$23,000?
i don't, mean to say anything against the fact checkers at wired but my
girlfriend interviewed the final stratch people two weeks ago for a new york
times story.
i can't remeber the exact price, but the software and converter box was around
$800.
maybe wired accidentally added a zero.
MOFOS?
D./
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From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: [313] I'm dreaming of a313 X Mas
ok...so i am going to be home for X-MAS for the first time in 3 years, and
was wondering if there is
ok...so i am going to be home for X-MAS for the first time in 3 years, and
was wondering if there is a planned 313 get together somewhere in tha D so
that i can party with some of you MOFO's??
thanks
jeff
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Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000?
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html
has the details
I would rather take my chances cutting dubs on the Kingston Dubplate Cutter.
www.mixmachines.com
They will probably be shipping in 6 months or so, and they are only $5000.
The new C-PIJ remixes of Two Lone Swordsmen's 'Tiny Reminders' 7. There's
a new Spiritualized LP out too.
Julee Cruise rocks
todd
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From: Peter Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: [313] techno-Indie/ Was Khan
23,000. wow, its almost insulting isn't it? I assume that includes a top
of the line laptop as well. how interesting. Amazing how software on
computers can do more and more, and its rapidly getting cheaper, yet this
tag is just SO high. I guess they'll be selling all of TEN of these
At 07:53 PM 10/23/2001, M. Todd Smith wrote:
Are you ready for the Final Scratch price tag of $23,000?
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,47398,00.html
has the details
usual fantastic reporting from wired.
http://www.finalscratch.com/
normal final scratch comes with the little box and the
go price a top end laptop loaded with ram and an big firewire disk
array and you have 1/2 the cost of that system.
At 21:18 23/10/2001 +, Jayson B. wrote:
23,000. wow, its almost insulting isn't it? I assume that includes a top
of the line laptop as well. how interesting. Amazing how
I guess it doesn't need as much system speed as I would have thought!
I wonder how much disk it has, though.
At 17:39 23/10/2001 -0400, Jeffrey Paul wrote:
normal final scratch comes with the little box and the two records and
some software. proFS comes with a 700mhz p3 vaio laptop running
supposedly there's gonna be a retail version that's a bit more affordable...
the first few (i forget how many) are intended for superstar djs that just
can't wait we'll all be able to afford it in time...
Christian Bloch
http://mp3.com/bloch
http://www.mp313.com/christianbloch.htm
i remember around the time of DEMF 2001, there was a
whole lot of talk about a club being opened up by
kevin, derrick, carl, and kenny. has anyone heard
anything else about the development, construction, or
even collapse of the idea?
-sam
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From: Peter Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:37 PM
Subject: [313] techno-Indie/ Was Khan
Since these threads are wandering from techno towards Indie Rock, Was
wondering what you all think of the Vincent Gallo album
New Fridge is quite nice. Last Kreidler was excellent.
New Posthuman is VERY nice - everything I like about SKAM packaged up in
The Uncertainty of the Monkey (on Seed, I think.)
jeff
Since these threads are wandering from techno towards Indie Rock...
Just picked up the new O'Brien on Peacefrog, and it's quite nice. Very
dreamy/whooshy in spots.
I was initially concerned about the Metheny and Weather Report remakes, but
they're not really offensive, and if it makes more people search the
originals, then all the better.
Weather Report's
Bjork - Vespertine
Lali Puna - Scary World theory
Lali Puna - Tridecoder
Turner - Disappearing Brother
Piano Magic - Artist's Rifles
Tortoise - Standards
Telefon Tel Aviv - Fahrenheit Fair Enough
310 - After All
Also, on this jazz thread, no one has mentioned the other field of
electronic/jazz
hmm..I remember talk of this club about 2-3 years
prior to 2001. Rumor had it they were going to take
that nice brick building in Eastern Market (sorry the
street corner escapes me)-I think it was an old
firehouse??. Rumor had it downstairs was going to be a
eatery and upstairs a club.
Dale, i thought it was Blashpemy when you did a live pa at demf and all
you did was play pre recorded stuff off dat.
nobody said *gasp* oh no technology is threadening my livelihood. from
what ive seen mixing off computer is lame. just like when your supossed to
play and all you do is hit
i live in detroit. my schedule is pretty packed but i can probably hang too
- joel
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ok...so i am going to be
This is especiallly interesting as BE as a company does not exist anymore.
Their stock and all their technology was purchased by Pilot a couple months
ago for about 11 million.
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Ah yes.
It takes quite a bit to stir me from my lurker-slumber. But you can pat
yourself on the back, Mr. Burns - you got me here.
Your post was so asinine and without merit that I can honestly say that you
sir... you are a putz of the greatest magnitude. Being a guest to many a
performance of
Yes, playing off of DAT *is* blasphemy, and
that's why I would never consider it.
That is one of the most inaccurate things I've
ever seen written about me and now I am going
to tell you why:
1) I've
I would like to state that i totally agree with dale, and he made a very
mature and solid arguement in this post.
If you knew anything about Plus 8 artists,
you would know that every single Live P.A.
by any Plus 8 artist, anywhere, was 100%
-- In an interview with Richie in August he told me that they were going to
try to get the basic version on the market for around 500$.
J
i think i also remember seeing on their site somewhere that they hope to
sell the normal final scratch (software, two records, and the little usb
dongle
I read an interview with Richie Hawtin on Final Scratch in Urb and it states
that Jeff Mills and John Digweed have signed on for prototypes. I would love
to see how Mills uses it just as I have seen his DJ sets a few times in
different environments and he always intrigues me (alas, only seen
Yeah, that's true, Richie also states that in the Urb feature, I believe.
