from:"chuck"

Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour
 away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to use
 her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP or
 service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
 laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
 stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
 this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
 Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
 another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
 business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
 not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
 area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
 they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
 their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
 re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on

 thanks
 heith

  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
 *To:* he...@mncomm.com
 *Subject:* FW:


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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57429650-85/verizons-homefusion-now-brings-4g-lte-home-but-not-for-cheap/

Regards,
Chuck

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour
away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to use
her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP or
service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on

thanks
heith

*From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
*To:* he...@mncomm.com
*Subject:* FW:

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

FYI, we tell them we'd like to leave our equipment for 30-45 days so that
they can get a taste of their Verizon bill.  Typically we get the call, My
bill was $120+ this month, can I get your service turned back on?

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Just because it's available to them doesn't mean they're aware of it.  I'm
 almost certain people don't check before switching to 4G.  They see it's 50
 mbps and faster than your WISP's 5 or 10 mbps and then get stuck in a
 contract for 2 years.  I put it on the bill so they see it every time they
 click on their invoice.

 I should mention most customers are automatically billed, so while they do
 get their bill via email, they may choose to simply ignore it.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:42 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

   Are others doing this on their billing as well? I don't think I am
 going to have a big issue with Verizon. Fortunately our new billing system,
 I think, will show their usage, even though we do not offer capped
 services. They can always look at their portal, but a lot of people still
 are insistent on calling the office to say charge my card as opposed to
 going online and hitting pay now. I guess you have to hit them in the
 face with it some time.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:13 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

  Oh that's the first time you've seen it?  Ya, kinda odd looking for
 sure.  It's one of the reasons I started including customers' bandwidth
 usage on the bill.  They see they've done 20 or 30 gigs (at least) and then
 when they see HomeFusion is 5-10 gigs plus a kidney to get all the way up
 to 20, they don't bother (this is speculation on my part).

 My guess is that they've got several higher gain sectors instead of one
 omni.  Also I think the reason it is coax is to get power and figure out
 which one of the sectors gets the best signal.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:09 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

   Looks like a friggin dryer vent to me. I have not seen this before,
 that's my confusion. Its alien to me. Usually I have smarter customers that
 ask me how much data they are doing. Other dump me, then get an outrageous
 bill from Verizon when they watched 15 movies on the Netflix and realize I
 am not that bad. We recently installed a 450 pointed right at this
 neighborhood and are running tests with a banker customer. Looking real
 good, and I am ready to pump out more speed to these customers

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:46 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

   Looks like a 4G cantenna to me.  What's the confusion?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.comwrote:

   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an
 hour away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to
 use her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP
 or service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
 laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
 stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
 this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
 Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
 another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
 business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
 not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
 area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
 they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
 their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
 re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on

 thanks
 heith

  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
 *To:* he...@mncomm.com
 *Subject:* FW:


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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

Not my problem lol.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 How do they get out of the contact?  ETF?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Feb 23, 2014 8:57 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 FYI, we tell them we'd like to leave our equipment for 30-45 days so that
 they can get a taste of their Verizon bill.  Typically we get the call, My
 bill was $120+ this month, can I get your service turned back on?

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Just because it's available to them doesn't mean they're aware of it.
  I'm almost certain people don't check before switching to 4G.  They see
 it's 50 mbps and faster than your WISP's 5 or 10 mbps and then get stuck in
 a contract for 2 years.  I put it on the bill so they see it every time
 they click on their invoice.

 I should mention most customers are automatically billed, so while they
 do get their bill via email, they may choose to simply ignore it.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:42 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.comwrote:

   Are others doing this on their billing as well? I don't think I am
 going to have a big issue with Verizon. Fortunately our new billing system,
 I think, will show their usage, even though we do not offer capped
 services. They can always look at their portal, but a lot of people still
 are insistent on calling the office to say charge my card as opposed to
 going online and hitting pay now. I guess you have to hit them in the
 face with it some time.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:13 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

  Oh that's the first time you've seen it?  Ya, kinda odd looking for
 sure.  It's one of the reasons I started including customers' bandwidth
 usage on the bill.  They see they've done 20 or 30 gigs (at least) and then
 when they see HomeFusion is 5-10 gigs plus a kidney to get all the way up
 to 20, they don't bother (this is speculation on my part).

 My guess is that they've got several higher gain sectors instead of one
 omni.  Also I think the reason it is coax is to get power and figure out
 which one of the sectors gets the best signal.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:09 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.comwrote:

   Looks like a friggin dryer vent to me. I have not seen this before,
 that's my confusion. Its alien to me. Usually I have smarter customers 
 that
 ask me how much data they are doing. Other dump me, then get an outrageous
 bill from Verizon when they watched 15 movies on the Netflix and realize I
 am not that bad. We recently installed a 450 pointed right at this
 neighborhood and are running tests with a banker customer. Looking real
 good, and I am ready to pump out more speed to these customers

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:46 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

   Looks like a 4G cantenna to me.  What's the confusion?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.comwrote:

   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an
 hour away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going 
 to
 use her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only 
 WISP
 or service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment 
 was
 laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
 stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech 
 took
 this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
 Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
 another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
 business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT 
 would
 not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
 area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of 
 what
 they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
 their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device 
 to
 re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on

 thanks
 heith

  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
 *To:* he...@mncomm.com
 *Subject:* FW:


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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-12 Thread Chuck Hogg

Yea, but the power levels of some are not likely usable in an outdoor WISP
environment.
A good explanation is at Wikipedia strange enough...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII

People running equipment in frequencies at a power level higher than
intended is the issue.  Also, the 5470-5725 band requires DFS.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 5265-5320
 5500-5580
 5660-5700
 5735-5840

 Are these not USA channels?
 If am wrong let  me know and I will change them.


 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


 Forrest...what is your offlist email ?

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
 Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM


 I'm going to agree with others...

 Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
 like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
 about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
 than to exceed the limits.

 I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they
 should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My
 experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific
 tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed
 over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf
 than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.

 Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all
 either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator
 like you are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the
 FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the
 rules.  Which makes us a bit grumpy.

 I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better
 understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your
 operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd
 drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.

 In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you
 reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
 On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess
 with it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
 5170-5875.

 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
 wisps and consumers.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-12 Thread Chuck Hogg

I said not likely :)

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 What are you guys talking about?  A 30dB dish with a 0dB radio on it will
 easily go 4-5 miles.   Or put a 34dB dish on with a -4dB radio if you want
 more gain.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 12, 2014, at 17:56, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:

 On 2/12/2014 5:23 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

 Yea, but the power levels of some are not likely usable in an outdoor WISP
 environment.
 A good explanation is at Wikipedia strange enough...

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII

  People running equipment in frequencies at a power level higher than
 intended is the issue.  Also, the 5470-5725 band requires DFS.


 Actually, so does 5.25-5.35, as of 2004 or so.  It didn't originally, but
 when they added the 5.47-5.725 band, which needs DFS, they added the
 requirement to the original U-NII-2A band.  So

 15.407(h)(2) Radar Detection Function of Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS).
U-NII devices operating in the 5.25-5.35 GHz and 5 
 http://www.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2013/5/47-5/section.pdf.47-5 
 http://sujan.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2013/5/47-5/index.php.725 GHz 
 bands
shall employ a DFS radar detection mechanism to detect the presence of
radar systems and to avoid co-channel operation with radar systems.


 The power level down there is adequate for some applications, like
 half-mile links.  Lots of old Motorola PTP-400s are legally pumping +5 to
 +9 dBm into panels... one urban path is working over 2 miles, though we're
 replacing it.


 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 5265-5320
 5500-5580
 5660-5700
 5735-5840

  Are these not USA channels?
 If am wrong let  me know and I will change them.


 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


 Forrest...what is your offlist email ?

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
 Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM


 I'm going to agree with others...

 Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
 like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
 about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
 than to exceed the limits.

 I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they
 should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My
 experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific
 tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed
 over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf
 than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.

 Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all
 either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator
 like you are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the
 FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the
 rules.  Which makes us a bit grumpy.

 I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better
 understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your
 operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd
 drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.

 In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you
 reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
 On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out
 of these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for
 about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 -
 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess
 with it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
 5170-5875.

 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
 wisps and consumers.

  --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Chuck Hogg

People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
band.  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
webinar about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
allowed any longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are
not running your equipment inappropriately.

Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the
process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.

 Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you
 just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running
 illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on.

 Please pack up and go home.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
 it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
 5170-5875.

 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
 wisps and consumers.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread Chuck Hogg

*Revision of Part 15 of the Commission's Rules to Permit Unlicensed
National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) Devices in the 5 GHz band, ET
Docket No. 13-49.*

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try
 to discern public information from internal information.




 -
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 http://www.ics-il.com

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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
 frequencies?


 Chuck,
 Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
 discussing?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
 configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
 band.  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
 webinar about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
 allowed any longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are
 not running your equipment inappropriately.

 Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the
 process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.

 Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you
 just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running
 illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on.

 Please pack up and go home.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
 these frequencies.
 Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
 platform.
 First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
 Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
 Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
 it.
 Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
 Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
 5170-5875.

 Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
 money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
 wisps and consumers.

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Re: [WISPA] Marketing idea

2013-12-01 Thread Chuck Hogg

AFAIK, it's illegal in every state to have an online raffle that is fee
based.  Certain NFP's can get a permit for an online raffle based on state
laws.

You can see your laws for Mississippi here:
http://www.msgamingcommission.com/ or
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/Mississippi/

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:

  Be sure to check your state's lattery/raffle laws.  They vary a lot, but
 many have restrictions about how players can get tickets, etc.


 On 12/1/2013 12:03 PM, Joe Miller wrote:

  Thinking about how to get my company name out there more in our area…



 A thought that I came up with was a raffle… Raffle off a 2002 KZ C800,
 (see attached) at $5.00 a ticket. Someone will own this for $5.00. but
 instead of the conventional way of the actual paper ticket, come up with
 something that is web based where they can buy tickets through a web page.
 I haven’t got the details on how to do this yet, but looking for ideas. Say
 start on 1/1/14 and have the drawing on the 4th of July or something like
 that.



