[web2py] Re: [web2py:31163] Re: Custom form builder appliance?
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:08:57 -0700 (PDT) mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: No but it would be really nice. If done right the same code would be use to build tables (models) and forms. I know it's an old thread, but I hope you won't mind... Playing with Instant Press in order to move my 1st site from PHP CMS to Web2py, but I wonder if there is something done in regard to form builder which could help with creating forms or we should build 'em manually ? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: mailing list and web2py apps
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:22:43 -0300 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Try to find some contact, forum, blog, discussion, repository if the app For now I did: 2a. Create issue(s) on app's (Instant Press) tracker (bitbucket). ;) Sincerely, Gour p.s. Probably those issues are not so difficult to fix, but, atm, are preventing me from deploying my first site(s) on production server. -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: mailing list and web2py apps
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:23:18 -0300 Martín Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering number eleven :P /me hopes it's just a good joke... Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: criticism of web2py
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: We need to do this +1 When I asked in Django about some CMS, the answer was: build one your self!* * situation in the meantime has changed a bit and now there are some decentt * CMS engines like Django CMS, FeinCMS, Mezzanine... However, as Richard said in some posts below, I'm not a geek in the sense to write everything from the scratch, but would prefer working with higher-level components (like add-ons in Concrete5 parlance) in order to build web sites. Of course, by taking advantage of Web2py and diving into writing plugins, one may evolve into geek or not, but, at least, there is space to contribute to web2py's ecosystem and make it more widely adopted by not so savvy users. Actually I would like that be part of the book 4th ed and that is causing some delays. I'm patient to receive good ed of Web2py book... web2py.com/appliances is crap and should be disappear. I fully agree with that. The plugin sites should be merged into one that makes it easy for people to contribute. +1 Instant-press is the de-fact CMS and I think it can be packaged with other apps (for example PyForum, pyStack, IssueTracker, etc) to build a suite of production tools perhaps using federated authentication. plugin_wiki needs modules for rss, ics, shopping cart and payments, and google maps. It sounds as nice master-plan. I'd like to contribute, but I'm afraid if web2py noob can be competent enough to separate the wheat from the chaff. Hopefully, more experienced web2py users can jump in and help to organize web2py site on a higher or component-level. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:17:32 -0700 (PDT) James M. sipajah...@gmail.com wrote: There is alot of activity on this newsgroup, which can make it challenging to find answers to previously asked questions... signal to noise mismatch. Hmm...I'm total noob here and can easily select/filter threads that speaks about the stuff which is above my head. Otoh, I believe that extracting FAQ entries from the newsgroup would serve better than another SO forum...considering that certain topics are already answered. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: criticism of web2py
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Farsheed Ashouri farsheed.asho...@gmail.com wrote: Just for test, use Django for a week and you'll be back to Web2py soon than we expected and with headaches!! I tried it and now I'm here. Every day, I am creating a new website for my clients. I just wonder if your client(s) want CMS, blog, forms...what do you use? Is one supposed to build everything from scratch or I'm simply not aware-enough of components ready to be used for CMS, building forms, blog... Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: criticism of web2py
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:36:41 +0100 Sebastian E. Ovide sebastian.ov...@gmail.com wrote: Hiya Sebastian, It is not just my personal opinion (or it is?) but doesn't matter how long you will look for, you won't find the perfect/ultimate language/framework. In ALL the tools that I've used in the past (and present) I've found things that made my work simpler and enjoyable and things that made my work more complicated and less pleasant... I'm very well aware there is no silver bullet... All depends on what you need to do... Well, my web needs are moderate... I want to have nice platform to allow me to easily build small-medium web sites ranging from site for our small company, non-profit organization, private one, sites for friends, relatives etc. At the moment for some of them I use PHP solutions (e.g. Concrete5) and although I like the platform providing decent CMS, nice blog and plethora of add-ons, there are some gotchas: 1) it's PHP into which I do not want to go (considering we'll soon start work on pyqt desktop app) and prefer to stay with Python 2) the code/environment is not as nicely organized 3) almost every add-on is commercial and along with 1) we lack ability to customize/build everything according to our needs Those reasons have brought me to Python where I