On 3 Nov, 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote:
> > m trying to export a namespace from my file server (that is a
> > namespace's bootes) to my terminal (logging as a client), i tried to
> > do:
> > servname% exportfs -a -r /tmp (from file server)
> > but i have this error:
> > exportfs
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:59 PM, jfmxl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My ISP was blocking port 25 outgoing, so I could send mail to my own
> mailserver. It turned out that sendmail was listening on port 587 as
> well, so I use that instead.
>
> I assumed my ISP was blocking outgoing port 25 to stop c
Here in Saudi Arabia, most ISPs are happy to provide what I like to call
"five sevens" service.
I think that it would be awesome to have a net connection stable enough to
run a smtp or http server.
Then again I think it would be nice to have an ISP where I don't have to run
"pull" 3 or 4 times in o
the manual for lex says ..
lex -9
should generate a Plan9 compatible code with u.h and libc.h included,
otherwise 8c and 8l will generate error searching for vsprintf(...)
/Prem
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:54 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> %{
>> %}
>>
>> %%
>> stop print("Stop!!
Thanks for replaying...
Sorry but i got confusion about your replay, i think i don't
understand very well
I want to make it clear first that the file/auth server are the same
pc, and the cpuservers are the nodes of the cluster (5 nodes), which
are diskless, and a terminal (my laptop).
I'd like to u
Was really bummed not to be able to make IWP9 this year. A note to
whoever is considering hosting the next one -- it would be really cool
for us corporate types if we could move it into the first two quarters
of the year as its usually around July that our travel budgets get
slashed. I think it w
> Was really bummed not to be able to make IWP9 this year. A note to
> whoever is considering hosting the next one -- it would be really cool
> for us corporate types if we could move it into the first two quarters
> of the year as its usually around July that our travel budgets get
> slashed. I
Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would
be great for me.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Putting in a request for somewhere in the Northeast U.S. next year,
> if people are willing to accept the weather. I'd offer to host it
> here in Rochester (at RIT, I think they'd go f
> So we're building up direct (encrypted) uucp links again. Not just to
> get around the regulation, but also not to let the spies learn what's
> going through the wire.
>
>
why uucp? ppp works just fine for direct connections.
- erik
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Fco. J. Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would
> be great for me.
>
Clearly you just want to go skiing ;)
-eric
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Everyone has write access to the plan 9 wiki.
>
> hmm, perhaps I didn't look hard enough, but I didn't see anything
> like an "edit" button etc ... ;-o
Put in Acme Wiki.
64-bit sparc compiler would be first step
-eric
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:44 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:58 AM, simplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone tried this?
>>
>> http://www.opensparc.net/
>>
>>
>
> I've been wanting to
> Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would
> be great for me.
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Putting in a request for somewhere in the Northeast U.S. next year,
> > if people are willing to accept the weather. I'd offer to host it
> > here in Rochester (at RIT, I t
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:03 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i have offered to host in athens, ga. home of coraid,
> the university of georgia, and almost never any snow.
> we're just outside atlanta.
>
I like it being near a major airport, and atlanta is a very common
one-stop
> i have offered to host in athens, ga. home of coraid,
> the university of georgia, and almost never any snow.
> we're just outside atlanta.
That would work better really well for me, as I'm
in Memphis--much easier to drive to Atlanta than
to the northeast, or Greece for that matter...
And since
Hi all,
Another call for a photo of me giving the talk. It would significantly
increase the value of the shirt!
Links mentioned in Volos:
Synth chip (open group):
http://groups.google.com/group/casella
Dis on a chip (just ask and ye shall receive):
http://groups.google.com/group/dis-on-a-chip
we want to avoid the mistake I made at the last linuxbios meeting --
attaching it to an expensive conference. keep it cheap.
ron
Hi All,
I'm accomplishing a 9grid, that is composed of a file server, 2
cluster (diskless cpuserver nodes) and a terminal..
