Re[2]: (313) Kraftwerk in Koln - plylst review (spoilers!) LONG

2004-04-05 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
7 please do me a favour and re-listen to expo 2000/planet of vision. Yeah, it's definitely so electric. Some great rimixes on that expo 2000 disc also, by Rolando and UR, among others. -- Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno

RE: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread J. T.
i-f is a no-go.. _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlbpgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/

RE: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread J. T.
i should add as far as i hear.. ...if true, i'm still hoping he changes his mind... marco passarani half of mat101 will be doing a little usa tour in mid-may..would be some nice additions to the lineup! i-f is a no-go.. _

RE: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.
i wonder if hes just playing a party outside the festival? hm. :) derek. On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, J. T. wrote: i-f is a no-go.. _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN

(313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Katrin Richter
I guess this is on topic as school was the only place to hook up for Derrick, Kevin and Juan as there was nowhere else to go Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs By Jerry Isaacs 3 April 2004 Use this version to print | Send this link by email | Email the author Detroit Public Schools officials

RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread iancheshire
so the simple thing is to invest :) I know we all have a soft spot for Detroit and so I am be a little biased here but is it me or is detroit picked on? I think they should if they ae doing cut backs, use the money to invest in the city not make matters worse.. -Original

(313) Scion/Moritz Von Oswald in London

2004-04-05 Thread alex . bond
Hi. Did anyone see Scion on Friday? or Moritz Von Oswald Sunday night? How was it?? Dying to know. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their

Re: (313) Scion/Moritz Von Oswald in London

2004-04-05 Thread Tom Churchill
Did anyone see Scion on Friday? or Moritz Von Oswald Sunday night? I went to see Rhythm Sound and Paul St Hilaire (the artist formerly known as Tikiman) in Glasgow on Friday. The event was held at the WInter Gardens on Glasgow Green - an enormous glass conservatory filled with exotic

AW: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Katrin Richter
Well, I guess this says it all: Ninety percent of the remaining students are African-American, with more than 7 out of 10 students coming from families living below the official poverty level. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag,

RE: (313) Scion/Moritz Von Oswald in London

2004-04-05 Thread Brendan Nelson
Scion were breathtaking. Despite a less-than-perfect sound rig which didn't emphasise the extreme bottom- and top-end as much as I'd have liked, they sounded amazing. They were like electronic chefs creating a Basic Channel soup using such tasty ingredients as Infinition, Phylyps Track,

RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread iancheshire
yep true and sad -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 05/04/2004 10:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: AW: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread diana potts
As someone who is from detroit and getting ready to enter the teacher work force this cuts deep. I'm glad this was posted to the list-I think it adds some more dimension to a city that is just referred to here in a techno context. I'm also glad to see the article mentioned the no child left

Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
I wonder if they would have mentioned such stats if the 90% had been WASP, this sh*t really gets my goat... 5/4/04 10:07 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk yep true and sad -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 05/04/2004 10:56 To:

Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread diana potts
I think the part of the sentance that really matters is that most families come from below poverty level. There's many schools across the country (in very rural parts) where the kids are white and the same thing occurs. When a child comes from a low socioeconomic household you're dealing with a

(313) danny wang interview

2004-04-05 Thread robin
ok slightly off-topic but interesting. http://www.family-house.net/danielwang.html robin... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.647 / Virus Database: 414 - Release Date: 29/03/2004

Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
Maybe, it's just the whole way language is used - long weekend talking about such stuff but I won't bore you with it :/ When a child comes from a low socio-economic household you're dealing with a lot of diff't cards both academically for a child and also in terms of school financial support.

RE: (313) Scion/Moritz Von Oswald in London

2004-04-05 Thread alex . bond
thanks for all the reports, much appreciated. sounds like it was great (Glasgow London) alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual,

RE: (313) danny wang interview

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew
Really great intereview!! Highly recommended just to hear what he says about stuff, a very switched on dude. Thanks Robin :-) Andrew -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2004 12:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) danny wang interview ok

RE: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread ulysses
That would be surprising, since he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again, though the point may be moot, since he's supposedly stopped DJing entirely to focus on other things e Subject: RE: (313) Movement line-up Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i wonder if hes just

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread ubergirl
Things are not good with respect to education in the US. There have been issues always, sure, (as with any system) but it's gotten much worse in recent years. It's quite depressing to see the government make budget cuts by nicking off vital social services (schools, trash removal, fireman,

(313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again Did he state for what reason? This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many other list members have heard artists say this. US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live elsewhere because they

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Relating this to the music - I can only wonder what kind of sounds we'll hear coming from those who grow up live in these conditions. gun shots? the sound of jail cells filling up? the sound of babies crying? just some of my guesses MEK

