I'd pay $15 per day
Putting an entrance fee on it could result in a drop in attendance. Only
the real fans of the music will go and many of the raver kids just
looking for some music to practice their breakdancing skills to would shy
away from it (possibly). If they still attract a big crowd
I'd pay $15 per day
I think there is a real difference to events which are free and
ones you need to pay to get into.
The challenge to put on a free event for everyone is much greater
and speaks alot more about what the event is trying to convey.
Putting an entrance fee on it
wow - my last message took forever to get through
MEK
I completely agree with what you're saying but I counter it all could be
done if everyone paid 5 bucks a day and accomplish what it needs to. Hell,
a beer down there is 5 bucks.
Peace,
Alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/26/2005 05:30 PM
To
Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc
313 313@hyperreal.org,
last year i spent a ton of money on movement related stuff. my gf got a
shrit, we bought 4 buttons, the dvd, and the double CD. i would have spent
more if they had other stuff i wanted. i think it would be dope if they
just offered more cheaper stuff for people to possibly buy in order to
support
I cant identify with the people on this list that insist, year in and out,
that this be a major point of anxiety. it will either happen or it wont.
detroit has a lot to offer on memorial day weekend, festival or not. so you
spend the weekend at museums and whitecastle, dancing at night at a
this seems too good- and easy.
what's the catch?
sorry, I'm a bit of a cynic...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:37 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Can anyone help me out of this situation?
On Jan 26, 2005,
did this just post 4 times in everyone else's mailbox?
Something's screwy with the server here at work.
MEK
Michael.Elliot-Kn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and you also buy records and go to shows and post on a friggin 313-list.
that puts you in a 1% population of those who attend Movement.
while the other 99% go because it's where other people go, it's happening,
people love being around other people
if everyone bought stuff like you did they'd
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and you also buy records and go to shows and post on a friggin
313-list.
that puts you in a 1% population of those who attend Movement.
while the other 99% go because it's where other people go, it's
Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 8:59:44 PM, you wrote:
AB3 this seems too good- and easy.
AB3 what's the catch?
AB3 sorry, I'm a bit of a cynic...
Seems like a lot of people think it's installing adware along with the
client. I'd hold off, personally.
--
Brian balistic Prince
hey all,
this is not meant to be spam, and i apologise if it's taken that way, but i
just thought i'd plug a party i'm helping to throw this Saturday night in
Melbourne, Australia.
(it's been years since i was joined to the 313-list!)
:-)
~Adam Askew
On Jan 26, 2005, at 5:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Putting an entrance fee on it could result in a drop in attendance.
Only
the real fans of the music will go and many of the raver kids just
looking for some music to practice their breakdancing skills to would
shy
away from it (possibly).
This is the press release for Melb only...
immediate press release:
date: thursday 27 january 2005
moonlite, shadow dancing, music, theo parrish and you - a quintessential
evening of
musical metaphors
summer-time is here and the nefarious stranger from detroit mr theo parish's
sound
signature
I don't think an attendance fee would help much or at all.
Especially a lower fee. It would probably cost more than $15 a person
just to build and run
the infrastructure that would enable people to enter/exit an event. To
enclose the event.
And then the cost of security/crowd control people.
One of the few alternatives seems to be lots of venues with different
events, some free entry most not.
That's called Mutek. :P
On Jan 26, 2005, at 10:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 8:59:44 PM, you wrote:
AB3 this seems too good- and easy.
AB3 what's the catch?
AB3 sorry, I'm a bit of a cynic...
Seems like a lot of people think it's installing adware along with the
client. I'd hold off,
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:46:59 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
From: Mike Melody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yo-check it:
Juan Atkins The Necto present
JUAN ATKINS FRIENDS
EVERY SUNDAY beginning Sunday, January 16th with
Have you got a date for that Cyclone?
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 14:13 +1100, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
This is the press release for Melb only...
immediate press release:
date: thursday 27 january 2005
moonlite, shadow dancing, music, theo parrish and you - a quintessential
evening of
musical
http://www.exeem.com/faq.htm#faq2
14. Is eXeem™ open source?
No, eXeem™ is not open source.
Thanks for playing our game, but sorry, zero points. Next.
-- fred
(bittorrent is under the OSI-sponsored MIT License.
I'm a little protective on this because my friend Bram wrote
the program :)
I think that Ian and Simon Kong bring up important points related to how
charging an entrance fee may have (unintended) social or cultural
impacts to the festival.