I'm trying to connect to a cpuserver (node of 9grid) from a terminal,
to launch some tasks, but i don't really know how to do it, i was
trying with cpu(1) command, i was doing
> trying with cpu(1) command, i was doing:
> cpu -h fileservername
> and the prompt changed from term% to cpu%, and i supposed that was
> correct, but when i tried to connect to a cpuserver (all nodes are
> diskless)
> cpu -h cpuservername
> the prompt didn't change, is that correct? before
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another call for a photo of me giving the talk. It would significantly
> increase the value of the shirt!
cinap just gave you one!
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/dscn0182.jpg
If
I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and
i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway,
the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected
by armando) to a node on the cluster (diskless cpu server), i thought
that cpu command was r
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and
> i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway,
> the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected
> by armando) to a node o
I have enquired and am settled with Sydney in the first week of
November, if if you want that. Everything All ready to go. Tell me if
you want a different month.
brucee
(as much as i enoy this greek expedition i can't take tiger to the US,
without great expense and possible harm).
On Mon, Nov 1
> %{
> %}
>
> %%
> stop print("Stop!! recieved\n");
> start print("Start -> recieved\n");
> %%
the fix for this should be to add
#include
#include
between %{ and %} but this doesn't work because
lex includes stdio.h before it processes %{ %}.
you'll need to write a shim, fixlex.c, that goes l
Hi,
I was trying to learn lex/yacc decided to use Plan9 (9vx) for writing
example programs. I wrote the following
start.l-
%{
%}
%%
stopprint("Stop!! recieved\n");
start print("Start -> recieved\n");
%%
-
I lex'ed it
-> lex -9 start.l
-> 8c lex.yy.c
-> 8l lex.yy.8
-
* erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So we're building up direct (encrypted) uucp links again. Not just to
> > get around the regulation, but also not to let the spies learn what's
> > going through the wire.
> >
> >
>
> why uucp? ppp works just fine for direct connections.
we're
My ISP was blocking port 25 outgoing, so I could send mail to my own
mailserver. It turned out that sendmail was listening on port 587 as
well, so I use that instead.
I assumed my ISP was blocking outgoing port 25 to stop captured
machines from spamming. Why do you think yours stopped incoming por
Does anyone tried this?
http://www.opensparc.net/
> I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and
> i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway,
> the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected
> by armando) to a node on the cluster (diskless cpu server), i thought
> that cpu com
>So we IMHO should learn from all the big "community" projects how
>to attract people and get them involved with minimal effort. It's
>not for us, it's for them ...
i know, but have you spoken to the auther of the comment below:
>Mozilla folks aren't very open to innovation (no matter how old/ma
Port 587 is mostly used for TLS encrypted SMTP. Blocking outgoing 25 is
madness. Email is one rudimentary service everyone expects from their
Internet connectivity and not everybody uses web mail interfaces.
machines from spamming. Why do you think yours stopped incoming port
25? Probably just
I´m trading snow & extra hours flying. :)
I don´t like snow too much, but making a long trip
longer is worse, IMHO.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Fco. J. Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Northeast US,
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 09:36:02AM -0600, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Fco. J. Ballesteros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would
> > be great for me.
> >
>
> Clearly you just want to go skiing ;)
sheeesh, ba
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i have offered to host in athens, ga. home of coraid,
> the university of georgia, and almost never any snow.
> we're just outside atlanta.
>
> - erik
I too would prefer Athens, GA as I live there. Also I would lik
BigPond in Australia blocks outgoing - you can only use their mail server.
I spoke to one of their "security experts" and ended up asking "what
if my remote mailserver was on port 80?". Long pause.
"Well the decision has been made."
"Well good, I'll change to port 80 - have a nice day."
brucee
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:58 AM, simplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone tried this?
>
> http://www.opensparc.net/
>
>
I've been wanting to ... no time.
