighty dollar--his liquor profits, but the love that he sees in the others seeps into that once cold heart--just like the Grinch, just like Scrooge. We all love to see a change heart and the Change in Ben Weave is heartwarming. It is the most compelling part of the story. 3) The simple things are what really matters (I think this is what the other writer was referring to about humble beginnings). There are not many gifts and very little decoration. There is food, fellowship of loved ones, and a little music. Those simple things are all that is required for a proper Christmas celebration. 4) Tradition--A big part of the Christmas Holiday is Tradition. They brought tradition into their celebration. Egg nog, a Christmas tree, an appearance by Santa Claus, Christmas Cards. These all reminded us of our favorite simple traditions. 5) Music-OK you've heard the story of how it was done, but what a perfect (and simple) sound track. It was beautifully simple and totally appropriate for the occasion. 6) The characters..Aunt Bee, above all had the gift of hospitality, and she showed that beautifully in that role. Ellie, the girl-friend and co-hostess, beautiful singer and the one who looked out for Be--to a fault. Andy and Barney, friends beyond working together. Opie, the humble child who was happy just being with his Paw and Aunt Bee. It was perfect chemistry with Sam and his family and Ben. Will Wright played the perfect Scrooge. Can you imagine the Shoplifter show Ben? Is just wouldn't have been the same. 6) Special Effects--Yes things were pretty low tech in those days, but a moment of camera brilliance was mentioned by Weenie Man above. The slow pan to Ben peeking through the window and hearing him Sing. It epitomized a moment of loneliness or jealously or not fitting in that we have all probably felt at times. Here was a man with everything in some ways--but so wanting in others. The second moment I get misty is when you hear Aunt Bee say Ben and hand him a plate. At that moment, at last, him dream had been realized. He was accepted into the family. 7) And they still found time for a little comedy--Andy Griffith style. Is this what you like about the show? Do you have other thoughts? Just some philosophical meanderings The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Nice Dress Nelly and Ernest T
To respond to a couple of recent posts I haven't figured out who Nice Dress Nellie is (actress name), but I have been trying to keep a list of her appearances. If you have a list also, let me know. I'll publish my list after some more viewing. Horn-Rimmed Harry sure could cut a rug. Did you see him dancing with Helen in the Fun Girls episode? And speaking of Background Actors..I just spotted the 19th Episode of Mr. Schwamp!! ( I didn't make that the title 'cause some folks think we talk about him too much). In The Barbershop Quartet (191 filmed, 192 aired) you have to watch real close but he is in the background when the rival sheriff pulls up to taunt Andy a little bit. He's really in the background in this one. Someone asked whether Ernest T Bass lived in a house or a cave. I am going to have to say a house/shack. When he was looking for a girlfriend, the only things he needed were a uniform, and an education...so he must have already had a decent place to live. Maybe it needed a new roof (he did stand out in the rain once) or a new coat of mud on the floor..but it was a start. The Untrained Voice, and semi--trained Noticer All God's Children got a a) girl, b) uvula..anymore answers to this catch phase you remember? ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Whats in name? The Untrained Voice responds--and sings with the choir
Want to know something? All these years I figured Untrained Voice got his name as a kind of inside joke used in describing Barney's singing voice. then John Masters asked him about his trained voice. That's how I thought the Untrained Voice came up with his name and I thought is was very clever. But it wasn't that way at all. His Untrained Voice name had nothing at all to do with that episode. Laura Lee Hobbs (who did you think wrote this) Dime Store Clerk and Gold Truck Watcher Extraordinaire And Laura Lee...all these year's you've been absolutely right!! The idea did come from when John Masters said Barney I didn't know you had a Trained Voice...but I just applied it to writing, and the fact that I'm an unprofessional writer, and, like I said earlier, Untrained Voice made more sense than Untrained Writer..but since we talk so much about singing, and caterwauling, and enunciatin' and breathin' and everything, it now applies to both! Untrained as a Writer--Untrained as a Singer--that's me..The Untrained Voice...so clever or not, that is still the source!! Please pass that around at the Dime Store so you don't confuse folks with your recent misstatement. Now let me show you what an Untrained Voice is good for... WE-Theyyy--We---They Wee---they---I O UUU I OO UUU (join in now girls) May-berry sidewalks, Quiet sidewalks Dressed in Gold Truck Watching style. In the air There's a feeling of some-thing BIG!! Children laughing (at Barney) People asking (when's it coming?) Gold Trucks traveling mile after mile And on ev'ry street corner you'll hear, Silver bells, Blabbermouth tells It's Gold Truck time in May--berry. (Mr. Schwamp is nodding vigorously) Everyone Knows, Barney's whistle blows. Soon it will be Gold Truck Day. Light bulbs popping, Gold Trucks stopping It's a cha-o-tic scene Gawkers sent home without a look at the treasure. Watch the driver's lunch. As the crowds bunch. This is Lau-ra Lee Hobbs' Big Day! And above all this Chaos You'll hear..., Silver bells, Andy tells It's Decoy time in May-berry Shazam-a-ling, A Decoy thing When will it be Gold Truck day??? Will it come again? Lets Ask the T-men It worth about se-ven million Above all this wishing you'll hear Truck of Gold, The decoy thing is getting old Please come back to May-berry Tinkl-ling, Dime Store Cash Registers Ring But when will it be Gold Truck Day? Hey Thanks for all the insightful answers about what went on at Mrs. Wi-leys!! The Untrained Voice (Untrained Writer and Singer--but sometimes Trained Noticer) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
History, that's Allan's subject or Christmas Cards
Hey Allan. We've been enjoying the history of the Digest. Thanks for keeping all that. And how may issues was that ??? Wow, just think if Opie had printed that many papers? We'd have enough Paper to pave Main Street, and Elm, and Willow and Oak, and Woods Way and all the other streets. And if History ain't your subject, it must be Christmas Card making. What a wonderful collection of cards, each more dazzling that the previous year! http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/anewsome/private/christmascards. htm Can't wait to see this year's card. That Adam is getting to be one nice writer. I'll bet he's all mannerized and everything too! The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Catch Phrases
How about compiling a 100 Greatest Mayberry Quotes and Catch Phrases list (or maybe the 50 greatest). Any contributions? Definitely Nip it, Hi Doll, You got time to breathe, you got time for music, It's me. it's me, it's Ernest T. I'm sure there are a few more. Loren Loren, not a bad idea. I'm sure its been done before but not for a while. May I politely suggest though that you are mixing favorite quotes with catch phrases. I believe that a catch phrase has to be spoken more that oncewhile a favorite quote such as You got time to breathe, you got time for music is just spoken once. Ain't you got a jack is another favorite quote. And while I'm being picky it's Hello Doll not Hi Doll (a common mistake) So here are some more in the spirit of your catch phrase request. You beat everything you know that You're a bird in this world He's a nut Shazam heartaches, nothing but heartaches Yo citizen's arrest! Citizen's arrest! The Untrained Voice Practicing my catch phrase enunciating with Mrs. Poulice. NIP IT! NIP IT! NIP IT IN the BUD!!! Ju-dy Ju-dy Ju-dy Ju-dy Ju-dy (I can't do it) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
I saw another one!