 Someone owed me money for a job, and this is how I got paid. the
 motorcycle is company owned, and it runs very well.



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Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

How would you power it on fiber?

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  Anyideas on the cost? It would be a great addition to any aerial fiber
 built out



 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Zach Mann
 *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2013 10:30 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.



 It's not just Comcast, TW, Cox are also taking advantage of the simplicity
 of the newer 7781-CM Access Point.   They are offering free wifi to
 existing clients for retention.  Down the road cellular offloading
 802.11u



 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 wrote:

 That's one way to avoid pole attachment fees! LOL.

 What is Comcast trying to accomplish with these?


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312


 On 11/15/13, 9:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
  He's talking about these... (see attached)
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo

  sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
 
  I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
  the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through
  the city on every corner  clear LOS to every tower around.
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 

 
 
  *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
  mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
  *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
  *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

 
  One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
  free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
  indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
  source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
  laws of physics work in your favor.
 
  Thank You,
 
  Brian Webster
 

  www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
 
  www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com
 
  *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
  *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
  *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
  mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

 
  Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
  we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
  me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
  there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios
  (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
  its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
  the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we always
 do.
 
  I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
  will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
  compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
  drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
  knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to
 them
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  855-FLSPEED x102
 

 
 
 
  *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
  mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
  *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
  *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
  sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com,
  WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 
  *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

 
  Are you seeing any impact from them?
 
 
  On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo

  sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
 wrote:
 
  Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
  corner.  Already seeing that in our areas  do a wireless
  scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
  (they run dual band APs now).
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  855-FLSPEED x102

Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

And then you have this...
http://www.aglmediagroup.com/joint-use-power-poles-raise-safety-issues/

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use
 the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast.

 This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only spectrum...
 with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a WISP.


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote:
  Spectrum trashers   At least if there's no traffic on them there
  shouldn't be much noise..
 
  On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
  He's talking about these... (see attached)
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
  sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
 
   I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
   the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing
 through
   the city on every corner  clear LOS to every tower around.
 
   Scott Carullo
   Technical Operations
   855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
  
   *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
   mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
   *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
   *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
   One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
   free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
   indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
   source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
   laws of physics work in your favor.
 
 
 
   Thank You,
 
   Brian Webster
 
   www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
 
   www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com
 
 
 
   *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
   *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
   *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
   mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
   *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
 
 
   Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
   we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
   me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
   there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some
 radios
   (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
   its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
   the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we
 always do.
 
   I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
   will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
   compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
   drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
   knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to
 them
 
   Scott Carullo
   Technical Operations
   855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
  
 
   *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
   mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
   *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
   *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
 
   sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com,
   WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:
 wireless@wispa.org
   *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
   Are you seeing any impact from them?
 
 
   On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo
   sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
 wrote:
 
   Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
   corner.  Already seeing that in our areas  do a wireless
   scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
   (they run dual band APs now).
 
   Scott Carullo
   Technical Operations
   855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
  
 
   *From*: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
   mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com
   *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM
   *To*: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC

Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
the ethernet from failing.

We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.

We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work.
 Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it,
otherwise it makes it a mess.

There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
phone lines for years.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
 Thanx
 NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on
eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place
has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld
http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld*
Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin is...

Remember, a little dab will do ya.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

  Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N
 connectors.

 Starting to see some water ingress on old, 5year, weather proofed N
 connections.

 --


 On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

 We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
 weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
 the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
 the ethernet from failing.

  We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
 fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.

  We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower
 work.  Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on
 it, otherwise it makes it a mess.

  There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
 phone lines for years.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
 Thanx
 NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

We've been doing it this way for 6-7 years.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on
 eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place
 has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld
 http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld*
 Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin is...

 Remember, a little dab will do ya.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

  Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N
 connectors.

 Starting to see some water ingress on old, 5year, weather proofed N
 connections.

 --


 On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

 We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or
 bad weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water
 in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it
 prevented the ethernet from failing.

  We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
 fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.

  We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower
 work.  Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on
 it, otherwise it makes it a mess.

  There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
 phone lines for years.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
 Thanx
 NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

I linked it previously, it's the Boss brand.
*http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld*

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 What brand do you use and where do you source it?


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 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease


 We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
 weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
 the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
 the ethernet from failing.

 We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
 fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.

 We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower
 work.  Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on
 it, otherwise it makes it a mess.

 There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
 phone lines for years.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
 Thanx
 NGL

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Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

2013-10-28 Thread Chuck Hogg

Just when you want to be able to turn on the breaks!

Regards,
Chuck


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cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matt Hoppes 
 mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might have lasted
 longer. :P

 Yikes!

 On Oct 28, 2013, at 14:54, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:

  Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get over 100MPH
  but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not today.  Caught
  the destruction on our airCam this morning.
 
  http://youtu.be/4KvxGpwBj1w
 
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Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

2013-10-28 Thread Chuck Hogg

We had one that was supposed to turn on the brakes as well, and it didn't
fare so well either.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:

  The turbine has automatic braking - but it's not enough...


 On 10/28/2013 1:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

 Just when you want to be able to turn on the breaks!

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Clay Stewart 
 cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matt Hoppes 
 mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might have lasted
 longer. :P

 Yikes!

 On Oct 28, 2013, at 14:54, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:

  Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get over 100MPH
  but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not today.  Caught
  the destruction on our airCam this morning.
 
  http://youtu.be/4KvxGpwBj1w
 
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Re: [WISPA] tablet customer sign off thing

2013-10-23 Thread Chuck Hogg

I've been doing this for years on our system...it's custom built but
integrates into Platypus.  Essentially, the customer fills out the
information for their contract, signs, then it asks if they would like a
copy sent to their email account.  Then in their Platypus account it is
added as a document in their profile.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 Funny, we were just talking about this today.  During sign-up we were
 going to give customers a website to go to where they can electronically
 sign the contract and then we file that away.  We're trying to reduce
 paperwork as much as possible.


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 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 10/22/13 3:26 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
  Love to hear about this as well. We are currently using paper. We send
  the document to the customer over email and then the tech has a
  signature page that they sign. Our lawyer, says they should sign it and
  we should retain it.
 
  Martha
  signature
 
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  202-546-5898
 
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  Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
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  On 10/22/2013 2:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
  I forgot to ask in Vegas last week. We have a new customer policy
  being built. We will be enforcing it on new customers. It will be on
  our website. I do, however, want customers to sign not just review
  something but I don’t want to have paper. I see there are some doc or
  proposal aps for Ipad and other tablets. I was curious what, if any,
  others were using, and what kind of experience people were having. My
  concerns would be that we would need to store these to a different
  system, which is not a real big deal. Anyways, anything to get away
  from using paper. I assume that the same could be used for signing off
  on installs, service calls, site checks and other purposes.
  thanks
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] ATT Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected markets

2013-07-29 Thread Chuck Hogg

It's already been happening here...

Regards,
Chuck


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  ATT Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected
 markets 

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 http://ow.ly/nrnQ0

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Re: [WISPA] Advertising IP space for Business Customers

2013-07-16 Thread Chuck Hogg

It's just a slightly different configuration and usually carriers either
don't charge or charge something minimal like $50/mth or a setup fee.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Bobby Burrow brbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 What is the general consensus in regards to advertising AS number space
 for business/non-profit client that has their own allocation of space
 from ARIN? Let's say the customer has service from you as a backup and
 wants to transition to you as a primary and continue to use their own IP
 space.

 I am looking in to the feasibility of meeting this request and what, if
 any, fees to quote to the customer. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ Frequency Range

2013-07-16 Thread Chuck Hogg

Their product announcement is 900Mhz.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.netwrote:

 Wouldn't the fact that 2.5GHz is licensed minimize the chance that there
 would be outside interference?  I don't know, I'm asking.

 Jeff
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote:

  ·Low susceptibility to Interference – due to GPS synchronization
 
  How do they figure this?
 
  I think it should be Low susceptibility due to SELF interference.
 
  900 in my area, California Central Valley east of the Bay Area, is almost
  useless for 900 as the power companies have put in smart meters
 
  Tim
  CV-Access, Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Hoppes
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:53 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products
  900MHZ Frequency Range
 
  Just got this today:
 
  This sounds interesting anyone have any thoughts?  900MHz always
  gets the propagation advertisement, but my experience has been that
  while it propagates better, the gain limitations and size of reasonable
  antennas make it unusable.
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ
  Frequency Range
  Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:16:18 +0300
  From: Asa Yanai a...@runcom.com
  To: undisclosed-recipients:;
 
 
 
 
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  Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products:
 
  v*New 4G/WIMAX  Solution at 900MHZ Frequency Range *
 
  *Combines long Range , High Capacity and low susceptibility to
  Interference *
 
  ·Long Range - due to 900MHz propagation
 
  ·Non Line of Sight – due to 900MHZ propagation and OFDMA technology
  (unique to 4G)
 
  ·High Capacity – due to 4G/WIMAX  high spectral efficiency (4
  bits/sec/Hz) and MIMO utilization
 
  ·Low susceptibility to Interference – due to GPS synchronization
 
  ·Base Stations and Outdoor CPE's available now
 
  v*New Enhanced WIMAX Base Station with Radius Interface. *
 
  ·IEEE.802.16e compliant
 
  ·Enables stand alone connection to the NOC without the need of ASN
 Gateway
 
  ·For additional features please refer to the attached  brochure
 
  For more information please contact :
 
  */Asa Yanai/*
 
  RUNCOM USA
 
  V.P Business Development  Marketing USA
 
  Cell: 917 848 3753
 
  Email: a...@runcom.com mailto:a...@runcom.com
 
  or
 
  */Israel Koffman/*
 
  VP Marketing and Sales
 
  USA Mobile Phone: 1-646-530-1502
 
  Skype: Israel.Koffman
 
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Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

2013-06-03 Thread Chuck Hogg

Curious, has anyone paid yet?