tried/played with Django for some time, but, somehow 'nothing clicked in my brain' and I have arrived to Web2py which satisfy 1-3 above. :-) Of course, Web2py CMS (e.g Instant Press) is not as feature-wise as Concrete5, blog is not capable as e.g. C5's Pro Blog, there are not so many add-ons (plugins) as for C5, but we're thinking about the future. However, we're ready to learn and master web2py and help to become even better platform for developing (small-medium) sites offering many free plugings so that one an easily achieve everything as with e.g. Concrete5 by using secure Python framework. So I would say that it depends in what you have to do, web2py could save you a lot of time... just give it a try for a full small project and then you will be able to give back your opinions... I hope that above explains a bit what I'm into...hoping that web2py is the right choice for that. all the best Thank you for your input. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: really nice credit card processing service
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: No. But they provide Python api and I think will will be better than paypal, google checkout and authorize.net for most users. But it's avaialable only for US merchants. :-/ Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: criticism of web2py
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the criticism is fueled by stakeholders in other python frameworks. Even if those are open source projects, they have consulting based on their frameworks (and that is perfectly reasonable) therefore when another framework steals their customers and wins awards they see it as a bad thing. He he, this is a good one. There may also be a component of cognitive dissonance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes lol While I do agree that a person who does not have a formal education can be smarter, know more, and accomplish more than a person who did spend long time in school, statistically that is not that case. /me nods There are exceptions, of course... People in academia are motivated by the desire to push science and technology forward as opposed by the immediate need to generate profit. This is good explantion. That is why it bothers me that some of the people in industry who have profited from (and contributed to) open source, look down to projects originating from academia. Thank you very much for your input. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] criticism of web2py
Hello! I'm starting with python web2py and yesterday visited Hello, I'm starting with Python Web2Py and yesterday visited one python-related project channel where I mentioned web2py and as the consequence I was quickly advised to abandon it due to 'non-Pythonic' etc. This is not the first time I hear people criticise web2py due to, amongst other things, breaking Explicit is better than implicit. principle alothough Massimo nicely explains it in the introduction of web2py book. I played for sometime with the Haskell, but eventuall abandon it due to not being pragmatic enough for daily use (e.g. all GUI bindings are maintained by few people only). The same situation was/is with D. Now, I see Python as very pragmatic language, with lot of 'batteries included' and very suitable for all kinds of tasks, so I wonder waht is the real reason of web2py criticism: a) stubborness of (python) people to see that Explicit is better than implicit. is not engraved in stone and can be violated to keep DRY, b) envy of web2py's success c) something else? As far as I'm concerned, I do not care much 'cause I'm accustomed to do things which are not mainstream, but just curios what do you think? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: criticism of web2py
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:04:19 +0200 (CEST) Roberto De Ioris robe...@unbit.it wrote: If you want an adivse, do not trust those kind of people. :-) Whoever claim itself a technology-guy and has fear of diversity, or 'non-ortodox' approaches should probably start looking in other areas... /me fully agrees If someone blaim a project because it does not work, it has horrible documentation or the author likes killing kitten, this is good. But blaming a project for not being loyal to some concept is silly. It looks like more a religious approach than a techy one. Indeed. Web2py works (and most of the time it simply works thanks to its design), it is well documented and AFAIK Massimo does not like killing kittens. That's good to know. ;) But yes, if your priest.py does not approve it, do not use it :P I'll investigate about it, but it might be that priest.py is even recommending it. :-D Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] mailing list and web2py apps
Hello! I'd not like to hijack this mailing list with the posts about issues with web2pyapps if it's not meant for that, so what is the lists' policy about it? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: new web2py issue tracking app
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Please help me test it and suggest improvements: Do you think it could serve as replacement for Roundup tracker? I'm thinking to use Roundup for tracking patient's record and their history data (kind of EMR app)...it would be jice to stay in the web2py realm. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] instant press: pingback support?
Hello! Does Instant Press have support for pingback? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] does markin support centered images?