OK here is one to add to the list of Barney's catch phrase; What's a matter haven't you ever seen-- #3 is added to the list. When the boys thinking Barney is hanging himself. . I don't recall anyone asking. How many different things does Barney say What's a matter Haven't you ever seen___? 1) A man drink a cup of coffee before. (with Lipstick all over his face) 2) A man take off a dress before. (in front of courthouse in The Bank Job) 3)A Man Stretching himself before (Episode where he needs to grow a half an inch) 4) There's got to be more...what are they? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
15th anniversary
Well my membership goes back to at least 99, and I believe before that a few years,(95 or 96) but due to a computer crash back then, I do not have the official verification. To steal and modify a line from a movie..Being with all of you makes me want to be a better Fan (of the Andy Griffith Show). Before I discovered this Digest, this website, and most importantly, this virtual community of fans..I was just a guy, with a favorite show, with little knowledge about it, and no one to really talk to about it. Now, I've got books, tapes, DVDs Newsletters, and the knowledge that I have gained at this wonderful place and 1500 or so friends. The internet is a scary thing, but its wonderful how it has brought us fans together across this country and even across the world in a few cases for a common love of a show that aired over 40 years ago. I have become what I am here today, because I've emulated so many of the friends I've met here. There are people like Paul, who stretch me to learn more and know more, and be able to answer, and sometimes even ask good questions. There are people like Dapper Dan and Laura Lee, and so so many others that make me laugh out loud, and thus I try to do the same for some of you. Then there are the Tribute Artists. I count it a privilege to have met and corresponded with David Browning and Allan...though I never really met them, I just met The Mayberry Deputy and Floyd. I actually thought a lot about being A Tribute Artist...but I found that my gift, like Ken and so many of you, is writing. So I became a Writer Tribute Artist --writing what I called Lost Episodes..which Allan was kind enough to post some as Fan Fiction. I've written songs, poems scenes, and even scripts long enough for whole episodes perhaps...but the greatest joy in writing...is sharing some new thought or idea with all of you. Writing to the Digest is a funny thing. Sometimes I write something that is so funny (I think) I laugh as I am typing it upand then after I post, I don't hear a word...and then other times, I just throw in a quip...and we talk about it for days..People sure are odd. I'm sure some of you have experienced that as well. Many times I've been amused or touched by something, and not had time to respond...so thank you all for the times you responded...and for the times you sent something great, that I did not respond. Please know that everything submitted is appreciated by somebody!! I also emulate Allan at times. I appreciate him so much, that I try to be one of his deputies sometimes, and help keep the peace. We've had some real sticky times over the years...but he has always handled it with class. I know Allan you've had technological marvel challenges as well. Thank you so much sir for not giving up!!. Thanks for keeping this little town open!!! You are a great Sheriff, er Barber, and friend to all. I think I learned from Dan, Laura Lee, Neil Bentley and others that its fun to just go back in time and pretend we are there in Mayberry. My great memories include: Hearing from script writer Harvey Bullock when he used to write to the Digest every now and then. Discovering Background Actors, and making a hobby of watching for them (Mr. Schwamp the foremost of course) Meeting so many friends here...many of which are no longer here. God Bless them where ever they are. Finding out about and attending a few Mayberry events. (never been to Mayberry Days though) Finally getting DVDs after we discussed for years how nice it would be if more that the Columbia House tapes were available The Digest Archives, and the Cast Database. I know the Archives are gone now, but I loved them, and I love the website resources. Having somebody to grieve with when we have lost our heroes and friends. Having someone to laugh with about our favorite characters. Learning things to watch for on our favorite show. Coming up with trivia questions and sharing them with you. Meeting some of you in person as well as seeing Betty Lynn, Howard Morris, Maggie Peterson, The Dillards and others in person. My favorite Digest Exchange was one I was fortunate enough to begin, but was made great by many of you. Do you old timers remember the ailment TAGS-L-versitis...and the scoring system to see how bad you had it? That was a hoot for about a week. I kept copies of that one. I also remember the Johnny Coons/Tom Jacobs thing that Bob mentioned. I have to admit that I also liked the Sleep Pants debacle. (that was one time I think I was on the wrong side of the law). Well I'm getting windy again. (Allan used to have to limit my space at times--he said I had a writing compelsion) so I'll wrap it up. The last 10-15 years have been great, my friends. Here's to all of you...and the years to come...cause I ain't done yet, and I hope you're not! Just what was going on at Mrs. Wiley's anyway? Was it a Singles Social night?...and Where was Mr. Wiley??? I can't believe he left her there with a
Its big!!
The picture that is, its Big. I was walking through a bookstore last night, and there was a big coffee table book with Andy and Barney of the front. I was pretty sore with your guys for a moment, thinking there was a new book that you didn't tell me about. But actually the book is called TVLand icons, and there is just one TAGS page with the same picture inside. Lots of other interesting pictures in there..but I thought it was a need honor for Andy and Don to be the cover icons of all the icons. Well I need to get busy and write my 15th anniversary of the Digest speech. Friends, Neighbors, Distinguished guests Uh I'll get back to you in a few days. The Untrained Voice Lots of people Lie at Lunch--What of it (Hey what the password for Mayberrygossp Allan?) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
You're right LLH-DSC-GTWE
but, the one I was talking about was the epilogue showing Andy coming in on Barney at Thel's house and, yes, they were drinking coffee but also doing a little smooching because Barney's face is covered with Thelma Lou's kisses. To tell the honest truth, I can't be sure of the show. I think it's the Melissa one, but I wouldn't bet my life on it. So any help I can get on pinpointing which exact show this epilogue belongs to (Paul, anyone else?) would be appreciated Hey they Laura Lee, I'm not Paul, but I am anyone else cause my Paw told me to Be somebody You are correct. I popped in my DVD--Season 2 Barney on the Rebound. There it was Barney and Thel in the dark at Thelma Lou's house having a little make-up make-out. That is a very funny epilog..one I had forgotten about. Barney looks like a cross between the other episode discussed (when his face is in the filing cabinet and Opie thinks he is bleeding) and the one when his hair is messed up after reciting (ha ha ) the preamble. So there ya go LLH, do I get one of those bouncy balls free, or do I have to pay a dime for it? Save the bag..I'll bounce it home. That Epilog brought up a good question. I don't recall anyone asking. How many different things does Barney say Haven't you ever seen___? 1) A man drink a cup of coffee before. 2) A man take off a dress before. 3) 4) The Untrained Voice Not accustomed to hangin around dime stores--more likely at Mrs. Poultice's doing breathin' exercises Hey did you hear if Mr. Masters is Looking for a Tenor? I saw Hazel at Wally's fillin station and she gave me a knowing wink. Meee They Me They ME They. I OO UUU I OO UU I OOO UUU ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Horn-Rimmed Harry Shows up again
SCHwUMP ALERT! I swore I'd never write in about Mr. Schump - there has been enough of that already! What do you mean enough of that already??? Can you tell a bird to just say CHIRP CHIRP?? We love the guy, so we have to sing his praises. He's a legend! Please don't tell me you've heard enough about that tomato--cause I think there's more juice to run. Yes that is one of his 18 appearances we've tallied so far. If you look real close, he whispers with Nice Dress Nellie. I think she says those were a couple of nice fair speeches (he misunderstands and responds) thanks I got this nice hair piece in Mt. Pilot Anyway--another trained noticer reported seeing Horn-rimmed Harry in The Fun Girls--and I just saw him in the Cave Rescue, when Barney arrested Mr. Meldrum going into work. He smiles a lot. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Horn-rimmed Harry
Well I've been watchin the background actors--still on #2 Amber Alert looking for Schwamp, and also got my eyes open for Nice Dress Nellie. I just noticed another guy that seems to show up a lot. For now I'm going to call him Horn-rimmed Harry. He does wear glasses, haven't seen them close enough to tell of they are really horn-rimmed, but they are black across the top. If you'd like to join the search for Horn-rimmed Harry, I'd like to ask you to pull out your Tape or DVD of Citizen's Arrest. (ep 106) When Barney pulls Gomer over, there is a nice collection of regular background actors. As Gomer steps out of his truck, look through the window of Gomer's open door and you can see Horn-rimmed Harry talking to a lady. Just to the left of the door you see Nice Dress Nellie.,,and another gentleman with glasses (its not him). Then on the right you see Joe Hamilton, who has some speaking parts here, and Choney another familiar extra. When Barney makes his U-turn, and Gomer yells his famous Citizen's arrest a crowd gathers again. This time H-R-H has his back to the camera, but can then later be seen behind Barney. The heavy set guy with the thicker glasses is also very prominent. You can see Tom Jacobs in the far right hand corner of the crowd as well...as well as Joe Hamilton and Choney again. Will you join the search for Horn-rimmed Harry? Where else does he show Up? The Untrained Voice The Schwamp Fan club and Hair Loss Support group--dedicated to honoring our silent heroes of TAGS. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
8th Allen Melvin, football, Beasley
