Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan vdhar...@gmail.com wrote: hi, sorry if i have missed any prior discussion, but i would like to mention that i am curious about this effort. to me, iphone (or similar device) seems to be an appropriate device that is small enough  

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi uriel, i guess i should have revised the mail before sending. i just checked how acme looks in this tool. i didnt try to use all features of acme. i am sure it will have problems. the original post in engadget also says it is not fully ready. this apart, long back when iphone was released, i

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread André Günther
I know it's difficult to argue with you, also because just about every email of you is repeating the same stuff. Now the VNC might suffice objection is new and i want to reply to it. Again I am repeating myself here, but obivously there's not other way telling you: The only thing I

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Federico G. Benavento
I'm impressed by how the it'd be nice position is stronger than it'd be useful one. -- Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread yy
2009/3/31 André Günther andr...@gmx.de: The only thing I personally see to make remote access on devices such as the iPhone an useful and enjoyable experience is to work with the multitouch capabilities. Thus providing an easy way for mouse chording and also certain gesture support for

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a device and/or multitouch in general is a shame -- wouldn't it be nice to fix that. This is a very good point. As much as I like rio, I can't help but

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 AM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a device and/or multitouch in general is a shame -- wouldn't it be nice to fix

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 AM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread Fco. J. Ballesteros
To: 9fans@9fans.net Reply-To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Tue Mar 31 17:00:43 CET 2009 Subject: Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 AM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-31 Thread David Leimbach
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: I'm impressed by how the it'd be nice position is stronger than it'd be useful one. Some would argue plan 9 isn't useful at all. In fact, I bet most people would argue that, and that we're a minority. How

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-30 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote: to ron's latest point: seeing it on the G1 would be great, too. but we have a student with an iPhone who's said he'd like to do it, and at least a handful of people here have said they'd like to see it, and have the

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-30 Thread Jack Johnson
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: How many people can actually claim that they will for certain use such iphone drawterm? Because the idea of using rio or acme from a touchscreen doesn't seem very practical to me (to put it very mildly). Is there a similar project

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-30 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi, sorry if i have missed any prior discussion, but i would like to mention that i am curious about this effort. to me, iphone (or similar device) seems to be an appropriate device that is small enough to be a portable drawterm device (eventually it could become cheaper too). one can quickly

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-28 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 26-Mar-09, at 8:36 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: I have VNC lite on my iphone, which amazingly isn't jailbroken... -eric sure, but that's a client. i thought you were talking about exporting iPhone's screen

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-27 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com wrote: A 9vx, p9p or inferno cocoa port is a project that seems fairly I can do one of these; which is the most needed/wanted? Personally I have no preference, any of the three would be great to have, probably the p9p one is

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-27 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
If you take the right approach you should be able to pave the way for all three. Just keep the interface modular and implement the hooks for the target you are most comfortable with. -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 26,

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread André Günther
Hi, here's the guy again that made the original post: It seems the idea is almost dismissed and I am sorry for wasting your time once again, but I'd like to reply to some arguments: 1) Close the iPhone App and your drawterm session is gone A part of the project could be to write a server

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
If we got o/live running on iPhone it wouldnt matter if you drop the connection. The layout and all the editing state is kept in the cpu server. Thus it's very much like a screen blank/ resume instead of a shutdown, reboot. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:32 AM, André Günther wrote: [1] http://www.minithink.org/mock.jpg (Sorry for the image quality) I just tried giving that to Interface Builder. Apparently, toolbars can only be on the horizontal in Cocoa Touch. But this is an interesting start. The problem of how to

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: I think that gsoc is a good chance to get going stuff that we need and we will really use. My personal belief is that this is a really bad, if not dangerous criteria for projects. The goal for gsoc should

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread hiro
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:32 AM, André Günther wrote: [1] http://www.minithink.org/mock.jpg (Sorry for the image quality) I just tried giving that to Interface Builder. Apparently, toolbars can only be on the horizontal

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Federico G. Benavento
My personal belief is that this is a really bad, if not dangerous criteria for projects.  The goal for gsoc should not be to assign work for stuff 'we need' -- if we need something we should be doing it ourselves.  The goal should be to create interesting projects that attract new developers

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Uriel
Why not Inferno for iPhone or Symbian or Android? If one is going to research multitouch/small-scree GUIs, one will want to write applications, and being able to write apps in Limbo for either platform would be a big win, plus you get all the drawterm functionality for free, and could be the basis

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: My personal belief is that this is a really bad, if not dangerous criteria for projects.  The goal for gsoc should not be to assign work for stuff 'we need' -- if we need something we should be doing it ourselves.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/26 Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com wrote: I mean, drawterm for the iphone! why not for symbian? I'd have no problems with those suggestions either, as far as multitouch goes there are probably even

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/26 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: so please stop saying that 9vx or inferno make drawterm obsolete until that's actually true. Additionally, both 9vx and inferno do actually execute code, which would facilitate a breach of the SDK license. - erik --me

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Brian L. Stuart
9vx could replace drawterm in our environment, but i think the following work is required. 9vx needs - to be able to boot with no local files other than the executable, (i.e. directly from a plan 9 fs) Actually, I've been using it this way for a while. More precisely, when I'm on my home

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Akshat Kumar
especially if the kernel were (sort-of) pxe loaded so that clients would only need a local copy of the loader and changes would then be automaticly distributed.) Now that could be fun. I smell the feminine stench -- flowers and butterflies -- of GSoC project proposal in every character of

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Bakul Shah
I wasn't commenting on the GSoC; just reinforcing Eric's point that a multitouch interface would be very interesting in itself and pointing out that such a device in conjunction with a 3d extension would be even more fun! But yes, a multitouch interface design would make a nice GSoC project.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread erik quanstrom
especially if the kernel were (sort-of) pxe loaded so that clients would only need a local copy of the loader and changes would then be automaticly distributed.) Now that could be fun. I smell the feminine stench -- flowers and butterflies -- of GSoC project proposal in every

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:54:57PM -0500, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: One nice thing about drawterm is it lets you export the iphone's interfaces to Plan 9 -- that could lead to much more interesting I doubt you'll be able to do that with the insane restrictions Apple puts on

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:04 PM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:54:57PM -0500, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: One nice thing about drawterm is it lets you export the iphone's interfaces to Plan 9 -- that could lead to much more interesting I doubt you'll be able to

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread andrey mirtchovski
That makes zero sense.  As per the VNC discussion, there's already precedent for exporting screen and interfaces. That does leave room for apple to restrict access to camera, location, orientation, etc. -- but I see no reason why they would. as far as I can see Veency (the VNC server) is for

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Tom Lieber
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: That makes zero sense.  As per the VNC discussion, there's already precedent for exporting screen and interfaces. That does leave room for apple to restrict access to camera, location, orientation, etc. -- but I

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:04 PM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:54:57PM -0500, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: One nice thing about drawterm is it lets you export the iphone's interfaces to

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread andrey mirtchovski
let's rephrase the project. screw the iPhone temporarily (cool as it may be) and do a straight cocoa drawterm rewrite. a cocoa-native drawterm can explore all the functionality of the iphone interface (gestures, etc) and much more, without all the restrictions that apple forces on iPhone

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Uriel
A 9vx, p9p or inferno cocoa port is a project that seems fairly reasonable and I think everyone (even those that don't use Macs) can agree on (and then if somebody wants they can port it to the other draw users). uriel On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:50 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread lucio
the only problem is, without the iPhone tag it just doesn't sound so cool anymore, does it? :) Apple restrict the iPhone for the same reason all religions interfere with sex: it is a measurement of the success of their marketing that people still buy their product despite the discomfort. That

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread andrey mirtchovski
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: I have VNC lite on my iphone, which amazingly isn't jailbroken...      -eric sure, but that's a client. i thought you were talking about exporting iPhone's screen and interfaces as one would using a vnc server.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:39 PM, J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: That makes zero sense.  As per the VNC discussion, there's already precedent for exporting screen and interfaces. No, it makes perfect sense, if you actually know that there are VNC clients on the phone, but not servers.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
The difference between a VNC client and drawterm (from a rules perspective) is difficult to see i supposed the difference was /mnt/term

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: The difference between a VNC client and drawterm (from a rules perspective) is difficult to see i supposed the difference was /mnt/term Yeah, but there are plenty of apps which allow the phone to act as a file

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:36 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: I have VNC lite on my iphone, which amazingly isn't jailbroken...      -eric sure, but that's a client. i thought you were talking

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: I'm merely trying to debunk roadblocks which others seem to want to through in his way. I don't want to throw a roadblock in this student's way. (In fact, drawterm on iPhone benefits me too, though that benefit would come in or after

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-26 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/26 Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com: On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: I'm merely trying to debunk roadblocks which others seem to want to through in his way. I don't want to throw a roadblock in this student's way. (In fact, drawterm on iPhone benefits me too,

[9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread André Günther
Hi dear Plan9 fellows, my Name is André Günther. I'd like to participate in the gsoc with an implementation of a drawterm on the iPhone platform. In this Mail I'd like to do the following 2 things: 1) Say some words about me and motivation of this project. 2) Present

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
do we need drawterm for the iphone? is anyone going to use it? I mean, it's a tiny screen, typing on handhelds sucks, plus is not that there is killer app Plan 9 has that you _must_ run. am I forgetting something obvious? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:57 PM, André Günther andr...@gmx.de wrote:

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/25 Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com: do we need drawterm for the iphone? is anyone going to use it? I mean, it's a tiny screen, typing on handhelds sucks, plus is not that there is killer app Plan 9 has that  you _must_ run. am I forgetting something obvious? Tiny screen,

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
ok, you can't compare porting inferno to the ds with drawterm for the iphone drawterm is an app to get to a Plan 9 server, inferno is a self contained operating system where you can get the advantage of writing your own apps for it. for this port to be useful you need 1) an iphone; 2) a cpu

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
One nice thing about drawterm is it lets you export the iphone's interfaces to Plan 9 -- that could lead to much more interesting possibilities beyond typing at the shell. Probably a better approach would be to look at providing an octopus client for iPhone though... -eric On Wed, Mar

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread andrey mirtchovski
one problem with the iPhone is that you can't run third-party apps in the background. that pretty much kills drawterm dead.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
Wait, why? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:02 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: one problem with the iPhone is that you can't run third-party apps in the background. that pretty much kills drawterm dead.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread andrey mirtchovski
dropping the connection to the plan9 host every time you do something else not a showstopper? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, why?

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
Guess it depends on how you are using it. Wonder if you could save enough state to recover -- probably just Vnc at that point though. Would octopus have the same problem or would Op help solve the state problem? -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:11 PM, andrey

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:21:12PM -0500, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: Guess it depends on how you are using it. Wonder if you could save enough state to recover -- probably just Vnc at that point though. Would octopus have the same problem or would Op help solve the state problem?

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/25 andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com: there are a couple of other problems that I see with dt on the iPhone: - platform: google may be much more interested in seeing apps for the G-phone than they are for the rival (but then, a g-phone version may be much easier to do, and not

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Killed. From the license agreement for iPhone developers (which requires a free Apple Developer Connection account to view; sorry): 3.3.3 Without Apple’s prior written approval, an Application may not provide, unlock or enable a enable additional features or functionality through

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
I have the developer kit, I'd be willing to submit the resulting app for free distro. That's at least one less barrier. -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:31 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: there are a couple of other problems that I see with dt on

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
If this were true there would be no vnc for iPhone, and there is. If vnc is okay, drawterm or octopus would be too. -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com wrote: Killed. From the license agreement for iPhone developers (which requires

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
Also, figuring out how multitouch works with plan 9 would be valuable in itself -- although admitadly could be done without an iPhone. -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com wrote: Killed. From the license agreement for iPhone developers

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Anthony Sorace
i think the drawterm port would be interesting, but how to deal with the mismatch between the touch and 3-button-mouse interfaces seems like a big issue. i don't yet have an iPhone or iPod Touch, but for me, drawterm would push me over for the later. for André (or anyone with similar interests),

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Also, we obviously cannot use rio, unless we greatly restrict the user's visibility. Unless we provide zooming? Maybe a text-based environment that runs exclusively off rc, sam, acme, etc. with the standard keyboard at the bottom: Exitdrawterm Commands

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
I think rio is probably not useful, but a purely text based environtment isn't interesting either... -eric Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com wrote: Also, we obviously cannot use rio, unless we greatly restrict the user's visibility.

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:25:07 CDT Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: Also, figuring out how multitouch works with plan 9 would be valuable in itself -- although admitadly could be done without an iPhone. Exactly what I was thinking while reading this thread! An intuitive multitouch

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Tom Lieber
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: I think rio is probably not useful, but a purely text based environtment isn't interesting either... The only thing I could see anyone using this for is if they wrote an iPhone-tailored UI for controlling...

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Jeff Sickel
A text based environment isn't that interesting, but a 9p transport that allows the end user to cache and store files on the device to be reviewed through currently provided renderers/decoders (pdf, jpeg, tiff, myriad of audio formats, html/xml) would be ideal. Given that we're starting

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Lalonde
iJuke ;-) On 25-Mar-09, at 8:24 PM, Tom Lieber wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: I think rio is probably not useful, but a purely text based environtment isn't interesting either... The only thing I could see anyone using this for is if

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Federico G. Benavento
my questions were more about the real usage of iphone's dt my short sighted vision of the gsoc is this, I didn't use any of the stuff that gsoc 2007 got us, though I recognize the inferno ds port. but for the rest, it might be interesting, but is someone using that stuff? iphone's drawterm sounds

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread erik quanstrom
ok, you can't compare porting inferno to the ds with drawterm for the iphone drawterm is an app to get to a Plan 9 server, inferno is a self contained operating system where you can get the advantage of writing your own apps for it. Except that drawterm ends up being a mini-Plan 9