Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-30 Thread spw
on 7/29/03 7:44 AM, robin pinning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see steve, now i know for certain you're trolling. as ken says, it'd be nice to see what music you really enjoy. to see where you're coming from when you post all your criticism of us 30something 80's obssessed trend following

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-30 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - on 7/29/03 7:44 AM, robin pinning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see steve, now i know for certain you're trolling. I've come to the conclusion that spw is Luke Monteiro in disguise, revisiting the scene of the crime. Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics:

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-30 Thread garrett
- Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics - Original Message - on 7/29/03 7:44 AM, robin pinning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-30 Thread spw
Nah, not here to troll or to 313 hero worship. I will say from reading J.T.'s reviews when it comes to newer music the 'tres demented (planet e)' sounds decent. The last thing I bought on Planet E was The Climax. I'm not into house like JT Donaldson, 3 Chairs, Moodyman, Russ Gabriel, ect... on

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-30 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I will say from reading J.T.'s reviews when it comes to newer music the 'tres demented (planet e)' sounds decent. At last, something I agree with you on! k

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread Matthew MacQueen
this coming from someone who plays mostly '80s music on his radio show. I know your jsut trying to educate people but that's so typical why not more minmal techno and early '90s techno? mostly 80's? Really? I think you mean SOME, but definitely the minority. The 80's is decade, not a

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread Kent williams
Mike Huckaby, 2 weeks ago: See in the beginning we didn't see no separation between house and techno, it was all the same music. Similarly, when they started making hip hop records in the 70s, they thought they were just making disco their own way, something pointed up perfectly in how Rapper's

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread James Bucknell
i really like the sound of records played at minus 8. and believe me--i've got plenty of records. From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:11:31 +0100 To: 'Sakari Karipuro' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics not to diss

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Straight up spw, I'd be interested to hear what records you yourself are enjoying at the moment. k As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread spw
on 7/28/03 8:44 PM, Kent williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Huckaby, 2 weeks ago: See in the beginning we didn't see no separation between house and techno, it was all the same music. yeah, Chicago house. (oooh that was a good one) after 1990 you started to see a separation I'm sure

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread robin pinning
they were just making disco their own way, something pointed up perfectly in how Rapper's Delight is Good Times note for note. Good times go-good go-good times go-good go-good times, that's almost a played out trick in turntablism. The Invisible Scratch Pickles can run circles around the

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread Benn Glazier
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:05:58 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: on 7/28/03 8:44 PM, Kent williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good times go-good go-good times go-good go-good times, that's almost a played out trick in turntablism. The Invisible Scratch Pickles can run circles around the

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-29 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
, d$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:43 PM To: spw Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Matthew MacQueen Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics But there is a difference between being trendy and having your tastes develop along side

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics ian cheshire wrote on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 about following: of practice) emulate the reverse action thus enhancing your

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread DJ Nikadeemas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics lol! that's great :) altho' ... remember that old song nine is a classic by Ace the Space? that sounded pretty neat slowed wAy down (like -4 to -8 range). lisa Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread lisa
2003 17:48:33 -0400 To: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics lol! that's great :) altho' ... remember that old song nine is a classic by Ace the Space? that sounded pretty neat slowed wAy down (like -4 to -8 range). lisa Sakari Karipuro wrote

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread lisa
hmmm - obviously I've missed some of the finer moments of the 313 list (wasn't around when this was discussed previously) - hehe! experimental is fun, but sometimes it goes horribly wrong. the chipmunk vocals, the scary point of tipping into that awful European hi-energy beat range (you know

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread spw
Pitching up records has always been a part of Detroit techno. As a general practice a techno label like UR (when it was a techno label) would release a record a little slower then the actual DJ speed. on 7/27/03 9:48 PM, lisa at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Sakari Karipuro
lisa wrote on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 about following: too-slowed songs/vocals that sound like a scary drug trip. I think if DJs use judgement get creative great things can happen. It's good to play around. There should be no limits. of course, there's always some exceptions to the rule. i'm just

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Langsman, Marc
not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. There is if you play GheTToStyle thankyou very much !!! .. Oh yeah and that involves having far too many records ! Peace,

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 27 juli 2003 22:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Langsman, Marc
? I'm happy with them and I wouldn't trade them in for technics. Joost -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 27 juli 2003 22:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics Hello 313 Peepz, I've come

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread robin pinning
Thanks for the comparison...I agree about the pitch, I like the resistencace on the 1210s but vestax are definitely moving things forward quite substantially especially with the straight arm etc. all the vestax needed (imo) was diecast aluminium shell instead of the plastic... all that stuff