My favorite character actor of all time has to be Allen Melvin. I started trying to remember just how many episode's he was in, I count 7... That's all I can recall, if anyone can remember some more, help me out He was also in Howard's main event. When Howard liked Millie, we was an ex-boyfriend that game her some trouble and threatened Howard. -- I zoomed in on the football, but couldn't make out the writing on my DVD player. We'll have to send that one to the boys at the lab. anyway... I was watching a wife for Andy and a woman walks down the street and Thelma Lou says she's ms. Beasley... then in the episode where Opie mistakenly gets all A's Andy is in the kitchen talking about getting a picture of Opie took to send to Mr.. Beasley who is always bragging about his kids.. and then of course there is Goober Beasley. you think that's just a last name they use when they cant make up another one?? Don't forget Lorraine Beasley who was engaged to be married to...was it Early Gilley?? And of course Juanita Beasley at the diner. I remember reading somewhere that Beasley was a familiar name to Andy or one of the writers The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Nice Dress Nellie
Hey I think I found a really obscure sighting of nice dress Nellie. In Gomer the Houseguest..when all of Gomer's Buddies show up at Andy's house with their cars. There is Joe Hamilton, Willy Jack and all these cronies, and the last one who gets out of a car, in the distance is NDN ! I can't believe she would be there with all those guys but maybe she hadn't heard the Birdy Blush story yet, or maybe she was a single lady (since she was one of Andy's ladies Barney sent over) that had to get to know Gomer well because she had car trouble. Look really close. That episode is loaded with background actors. In addition to Joe Hamilton (who Gomer tells the Birdy Blush story to), Ron Jacobs is the guy who is in line who gets mad and drives off. Thanks to all of you who supported my idea that Schwamp should remain a mystery. And to those opposed--how a person votes, brother is his business..but I'm votin to keep it--the mystery, not the cannon...if you ruin for everyone, just keep in mind what might happen R-E-V-E-N-G Did anybody catch the yes Carolina, was a play on the old letter Yes Virginia there is a Santa Clause? If so, your education is worth every penny. Still stuck on 18 Schwamps--up to 7 Nice Dress Nellie's The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Yes Carolina, There is A Schwamp
Who was Mr. Schwamp ? Surely someone can find out! If none of the cast remembers, is there any other way to find out? Would there be a listing somewhere of extras who were paid for tv shows? Let's all put on our thinking buckets and solve this! It's driving me crazy! Let us start Googling and see what happens! If we have to have a summit meeting to do thisso be it! Anyone have an idea that hasn't been disussed on how to find out the man's real name? OK. I'm going to tell you the rest of Mr. Schwamp's name It's Ole Sam Well, its not really Sam Schwamp--that I know of, but he is ole Sam in this regard. Now you have to have seen the episode Big Fish in a Small Town to understand this. Episode #198 was seemingly about Howard, and how he shocked everyone by being such a klutzy rookie fisherman, but hooking the legendary Silver Carp know as Ole Sam that had eluded everyone else for years. As the story went on, the townsfolk were really kind of sad that he caught Ole Sam because at that point, the legend stopped, because no one could look forward to catching him again. No one could have future stories about the inspiration for the very fishing event that led to Ole Sam's capture. Howard was a smart man, and he realized that having the pride of catching the legendary fish, even though he did the humane thing and kept him in a public aquarium, was not worth taking the legend, the motivation, away from all his friends in Mayberry. He realized that Ole Sam belonged to everyone, and thus belonged in Myers Lake for all to pursue (so he put him back to the delight of all). Mr. Schwamp's true identity is our Ole Sam. He is our legend..not to be snagged by one person, but to be pondered by all..to continue as a mystery, a living legend, For if his mysterious true identity was captured..what would future fans have to look forward to..what mystery would live on about Mayberry?? I think I can say without too much argument, that I am as big a fan of Mr. Schwamp as anyone. I led the identification of the 18 episodes so far that he is in. I founded the mythical Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss support group. I first theorized that he indulged in too much root beer from time to time, gets a buzz, and thus disappears before episodes are over. I also started the theory that his job was that of the local funeral director. Now all that is not to brag, but to just say I have as much fun with him as anyone...and I don't want to know his true identity--not now, not ever! It would be like unmasking Batman, Spiderman, or the Lone Ranger. (or the Masked Singer) It just wouldn't be right. So Please, for me, for future fans...Lets just leave him as Mr. Schwamp--the mystery. Let's not ruin Santa Claus for future fans. Schwamp is Santa Claus--he brings us all joy. He's Ole Sam, we all seek to catch him. Lets let the Legend Live--Are you with me? The Untrained Voice Dedicated Fan of Mr. Schwamp--the only name we should ever know ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Nice Dress Nellie
Well, I'm still on the Schwamp hunt (Number 2 Amber Alert) but in the process I found a couple appearances of the Mystery lady--(which I like the name Nice Dress Nellie) we have been discussing. I believe she is one of the judges..or official in Only a Rose. Somebody check me on that---you know for official verification..check the stage. (don't miss Schwamp at the back of the room) Also, I'm sure she is in A Deal is a Deal. In the beginning Opie and all his pals run to her with their boxes of Miracle Salve and she has this terrified look on her face. So add that one to the Nellie list. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mystery Lady--clearing things up
OK I watched Andy Saves Barney's Morale and I know who Nellie is. I believe she is the third from last bachelorette who enters Andy's house in A wife for Andy. What confused me was someone's comment that her hair is dark. I would say its more like a like a light brunette. She is the one I mentioned is in a picture on page 27 of the coffee table book Mayberry Memories, where she is shown coming out of a cell. In an ironic twist, I am excited to tell you that she is in at least two episodes with Mr. Schwamp. In Aunt Bee Takes A Job she is the one who walks up with Mr. Schwamp to investigate the accident after Andy shoots out the tire. In Otis the Artist She is the one that Mr. Schwamp is shown speaking to!! Is there a connection there So our Nellie List so far: Andy Saves Barney's Morale #16 A Wife for Andy #92 Aunt Bee Takes a Job #171 Otis the Artist #175 Politics Begins at Home #200 ?? (Aunt Bee runs for Council) She is NOT the Lady giggling with the man behind Barney as Andy us talking about the Microphone in Barney and the Choir. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mystery lady
OK, when the girls all come to Andy's house the first time In a A wife for Andy (#92 I think) is she the last lady in the door..or the third from the last? They both sit on the coffee table. They both are in other episodes, but the last lady had darker hair. The third from last is in the one where Barney jails everyone. There is a picture of her on Page 27 of Mayberry Memories (overhead shot). Lets get this straight before we issue the official Number 2 Amber Alert. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Schwamp a Meter goes up Another Tick!!
Well, I just caught another surprise appearance by Mr. Schwamp. The Number 2 Amber Alert is working. When Sam Jones runs for Town Council, episode 247, there is a little celebration at Andy's house. There are cookies and punch and its kind of a dress-up occasion, so there he was. Now the way a man votes is his own business brother, but since he was at Andy's house with the other Sam supporters, I assume he gave Sam the Nod..and of course he smiled when the news came in that Sam won. That make 18!!. We'll update that website soon. I was going to start a new Amber Alert search for Tom Jacobs, but we've put that one hold. Whoa Nellie, lets find that lady...and lets keep looking for Schwamp..maybe we can hit 20! The Untrained Voice PS: Hope everyone going to Mayberry Days has safe and fun travel. Wish we could all go. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Schwamp there when Andy goes to Hollywood
Well there he is again. In Off to Hollywood our dear Mr. Schwamp is right there in the Courthouse when Goober is showing off Andy's big check (from the movie company), and also when the bus arrives to take them to the airport. There is a good close-up of his hair, and you know what? It looks, good, real good! That makes 17 now. I miscounted on my earlier note. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Schwampish lady
I know I am probably fishing in the dark here but I have a question. There is a lady who is a regular cameo who has never had a speaking part. She is always either in a crowd scene, at a function (such as the Garden Club), and has probably been in as many episodes as Mr.Schump. The only time I have ever heard her called anything is once Andy called her Hazel (not the piano player). She is very unique looking and I am sure others have recognized her so if anyone knows who I mean please let me know. Liz aint you got a jackRoberts Can you give us a little more detail?? An Episode or two she is in? Is it the lady that Mr. Schwamp murmurs to in It Otis the Artist, at the Garden Club meeting? Does she show up and Andy's house as one of the girls Barney wants him to consider? Is she perty?? Or just nice, real nice? We gotta have details to put out a number 2 Amber on her ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Amber alert reference
i dont mean to be a party pooper... but can we use another term other than Amber Alert? it just doesnt seem right (to me anyway) to use such a serious systems name for Mr. Swump sightings... the Amber Alert is a very serious thing to help find missing children who are kiddnapped and in danger of being raped, exploited and murdered.. i really dont think its appropriate to use the term so loosely and jokingly... sorry if this post is inappropriate... but this really bothers me. Dear ladynoogs45744 and anyone else offended by this reference. Perhaps you wouldn't have been so bothered if you understood where that reference came from. Barney used the term Amber Alert (trained noticers will help me with the episode) when he was trying to impress some outsiders. He said further, referring to himself and Andy One of us will be awake and alert at all times So that's the TAGS reference I was pulling in. I thin I even mentioned that one of us would be awake at all times, to help folks remember that episode. That you think I would use it in the modern vernacular is a little bothersome to me, but I understand your false assumption if you didn't know where the reference came from. I guess we do need to be cautious about terms that could be misunderstood. Please understand that was not the intent. This is Mayberry. Amber Alert is a Deputy term here. With best regards TH Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Oops actually I can add