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 You can charge them to investigate these complaints.  We reply to the
 letters pointing them to our website with pricing for us to investigate.
 So far none of them have elected to pay us to find the offender.   Not like
 it’s hard for us because all of our users have public IPs.  

 ** **

 http://wifimw.com/civil.asp

 ** **

 ** **

 Jim

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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *~NGL~
 *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2013 2:00 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List

 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

 ** **

 I am trying to stop or hinder the copyright infringement problem.

 Anyone have a good answer?

 NGL

 *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@performantnetworks.com 

 *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2013 11:46 AM

 *To:* wireless@wispa.org 

 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents - Steve

 ** **

 I agree with Steve. There are tons of ways to obfuscate torrent traffic,
 and VPN/proxy services are gaining in popularity, which makes the traffic
 encrypted.

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Re: [WISPA] American Tower and US Post Office Roofs

2013-05-13 Thread Chuck Hogg

You'd be surprised what some of the high density cities are doing...

Regards,
Chuck


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 This is more a curiosity question than anything else.

 Does anyone know why American Tower seems to list all (or at least many)
 US Post Office Roofs as rental rooftops?

 At least around here the post offices are usually some of the smaller
 structures and I can't imagine anyone renting the roof space.
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Re: [WISPA] GA Aircraft Interrupting Microwaves?

2013-04-29 Thread Chuck Hogg

We have equipment at 2 airports, have not seen this.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 I've got a bizarre one here

 Has anyone else ever experienced a GA aircraft flying in front of a
 tower and breaking a microwave (in this case RADWin) path long enough to
 bring down the link for approximately 10 seconds?

 We have a tower that loses connectivity about once or twice a day for
 around 10 seconds, and all data points to it being some GA aircraft
 taking off from a local field and having a flight path that takes them
 right in the RF path of the microwave.

 Next calm day one of the local pilots is going to fly a few touch-n-goes
 for us to confirm the theory.

 Just curious if anyone else has ever encountered this?

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Re: [WISPA] Acros the border services

2013-02-11 Thread Chuck Hogg

I know of one health care company that does this, but apparently it is done
under the radar, meaning in a window of a building on both sides.  I
wouldn't have believed it until the CFO showed me pics of the PTP-600.

Regards,
Chuck


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 Hi everybody, 

 ** **

 I was asked by a bandwidth partner to see if anyone had any experience
 providing microwave shots that crossed from the US to Mexico, specifically,
 from Texas to Mexico.   Since we live nowhere near, this isn’t an issue
 that I have ever addressed or researched.  I am sure there are a whole host
 of potential issues.

 ** **

 Likely there are import / export regulations concerning the hardware,
 frequency use, licensing issues, etc etc.  If this is even possible and
 legal, they may be looking for someone’s help to build a microwave path
 that originates in the US with the other side being in Mexico.  

 ** **

 Is there anybody on the list providing services to both sides of the
 boarder or anybody with any experience that can say that it isn’t possible?
 

 ** **

 Thanks for your input.

 ** **

 Kevin Owen

 First Step Internet, LLC

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Re: [WISPA] KY show in April

2013-02-09 Thread Chuck Hogg

Also, when WISPA books a show, it is also reliant on how many nights are
booked to get a good conference room rate.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  You pay for convenience and comfort 

 Sent from my Motorola Startac...


 On Feb 9, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net
 wrote:

   That hotel is normally twice the WISPA rate...and it's virtually
 attached to the conference center.  I looked at Hotwire and couldn't find
 anything more reasonable nearby.  I suppose you could find something
 further out.

  Jeff

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:53 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

  I have no problem with the $498 I paid to WISPA for the conference.

 I have no problem with my yearly membership to WISPA.  I think it is worth
 every penny.

 I am also one of those who has no interest in Vegas and who pestered Rick
 for another Mid-West show like St. Louis.  (Thanks, Rick!!  And for the
 next non-Vegas conference, let's be thinking AL,AR,MS,OK,TN,TX.  After all,
 Vegas as anchor pretty much covers the west.)

 But,  I can't justify $126+tax for a room I'll be in 9-10 hours a day, and
 asleep most of that!  And that extra $250 is, well, $250.  I can think of a
 lot of things I'd rather spend $250 on than a room to sleep in.

 Maybe it is just a different way of looking at things.  When we go out on
 vacation, most of the time we are in Motel 6 or Super 8.  We drive and look
 at things and stop where ever things look interesting.

 Technically, this is work.  I'm less likely to spend more on a motel for
 work than for play!

 And I am not complaining... I was just looking to see if I was alone...
 Seems not.

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 Or you could look at the advantages of staying on location, supporting
 WISPA that went out of their way to get a location that would support the
 conference yet be affordable to the 500 mile radius that a majority of the
 WISPS are in. Or just accept that no matter what you do you can never
 satisfy everyone. Remember that any conference needs volume to get a
 reduced rate. Stay elsewhere and the numbers go down. Jmo.

 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Ya that's my usual plan :)

 There's actually a meta search site that aggregates them for me.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Feb 8, 2013 11:29 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

  Hotwire.com is your friend.

   From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, February 8, 2013 11:17 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] KY show in April

  Where was 50/night?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Feb 8, 2013 11:15 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:


 Many of us are cheap...that's why we're still here. :)


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Friday, February 08, 2013 9:51 PM
 *Subject:* [WISPA] KY show in April

  Is anyone else looking to save some cash by staying a mile or two away
 instead of right downtown?

 To me, $126 a nite +tax is a LOT for a motel room.

 Especially when I can find places within 4 miles for less than $50 a
 nite + tax.

 I can't believe that parking or a taxi will cost more than $75 a day...

 Maybe I'm just cheap, but the only time I've ever paid more than $69 a
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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

2013-02-05 Thread Chuck Hogg

?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.
 We've done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@att.net wrote:

 Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't
 a
 monopole?


 Regards,

 Jeff Broadwick
 Bitlomat Sales Director
 847-238-2481 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell


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 Behalf Of Greg Osborn
 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago




 http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
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 Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued
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Re: [WISPA] Details for WISPAmerica 2013

2013-01-07 Thread Chuck Hogg

Rick posted 4 days ago that it would be announced this week...I know they
are completing a lot of things in the background at this time.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Is this event planning complete?  I'm not finding an agenda/venue/etc.

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Re: [WISPA] Cell Company Tower Contacts

2013-01-07 Thread Chuck Hogg

So basically you are looking for Tower Lease Management.  Most big
companies, AT, GTP, etc. will do this...there are a couple of brokers as
well.

Regards,
Chuck


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 I am looking for contacts and/or places to submit towers with colo space
 to cell companies   i.e. if you have a location for a tower or a tower
 already and you would like to see if you can lease space on it to
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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

2012-12-27 Thread Chuck Hogg

I've not been dropped yet...but am wondering at this point how much longer
I want to continue with DN.  They are preparing to build out a competing
network...and they already advertise to my customer base the Satellite
Broadband options via Phone, Web, Mailing, and by TV commercial.  I know
DirecTV isn't much better, but they don't own the spectrum like DN does to
build something out.

Regards,
Chuck


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 We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
 approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
 month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
 requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.

 Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
 existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
 well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
 new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
 have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.

 I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

2012-12-27 Thread Chuck Hogg

Is anyone else worried that Google will also throw money into the bowl for
LTE with DN?  They have a good working relationship right now...

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Paul Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote:

 Yes, we average a little over 3 per month.

 Paul C Diem
 pcd...@foxvalley.net

 On 12/27/2012 3:19 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
  3 per month?
 
  Sent from my Motorola Startac...
 
 
  On Dec 27, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Paul Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote:
 
  We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
  approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
  month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
  requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.
 
  Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
  existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
  well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
  new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
  have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.
 
  I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
  else been dropped as a reseller by DISH?
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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

2012-12-27 Thread Chuck Hogg

LOL Doug...I know I was a big DN proponent for quite some time...but their
recent moves have left me with some food for thought.

I guess this is the whole reason we're planning FTTH...

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 This song comes to mind Chuck!
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST86JM1RPl0




  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 *Date:* 12/27/2012 2:30:37 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

 Is anyone else worried that Google will also throw money into the bowl for
 LTE with DN?  They have a good working relationship right now...

 Regards,
 Chuck


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 Yes, we average a little over 3 per month.

 Paul C Diem
 pcd...@foxvalley.net

 On 12/27/2012 3:19 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
  3 per month?
 
  Sent from my Motorola Startac...
 
 
  On Dec 27, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Paul Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote:
 
  We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
  approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
  month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
  requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.
 
  Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
  existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
  well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
  new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
  have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.
 
  I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

2012-11-13 Thread Chuck Hogg

2-3 weeks and the CCR will be available...other than that there are
plenty of x86 platforms or the 2011.

Regards,
Chuck


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 I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
 from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. 
 Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you 
 all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
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Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg

I have 3 SAF links...operating just fine.  I know of others that have a lot
of Trango links...operating just fine.  I don't think you could go wrong
with either one.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bill Gaylord wi...@torchlake.com wrote:

 Can anyone help me out?  We are in the process of deciding which company
 to use for 6 licensed links.  Both are similar in price/performance.
 Trango has more tx power and rx sensitivity, thus their antennas are
 smaller, which is a plus.  I would like to know if anyone has any
 experiences with either company and their products.  I met both in
 Vegas, but there is only so much real info you can get from
 Salespeople.  Please send any comments off list as not to pollute the
 list with opinions on products.  If anyone would like to also learn what
 I learn from the list, drop me an e-mail and I will be happy to forward
 the opinions I get on to you as well. Thank you.

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Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg

I've had to do an RMA with SAF due to a Lightning Event.  Unfortunately,
the radio has to go to Latvia for repairs.  The turn around was about 2
weeks.  I have also done an advanced replacement RMA that took 2 days.
 Now, we buy extra units instead of advanced replacement.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

 When I have priced them before, SAF was the same price as Trango with
 their standard power... but when you increase to High Power then it's
 more expensive.