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread ian cheshire
smells like Freeland ?? isn't that what it is ? -Original Message- From: DJ Nikadeemas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 03:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics I think you're searching for track #8 which clocks in at 123 bpm's on http

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke This sounds overly prscriptive to me. People play in a variety of ways with a

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Ryan Snowden
For house I can understand that, kind of.. But are you for real sakari!? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 28 July 2003 12:15 |To: 313@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro |Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics | | | | | Sakari Karipuro wrote

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread ian cheshire
@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics For house I can understand that, kind of.. But are you for real sakari!? |-Original Message- |From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 28 July 2003 12:15 |To: 313@hyperreal.org; Sakari Karipuro |Subject: RE: (313

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread David Powers
; Sakari Karipuro Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you come into such situation you don't have enough records with you. sakke This sounds overly

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I've come into a bit of money (literally) Wow, can you give me some. ;)

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread spw
To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage but from what I read even dj's like Ron Hardy had a reputation of

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics 07/28/03 03:21 PM

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Matthew MacQueen
To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo and house music is more trendy than techno at least on this mailing list. People here seem to feed off the vibes of the deephousemusicpage Ha! Steve I always like how you keep us abreast of the latest

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Sakari Karipuro
spw wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo i've tried to follow my rule, (if i may say so) for the past 10 years i've played records. i couldn't care less if it's trendy or not. (and to repeat myself,

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread spw
As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills is mellowed out and mid tempo, trends change and a lot of times people here

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread spw
on 7/28/03 3:58 PM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: spw wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: To be fair, this is a statement that it's trendy now to play records at normal tempo i've tried to follow my rule, (if i may say so) for the past 10 years i've played records.

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Matthew MacQueen
To: Matthew MacQueen; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics As funny and ridiculous as my statement must seem, people would have not made statements like you must play records at normal tempo back in the early to mid '90s when minimal techno was all the rage. Now even Jeff Mills

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
@hyperreal.org cc: 07/28/03 04:02 PMSubject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

(313) Re:(313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Hodgson
quote sh*t if we didn't develop and move along we'd all be discussing the latest tunes sung on Sesame Street. /quote Hey, cut down the Sesame bashing!! ^_^ -- -- Andrew Hodgson - Engineering x5235 -- Jim Henson's Creature Shop,

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread spw
on 7/28/03 4:38 PM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irrelevant to my point. What I observed is your trend vigilance and I perceive it as a waste of time and has nothing to do with most people like or play. I think the only person so concerned with the trends is music is you, so

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Sakari Karipuro
spw wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 about following: on 7/28/03 3:58 PM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've tried to follow my rule, (if i may say so) for the past 10 would you say you were mostly a techno or house person 10 years ago. no, actually i was both. i've always been

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Brent Kirkwood
sh*t if we didn't develop and move along we'd all be discussing the latest tunes sung on Sesame Street. DBX's Rubber Ducky anyone? Brent

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
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(313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread Chris Anglesey
Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go for, Technics or Vestax ? I've had SL1210's before and although they are reliable i've always been disappointed by their lack of features. I've heard good

(313) Vestax or Technics ?

2003-07-27 Thread Chris Anglesey
Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go for, Technics or Vestax ? I've had SL1210's before and although they are reliable i've always been disappointed by their lack of features. I've heard good

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread Mark S . Krüx
especially if you won't be able to use it on a 1200 when playing out?? Ohhh and the Vestax is ugly! ;-) Just my .02happy shopping, m* - Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: (313) Vestax

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics ?

2003-07-27 Thread Mark S . Krüx
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: Re: (313) Vestax or Technics ? This one's been beat to death, but I'll reiterate the single most important reason why you should get the Technics: that's what you'll be playing on when you do gigs. Period. Always. The clubs will have Technics

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread ian cheshire
-Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 July 2003 21:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go

RE: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread Sakari Karipuro
ian cheshire wrote on Sun, 27 Jul 2003 about following: of practice) emulate the reverse action thus enhancing your technique :) + 16 is a good feature but one simple turn of a screw and you'll have the same not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread scotto
- Original Message - From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics Hi ya Chris Well for me (I'll go out on the limb here :) would be Technics. Sure the Vestax

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread lisa
lol! that's great :) altho' ... remember that old song nine is a classic by Ace the Space? that sounded pretty neat slowed wAy down (like -4 to -8 range). lisa Sakari Karipuro wrote: not to diss anyone personally, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for pitch above +4% or less than -2%. if you

Re: (313) Vestax or Technics

2003-07-27 Thread Mark S . Krüx
- and i've said it few times here before.. Sakke's pet peeve is well documented;-)