I forgot this is the website that Allan created that all of us can add stuff, so I will add the additional sightings. To the person that asked yesterday what Schwamps's real name is--check out the page--Allan addresses that question very well. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
RE: Schwamp on the loose
Well I took my Amber Alert shift last night for 2:00 to 3:00 AM, and guess what, I saw him again!!! Yes Mr. Schwamp is in episode 173 Aunt Bee takes a Job!! Near the end when Andy shoots the tire and the counterfeiters crash.. guess who is right there on the scene like a Crime Scene Investigator. Mr. Schwamp!! Mayberry's CSI. He checks out the front bumper. He really gets around! Remember he had the offending rock at Mrs. Wiley's party as well. The Untrained Voice Mayberry has no Donald Trump..but everyone gets Fired up about Mr. Schwamp Yes Allan, I will try to get some of these updates to that website -Original Message- From: GRITTON, JOE A (SBC-OPS) Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:50 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Schwamp on the loose OK this is getting to be Schwamp-o-rama indeed. Its BIG! I just saw him again in another undocumented episode. He is in #241 Mayberry RFD!!! Here are the documented Schwamp episodes on our Website 113 My Fairest Ernest T Bass 123 The Fun Girls 133 The Education or Ernest T Bass 141 Otis Sues the County 175 Otis the Artist 203 Only a Rose 210 Floyd's Barbershop 240 Barney Hosts Summit In addition, to those 9, these 5 have been identified in the last few days 174 The Church Organ ( Mari Ellen aka Bloody Mary) 192 The Lodge (Untrained Voice) 198 Big Fish in a Small Town (Dennis) 238 The Church Benefactors (Untrained) 241 Mayberry RFD (Untrained) That's 14 appearances Some of them are shorter than others..so you really have to watch. There may be more . I say we put out an APSB!! (All Points Schwamp Bulletin). Maybe even an Amber Alert--where one of us is awake watching episodes at all times!! You've got to watch closely, because as I've noted before..he does sometimes appear in early scenes--and then later he disappears. I still say he gets a Root Beer buzz and then has to sneak home because he gets the shakes. Watch him in The Lodge, Sam For Council and others. He is there early...and then he's not. Here are helpful clues to watch for the Schwampster: Search the crowd at any party or Social Gathering, Church; lecture etc. Look for background scenes including sitting on a bench outside Courthouse etc. Look for Root Beer bottles (like Fun Girls Episode) Look for a Toupee, and fat little smile Usually wears a suit ( I still think he took over the funeral parlor) The Untrained Voice Sgt at Arms, Schwamp Fan Cub and Hair Loss Support group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Schwamp on the loose
OK this is getting to be Schwamp-o-rama indeed. Its BIG! I just saw him again in another undocumented episode. He is in #241 Mayberry RFD!!! Here are the documented Schwamp episodes on our Website 113 My Fairest Ernest T Bass 123 The Fun Girls 133 The Education or Ernest T Bass 141 Otis Sues the County 175 Otis the Artist 203 Only a Rose 210 Floyd's Barbershop 240 Barney Hosts Summit In addition, to those 9, these 5 have been identified in the last few days 174 The Church Organ ( Mari Ellen aka Bloody Mary) 192 The Lodge (Untrained Voice) 198 Big Fish in a Small Town (Dennis) 238 The Church Benefactors (Untrained) 241 Mayberry RFD (Untrained) That's 14 appearances Some of them are shorter than others..so you really have to watch. There may be more . I say we put out an APSB!! (All Points Schwamp Bulletin). Maybe even an Amber Alert--where one of us is awake watching episodes at all times!! You've got to watch closely, because as I've noted before..he does sometimes appear in early scenes--and then later he disappears. I still say he gets a Root Beer buzz and then has to sneak home because he gets the shakes. Watch him in The Lodge, Sam For Council and others. He is there early...and then he's not. Here are helpful clues to watch for the Schwampster: Search the crowd at any party or Social Gathering, Church; lecture etc. Look for background scenes including sitting on a bench outside Courthouse etc. Look for Root Beer bottles (like Fun Girls Episode) Look for a Toupee, and fat little smile Usually wears a suit ( I still think he took over the funeral parlor) The Untrained Voice Sgt at Arms, Schwamp Fan Cub and Hair Loss Support group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mayberry Moment/Schwamp sighting
I've been trying to help my daughter find a good used car. Learning from Barney's mistake, when she found a truck she was interested in, I took it to my local Wally to have it checked over. When we returned for the report, the mechanic started listing all the things that needed to be replaced. Brake drums, Brake shoes, Tie rods, transmission, Radiator coil, Radiator hose, fan belt , serpentine belt etc. etc. etc. Needless to say, we took it back to our Little old Lady and said no thanks. Having Wally look it over was a great idea. Andy was right. I'd like to report another Schwamp sighting. Our official website database credits Schwamp will 9 appearances, http://www.mayberry.com/cgi-bin/readcsvplus.pl?search=schwampsearch=se arch= but I think I have found the second undocumented appearances of our dear fake-haired friend. In addition to The Lodge which I reported earlier, I also saw that familiar smile and murmur in The Church Benefactors episode 238. There he was, right in church with the others when the Reverend announced the $500 gift. I'll bet he would have voted for the Pool Table since he's such a party animal. Anyway, that's 11 appearances!!. The Untrained Voice Sgt at Arms, Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Picks-up and Splashes from Floor and Pool.
Hey thanks for all the Chicken-Owner answers, We've got Mr. Frisbee, Flint Frankie, Frank Myers, the fighting couple (you got chickens to throw, you got chickens to sell) Mr. Hendricks (surprised nobody argued with me on that one--no chicken's shown--but eggs had to come from somewhere) Jubal Foster had chickens, The Wakefield's and Carters (feud) One of the two men who came in, one was complaining about the other one building a spite fence--Andy told them to put up chicken wire fence. Didn't Rafe Hollister have a few chickens?? The Darlings? Is a Pheasant a chicken?? (only when its cooked on a real pioneer fire) No wonder there were a few Chicken thieves and whatnot - Hey I was watching the color episode last night featuring the professor who wrote the book, I love South America. (Aunt Bee reminded him of his late wife Ethel) I wonder why Mr. Schwamp wasn't at the lecture I know I know, he doesn't speak (or nod) a word of South American..but it just seems like the type of event he liked to get dressed up for and attend. Perhaps because there was no root beer served?? Or he didn't like to being upstaged by an arrogant widower?? Or maybe it was too windy out that night?? Makes ya thank The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mystery actor and Halloween
That mystery actor sitting on the bull dozer in Aunt Bee the crusader, was none other than Tom Jacobs..who is actually a brother to Danny Thomas. You will see him all over if you keep watching. He gets a long look when Barney says What's a matter? Haven't you ever seen a man take off a dress before? (after breaking out of Bank vault I think) I think Paul mentioned a while back that he speaks in Goober takes a car apart How'd they do it Sheriff and one other time when someone got on a bus...but he is always in the background. There is not a Halloween episode, but there are several references to Trick or Treat..so they must have celebrated it. (when they all dressed up for the movie in the first season). When Andy put on the fishing hat and funny tieother occasions The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Gomer knows cars
When did Gomer know cars? I am not being obtuse or fa-sish-us, just forgot the episode(s) when he did. Opie's Dad, Martin Simmons Martin. In Gomer the Houseguest episode 97 I believe. Everyone was bringing their cars to Andy's house where Gomer was staying..and Wally lost all his business when he fired Gomer for taking too much and slowing things down. Gomer could tell from his second floor window what was wrong just by the sound. Andy led all the cars and Gomer back to Wally, where he rehired him. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Answering Frank
I was watching a TAGS DVD and heard a comment from Aunt Bea. It was in the episode Aunt Bea the Crusader. She told Andy if you would spend less time in the Sheriff's office and more time in Church... I thought Andy was a regular church goer?? Frank Johnson Centerville,Indiana Hello Frank, I just drove through your Mayberry-like town of Centerville again last week. I also went though Abbington..just so's you know I'm not making it up, and got on 27 just past the Widau barn. Do you have a farm out there? You know the Johnson's near Mayberry had a nice picturesque Barn (freshly painted) and farm. Now for your question. Yes Andy was a good Church Go-er and leader--but for that episode they needed something for Aunt Bee to kind of throw at him so it was ...maybe you should go to church more often. Its just one of those inconsistencies like Barney's middle names...Gomer knowing nothing about cars, and then being a genius mechanic. We just learn to note them and love them like Aunt Bee's pickles. The Untrained Voice Westfield Indiana...but I know where historic Centerville is. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Not eggsactly
Boy that's pretty bad when I make a mistake correcting my mistake--regarding Helen showing Slides to the Sunday School class. It was the Mr. Frisbee episode, not Fred Goss I guess I got my chicken owners mixed up--so please be kind trained noticers. It was Orville Hendrix that Aunt Bee had the made-up romance with not Fred Goss and Not Mr. Frisbee. OK lets turn this snafu into a positive. How many other chicken-owners can you name in and around Mayberry??? Mr. Frisbee, Orville Hendrix (Mt Pilot counts) .and Chicken thieves and fried chicken makers don't count. The untrained (and sometimes mixed up) Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Basketball
Speaking of Basketball, I noticed the lack of basketball in Mayberry a few year back and wrote a fictional episode of what I thought would have been fun. Check it out. http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/mfigure/fanfiction/basketbal_reg ional_orbust.htm ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Clearing up answers--Weddings and Church.