 And SAF's 5 year warranty is very cool... the bigger question with this
 type of radio is how quickly can they repair/replace the unit? I just
 had water get into a Trango radio (due to improper installation), and I
 did a complete RMA process with Trango and had the radio back, fixed, in
 one week. That's from the day I submitted the request until I had the
 repaired radio back. :)

 Travis
 Microserv

 On 11/2/2012 8:15 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
  I don't understand, SAF has a standard power version and a high power
  version.  Cost difference isn't much.
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Re: [WISPA] Fixed Wireless Footprint on the National Broadband Map as of 12-2011

2012-10-30 Thread Chuck Hogg

Your Montana State Mapping Agency.

http://mtbroadband.org/index.php/about-the-project/how-was-this-data-collected/

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Christian Palecek
christ...@cybernet1.comwrote:

 Were do we submit this, we cover Ravalli County, MT.

 ** **

 Thanks,

 Christian

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Brian Webster

 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:19 PM
 *To:* memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Fixed Wireless Footprint on the National Broadband Map
 as of 12-2011

 ** **

 Here is a map image I created from the National Broadband Map Data current
 as of Round 5 (12-2011). This does not reflect the most current updates you
 would have submitted last month. The East Coast states are very
 underrepresented. Let’s see if we can make a push to change that. If you
 know WISP’s who are not participating with their state mapping agencies
 please encourage them to do so.

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 Thank You,

 Brian Webster

 www.wirelessmapping.com

 www.Broadband-Mapping.com

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Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?

2012-10-17 Thread Chuck Hogg

Paolo:

In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are
alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all.
 Google Checkout might be the best alternative.  I used to use AlertPay as
well, but it got bought out by Payza.  Then there's moneybookers that's on
it's way to being re-branded as Skrill.

Here's one thing I came to realize.  If you are willing to pay the $25-50
per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown
merchant account.  They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal
without the hassles.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

 Hi All

 I am looking for a new paypal like system for European merchants. The
 ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does
 not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway.

 I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I
 think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee

 Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I
 wanted to see if there could be an alternative

 Thank you

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Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Chuck Hogg

They already have the list...

ubnt_us...@wispa.org

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote:

 At the risk of starting a flame war, I think UBNT needs its own list for
 WISPA. I love the conversation in here, but it seems that more and more
 this is turning into UBNT crowd-sourced support. I may be alone on this,
 but seriously.

 /just sayin

 -drew

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo adal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Need help,
 I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply.
 Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it
 requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a
 DC to DC converter?

 Best regards,
 - - -
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Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

2012-10-12 Thread Chuck Hogg

http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, aajayi...@as-technologies.com wrote:

 How do I join?


 Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe
 +234(0)8023258027

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Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Hogg

Cisco has this functionality.  I would think if it were illegal, they would
be slapped pretty hard.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/ncs/1.0/configuration/guide/sol.html#wp1040128

Tagging and Containing Rogue Access Points

When the Cisco Unified Wireless Network Solution is monitored using NCS,
NCS generates the flags as rogue access point traps and displays the known
rogue access points by MAC address. The operator can then display a map
showing the location of the access points closest to each rogue access
point. The next step is to mark them as Known or Acknowledged rogue access
points (no further action), Alert rogue access points (watch for and notify
when active), or Contained rogue access points (have between one and four
access points discourage rogue access point clients by sending the clients
deauthenticate and disassociate messages whenever they associate with the
rogue access point).

Regards,
Chuck


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 As part of the WiFi standard a AP can tell a client to stop talking to it.
 Rogue AP containment systems impersonate the targeted AP and send these
 messages to observed clients.

 This kind of functionality is important in cases where you need to prevent
 employees from accidentally creating security breaches. Ie by plugging
 their cradlepoint into the network or not disabling the wifi in a time
 machine NAS.
 On Sep 23, 2012 10:29 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 If not with RF, how do you suppose that an AP would interfere with
 another AP? That is what the poster is asking about.

 I am curious on how you would crack a WEP key without using RF signal.
 What you are talking about is criminal and your right breaking into
 secure APs are not under the rules of Part-15.



  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 *Date:* 9/23/2012 5:53:20 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

 IANAL but, I am fairly sure P15 only applies to RF, not to the OSI
 layers. If the FCC does have control of the OSI layers from a P15 device
 then people doing WEP cracking and such are in violation of P15 and that
 really is a stretch.

 On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:
 If there is an AP that does that and it is operating in Part15, it
 would be directly in violation of the very rules that gave the device its
 right to exist!
 The major substance of Part-15 reads: This device complies with Part 15
 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1)
 this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must
 accept any interference received, including interference that may cause
 undesired operation.

 If the poster has actually seen an AP that does what he says it does then
 it would be in violation of Part 15 itself and thus an entity could lodge a
 formal complaint against the
 person or entity that was operating said AP and possibly end up with a
 $25,000.00 ticket.  YMMV




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  *From:* Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com
 *Date:* 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Can they really do this?

 There's a current debate raging right now on the NANOG list about the ins
 and outs of setting up large temporary networks for things like
 conventions.

 This one post caught my attention. Has anyone heard of a WiFi AP that
 will spoof neighboring networks to intentionally interfere with them, not
 by occupying/jamming the spectrum in a brute force way, but rather by
 impersonating the other network and rejecting new associations?

 The quote:

  One of which I forgot to mention. Many of the hotels (I believe all
  Hilton properties at this time) have sold the facilities space for their
  wifi network to another company. They CAN'T negotiate it with you,
  because they don't own it any more. And most of these wifi networks have
  stealth killers enabled, so that they spoof any other wifi zone they see
  and send back reject messages to the clients. So you can't run them side
  by side.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta.  It's even
stated as such on their forums...

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

 Hi all

 I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.

 Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and
 I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
 instead of other well knows products

  From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in the
 number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and instabilities.

 A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
 since years in my network?

 I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a new
 brand.

 Comments?


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

I must live on a different planet, but there are products that Ubiquiti has
failed on over the years and has EOL'd the product as a result.  Look at
GPS Sync in the RM5/RM2 product lines.  Look at ToughCable L1/L2.  Look at
LiteStations.  Wonder why they are EOL?  I give praise to UBNT when praise
is deserved.  Not before a product has even been put through it's paces.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

 Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or
 Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS of uptime. My
 main Cisco switch is moving over 1500Mbps of graphic daily and has been
 up for over 2+ years.

 We have had many Ubiquiti radios that if they have more than 100 days
 uptime, you have to reboot them BEFORE doing a firmware upgrade or else
 when they come back they won't pass traffic (even though they are
 connected via wireless).

 Travis
 Microserv

 On 9/14/2012 9:42 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
  Greg,
  I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
  from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
  are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
  had any problems with the final releases of software.
 
  I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
  routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
  their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
  hear from them again.
 
  Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
  rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
 
  No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
  working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
  Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
  been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.
 
  Matt Hoppes
  Director of Information Technology
  Indigo Wireless
  +1 (570) 723-7312
 
  On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
  Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
  bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless
 gear?
 
  Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps
  throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
  /and/ easy?
 
  It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
 
  Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only features
  relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth accounting
  etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a lot
  of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
  protocols come to mind).
 
  Greg
 
  On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
  paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it
 wrote:
 
   Hi all
 
   I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
 
   Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard
 market and
   I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti
 router
   instead of other well knows products
 
 From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only
 in the
   number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and
 instabilities.
 
   A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others
 working
   since years in my network?
 
   I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for
 a new
   brand.
 
   Comments?
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

The war started 5 years ago in Orlando when Mike Ford was removed from the
MUM and was told that MikroTik had no interest in a working relationship
with UBNT.  At that time UBNT was only focused on miniPCI radios and trying
to have an open/working relationship with MikroTik/StarOS.  I think after
that, Robert has looked at MikroTik in the same manner Apple looked at
Adobe.  At first they worked together. Once that tie was broken, they
looked at ways to not only compete, but how to truly create products that
are what the customers want without being clunky.  I praise UBNT for this
and they have made some really kick-ass products since then.  Putting their
router in the same class as even MikroTik at this time is a bit of a rush.
 Once the product line has matured, I'm sure they will be an option that is
definitely worth looking at and will compete with MikroTik, and they are
not far from it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote:

 At 9/14/2012 11:38 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 They are focusing on their core product (wireless).  The team there has
 not been taken to any other projects.  Rather, the income from the
 wireless has generated enough profits that they can hire NEW teams in
 order to be able to expand their product lines.
 
 And why not?  A router is a perfect fit.  So now we have:
 
 * Wireless Equipment
 * Switch that can power equipment
 * Router
 * Hotspot equipment
 * Hi-Cap Backhaul
 
 Really, Ubiquiti is staged to clean-up the WISP market.  They are a
 one-stop shop.  They make equipment and make equipment that works well.

 Another way to say it:  This is war, MikroTik is their enemy, and
 they've taken the gloves off!

 For a while there was detente between Califonia and Latvia.  MikroTik
 owned the router space, while Ubiquiti owned the packaged radio and
 antenna space.  Sure there was some overlap, but hybrid integrations
 like UbTik were natural.

 Then MikroTik underpriced UBNT with its SXT radios.  So now UBNT is
 fighting back big time.  The winner, of course, is the
 customer.  More bang, fewer bucks.

 MikroTik, of course, has not finished playing its cards.  CCR is
 going to be interesting, basd on the 36-core Tilera processor.  If
 they can keep RouterOS stable on that, then it will move into new markets.

 I am not concerned about the limits of software-based routing.  If I
 were Cisco, I'd be worried!  New processors have a lot of speed and
 I/O capability. There are some high end applications where hardware
 acceleration is needed, but that's a narrow, if lucrative,
 market.  As far as features are concerned, Linux has a pretty good
 set of capabilities already, and keeps accreting more into its GPL
 ecosystem.  The proprietary stuff is the polish, like the UI.

