I don't think traditional African musical concepts on rhythm was as big of an
influence on early house and techno as you may think.
The rhythm arrangements had more to do with 16 step drum machine sequencer of
the Roland XOX boxes.
I remember talking to Adonis on the phone in the mid 90's when he
. Our music isn't black enough. It's too
fast, there's no
rappin, mackin and pimpin in it, it's not urban
enough. House is too
gay. I have stopped worrying about it. If I was
waiting to get paid
from negroes, I'd be living under the overpass on
I-75 and Mack. Or
living in a refrigerator box
...
out,
Nick (Dj Pacific:)
--- christos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. Our music isn't black enough. It's
too
fast, there's no
rappin, mackin and pimpin in it, it's not
urban
enough. House is too
gay. I have stopped worrying about it. If I
was
waiting to get paid
from
One reason behind this, is that 90% of Americans
think that techno or electronic music in general is
a European thing.
There's a lot of truth to that though. Many of the
early technoists borrowed(or stole) heavilly from the
german or european sound. No denying that.
The mainstream music
Goa is related to heavy metal music and gets it's
sound from that... It doesn't have much to do with
previous forms of electronic music (ie detroit
influenced) at all...
Nick (Dj Pacific:)
--- mee-thod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, what's wrong with bringing a little
trippiness into the
-Original Message-
From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: christos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
Date: Monday, December 11, 2000 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough...
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You like what you like regardless of
it's origins unless you're a nazi
=20Walsh?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough...
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For f**ks sake Why do we have to go over the same
sh*t again and again week after f**king week I
thought we had come to some sort of conclusion but I
realise that non
I personally would love to see something like
goa-style trippiness and experimentation explored in
Detroit techno. I've heard hints of it in a few
things and its been quite fun.
this sounds interesting.. can you give some examples?
In a message dated 12/11/00 7:40:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Who gives a f**k about the colour of the music? I
don't... I don't exclusively listen to detroit techno
either because I'm not biased and neither are most
ordinary people.
It is not about the colour of music but more like the
when I say rhythm I 'm talking about rhythm as a focal point versus melody.
That is an African musical concept. And if it's Latino influenced that's
still African.
Where do you think they get their stuff from???
Rhythim is Rhythim,
Five
Well...I think the biggest concern with dance music is that it
becomes synonymous with the trippy drug scene. We're definitely
moving towards that.
Hey, what's wrong with bringing a little trippiness into the music??
Trippiness is like communism an evil thing and should not be in
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 18:15:03 EST
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough...
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
the problem isnt the type of drugs--its the kids using them. give the same
16 yr old acid...they will still create the same problems they do on K
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 17:58:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: c c [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough...
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, c c wrote:
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well...I think the biggest concern
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:05:49 +0100
From: Danny Wolfers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough...
Well...I think the biggest concern with dance music is that it
becomes synonymous with the trippy drug scene. We're definitely
moving towards
What people mean by that statement is the original techno sound was
pioneered by Detroit dance producers like Juan Atkins in the mid to late
80's before that he was releasing electro tracks as Cybotron.
Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit on Ten was the groundbreaking
compilation that made the
snip
If trippynis becomes involved in art it becomes crap.
snip
just don't say this to any fans of dali, picasso, escher, van gogh, the
doors, pink floyd etc etc etc etc etc.
kyle
TOO BLACK TOO STRONG!
:)
aziza
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:27:19 EST
when I use the term Black I am referring to people of the African
diaspora
and African musical
I dont quite understand what you mean by American radio and its racist
programming, lets see, if I tune into an American rap station and all they
play is rap, I must say..they are racist because they are not playing
Swedish techno and some times I just wish they werent racist and played some
Joel
American radio just like everything in America is divided into White and
Black.
Detroit Techno is not considered Black because it is not embraced by Vibe
magazine or programmed onto R B station formats.
Rock and Roll is seen as a white music even though its innovators are
Black ;Chuck
Hehehe this reminds me of when I first started listening to techno and for
some strange reason I thought Jeff Mills was white
Someone brought up Richie Hawtin and it not mattering that he is white
because he is an incredible producer. I wonder if so many people would
ahve had a problem with
on 12/8/2000 9:24 PM, Jayson B. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do predictability, obviousness, and sentimentality work?
they work perfectly.
But humor me a bit, and explain your reasons for saying sentimentality.
Sentimentality is a fairly common term in music discussion/criticism. As
I
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, christos wrote:
I agree. Our music isn't black enough. It's too fast, there's no
rappin, mackin and pimpin in it, it's not urban enough. House is too
gay. I have stopped worrying about it. If I was waiting to get paid
from negroes, I'd be living under the overpass
genres dont come from a place, they originate from
other music styles, I hope you are not trying to tell me that blacks
invented music
Fahd Al Noor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Albuquerque, NM
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:26:08 -, Jonny McIntosh wrote:
I agree. Our music isn't black enough. It's too fast
- Original Message -
From: Fahd Al Noor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [313] not black enough
I still dont quite understand the statement Techno came from Detroit
very interesting
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 02:09:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well...I think the biggest concern with dance music is that it becomes
synonymous with the trippy drug scene. We're definitely moving towards
that.
Hey, what's wrong with bringing a little
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, c c wrote:
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well...I think the biggest concern with dance music is that it
becomes synonymous with the trippy drug scene. We're definitely
moving towards that.
Hey, what's wrong with bringing a little trippiness into
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Fahd Al Noor wrote:
I still dont quite understand the statement Techno came from Detroit
very interesting concept..how things come from a place, out of the blue
and how people like to ignore everything that took place priorly
Nothing comes from a place..it is originated
the problem isnt the type of drugs--its the kids using them. give the same
16 yr old acid...they will still create the same problems they do on K or
anything else. the older you get, the more responsible you get. yes, there r
some (very few) exceptions.
mike
I agree. Our music isn't black enough. It's too fast, there's no
rappin, mackin and pimpin in it, it's not urban enough. House is too
gay. I have stopped worrying about it. If I was waiting to get paid
from negroes, I'd be living under the overpass on I-75 and Mack. Or
living
To be able to go agianst the current black musician stereotype is VERY
difficult. The media has burned in the minds of America's youth that
black culture is all about chillin in the ghetto, and sex.
I digress. The media is not the only culprit in this stereotype. Black men
themselves
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