Kim from Wylie TX you did a great job and provided the most complete answers yet. First of all, let me acknowledge Ken Anderson for correctly naming the other wedding shown on TAGS. That was the wedding of Howard's mother...in the Episode near the end of the series called the Wedding (the episode was really about Howard and his bachelor pad). Also others correctly identified the aborted weddings of Andy and Charlene, Briscoe and Aunt Bee, Howard and Millie and others. One that I had in mind that noone named what the supposed wedding of Andy and Helen when Andy got in trouble for not having a fishing license and Barney jumped to the wrong conclusion. You guys came up with others I had not thought off ..great job!! ...but again its strange that none of these appeared to planned for the church. OK here's Kim's answers and my corrections/COMMENTS in ALL CAPS Regarding weddings: I remember in the Punch in the nose episode Floyd read about a couple who were announcing their upcoming nuptials. Also when the young doctor comes to town, Andy hastily proposes to Ellie thinking he might lose her, but that didn't gel. Also I think Ellen Brown left her manicurist job in order to get married. Are any of these the ones you were thinking of? For the quotes, here are some answers and guesses: White Bible Barney about Mrs. Mendlebright when she was going to get married, I believe she was presented it in Church because of her excellent attendance. (YES AND HE WAS TALKING TO ANDY) Month of Sundays The Preacher when he'd got Opie's paper that quoted Andy as saying that sometimes his preaching was dry as dust. (YES, HE TOLD ANDY HE WAS HOG-TIED INTO TEACHING SUNDAY SCHOOL FOR A MONTH OF SUNDAYS--WHICH MEANT ABOUT 30) 16 years going to prayer meeting together Possibly Clara and her gentleman friend who cut slits in his shoes. THIS WAS A TOUGH ONE. ANDY PULLS UP A CHAIR AT THE REQUEST OF THE LADY JEWEL THIEF IN JAIL AND BEGINS TALKING TO HER. HE TELLS HER A STORY ABOUT SOME COUPLE WHO WENT TO PRAYER MEETING TOGETHER FOR 16 YEARS BUT HAD NOT YET DECIDED TO GET MARRIED. Noticed your new shirt waist Barney about Miss Rosemary when she came by the courthouse and he confessed to Andy that he walked her to Church. YES maybe you should go to church more often Barney to Andy at the courthouse when Aunt Bee was upset because they were evicting Mr. Frisbee from his land. YES-AUNT BEE SAYS IT FIRST AND THEN BARNEY REPEATS IT Just moving his lips Barney about Ben Weaver, but I don't remember what song it was. LEANING ON THE EERLASTING ARMS Some enchanted evening Clara playing the organ that was for sale and singing to the gentleman who owned it. YES, AND THE ORGAN WAS FOR THE CHURCH What have I to fear, what Have I to dread The Darlings singing at Charlene and Dud's second wedding. YES, LEANING ON THE EVERLASTING ARMS (AGAIN) Show some slides I think the Preacher (or was he a Missionary) who thought Aunt Bee was like his first wife showed slides. NO THIS WAS ANDY TALKING TO AUNT BEE AND SPEAKING OF HELEN. I BLEIVE ITS THE FRED GOSS EPSISODE WHEN CLARA MAKES AUNT BEE FEEL LIKE SHE'S IN THE WAY OF ANDY AND HELEN. IT'S THE ONLY TIME HELEN IS ASSOCIATED WITH CHURCH, ACTUALLY THE SUNDAY SCHOOL CLASS. Church weddin' Either it was when Ernest T insisted that Charlene and Dud weren't legally married because they weren't married by a Preacher, or the time Aunt Bee worked at the print shop and asked the customer if they were having a Church wedding (hey, maybe that's one of the weddings). (YES, RIGHT ON BOTH COUNTS) Hymn books Barney about Thelma Lou helping glue the covers back on Hymn books, but I don't remember who with. YES EDGAR COLEMAN Collection Plate Barney to the Preacher when he wore his uniform to Church. Yes 'THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MONEY IN... LATELY Guilty stains Andy and Barney were humming and singing it as they were going through paperwork at the courthouse. YES Breathe our evening prayer Andy, Barney and Otis when Otis was dreaming that he'd wrecked his car. YES--THE VACANT CHAIR Pool Table Emmit wanted to put a pool table in the Church basement. YES BUT IT WAS ELMO What episodes featured the Taylor's going to church? What's your hurry episode, When Barney wore his uniform episode, The Church organ, and they'd been to early service when they saw the Claude Beamon family going to Church. ALSO--THE EPISODE ABOUT CHOIR ROBES VS SPENDING MONEY TO LEVEL THE CHURCH THE EPISODE THAT AUNT BEE WORE A WIG TO CHURCH. MAN IN A HURRY, THE TAYLORS ARE JUST COMING OUT OF CHURCH AT THE BEGINNING THANKS FOR PLAYING EVERYONE!! The Untrained Voice--but semi-trained noticer ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Weddings and back to Church Trivia
Well some of you trained noticers have correctly identified that 2 weddings and one interrupted one took place somewhere other that a church. Rose and her husband (Sam?) (Courthouse) Ernest T and Barney/Charlene, (Darling home with visiting preacher) The young couple from the feuding families (Andy's house). There are least 4 other occasions when a wedding was planned that was not to be in a church. None of them took place, Can you name them? Also there was one more wedding that did take place--and this one may have actually been in a church--I need to find my tape and check. The name of the episode is a dead give-away. Who got married in that one? (and yes on RFD Andy and Helen did marry in a church.) Now back to my church trivia that no one has answered yet. For each of these quotes can you name: a) who said it b) about whom (where applicable) c) to whom or on what occasion White Bible Month of Sundays 16 years going to prayer meeting together noticed your new shirt waist maybe you should go to church more often Just moving his lips Some enchanted evening What have I to fear, what Have I to dread Show some slides Church weddin' Hymn books Noah and the Ark Collection Plate Guilty stains Little Brown Church Maybe the reverend can help Breathe our evening prayer Pool Table What episodes featured the Taylors going to church? The Untrained Voice Sgt at Arms, Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support Group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Apricot Queen case solved
Boy my question about the Apricot Queen timing woke up the trained noticers. Thank you all very much. I guess I did forget that a date was mentioned (or wasn't paying attention as noted) but dates are thrown around so much, and not always consistent that I didn't really think about that. I think what also threw me off is that Barney often told boyhood stories involving Andy, and he was comparing the situation to Trey and Opie--my first assumption was they were perhaps teens...but I think you guys cleared that up well. So what about Beaver Dam??? Is this the only time it is mentioned? Is it a natural wonder like the Robert E Lee bridge?? (actually built by beavers?) Or is it a man-made dam suitable for watching the water spray out, or skip rocks or fish??? Any why would it be a place to take visiting fruit royalty? (apricot queen) Do you think the Potato Queen (cannon episode) was jealous? And who eats all the apricots around here anyway? More thoughts to ponder The Untrained Voice I would probably buy a T-shirt, particularly if it had a picture of Mr. Schwamp on it and said something like. WBMUTBB Digest, 15-years of exploring the mysteries and fun of the Andy Griffith Show. Who is this man? ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Helen on Magazine Cover
For those of you who may occasionally pick up GAMES magazine...the cover on newsstands now features various school official whom you are suppose to identify what show they were on (and their character name) . There in living color, with red hair, is Mayberry's own Helen Crump. The best teacher of all television time!! I'm going to try my question of a few days ago again. When Barney passionately recounts the story of escorting the Apricot queen (Andy and Opie's pal featuring Tre) and he is still upset about Andy doing the escorting while he got stiffed. How long ago in the past do you think that happened? Were they teenagers?? Adults?? Just a year or so prior?? Barney makes reference to Juanita at the Diner..and to who eats all the apricots around here anyway/ Furniture Factory, Beaver Dam, the Diner... While you were escorting her around I was standing out in the blazing sun. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mayberry-type Experience
While traveling the past few weeks, I was sad to be away from my cable TV broadcasts of TAGS live, and my Tape/DVD collection as well, but I did enjoy a Mayberry type experience during our travels. While out in the wide open West we visited a place call Rawhide on the south side of Phoenix AZ. This place set up like a Western Town made me feel like I would see Clarence Earp and his manager round the corner at just any time. The town itself had wide open streets like Mayberry, with businesses such as a General Store, a Candy store, and of course a Sheriff's Office and Jail...with the old Sheriff sitting out front. Now he was like a sheriff from the old west, but the one-cell Jail in his small building bore a strange resemblance to Mayberry.Oh and back to Clarence..they had a real for-sure Wild West Show with fancy gun-slingin', whip-cracking and other cowboys talents (don't know about the arm-wrestling though) . In one of the shows they even did some wrastling in a nice soft pile of sand or sawdust (just like Opie and his friends and Clarence Earp and Goober) . The town also prominently featured a nice Cannon. I'm glad they voted to keep it. The restaurant had those nice red and white checkered table cloths. Well I had never been to a Wild West Show, but I think this came pretty close to the legend that was Clarence Earp. I know a few of you live out there so you may have been there as well. I could have gotten my picture taken in jail, but I was too cheap to part with the $10 to get arrested and then get my picture took. Its good to be back in the saddle at home, and seeing this Digest each day. I just watched with delight Barney's fit about Andy and the Apricot Queen. (this is during Andy and Opie's Pal--the episode about Tre). One thing I wondered about is this. Barney's tells the story as if he and Andy were young boys (maybe I just misunderstood that part) but he goes on with this list of where Andy took the Apricot Queen ...Furniture factory, Beaver Dam, and the Diner...and then he says something to that affect that Juanita verified that they went to the Diner. ...so did Juanita start working at the Diner as a teenager??? Or did I just misunderstand this story?? ...be interested in someone's thoughts on that..what age were Andy and Barney during the big Apricot Queen escorting mishap??? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Pickups and splashes from floor and pool
