Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
They did change it recently and they've been good to me... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I've always hated the Pac grids. They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB LESS rssi than others I've used. I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable product? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big links. I use the Pac grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13category=3529 Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same feeds as the linked one. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I've always hated the Pac grids. They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB LESS rssi than others I've used. I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable product? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big links. I use the Pac grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
How many TR 6000's do you want for your AP's? bawhahahahahahaha One of these days I'm gonna remember to take a video cam along and toss one out of the 65' bucket truck! I sure wish I had this guy's tool for fixing crappy hardware! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6HR35fBDU marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios for sale, please contact me. We are switching to 10mhz channels and I have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out. I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo, and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a Ubiquiti radio. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Fixed the problem right up, didn't it! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: How many TR 6000's do you want for your AP's? bawhahahahahahaha One of these days I'm gonna remember to take a video cam along and toss one out of the 65' bucket truck! I sure wish I had this guy's tool for fixing crappy hardware! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6HR35fBDU marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios for sale, please contact me. We are switching to 10mhz channels and I have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out. I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo, and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a Ubiquiti radio. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Those are 5 gig. I decided NOT to go the cheap route on any 5 gig systems out here. I'm looking for 2.4 gig grids that are of good/great quality. I've been paying around $100 for a 24dB grid and it doesn't bother me a bit. Here's a tip for you guys that go dirt cheap on everything and then complain about the time you spend. My network is now bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. We have over 600 wireless subs and a couple of hundred other customers. I take care of it all with the equivalent of 2.5 people! Don't go too cheap. It'll cost you time and reputation in the end. marlon - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4188/.f?sc=13category=3529 Those have a very heavy mount and the expected gain. The ones with the cheap metal clip on can go right up the designers back side. Seriously poor design on those. I have replaced most of the feeds with the same feeds as the linked one. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I've always hated the Pac grids. They are heavy and have flimsy mounts. And they seem to have 2 to 3 dB LESS rssi than others I've used. I've always spent the money to buy the Andrew (or whatever they are this week) units. Those aren't made anymore though. Anyone know of a comparable product? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big links. I use the Pac grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
[WISPA] Looking for 900 MHz pioneers
Please contact me offline if you a) If you have long-time 900 MHz deployment experience and consider yourself a 900 MHz pioneer, or b) If you have extensive experience tracking down and solving 900 MHz interference problems. Thanks, jack 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios for sale, please contact me. We are switching to 10mhz channels and I have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out. I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo, and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a Ubiquiti radio. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
What are you guys moving to? ryan On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote: Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Most I've received is about $50 for them...I still have some too. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sara Gray Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Not interested at the moment. Just bought 25 at $30 Each. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sara Gray Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
We switched to M5's Sara -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. What are you guys moving to? ryan On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote: Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
$100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........
Then get a grid and slap it on. I have two parts for small or big links. I use the Pac grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Not as big an antenna though, CPQ-15's you should compare with PS2's if anything, they work about the same in the field on receive. Regards Michael Baird An NS2 is $80 list. I think most will agree it is superior, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: $100 I doubt it. New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less. Why buy old/used Wifi? Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used. Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to get $50, on the high side. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell.. Tranzeo CPQ 19f We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. Hoping they are worth around $100. Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com. Sara Gray WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for WISP in these Areas
Mr. Randall has not received any responses from this yet so I'm resending. He will be sending me more as he gets them. Dear Sirs: I am looking for WISP Services in the following locations, (Sorry but we do need to place a rush on these locations listed below). Please be sure that when you give me a quote that the total is for EVERY THING . We will need five static IP Address with 512 kbps up and down. Anything over is gravy. Locations: 1. 46330 Panoche Rd. Firebaugh, Ca. 93622 559-659-6913 2. 1403 Eagle Ridge Rd. Le Claire, IA. 52753 563-289-4801 3. 401 S. Pierce St.Alma, Ga. 31510 912-632-2657 4. 100 SW 28th Ave. Minot, Md. 58701 701-420-2890 Please get back to me when you get these and we are ready to go when you find a home for them. Thanks JC Randall HyperDSL 707-643-0105 JC Randall [...@hyperdsl.net] Respectfully Rick Harnish President WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
PC Tel (Maxrad) makes very good antennas and they stand behind them. I have sold them to many clients with very few issues ever. The Laird (Pac Wireless) products also seem to have a very low complaint rate. Please note this is the opinion of a supplier not an installer but, I do hear from a lot of people. The MTI product is also a high quality choice. Note: One of my clients has started using plexi-glass covers to replace original material on the Pac Wireless product. A simple flat piece installed with silicone. Hope this helps Tracy Tippett www.tracanllc.com --Original Mail-- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 06 May 2010 17:33:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