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 6:51 PM
-- In an interview with
Does anybody know of any online interviews with/features on Miss Kitten
and/or The Hacker? Except for the one up at PHinnweb.
Their new album rocks! And they are performing in Belgium next Friday...
John
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MAKING - SOUND
The Relevance of Space in Aural Experience
Making Automatic Instruments
Frank Pahl Richard Devine
November 9, 20011:30 - 4:30 p.m
here's a question: why do so few live pa's do this? Of the ones that i've
seen that actually *do* play live, i still see many of them with fully
sequenced songs. the only thing they do is is twiddle a few knobs. I mean,
if you're not going to play that way, why not play off of dat?
I just saw Devine here in NYC not too long ago with
Phonesia. It was an incredible performance, I highly
suggest going.
d
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MAKING - SOUND
The Relevance of Space in Aural Experience
Just picked up the new O'Brien on Peacefrog, and it's quite nice. Very
dreamy/whooshy in spots.
it IS rather nice. i think the album could have been sequenced better,
but
the tracks
are spotless. once again IOB really hits home with a truly amazing
album.
I was initially
But there's nothing wrong with playing off of a laptop either ;) Instead of
all the sound modules being external, you have them on your laptop as
software. So for example you could have a nice tc electronic reverb plug-in
for effects, native instruments battery as your drum machine, reaktor as
Weird to dream 'bout that but if then...
Id like to hear Jaguar played by a big orchestra: 100 violins and and and
. niiice and touchy I think
Everyone should then remember me :)
All the best,
Ess
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This puts the audience much more in the dark in terms of what is actually
happening on stage but it's just as live nonetheless (and easier to
setup!).
see, and this is something i actually disagree with. I think it is *very*
important for the audience to recieve visual cues to the music.
I've posted this topic on my site, and a visiting DJ has made
a Good Mourning mix.
Check it out at
http://www.student.kun.nl/bobvanhoove/music/dr_bob_-_good_mourning.wma
Other suggestions I liked : Beaucoup Worms, Underworld;
Clubbed To Death; Portrait of a dead girl.
Gery
True, the only indication i had during Todd Sines' live pa that he was
changing something up on his laptop was when he started wiggling his ass and
bobbing his head ... and he was doing a lot of that!
Maybe bigger and better cooler looking external controllers are the way
forward since it solves
Anyone heard his new full-length?
Comparisons to Maddkatt Courtship's I Know Elektrikboy?
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Best album of the year IMHO. A delightfull return to 80ies sounds, song
structures, warm, ananlogue, raw, you named it's got it. It's a very nice
collaboration between Felix and Miss Kittin. The new album of Miss Kitten
The Hacker is in the same sleazy 80ies style and what do you guess, it's
or maybe its the fact
that as live artists we just haven't given the crowd what they want.
any
ideas?
last year titonton did.
ryan
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True, the only indication i had during Todd Sines' live pa that he was
changing something up on his laptop was when he started wiggling his ass
and
bobbing his head ... and he was doing a lot of that!
Maybe bigger and better cooler looking external controllers are the way
forward since it
For me , a techno live show would me djing my own records.
I am a producer and a DJ, I am not a performer. One of the reasons that led
me to techno and house production was that performing skills didn't
influence the music as much as in other styles (same thing happens with
image, and I think
Yikes!!! Less skill than pop huh? (or opera ) ...
..
In other words, good thing about electronic music is that it comes from your
heart and your mind right to the computer, with much less skill involved
than, let's say, opera or pop.
so. To perform live I have to put everything in the
so. To perform live I have to put everything in the computer (I'm not
moving
my whole studio) and the result is much worse than the original.
WHY DO IT THEN ?
That's my point, the reason a lot of electronic music producers do lives is
because people are used to go see live artists, and they
The Kooky Scientist
a/k/a the Rodney Dangerfield of electronic music
that rerminds me, does anyone know wich PLUS8 release was
kooky scientist - ram bunctions ?
And do you know any online store that has this records still in stock?
Thanks,
Maarten
For that matter, where can one find _any_ Fred Gianelli productions under
any guise? I'd be happy to extend my collection. :)
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From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:56 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] ram bunctions
That's my point, the reason a lot of electronic music producers do
lives is because people are used to go see live artists, and they expect
performing skills.
People, in general, also expect the 'look' of someone performing (ie.
strumming the strings of a guitar, pressing down on the keys of
http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?RecordedMediaID=62428
Someone sampled the hell out of Strings of Life. I hope they have a good
hiding place.
MEK
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Oh my god, they also ripped off Souxie The Banshees
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that rerminds me, does anyone know wich PLUS8 release was
kooky scientist - ram bunctions ?
And do you know any online store that has this records still in stock?
Don't know where to pick up a copy, but you can find realaudio files
of the whole catalog here:
dudes i am off to berlin soon,can u give me some record shops that sell
techno there?
(other that hardwax).
y.
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sampled? sounds like they just multitracked it in! :)
At 5:10 PM + 10/24/01, M Elliot-Knight wrote:
http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?RecordedMediaID=62428
Someone sampled the hell out of Strings of Life. I hope they have a
good hiding place.
MEK
hi sam.
groovetech did the same to my computer- i had to re-install windows.
y/
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:43 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge
Oops...
I think i crashed groovetech:^)
you mean as good a hiding place as the people who sampled the crap out of e2 e4?
james
www.jbucknell.com
M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/24/2001 01:10:13 PM
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Subject: [313] Strings of Life redoodoo
Look at it like this...Stewart's live set was so bad ass (and it usually
is), they thought he was spinnin'. =)
G.
Grammenos, Peter wrote:
But there's nothing wrong with playing off of a laptop either ;) Instead of
all the sound modules being external, you have them on your laptop as
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