Has anyone seen the previews for Monster House? Its probably the best line using the work uvula since Barney Fife's famous I got a uvula, you've got a uvula, all God's children got a uvula. -- I'm not sure if anyone answered Marie's question below. Are these episodes complete and with original commercials or were these just taken off the TV? Do they have certain parts removed--notably, the Giraffe's are selfish speech B gives in D D D? Thanks to whoever has this info. Marie there are so many copies of these 16 episodes out there in the public domain its hard to tell. They are usually uncut, and if I remember right there is one epilog that didn't make it in the Paramount season series that is actually on one of these. -- I have been very swamped with my job so the ole Untrained Voice has been very quietly lately. I'll be gone on vacation now, so off-the-net for a few weeks, but I hope to get back into the mix when I return. We've had some good discussions, some serious, some funny. I have enjoyed them all. Reading this Digest is always a high point in my day. Thanks to all who have been contributing. I 'preciate it. The Untrained (and to quiet lately) Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Interim Foley
Someone mentioned the guy who came out of the grocery store when Barney was putting up campaign signs. If was a different Foley. It was in fact Tom Jacobs (a brother or step-brother to Danny Thomas). Other the Mr. Schwamp he was one of the greatest mysteries for a while. He shows up on bulldozers, in cars waiting for Gomer to pump gas, and generally all over town. He usually, but not always wears a white hat. Years ago, we thought he was Johnny Coons, because there was a credit listed for a Johnny Coons who never appeared (but Tom appeared in that episode). And folks would report (erroneously) Johnny Coons sightings on this Digest. I don't think he was ever credited, thus the mystery (or maybe he was--don't quote me on that) A couple of his most memorable scenes were 1) When Barney takes off the dress on the street and says to him What's a matter, haven't you ever seen a man take off a dress before? and 2) when Goober build the car in the Courthouse he speaks his only line How'd they do it Sheriff? as he is peeking in. Good ole Tom Jacobs--he was a grocery man...a Phantom Foley--just like the phantom Floyd in that other episode. Watch out for Flyin' Lead The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Wet streets
On another note, my wife noticed today that the street appeared wet when Andy and Helen picked up Opie from the party in Opie's First Love, which aired today on TV Land. That would be another rare example of rain in Mayberry--if only a brief shower. Kyle in Nashville What day was that Kyle? You know they wash the streets down every time there is a fifth Saturday in the month. And then in the summer, the boys at firehouse flush out the hydrants once or twice. Barney's hates that cause it makes his shoes squeak..and the back's aint shiny. (he has to hold back traffic so's the kids can play in the water) I'm tellin you all for the last time to disperse and quit congregatin unlawfully. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Mayberry moment
Yesterday I had to go out and do some hedge trimming. As I pondered a couple options as to how to shape them--I remembered the sage wisdom of Opie Taylor--Paw usually just lops of the top--so that's exactly what I did..though I thought about going fishin'. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Schwamp additional thoughts
Accd to Inside Mayberry, the phantom actor was in nine: 113, My Fair Ernest T. Bass; 133, the Education of Ernest T. Bass; 123, The Fun Girls; 141, Otis Sues the County; 175, Otis the Artist; 203, Only a Rose; 210, Floyd's Barbershop; 240, Barney Hosts a Summit Meeting; and 247, Sam for Town Council Seems like there were more, but it may be that Old Man Schwump was just so ubiquitous! DOUG GIBSON OGDEN, UT Well Doug, you never forget someone at your wedding or Bachelor party, and good ole Mr. Schwamp was at Andy's bachelor luncheon in a Mayberry RFD episode. As I have pointed our before most of these occasions were social gatherings and Mr. Schwamp never missed an opportunity to show up dressed up for root beer and polite murmuring. If fact on a couple of occasions (the Lodge and Sam for Council) he is shown early..but not later in the event. This is the basis for my theory that he gets a buzz from root beer and over-imbibes just a bit, and has to leave early. You didn't mention the Lodge episode in your official list, but I think he is there. He is seem murmuring in two episodes I believe, In the Fun Girls, he can be seen seated at a table with root beer in hand in the company of a La-dy murmuring. Also..(and this is just my theory) in Otis the Artist, he is at the big event and a woman says to him Those were nice fair speeches He misunderstands thinking she said hair piece and responds Thank You, I got it in Mt Pilot Did Barney say the line, I don't want to be standing in no stag line with old man Schwump and a bunch of slumped over teenage boys? Don't confuse Mr. Schwamp with Ole Man Perkins--They both may go to parties stag, but only one of them can smile and nod his way into meeting a Russian diplomat. The Untrained Voice Sgt at Arms, Schwamp Fan Club and Hair Loss Support Group ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Check it out for yourself
This Tuesday Night on Cable Channel TCM will be the movie Picnic Lets all double check and see if its William Holden and Not Cary Grant who stars. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Oops Library note overdue
I just messed an issue. Sorry the Library issue was already covered --TUV ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Pickups and Splashes from Floor and Pool
However my question is this: Why did she virtually disappear? Howard went off to the Caribbean w/nary a mention of Mrs. Sprague. Surely, she would have been there to see him off. I remember reading somewhere that Jack Dotson, or the producers, thought she was confining his character too much. I was over at the Dime Store buying some buttons and bows for my Easter dress when the Digest came in and I read where I was accused of cheating on Goober. Oh, to be falsely accused of immorality! The pain of it all! The suffering. And I who has suffered so much already! Why me, Lord, why, why, why? Well dear Lydia would you care to explain what the butcher boy was doing at your house for 3-4 hours?? I think there were other references to the Mayberry Library. Barney went over there once to get a book on Mountain folklore, to come up with a plan to get Andy out of marrying Charlene due to the Divorce proceedings. Perhaps Opie just went to the Mt. Pilot Library because they had more historical reference material. --- I was gone for a couple weeks, so I'm just catchin up. Got many giggles out of two weeks of Digest material. I look forward to checking out that Gossip website. I enjoyed the discussion of what Mayberry would be like today. Surprised no one mentioned (but I could have missed) that Sarah would not be needed. Perhaps she'd have a local office for the phone company and sign folks up for DSL and Cell Phones??? If they had Cell Phones Andy would have never missed Peggy, Barney and Floyd would never went to OMalley's place looking for gas...and like someone said Mr. Tucker would never have experienced Mayberry. I'm glad the technology did not exist then. _ I got to experience a Howard Sprague like Fantasy trip. My wife and I went to Hawaii for our 25th. I thought of Howard and his temporary paradise when we were at some secluded beautiful spots (different ocean though--not Atlan)..but I didn't see any ships in a bottle. I think we got really close to Jim Nabors house, but the tour guide didn't point it out specifically. Of course I would have hopped out and had my picture taken with his newspaper until the maid shewed me off. The price of land there is unbelievable. I think Barney should have combined his Real Estate and Investment skills and bought land there 40 years ago. I missed you guys I still miss ole Bighead in Deetroit The Untrained Voice rehabilitating with my Mr. Potato Head Set ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
That 30th Anniv show
Was that tall Goober in the audience on the 30th Anniversary show our own Jim Clark? I had a tape of that special and I remember seeing Jim in the crowd. The tape went bad as one of my buddies here tried to copy it for some of you, but I had seen it a few times. Speaking of Jim, Thanks for the nice Don Knotts tribute/stories in the bullet. We all admire you and at the same time are jealous of all your TAGS personality interactions. Many things you've done I've thought I was just thinking of doing the same thing..but unlike Barney, it didn't hit me right after you said/did it--I was about 20-years slower. You and Allan and others, were on the cutting edge of what it takes to be a true TAGS fan and do something about it. I bought some new batteries the other day, and it came with a free whistle, with a compass and a secret compartment (that a bullet would fit in.) I kept it for Barney. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