Hello! I've started to play with Instant Press 2.0 and noticed that image cannot be centered on the page using markmin markup. It works with 'left' 'right', but neither with 'center' nor 'centered'. Do I miss something? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] markmin vs. reST
Hello! I see that markmin is kind of 'standard' markup supported in web2py, but I use reST markup and lot (even submitted feature request to Instant Press to support it), but I wonder how does markmin, in general, compare with reST? I noticed that there is no support for footnotes, tables look pretty simple... Otoh, the web2py book is written in markmin... I read 'Why?' (http://web2py.com/examples/static/markmin.html), but wonder what was e.g. wrong with reST which is quite strongly tied with Python community? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: markmin vs. reST
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Our goals were: - simpler then reST, similar to Markdown but more powerful That's good one...I like markdown as well. - extensible Any more info about it? Do you find markmin semantically rich-enough for writing books like web2py one? I wonder about footnotes, more complex tables, more subsubsections... Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: markmin vs. reST
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Footnotes can be added easily and sublists too. It is on the todo list. That's great. Thank you. btw, hearing that markmin is more powerful than markdown, maybe it should be renamed to MarkUp, or, at least, markmax. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Instant Press 2.0
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:04:48 -0300 Martín Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com wrote: I decide to release a new version of instant press: version 2.0https://bitbucket.org/mulonemartin/instantpress/wiki/Home, many changes from the original version 1.0. I think I rewrite almost everything, now is based on the work of powerpack. Yes I know I have to work in documentation and the site, is a pending task. Require web2py trunk because it use the new grid. Thank you, Martin, a lot!! I saw on bitbucket that it was tagged as 2.0 some time ago, but wondered why there is no 'official' release'. Now I'm peaceful and can start migrating one of my PHP sites to web2py and learn about the framework. As you can see, Instant Press was dealmaker here. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Instant Press 2.0
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: I think Instant Press 1.0 included CKEditor -- have you thought about offering that as an option in Instant Press 2.0 as well? Although it would be nice to have CKEditor included, I wonder about different markup support? On video I see it's present and web page says: CMS content: Edit in markup language. Supported: Markmin, Html, Markdown, Textile. but I am, somehow, missing it? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Instant Press 2.0
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:33:35 -0300 Martín Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com wrote: CKeditor as a default editor not for now. But let me think if we can add as optional. CKeditor is heavy, slow, too much. The editor included is fast lightweight, and support multiples markup languages. I included textile support because can handle chained list that markmin can't. Personally I'd like to use Markdwon (I suppose it's richer than markimin), but I do not see any option to select some markup as it is seen on the video? Do I miss something? p.s. Ahh...When I added new page and displayed its info, I saw it's in 'markmin markup' and then after selecting 'Content' I could see dropbox to select markdown. So, my conclusion is that having both 'Edit' 'Content' is a bit confusing? Isn't the one of them obsolete/redundant? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Instant Press 2.0
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:54:35 +0200 Johann Spies johann.sp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for making this available. I have tried it out, but I could not log in as admin because some characters of initial the password appeared as blocks on my browser (Firefox 5.0). I will try on another computer with a different locale setup later. I had problem logging with Firefox which was insisting to use 'admin' instead of 'Admin'. Finally, logged in in Midori browser, added 'gour' as admion user and rm-ed old Admin. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: billing app
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:03:03 +0300 Kenneth Lundström kenneth.t.lundst...@gmail.com wrote: Now you can have a look at it at http://web2py.nudata.fi/em It's very nice, and based on brief overlook, it looks as capable as PHP's MyClientBase. :-) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: billing app
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:07:30 +0300 Kenneth Lundström kenneth.t.lundst...@gmail.com wrote: if you want a copy of the code I can send it, or if somebody else wants a copy let me know. +1 gour at atmarama dot net Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: preparing for 1.99.1
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: There is huge list of new features already in trunk that will be included in 1.99.1 [...] I am forgetting something important? Am I forgetting to acknowledge your contribution? What about the docs/book? Will everything from the list become documented and the book updated accordingly? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: billing app
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:05:50 +0300 Kenneth Lundström kenneth.t.lundst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Nikolai, I have created a simple billing application that contains customers, products, hour tracker (simple) and receipt handling. If interested I could during the weekend put up a english version of it (Well swedish too it thats better) so you can check it out. I'd be interested for web2py billing app as well. So, far, the best what I've found is MyClientBase (http://www.myclientbase.com/) which is nice but being written in PHP limits my enthusiasm to hack on it. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] new version of printed book?
Hello! The end of the month is approaching and although we're busy doing some amanda backups in order to safely return back to (arch(linux, we're wondering what's with the new version of printed web2py book? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: new version of printed book?
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: It is although the process is manual. You email me you purchase receipt and I email you a link to the pdf book. I'd like to buy new printed edition and wonder when it will be available. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: new version of printed book?