If you keep the signal levels up, so that the data rates stay up (all stay above -73), you can move about 6-8 mbit in a 5 mhz channel at 900. I've been using UBNT radios and star-os to drive them. 900 mhz is VERY prone to interference, the RSSI levels are hugely affected by weather, humidity, and things like snow on the ground. Snow raises my client's RSSI by anywhere from 5 for the strongest to over 20 db for the weakest. Clients that are -82 in the summer are -60 or so in the winter - when there's snow on the ground.Just raining, and then falling below freezing will do a 3-8 db gain in RSSI. As you say, OFDM at 900 Mhz is one fascinating exercise. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Oh, hell yes, my brother! - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chismjchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
Now, just make the CPE's work with my existing XR9 based AP's!!! Josh Luthman wrote: 900.OFDMI can't sleep I'm so excited! On 5/6/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been looking at them and reading and it's all good. Looks like the ca$h is well worth it. Hurts, but still seems to be money well spent. UBNT tells me august for 900MHz sectors and rockets.. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. MTI is damn good quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/29/2010 8:17 PM, Robert West wrote: I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Jeremie Chism"jchi...@gmail.com To: "WISPA General List"wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Robert West"robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I'd argue that the Yagis would not have a narrow enough verticle beamwidth, and Downtilt would be hard to get right, and/or to much energy wasted getting directed in the wrong verticle directions, thus being less efficent than a panel. But I guess it would depend on the needs of where deploying. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. It's canopy - 8mhz channels. He is using ONE radio for all three antennas. Works like an omni and does a good job. On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or not either. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or not either. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
It's canopy - 8mhz channels. He is using ONE radio for all three antennas. Works like an omni and does a good job. On 5/3/10, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: What gain of YAGI are you using? You didn't say how well it was working or not either. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I'd advise against Yagi's as APs if you live anywhere there is even minor ICE buildup. The last thing you want is your network going down every time there is freezing rain, when the antennas are up a tower. Also more likely the Crows will use your Yagi as their hangout sitting spot. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday
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Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 AP's. If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you expect less than 20 subs. Scott
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I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only
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What about the front to back ratio with the yagis? That's really gotta suck unless you're going with 5mhz channels. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them
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SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 AP's. If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you expect less than 20 subs. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB
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Note... Teletronics also makes/carries a Horizontal 900Mhz 120deg sector, priced competitively. We were in a crunch for antennas quickly, so since Teletronics was local to us, we gave them a try (instead of waiting for Tilteks). After all was said and done, the Teletronic antennas actually worked very well for us. In that deployment, we had the antennas on opposite sides of large dirt hill, so I cant comment on their F/B isolation for colocating them. But it performed as spec'd and.was very durable. These were a bit more sleak, meaning uniform shaped and not very deep, so cosmetically they were less noticeable. Just another option to consider. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
MTI is the shizz for this. MTI will give much better coverage than a superpass, more than enough coverage to be worth the extra money. The MTI's radiating/listening pattern is pretty neat too, whereas the Superpass will be kinda like a lopsided omni. The pac-wireless hoz 900 sectors are actually good too in terms of operation. Their fiberglassing isn't quite as good as MTI's covering though. Superpass is a step up over a $100 omni, but it's not functionally competitive for sectors. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:02:10PM -0400, Robert West wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I looked at what was out there, and decided that most were too expensive and worse... Too large for some sites. I've used the little yagi's as sectors and really, for a cheap site, or a site you can't install the big antennas, they work reasonably well.Not very good front / back ratio, however. For a site with all the clients in a 100 degree arc, I put up two.They don't seem to interfere with each other, and more importantly, they are very small for a housetop access point, and at 6 feet vertical separation, they don't seem to have any issues even while using adjoining 5 mhz channels. You get what you pay for, but sometimes that's just what you need. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:02 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
THANKS for changing the subjectCheck out MTI...worth the extra --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I hear ya. I will gladly pay extra now to not have to go back over and over. Pays 10X in the long run. I prefer goo quality. :) I'll give it a look to be sure. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Tiltek dual polarity 900 MHz. I have had 8 up for 2.5 years with no problem. Not the cheapest but definitely goo quality. I like to use equipment that I don't have to go back to. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I've had suggestions of MTI's. They are very expensive anywhere, I believe. I absolutely love MTI's 5Ghz sector and 900 omni (though it's super super super super super heavy). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I've been using the Comet 900 Omnis and they work great but not for much distance. The Comet is heavy at all but pretty solid. Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I've had suggestions of MTI's. They are very expensive anywhere, I believe. I absolutely love MTI's 5Ghz sector and 900 omni (though it's super super super super super heavy). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Agreed. But I prefer the julian calender explaination. It's more confusing. - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Maybe. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Hey! Does the H-Pol stand for Heavy Politics? ducking On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........
