Probably everyone that reads (313) in LA already knows about this, but
just in case there's a lurker or three ... this is TONIGHT (Tuesday)
btw:
- Greg
Begin forwarded message:
I'm sure you already knew about this, but just in case you didn't:
-- Forwarded message
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On Feb 7, 2005, at 7:35 AM, Tosh Cooey wrote:
downloaded matt mcqueen's latest radio show (a counter-argument to
your
claim that 'this' would never happen on american radio), a fabrice
lig mix,
an old mixmaster morris mix
-- Matt's a great guy, but he's playing for a very very very small
One of the best groups ever!
http://www.trackitdown.net/news/658.html
here in the raleigh-durham area of north carolina, you can catch the occasional
house classic on the most popular station in the area, a commercial rb/hiphop
station, during the live drive-time mixes that air on thursday and friday
rush hour...pretty funny to hear the latest lil jon crap mixed
thanks Cyclone for forwarding that interview! it really made my day! now
I'll have Jewel/Duel stuck in my head for the rest of the night. back in
those days the two albums you'd find in *everyones* collection (at least
here in Detroit) were Propaganda and New Orders Low Life it was some kind
of
this is some heavy sh*t!
has there ever been major turmoil like this within the UR camp in the past?
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From: Rebelbass/bookings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: (313)
Where did you get this information Rebelbass? Who asked him what and when?
Does anybody know more?
On Tuesday, February 08, 2005, at 05:45PM, Rebelbass/bookings [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
I've heard that it started in december last year. there were no credits for
Rolando's music on the Los
Cool! I thought I was the only Propaganda obsessive apart from Christian
Smith, ha ha! I remember Dr Mabuse but only got the album many years later.
The ACT CD reissue is incredible too, as good as Propaganda, with Claudia
all over it. The mix Snobbery Decay (That's Entertainment) which
Yes, Lisa always represents!
I DJ sometimes and every time I play Dream Within A Dream someone asks what
it is. It's timeless.
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From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Propaganda
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 2:59 PM
Ooh! Very cool - I totally
He also did another version of Nude Photo (aside from his version of
that track with the same name) called 'Death Of Love'.
http://www.discogs.com/release/215538
In my opinion, it's his best version.
k
Ken Odeluga
Editor, Equities - Market Talk
Dow Jones Newswires
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know lots of people over in the UK who listen to the show on the net and not
all of them are 'heads' - I play the show in the office/library - my colleagues
who usually listen to Audioslave and U2 appreciate it and visitors to the
library ask what's playing so regularly that maybe I should
Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Cool! I thought I was the only Propaganda obsessive apart from Christian
Smith, ha ha! I remember Dr Mabuse but only got the album many years later.
For a while, almost anything ZTT dropped was all the rage. Propaganda
had more staying power than the bulk of it,
Alright!
You know any talk of Propaganda and ZTT in general will bring me out of the
woodwork.
What can I say. The one true Propaganda album A Secret Wish is a huge
influence on me. Murder of Love happens to be my favorite. Dream Within A
Dream still- way ahead of it's time. ZTT had a way of
Does anybody know more?
Ha!
I was just thinking this as well!
It's funny, must just be me being super nosy, but when you get told half a
story, you always wanna know the full story!
Best off leaving it unsaid really, thats a mad confrontational press
release he put out. I wouldn't have known
I'm not out to change the world and have techno on every radio
station, but I am trying to turn people on to quality electronic music,
one listener at a time.
SLAP
aha! the return of the virtual slap on the back
: )
Keep it up Matt Dave, really appreciated here. I second JT's motion, long
Okeh-
So, no Movement this year.
What is the word in Detroit for Memorial Day Weekend? My estimation is that for
the last three years, the parties that occured during the festival weekend,
were events unto themselves, No? I bet most of our best memories, experiences
occured during these
this is some heavy sh*t!
has there ever been major turmoil like this within the UR camp in the past?
You mean, like when Rob Hood left the group?
Or when Alan Oldham had differences?
C'mon, it's DETROIT! the D stands for drama...
Dense.
They always have big bust-ups when someone wants to spread their wings
and go it alone. It seems to happen without fail. But then, from what I
can see, things never stay acrimonious to the extent that there's no
friendly contact and even co-operation afterwards. At least this has
been the case in
C'mon, it's DETROIT! the D stands for drama...
cripes, all these years I thought it stood for DONUT.
You learn something new everyday.
_
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You know, I'd keep that press release drama in check. (Yeah, it kinda makes one
salivate for the salacious details...) I'm sure there is a lot more to it, but,
y'know, it seems UR needs to operate in this manner. We've seen it a number of
times before, when a soldier blows up in such a big way,
The Barrons: Forgotten Pioneers of Electronic Music
by Susan Stone
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4486840
and read the related articles also available on this website:
- Oskar Sala, Master of the First Electronic Musical Instrument
- 'Moog': Inventor of First Music
You know, I'd keep that press release drama in check.
Oh well.
I was looking forward to some drama.
All we ever get is say, Dan Bell Josh Wink nicked me ideas or Jeff
Mills Wanna buy any flipflops?
and that type of thing.
I was looking forward to the controversial statements from UR.
couldn't resist eh?
tried to mail to the list twice this past week
neither of my posts got through...
that would be this release:
http://www.discogs.com/release/90673
website:
http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/
robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website
that featured a new track by this guy
think it was called something like 'november'
so chances are something new is comming
On Wednesday, February 09, 2005, at 11:05AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know more?
I was just thinking this as well!
It's funny, must just be me being super nosy, but when you get told half a
story, you always wanna know the full story!
Best off leaving it unsaid really, thats a
tried to mail to the list twice this past week
neither of my posts got through...
yeah, new quality filter has been added Jurren. Any posts that suck don't
get through.
: p
(i turned the filter off, obviously)
_
jurren baars wrote:
that would be this release:
http://www.discogs.com/release/90673
website:
http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/
robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website
that featured a new track by this guy
think it was called something like 'november'
so chances are
yeah, new quality filter has been added Jurren. Any posts that suck
don't
get through.
: p
(i turned the filter off, obviously)
and yet, with uncompromising regularity, yours come through regular as
clockwork...
_
robin replied:
I wrote:
http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/
robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website
that featured a new track by this guy
think it was called something like 'november'
so chances are something new is coming out someday.
november sky was the track.
i'm sure
I got a new mix up here www.apinamix.net which I am trying out to for
experimental reasons
Jus click on 'people' 'techno' then 'house' and I will magically appear
before your very eyes..(if you scroll down)
Needless to say a bit of acid.. abit of wookie and abit of Detroit...
p
ok, the reason i suspected it was different people is that the
Surveillance stuff sounded more electronic (it was a passing listen
though i don't own any).
the november sky track is more house/piano oriented.
robin...
i suspect november sky is the last lot
according to omar it was by
I am 100% sure they are different people :)
On Wednesday, February 09, 2005, at 12:23PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok, the reason i suspected it was different people is that the
Surveillance stuff sounded more electronic (it was a passing listen
though i don't own any).
the november sky
You're all far too bloody defensive. If you would defend your right to a free
and open media marketplace as strong as you defend against a perceived slight
against Matt's efforts then this would never be a problem. As John Osselaer
previously said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The set is from
From our forum:
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=phpBB_14file=indexaction=viewtopictopic=7330
John
Best news all weekdefo heading over if it happens.
M
On 9 Feb 2005, at 12:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From our forum:
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?
op=modloadname=phpBB_14file=indexaction=viewtopictopic=7330
John
Erm, I was just reading an article, and thought it was of some interest.
I took this paragraph
We also learned that the other main Movement organizer, Kevin Saunderson,
recently met with Lucius Vasser from the mayor’s office. The question on
the table is whether the city will allow Movement to
robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website
that featured a new track by this guy
think it was called something like 'november'
so chances are something new is comming out someday.
sorry, what website is this?
btw..i have now come to understand that theo was not involved in the
fab. wrote:
robin had a mix by omar hackett / Hk up on his website
that featured a new track by this guy
think it was called something like 'november'
so chances are something new is comming out someday.
sorry, what website is this?
emotionelectric.com
we got shut down by the BPI
we got shut down by the BPI (www.bpi.co.uk) for hosting DJ mixes.
yeah, Robin must have been losing them millions for them to take time out
to bother.
sheesh.
oh well.