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully by the end of september. OK. Thank you for the info. We'll be patient. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Memory problems on Webfaction
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:21:50 +0200 Johann Spies johann.sp...@gmail.com wrote: I experience memory usage problems on Webfaction from time to time. Even after doubling the initial configuration from 80Mb to 160Mb I get messages like intermittently this from Webfaction: Install your own instance of nginx, Cherokee...and save memory. Otoh, I was on webfaction on moved to djangohosting.ch where I can use my own instance of Cherokee. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Memory problems on Webfaction
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:42:39 +0200 Johann Spies johann.sp...@gmail.com wrote: I have read mentions of nginx on this list but know about nothing about it. Can this be done on Webfaction? How? Check forums...I'm not on Webafcation since quite some time, but, iirc, there was thread in the forums how to install it. Personally, I used my own instance of Cherokee webserver. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: adopt an app!
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:01:12 -0700 (PDT) pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm hoping to work on ecommerce/cart/storefront, probably starting from scratch and not using estore. But this should not discourage anyone from also pursuing this app as I am not sure how far I will get and when. I'm interested for that one as well...but give me some time...Have to finish some other work and then learn some web2py...I also plan to buy upcoming new edition of the book coming, as Massimo wrote, by the end of Aug. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: infoworld put web2py in the top of python frameworks
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 04:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: :-) Congrats to Massimo and all other devs for such a godo score. Personally, I'm happy that I joined the right camp. :-) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] web2py repo format at LP
Hello! I've decided to use web2py for all my needs instead of Django...one of the first thing how I want to contribute is by some translation work and since I keep all my work under DVCS - bzr is my preferred DVCS (after spending several years with darcs) over git hg - I went to pull web2py branch from Launchpad repo. Too bad, but the repo is in older (less efficient) repo format-1, so here is my humble request (if it won't make too much hassle for devs or if there is some other specific reason) if it's possible to convert web2py repo at LP to format-2? Sincerely, Gour I -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: web2py repo format at LP
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 01:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Massimo, we use mostly mercurial and I have not put much attention into bzr. That's OK. Mercurial is nice, better (imho) than git and I've bzr-hg plugin installed. :-) Can you tell he how to change format from 1 to 2? Here is the upgrade guide: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/upgrade-guide/index.html It depends on the bzr version you have on your machine. If it's new-enough, then you can do it in a few simple steps. Here is what I did: 1) bzr branch lp:~mdipierro/web2py/devel 2) cd devel; bzr check 3) bzr upgrade --format=2a 4) bzr push lp:~gour/web2py/devel The above upgrade guide speaks about stuff like 'Look for “XXX is the current focus of development”' but that I do not see in this case. Maybe it's visible to you. (See 'Migrating branches on Launchpad' section.) I have no objection in principle but it will happen sooner if you can save me time. ;-) Sure. Thank you for considering to upgrade. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] what is web2py equivalent of django's reusable app
More than two and half years ago I played with Django and became enamored by hearing high-selling points about (Django's) re-usable apps. However, real life was not so thrilling and I went back to PHP. iWhen I did return to Python/Django I experienced (again) apps which use the same reusable app (mptt) but not compatible versions. :-/ Now when I signed for web2py, I'm curious what would be web2py's equivalent of reusable app in Django or it cannot be clearly translated and the truth is somewhere in between, e.g. combination of plugin, component etc.? I'm curios to clarify it since I have ideas for some web2py stuff which atm exist in the form of several django-xyz apps and attempt to provide something of it for web2py might be worthy learning experience. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] web2py-piwik
Hello, for my present PHP web sites I use Piwik (http://piwik.org/) - open source web analytics software. I also know about 'django-piwik' (https://github.com/francois2metz/Python-piwik) and wonder if there is something for web2py? I couldn't find anything and if there is nothing, what do you think about it? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] spam protection for web2py sites
Hello, What do you recommend and/or what is available for spam protection of blog comments forms in web2py-based sites? I know there is Recaptcha, but wonder about stuff like Akismet/Tyepad/Mollon/... ? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: what is web2py equivalent of django's reusable app
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 05:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Ross Peoples ross.peop...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know anything about Django's reusable apps. I assume it means that you can package an application up and give it to someone as a plugin or appliance or something similar. A reusable Django app, is an app that is easily plugged into a project, providing a very specific piece of functionality. They should be focused and follow the Unix philosophy of Do one thing and do it well. (from http://ericholscher.com/projects/django-conventions/app/) If that's the case, then web2py already provides this. You can package apps and plugins into w2p files for distribution from the admin interface. I know about that, but wonder whether reusable app in web2py dictionary means app, plugin component or something in between? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: web2py-piwik
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Not has good but we had these: http://web2py.com/appliances/default/show/27 http://web2py.com/appliances/default/show/14 could use some work... Well, I thought about web2py-piwiki which would integrate Piwik in the appadmin's dashboard so that one just connects web2py site with his/her Piwik installation by providing key token and siteID. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: adopt an app!
