Re: (313) OT probably, Snoop Dogg

2007-12-03 Thread JT Stewart
what are the beats? i didn't recognize any samples.. the beat reminds me a lot to shake's stuff... On Nov 30, 2007 6:52 PM, Daniel Troberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and some well known beats :) >

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Luis-Manuel Garcia
Speaking of definitional debates, MEK, did you know that you appear in an academic journal article on Final Scratch? Tosh appears there too, believe it or not... lemme know if you want a .pdf of it. LMGM On Dec 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shxt - Snoop is so much closer

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread kent williams
I think they invented 'French Filter House With Enough Pop Catchiness Added So As To Actually Sell Beyond The Dance Music Ghetto Without Entirely Sucking.' But it's still not Electro. What I really wonder is if you can sharpen razor blades by aligning them to magnetic north under their pyramid.

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Rob G
I think its reasonable to say that Daft Punk went in an electro direction after their first album. if ONLY because they then had some vocoders, arpeggiators and a few non 4/4 rhythms. does that make it 'electro'? or maybe they just invented "electro-house"? - Original Message From

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Shxt - Snoop is so much closer to what electro is and was than Daft Punk are or ever have been like I said, electro is hip-hop - electronic hip-hop & electronic funk it's the meeting place between funk, as in R&B rooted funk, and hip-hop just because Daft Punk uses vocoders and have disco/robot im

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 4:43 PM, Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to try to > confuse the > arguments as much as possible. > > 1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown influenced. > > 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats.

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Rob G
I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to try to confuse the arguments as much as possible. 1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown influenced. 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats. 3. Is Prince pop or electro? Roger & Zapp? Dr. Dre sampling Roge

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
LOL! Maybe I need to start carrying around a vocoder. MEK "KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:14:23 AM: > I've given up to get all worked up everytime i hear this term wrongfully > used. > If someone says to me that its gonna be an "electro" party, i always ask > whether it's "É

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread KiDD*e
I've given up to get all worked up everytime i hear this term wrongfully used. If someone says to me that its gonna be an "electro" party, i always ask whether it's "ÉlectrO" (with a flat french teen rocker accent), or "EE-LeK-TrOw" (with a robot distorted voice). If he doesn't get it, i say goodby

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
George Clinton said it best "Everything is on the 1" MEK Michael Pujos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/02/2007 03:40:31 PM: > kent williams a écrit : > > I don't think anything is gained by being purist about a term like > > 'Electro.' Though if you're talking to a Detroit Techno fan it does >

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Nail meet Hammer - bang! Exactly Ken. Imo the word and meaning of Electro has been hijacked and the plane is in danger of being blown up. "Electro" has been slapped on as a prefix because it became the hot word - it sold magazines like Mixmag and URB, it sold fashion accessories at Hot Topic, and

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Problem is - Electro has always gotten the short end of the stick. It's the forgotten brother/sister of hip-hop. Scratch that - Electro is Hip-Hop! After the 80s barely anyone paid any attention to it - from techno to house to mainstream music. Hell, it barely got any recognition within hip-hop.

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 11:19 AM, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you define Pop? I would say that Daft Punk's overt manipulation of > image and how > they present both their music and themselves is up in the higher echelons of > pop music > alongside Kraftwerk, Sparks et al. In fact it's

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
That's all well part of it. MEK "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 10:19:58 AM: > How do you define Pop? I would say that Daft Punk's overt > manipulation of image and how they present both their music and > themselves is up in the higher echelons of pop music alongside > Kraf

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Toby Frith
How do you define Pop? I would say that Daft Punk's overt manipulation of image and how they present both their music and themselves is up in the higher echelons of pop music alongside Kraftwerk, Sparks et al. In fact it's rumoured that they have taken the latter's robot persona to another leve

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 11:11 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Homework is less pop than their subsequent albums. Imo Daft Punk as pop as > Chemical Brothers, Moby, Prodigy, etc. are pop their last album was very techno, it sucked, but it wasnt really pop at all. its funny that "one more time" is a pop s

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Homework is less pop than their subsequent albums. Imo Daft Punk as pop as Chemical Brothers, Moby, Prodigy, etc. are pop MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/03/2007 09:51:53 AM: > > > > > Daft Punk make pop music > > Would you classify 'Homework' as pop music ?? > > How about 'Rock n Roll' off t

Re: (313) AW question

2007-12-03 Thread JT Stewart
he released it on his own label instead On Nov 30, 2007 4:32 PM, Ivan Tomasevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i've read Arne Weinberg's interview for 11th hour recently, and it says > that there was an album planed to be released for Keynote records, called > Gargoyles, so i was wondering what ha

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Gil Yaker
Hey, two songs off of Homework were nominated for grammys, how much more pop can you get? I kid... :) - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 10:59:16 AM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro homework

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Dec 3, 2007 10:51 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you classify 'Homework' as pop music ?? > > How about 'Rock n Roll' off that album ? Doesn't sound very 'pop' to me. > > Maybe their subsequent albums, but Homework is an all time classic in my > opinion. homework is an excellent house

RE: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Odeluga, Ken
True say. On the one hand we could take the chance to decry the futility and at times laughable nature of genres and their names (usually a good thing to do). We could also be magnanimous and reiterate how 'scene's change,' 'everything evolves', etc. But on the other hand there is a worthwhile

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Gary . Girard
Daft Punk make pop music Would you classify 'Homework' as pop music ?? How about 'Rock n Roll' off that album ? Doesn't sound very 'pop' to me. Maybe their subsequent albums, but Homework is an all time classic in my opinion. Kind regards, Gary Entertainment UK

Re: (313) Electro vs Electro

2007-12-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Fck that - just because a huge majority of people call anything with a "dance beat" and synths "techno" doesn't mean that we should start calling Paul Oakenfold sound "techno music". Electro = Electronic Funk as in Egyptian Lover, Aux 88, Whodini, UTFO - it's the in early roots of hip-hop, it's F