I've had Superpass units up since 2004 and still working well. I almost hate to switch but the Ubiquiti units are very tempting. -RickG On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live without radio? Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been promised? Do tell! What's the scoop Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19484 --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:28 PM Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live without radio? Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been promised? Do tell! What's the scoop Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Looks nice. Bullets But hopefully some RocketM's when the antennas are released. I'll be all over that. Is anyone on this list doing Beta tests with it yet? I'd love to see a side by side comparison with Canopy. Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19484 --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:28 PM Are they also matching them up with a damn great super fantsitc, can't live without radio? Will they finally be taking that swing at Canopy we've been promised? Do tell! What's the scoop Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I have been waiting to see this discussionso I started it! I know the schedule and I'm anxious to see it.It will come,and when it does it will shake the market up!IMHO we need that!.Jason For now,MTI expensive..GET what you pay for. --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:22 PM There are two more months in the 2nd quarter, they said in the last week they are still on target. Ubiquiti seems to come out with the products fine, they just don't get enough of it out into the pipeline to meet demand. Regards Michael Baird UBNT works on the Julian calendar. It's not their fault that you don't know how to convert. LOL! Thanks a bunch. I heard something aout them doing 900 sectors but nothing solid. Might be worth the wait. Like till 2013? Bob- - Original Message - From: Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. Also look at ubnt,They are coming out with 900 and 3.65 in the second quarter of 2010...H,isn't this the second quarter??? :) --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related. To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 9:02 PM I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 AP's. If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you expect less than 20 subs. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:02:10 -0400 I'm in need of a 120 or a couple of 90 degree 900MHz H-POL sector antenna(s). Not looking forward to buying worthless CRAP just because I've never had to buy these before so I'm asking who uses what and if it works great. I've done the Omni path, okay but noisy, but this new install needs some decent signal for 2 to 4 miles. Mostly clear path but, ofcourse , into the trees to the CPEs. I've looked at the Super Pass solution and as we all know, I'm a cheap SOB so it fits my budget but I'd gladly pay bigger $$$ for top quality if it's deserved. Thanks. Bob- The cheap SOB WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
Testing to a dedicated Cogent server in California yielded the best results; however, even testing to their pool of iperf servers provided a transfer of 796 Mb/s. The trick was to run multiple threads (50). Marco Coelho [r...@ns1 ~]# iperf -c dca.iperf.cogentco.com -w 256000 -P 50 -C Client connecting to dca.iperf.cogentco.com, TCP port 5001 TCP window size: 256 KByte (WARNING: requested 250 KByte) [ 49] local 64.202.224.2 port 38472 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 3] local 64.202.224.2 port 3 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 10] local 64.202.224.2 port 38426 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 5] local 64.202.224.2 port 1 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 4] local 64.202.224.2 port 5 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 8] local 64.202.224.2 port 38428 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 11] local 64.202.224.2 port 7 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 16] local 64.202.224.2 port 9 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 18] local 64.202.224.2 port 38432 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 6] local 64.202.224.2 port 38430 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 12] local 64.202.224.2 port 33341 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 17] local 64.202.224.2 port 38434 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 15] local 64.202.224.2 port 38436 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 14] local 64.202.224.2 port 33343 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 13] local 64.202.224.2 port 33345 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 20] local 64.202.224.2 port 38438 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 24] local 64.202.224.2 port 38439 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 27] local 64.202.224.2 port 33348 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 28] local 64.202.224.2 port 38442 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 23] local 64.202.224.2 port 33351 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 19] local 64.202.224.2 port 33349 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 29] local 64.202.224.2 port 38445 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 33] local 64.202.224.2 port 33352 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 21] local 64.202.224.2 port 33355 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 31] local 64.202.224.2 port 38448 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 44] local 64.202.224.2 port 33357 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 32] local 64.202.224.2 port 38446 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 30] local 64.202.224.2 