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: There are many old applications in http://web2py.com/appliances some are current, come are old, some are crap. I encourage users to adopt an app: This is great idea!!! - pick one - download it and try it - determine if it is crap and if it is let me know, I will delete it! May I suggest to maybe use bug tracker and create issues when one adopts some app before is it re-submitted? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: what is web2py equivalent of django's reusable app
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: One web2py installation can contain many apps (what web2py calls an app is what django calls a project) and different apps share nothing by default. A reusable subset of a web2py app is what we call a web2py plugin. (loosely speaking a web2py plugin is a Django reusable app). That's helpful. Thank you. The difference is not just in the terminology. In one web2py instance you can run as many apps as you like even if they contain different conflicting version of the same modules. In Django you need distinct projects, i.e.distinct instances. Heh, it seems that I've had good smell to choose one over another. :-) Web2py plugins are less structured than Django reusable apps. It is a relatively new concept and there is not many of them. i When we're on this topic...can we say that component is something like (custom) content-type which can be put on the page and one can use several of such (content-type) blocks on one page? Some CMS-es are fond of inline-editing feature where one can move those blocks around, edit them etc. Personally, I do not find it is required to have it Sincerely, Gour For example Django+Pinax is loosely equivalent to web2py+plugin_wiki. I had expected lot from that project, but it looks it is not advancing very rapidly as it was planned. Pinax talk was long ago... Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: adopt an app!
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: yes. I think the adopter should submit the app on google code which does provide bug tracking. I was thinking to open issue at google code to track progress of adopted app until the 'appliances' page is cleared a bit which will greatly improve web2py itself. Otherwise, I hope one is free to use other public hostings (launchpad, google, SF, github, bitbucket) according to one's preferences? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: what is web2py equivalent of django's reusable app
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Some plugins define components (plugin_wiki does) and some do not. Interesting... A component is a set of models/views/controller designed to work together. For example consider a web2py file controllers/plugin_calculator.py which contains def adder(): form = SQLFORM.factory(Field('a','integer'),Field('b','integer')) c = (form.vars.a+form.vars.b) if form.accepts(request) else '...' return DIV(form,'result=',c) The file is the plugin. The function is the component. It is a component because anywhere in your app you can do: {{=LOAD('plugin_calculator','adder',ajax=True)}} and embed the component into any page. Thanks a lot for illustration. Typically components are more complex but are used and packaged in the same way. Ahh...I believe I got it..There are Component plugins' are plugins that define components. and that makes difference between 'just plugin'. I'm anxious to see new version of paper book to buy it asap!! Web2py is so well-designed that I'm really impressed. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: adopt an app!
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 07:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Good idea. Would you like to open the issue? Else I can do it. I can do it...but do you think about one issue for all or one issue per app? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: what is web2py equivalent of django's reusable app
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:00:30 -0500 Furqan Rauf sfar.fur...@gmail.com wrote: make much more sense, just to say in my word web2py is a house that may have many windows and each window can be packaged into smaller components like window glass, lock and frame etc? Why don't you start with rooms instead? ;) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: adopt an app!