 I am not happy, for instance, with how RouterOS supports MEF Carrier
 Ethernet.  I don't think they've heard of it yet.  The raw pieces are
 probably there but assembling it onto an interface is a real
 puzzle.  Nor does it seem to be on UBNT's radar, though it's a huge
 market. Maybe they've noticed how cheap those switches are and just
 don't want to compete in that space.

 But it's not as if EdgeOS is being written from scratch.  Nor were
 AirOS or RouterOS.  They're all swimming in a GPL pool.  The trick is
 to integrate it and match it to the hardware.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

Let's take a look at the SR2.  It was poorly designed to have a rf switch
chip that changed between u.fl and mmcx connectors without any type of
surge suppression.  This caused the switch chip to get burned out due to
minimal ESD issues.  The XR2 was released and that component was removed
and a grounding strap was included with every card.  Did they learn from
their mistake and improve upon it? Yes. Kuddos!  But to say that it was
without issues is incorrect.  I've had NSM2's lock up, they connect to the
AP, get stuck at a 1/6 data rate and kill the performance of an AP.  Only
thing that fixes it was to kick the client NSM2 and reboot the device (if
you didn't reboot, it would recur in about 6 hours or so).  Was this fixed
in firmware ? Yes.  Again, Kuddos!

I would bet that you do have lock-ups, but don't notice them as an issue.
 Most of our customers power-cycle everything before calling in as standard
procedure.  That lockup could be unnoticed if that is the case.  It's not
that we're against you Matt, it's just that your statements begin to lack
credibility when they include I've never had one lock up in 2 years.
 I've been using UBNT devices for the past 6 years and can tell you that if
your case is really true, you are one lucky SOB!

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:

 Can you give some examples where you've had equipment lock up?  We have
 many units deployed in the field, on towers, customer sites.  The only
 time I've ever had a lockup was with the 5.3.x bug where after 30 days
 of uptime a change would cause a lockup.

 I've never had anything lock up by itself.  We even go so far as to tell
 our customers, if you ever have to power cycle your radio or (us
 supplied) router, call us because something is wrong.

 To date (two years) I've received 0 calls regarding this.


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 9/14/12 1:29 PM, Doug Clark wrote:
  Matt,  Have to disagree with you here.  UBNT equipment does not just
  run..
  It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to come
 back.
  If you want equipment that  JUST RUNS   and requires no baby sitting
  that equipment has a Cambium logo on it.
  You pay dearly for it and I have a significant amount in my network but
  I am not deploying it because the cost is too high and
  the bandwidth is too low.  UBNT equipment is very high maintainance and
  super hard to diagnosis what the problem is when you have one.
  With all that being said I am still currently only deploying UBNT and
  actually taking down Canopy FSK to replace it with UBNT 2X2
  ~Doug
  /---Original Message---/
  /*From:*/ Matt Hoppes mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
  /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM
  /*To:*/ WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
  Greg,
  I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
  from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
  are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
  had any problems with the final releases of software.
  I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
  routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
  their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
  hear from them again.
  Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
  rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
  No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
  working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
  Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
  been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.
  Matt Hoppes
  Director of Information Technology
  Indigo Wireless
  +1 (570) 723-7312
  On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless
 gear?
   
Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high
 pps
throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
/and/ easy?
   
It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
   
Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only
 features
relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth
 accounting
etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a
 lot
of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
protocols come to mind).
   
Greg
   
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it
  mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
   
Hi all
   
I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

That's who I use as well, always been happy.
Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 Ti RocketM5 and Regular RocketM5s.
 The Ti Rockets I can understand but not the regular RocketM5s.
 Maybe I am using the wrong source to purchase UBNT but I am sure they are
 the largest disto in the US.
 Streakwave.



  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com
 *Date:* 9/14/2012 12:50:15 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?

 Hi Doug,

 Which products are you having a hard time finding?

 Thanks,
 Ben

 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:
 The thing that amazes me is that they have a hit with their wireless
 gear and surveillance line. They can not even keep up with production on
 either line..
 Why UBNT is determined to sell everything under the sun is beyond me.




  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 *Date:* 9/14/2012 9:32:18 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org;
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?


 Hmm lately they (UBNT) seem like a sidewalk salesman selling anything from
 show cones to tennis shoes… IMHO they should focus on the core products **
 **

 ** **

 Its like the VC approach.. invest in 100 startups, 1 would be a hit

 ** **

 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
 *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 11:14 AM
 *To:* paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List

 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?

 ** **

 They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta.  It's even
 stated as such on their forums...


 Regards,
 Chuck

 

 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

 Hi all

 I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.

 Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and
 I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
 instead of other well knows products

  From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in the
 number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and instabilities.

 A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
 since years in my network?

 I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a new
 brand.

 Comments?


 --


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 Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

 C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
 Fax : +39-091-8772072
 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

Reset button?

Regards,
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, tcl t...@loosle.net wrote:

 Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

What model radio is this?

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony C. Loosle wl-t...@loosle.com wrote:

 I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was
 lost.

 t


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Re: [WISPA] Trango

On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

I confirmed this with the manual:
http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wl-t...@loosle.com wrote:

 5830AP



   Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
 What model radio is this?

 Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the 900's
with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a rubber
grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also covers the
LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to be the same
unit.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.

 I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

 Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
 default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

 I confirmed this with the manual:
 http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wl-t...@loosle.comwrote:

 5830AP



   Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
 What model radio is this?

 Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

Now I remember that same cover is covered by a little steel plate on the
5GHz...thus Victoria is correct in that you need a serial cable to connect
to it.  Per the manual it also states that and how to wire one if you don't
have it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the
 900's with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a
 rubber grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also
 covers the LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to
 be the same unit.

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.

 I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

 Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
 default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

 I confirmed this with the manual:
 http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wl-t...@loosle.comwrote:

 5830AP



   Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
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 Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] Invoice from FCC Interstate TRS Fund

2012-08-19 Thread Chuck Hogg

They are the new administrator

http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/trs.html/

Search their name.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 I've gotten a number of emails in the last few days from Rolka Loube
 Saltzer Assoc, t...@r-l-s-a.com which state As the Administrator of
 the Interstate Telecommunications Relay Service Fund (“TRS Fund”) I am
 writing to alert you that invoice 82925407121, with a balance of
 $32.03 issued to your organization by the TRS Fund Administrator on
 7/27/2012, is due by 5:00 PM EST on 8/24/2012. Please make your
 payment by this deadline.

 It continues to provide information on logging into their portal and
 making a payment.

 Is this legitimate or is it someone who pulled my info from the FCC
 somehow and is sending a bogus bill in hopes I'll just pay it? I have
 heard other WISP mention similar scams on the list. We did just start
 filing 477499 recently so maybe it's a legitimate expense I was
 unaware of?

 Thanks for your input,
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Re: [WISPA] State mapping agency access

2012-08-19 Thread Chuck Profito

Robert Kim,

CV- Access, Inc. (Central Valley) 209-988-7388

Apx.  rural coverage:  Hwy 205  South to Hwy 152,  I-5 and east to the other
side of the valley.  

 

Chuck Profito

209-988-7388

CV-Access, Inc.

www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  

Providing Broadband Internet Access to 

California's Rural Central Valley

 

 

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If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
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us immediately and delete the original.  Thank you.

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] State mapping agency access

 

Anything on Central California? That's a big chunk of real estate. Also,
it's important for me to get this updated for our internal records asap.
I've been bull dozed by those big 500 pounders before and it's just a blast!


 

Yes, i'm being sarcastic! =)


 

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Re: [WISPA] [Spam?] {Disarmed} Re: Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

2012-08-10 Thread Chuck Hogg

+1
Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 I am using Scottrade online...




  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* LaRoy McCann w...@dtisp.com
 *Date:* 8/10/2012 1:15:39 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Spam?] {Disarmed} Re: Ubiquity ... Stock Price ..
 News ...

 Don't yell to loud but do you guys use a local broker or one of the online
 places like etrade, scottrade, etc.?

 I'm sure it's something online but just wanted to ask.

 LaRoy

 On 8/10/2012 2:08 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 I’ve had a buy in all day at $7 hoping to catch a quick drop.  Might
 change that to $8 and see if it gets filled…

 ** **

 Agreed that I would find it surprising for UBNT to stay at these low
 numbers long term.

 ** **

 Brad

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Jahan Babadi
 *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 1:44 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

 ** **

 I loaded up at 8.71 today.  Monday is a 100 M stock repurchase should
 trigger a quick short sqeeze and or a gap retracement.  UBNT long term this
 is a gift.

  

 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Forbes Mercy 
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:

 It's down to $8.88!



 On 8/10/2012 7:04 AM, James Howard wrote:

 The lower the price, the more shares they can buy back with the $100M
 repurchase.  That will also flush out some of the whiny investors who don’t
 really have any faith in the company.

  

  

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton
 *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 8:11 AM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

  

 It will be interesting to watch today and Monday…that’s for sure!  They
 beat their earnings, warn about the effects of counterfeited product and
 announce they intend to take this opportunity to buy back $100M worth of
 shares.  

  

 Brad

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
 *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 3:54 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Cc:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

  

 Eh. I plan to reinvest heavily. The CEO is planning to purchase a ton of
 stock. Why wouldn't he want it to go low?


 On Aug 10, 2012, at 0:19, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net wrote:

 After hours had a low of $6.90

 http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/ubnt/after-hours

 There was a lot of transactions.



 On 8/9/2012 7:05 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Agreed.  I almost hit that $9ish range a week or so ago, but my order was
 just a bit too late.  My stake in UBNT is very small, but have been
 averaging down and it’s been entertaining at the very least to watch.
 Hoping to acquire a few more shares tomorrow if the price is right!

  

 Vegas or the stock market…almost the same entertainment “rush”…lol

  

 Brad

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:58 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

  

 If you still have faith in the company, now is a good time to buy down
 your cost basis.

 On 08/09/2012 05:44 PM, Doug Clark wrote: 

 Have you ever had 100,000 barrels of oil that you purchased at 110.00 per
 barrel that you are sitting on and then overnight

 the price per barrel drops to 75.00 per barrel?  ON SALE HUH??  ATT1
 

  

  

  

  

 *---Original Message---*

  

 *From:* Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com

 *Date:* 8/9/2012 4:45:42 PM

 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

  

 Sweet!  It's on sale... 

 On Aug 9, 2012 5:40 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 I just suddenly got very illATT2 

  

  

  

  

 *---Original Message---*

  

 *From:* Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net

 *Date:* 8/9/2012 4:31:54 PM

 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

 *Subject:* [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

  

 OUCH !

  

 Anyone following this stuff...

  

 http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/ubnt

  

 --

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 Snappy Internet  Telecom

 7266 SW 48 Street

 Miami, Fl 33155

 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

  

  

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Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

2012-08-03 Thread Chuck Hogg

All:

If the zip codes are in the database, I can do mileage calculations based
on the need.  I can calculate who/how many WISPs are providing coverage
within 25 miles of a certain zip code.  I can do this quickly and
efficiently if the database is updated and would even be able to respond to
the opportunity with Based on our current database, XX% of your requested
zip codes fall within 25 miles of a WISP.  This opportunity can turn into
some major cash for a temporary internet connection.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 

 I will not know the zip codes until WISPA reviews and signs an NDA.  That
 is now in process.  I’m merely pointing out the importance of listing zip
 codes so I can quickly reference that list for initial contact
 opportunities.  We have to start some place.  I realize that many operators
 will expand as necessary to take care of a valuable client.  Zip Codes are
 part of it, finding a WISP on the map relatively close to a given point is
 another way.  There are often a number of WISPA members who serve a given
 zip code or are in close proximity to a given location.  

 From my point of view, it is not my place to pick the winners and losers,
 just get the information to those members who could potentially fulfill the
 need.  Do I make mistakes?  Sure I do.  I made one last week in California,
 when I found a provider that appeared on the map, but I didn’t take time to
 do a zip code search and missed another member that could have taken care
 of the client.  I feel badly about that and learned that I need to be more
 careful in the future.

 The point is, we have come a long way in the past few years but there is
 still room for improvement.  We need each provider to help us, so we can
 help them.  

 *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
 way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way
 *

 ** **

 Respectfully,**

 * *

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org

 adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Brad Belton
 *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 1:51 PM

 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

 ** **

 Rick,

 Exactly the point I’m trying to make…listing every ZIP Code in the country
 wouldn’t do the potential client or potential provider any good.  That is
 why I suggest listing the ZIP Codes the potential client is interested in
 and the providers that feel they can serve the area immediately (or expand
 their coverage to earn the business) can respond.

 I would be very surprised to learn that we are the only provider that will
 build out or expand network coverage in order to acquire a new account!
 So, the idea of a provider listing only ZIP Codes that they currently cover
 would be considered short sighted…IMO.

 I’ll add that the street runs both ways as well.  We have facilitated many
 circuits within our network for third parties.

 Best,

 Brad

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 12:35 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

 ** **

 Brad,

 I don’t think our database could accept that many and it would not give us
 an accurate picture of wireless coverage either.  The member’s zip code map
 is also generated from this information.  I assume when more details are
 known, you will get the opportunity to bid on various locations, whether
 wirelessly or by data circuit (hardline).

 Rick

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Brad Belton
 *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 1:09 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

 ** **

 We have facilitated several data circuits around the country.  Should we
 simply list every ZIP Code in the country?  

 Best,

 Brad

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 12:06 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

 ** **

 At this point, they seem to be unaware of the database.  I did not tell
 him about it yet.  It was not their idea to update the database, it was
 mine as I need cooperation from the individual wisps to bring business to
 your door.  The last time I looked, I believe only about 40% of the members
 had updated the zip code information.

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Doug Clark
 *Sent:* Friday, August 03

Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Fax VoIP solution

2012-07-26 Thread Chuck Hogg

We've been using this solution for a long time and reselling it to our
customers.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Just talked to someone who has been having good luck with this solution.
  Put a server in your NOC and then the AudioCodes device is $150

 http://www.faxback.com/ http://www.faxback.com/Index.html

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions

2012-07-02 Thread Chuck Hogg

Those are obsolete.

Regards,
Chuck


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 ** **

 Linksys SPA2102

 ** **

 Joey Craig 

 *Network/RF Engineer*

 *Firenet1.Com http://www.firenet1.com/*

 *Phone:  (662) 510-0764*

 *Mobile**: (662) 404-1118*
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 Behalf Of *John McDowell
 *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2012 10:57 AM
 *To:* a...@afmug.com; wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org

 *Subject:* [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions
 

  ** **

 All,

 ** **

 If you feel you could benefit from a **SOHO** router with built in POE,
 built in ATA or both, please email me on or off list with your comments and
 opinions. What are you currently using for ATA/POE, what percentage of your
 customers are voip customers, etc? What ATA do you use now?

 ** **

 Sincerely,

 John McDowell
 Sales Executive
 Direct: 801.984.5137
 Cell: 256.996.0252
 j...@readynetsolutions.com
 www.readynetsolutions.com

 

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Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions

2012-07-02 Thread Chuck Hogg

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10024/prod_eol_notices_list.html

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 Why?




  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 *Date:* 7/2/2012 10:40:58 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions

 Those are obsolete.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Joey Craig joey.cr...@firenet1.comwrote:
 

 Linksys SPA2102

 ** **

 Joey Craig 

 *Network/RF Engineer*

 *Firenet1.Com http://www.firenet1.com/*

 *Phone:  (662) 510-0764*

 *Mobile**: (662) 404-1118*
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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *John McDowell
 *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2012 10:57 AM
 *To:* a...@afmug.com; wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org

 *Subject:* [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions
 

 ** **

 All,

 ** **

 If you feel you could benefit from a **SOHO** router with built in POE,
 built in ATA or both, please email me on or off list with your comments and
 opinions. What are you currently using for ATA/POE, what percentage of your
 customers are voip customers, etc? What ATA do you use now?

 ** **

 Sincerely,

 John McDowell
 Sales Executive
 Direct: 801.984.5137
 Cell: 256.996.0252
 j...@readynetsolutions.com
 www.readynetsolutions.com

 

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Re: [WISPA] Mail Migration to Google Apps

2012-06-14 Thread Chuck Hogg

I migrated over 1k IMAP accounts and over 300 Exchange accounts using the
tools Faisal linked.  They are rather simple, but need a little babysitting
to make sure that all of the emails are processed correctly.

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Cliff Leboeuf cliff.lebo...@cssla.comwrote:

   I have a customer looking for assistance moving the following mail data
 to Goggle Apps.

 MS Exchange: 313 Mailboxes - 550 GB of data
   ProofPoint: 686 Mailboxes -  3 TB

  Does anyone have experience and suggestions or recommendations to assist
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Re: [WISPA] What you can do!

2012-05-25 Thread Chuck Hogg

Problem is, I was 1 of 2 of about 20 WISPs in KY that actually reported
this data.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 Couldn't you just request that information from the various state mapping
 agencies that are already doing the heavy lifting?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 - Original Message -
 From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:50:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What you can do!

  Someone asked on the Members List what they could do to help the overall
  cause of trying to get/protect spectrum and to avoid CAF/USF pitfalls.
  Thought it would be appropriate here as well:

 One thing I always thought might be helpfull. Allow all WISPA members
 to submit all there tower coordinates, heights and frequencies to
 WISPA.  Run propagation studies on sites for them if they allow such
 data to be displayed on a Google Map on WISPA's site with the
 propagation patterns from all other members on it.  WISPA would have
 benefit of true map and users would have benefit of getting copy to
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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

2012-05-23 Thread Chuck Hogg

ATT 4G is what we call FauxG.  It's fake 4G.  On the iPhones they are now
calling HSDPA+ 4G, when a few months ago it was still considered 3G.  Now
on their coverage map, 4G LTE is listed separately.  There is limited LTE
ATT 4G in the US at this time, only in the big major cities.  Not even
available anywhere in KY for example.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

 I am seeing some of ATT 4G in my area, which is very heavy tree canopy,
 and we are seeing 200 ms latency ... 

 I don't see how that can work very well.

 ** **

 Victoria Proffer

 STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

 314-720-1000

 ** **

 *From:* Jason Bailey [mailto:j284...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:11 PM
 *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

 ** **

 700/800 MHz  with an outdoor antenna?

 --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com* wrote:
 


 From: Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM

 How does this fair in heavy tree canopy?

  

 Victoria Proffer

 STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

 314-720-1000

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Jason Bailey
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

  

 Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it
 quickly

 --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini 
 g...@aeronetpr.comhttp://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com
 * wrote:


 From: Gino Villarini 
 g...@aeronetpr.comhttp://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com
 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
 To: WISPA General List 
 wireless@wispa.orghttp://mc/compose?to=wireless@wispa.org
 
 Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM

 Old

 News

 Sent from my Motorola Startac...  

  


 On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:


 http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html
 

  

  

  

 Nice

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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

2012-05-23 Thread Chuck Hogg

Like I said, it's not 4G LTE like Verizon's 4G.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

 See attached.

 ** **

 Victoria Proffer

 STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

 314-720-1000

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Victoria Proffer
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:22 PM
 *To:* 'Jason Bailey'; 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

 ** **

 I am seeing some of ATT 4G in my area, which is very heavy tree canopy,
 and we are seeing 200 ms latency ... 

 I don't see how that can work very well.

 ** **

 Victoria Proffer

 STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

 314-720-1000

 ** **

 *From:* Jason Bailey [mailto:j284...@yahoo.com j284...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:11 PM
 *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

 ** **

 700/800 MHz  with an outdoor antenna?