I blame Placid.
and, er, Tom Cox Jnr.
and that spw fellow who used to be round here as well.
Oh, and Nick Hardie too. Best
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, and Nick Hardie too. Best scapegoat in the business is Mr Hardie -
wouldn't hesitate to recommend him to anyone. You should hear what I tell
my bird. Oh sorry I'm late love, Nick got me really drunk. Sorry I went
to that orgy, Nick dragged me down there, wouldn't
If you would defend
your right to a free and open media marketplace as strong as
you defend against a perceived slight against Matt's efforts
then this would never be a problem.
Fxck yerself.
I went to 5 community action meetings with 2 including members of the fcc,
where there was
I've been attending festivals since they began (somewhere around '79).
there has never been a festival at which admission had been charged.
now assume there's no psychological adjustment--that people like me who
are used to going to hart plaza for free will easily pay up.
there is still a
Yeah, I find things like this to be very typical of Detroit... but then
again... it's typical of music in general.
Besides being in techno, I've been in a lot of bands over my life. If any of
you have ever been in a rock and roll band, you'll know that most of them are
doomed to break up
At 10:03 AM 2/9/2005, Dr. Lester K. Spence wrote:
I've been attending festivals since they began (somewhere around '79).
there has never been a festival at which admission had been charged.
now assume there's no psychological adjustment--that people like me who
are used to going to hart plaza
there is still a significant architectural adjustment. hart plaza was
designed as an open space venue. how do you change it to prevent free
riders?
Probably something like spending a million dollars on a fence, thereby
wiping out the $5 dollar admission fee in one swoop I should imagine.
Hey Tosh,
Then where does Brave New Waves fit into the picture? It runs nationally
across Canada, and the Northern U.S. States can pick it up as well - right.
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From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tosh Cooey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there is still a significant architectural adjustment. hart plaza was
designed as an open space venue. how do you change it to prevent free
riders?
Probably something like spending a million dollars on a fence, thereby
wiping out the $5 dollar admission fee in
On 9 Feb 2005, at 15:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there is still a significant architectural adjustment. hart plaza was
designed as an open space venue. how do you change it to prevent free
riders?
Probably something like spending a million dollars on a fence, thereby
That fence would
just checking the twelve
the version of 'off the battle' sounds unfamiliar to me,
but what this message is about - it says
taken from the 2xCD 20 Years of Metroplex
a promotional copy of Juan Atkins' new album The Berlin Sessions
(Tresor.215
From this
On 9 Feb 2005, at 15:49, Marsel // Nomorewords.net wrote:
just checking the twelve
the version of 'off the battle' sounds unfamiliar to me,
but what this message is about - it says
taken from the 2xCD
but what this message is about - it says
taken from the 2xCD 20 Years of Metroplex
I think there's deffo a comp due (has been for a year/18 months at least)
thats like a juan retrospective.
It's obviously a metroplex comp as opposed to a say, juan comp.
Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
If you would defend your right to a free and open media marketplace as
strong as you defend against a perceived slight against Matt's efforts then
this would never be a problem.
Fxck yerself. I went to 5 community action meetings with 2 including members
of the fcc,
a promotional copy of Juan Atkins' new album The Berlin Sessions
(Tresor.215
From this
thats the pacou/juan collab I think.
_
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yeah, it's going to be in Windsor but you'll have to enter from the US side
to gain admittance 1 million car line-up.
MEK
matt kane's
so two atkins involved albums coming on tresor
..
special looking forward to the metroplex double cd
hope it will include some unreleased mixes / tracks whatever
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: woensdag 9 februari 2005 16:56
Aan:
those spoiled Brits with their BBC
teehee, I know we're spoilt.
please be aware though that every single one of us pay for the BBC though,
and its not an option, the government just take it straight from our wages.