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 08:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: One for all. I do not expect too many responses. OK. I've created issue: http://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/detail?id=373 Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Deployment Confusion
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 02:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Marcel Luethi marcel.lue...@mlsystems.ch wrote: Hello Marcel, As a current customer of djangohosting.ch I'm interested to know how you did the web2py setup. I haven't yet...probably in a few days. However, it should be pretty same as with Django+uwsgi setup, iow, create local port for e.g. uwsgi server if you want to use it and then launch uwsgi server with appropriate conf file. I did use --protocol=http so there is no need to run your own local (lighty) webserver, but speak directly to nginx. I also found and adapted uwsgi init script and can email you if you like. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Deployment Confusion
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:46:02 -0200 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: AS I said,I know only two host options where you can simply put the files there and everything runs without the need of configuration. ['Google App Engine', 'webfaction'] I use djangohosting.ch (djangoeurope.com) for PHP sites, but soon, I hope so, I'll move to web2py. Let me add that before that I was not able to use my own Cherokee webserver Under webfaction and can recommend djanghosting.ch which is very flexible...especially for users in Europe. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] deploying few web2py sites
Hello, I believe that we'll settle on Web2py (over Django) for our future web needs (moving from PHP to Python) and I'm not 100% clear how does deployment with Web2Py go...iow, does one install one instance of web2py and install specific app for each site, e.g. {app1,app2,app3} or it is required to e.g. install 3 different instances of web2py each having app{1,2,3} installed? Considering that for running django on our host provider, we can use uwsgi in emperor mode to speak with nginx (running as reverse proxy), we wonder what would be setup to run several web2py sites? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] plugin_wiki PowerPack
Hello! I saw on devel list that the author is working on new PowerPack version and wonder what is the relationship between plugin_wiki PowerPack? Are they supposed to complement each other, make one obsolete or redundant? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: deploying few web2py sites
On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:56:45 +0300 Kenneth Lundström kenneth.t.lundst...@gmail.com wrote: I think the usual way is to have one instance of web2py installed and every application is in it's own folder in the applications folder. Good. If you want to have a own domain name or sub domain name for each application you use routes.py to specifie what domain name belongs to which application. Thanks...I haven't encountered routes.py so far. :-) With one instance of web2py you only need to update one instance. One problem is that you can't test a new version with a new version before using it on all applications. I have two instances, a development and a evaluation/testing instance that can run different versions of web2py. That's useful info. Thank you. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: deploying few web2py sites
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 11:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: You can install one web2py and have as many apps under it as you like. By default they have separate dbs and separate appadmins. They will have one admin. Did I tell you that web2py is great!!! I never run more than one web2py instance on the same machine. I do not see any reason for it. For example http://web2py.com http://web2py.com/book http://web2py.com/appliances http://web2py.com/AlterEgo http://web2py.com/plugins http://web2py.com/layouts http://experts4solutions.com http://fermiqcd.net ... and ~10 more. Wonderful. They all run off the same web2py instance under apache. I've to save some MBs of RAM on my shared hosting. Not sure about uwsgi in emperor mode. I never tried. OK. I'll research about it. There are web2py examples here: http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/wiki/Example Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: plugin_wiki PowerPack
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 11:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: No but there should be. :-( Let's hope there will be. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: [w2py-dev] Someone interested in a simple CMS for web2py? - SimplrCMS
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:27:57 -0300 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: As a goal I want to create a database (cached) based, configurable system, where has: *Pages * *Blocks (custom and distributed)* *Customized templates* *Blog system* *Auth permissions* Cool...We'd need simple e-commerce on top of that. I already have real website running, and I am testing it Live Front End: (templates are customized) - http://www.miaudota.com.br/miaudota (this is not a demo) Looks nice. which already has dusqus integration: http://www.miaudota.com.br/miaudota/default/index/blog/post/geral-teste Is it possible to have non-disqus threaded comments? Just want to know what do you thing about? can someone contribute? suggestions? I'm still deciding whether to use web2py or Django and asked question about it at SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6951947/cmsbloge-commerce-django-or-web2py where you can see list of desired features we would like to have. In any case, your project looks very interesting... Otoh, without trying I cannot provide any suggestion and before deciding to use web2py we cannot contribute as well. :-) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: bg-bg.py (Bulgarian translation)
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:53:24 -0700 (PDT) mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Please email to me as an attachment. Thanks. If I'd like to provide translation of web2py into my native language, what is the recommended procedure to contribute? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] plugin_wiki fails - missing ABOUT file