Somebody should however. It's quite neat.
ron
what a good man!
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Another call for a photo of me giving the talk. It would significantly
>> increase the value of the shirt!
>
> cinap just gave you one!
i was sure my copy of pathalias would somehow come into its own again.--- Begin Message ---
* erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So we're building up direct (encrypted) uucp links again. Not just to
> > get around the regulation, but also not to let the spies learn what's
> > going thr
Curiously BigPond (Big, Big, Stagnant Pond) does not block incoming
80. So if you can guess my IP you can be entertained.
Maybe I'll stir the Pond again in the future.
brucee
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i was sure my copy of pathalias would someh
Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would
be great for me.
Clearly you just want to go skiing ;)
If you want skiing then you want to hold it in Whistler (British
Columbia).
But I would *strongly* recommend against skipping a year if it's held
there :-P
Colocation with Bondi Beach may not be bad either.
http://www.chunder.com/may96/ravesis.html
You, and Summit Police, have met Ms Wendy - Mr Hensbergen
Pickup-Truck. I will give in and fly if needed. What else do I do with
all these damned frequent flyer miles?
With all due respect,
brucee
On M
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
Northeast US, say january or feb., skipping next year, would
be great for me.
Clearly you just want to go skiing ;)
If you want skiing then you want to hold it in Whistler (British
Columbia).
But I would *strongly* recommend against skipping a year if it's held
the
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On Nov 10, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
There are things about Whi$tler that would pose problems for some.
Is it possible to rent a room in the Longhorn? And if there are too
many people, some of us could go on Blackcomb.
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If you want skiing then you want to hold it in Whistler (British
Columbia).
But I would *strongly* recommend against skipping a year if it's held
there :-P
There are things about Whi$tler that would pose problems for some.
Whistler got its name from the common reaction to readers of its
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Here's a screenshot of Windows 7:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Windows7Desktop.png
I think this looks familiar.
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On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 06:47 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Sure. But that would an argument in favor of the Plan 9/Inferno
> > kernel architecture, not the protocol itself. Nobody's denying
> > that 9P is a perfect match to that kind of kernel architecture.
> > What I'm trying to find out is whet
My orthopaedic surgeon would disown me - and he's a valuable asset.
brucee
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> If you want skiing then you want to hold it in Whistler (British
>>> Columbia).
>>>
>>> But I would *strongly* recommend against skipping
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 01:55 +0900, sqweek wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The only question is -- where such a note
> > is supposed to be sent to?
> >
> > Can someone, please, educate me on the moral equivalent of process
> > groups, s
On 10-Nov-08, at 10:56 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
I wish 9p:// URL worked out of the box in Firefox, but it doesn't.
Shameless plug:
It does if you install the Angled extension: http://www.kix.in/projects/web9/
Ok, I lied - ninep:// works, 9p:// doesn't :)
--
Anant
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite
> unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make
> a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order
> for the notes to b
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 15:17 +0900, sqweek wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p
> >> file servers you know of, say on the plan9 wiki, and
> >> then
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 14:49 -0800, ron minnich wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite
> > unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make
> > a local end of a c
cpu is just great tutorial.
notes forwarder, well, I am stil unsure.
ron
FYI:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3835498/The_funniest_and_cleverest_time_travel_movie_ever_made__
/G.
--- Den tis 2008-11-04 skrev Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Från: Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Ämne: Re: [9fans] mmap
> Till: 9fans@9fans.net
> Datum: tisdag 4 november 2008
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 11:26 +, Steve Simon wrote:
> How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p
> file servers you know of, say on the plan9 wiki, and
> then email 9fans asking them to add any that you have
> missed?
That's the plan!
> I can see how such a thing might be a useful reso
>And even we we stick with the "resources
>as regular files" approach on the client you're stuck with mostly POSIX
>environment + locking (+caching). POSIX means symlink(2) and mknod(2)
no, because (unless i've misunderstood) they are accessing resources
(as regular files) on a remote server, and
> At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite
> unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make
> a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order
> for the notes to be properly delivered. That was a sad discovery.