Not that I'm complaining mind, the BBC is cool. And now you can get a
freeview
Someone on LD was talking about hearing X-103 played on Radio 1 lunchtime radio!
Alex - they don't take it from our wages but we have a tv licence that costs
£121 a year - well worth it IMO.
The digital radio stations BBC 6 and One Extra are excellent too.
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From: [EMAIL
I'd gladly pay that just not to have f*cking adverts every 5 minutes
like on cable especially e4
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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 February 2005 16:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Radio Fries - Don't Tread On Me
Alex - they don't take it from our wages but we have a tv licence that
costs £121 a year
ah yes, sorry - of course.
well worth it IMO.
Yep for sure, a bargain, and, get this, I even have a tv licence.
The digital radio stations BBC 6 and One Extra are excellent too.
agreed - lets face it,
Thank you John Peel!
(RIP)
MEK
Robert Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.co.uk
Okay Tosh, that's like saying it's time Americans got a new president, isn't
it... And a lot of Americans did try.
But rules for radio and media are set by the FCC, and the tone of their
decision making is typically set by the administration. This is an
administration that believes that
On Feb 9, 2005, at 4:51 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:
First of all i am not trying to defend anyone here, not UR not
Rolando. Like Alex said before there are always to sides of a story. I
am sure that if UR would tell there part of this they would have a
perfectly good reason for what is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we got shut down by the BPI (www.bpi.co.uk) for hosting DJ mixes.
yeah, Robin must have been losing them millions for them to take time out
to bother.
sheesh.
oh well.
I blame Placid.
and, er, Tom Cox Jnr.
i blame having tracklistings to try and promote the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But rules for radio and media are set by the FCC, and the tone of their
decision making is typically set by the administration. This is an
administration that believes that corporations are good, monopolies are not
really a big deal, and any kind of government
You just can't compare the way Europe treats media to the way America is.
Americans would never pay for a national radio that broadcast music most
people probably hate.
Americans don't want to find ANY kind of art via government means.
America is quite hostile to artists and the arts in
From: robin
when the BPI got in touch i blamed nick as well.
Funny that, cause the BPI got in touch with me and blamed me for the site
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From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 February 2005 17:23
Now this is something that bugs me. Some Europeans will
often say America has no culture.
I don't think you'll find any Europeans on this list who would
often say that, this being a
really?!?!? Steve P Watts is back? Oh bless...
how can I subscribe to the techknow list?
MEK
robin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Totally agree.. if it was truly supposed to be an amicable parting as
implied in the first post, than 313 has surely done it part to resort
to amplifying any negativity.
I'd say unless you're a direct party involved, why just stoke the
drama? Save it for Jerry Springer, you desperados!
I don't think any Europeans have said there is no culture in the US anyhow.
Both Europeans and American enjoy a symbiotic relationship in this respect - a
cultural cross-pollination where ideas and innovation flow here and there -
someone in America innovates in an art form, sends it over to
He's made a fool of himself on No Future too :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:30 PM
To: robin
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) secret theo track?
really?!?!? Steve P Watts is back?
At 12:30 PM 2/9/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how can I subscribe to the techknow list?
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/313techknow should have instructions. And
maybe someone will be able to answer my question about the pluggo feedback
network.
--
unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
matt
I interpreted that as if there were a party that replaced this year's
festival, the _party_ wouldn't be in Hart Plaza.
It's encouraging news they got the support of the city. Fingers crossed
it will work out.
Fences suck, imho, keep people out as much as they keep them in. Would
need more
Friday February 11
***THE BUNKER***
UPSTAIRS MIDNIGHT:
Thomas Fehlmann (Plug Research, The Orb, Kompakt | Berlin) live
Gudrun Gut (Monika Enterprise | Berlin)
Thomas Fehlmann has been making electronic music since
1980, and is perhaps most well known as a member of The
Orb. Lately, he has
Pity the new Lisa Stansfield album on ZTT by Trevor is so awful! ;)
For a while, almost anything ZTT dropped was all the rage. Propaganda
had more staying power than the bulk of it, although some of those Art
of Noise tracks are still just unbelievable.
jeff
i made long samples for you guys
http://www.wattsmusic.com
item # 196381 (put that number in the search feild)
must have real audio.
discuss enjoy!
derek.