Hiya, I've tried to install plugin_wiki on web2py-1.98.2, but it fails: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/home/gour/www/web2py/gluon/restricted.py, line 192, in restricted exec ccode in environment File /usr/home/gour/www/web2py/applications/admin/controllers/default.py, line 1224, in module File /usr/home/gour/www/web2py/gluon/globals.py, line 145, in lambda self._caller = lambda f: f() File /usr/home/gour/www/web2py/applications/admin/controllers/default.py, line 659, in about about = safe_read(apath('%s/ABOUT' % app, r=request)) File /usr/home/gour/www/web2py/applications/admin/controllers/default.py, line 29, in safe_read safe_file = safe_open(a, b) File /usr/home/gour/www/web2py/applications/admin/controllers/default.py, line 26, in safe_open return open(a,b) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/home/gour/www/web2py/applications/plugin_wiki/ABOUT' Is the app properly packaged or something else is the reason to fail? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: bg-bg.py (Bulgarian translation)
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Gour, create the translation file using admin and email it to me. OK. Thanks for the info. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: plugin_wiki fails - missing ABOUT file
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the path of the error. Something is wrong. I suspect you installed the plugin as an application. Ahh...you're right. Excuse me for the noise - childhood illnesses. :-( Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Trouble with components
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:24:54 -0700 (PDT) G glenn.calt...@gmail.com wrote: As it is, the web2py book seems to assume a lot of familiarity with creating web applications and less familiarity with Python. I imagine several people like me are in the opposite situation. At the moment I'm on the verge of learning bout both web development and GUI (py+qt), and although I skimmed thropugh Django book, I really prefer web2py's style and (hope) to undestand more about the subject. However, I assume, it mostly has to do with web2py's design itself and now I'm waiting for a new book to appear 'cause I like holding books in my hands and learning in that way. The only problem I have with web2py so far, is not getting reply to my query...hopefully there will be some answer at SO. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Do we need a Web2py micro-framework , or split web2py into multiple components ?
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:46:01 -0700 (PDT) guruyaya guruy...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say, the one thing I like about web2py, is the battaries included approch of django, taken to it's max. The only thing you need after downloading web2py exe, is a browser. Creating separate components, does not work for me, as I don't see myself taking any part of web2py to any other app, except dal (which I can do now). Still evaluating web2py, but let me add: +1 Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: web2py for freelance work
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 22:49:16 -0700 (PDT) guruyaya guruy...@gmail.com wrote: Now I acctually asked people on my interviews, why PHP, and the most common answer was we have wordpress / zend-cart / joomla / drupal / some other system written in PHP we need extending, and we're looking for someone that will extend it. I'm in a similar boat...using PHP CMS-es (SilverStripe, Concrete5), wanting to extend it, tweak it, but would prefer Python instead of PHP. btw, is there some cart/shop app for web2py? This is acctually the most problematic aspect of web2py. Instant press is awsome. It still not wordpress. [...] Point is, there is one great advantage to PHP, over any other language: the things people did with it allready. As much as I love web2py, I could not tell someone to install kPax, instead of wordpress, to create a small company website. Now, I'm determined to move my site from PHP to Python and the dilemma is whether to use Django (for which I found some decent apps like Django-CMS + Zinnia blog + Django-Shop or Mezzanine CMS/blog + Cartridge shop) or web2Py which looks very nice, more simple (which I appreciate very much). Otoh, I'm confused reading that adoption of web2py is increasing, but end-user apps like kPax seems to ber quite old? Why is it so? I'm 'freelancer' in the sense that I need to work on our own (small company) site, private site, non-profit-org site, as well as some sites of relatives friends and wonder if there are decent {CMS, blog, ecommerce} apps in web2py world which can be easily tied together and used for small-medium-sized sites or web2py is mostly used for intranet apps or some other usages? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: For Massimo: which version of book to buy?
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly by the end of August. Thanks for the info. Same publisher? Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] CMS+blog+shop for web2py
Hello! I'd like to replace few of my PHP sites sites with Python technology in order to be able to tweak them according to our needs and we prefer Python for PHP. Basically, my needs are to have decent CMS+blog+shop which can be tweaked easily and, so far, I was looking at Django along with two possibilities: 1) Django-CMS + Zinnia blog engine + django-shop and 2) Mezzanine + Cartridge shop. Both have enough features for our needs and we hope they're extensible enough so that we can plumb some other django apps, customize the combo and we'd have to write custom payment (form-based) module for one of the above shops. Now, I've heard some nice stories about Web2Py and wonder if it fits in the same league of frameworks as Django and if there are some CMS+blog+shop apps written for it which are ready to use and tweak instead of writing everything from the scratch? Or is it better to use Django considering there are more ready/mature apps available? I'm ready to learn the framework, but I simply do not have time to develop maintain all the required components, but prefer using available ('reusable') apps and combine 'em to get final sites (we need few of them). Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature