Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Neil Wiernik
ok now your being a twat my stuff is released properly you ass!! Im tring to save you some time and money if you want then go and buy my stuff its all on noise factory records distributed in europe and the UK where I think you are by cargo, in japan by polp and in NA by outside music...or

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Neil Wiernik
oh ok then he can get my stuff at the local shop in polan cargo services poland On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, kent williams wrote: He's in Poland, give him a break. The whole world isn't like Canada or the US. On 9/3/06, Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you under estimate my knowlege sir

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound

2006-09-04 Thread chthonic streams
kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, what matters besides the actual compositions? maybe i'm taking this one line too much out of context, but that sounds like a frighteningly traditionalist rhetorical question. in one sense i do agree, hence my bringing up that there's

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound

2006-09-04 Thread chthonic streams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Self-appointed golden ears dismiss feeling and creativity, because anyone can appreciate those qualities in music (though not always at first blush, since some tastes are acquired), whereas it takes a genuine superior class of lonely douche to prioritize the production

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Dale Lawrence
It's myspace... those are mp3's... low quality mp3's at that because that is all that myspace will let you upload. You can not reproduce a warm sound with a compressed music file. (ie: mp3s) Most of the audio spectrum that compression filters prioritize is at the high end because the

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound

2006-09-04 Thread kent williams
Well, don't be too frightened. All I'm saying is ... well it's right there in the Bible Matthew 7:16: By their fruits ye shall know them. It's been a long way around through a sometimes interesting debate, but the bottom line for me is that it's an argument that pretty silly. I make tracks, so

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Dale Lawrence
Why is it that when I make a good solid argument it somehow becomes pointless... and then the reason isn't even backed up with anything else that is solid? It's like the decision was made long ago, and when the logic is at point blank range it still isn't acknowledged. There are a bunch of

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread kent williams
Because arguments aren't fair. If you make a point that refutes something someone says, they can always say that wasn't actually what they said. Or they can take one thing out of your statement and provide what they think is a counter-example, and then use that to think they've refuted

Re: (313) cheesy house

2006-09-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Sydney is the capital of cheesy house. ;) Real cheesy house, that is. Simon on the list is up on the cool underground stuff in Sydney. Funny cos Sydney's mainstream is now defined by the Bang Gang electro- house mash-up posse and I recall meeting BG's Dangerous Dan down here years back and

RE: (313) Production

2006-09-04 Thread J.T.
or another chance is people are getting increasingly dumb - example: the recent monolake - you can smell 001010101010s from a mile yet 9 out of 10 ppl will say..it sounds like basic channel. which is...hardly sane ;/ eh? that alaska one? it does sound like basic channel, not exactly but the

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
indeed it isnt, there are countries where you actually have to think before you do or say something ...imagine? - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:31 AM Subject: Re:

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
what for? quality toilet paper is widely available and does its job really. i dont need substitutes, if i change my mind - you'll be the first to know.. /12 - Original Message - From: Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:40 AM Subject:

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
:) well, then take some jazz trak,compress the audio down to 128 kbps do the same to your average laptop trak..and guess what..the quality sucks in both cases, but the laptop trak sounds incomparably more bright, stiff, lifeless... than the other one. how come? i'll tell you when you learn to

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
go and buy my stuff its all on noise factory records distributed in europe ^this is the stuff i was waiting for; you think it's easy to get onto my record shelf? that acting like some backward canadian brat on some mailing list is enough of a reason to put you among kdjs, 69s or drexciyas?

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Neil Wiernik
dale like you Im beginning to thinkthat this whole thread has become pointless.. neil.. On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Dale Lawrence wrote: Maybe this is pointless too... At 04:53 PM 9/3/2006, you wrote: listened to the first one (which was a pain in the *ss as im on a dial up till 25th) , i dont

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Neil Wiernik
dont bother you wont like it regardless musically producers like myself and dale are obviously far to complex for some one who uses toilet paper enjoy the view from your high horse when you fall off your horse we can then again talk... better yet if you want the real deal Ill probally be

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Neil Wiernik
dont worry I wont give up making, releaseing and giging my music simply becasue you wont grace my music on your shelf.. in fact many of the more then talented producers on this list whom you have insulted wont give up eather... your one consumer in a sea of music lovers...your views wont stop

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Martin Dust
Brilliant, you truly have no idea what you are talking about, goodnight... m On 3 Sep 2006, at 13:09, v12 wrote: silenced: trak 6,10 and 16 - to my ear: NONE they've just got their hi-end cut off which adds greyness to the overall impression.. i've listened to 320 kbps mp3s and it all

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Ok, now we have come to the point were we are insulting people, this threat is now officially dead (Godwin law's maybe?). Lets stop this, don't reply to this anymore and think it never happened. KJ On 4-sep-2006, at 6:43, v12 wrote: what for? quality toilet paper is widely available and

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread m50
Pardon my dust, but isn't Kirk known for having one of the craziest setups of modular analog synths in the world? m50 At 07:09 2006/9/3, v12 wrote: silenced: trak 6,10 and 16 - to my ear: NONE they've just got their hi-end cut off which adds greyness to the overall impression.. i've

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Yeah i can remember seeing a gearlist in some article and it is definitely a gearjunkies wetdream, oh and he has this: http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/ModcanB.htm On 4-sep-2006, at 11:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon my dust, but isn't Kirk known for having one of the craziest setups of

RE: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
-Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 September 2006 10:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Laptop Debate Yeah i can remember seeing a gearlist in some article and it is definitely a gearjunkies wetdream, oh and he

RE: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
(Now this is more like it) ...here are two that do it for me: 1. Designer Music - Good Girls 2. Taana Gardner - Work That Body

RE: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread Peteri, Jochem
lords of acid - sit on acid the perfect setting is putting it on yourself and then levitate your body with extreme force towards the most crowded spot while screaming something cheerfull oh, and i love the velvet man. always good for a sliding... -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken

RE: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread Peteri, Jochem
good lyrics too btw... i like tracks with lyrics. http://www.lordsofacid.com/lyrics/index.php?show=27 good topic as well. technolyrics.. anyone? -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 4 september 2006 15:17 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE:

RE: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread Dan Bean
erm, just one? harsh, how about three? Infiniti - Game One Armando - Welcome To The Warehouse Ronnie Dyson - All Over Your Face Don't dance that much these days unfortunately. I'm far too picky.

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread v12
no idea what he has...couldnt care less about it, ive listened to a bunch of more/less recent new religion output and it didnt sound particularly warm or special (while his blue binary sketches on electric institute sounded really ok ) /12 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
make one more jokes of my geo-location and i'll call things directly what they are again,unless you ban me from the list on time.. /12 - Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
march 2007, i'll send someone for it.. remind me a week before if you could... /12 - Original Message - From: Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate. dont bother you wont like it regardless

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread v12
cobblestone jazz - 5th element common factor exploration:meaning noleian reusse - lovers jack scorpion's dream aqua dance first one traks that come to mind... /12 - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:23 PM

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 9/4/06, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: erm, just one? harsh, how about three? Infiniti - Game One Armando - Welcome To The Warehouse Ronnie Dyson - All Over Your Face thems is three bangers for sure. tom

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread J.T.
hmm the nwaq is massive. i have played that for a few friends who had fallen out of touch/enthusiasm with techno and it almost singlehandedly (drexciya lent a hand as well) got them back into it. and the kirk ep's are about as good as it gets these days for deep techno. they didn't stun me at

(313) COMING SOON : ERELL RANSON - SLEEPING BEAUTY / AW-005 12

2006-09-04 Thread Matt Chester \(313\)
Hi all- not sure if this was posted already? If not, another cool AW release to look out for. ;-) COMING SOON : ERELL RANSON - SLEEPING BEAUTY / AW-005 12 RELEASE DATE: 18TH OF SEPTEMBER 2006 A1 - NOTHING HAS TO CHANGE (click to listen) A2 - DIGITAL DREAM (click to listen) B1 - THE

