--- lo sens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> more important than how it is fed in. And Safety
> Scissors and Sutekh had awesome sounds spilling out.
>
I second this. They are awesome as live acts and I cannot recommend you
see them enough. Also keep in mind that I've seen many many acts live,
these
> A copy of the pdf I got from Richie is at
www.openbar.com/Invitation_final.pdf
OOOH, I didn't know that this is what sparked the debate!!!
Hell, I think its a perfect marriage!!
The one draw back aside from the smell and static ;) is that I recognize
records by sight and by the littl
A copy of the pdf I got from Richie is at www.openbar.com/Invitation_final.pdf
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:45:49PM -0500, dr wrote:
>
> haven't found the actual Midem press release.. Tosh?
>
My comments on the entire thing is that some people hold to "tradition"
way too strongly, and often for
> P.S. Thanks for the tip about "Mode for Joe" on Blue Note, whoever that
> was...
Glad to oblige ;) My Blue Note tip for today is: Jackie McLean's
"Destination Out" (4165). Enjoy!
Jonny.
on 1/23/01 10:06 PM, lo sens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I pretty well agree with Dale's sentiments on this,
> and was disappointed at all the geriatric nostalgia on
> the list.
Let's please not get age-ist here. I've been accused of being both
geriatric and nostalgic, but I'm far from a viny
I pretty well agree with Dale's sentiments on this,
and was disappointed at all the geriatric nostalgia on
the list. There is no doubt in my mind that dance
music will move on from vinyl and turntables, though
to what I'm not sure. Safety Scissors and Sutekh gave
a hint over the weekend. Both playe
n Heard
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From: Kieran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:00 PM
To: Jayson B.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Jayson B. wrote:
] > > there will be a new file format
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Jayson B. wrote:
] > > there will be a new file format and it will
] > > have DVD quality sound.
] >
] >DIVX;), MPEG7??
]
] its talking about SACD (super audio cd). There's two formats, but they do
] the exact same thing.
]
] and they're better than dvd sound. They just
> True, but I think you are mistaken...What about
> digital artists that use the keyboard and mouse on
> their computer to tap into their minds and create
> imagery that before could never be realized. Are
> they not artists?."How can this
> be art? The machine does all the work."
So with Final Scratch nothing has changed about DJing? What about
picking up a 12" black circular piece of vinyl, putting it on a
rotating wheel, seeing where the grooves for the tracks and breaks
are, putting the needle on the record, listening for cue points,
pre-matching the turntable speed to
I tried to send this yesterday, but it never
showed. Then again about an hour ago. Nothing.
"Once is chance... Twice is coincedence...
Three times means war, Mr. Bond..."
>I ain't got nothing against technology. I think you're mi
At 10:26 AM 2001-01-23, FC3 Richards wrote:
the way computer technology has been going for the past 5 years MP3's will
become outdated in the next 2 years.
there will be a new file format and it will have DVD quality sound.
What file format are you referring to, or are you making this up
I think the laptop/CD thing is just a different way than the vinyl
method.
Both have their pluses and minuses, though there is definately a
nostalgic/stylistic
tradition and huge storehouse of skills for the vinyl-playing DJ in the
dance/electronic music scene.
When electrified instruments came
we've seen. some people don't value clinical accuracy, though...
Mike
From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:01:10 -
> there will be a new file f
umm, art without expression is called engineering. and it's boring.
From: "darw_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JARED WILSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at M
> there will be a new file format and it will
> have DVD quality sound.
DIVX;), MPEG7??
darw_n
its talking about SACD (super audio cd). There's two formats, but they do
the exact same thing.
and they're better than dvd sound. They just use a dvd player.
Its a five channel format t
> there will be a new file format and it will
> have DVD quality sound.
DIVX;), MPEG7??
darw_n
"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
search for "djdarwin" on napster
www.sphereproductions.com
www.mannequinodd.com
www.mp3.com/darw_n
>>"they [the artists] choose what others see or hear."
I say not so with repetition, but we all know where I can go with this!! ;)
>>"but only that everyone is exposed to the artists output."
why not remove the artist from the whole formula?
Or how about reducing his/her importance, level
nding forester :0)) good one
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From: "JARED WILSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
> > >Art in all
o use the present format
anymore. vinyl has stood the test of time, and it isn't going to disappear
anytime soon.