port 38450 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 46] local 64.202.224.2 port 38451 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 47] local 64.202.224.2 port 33360 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 36] local 64.202.224.2 port 33362 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 51] local 64.202.224.2 port 33363 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 48] local 64.202.224.2 port 38456 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 40] local 64.202.224.2 port 38453 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 37] local 64.202.224.2 port 38458 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 26] local 64.202.224.2 port 33365 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 22] local 64.202.224.2 port 38460 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 43] local 64.202.224.2 port 38461 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 42] local 64.202.224.2 port 33367 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 52] local 64.202.224.2 port 38463 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 25] local 64.202.224.2 port 38464 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 38] local 64.202.224.2 port 33373 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 39] local 64.202.224.2 port 38467 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 50] local 64.202.224.2 port 38462 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 35] local 64.202.224.2 port 33374 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 9] local 64.202.224.2 port 33378 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 41] local 64.202.224.2 port 33377 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 45] local 64.202.224.2 port 33379 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ 7] local 64.202.224.2 port 38424 connected with 38.99.216.146 port 5001 [ 34] local 64.202.224.2 port 33375 connected with 38.99.216.150 port 5001 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 19] 0.0-10.0 sec 37.2 MBytes 31.2 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 36] 0.0-10.0 sec 21.1 MBytes 17.7 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 32] 0.0-10.0 sec 43.3 MBytes 36.3 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 30] 0.0-10.0 sec 42.9 MBytes 35.9 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 40] 0.0-10.0 sec 44.1 MBytes 36.9 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 44] 0.0-10.0 sec 17.1 MBytes 14.3 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 5] 0.0-10.0 sec 29.2 MBytes 24.5 Mbits/sec [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 26] 0.0-10.0 sec
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
So, I have a friend that tried that once. It can be pretty hard to get decent speed with bittorrent on a stock system. Lots of different clients, all requesting different data. Plays havoc on drives. Need plenty of cache. RAID0 disk array, etc. On top of that the linux distributions didn't seem to have that much demand, relatively speaking (FTP mirror sites across peering seem to perform better for me). To actually get enough demand to drive the throughput we wanted we had to resort to unmentionable yet far more popular content. But yes, quite fun to take something common and tune it to perform at uncommon loads. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Torrents will fill capacity much better. Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. Share the wealth! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: So, I have a friend that tried that once. It can be pretty hard to get decent speed with bittorrent on a stock system. Lots of different clients, all requesting different data. Plays havoc on drives. Need plenty of cache. RAID0 disk array, etc. A RAM Disk should work. Rather easy to setup in Linux to test with. On top of that the linux distributions didn't seem to have that much demand, relatively speaking (FTP mirror sites across peering seem to perform better for me). To actually get enough demand to drive the throughput we wanted we had to resort to unmentionable yet far more popular content. Get a Linux Distro, like Ubuntu, on release day. But yes, quite fun to take something common and tune it to perform at uncommon loads. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Torrents will fill capacity much better. Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. Share the wealth! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
Want to remind on the Latency factor versus window size that will limit the maximum speed possible to transfer per TCP session. To test 1G, you really need to have a near by low latency site to test to, to get accurate result for a single session. And may be impossible to fill capacity without multiple sessions. You'll probably have to use UDP to test for capacity. Testing TCP quality will be a bit tougher. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
Good info Rubens. Thanks! On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says: Actual tested throughput Ether1 - Ether2 = 1Gbps For large-large-large packets, as these boards are pps limited. Ether2 - Ether3 = 650Mbps 1Gbps throughput on ports 1-2 That's because Ether 2 to 5 are connected to a single gigabit CPU port. It should read 500 Mbps and not 650 Mbps, as 650 Mbps would imply a 1.3Gbps port. Is the 750 the same? THe RB750 don't use the RB450G and RB750G switch chip. (http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Switch_Chip_Features) Also, what does optional Switch Chip functionality for wire speed Gigabit throughput. mean? It means if you configure switching instead of CPU-forwarding on these ports, they will get wire speed throughput. But it will be limited layer-2 and may be tag insertion/removal, some L3/L4 ACLs if they are small. This is interesting as well: Comparing to RB750, the G version adds not only Gigabit capable ports, but a new 680MHz Atheros 7161 CPU for increased throughput. Up to 580Mbps throughout with larger packets, and up to 91500pps with small packets! According to the page above RB750G doesn't have the all-port-switch option of RB450G, which suggests it only has one gigabit connection to the CPU. The fact that all RB750G ports have the same MTU (http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards), when RB450G Ether1 has a slightly larger MTU than RB450G Ether2-5 suggests that as well. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