 --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com* wrote:
 


 From: Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM

 How does this fair in heavy tree canopy?

  

 Victoria Proffer

 STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

 314-720-1000

  

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Jason Bailey
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?

  

 Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it
 quickly

 --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini 
 g...@aeronetpr.comhttp://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com
 * wrote:


 From: Gino Villarini 
 g...@aeronetpr.comhttp://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com
 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
 To: WISPA General List 
 wireless@wispa.orghttp://mc/compose?to=wireless@wispa.org
 
 Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM

 Old

 News

 Sent from my Motorola Startac...  

  


 On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:


 http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html
 

  

  

  

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

2012-05-18 Thread Chuck Hogg

I also attended WISPA's Advocacy Day in Washington DC to inform our
senators and congressmen about our industry and who we are.  One resounding
message that was sent to me was that they didn't even know we exist in the
areas we serve.  They don't know what your coverage area is because many of
the WISPs have not participated in the broadband mapping for the NTIA's
mapping project.  They are prepared to hand out funding and spectrum to the
Verizon's, ATT's, Rural ILEC's, and satellite providers because we are not
representing our industry in their mapping.  I have been successful because
of our mapping in blocking Exede and WildBlue from receiving subsidies to
provide internet access in areas that I already cover.  I know if
Windstream, ATT, or any other ILEC were to receive millions of federal
subsidies to provide access to my customers that it would severely impact
our business.

I don't know about you guys, but these people are giving away TV's,
Laptops, etc. in my area to obtain subscribers.  The reason they are able
to do this is that they receive subsidies to provide the service, which
typically more than covers the cost of the subscriber's yearly services.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.netwrote:

 ** ** ** ** ** **

 It’s going to vary by state.  In general, participate in your state
 mapping project and complete your 477 form. 

 ** **

 Regards,

 Jeff

 Sales Manager, Blue Technology
 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
 574-220-7826 (Cell)
 +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)
 

   --

 *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2012 9:41 AM
 *To:* memb...@wispa.org
 *Cc:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Washington** **DC Trip and PLEA

 ** **

 What maps?  Connected Nation?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite** 1337**
 Troy**, **OH** **45373

 On May 18, 2012 8:15 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net
 wrote:

 Hi All,

 I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great
 group
 of folks, spreading the WISP message!

 We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
 implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
 for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
 about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
 speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!

 Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
 technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
 the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
 a AP from the UP.

 My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
 national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
 If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
 incredibly clear.

 Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.
  You
 owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort
 to
 be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
 key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
 Advocacy Day.

 Regards,

 Jeff


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Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

2012-05-12 Thread Chuck Hogg

FYI, you can overlay multiple files.
Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Brian Webster 
bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote:

 It’s an issue with the size of the file. Google Maps is only supposed to
 support a file overlay size of up to 1 meg. This one is about 2.2 meg so
 sometimes it does not act properly. And yes this file needs to be updated,
 problem is it’s going to make the file larger and probably break it.

 ** **

 Thank You,

 Brian Webster

 www.wirelessmapping.com

 www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 ** **

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2012 10:34 PM

 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

 ** **

 Working for me now.  Weird.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 

 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:*
 ***

 Way out-dated..but it's good here too.

 --- On *Fri, 5/11/12, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com* wrote:


 From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com


 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 10:02 PM

 ** **

 Works for me
 Regards,
 Chuck

 

 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Rick Harnish 
 rharn...@wispa.orghttp://mc/compose?to=rharn...@wispa.org
 wrote:

 Worked for me


 -Original Message-
 From: 
 wireless-boun...@wispa.orghttp://mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org[mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.orghttp://mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:55 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

 Yes.

 On 05/11/2012 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Does this fail to load at all or completely for anyone else?
 
  http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] pages not loading/displaying properly

2012-05-11 Thread Chuck Hogg

FYI, a thread was started on this by Mark@Socaltelephone and multiple
people have responded.  Multiple people responded with things to check and
Mark has yet to respond back at any attempts to isolate the issue.  We're
all here to help, but let's not create multiple threads on the same issue
from the same company.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:09 AM, David Hannum
d.han...@newerabroadband.comwrote:

 Have you checked your network for packet loss?

 Dave
 On May 11, 2012 8:44 AM, Carlo A. Benavides 
 cbenavi...@socaltelephone.com wrote:

 I hope someone can give an idea what to look for with our current issue.
 Pages will not load properly (attached screenshots).  i.e. youtube.comvideo 
 boxes are just solid black with no way to play, this includes videos
 on msn, yahoo, etc…

 ** **

 Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached)…  If
 someone is able to login to the yahoo email they cannot check boxes to
 delete messages and with hotmail they cannot select the emails at all.  So
 far I have gotten  10-15 calls with this issue with no obvious thing in
 common (antivirus, internet security, CPE’s, routers, tower site)  at one
 point I thought it came down to Netgear routers but after having a customer
 bypass it, issue still occurred… 

 ** **

 This issue started for all customer on the same day (last Wednesday)…

 ** **

 ** **

 Thanks,

 ** **

 Carlo A. Benavides

 ** **

 Southern California Telephone Co.

 27515 Enterprise Circle West

 Temecula, CA. 92590

 ** **

 Office  (951) 693-1880

 Fax  (951) 693-1550 

 Cell  (951) 551-7189

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

2012-05-11 Thread Chuck Profito


+1  for Wi-Eye  


skynet-terminator-assault.jpg 


Wi-Eye


SkyEye


Skynet 


Skynet Alive 


Skynet Comes Alive 


 


 


 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Victoria Proffer
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:04 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

 

Wi-Eye ... =))

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 

314-720-1000

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Zach Mann
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

 

Brainstorm time, 

 

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
Open to any suggestions.

 

Thanks in advance

 

-Zach 

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

2012-05-11 Thread Chuck Hogg

Works for me
Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:

 Worked for me

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:55 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

 Yes.

 On 05/11/2012 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Does this fail to load at all or completely for anyone else?
 
  http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm
 
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly

2012-05-09 Thread Chuck Hogg

Seen that with Netgear routers and SPI.

Seen it with improperly routed networks.

Seen it with proxy caching.

Regards,
Chuck


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 Seen that on Trango.  Bad RF link.

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 On May 9, 2012 7:30 PM, Mark Theis mth...@socaltelephone.com wrote:


 This all started last Wednesday.  We have had about 15 WiFi customers
 that are all getting the same symptoms. Pages will not load properly
 (attached screenshots).  i.e. youtube.com video boxes are just solid
 black with no way to play, this includes videos on msn, yahoo, etc…

 Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached, ignore
 the teamviewer box on the images)…  If someone is able to login to the
 yahoo email they cannot check boxes to delete messages and with hotmail
 they cannot select the emails at all.  We have not been able to isolate any
 commonalities between the customer’s computers, operating systems,
 antivirus software, routers, radios, frequency, and even access points. At
 one point, we thought that we had the problem narrowed down to Netgear
 routers but after having a customer bypass it, issue still occurred…

 One of the customers had a computer consultant come look at their system
 and when they switched to the consultants MyFi the problem stopped... Then
 as soon as they went back onto our WiFi connection, the problem returned.

 Has anyone had something like this happen to your network?  Any ideas on
 where to look next?
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 Thanks!


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 *Southern California Telephone  Energy - SCTE
 *
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

2012-04-26 Thread Chuck Hogg

My uptime is nothing to brag about...but it's been up 41 days since I
last upgraded to 5.14 and I haven't had any issues with them.

Regards,
Chuck


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 Free one from Vegas died.  Bought one and it reboots every few days.  Not
 customer ready.

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Apr 26, 2012 3:19 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote:

 Is anyone utilizing RB751's for this role? If so, are they reliable?

 I've thought about using them since they can easily be managed remotely by
 our staff via Webfig, or the API.

 --
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 On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:40, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 We use TP-Link WR340G and can usually get them for about $20 shipped. Just
 a basic G router, but adequate for most customers/houses. We have over 100
 in the field and only 1 bad one in about a year of using them. Used to use
 Linksys and Netgear, had 3-4 times the failure rate on those.

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Darin Steffl dcsho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys,

 What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you
 include them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch of 10
 Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some
 problems.  Could be a bad batch.

 I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with
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 TP-Link TL-WR841N

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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

2012-04-03 Thread Chuck Hogg

It is a package for RouterOS.

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:User_Manager

Regards,
Chuck



On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 On what web?  I never saw an interface for customers to make an account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Apr 2, 2012 7:14 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 Users create their own account on the web or you can log into the web
 interface and do it easy.

 The front end can run on any little cheap MT router or AP.  If your using
 other brands of Aps just plug them into a $39 750 for the front end.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:55 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

 User creation?  Front end?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net
 wrote:
  Why not just use Mikrotik User Manager and you don't have to pay
  commission to a third party?  We've been running it on a routerboard
  for years without issue.  We have virtual Aps on all our residential
  repeaters running a hotspot pointed to one.  It's simple and works
  great.
 
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Rick Kunze
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:52 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
 
  I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit.
  www.wirelessorbit.com
 
  I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's been
  rather idle for a few years.  No action on the discussion groups, last
  posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like that.  Not to
  mention the site itself seems only partially complete.
 
  Is anyone familiar with these guys?
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

2012-04-03 Thread Chuck Hogg

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Manager/User_sign_up#Setup

Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Right, I have it installed, but what interface do customers make an
 account?  I've only seen the administrative interface.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 It is a package for RouterOS.

 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:User_Manager

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 On what web?  I never saw an interface for customers to make an account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Apr 2, 2012 7:14 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 Users create their own account on the web or you can log into the web
 interface and do it easy.

 The front end can run on any little cheap MT router or AP.  If your using
 other brands of Aps just plug them into a $39 750 for the front end.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:55 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

 User creation?  Front end?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net
 wrote:
  Why not just use Mikrotik User Manager and you don't have to pay
  commission to a third party?  We've been running it on a routerboard
  for years without issue.  We have virtual Aps on all our residential
  repeaters running a hotspot pointed to one.  It's simple and works
  great.
 