Personally, I would pay to get in each day, and it wouldn't affect me,
however the note below reminded me of one morning where I
To all the people who e-mailed me re: a date, this may help... ;)
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE
Who:Quintessential presents an evening for all
the senses featuring Theo Parrish (Detroit)
Date: Thursday 27 February 2005
What: Theo Parrish (Detroit)
When:Saturday 19 February 2005
Where:
not sure about mind body, but i'm just listening to Infiniti -
Skynet
on which Terrence is credited on 'electric circus', 'thought process'
'walking on water'.
nath
Where are you reading this please Nath? It strikes me that it might be
that the liner notes for the original release
I wonder: is R. Odell = Robert Odell?? the video director of Juans music
video, the one on the submarine?
sean
on 1/27/05 3:12 AM, nath at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words:
not sure about mind body, but i'm just listening to Infiniti -
Skynet
on which Terrence is credited on 'electric
I think it's gotta be. That name also crops up on 'Mind Body'.
k
-Original Message-
From: M : A : T : R : I : X [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2005 12:31
To: nath; 313@hyperreal.org; Ken Odeluga
Subject: Re: (313) Infiniti Collaborations
I wonder: is R. Odell = Robert
speaking of terrence dixon, i haven't heard anything from him since his
releases on tresor and background ages ago...
has he stopped producing? i quite enjoyed his brand of deep detroit
techno...
fab.
CITYMORB MUSIC
www.citymorb.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From:
It's one of those Detroit mysteries. I remember he did a gig about 2
years ago or so in Detroit ... I'm sure someone on here knows what he's
up to, if anything.
k
-Original Message-
From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2005 13:41
To: nath; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:
You're right to be a sceptic. The catch is right there:
eXeem(tm) is free and is ad-supported. eXeem(tm) is currently still in its
beta testing phase, which means that the network might not be completely stable
yet.
Ad supported and unstable? Why would I do that? Ad supported. Sorry...that's a
Ad supported and unstable? Why would I do that? Ad supported.
Sorry...that's a dealbreaker for me. Bittorrent is solid.
Some people just don't want to pay for anything, ever *LOL*
M
yes, but we all know it wouldnt work out. i believe that even if it were
$1 a day, or even for the weekend, most people wouldnt come and there
would be about 1500 people down there... maybe 2000.
look how many events happen year round that are FREE in detroit. where are
the people who come
Questions
1. Are we interested in the numbers only?
2. Would it not be better to put on a good festival that showcased
Detroit and International artists for 10,000 and break even, than 1
Million and lose everything, including the future of the Festival?
3. Are we on the list doing what we
Martin,
Honestly, the reasons for the sucess of the festival have already been
presented by Ian and others. They lie not in the numbers, or the money,
but in the ability to share the experience with someone you may have never
been able to share it with, in a manner that NO ONE saw coming. That
--- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Questions
5. If we feel the numbers would be low in Detroit,
why not put it on in
Europe?
M
I think this is something that perhaps has not been
considered and maybee should Martin. Not as a
replacement for the free event in Detroit but if
- Original Message --
From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. Would it not be better to put on a good festival that showcased
Detroit and International artists for 10,000 and break even, than 1
Million and lose everything, including the future of the
I think the best way for everyone concerned and willing to help is to pay your
$15 fee in advance. I'm sure if we'd been a bit quicker on the draw and
presented the organizers with a list of 313 members willing to contribute to
the cause, kevin or derrick would be more than willing to accept
im not against an idea like this. id be willing to pitch in at
least $50 if not more if it were required. they could use the cash
upfront for procuring licenses or whatever from the city or down
payments on sound/stage construction.
tom
-- Original Message
Word. Me too. So anyone got a line to the organizers (still not really sure
who's doing what this year)? Can this happen in the 11th hour?
Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems
** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year
olds are not noted for
http://www.littledetroit.net/Mixes/index.php
Cheers
Martin
Isn't that why we seek to get away from the world with such things as
techno? A DEMF isn't neccessary, but was a treat. Having the festival at
any cost would appear to compromise the very idea that some of us loved
the most about it...
:D ense.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Neil Tomlinson wrote:
But
Martin Dust wrote on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 about following:
Ad supported and unstable? Why would I do that? Ad supported.
Sorry...that's a dealbreaker for me. Bittorrent is solid.
oh and everyone is aware that exeem contains some spyware? ok, move on..
sakke
--
System error?:: Success
props
I just tried it last night and it works like crap..I'd wait until it's at
least an alpha version..
Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
01/27/2005 11:55 AM
To
313 313@hyperreal.org
cc
Subject
Re: (313) Can anyone help me out of this situation?
Martin Dust wrote on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 about
oh and sorry about bad quote, everyone.
sakke
--
System error?:: Success
props to mozilla.org
http://www.dustscience.com/Home/
Cheers
Martin
I think that one of the best thing that happened thanks to
DEMF/Movement is that people in the US and foremost in Detroit suddenly
realized that they had this music that was completely unknown to them
but is so popular in the rest of the world. Without the festival
Derrick, Juan and Kevin
Saving the attitude for when the 12s are out - top stuff
easy now
m
On 27 Jan 2005, at 17:14, matt kane's brain wrote:
that's an awfully nonchalant attitude for such big news! nice one
At 12:08 PM 1/27/2005, you wrote:
http://www.dustscience.com/Home/
Cheers
Martin
--
unsigned short
OK, I have a better idea: $2 voluntary donation, AND you
get an autographed picture of Derrick riding on the golf cart
with the megaphone.
