-- Original Message --
From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts
detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how
many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um
yeah.
sell outs, each and every one of
Seriously rocked it on Saturday at fabric,
Seen RNG a couple times but never octave one; and it was superb.
Convinced some friends who had never heard of them to come along and they
where completely blown away.
Obviously when they played Blackwater they all said they made this?
hh
I
You have your chance to meet a great majority of the 313 list every May in
Detroit!
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Renegade808 wrote:
live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313
people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is
that for expensive (i
Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite
parties.
DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS
sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda lamei
live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313
people i would have to
i think this just furthers my notion that all
stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it
out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the
sexual tension overwith already and just go for it.
Why not have both at the same time!! Call 319-721-5364 for a good
time! Operator is
I havent had the chance to see RNG live, but their segment in mills DVD
was hot as hell. It was in the purpose maker mix, far and away my
favorite set jeff spun on the DVD. merci! bravo!
On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, at 06:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seriously rocked it on Saturday at
Yeah and lest we forget Ma$e who condemned rap in his book as demonic...
well, guess who's back. No shiny suits this time though. ;)
Lets not forget: Too Short who has made countless last albums
and especially Mr. Tupac who doesnt even let the *ultimate* retirement keep
him out of the music
jason kenjar wrote:
i think this just furthers my notion that all
stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it
out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the
sexual tension overwith already and just go for it.
Why not have both at the same time!! Call 319-721-5364 for a good
this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke!
-Original Message-
From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Aug 3, 2004 5:17 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this on his mind for a while
and tried (is
-- Original Message --
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah and lest we forget Ma$e who condemned rap in his book as
demonic...
well, guess who's back. No shiny suits this time though. ;)
you know aint nothing changed but the limp
tom
-- Original Message --
From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke!
london is for hipsters.
tom
andythepooh.com
I'm so glad my warped mind is inspiring some festive
creativity.;)
np:gold frap: strict machine.
--- David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jason kenjar wrote:
i think this just furthers my notion that all
stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have
it
out with a good round of
- Original Message -
From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke!
Who needs hype when there's alcahol?
Tristan
I smell a Sextronica revival in our future! how retro chic!
:^)
sean
on 8/3/04 9:20 PM, David Gillies at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jason kenjar wrote:
i think this just furthers my notion that all
stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it
out with a good round of mud wrestling or
Hello again,
I was addicted to this list a few years ago, but have been gone for awhile.
Likewise, being a poor graduate student, I have not had the $$$ to acquire new
music, or the time to keep up with what's new good. But things are looking
up! I'm sure you're tired of people asking you
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
-- Original Message --
london is for hipsters.
tom
andythepooh.com
git the hell on then, sport.
derek.
Did anyone go to see them at Fabric this Saturday?
Cheers
Martin
Not sure if this has been posted but check it out :-
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/elementary/front.htm
Some top Yello and Kraftwerk beats - the DnB bit is unreal..
Cheers
Martin
Being born in a stable does not make one a horse - Arthur Wellesley
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 0:10 am
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message --
I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t.
I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their
talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them.
-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:10
If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for
whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so
much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that
was set up for the first? UK party a few years back?
Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did
that then people who want to
I believe that list was in yahoo groups:
groups.yahoo.com
:D ense.
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] David Beattie wrote:
If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for
whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so
much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that
was set up
Thanks :D ense thats why I couldnt find it, its at
this url people if interested:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/UK-313/
I just subscribed since I have changed my addy since
then and it seems to be up and running OK
Cheers
BT
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that list
was in
The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my
original notice about it. This whole thread largely consists of complaints
about the fact that no-one's set something up in Detroit, and so I think
most of the contributors to it wouldn't move to a separate list to
not true..i wrote i hope i can make it!
:P
fab
- Original Message -
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside
Sometimes this list baffles me.. Where is the support ? People
that can't make it should be supporting the ones that are taking the
time to organize these events and play at them..
Ffs - if u wanna have a party, then sort one out.
p
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson
Ah yes, good point! Modems were no doubt short-circuiting around the world
after that one :)
Brendan
-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
not true..i wrote
Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite
parties.
are you insane?
flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune.
now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites?
...
I'd like to hear this guy do some DBX beats.
Cheers,
lrh
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:21 AM
To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE Detroit
Subject: (313) Beatbox
Not sure if this has been posted but check it out :-
LOL!!! you guys crack me up! (American for laughing hysterically)
This thread makes subscribing to this list for the past 10 years worth every
minute of it. I cant wait until the *20th* anniversary party debates! By
then, hopefully, we can hold the 20th party on the Moon. Start saving your
Euros
I also said I would come so there will be four of us Brendan!
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:10 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Ah yes, good point! Modems were no doubt
Hey,
Who dat sporting the record collector tee??? thats like 5 blocks from
my house.
you london kids are a damn strange bunch
On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, at 10:56 AM, KiDDy*RaVeR wrote:
Here are the few ones ive taken :
http://www.kiddy.fr/313
As you can see its fuzzy, not really
I think you should contact Dj Bone, Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Rob Hood, Mike
Grant, Stacey Pullen and whichever other Detroit folk have played/ will be
playing here in the last/next couple of months and berate them for not
playing Portland. Or maybe you should ask the people of Portland why they
It's a GREAT record - Spectral Disease part 2 is especially good I think.
Without doubt one of Arne's best (so far!). Grab it whilst you can!! :-)
- Original Message -
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: (313)
if they gave me more work to do, I'd have less time to
start weird tracks on bad headphones.
think of this as an audio fetus :) very beta and jammed
out live. weighs in at 8.3 megs
http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux//fux_wonders_how_bad_this_mix_is.mp3
my music-in-progress is always stored at
f*cking hell - this whole argument is so stupid
what's up with the whole anti-UK stance that a few people here seem to be
taking? It's stupid, it's childish, and I would expect it only from someone
who also hangs the Confederate flag above a ratty old sofa in their living
room. If you want to
-- Original Message --
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t.
I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and
that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them.
everyone's
Have any other 313'ers been receiving daily e-mail's from
Ryan Blackman with an attachement virus ?
Just want to make sure that it's not my computer...
Chris
PS - Hope your 'puter isn't too poorly Ryan
I have had loads of countless 313 list members in the past
-Original Message-
From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:43 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Ryan Blackman Virus ?
Have any other 313'ers been receiving daily e-mail's from
That's a very precious and judgmental point of view.
So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City?
Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated?
-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August
-- Original Message --
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's a very precious and judgmental point of view.
yep.
So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon
into Techno City?
i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was
Thanx for the nice words. :-
@Stewart Caig:
No, it's not a private pressing hahahaha. and it's mch cheaper than
the Peacefrog limited pressings ;-)
Cheers, Arne
Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
It's a GREAT record - Spectral Disease part 2 is especially good
Just to clarify:
Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly
lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks
into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars.
It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new
hi tom,\
everyone's always eager to get to where things are hot or
whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people
like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and
still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move
away? these new inventions called
Tom, that is ridiculous. Just because you choose to stay where you were born
and where you were, doesn't mean other have to do the same. Why do you find
everything that isn't your choice wrong?
Secondly, being a small promoter in a big city is just as hard. Believe me,
tons of my friends are
Hi,
I live in Chicago, I just want to say I want to move to Berlin SO BAD. However,
Robert, I think Mr. TDC jr has a point. I mean, in some ultimate sense, I feel
like I am making Chicago a better place by sticking to my guns and trying to
play out and expose people to the music that I love.
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there
are
people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better
left
behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for
-- Original Message --
From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom, that is ridiculous. Just because you choose to stay where
you were born
and where you were, doesn't mean other have to do the same.
i didnt say that they had to, did i? im just stating a
-- Original Message --
From: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY??
because berlin has had people working to make it a scene since the
dawn of techno music. to show up now after 15+ years of tresor,
hard wax,
sorry for replying that last bit to the list. it wasnt a very
personal email, i didnt realise it wasnt posted to the list
though. apologies if i offended fabrizio
tom
-- Original Message --
From: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 4 Aug
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different
way from many other people. family is possibly the least
replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my
grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive.
i imagine one
-- Original Message --
From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
well it could be said at this point, don't knock it till you've
tried
it.
if my main focus was music i'd happily move to a city where i
thought
my shti was best received. and where i could readily go
this thread is wearing out my delete-key finger :)
arguing about where to have the party and how many parties
to have?? what the hell kind of a group of spoiled people
have we become? :))
4pm please.
-Joe
-- Original Message
--
From: Fabrizio Nahum
how do you think techno would have ended up if every single person
interested in house moved to chicago permanently in the mid 80s
instead of staying home and doing their own thing? or what if all
the guys in chicago had moved to NYC to be around disco? so many
great things have come from remote
http://www.nightline-radio.de
seems to be an interview or something going on atm, but its
normally very good stuff.
I dont understand german but the conversation sounds silly.
I'd be curious about whats going on. I need a babel fish
-Joe
agree with all that, but isn't where you live a pretty simple equation?
somewhere you have friends, can support yourself, and feel good living. why
should people remain in detroit if they are miserable there? from all i hear
berlin is a great place to live. you can get apartments in former east
Well spoken. I'd like to add, that moving to a new city may in fact be as
hard as staying where you are, as you have to start meeting _everyone_
again. There may even be a language barrier (god forbid).
Who cares where you are, where you are from and where you are moving to
when you are making
Regarding moving from the US to another country -
You also have to prove to your host country's government that you can
support yourself, get a work visa, find and secure some place to live
before you move there, overcome any prejudices from employers, pay for
moving all your crap to another
Hey Don't knock Boring, Oregon (yes it's a real city in Oregon) unless
you've been there. It's got some great swimming holes. I have to say that
Model 500's Time Space Tranmat song, sounds just as good out there, as it
does in the inner city :)
Too me , Techno is a people thing, not a city
Hey nowPortland is that boring! We got Techno going on...it's no
Detroit, but trust me those guys that like to get to where things are
hot like coming to Portland..
Ask anyone we've brought out, they are appreciated and they LOVE to come
back!
~E
BTW.. there's a city called Boring
It's a matter of degrees, ain't it? If you were born in Vernon, FL and
happened to cultivate an interest in Detroit techno, do you think there'd be
a chance in hell you could evangelize about it there? We had some success
doing it in Iowa City (a city of less than 100,000), and thankfully some
Friends,
I think all of this talk on geography and how it affects our productivity/
involvement/ opportunities as producers, djs, artists, fans etc. is a key
topic. It matters, and it does not matter.
First, I must quote The Pet Shop Boys...
...there's a lot of opportunities, if there are'nt
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