RE: (313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-04 Thread Brendan Nelson
ays find myself imagining the chords from E2-E4 whenever I hear the acapella of "Take Me Away"... | -Original Message- | From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 04 December 2002 16:24 | To: The Music Institute | Cc: Ian | Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4's offspring |

RE: (313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-04 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> On review of the CD, I missed any obvious use of E2-E4, > although "The Silver State" might have some snatched chords. Well that's the one I was thinking of... I guess I can't say for sure but it sounded like a satched snippet with heavy effects. > Thanks, BTW Matt for reminding me what an a

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Sicko
I love the electronics-only side too, I just think he could have used a little editing. It just seems to come alive when the guitar parts bounce off the beat. Or maybe I'm getting soured on repetition in my old age. -d On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 09:00 AM, Sean Creen wrote: I love

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-04 Thread Sean Creen
>I love the track too, but IMHO it's at its most interesting when the guitar comes in halfway through. Really? It's just the opposite for me - I hardly ever listen to side two; it all just gets a bit too prog-rock and noodly for my liking, but side one is genius... Sean.

Re: (313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-04 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "The Music Institute" <313@hyperreal.org> Cc: "Matthew MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) E2-E

Re: (313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-04 Thread Ian
On 12/3/02 7:39 PM, "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew MacQueen wrote: > Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on "The Art of > Travel" 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample > prominently and cool re-work of it. > > Does anyone know the name of the

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Sicko
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 04:50 PM, Adam wrote: I remember a Craig interview where he cites May playing it at the music institute and being totally blown away. I think he mentioned May getting it from either Mojo or on of his trips to Chicago, and getting it from Lil Louis. http://

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Sicko
Right ... I'm just saying I don't think it influenced more than a couple of people. Then again, maybe Disco Circus was one person's jam, YMO's "Firecracker" another, etc. -d On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 03:25 PM, techno wrote: I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading

Re: (313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-04 Thread Gerald
Matthew MacQueen wrote: Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on "The Art of Travel" 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample prominently and cool re-work of it. Does anyone know the name of the song Matt's talking about here? Cheers! G

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-04 Thread xx xx
o: Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something

RE: (313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-04 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> 2 x C2 remixes on remake > Basic channel remake of remake > Sueno Latino > Derrick May's mix of Sueno Latino + many other mixes > plus there's are tracks by the Detroit Escalator company > and by ismistik that essentially revamp e2-e4 in their own flavor > without being straight covers or remixes

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread xx xx
o: Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something

(313) E2-E4's offspring

2002-12-03 Thread jbeard
2 x C2 remixes on remake Basic channel remake of remake Sueno Latino Derrick May's mix of Sueno Latino + many other mixes plus there's are tracks by the Detroit Escalator company and by ismistik that essentially revamp e2-e4 in their own flavor without being straight covers or remixes. I'm sure the

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Adam
I remember a Craig interview where he cites May playing it at the music institute and being totally blown away. I think he mentioned May getting it from either Mojo or on of his trips to Chicago, and getting it from Lil Louis. http://www.deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm Lil Louis live at the bi

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread techno
I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading an Carl Craig interview where he talks about the song being an inspiration going back to 1988, E2E4 was one of those remixes he had on acetate and he wanted to release it so he got Manuel Gottsching permission, it was put out on the Paper C

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
used bin..recordtime..always wondered who it belonged to first -k Original Message: - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 13:02:18 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching you

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Grammenos, Peter
you can pick up the cd from dancetracks in nyc or on their website, that's where i got it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 M

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for the vinyl-impaired there's also a cd -k Original Message: - From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actua

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread John Bush
PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:23 AM > To: John Bush; Dan Sicko; Tristan Watkins > Cc: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching > > > yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex > patterson drop E2-E4. > > also,

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread dave cronin
03, 2002 10:36 AM >> To: Tristan Watkins >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching >> >> >> >> I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in >> Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derr

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread John Bush
down in the mid-'80s. John > -Original Message- > From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:36 AM > To: Tristan Watkins > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching > > > > I'm not sure

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Dan Sicko
I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Dan Sicko
Flaccid house! brilliant. On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:01 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote: You can call it Progressive House or flacid tech house

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Brendan Nelson
PROTECTED] | Sent: 03 December 2002 13:24 | To: Tristan Watkins; Fabrizio Nahum; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching | | | > I almost gagged the other day when | > I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. | | Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "John Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manue

RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread John Bush
> I almost gagged the other day when > I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on t

Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching > Hi, sorry if this has been covered already. > > yesterday a friend had me listen

(313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching

2002-12-03 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
Hi, sorry if this has been covered already. yesterday a friend had me listen to this (fantastic) record and stated that it was fundamental in defining and inspiring detroit techno. How true is this? thanks fab.