Torrents will fill capacity much better. Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. Share the wealth! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
Two 750Gs back to back with a cat 5 only got 300-400Mb in a test we just did recently. I'm interested to see if you are able to get something better. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
I just pulled 780 between Texas and California On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: Two 750Gs back to back with a cat 5 only got 300-400Mb in a test we just did recently. I'm interested to see if you are able to get something better. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says: Actual tested throughput Ether1 - Ether2 = 1Gbps Ether2 - Ether3 = 650Mbps 1Gbps throughput on ports 1-2 Is the 750 the same? Also, what does optional Switch Chip functionality for wire speed Gigabit throughput. mean? This is interesting as well: Comparing to RB750, the G version adds not only Gigabit capable ports, but a new 680MHz Atheros 7161 CPU for increased throughput. Up to 580Mbps throughout with larger packets, and up to 91500pps with small packets! -RickG On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: Two 750Gs back to back with a cat 5 only got 300-400Mb in a test we just did recently. I'm interested to see if you are able to get something better. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open I'm looking for someone with at least 1Gb/s of unused bandwidth to do a few iperf tests against. I just lit up some new fiber and want to see if it's up to snuff. Thanks in advance. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for iperf test site with 1G open
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thats leads me to a question. I note RB's website specs for the 450G says: Actual tested throughput Ether1 - Ether2 = 1Gbps For large-large-large packets, as these boards are pps limited. Ether2 - Ether3 = 650Mbps 1Gbps throughput on ports 1-2 That's because Ether 2 to 5 are connected to a single gigabit CPU port. It should read 500 Mbps and not 650 Mbps, as 650 Mbps would imply a 1.3Gbps port. Is the 750 the same? THe RB750 don't use the RB450G and RB750G switch chip. (http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Switch_Chip_Features) Also, what does optional Switch Chip functionality for wire speed Gigabit throughput. mean? It means if you configure switching instead of CPU-forwarding on these ports, they will get wire speed throughput. But it will be limited layer-2 and may be tag insertion/removal, some L3/L4 ACLs if they are small. This is interesting as well: Comparing to RB750, the G version adds not only Gigabit capable ports, but a new 680MHz Atheros 7161 CPU for increased throughput. Up to 580Mbps throughout with larger packets, and up to 91500pps with small packets! According to the page above RB750G doesn't have the all-port-switch option of RB450G, which suggests it only has one gigabit connection to the CPU. The fact that all RB750G ports have the same MTU (http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Maximum_Transmission_Unit_on_RouterBoards), when RB450G Ether1 has a slightly larger MTU than RB450G Ether2-5 suggests that as well. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...
Hello, I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the RB493. We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493. Anyone remember who has these? Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...
Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp Search mikrotik case You'll find three of them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hello, I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the RB493. We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493. Anyone remember who has these? Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...
On the Mikrotik site, under the Made for Mikrotik Page, there are a couple available Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:09 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Hello, I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the RB493. We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493. Anyone remember who has these? Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...
Yep, that's it. I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link is probably the easiest source. Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp Search mikrotik case You'll find three of them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hello, I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the RB493. We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493. Anyone remember who has these? Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...
Baltic is located in Chicago, not overseas. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Yep, that's it. I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link is probably the easiest source. Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp Search mikrotik case You'll find three of them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hello, I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the RB493. We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493. Anyone remember who has these? Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure...