North Country
One has to understand that up here in the north country, TAGS is not as well known as it is in the south. But I am trying my hardest to spread the good news of St. Andrew and St. Bernard. And it is slowly but surely catching on. Kenneth G. Anderson Ken, first of all you are to be commended for teaching the good word, and using Mayberry to do it. If I could present you with a white Bible I would do it. Now I have to good-naturedly poke at you a little for generalizing about the north country. I'm speaking for Indiana which is north of the Mason Dixon line, but not as close to Can-Na-Da as good ole O' Clare Wis (Eau Claire)but Mayberry is well-known around here...and we're definitely not the South Perhaps the local channels there have not shown TAGS as much over the years. And before we besmirch the North, don't forget our Friend Marsha and her husband have that Andy Taylor home replica up there in Minnesota!! Proud to be a Mayberry Hoosier along with Mike Creech, Mike Peacock, Danna from Indiana, Frank from Centerville IN, Ted from Indy, and many many more. Home of Mayberry in The Midwest and The Mayberry Café (Danville IN) and one of the few places Jim Nabors leaves Hawaii for (The Indy 500) Anybody else wanna tell Ken about how strong Mayberry is in your part of North Country? The Untrained Voice--Westfield IN With warmest tribute to another North Country buddy Bighead in Dee-troit (O'Malley says the Motor City mourns the loss one if its own, and prays for the Krentz family) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Cartoon link
Sorry that editorial cartoon link expired by the time it got posted. If you were very creative you could have selected the date March 18 and it wood come up. It was a caricature of Barney Fife, with a UN badge on and he says I want Iran to Nip it in the bud. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
The spirit of Barney lives on
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060318/OPINION02/30 3180001/1093 See editorial cartoon ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Jeff Krentz
I, like all of you, am stunned by the loss of our friend, Jeff Krentz. I'd like to thank the family member or frined who was kind enough to let us know of his passing. Our thoughts and prayers are certanily with his wife Sue and his children Bryan and Alison. What a loss. I never met Jeff, but he was one of those guys that I think if we met we'd immediately hit if off, talking about our favorite show. When I saw Jeff's name it the header, I always knew he was going to say smething funny or interesting. It seemed like I just saw his name a few days ago, so I had to go im my private archives and look. Indeed, he mourned with us over Don Knott's passing. (see below) With all respect I wanted to copy the last few things I saw from Jeff. You will be missed, my friend, say Hello to Don Knotts for us. -- Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:19:51 -0500 From: Jeff Krentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not a Nickname To: WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:00:04 -0600, you wrote: Right off the bat, I can think of Goob for Goober, Nita for Juanita, and Charlie or Chuck for Charles O'Malley. How about Third Party (It's not dirty) not exactly a nickname, but I just like sayin' it. Jeff Krentz -BigHead in Dee-Troit (O'Malley says Lots of People Lie at Lunch!) -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:28:59 -0500 From: Jeff Krentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gomer Singing To: WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:00:04 -0600, you wrote: hen Gomer enters the Sheriff's office singing From the Halls of Montazuma...to the shores of Tripoli ... he is singing in his Gomer voice rather than his deep singing voice he was known to have had in prior episodes. You misspelled Mont-a-zoomer and you are right about the voice, I never thought about that before. I'm going over to Reindel Hardware downtown here and get a new galvanized bucket, just for thinkin' purposes. Jeff Krentz -BigHead in Dee-Troit (O'Malley says Do you suppose they'll ask me that!) - I feel the same way. I worked late yesterday and heard about Don's passing on the radio. I went home and as I was telling my wife about it I was leaking some tears too. What a great man he was, and what an influence on my life. I, too, knew this day would come, but I didn't want it to ever happen. I am sad, very sad. Jeff Krentz -BigHead in Dee-Troit (O'Malley says Thank You Don!) --- ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Cut scenes etc
I agree with Shelia on this TV land thing. Before the show is really over you get an ad! And not only that a lot of scene are being deleted from the TVLand shows! Funny scenes! Some of us should express our views. There is strength in numbers! Liz Citizens Arrest Roberts Sorry, but us old timers just have to grin a little. Here is a little history lesson, though history is not really my subject. If the era of Griffith watching BTL (that's before TVLand) WGN and WTBS and all those station had most of those scenes included, but they cut off the epilogs. We whined and we moaned and we pleaded for years...oh please let us see what happens in the epilog!!! (the last few minutes after the plot is really solved) you can cut any thing but let us see the epilog.There was a nice website Elinor's Epilogs that you could go read about what happens in the epilogs that we never saw. Only the folks lucky enough to have local stations that showed episodes in their entirety, or the Colombia House VHS tape collection ever saw Epilogs. They were about as big a mystery as Mr. Scwhamp to most of us. Then came TVLand. In the reality of broadcast/cable TV business today, they are not going to show as many minutes of a show as they did back in the 60's, so something had to be cut. The something they have to cut has to be something that does not ruin the story line, or cause the resulting episode to make no sense. They heard us whining fans and decided to reinstitute the epilogs. So they end up cutting scenes that are not critical to the story, but sadly are some of the funniest, most memorable moments. So its our fault (the old fans who used to complain about the other cable channels cutting the epilog) I guess. Now, for the uptiumpth time..the DVDs are uncut except for one or two reported epilogs missing. There are no missing scenes. Overheard at TVLand headquarters You give 'em partial Epilogs, they want the whole epilog You give 'em the whole epilog, the want deleted scenes You give 'em deleted scenes, they want to see the credits run You give 'em credits, they want to see the original commercials You give'em 5 episodes a week they want 10 You give 'em 10 they want 15 Andy Now you see son, there's a ratio of people out there, about 3 and half boys per 10 that don't even get cable or Tvland..Now isn't that really the people that should be sad. Poor Horatio...lets not forget those half-a-boys with no cable The Untrained Voice spoiled rotten with local station, TVLand, DVDs and VHS tapes. I hate it when I get obtuse ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
That awards show--time to laugh
Did I miss it? During the Academy Awards program I watched all the names of the fine talents that left us this past year, and I didn't see Dennis Weaver, Darren McGavin or Don Knotts. I believe they all had worked in Hollywood before, and had been in motion pictures. I know it's a club, and what kind of club would it be if they let everybody in? It's the kind of club that if they do this to Don Knotts, I don't want anything to do with it. Andge in Bethlehem, GA Andge, I noticed the same apparent slight, but my guess is that video tribute was put together a few weeks ago, and thus preceded the deaths of those you mentioned including Don. I would assume that the hero of the Apple Dumpling gang will be included next year. Thanks for the tip that Larry King Live (with Andy et al) was repeated Sat night. I hosed up my tape the first time. I enjoyed the reflections. Well I think we can continue some reverent tributes, but I think what Don would want before long, is for us all to laugh again...to enjoy Barney Fife. So if you're up to laughing again, give a Barney quote before you close Andy We could start a history troop--Mayberry minutemen Barney Will you help us!!! I mean them? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Corrected Barney Tribute
Hey I've gotten a couple nice notes about my last post, and I really feed bad that I had a couple typo's in it, so I wanted to send again with corrections. Thanks again Bill of the Desert for the idea. Thanks for the Memories A Deputy named Fife, Thelma Lou his future wife, it doesn't matter that he caught just a few crooks in his life...We'll miss him so much Another hapless Jailbreak... A confident smirk and shake... another messed up fishing trip for Andy at the lake We'll miss our Bar-ney It seems he's doomed to fail, nothin' but good guys locked in jail, but somehow his pal Andy will get him a commendation in the mail...That's our De--puty Fife His deputy recruits are a joke, everyone knows he'll go for broke, he'll make a federal case out of a harmless little poke, but that's just... Bar-ney Thank God we've got TV, VHS and DVD, for years to come--generations won't be glum...cause we'll laugh and love our Bar--ney!! He's really a live wire, Many-a-shot he will misfire, but in the end, our singing friend is finally in the Heavenly Choir...We will miss him so much. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Barney Fife more tribute
