we don't have high priced hookers in detroit. we only have $20.00/s & f ones.
they don't snort coke either. they smoke crack. ;-)
"::\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>does "fringe-benefits" mean all the coke you can snort off the nipples of
>high priced detroit hookers?
>
>because if so, :P
>-Joe
well i dont like the term future music because all music made today is not
futuristic, its music made with the gears we have now, so it is not
futuristic. music that sound modern to me is the experimental things, even
in techno. i think the best exemple of what im saying is Yunx. this guy (or
it is
does "fringe-benefits" mean all the coke you can snort off the nipples of
high priced detroit hookers?
because if so, :P
-Joe
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From: "arsdigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: (313) Looking for a local
To me, P-Funk and Model 500 still sounds futuristic . . . futurism
is an attitude, not a production technique.
Off the top of my head, futurism means to me:
"e2-e4" Manuel Göttsching
"Inspiration" Mad Mike
"Night Drive" Model 500
"Let's Go To Mars" Daniel Wang
"Ultraism/Paradisiac" Splinterfactio
I'll attempt to explain without breaking the list rules...
I represent a group of local Detroit artists who are starting a web
community to promote the arts & entertainment of the city.
One area where we fall short is someone w/ an intimate knowledge of the D
techno scene.
Primarily, what we need
yes, I can testify to the appeal of jazz when makign and performing
electronic music all the time
I like how the timing is so free, whereas electronic music is typically
robotic in its timing due to its electronic origin.
thank you for tuning in.
-Joe
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From: "Kent wil
Not that unusual though. Between producing techno, performing it, DJ'ing,
and listening to other DJs while you're waiting to get paid, I think many
producers get their fill and look elsewhere for leisure listening.
I've heard this from more than one techno producer. Jazz is popular, as
is classic
You know something... I have that debate with Chris Gray (Deep4Life)
somewhat often, usually in jest, but sometimes I start to think he might be
on to something. Usually, the forward thinkers I find are more minimal
techno/microsound cats(my opinion only!) or deep house cats (like Chris).
Granted,
IMO detroit sound is sounding very old whereas the eastern europe stuff is
fresh sounding all the time.
the germans certainly know where its at.
no flames please
-Joe
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: (31
It's essay time!
I was just reading a review of 808 State and Underworld's new releases and
the writers were saying that , as in the 808 State review, "-when you've
sounded like the future for so long, what happens when the rest of the
world catches up?"
Not saying that either of these bands are f
man it is amazing the fact that techno is not an important style on morgan
geist home listening. this really surprised my. how can he touch the souls
of techno lovers so much without having this influence..
what a surprise..
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From: "Hans Veneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
who is distributing the metro area LP??? theres a record shop in londom
called go ahead london... is there anywhere i can get it in the us and not
pay import pricing???
ryan burns
anyone who knows please hit me up asap.
_
Cha
was late mr. Stinson behind Japanese Telecom guise?
i was just listening to "Virtual Geisha". excelent album!
regards
ivan
--
Online now at TechnoTourist.org, an interview with Morgan Geist &
Darshan Jesrani, AKA Metro Area. You can read the interview here ->
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index
&req=viewarticle&artid=18
Other recent articles on TechnoTourist.org:
Andy Vaz interview
>> Industrial - Skinny Puppy
>
> front 242 beat skinny puppy by about two years; they started back in '81
> and 'puppy around '83.
And Throbbing Gristle preceded them all, of course.
- Greg (who hears Cabaret Voltaire, DAF, "I Feel Love" and
"Home Computer" whenever he h
You mean "Jungle DJ", not the other way around... ;)
I have it, but it seemed to me to be a fairly ordinary Disco record of its
time. Maybe I should have another listen.
Anyone have "Techno Talk" by Overdrive from 1980, I believe? It was popular
in Chicago, in its day (at least so I've been told,
VOICES
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9.30pm-2.30am, *FREE ENTRY*
The power of Voices brings the dancers together
- to sing, scream, clap their hands, or simply close
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and DJ Alex (Attica Blues Allstars) bring you deep
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Brendan Nelson wrote on Fri, 11 Oct 2002 about following:
> Ah, but tracks like "blue room" and "perpetual dawn" have only a tenuous
> link with techno music - they're more like ambient dub. (I used to work in
for me ambient is usually music with no beats or relatively quiet beats;
blue room ac
Right ... (he says, realization dawning) and 'Quadrant' was von Oswald,
Craig and Ernesto?
Sorry to be the dork - but is it still available?
Brendan, you're descriptions are spot. You obviously think abt your music a
lot. As for me, I spend my time grasping for words to describe what I'd
think (i
oh ... sorry for my misunderstanding.
-d
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Steve Teeri wrote:
> The Jim Ingram record is by Thomas Brinkman.