Yah, yah, yahflog me, beat me...my mistake! lol The Baltic Networks name and logo were inspired by the Baltic Sea region in Eastern Europe. I skimmed this and incorrectly read this as they were overseas! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Baltic is located in Chicago, not overseas. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Yep, that's it. I found it at Baltic (overseas), but your StreakWave link is probably the easiest source. Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for MikroTik Routerboard Rack Mount Enclosure... Go to http://www.streakwave.com/searchresult.asp Search mikrotik case You'll find three of them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Hello, I think I remember someone posting information on a rack mount case for the RB493. We're looking for a low cost rack mount router and I think someone makes a rack mount enclosure for the RB493. Anyone remember who has these? Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom! These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Just put a call into DragonWave Support to ask about AirPair IF cable length limitations. It'll be interesting to see how well their call center system works as compared to actually getting a live tech when calling Trango... Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom! These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
I would think no BUT Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with an outdoor modem unit. The gain may be set real low and when you finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you may not work. Call tech support to find out for sure. It won't cost you anything and they will know for sure. Or send them an e-mail: supp...@dragonwaveinc.com Good Luck -B- Brad Belton wrote: Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom! These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety
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Thanks for the feedback Bob. I just emailed DragonWave Support as well. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... I would think no BUT Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with an outdoor modem unit. The gain may be set real low and when you finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you may not work. Call tech support to find out for sure. It won't cost you anything and they will know for sure. Or send them an e-mail: supp...@dragonwaveinc.com Good Luck -B- Brad Belton wrote: Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom! These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic
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Just FYI...DragonWave Support has contacted me and is already on the case. They promise an answer shortly. Certainly acceptable response time. Kudos to DragonWave! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Thanks for the feedback Bob. I just emailed DragonWave Support as well. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... I would think no BUT Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with an outdoor modem unit. The gain may be set real low and when you finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you may not work. Call tech support to find out for sure. It won't cost you anything and they will know for sure. Or send them an e-mail: supp...@dragonwaveinc.com Good Luck -B- Brad Belton wrote: Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom! These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up
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Hello Bob, DragonWave Support was very prompt and helpful. They confirmed the outdoor IDU is capable of the same IF cable lengths as the indoor IDU. However, both IDU style distances are ultimately limited by the firmware they are running. In my case about 202'. Just FYI if anyone else ever runs into this issue. Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Just FYI...DragonWave Support has contacted me and is already on the case. They promise an answer shortly. Certainly acceptable response time. Kudos to DragonWave! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Thanks for the feedback Bob. I just emailed DragonWave Support as well. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... I would think no BUT Keep in mind that they are expecting the cable length to be short with an outdoor modem unit. The gain may be set real low and when you finally go ahead and put 150 LMR400 in and increase the attenuation you may not work. Call tech support to find out for sure. It won't cost you anything and they will know for sure. Or send them an e-mail: supp...@dragonwaveinc.com Good Luck -B- Brad Belton wrote: Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom! These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other side. Thanks! Brad Belton BelWave Communications O: 817-737-3124 #101 F: 817-336-7031 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. Randy On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Randy, Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: Will the outdoor IDU be able to power operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? Thanks for the feedback! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + ethernet up on one cable. On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Hello Kristian, Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers some manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic field requirements. The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell
[WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... Thanks! Brad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: Hello, We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you get the latest firmware if you can. We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with prices on cable length options. The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. Something along the lines of this... http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for 5 Mb Ft Myers, FLA
Looking for 5 Mb wholesale via wireless in Ft Myers area. Anyone? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for BW on Mt. Vaca in Vacaville
Looking for 20mbps wholesale bandwidth from virtually any tower on Mt. Vaca to a colo. With or without IP. Thanks Sent Mobile Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for Orlando WISP
I'm looking for an Orlando WISP to help with Broadband for an event in early march. If interested Email me today with your contact info, and I'll get back to you within 24hours. This will be for a high capacity link for a day or two, and provided on a wholesale basis. I normally fly out and do these for a pre-defined rate. But I have a date conflict, and would prefer to refer it to a local, if compeitive. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I live in Orlando so no, I'm not planning a family vacation but Orlando is one of the more popular conference spots in the US due to it's tourism industry. It may not be for everybody, but having the option of doing business/pleasure in one trip is attractive to some. Sorry if you took offense. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping
[WISPA] Looking for Trango 5830int
I'm looking for used - working- Trango 5830INT subscribers. If you nave any that you may want to part with, please send qty and price off-line. Regards, Cliff WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for an iDirect Partner
