ays find myself imagining the chords from E2-E4 whenever I hear
the acapella of "Take Me Away"...
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| Sent: 04 December 2002 16:24
| To: The Music Institute
| Cc: Ian
| Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4's offspring
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> On review of the CD, I missed any obvious use of E2-E4,
> although "The Silver State" might have some snatched chords.
Well that's the one I was thinking of... I guess I can't say
for sure but it sounded like a satched snippet with heavy effects.
> Thanks, BTW Matt for reminding me what an a
I love the electronics-only side too, I just think he could have used a
little editing. It just seems to come alive when the guitar parts
bounce off the beat.
Or maybe I'm getting soured on repetition in my old age.
-d
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 09:00 AM, Sean Creen wrote:
I love
>I love the track too, but IMHO it's at its most interesting when the
guitar comes in halfway through.
Really? It's just the opposite for me - I hardly ever listen to side two; it
all just gets a bit too prog-rock and noodly for my liking, but side one is
genius...
Sean.
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On 12/3/02 7:39 PM, "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew MacQueen wrote:
> Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on "The Art of
> Travel" 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample
> prominently and cool re-work of it.
>
> Does anyone know the name of the
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 04:50 PM, Adam wrote:
I remember a Craig interview where he cites May playing it at the
music institute and being totally blown away. I think he mentioned
May getting it from either Mojo or on of his trips to Chicago, and
getting it from Lil Louis.
http://
Right ... I'm just saying I don't think it influenced more than a
couple of people.
Then again, maybe Disco Circus was one person's jam, YMO's
"Firecracker" another, etc.
-d
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 03:25 PM, techno wrote:
I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading
Matthew MacQueen wrote:
Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on "The Art of
Travel" 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample
prominently and cool re-work of it.
Does anyone know the name of the song Matt's talking about here?
Cheers!
G
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Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500
I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit
outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something
> 2 x C2 remixes on remake
> Basic channel remake of remake
> Sueno Latino
> Derrick May's mix of Sueno Latino + many other mixes
> plus there's are tracks by the Detroit Escalator company
> and by ismistik that essentially revamp e2-e4 in their own flavor
> without being straight covers or remixes
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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500
I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit
outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something
2 x C2 remixes on remake
Basic channel remake of remake
Sueno Latino
Derrick May's mix of Sueno Latino + many other mixes
plus there's are tracks by the Detroit Escalator company
and by ismistik that essentially revamp e2-e4 in their own flavor
without being straight covers or remixes.
I'm sure the
I remember a Craig interview where he cites May playing it at the music
institute and being totally blown away. I think he mentioned May
getting it from either Mojo or on of his trips to Chicago, and getting
it from Lil Louis.
http://www.deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm
Lil Louis live at the bi
I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading an Carl Craig
interview where he talks about the song being an inspiration going back to
1988, E2E4 was one of those remixes he had on acetate and
he wanted to release it so he got Manuel Gottsching permission, it was put
out on the Paper C
used bin..recordtime..always wondered who it belonged to first
-k
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Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching
you
you can pick up the cd from dancetracks in nyc or on their
website, that's where i got it.
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for the vinyl-impaired there's also a cd
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I'm not sure how many people were actua
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>
> yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex
> patterson drop E2-E4.
>
> also,
03, 2002 10:36 AM
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>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in
>> Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derr
down in the mid-'80s.
John
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>
>
> I'm not sure
I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in
Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that
everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo
one night?
-d
Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential
Flaccid house! brilliant.
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:01 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote:
You can call it Progressive House or flacid tech house
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| > I almost gagged the other day when
| > I heard a progressive mix of this on TV.
|
| Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is
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> I almost gagged the other day when
> I heard a progressive mix of this on TV.
Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but
don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what
was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on t
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> Hi, sorry if this has been covered already.
>
> yesterday a friend had me listen
Hi, sorry if this has been covered already.
yesterday a friend had me listen to this (fantastic) record and stated that
it was fundamental in defining and inspiring detroit techno. How true is
this?
thanks
fab.
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It's on an early Ash Ra Temple record. I think it was Seven Up but i am not
to sure about this...
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> Wibo asked:
>
> Can anyone tell me from what album the Göttsching track
> "Time" comes from? My
> dad has this track on a very vague German compilation with Jarre-like
> electro
02 11:34
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Subject: [313] E2-E4
can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984.
and for anyone in the area:
Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg
(Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22
Sorry, postponed for year 2003 !