Not really? The worry with that is going back and forward would create drama
with customs for foreign visitors now that everyone, ally or not, is a
suspect terrorist. There are additional complications for media visas and
music visas too I would guess.
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: matt
At 03:01 PM 2/9/2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Not really? The worry with that is going back and forward would create drama
with customs for foreign visitors now that everyone, ally or not, is a
suspect terrorist. There are additional complications for media visas and
music visas too I would guess.
wha? me? no
matt kane's
brain
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good thing!
Mind, I don't see me coming this year, I have mountains of debt! I can
barely leave the house, let alone the country. ;(
At 03:01 PM 2/9/2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Not really? The worry with that is going back and forward would create drama
with customs for foreign visitors now
I got this, and it isn't at all electronic, as I was lead to believe. More
of a traditional score but v evocative. I still haven't seen the film yet
but I am determined to go easy on it after reading an interview with Oliver
Stone castigating himself for it. The film has done quite well in Aus. It
We got broke. ;)
I could go to the Uk twice for what it costs to get to the D.
--
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Movement 2005 and 2006
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 7:20 AM
On Feb 9, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Good
I disagree, I think it's time people took seriously the idea
of PREVENTING or BREAKING-UP the ClearChannel near-monopoly
of programming.
So should we also stop watching independent films and instead put
pressure on the major studios to produce more leftfield movies for
fear that they will
Here, here - Matt remind me to get you lots of cold hops soup when we are
over in May for a Niche event in the D ;)
M
this is radio clash using aural ammunition
this is radio clash can we get that world to listen?
this is radio clash on pirate satellite
orbiting your living room,
cashing in
Hmmm, yes. The Tatu stuff was okay I bought Lisa's at HMV for a small
fortune on import (mind, I used a 10 percent off voucher from Cosmo, ahem)
and was really disappointed. I like some of her music. I should have guessed
it would be v MOR after Seal's last...
Better is the dark Alison Moyet
Sorry I haven't followed all the details of this thread but I can speak
from personal experience of meeting him and say that Matt has a solid
knowledge of music that covers such a wide breadth it leaves me pretty
breathless- his enthusiasm for the subject and willingness to actually
get up and
hi
Europe treats media to the way America is. Americans would never pay
for a national radio that broadcast music most people probably hate.
Americans don't want to find ANY kind of art via government means.
I'm not sure publicly funded broadcasts would get off the ground if
they were
I have discussed to post the pressrelease form gogirl on this list with
rolando's girlfriend after a long conversation with her on the phone.
about jerry springer and desperado's: say i am partly involved regarding
this issue.
thnx
peace
a
On Feb 9, 2005, at 4:51 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma
And there's this as well...
CYBOTRON - Motor City Machine Music: An Exploration Of Cybotron
http://www.juno.co.uk/products/167398-01.htm
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 17:13 +0100, Marsel // Nomorewords.net wrote:
so two atkins involved albums coming on tresor
..
special looking forward to the
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 11:30 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
really?!?!? Steve P Watts is back? Oh bless...
Oh, come join in the fun. Here's a quote from one of his last emails:
But man you 313 hyperreal people still on the soul or retro early
80's Mojo would have played this retro sounding cut
anyone know anything about it - Buenos Aires in particular?
I've heard that they're still recovering from the nightclub fire in
December - anyone have any details?
I've got a co-worker who is going in March with his girlfriend and he wants
to see the what's happening.
MEK
seconded! that optimo - how to kill the dj part2 you're mentioned is
absolutely brilliant! i'd say it's already part of the classic mixes
league, that is still head by coldcut's journey by djs mix cd...
btw: there's a series of 10 downloadable mixes exclusive to the Optimo
website. Each mix
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