RE: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Scott K Ellis
Relating this to music, I personally fear that the DPS radio station will be forced to make drastic cuts in staff and programming. This is probably one of the few stations in the country to have a daily house show from 4-6p with guest DJs 3 days a week--folks like T. Parker, Rick Wilhite, Minx, Al

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread ubergirl
hmmm ... I should have been more explicit ... what I was thinking about was the idea of creative beautiful things emerging from crappy, disadvantaged or difficult situations. why that is, I'm not sure. but it seems to be a theme. lisa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
I would agree, just because you have nothing doesn't mean a life of crack and whack awaits... 5/4/04 3:36 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@optonline.net hmmm ... I should have been more explicit ... what I was thinking about was the idea of creative beautiful things emerging from crappy, disadvantaged

(313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread ulysses
Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about. I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;) e he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again Did he state for what reason?

RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Steward, Tim
I also disagree - because a record label is responsible for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose to promote themselves in this market how do they expect people to know what they are about or trying to do.. I'm just one of the

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Kent williams
Keep in mind that the 'big 3' in techno met up in high school out in Belleville, which is pretty suburban. Life in inner city Detroit is pretty desparate, and despite the positive changes to the city in the past few years, life is NOT getting better for a lot of Detroit residents. The cuts to the

(313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
yep - I've heard that from artists around the world - including those from the US that seems to be the #1 reason for not playing in the US - we don't get it frustrating MEK

Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread robin
yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere. anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks us disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness too) robin... Steward, Tim wrote:

AW: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread ko broken electronica industries
hi, just for the records, marco passarani is not part of mat101. mat101 are the guys from jollymusic, Francesco De Bellis and Mario Pierro. best, derb - i should add as far as i hear.. ...if true, i'm still hoping he changes his mind... marco passarani half of mat101 will be doing a

RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the States, to gigs where no one came to? You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on the basis that they are at least gonna be worth your while It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US)

RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Steward, Tim
So true, but if the proper promotion is done for the gig upfront, the crowd would be there. either way the artist makes his/her money regardless.. and maybe it's just me, but if I'm spinning I am going to put my all into it even it's only 25 people at the gig, those 25 will remember the night...

Re: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread Allen Goodman
Nah - that would be way too predictable. On Apr 5, 2004, at 4:37 AM, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: i wonder if hes just playing a party outside the festival? hm. :) derek. On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, J. T. wrote: i-f is a no-go..

Re: (313) Movement line-up

2004-04-05 Thread Allen Goodman
I-F says he's quitting every 6 months. I would take whatever the man says with a grain of salt. On Apr 5, 2004, at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be surprising, since he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again, though the point may be moot, since he's

RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Ok so why is it that nobody comes? is it that there isn't radio play? how often do you hear I-F on the radio in the UK or Europe? Even in Holland? (I'd like to know actually) I try to listen to radio stations (online) from other countries but most of what I hear is the same kind of pop sh*t

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Dave Clarke says it too. It's really tough getting into the US now even for a holiday. They are not just suss on potential terrorists but foreign media, DJs, producers, even with visas. They're introducing fingerprinting for *all* tourists come Sept even from so called friendly nations. I

(313) Transmat getting new look

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
some changes to the Transmat website http://www.transmat.com/flash.html and http://www.derrickmay.com/ MEK

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Dennis DeSantis
Cyclone Wehner wrote: I have heard a lot of international DJs say the current climate in the US is offputting. You'll find a lot of domestic DJs saying the same thing. I don't think the recent/continuing mass exodus to Berlin is entirely career-motivated. -- Dennis DeSantis

RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread matt kane's brain
At 01:16 PM 4/5/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is the US still stuck in the rave mentality? kinda yeah. doesn't matter what kind of music it might be - seems like DJs = rave Actually, when my friends and I try to throw parties we have to book a room full of commercial hip hop DJs or

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread alugo
You can take it further than that..in the 80's Belleville was considered the country around here. Growing up in Detroit the suburbs were places like Southfield, Troy, the Grosse Pointes, Dearborn, etc. The removal of manufacturing plants from this area, as well as the onset of crack in the

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Pete Grammenos
There's a long standing joke about the same 20 people coming out to hear fill in your fav techno dj here play in NYC ;( It's even been written in the village voice, so sad. What makes it so sad is that it's so very true... and getting worse because some of the 20 have moved to Berlin. -p

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
No doubt. I always love visiting the US though. Or maybe people are just in a state of flux. There's also a lot of Brits and others heading to Berlin, like Ewan Pearson. Also people going to Spain (Christian Smith, Cristian Vogel, Funk D'Void, etc). Carl Cox has been over here and telling

Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Dennis DeSantis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still trying to figure out what good casinos are doing in the city if THEY can't use that money to stop something like the elimination of teachers from happening. a shame.. Amen. I remember when the folks pitching the casinos had this brilliantly focused

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I think that's one very good reason that artists from outside the US don't play in the US but what about the American artists who don't play in the US? or play here so very little or move away because they don't get the gigs I have a friend who moved to the UK recently because he was getting

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relating this to the music - I can only wonder what kind of sounds we'll hear coming from those who grow up live in these conditions. gun shots? the sound of jail cells filling up? the sound of babies crying? just some of my guesses What sounds

Re: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread ddonohue
The same day that they announced the cutting of the jobs, they also announced in the free press (www.freep.com) the allotment of 35 million dollars to cleanup the city (road projects) for the 2005 all star game, and the 2006 superbowl. I think the main thinking behind this, is that it can help

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I think there is a downturn everywhere at the moment. I think that the same problems have occurred here to some extent - mind the promoters need more capital behind them. We get media support but not the numbers. It's hard to account for the lethargy. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

(313) Funk D'Void

2004-04-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Funk D'Void is playing Melb this week, albeit same night as David Guetta. Is he good as a DJ? New album Freak Volume has some nice Detroit inspired vibes. The track Emotional Content has to be the winner!

Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I've been looking over this website and they appear to take a pretty solid stance against the No Child Left Behind legislation and the affects it is having and will have http://nochildleft.com/

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread ulysses
Actually, Dave Clarke doesn't play in the US because he charges $10,000 for a gig. Nobody is worth that much money. ;) e Dave Clarke says it too. It's really tough getting into the US now even for a holiday. They are not just suss on potential terrorists but foreign media, DJs, producers,

RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)

2004-04-05 Thread ulysses
I actually got about 700 people to come see I-F play in New York. I think that might have been worth his time. Besides, he's not getting offers to play here every weekend, only about once a year. My heart bleeds for him. e Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was

RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs

2004-04-05 Thread Scott K Ellis
I think the more obvious answer to this puzzle lies in who will benefit from the 35 million. Suburban law-makers are willing to help Detroit if they get something out of it in terms of contracts and a big urban playground for sports, clubs, condos, etc. If it's just money for helping city kids

RE: (313) Funk D'Void

2004-04-05 Thread ian cheshire
I really like his stuff and also some of it I don't like but I have heard him on the annie nightingale show a year ago and was very impressed by is mixing and track selection, he knows how to build it up.. but then a friend of mine booked him for germany and he played the hardest techno you can

(313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday

2004-04-05 Thread ian cheshire
Well what can I say but the man sure knows his gadgets and as the sets were all recorded I hope to get these up (with his permission) sometime in the next 2 weeks. He used Ableton Live and the MXF Pioneer to amazing effect, dropping new/old/quirky tracks whislt using the sampling of like doctor

Re: (313) No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)

2004-04-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Sometimes people charge hefty amounts for other reasons. Like they're saying, I don't really wanna play there... I don't know what his reasons are. But he's playing Hobart, Tasmania, and there's no way they'd have that money. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:

RE: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday

2004-04-05 Thread ian cheshire
alex? u mean Ian :) Radio: It's been a while since you heard from me, but there's good reason!!! Firstly, Wednesday 7th April brings Detroits' one and only: CLAUDE YOUNG ..to Locked Grooves on Proton Radio. Expect the unexpected Claude is joined by your hosts Lee Bolton and myself.

Re: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday

2004-04-05 Thread Lee Bolton
Thanks for posting that up Ian. We're very excited to be broadcasting this mix from Claude. - Original Message - From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: RE: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in

(313) tonight in chicago

2004-04-05 Thread Ken Meier
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(313) Pump up the Volume

2004-04-05 Thread Minto George
great documentary! check it out! posted on the deep house page. also vol. 2 3...sit back and grab a bag of popcorn and enjoy, minto http://deephousepage.com/pumpupthevolume.ram http://www.mattladner.com/putv/pumpupthevolume2.rm http://www.mattladner.com/putv/pumpupthevolume3.rm = down

Re: (313) Claude Young and MXF Pioneer in Berlin last Saturday

2004-04-05 Thread Deep Sea Dweller
first off its not Pioneer that makes that fader box your talking about.its called the MXF8 made by Grexultra...the same people who made the infamous Notron. Ben Long and Paula Temple were the first to use this new piece and Claude saw it and wanted production model #1 They are still kinda