> > can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records,
1984.
> >
> > and for anyone in the area:
> >
> > Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St.
Petersburg
> > (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m.
> >
sage -
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> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:34
> Subject: [313] E2-E4
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>
> can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984.
>
> and for anyone in
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can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984.
and for anyone in the area:
Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg
(Ru
can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984.
and for anyone in the area:
Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg
(Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m.
jd
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> Reply To: Maarten Baute
> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2002 10:15 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [313] E2-E4
>
> Hi,
>
> I just got myself a copy of manuel göttching´s E2-E4 on racket records (is
> this the original release?) , bu
Hi,
I just got myself a copy of manuel göttching´s E2-E4 on racket records (is
this the original release?) , but I hear that it has not much bass and is
very treble, is this the track or is it the pressing?
(I know that older records have not that much bass, off course... but there
is almost no b
hiya
> lets
> not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live.
'UR Live in Utrecht, Holland' is the name of the track, it's basically the start
of the punisher live.
bought this album off of a mate for $15AUD a while back, very good purchase me
thinks.
out.
nath
np
10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
: i've got one of them on essence, didn't know
: it was so rare though. only cost me a tenner
: from ex-orbit resident nigel walker, and you're
: right it's dark.
: there are 2 tracks from mills on the one s
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> I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's "Punisher"
sound
> great over a large sound system right about now? wish I had bought it back
> in the day.
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Subject: RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
Did 'The Fury' had Piranha on the b-side? Rolando once spum The Punisher in
Eindhoven, yeah that's hardcore-techno...
I think 'The Fury' was the original UR-018 - this wa
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on 26/4/01 2:38 am, scott mcgill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Any idea on the availability of an edit that I heard Dave Clarke play eons
> ago.
> It was a different version of Suburban's 'Nocturbulous Behaviour' straight
> out of the D.
hey, i think i remember that..it was kinds more distorted a
Did 'The Fury' had Piranha on the b-side? Rolando once spum The Punisher in
Eindhoven, yeah that's hardcore-techno...
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> I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's
> "Punisher" sound
> great over a lar
Stewart Caig:
As far as I know the whole of the UR records back catalogue is still
readily
available, but there are a couple of releases that are rare.
couple more for the list:
the original UR-021 was the "Piranha" ep, but this has since been replaced
by "Crime Report" which was a companio
.
lovely.
innercity
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> Any idea on the availability of a
>Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl
>by now? Which ones are left & how rare are they? Which ones are virtually
>impossible to track down?
This week www.hardwax.com has got the following UR releases back in stock
Yolanda Your Time Is Up UR 001
Underground Re
, now we are just snowballing.
Here goes: SoulSaver is a track on Interstellar that is by Gerald
Mitchell.
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speaking of Gerald Mitchell, i see hes got a track on 430 west. is it
similar to the track on Interstellar? is it good?
ferent but very good track by the Pharcyde. What
does this tell us? I don't know.
Scott Mc
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nesday, April 25, 2001 9:39 PM
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> :::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate.
>
> close though :)
>
> as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks
:::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate.
close though :)
as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks too
trying to cover myself :)
andrew
available to the public.
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> :::so what is the real deal on the Z t
Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Flower mate.
SoulFlower is no way available to the public.
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Subject: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
> >> Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ
> >>issue only,
>
> >>Peace
> >>Stewart
>
>
:::so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever
:::unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there
:::other factors?
:::I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm
:::thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the sa
>> Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ
>>issue only,
>>Peace
>>Stewart
so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever
unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there other factors?
I think one or two has uncleared/unclear
so you might be a fan then, eh? ;)
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:43:35 +0100
A
Truly surreal.I'll have to check out Dream & Desire as I've not heard of
that release before. Is it under Ashram Temple or Manuel's name?
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Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:5
"Charles Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
> Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no
> overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A & B of
ut mainly downtempo beaty stuff and lets
not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live.
Peace
Stewart
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box again.
sean
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no
overdubs or editing (apart from those neede
And wasn't there a rumour that Hawtin and Aquaviva
bought four copies each when they found the reissue in
England (must have been in Jockey Slut-magazine)?
Mas importante, then!
:)
/H
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> Van: Hansi Güçlüer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Aan: Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org
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>
>
> It's the one they sampled for "Sueño
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