During our lifetime we travel many roads. Some big roads, some little roads, rocky roads and smooth roads, dirt highways and improved highways. - Barney Fife Barney, this is a rocky road for your admirers. I want to give a word of encouragement also to Betty Lynn. She is kind of the social secretary that keeps all the remaining cast members connected. She too has lost a great friend. Thanks to Sam from Knoxville and others who supplied to word to the Vacant Chair. It seems so appropriate right now. Here ya go Bill (Bob Hope Song) Thanks for the Memories A Deputy named Fife, Thelma Lou his future wife, it doesn't matter that he caught just a few crooks in his life...We'll miss him so much Another hapless Jailbreak... A confident smirk and shake... another messed up fishing trip for Andy at the lake We'll miss our Bar-ney It seems he's doomed to fail, nothin' but good guys locked in jail, but somehow his pal Andy will get him a commendation in the mail...That's our De--puty Fife His deputy recruits are a joke, everyone knows he'll go for broke, he'll make a federal case out of a harmless little poke, but that's just... Bar-ney That God we've got TV, VHS and DVD for years to come, generations won't be glum...cause we'll laugh and love our Bar--ney!! He's really is a live wire, Many-a-shot he will misfire, but in the end, our singing friend is finally in the Heavenly Choir...We will miss him so much. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Barney Leaving and Sad Sad news
I can already tell that I am going to get very depressed watching the last episodes knowing that they are going to in some way involve Barney leaving. It is stressing me out thinking about it. I have thought about watching season 5 in reverse getting the last episodes first so that I could end on a good funny note instead of a depressing one. Any thoughts on this. Joe, Fredericksburg, TX My fellow Joe Not to worry. There are no references to Barney leaving at the end of season 5. He is just absent from the last two episodes dealing with the carnival (one of them with Jerry Van Dyke). At the time, they didn't do that much (write characters out), and I'm not sure of the timing of Andy deciding to go ahead and do the next season. (Don Knotts make Movie/contract arrangements thinking season 5 would be the last of the series before Andy changed his mind). How sad the news I have just seen though that Barney has indeed left in real life. Our beloved Don Knotts has passed on to the great Mayberry in the sky. Thanks Allan for the tribute photo's on Mayberry.com. The words just do not come easy to deal with this loss, but I know many of you will share words of solace and tribute of this late great character actor. I can only begin by saying. I'm thankful for the reunion show that was done just a year or so ago..and that Don got his much deserved star on the Hollywood walk of fame. Right now, all I can see in my mind's eye is The Vacant Chair--the one just to the left of the desk as you face the sheriff. We shall miss him indeed. Could someone post the words to The Vacant Chair. I can't find them at the moment. With great sadness The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Current Movie TAGS twist
I had the pleasure of viewing 'Curious George' this evening in Annapolis, MD. Ronny and Co. did an awesome job on the project. There is a parallel between Desilu Studios and the cargo hold of the H.A. Rey. They probably looked the same after 1971. I'm picturing a lot of crates, boxes, and a big empty room. I also saw a recent movie and thought of our favorite show. I would recommend the movie Eight Below It will give new meaning to Opie's refrain. What about those dogs? You just left them out there all alone! Boy that last Digest reminded me of that Gypsy song---same words over and over again. The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Whats in a nick
I'm also enjoying the nickname discussion Did anyone mention Virg for cousin Vigil. In the color Episode A Visit to Barney Fife he referred to Mrs. Parker as Ma just like he was one of the family. In also seems like he referred to the Police Secretary by some nickname like sweetheart or something. Wonder why he didn't nick Vasilly-ovich?? you're a character The Untrained... ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Funny Lines should stand on their own
I've been reading with interest the Funny Line discussion The original poster mentioned Barney's line about Dogs, nothing but Dogs, if your flew a quail through here, every one of them would point What is really good about that line is it stands on its own..you don't really have to see the picture, or know the context for it to be funny.. Some of the others mentioned, are what I would Call Favorite Lines like Welcome to Checkpoint Chickie Because they remind us of a funny scene...but they don't stand on their own without the scene. Here is another good funny line from Neal that stands on its own. Another funny one that I use sometimes - It's not a whim any more if you put on clean underwear!!! Brad Neil Bentley Cunningham I know some hate it when I get a little obtuse. Just trying to focus on funny lines..not just lines from funny scenes. -- Loved the Valentine reminders, Thanks, it also helps if you can sing on the phone Ni-ta Juuu--- Nita!!! Also, be ready for sweaty palms (from Opie) MEAT! now see that's a funny scene, but not a funny line The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Not Howard McNear--Guest Stars--Guest stars
I was watching the episode last night where Andy and Barney catch on the brothers robbing Wally's. In one scene Andy and Barney both talk to a gentleman in front of the courthouse sitting on a bench. He has a hat on and is carving a piece of wood. He shows it to Andy and Andy replies, good...tell me what it is and I'll give you fifty cents. Barney then acknowledges the gentleman and says something to effect of , nice work. The man appears to be Howard McNear or Floyd himself. Once this episode taped close to his stroke? Perhaps Howard could not speak at that time. Does anyone know? I just saw that scene within the last week, (and I don't think it was in the Filling Station Robbery Episode --trained noticer help?) and I'm pretty sure it's not Howard McNear. Also I don't believe they ever used an established main character as a background actor. -- I was wondering if anyone knows how many people actually played 2 or more roles on the show. I am at a loss for this gentleman's name but he also played Gomer Pyle USMC. He played the man who sold the vegetables on the side of the road and Barney ran off. And played on a few other episodes of TAGS.Are there many other people that played duel roles? Thanks, Frank Johnson Frank, my fellow Hoosier, I want you to go to this website. its actually on the www.Mayberry.com site on the right hand side where it says Cast member/Episode Database http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/anewsome/private/searchcastfile. htm Type names like Allan Melvin, Bob McQuain and Mary Lansing. You type the first name in one blank and the last name in another blank, hit the search button and see what you find out? There are many many dual roles (triple etc.) but if I gave you all of them you would miss the fun of discovery. You too can be a Mayberry detective and discover that Barney's Voice teacher could also dance!! The Untrained Voice!! ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
TAGS sighting
Has anyone seen the movie Fun with Dick and Jan yet? For those that have. Am I correct. Not only do we see Clint Howard (Leon), but as an INS officer he utters the name Opie Taylor??? Quite a good connection for us TAGS noticers (if I am correct) Also one of my favorite childhood book series will soon be linked with a favorite childhood star. Ron Howard is producing a movie about Curious George Can the Legend of Sleep Hollow be far behind? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Dance with the Mayberry Stars
Well this week one of those Reality shows comes back. Dance with the Stars It reminds me of just how many dance scenes and references were included in our favorite show. On that new show they will also feature celebrities doing different types of dancing, but how many types/variations did we see in Mayberry?? Ballroom Dancing--Barney and Maude. The Cha Cha Cha--Nate Bracey and wife The Gomer High Step--Gomer and Mary Grace The Dip (also part of Ballroom)--Barney and his Salt and Pepper The Switch Partner's game--at Mrs. Wiley's (I'm cuttin' in) The Switch Partner's Shuffle at the Chamber Dance??--You're the only one I LOVE!! The Bachelor Pad Boogey (Howard and friends) --Go man Go (poor Helen) The Waltz--(Aunt Bee and Opie 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3) The Modern kid's Dance--Opie and his girl The goofy Paw trying to do a Modern Kid's Dance (poor Andy) The Barney broom shuffle ( in Mayberry tonight-- pa da pa pa pa) The Sleep Walkin Warren Tango--Warren and Helen, Warren and Aunt Bee The Gypsy Rain dance The Hoochy Koochy Carnival Girl dance (with the one man band) The Charlene Salty Dog Square Dance The 'Sally Dances with Al at the KitKat Club Dance The Guys night out Dance Club (where Howard made time with his Little Brother's older sister) The Charleston (by the High School group-Color episode) The Romantic Reunion Dance (Andy and Sharon Despain) What other Dancers/Dance types, Dance references do you remember? The Untrained Voice ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://mail.wbmutbb.com/mailman/listinfo/wbmutbb_wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