:)
-- fred
Nice one Martin - after picking up the Black Dog 12
and hearing the clips for the Claude Young one I am
looking forward to a deluge of good music from you
guys ;-)
Cheers
BT
--- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.dustscience.com/Home/
Cheers
Martin
-- Original Message --
From: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I have a better idea: $2 voluntary donation, AND you
get an autographed picture of Derrick riding on the golf cart
with the megaphone.
now we're talking.
on a slightly more serious note, at
yeah... i think everyone on this list would buy one.
so, how many people is that...? 100?
i think the main thing you all are overlooking is that we are more a
minority down there than you could imagine.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
-- Original Message
-- Original Message --
From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yeah... i think everyone on this list would buy one.
so, how many people is that...? 100?
i think the main thing you all are overlooking is that we are more a
minority down there than you
if there were acctually 25,000 TO SEE JEFF MILLS there then we may have
an actual solution.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
-- Original Message --
From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yeah... i think everyone on this list
spyware free version:
http://www.exlite.net/
look, if there were 25,000 people there to see jeff mills play
records the final night of 03 i cant imagine there arent that many
who would buy posters or stuff. id like to see the sales stats of
eh? i'm with derek. no fuggin way would very many people buy detroit techno
fetishist gear.
finding
Or $5 and Derrick will give you an airplane
ride...w!
MEK
Fred Heutte
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, if they are having trouble getting $ together for Movement 2005,
what's stopping them from organizing a webpage and asking for donations ?
A little electronic panhandling might help.
telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist
on 1/27/05 1:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
www.neptunerecords.com
On Jan 27, 2005, at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just checked ear rational and it still says they are out of stock.
Does anyone know of another decent eRecord store that has both of
these in
stock ?
Thanks,
-MarcW
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote:
Questions
1. Are we interested in the numbers only?
Only? No. But there is a critical mass neded for such a space.
2. Would it not be better to put on a good festival that showcased
Detroit and International artists for 10,000 and break even, than
does anyone have the correct address..as just upgraded and lost it :) ta
got it, thanks
- Original Message -
From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:23 PM
Subject: (313) soulseek please
does anyone have the correct address..as just upgraded and lost it :) ta
Even if Movement had the money, city support, sponsors, logistics, etc. in
their hands, it looks like they'd be stuck booking only U.S.
artists..the following is downright scary:
(Stolen from a friend's journal, I'm assuming this is from Laurent's mailing
list)
LAURENT GARNIER
TOUR
What forms are these? - I never get asked any of these questions, nor does
anyone else I know who visits the USA (and yes it's on biz), I know the
forms are tough but Larry is just being silly. You have to answer most of
that stuff to get a loan in Europe, can't see what the problem is...
I think it's circumstancial to French residents visiting America. After
all of the things that Laurent has gone through with Visa problems, I can
see him taking the road of apathy to work permits...
D
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote:
What forms are these? - I never get asked any of
Do they have a special You didn't join in you merdi form then?
M
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
i thought it was an old one at first too martin, but he mentions the date
november 2004 which makes it pretty recent i reckon.
it does seem a little strange tho. i know plenty of people from europe who have
no problems getting here, such as bunker who just did a tour here. maybe
laurent's got
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think it's circumstancial to French residents visiting America.
After
all of the things that Laurent has gone through with Visa
problems, I can
see him taking the road of apathy to work permits...
i hope he
At 04:27 PM 1/27/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
I think it's circumstancial to French residents visiting America.
After
all of the things that Laurent has gone through with Visa
problems, I can
see him taking the road of apathy to work permits...
i hope he can see me taking the road to apathy
Don't do the popping over one you mention, so I wouldn't know about that,
been over as visitor, on biz and as an artist - still didn't get asked any
of that stuff...
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:39
Ahhh... so that's what's going on.
i was waiting to hear what was happening with his tour. i wonder if he'll
not bother coming to Canada as well. hmmm... i'll let you folks know.
- Original Message -
From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday,
Canada does not have the level of restrictions for entry that US is now implementing. Hopefully this means that Canada (especially Toronto)can see Laurent!
Original Message Follows
From: "Gerald" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Carissa Tintinalli" [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313)
shady past... what the fvck is that?
you sound like a priest
J.T. wrote:
maybe laurent's got a shady past he can't disclose...
-- Original Message --
From: ha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shady past... what the fvck is that?
you sound like a priest
why is that not a legitimate question? having a criminal record
would certainly factor in if his visas were being denied.
tom
Lets not take it out on each other or get into a Larry bashing session -
it's his call if he does want to fill the forms in
M
- Original Message -
From: ha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
shady
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