Yes saw this on Boomkat yesterday...
click and read...
http://www.boomkat.com/search.cfm?artist=MOODYMANtitle=Im%20Doing%20Fine%20%2F%20Black%20Mahogany
Rav
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:09 PM
To:
Alex Bond wrote:
Moodymann got bootlegged - I presume by the same peeps who did the Ugly
Edits Booties.
It's his own tracks though (albeit with some hefty samples in there...).
Surely this is a bit out of order is it not?
That may be so, but releasing full-priced one-sided, 4-minute-long
However, where does it go from here?
If they get away with this, then everyone may as well start bootlegging
anything that goes on ebay for more than $75.
Amp dog knight - feeling fine is just new... 3 months old... you can buy
this for normal 12 price..
And I bought the KDJ17 for $30 last
So why would you want to bootleg this?
Well, I'm not too sure really. Was really interested to hear what other
people thought about it. That's my point, I don't get it. Surely they must
be doing it for financial purposes, which, in my opinion, in this small
industry, is bang out of order
Two things:
1. I don't think that someone is asking for it if they overprice
their releases. Obviously vinyl is hugely important, but it's not our
right to be able to buy records at the price we want. That's a
justification for theft - which is what bootlegging is. I should note
that I'm only
i guess the question then is how much would you make on, say, 2000
bootlegged copies of this type?
Well, this is it. Not a great deal. Around £500 ish? (depending on what
distributors would pay you for the record)
Surely there's easier ways of making a hooky monkey?
the other point of view is
, 2003 1:39 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) MM Bootlegs + RS at LOST
Two things:
1. I don't think that someone is asking for it if they overprice
their releases. Obviously vinyl is hugely important, but it's not our
right to be able to buy records at the price we want. That's
I think it's a little harsh to say he deserves it, nobody deserves theft
(truism alert). Maybe the important point here is that this guy makes some
incredible music, and if you want it, you buy it! I was gonna get the
bootleg, just to have it, really. Can't find it though (yet).
I know if it was
im not bothered if a tune is only a few months old but when people bootleg
old stuff it really upsets me, esp considering its happened on records that
i have spent 5 years looking for
yeah but the value of the boot is most of the time less than the original
and it's nicer to have that
i guess the question then is how much would you make on, say, 2000
bootlegged copies of this type?
Well, this is it. Not a great deal. Around £500 ish? (depending on what
distributors would pay you for the record)
Surely there's easier ways of making a hooky monkey?
that little? ok a
i agree with you.
i also disagree with p2p mp3 pirating... but lets not go there.
ab
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From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:53 AM
To: Alex Bates
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) MM Bootlegs + RS at LOST
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Sent: 11 March 2003 15:27
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Subject: Re: (313) MM Bootlegs
i guess the question then is how much would you make on, say, 2000
bootlegged copies of this type?
Well, this is it. Not a great deal. Around £500 ish? (depending on
what
And I bought the KDJ17 for $30 last month.. wich is still too much in my
opinion...
Why is kdj going for so much..its the black mahogany ep isn't it. Can't u
go and buy it anywhere.. Sister ray or hmv I may be wrong
Yep, it's deffo too much, but I know it's been going for £40 ish
I don't think it's bootleg copies he has to worry about - it's mp3's and
final scratch he has to worry about..
as have all underground labels then in that casehmmm things are gonna
have to change in response to the technology over the next few years.
robin...
PM
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) MM Bootlegs
I don't think it's bootleg copies he has to worry about - it's mp3's and
final scratch he has to worry about..
His lawyer might have other reserves.. Someone else is making money off his
name!
It's all about the dollar bill y'all
in profit as before...
Or something like that... This will take place over 10 years I
expect...
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From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 March 2003 15:35
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) MM Bootlegs
I don't think it's bootleg copies he has
thanks for those figures otto, puts it into perspective
if i was gonna boot soemthing then i'd want to sell every copyMM is
the perfect target then surely.
robin...
i guess the question then is how much would you make on, say, 2000
bootlegged copies of this type?
If you go through a
Robin wrote:
it's a line drawing thing then isn't it, as you say we do these jobs cos
we think the money is enough to cover what we think we're worth (well
kinda)
kenny dixon jnr obviously thinks he's worth the money that his 12s go for
and does the one sided/limited thing cos he deserves the
If you'd put that great track that you would buy the
single-sided EP for, on a three-track EP with two average tracks that you
wouldn't think of buying the EP for, the three-tracker would sell a lot
more copies than the one-tracker even though it's the exact same great
track that people buy it
If the records were easier to get hold of then there would be no point in
buying the bootleg. However, it's put out in very limited numbers and is
highly sort after and thus the value of the records reach a premium. Great
for collectors, and the annoying gits that buy up shops full of stock so
apparently the amp dog knight's 12 was sold out in most places within a
couple of weeks, and there was a huge demand [anyone following the dhp
messageboard can testify] so that might explain the bootleg.
as for asking for it? i dunno, that is kind of a harsh statement. i think
kenny dixon
apparently the amp dog knight's 12 was sold out in most places within a
couple of weeks, and there was a huge demand [anyone following the dhp
messageboard can testify] so that might explain the bootleg.
For the record..what is the difference between the bootleg and the repress
and the
Besides,
I saw some of the early moodymann releases on gemm.com. I thought it was
Terrence Parker who sold them...
Not that expensive if my memory serves my right.
http://TPMusic.gemm.com
I was actually talking about the KDJ 05 first pressing...
I never saw one of these... the first
From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And I bought the KDJ17 for $30 last month.. wich is still too much in my
opinion...
Why is kdj going for so much..its the black mahogany ep isn't it. Can't u
go and buy it anywhere.. Sister ray or hmv I may be wrong
No Paul... it is one of those which
For the record..what is the difference between the bootleg and the repress
and the original... Do they look the same
The bootleg has a white label with Kenny´s kdj logo on it..
The writing on the label is just like the writing on the theo parrish ugly
edits bootlegs.
Hope I helped you,
as well,
which made it already some sort of bootleg, and now i.m.o. bootleg was
bootlegged.. ah well
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From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: (313) MM Bootlegs
However, where
That's because Theo starting pressing them up himself , as a Sound
Signature type record.
I have the original on KDJ, and then about 2 years ago, he started
repressing up the entire
Sound Signature catalog pretty regularly, and one of these represses was
Theo's , Took me
All the Way back, but
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