  Jim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Rick Kunze
  Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:52 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
 
  I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit.
  www.wirelessorbit.com
 
  I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's been
  rather idle for a few years.  No action on the discussion groups, last
  posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like that.  Not to
  mention the site itself seems only partially complete.
 
  Is anyone familiar with these guys?
 
  Thanks.
 
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Re: [WISPA] THANKS!

2012-04-01 Thread Chuck Hogg

+ 1000.

Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
 ISPAmerica 2012 was a GREAT show!  There were a LOT of awesome speakers
 and sessions (thanks to Nathan).  This was a very well organized event
 overall (thanks to Rick and Trina).

 I would like to extend my thanks to those of you who visited the booth
 as well as those who attended the training.  It was amazing to get a
 chance to meet face to face so many new people as well as catch up with
 those old friends who were there.  I am grateful for the opportunity to
 serve this great group of people.

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Re: [WISPA] THANKS!

2012-04-01 Thread Chuck Hogg

Well to be honest, this was one of those shows where it got me excited
about being in this business again.  I've had my head so deep in
things for a while that this show reinvigorated me.  I have a whole
list of things to start working on this week.

Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 20:27 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 + 1000.

 WOOHOO!!  High score!!

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] THANKS!

2012-04-01 Thread Chuck Hogg

Well these are my thoughts,

-Get Fiber in the ground, I think we've got it figured out, met with
our attorney and discussed it, listened to 3 other people talk about
how they did it.  It's time to get it done.  We bought a vibratory
plow, let's go.
-Finalized our ICA and which one to choose.  We've been a CLEC for a
while but have never used it.  This also goes up to the one above,
about getting fiber in the ground as we will also have to use some
poles and ROW.
-Gerard and I have this crazy plan on how to use AirFiber.  Gerard has
been wanting to do a variation of this since the day we started our
WISP but we've had to wait for the technology to catch up and be cheap
enough.  We plan to drop poles every 1-1.5 Miles ($800) if this works
out and build 700M/FD rings in our rural areas using AirFiber ($3000).
 Then at each 1-1.5 Miles add a few Nano AP's and accessories ($500)
that operate in the now available 5.4GHz band.  I figured it out that
I could upgrade almost all of my customers to a 50Mbit/s plan doing
this.  Only have 5-10 customers per AP.  Run them in low power.
-Use AirFiber to cross Railroad tracks when you are doing the fiber.
This then allows you to avoid the 12-24 month long process of being
able to tunnel under the railroad.
-Upgrade a huge portion of our network to WiMax.  Look at offering a
UBB based plan over the WiMax, and let it go as fast as it can.
-Get our Billing system working the way we need it to.
-Free Public WiFi Cooperative project with the city
-Get to DC to support WISPA!

Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Share the list...

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
 Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 9:18 PM
 To: but...@butchevans.com
 Cc: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] THANKS!

 Well to be honest, this was one of those shows where it got me excited about 
 being in this business again.  I've had my head so deep in things for a while 
 that this show reinvigorated me.  I have a whole list of things to start 
 working on this week.

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 20:27 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 + 1000.

 WOOHOO!!  High score!!

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Re: [WISPA] Santa Rosa CA

2012-03-28 Thread Chuck Profito

why are they not just calling Meraki direct, they are just down the 101 from
them???

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of li...@cielosystems.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:21 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
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Subject: [WISPA] Santa Rosa CA

Is there anyone in the Santa Rosa, California area. One of our customers
needs assistance locally for their Meraki Wifi network.  
Please contact jdipa...@cielosystems.net for further detail.

thanks,

Mike Goicoechea
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Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor

2012-03-27 Thread Chuck Profito

the most inexpensive is in your trash pile, a power pinger, or CB3 radio,
plug it in on the line side of the UPS and just  ping it every minute and
you will know when you are on battery.  Conversely for a  generator.  also a
camera facing a set of gages, voltage, line, generator, oil pressure, temp,
etc.  Your probably too young to remember the cable weather channel  same
thing but with music. 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Troy Settle
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:45 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor

 

We've recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found
an affordable solution for monitoring them.  Does anyone know of a simple
product that will enable me to monitor these things?  Everything I've found
is super expensive.  All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired
into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch.  I'm not (yet) concerned
about monitoring other metrics.

 

Thanks,

 

-- 

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Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor

2012-03-27 Thread Chuck Profito

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor

the most inexpensive is in your trash pile, a power pinger, or CB3 radio,
plug it in on the line side of the UPS and just  ping it every minute and
you will know when you are on battery.  Conversely for a  generator.  also a
camera facing a set of gages, voltage, line, generator, oil pressure, temp,
etc.  Your probably too young to remember the cable weather channel  same
thing but with music. 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Troy Settle
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:45 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor

We've recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found
an affordable solution for monitoring them.  Does anyone know of a simple
product that will enable me to monitor these things?  Everything I've found
is super expensive.  All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired
into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch.  I'm not (yet) concerned
about monitoring other metrics.

Thanks,

-- 

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  The Wired Road Authority

  1117 E. Stuart Dr.

  Galax, VA 24333

  (276) 238-0049 (office)

  (276) 237-3890 (cell)

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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-23 Thread Chuck Hogg

Larger receive antenna.

On Friday, March 23, 2012, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got the impression that 24Ghz was good out to 2 miles.  How are they
reaching 15km with airFiber?  Awesome stuff, and a great video.
http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber

 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 2995 actually

 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Mar 23, 2012 12:17 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 2999.00 per link!




 ---Original Message---

 From: Zach Mann
 Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics


 Price range ?  :)

 On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg



 24Ghz



 Gino A. Villarini

 g...@aeronetpr.com

 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

 787.273.4143

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Zach Mann
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:04 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: a...@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics



 Nice.  Gig speeds ?

 On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com

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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-23 Thread Chuck Hogg

At 1-1.5 miles you get full modulation or 1.4gbps.   At 13km you get
125x125 or 250 aggregate.

On Friday, March 23, 2012, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 Does not matter.  There is no way on that you are going to defy the laws
of physics and have a solid link beyond
 2 miles in desert regions and maybe a half a mile in tropical regions.
Will it link up over 8 miles.maybe,  But how much data will it pass?



 ---Original Message---

 From: Chuck Hogg
 Date: 3/23/2012 1:16:40 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

 Larger receive antenna.



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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Chuck Hogg

I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a mechanical device.  You
can't reboot it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer 
victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote:

 Can you set it on an auto-ping?

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 314-974-5600

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 *From:* Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
 *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

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 The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
 breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset
 device.

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 Thank You,

 Brian Webster

 www.wirelessmapping.com

 www.Broadband-Mapping.com

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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Victoria Proffer
 *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

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 Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

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 i.e. 

 strip  cell phone  pstn  my computer

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 Victoria Proffer

 STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/

 314-974-5600

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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering
 *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

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 We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
 outlets for my
 Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
 after a few mins..

 Ryan

 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 wrote:

 You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
 regulation before.

 A few thoughts come to mind:

 * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
 for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
 keeps you from having an outage.

 * Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
 your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
 have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.

 If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
 plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
 hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?


 On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
  Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
  One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
  miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
 
  Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
  without violating code?
 
  Thanks,
 
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  The Wired Road Authority
 
  1117 E. Stuart Dr.
 
  Galax, VA 24333
 
  (276) 238-0049 (office)
 
  (276) 237-3890 (cell)
 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Site to Sell

2012-03-15 Thread Chuck Profito

uh how about this one WISPA.org

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Zach Mann
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Site to Sell

Ebay  :) 

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Don Marino d...@greataukwireless.com
wrote:

Hey all,  does anyone have a recommendation on a reliable site to sell used
wireless equipment? 
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Re: [WISPA] New Crown Castle Nightmare Developing

2012-03-11 Thread Chuck Hogg

I was told there would be a change at WISPALOOZA...after 6 weeks of
negotiations, we walked away.  A friend of mine decommissioned a Crown site
he was on.  They removed everything.  Some how a cable hanger was still
there.  Crown is fighting with them to get them to pay back rent for that
one cable hanger.  The claim was $14,000 in back rent and $4,000 to remove
the cable hanger.  Each month that $14k increases.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

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 Looked at a Crown tower today - and remembered the horror stories.
 Not interested unless there is a real change.



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org
 *To:* 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:13 PM
 *Subject:* [WISPA] New Crown Castle Nightmare Developing

  *I wish I could say nice things… I wish I could say nice things.  But
 Mama told me that if I can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
 *

 *I have a pretty good Crown Castle horror story developing.  I will be
 glad to share the details if things do not get ironed out, and quickly.*

 * *

 *I will say that if you are considering it, do not get into a contract
 with them. They still think we are all Cell Carriers or Clearwire!*

 * *

 * *

 *If the representative from the “Kinder, Gentler, WISPA member Crown
 Castle” happens to be listening, I think he needs to reply to me off list!
 *

 * *

 * *

 *Ralph*

 *Brightlan.net *

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:

 Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
 friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

Before and After.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

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 I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
 right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
 


 Regards,
 Chuck

 

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
 

 Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
 friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

As in the 2 of us included or we're out?

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 The seats are filled.  

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 Jim

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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Jim Patient
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America

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 We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
 3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and
 want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  

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 Link Technologies, Inc.

 314-735-0270 x102

 http://mywificoverage.com

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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing
is something I have not yet done.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

 Chuck, go Bass fishing.  You will really like that!  We did that
 twice last time we were down there, it was a blast!
 I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a
 state of oblivion.




  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 *Date:* 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ISP America

 As in the 2 of us included or we're out?

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.netwrote:

 The seats are filled.  

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 Jim

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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Jim Patient
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America

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 We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
 3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and
 want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  

 ** **

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 Link Technologies, Inc.

 314-735-0270 x102

 http://mywificoverage.com

 http://www.linktechs.net 

 

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