>
> http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/ingram.jim.html
>
>
> Original message
> >Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:51:34 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PR
Süd Electronic Exchange:
A live event for new electronic music from Süd in association with Süd's
first release 'Portable Gridshift'.
Portable + Sutekh live
With dj sets from Lakuti and Jonathon of Soul Jazz Records.
31 10 02 @ Plastic People, 147-149 Curtain Road, London EC2; nearest tube
Old
Ah, but tracks like "blue room" and "perpetual dawn" have only a tenuous
link with techno music - they're more like ambient dub. (I used to work in
London's only specialist ambient record shop, so I can be a bit of a
trainspotter when it comes to the UK ambient scene of the late 80s/early
90s!)
So
Well, that's where I drew the line --- where Detroit's stuff stopped
sounding like "Detroit House" ... or some splinter of the Chicago sound.
-d
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I guess its always going to be open to debate, though for me the early Modell
> 500 stuff has more in
the black power quote is on a DaimlerChrysler commemorative 12"?
-d
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Matthew Mangold wrote:
> The 12" in question is by Jim Ingram. I believe the EP is called 'Vision to
> Vison', and has a pic of Jurgen Schrempf and Bob Eaton, the CEOs behind the
> Diamler-Chrysler merger o
Sorry to be slightly of topic but anyone heard the new Question 9?
I have to say I am very impressed by Carola's work on this one..a cheeky
take from Inner city me thinks :)
sorry but I just had to express my opion on that one..
Oh and UR040 just picked up..two nice tunes from that camp of excel
yes I was lucky enough to get a promo of that.
Check the website for more information.
www.beatdownsounds.com
Scott McGill
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:55 AM
Subject: (313) Detroit Beatdown
> Memo from Alex Bond
Odeluga, Ken wrote on Fri, 11 Oct 2002 about following:
> Ok. That would make sense, given that the Orb collected a couple of obscure
> von Oswald tracks for one of their comps in '96 I think but what Orb
> records are you thinking of in particular?
most of the stuff they did is more ambient
> or it would be a cybotron .. liek "clear" ...
> or "a numer of names - sharivari"
>
> both ´82
Alleys of Your Mind came out in '81...
> -Original Message-
> From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:41 PM
> To: henrique casanova; 313@hyperreal.
Ok. That would make sense, given that the Orb collected a couple of obscure
von Oswald tracks for one of their comps in '96 I think but what Orb
records are you thinking of in particular?
k
>-Original Message-
>From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, October 11
Veering dangerouly off topic - wasn't there a bit of controversy over
the fact that the lyrics had been bought off someone - cant remember the
name - oh yes I can cassanova fly (in facy there is even a bit which
goes 'im the C-A-S an the O-V-A and the rest is F-L-Y' which they never
even bothered
Odeluga, Ken wrote on Fri, 11 Oct 2002 about following:
> ... so no one thinks the early Basic Channel tracks were a definitive
> beginning of a dub/techno hybrid?
just a quick note that the orb has been doing this
ambient/house/techno/dub -hybrid for a long time. (even before BC).
sakke
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I do think that the Basic Channel records were the definitive beginning of
the techno-dub hybrid, but I often find myself trying to think of earlier
tracks that combine that "stillness" (I know what you mean about the English
vocabulary being insufficient to describe in detail the effects that sort
Brendan - sounds like you were thinking abt this before I asked!
... so no one thinks the early Basic Channel tracks were a definitive
beginning of a dub/techno hybrid?
For me, whilst something like 'Lyot's got the sea of reverb, it just hasn't
got the 'stillness' (best word I can think of right
> I use the Sennheiser HD-25SPs, and the only complaint I have is the
> aforementioned tangling of the wire leading to each earpiece. $99.00 from
> ProSound. Extremely lightweight, and excellent sound.
i have two pairs of these (one pair 8 years old) and it is a relatively
trivial mod to have bot
Rapper's Delight was only the frist Rap 12" to hit the top 40 it wasn't the
first at all.
Trevor Wilkes
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From: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:52 AM
Subject: RE: (313) what was the first techno record
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
Start of message text
Morning Ladies and Gents.
Bored at work this morning..
Picked up a copy of the new "Detroit Beatdown Sounds" Compilation
yesterday.
There's some good tracks on there, a couple b
Anyone got kikrokos dj jungle. Strange disco wierdness then out of
the blue comes a couple of minutes of pure techno bliss...
I think k alexi sampled it in risque madness... From around 1977 I think
> First techno record?