Re: [313] E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Mediadrome
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RE: [313] RE: (313) E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
It's on an early Ash Ra Temple record. I think it was Seven Up but i am not to sure about this... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Wibo asked: > > Can anyone tell me from what album the Göttsching track > "Time" comes from? My > dad has this track on a very vague German compilation with Jarre-like > electro

[313] RE: (313) E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Wibo . Lammerts
02 11:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: [313] E2-E4 can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22

Fw: [313] E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Mislav Bobic
Sorry, postponed for year 2003 ! > > can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. > > > > and for anyone in the area: > > > > Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg > > (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. > >

Fw: [313] E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Mislav Bobic
sage - > From: "Jason Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:34 > Subject: [313] E2-E4 > > > can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. > > and for anyone in

Re: [313] E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Mislav Bobic
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:34 Subject: [313] E2-E4 can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Ru

[313] E2-E4

2002-06-10 Thread Jason Donnelly
can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. jd ---

RE: [313] E2-E4

2002-06-07 Thread Giles Dickerson
Maarten Baute > Reply To: Maarten Baute > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2002 10:15 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] E2-E4 > > Hi, > > I just got myself a copy of manuel göttching´s E2-E4 on racket records (is > this the original release?) , bu

[313] E2-E4

2002-06-07 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi, I just got myself a copy of manuel göttching´s E2-E4 on racket records (is this the original release?) , but I hear that it has not much bass and is very treble, is this the track or is it the pressing? (I know that older records have not that much bass, off course... but there is almost no b

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-27 Thread nathan goode
hiya > lets > not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live. 'UR Live in Utrecht, Holland' is the name of the track, it's basically the start of the punisher live. bought this album off of a mate for $15AUD a while back, very good purchase me thinks. out. nath np

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread peter mueller
10:24 AM Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties : i've got one of them on essence, didn't know : it was so rare though. only cost me a tenner : from ex-orbit resident nigel walker, and you're : right it's dark. : there are 2 tracks from mills on the one s

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Stewart Fernandez
;; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties > I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's "Punisher" sound > great over a large sound system right about now? wish I had bought it back > in the day.

RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Simon Walley
From: "Jongsma, K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Did 'The Fury' had Piranha on the b-side? Rolando once spum The Punisher in Eindhoven, yeah that's hardcore-techno... I think 'The Fury' was the original UR-018 - this wa

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Gary Girard
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2001-04-26 Thread tim maughan
on 26/4/01 2:38 am, scott mcgill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any idea on the availability of an edit that I heard Dave Clarke play eons > ago. > It was a different version of Suburban's 'Nocturbulous Behaviour' straight > out of the D. hey, i think i remember that..it was kinds more distorted a

RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Did 'The Fury' had Piranha on the b-side? Rolando once spum The Punisher in Eindhoven, yeah that's hardcore-techno... > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Sean Deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's > "Punisher" sound > great over a lar

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread rob webb
Stewart Caig: As far as I know the whole of the UR records back catalogue is still readily available, but there are a couple of releases that are rare. couple more for the list: the original UR-021 was the "Piranha" ep, but this has since been replaced by "Crime Report" which was a companio

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread paul
. lovely. innercity - Original Message - From: scott mcgill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; Tyler Hanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties > Any idea on the availability of a

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread g . j . robinson
>Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl >by now? Which ones are left & how rare are they? Which ones are virtually >impossible to track down? This week www.hardwax.com has got the following UR releases back in stock Yolanda Your Time Is Up UR 001 Underground Re

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread ryan burns
, now we are just snowballing. Here goes: SoulSaver is a track on Interstellar that is by Gerald Mitchell. [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of Gerald Mitchell, i see hes got a track on 430 west. is it similar to the track on Interstellar? is it good?

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread scott mcgill
ferent but very good track by the Pharcyde. What does this tell us? I don't know. Scott Mc - Original Message - From: "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Vince Woolums
nesday, April 25, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties > :::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate. > > close though :) > > as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks

RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
:::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate. close though :) as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks too trying to cover myself :) andrew

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread David Gillies
available to the public. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:15 AM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties > > :::so what is the real deal on the Z t

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread scott mcgill
Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Flower mate. SoulFlower is no way available to the public. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:15 AM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks wa

Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread scott mcgill
]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties > >> Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ > >>issue only, > > >>Peace > >>Stewart > >

RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
:::so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever :::unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there :::other factors? :::I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm :::thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the sa

Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread Tyler Hanel
>> Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ >>issue only, >>Peace >>Stewart so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there other factors? I think one or two has uncleared/unclear

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread laura gavoor
so you might be a fan then, eh? ;) From: "Stewart Caig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Newsgroup" <313@hyperreal.org>, "Charles Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:43:35 +0100 A

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-26 Thread laura gavoor
Truly surreal.I'll have to check out Dream & Desire as I've not heard of that release before. Is it under Ashram Temple or Manuel's name? From: Charles Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:5

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-25 Thread John Osselaer
"Charles Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties > Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no > overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A & B of

Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-25 Thread Stewart Caig
ut mainly downtempo beaty stuff and lets not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live. Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: "Charles Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:53 PM Subject:

RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties

2001-04-25 Thread Sean Deason
box again. sean -Original Message- From: Charles Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those neede

Re: [313] E2-E4

2001-04-23 Thread Hansi Güçlüer
And wasn't there a rumour that Hawtin and Aquaviva bought four copies each when they found the reissue in England (must have been in Jockey Slut-magazine)? Mas importante, then! :) /H Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk addr

RE: [313] E2-E4 (was most important??)

2001-04-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Hansi Güçlüer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: maandag 23 april 2001 11:51 > Aan: Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org > Onderwerp: [313] E2-E4 (was most important??) > > > It's the one they sampled for "Sueño