Re: (313) COMING SOON : ERELL RANSON - SLEEPING BEAUTY / AW-005 12

2006-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I have heard some of Erel his stuff and fans of the more deeper techno (like Arne his own material) keep an eye out for this one! KJ On 4-sep-2006, at 18:08, Matt Chester (313) wrote: Hi all- not sure if this was posted already? If not, another cool AW release to look out for. ;-)

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread Andrew Duke
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm still a sucker for any of the uptempo numbers on the first Inner City album. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://cognitionaudioworks.com http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks

FW: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message- From: chthonic streams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2006 15:00 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate. still trying to get this one through...did some edits so we'll see. For your info (if you don't already realise) I'm at

RE: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
This was from discogs... Even if DeGeorgio recognizes that he resorted to a unique sequencer, the Neutron, to reproduce the modal variations characterizing his musical inspirations ...i guess he'd have trouble making his music on a laptop then? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken

RE: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
Ignore that, the neutron is a plug in...i thought it was an outboard step sequencer... -Original Message- From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 5:07 a.m. To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Laptop Debate This was

FW: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message- From: Andrew Duke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 September 2006 17:52 Call me old-fashioned, but I'm still a sucker for any of the uptempo numbers on the first Inner City album. Andrew A yeah!!!

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Nick Breinich
google latronic notron. -nick Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) wrote: Ignore that, the neutron is a plug in...i thought it was an outboard step sequencer... -Original Message- From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 5:07 a.m. To: Odeluga,

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
no, the correct name is the Notron sequencer, made by Latronic. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/jun97/latronicnorton.html it is hardware and very dope. regardless, KDG does have the tendency to overproduce his stuff. he can easily get into some lite jazz territory, especially

Re: (313) Notron

2006-09-04 Thread Nick Breinich
Claude Young has put one to good use as well. -nick Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: no, the correct name is the Notron sequencer, made by Latronic. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/jun97/latronicnorton.html it is hardware and very dope. regardless, KDG does have the tendency to

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
i have never heard of Neutron as a sequencer, can you give us some more info. I thought you were talking about the Hartmann Neutron which is a really impressive synth and was later converted to a piece of software. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 4-sep-2006, at

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Martin Dust
http://www.maxmsp.ru/files/fizzarum/un_seq/notron/notron_sos.htm m - Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) Laptop Debate i have

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Nick Breinich
that's the Hartmann Neuron. -nick Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: i have never heard of Neutron as a sequencer, can you give us some more info. I thought you were talking about the Hartmann Neutron which is a really impressive synth and was later converted to a piece of software. KJ --- Eevo

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread fab.
http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufacturers/Latronic/Notron/info/Notron.txt

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Ah! The Notron, yeah that was a cool piece of hardware, i played with one of those somewhere in the mid-nineties. It looked like a prop from Buck Rogers though :) On 4-sep-2006, at 20:17, Martin Dust wrote: http://www.maxmsp.ru/files/fizzarum/un_seq/notron/notron_sos.htm m -

(313) UR live The Hague

2006-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
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(313) FA Ricardo Villalobos, The Modernist , I-F - Mixed up in the Hague vol 1 2

2006-09-04 Thread ralcomendras
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(313) kings of techno

2006-09-04 Thread marsel
rapster / bbe Tracklisting: CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER 1- The Stooges ‘No Fun’ 2- Aretha Franklin ‘Rock Steady’ 3- The Temptations ‘Plastic Man’ 4- Funkadelic ‘Bettino’s Bounce’ 5- Carl Craig ‘No More Words’ 6- Jeff Mills ‘Utopia’ 7- BFC ‘Galaxy’ 8- Arpanet ‘NTT DoCoMo’ 9- D.I.E. ‘Get Up’ 10- Dabrye

Re: (313) kings of techno

2006-09-04 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
nice, very few actual techno tracks. looks like a fun comp tom On 9/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rapster / bbe Tracklisting: CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER 1- The Stooges 'No Fun' 2- Aretha Franklin 'Rock Steady' 3- The Temptations 'Plastic Man' 4- Funkadelic 'Bettino's