>
> "Kristallo" by Kraftwerk. I'm not sure what LP it is on, but
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
Start of message text
Alright, I'll bite
Dub - techno? Never heard of it, but it has to be Eddy Grant's 'Timewarp'
surely...? (1981)
"Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/10/2002 09:28:48
Please
Good question! I always view the starting point of that strand of music as
being Quadrant's "Infinition" on Planet E, but for reasons I would find hard
to back up in an argument R-Tyme's "Illusion" often sounds like a dub-techno
record to me.
Why? Well, practically every early techno record was pr
>>Industrial - Skinny Puppy
not by about 10 years! - try Throbbing Gristle c 1975, Cabaret Voltaire
1977, Suicide 1974 ?
Unless you are refering to "industrial dance" But I still think you'd be wrong
Ian Andrews
Metro Screen
Sydney
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.metroscreen.com.au
Metro
First techno record?
"Kristallo" by Kraftwerk. I'm not sure what LP it is on, but it dates from
1971-73. Whilst not produced strictly as a "techno" release, it has all the
proper qualities required. Staying on a teutonic tip, Can's "Chain
Reaction", released in 1974 on "Soon over Babaluma" is mo
> >Hip Hop / Rap - Grand Master Flash
wasn't sugarhill gangs 'rappers delight' released sometime around '77..
> >Industrial - Skinny Puppy
front 242 beat skinny puppy by about two years; they started back in '81
and 'puppy around '83.
sakke
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random rants and links at:
http://www.arabuusim
I guess its always going to be open to debate, though for me the early Modell
500 stuff has more in common with Kraftwerk and Electro than Derrick May's
early music. When I think of the earliest techno that really strated to forge a
sound all of its own I personally think of Rhythim is Rhythim.
Got any titles in mind for the Ambient/Dub sub-section?
Sorry to get all pin-point narrow but folk were dismaying at how impossibly
broad it was to define this area!
k
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>From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:11 AM
>To: '[EMAIL PR
here is what I know, or consider to be the start...
Acid House - Phuture
Ambient/Dub - Brian Eno
Techno - Kraftwerk
Hip Hop / Rap - Grand Master Flash
Drum and Bass/Jungle - Grooverider (playing carl craig at 45)
Industrial - Skinny Puppy
OK, how abt a more specific question: What was the first 'Dub-techno'
record? (Deliberately vague.)
I'm *not* assuming Mortiz von Oswald was involved either!
Ken
Audax:
>I completely agree on all of your points, and I wont post about it
>again. Its something I will look into doing when I have t
Yep Tristan, I too would recommend anything which Guy and Brendan do as
they're a solid set of dudes who will consequently make a nice party
atmosphere, although their style mostly isn't for me.
But wait, where's you're regular review of System? :o)
Is Mark Broom still standing out from a plain o
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Jason wrote:
> Most certainly Sharivari is the first techno record from detroit. It
> preceded Alleys of your Mind by Cybotron by at least six months in release.
>
> Some techno heads would argue that kraftwerk was the first to produce
> techno, but from detroit it is A Numbe
I use the Sennheiser HD-25SPs, and the only complaint I have is the
aforementioned tangling of the wire leading to each earpiece. $99.00 from
ProSound. Extremely lightweight, and excellent sound.
Matthew
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From: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October
hey i just put up this page for my friend with his dj mix on it.
harder techno but some people might like it here
http://www.deafmosaic.com
tracklist is:
Gunjack Fall '02 DJ Mix
1. Intro
2. Regis - "Penetration" - (Downwards)
3. Paul Mac - "Breakthrough" - (Hardcell remix) - (Stimulus)
4. Uti
Here's the scoop on "which was first":
http://www.techno-rebels.com/ANON.html
So "Alleys of Your Mind" was released first, but both that and
Charivari had been made quite a while before and both had some
exposure in the party scene.
I think the proper explanation is that BOTH were first. In
oth
This month's mix is by listmember Christian Bloch. Go to the website at
http://threeonethree.com and grab the full length 128K mp3, then go to your
local record store and check out some of his recent 12"s.
The 12" in question is by Jim Ingram. I believe the EP is called 'Vision to
Vison', and has a pic of Jurgen Schrempf and Bob Eaton, the CEOs behind the
Diamler-Chrysler merger on one side. I have one copy left at Melodies and
Memories-- I believe its 9.99US.
Matthew
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Fro
Test. Please Delete.
well and who are the artists behind Sharivari and Cybotron. people say Juan
Atkins is the "creator". is it him?
Most certainly Sharivari is the first techno record from detroit. It
preceded Alleys of your Mind by Cybotron by at least six months in release.
Some techno heads would argue that kraftwerk was the first to produce
techno, but from detroit it is A Number of Names with Sharivari.
Regards, Dr. Att
there were artists in the early to mid 70s that used the word "techno" to
describe their musics... I will look up for record for sure, but I know its
some spacerock comp I have
-Joe
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From: "Neontsetse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "L
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