>
> Another discovery was that
> ... would you really honestly say that rolling out your
> own notes forwarder is a *neat* trick? As opposed to
> be able to use basic system's FS functionality?
ok, how would you implement it, then? how would you deliver a note to
a process that's running on a remote machine? would you be introd
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 23:38 +, C H Forsyth wrote:
> >And even we we stick with the "resources
> >as regular files" approach on the client you're stuck with mostly POSIX
> >environment + locking (+caching). POSIX means symlink(2) and mknod(2)
>
> no, because (unless i've misunderstood) they are
>But wouldn't you agree that files kept on a remote POSIX file system is
>an important and common class of remotes resources for which we don't
>quite have a consensus on how to use 9P?
yes, but both your examples are things of purely local significance.
the symbolic links point to something local
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 16:42 -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
> > ... would you really honestly say that rolling out your
> > own notes forwarder is a *neat* trick? As opposed to
> > be able to use basic system's FS functionality?
>
> ok, how would you implement it, then? how would you deliver a no
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have at least three different attempts at solving that: 9P2000.u,
> Skip's Text/Rext and a "parallel tree" approach, but no consensus(*)
>
four. My original v9fs added 3 ops for supporting symlinks and
hardlinks.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> We have at least three different attempts at solving that: 9P2000.u,
>> Skip's Text/Rext and a "parallel tree" approach, but no consensus
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 00:14 +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> >But wouldn't you agree that files kept on a remote POSIX file system is
> >an important and common class of remotes resources for which we don't
> >quite have a consensus on how to use 9P?
>
> yes, but both your examples are things of pu
> I would like to be able to import the /proc (or similar) filesystem from
> the remote machine and bind it over the files that my local kernel uses
> to send notes to the proxy process. That's how my "ideal world" model
> would work. Observe how that was also the first suggestion on the "notes
> t
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Curiously BigPond (Big, Big, Stagnant Pond) does not block incoming
> 80. So if you can guess my IP you can be entertained.
>
> Maybe I'll stir the Pond again in the future.
(obBoyd)
Pond's that aren't stirred periodically b
Why does your build fail? Lack of vision to the extreme resulting in a
completely horrible way of building things that has grew and grew to
something that not even its mother could not love.
In some sense it's good that it fails. If you want to build things
that way then don't use plan9. Seriously
* Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> P.S. On a similar note I'd like to add that the requirement outlined
> above seem to be quite typical in today's world. See, on one hand new
> kind of resources (take flickr or youtube as an example) are very
Actually, I've got flickr-9P on my 2d
* Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >So we IMHO should learn from all the big "community" projects how
> >to attract people and get them involved with minimal effort. It's
> >not for us, it's for them ...
>
> i know, but have you spoken to the auther of the comment below:
>
> >Mozilla
Actually, I've got flickr-9P on my 2do-list [ ... ]
Is there any hope of re-winding the clock back to some time pre-
September?
* Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess because terms of service for a home user do not cover serving from
> the user's site. Ron Minnich said it's his home machine so I assume he has
> paid for a plan with the word "home" somewhere in the plan title or the
> ToS. ISPs like to dis
* Robert Raschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Everyone has write access to the plan 9 wiki.
> >
> > hmm, perhaps I didn't look hard enough, but I didn't see anything
> > like an
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Robert Raschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > * sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Everyone has write access to the plan 9 wiki.
>> >
> We have at least three different attempts at solving that: 9P2000.u,
> Skip's Text/Rext and a "parallel tree" approach, but no consensus(*)
Text/Rext are Bruce's idea which he prototyped for Styx. i might have
asked for something more crude to deal with lock requests.
> Perhaps someone should sit down and write an win32 driver for it ;-)
there is one.
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