Is anyone an iDirect Partner? I may have a lead. Contact me off-list. - Cliff WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for 2450 Advantage AP
We're doing a build-out here soon and looking for 2-2450 Motorola Advantage Access points. I thought I'd ask here, if anyone had a couple they wanted to get rid of. I like to keep business between other ISPs before I hit the vendors. Let me know! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking For Fiber
Anyone have or know about any fiber in Jeffersonville, Ohio? We can reach Time Warner but we already use them in the network and would like to use this to add another gateway. Thanks Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help
I didn't get a lot of bites on this so I'll as another question... Those of you using MT or similar, what antennas are you selecting for your tower APs for approximate 40-90 deg coverage per radio. I'd like to stay within those beam widths - less than 40 is not practical usually and more then 90 is too noisy for here. Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth horizontally. Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less. Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern. It would be nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus. Anyone know where I can find one of these? What are you all doing, external sector antennas? I hate to go back to running LMR again :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help
I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth horizontally. Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less. Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern. It would be nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus. Anyone know where I can find one of these? What are you all doing, external sector antennas? I hate to go back to running LMR again :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help
You can use a Pac or chinese DCE case and then attach a panel or sector to it (drill, bolts). On 7/31/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth horizontally. Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less. Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern. It would be nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus. Anyone know where I can find one of these? What are you all doing, external sector antennas? I hate to go back to running LMR again :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for antenna/enclosure - help
I've seen those posted on one of these lists. Exactly the same as trango. From the same manufacturer. I think they are in Israel. Can't remember the url or company, but I'm thinking it was an overseas wireless distributor that had them. Anyways, hope that helps. George Scott Carullo wrote: I'd like to find an antenna/case (like the arc wireless enclosure with antenna / rootenna / DCE-ANT cases etc..) that has a larger beamwidth horizontally. Most of the ones I have found are 22deg or less. Basically I'd like to emulate a Trango 5580ap antenna pattern. It would be nice to have a compact antenna/enclosure combo with a nice wide 60deg or so beamwidth and having dual polarity would be added bonus. Anyone know where I can find one of these? What are you all doing, external sector antennas? I hate to go back to running LMR again :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for service on Tonganoxie Rd, Leavenworth, KS 66048
Looking for service in this area: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2560+tonganoxie+rd+leavenworth,+ksie=UTF8split=0gl=usei=uvVASqz9JI_KsQOnrPyMCQll=39.236292,-94.978931spn=0.012199,0.019312t=hz=16iwloc=A Does anyone service this area outside of Leavenworth/Lansing? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
I have one link. I have taken if from the box and assembled it. But it's never been powered up Still have all 6 original boxes for it too. marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; w...@part-15.org; w...@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios Hello, I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com links on them at a point in the nearby past. I have the dishes that were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 models. My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or OC3 Pcom radios. Does anyone know of a good source for those radios? Please let me know. Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
Hello, I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com links on them at a point in the nearby past. I have the dishes that were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 models. My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or OC3 Pcom radios. Does anyone know of a good source for those radios? Please let me know. Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
I have 4 IDU's and 2 ODU's on 23Ghz if your interested. MSG me offlist. Ryan On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Hello, I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com links on them at a point in the nearby past. I have the dishes that were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 models. My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or OC3 Pcom radios. Does anyone know of a good source for those radios? Please let me know. Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
Try American Communications... they should be able to get a hold of them for you. Also get a hold of the guys over at Skybeam (I'm sure you love the use of that name ;-) Mesa has a bunch of P-Com links I think they are ripping out for Dragonwave... I can't recall if they were 23GHz, 18GHz, or possibly 38GHz Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:25 PM To: WISPA General List; w...@part-15.org; w...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios Hello, I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com links on them at a point in the nearby past. I have the dishes that were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 models. My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or OC3 Pcom radios. Does anyone know of a good source for those radios? Please let me know. Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
Good luck Matt. There is a ton of 38 GHz stuff out there but other nands are quite scarce Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:25:14 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; w...@part-15.org; w...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios Hello, I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com links on them at a point in the nearby past. I have the dishes that were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 models. My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or OC3 Pcom radios. Does anyone know of a good source for those radios? Please let me know. Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for P-COM DS3 radios
I have a complete link. Can't remember anything about it, other than it's -48VDC. 1' antennas, I believe. Maybe 23GHz? DS3. IDU and ODU. AFAIK, they work. Paid $500 for them. Make me and offer. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Hello, I just got access to a few towers that had working 18ghz and 23ghz P-Com links on them at a point in the nearby past. I have the dishes that were used for these links as well, but the Pcom radios were 4 and 8 T1 models. My understanding is that I can re-use the dishes with DS3 or OC3 Pcom radios. Does anyone know of a good source for those radios? Please let me know. Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