JEFF!
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Walsh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:54 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:
agreed. should have chosen a different word...
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: January 22, 2001 8:19:16 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
That coul
That could well be true. But I have spoken to people from Detroit who have
said similiar things. I am not sure about the word "entertainment", that is
kinda reductive and dismissive, to me anyway. It's artistry but a different
manifestation of it.
>getting off topic, and i honestly don't say this
. ;)
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: January 22, 2001 7:16:07 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
>c'mon people, do you really think hawtin and acquavi
I can see why John Aquaviva uses this program.It was the booking agent
for Tresor club, A. Oldham, and me...we jumped into a black stationwagon to
pick up Aquaviva from the Berlin-Tegel airport during Love Parade weekend. He
was to play that night at Tresor and he had a MOTHERLOAD of records
What I am saying is that when an artist is executing their craft they are
materializing their conceptual idea through expresion. they choose what others
see or hear. That does not mean that every individual "feels" the same way as
the artists does, but only that everyone is exposed to the artis
> > >Art in all forms is about expression.
Expression by whom??
darw_n
"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
search for "djdarwin" on napster
www.sphereproductions.com
www.mannequinodd.com
www.mp3.com/darw_n
>c'mon people, do you really think hawtin and acquaviva would endorse
>(unofficially or not) a product that amounts to sitting behind your laptop?
> or that makes djing *less* of an art?
Actually.
Well I think again this comes back to how you define DJing and what you
expect to experience
t MP3's sound the
same as vinyl (especially on a large system).
Cheers,
Dennis
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:
funny how we got off on this foo foo tangent and no one is discussing what the
product actually is or isn't. interesting that this was first announced in
1998:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/1998/FinalScratch.html
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM99/N2IT/FinalScratch-10.html
http
see a DJ stretched across a pair
of decks and thier very prescence helps control and rock the crowd.
Peace
Stewart
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:50 PM
Subject
>how is it any less of an "artform" when technology is involved?
I ain't got nothing against technology. I think you're missing the point.
Technology can make for better creativity or it can hamper it, it's not an
either/or argument. Do you really want to watch some dude just press a few
buttons
>Art in all forms is about expression.
I would have to disagree. That is a very modernistic view of art.
Jared Wilson
FTM Records
From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at
Very nicely stated.
>Art in all forms is about expression.
>
>Moods & emotions that an artform creates are different in each individual.
>
>Regardless of what the means are that are used to reach the musical end.
>what is created is what matters. (plagerisism aside) technological
>adva
Art in all forms is about expression.
Moods & emotions that an artform creates are different in each individual.
Regardless of what the means are that are used to reach the musical end. what
is created is what matters. (plagerisism aside) technological advancement
is not the problem.
> Yeah, I am on the artform side. I think it will be the demise of DJing the
> day that it becomes a machine-led thing.
how is it any less of an "artform" when technology is involved?
I think the real issue here is unwarranted nostalgia holding us back from
a better experience. How can you conf
Yeah, I am on the artform side. I think it will be the demise of DJing the
day that it becomes a machine-led thing.
Big name DJs can have a clause in their contract where someone carries their
boxes for them anyway, either that or they can carry them around, build up
their muscle tone and look lik
on one hand, the relief of not carrying about 80+
extra lbs while traveling is understood BUT
personally, I have to side with the artform arguement.
Seeing a set being pieced together with records and
the DJ making the set come together is part of the
thrill and artform. It seems we're getting too
And even then...
Same reason why I refuse to play any CD's applies here as
well. Pushing buttons has nothing to do with dj'ing as far
as I am concerned.
Imagine the joy of finally finding that record you've been
after for several years, and then compare it to
downloading that track from the in
The smell of brand new vinyl out of the sleeve, the
crackle of the record under the needle... there's
something spiritual and special about vinyl that no
other media can replicate... Old vinyl especially.
I don't want your stupid toy... Who cares about the
future... time and forces move around and
Sounds horrible, going through the box is part of the artform. It would make
it too calculated, you can't flick through your box, land on something else
and think hmmm, now maybe I can play that instead. The advantage is that it
overcomes the dreaded, 'the airline lost my records, damn I will have
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