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This one is dedicated to Avatar Davis.  May he someday graduate from lurker to contributor.  Just like Allen, Allen, Allen, and Allen. P.S.:  Avatar, I have consumed 4 glasses of homebrew mead of unknown alcohol content.  They're somewhere between 11% and 309fg45hj853g% alcohol.  Probably

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

And yes the 3000L is made for 24V power supplies.  This turns out to be convenient if you want to power them with a Ubiquiti Edgepoint S16.  Which I do.  Or did.  Now I want to power them with .30-06 bullets. On 1/23/2020 12:33 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think I would have noticed it.but

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

I think I would have noticed it.but I'll look at it tomorrow when I get to the office.  I will send a pic as proof of the existence or nonexistence of an SFP on the actual 3000L. Currently it is Schrodinger's SFP. On 1/22/2020 9:18 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Where?  It says it has a

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

Seems like you’d want GigE with a 450i. Also, how are you doing sync? AUX port? If you’re doing sync-over-power, you’d probably want to switch to “Cambium sync” which is supported on the 48-56V powered APs. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:54 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

We haven't had any of those issues so far, and we have several out. It's in the low-teens here in the morning. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:53 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > I purchased a bunch of ePMP3000 (not L) and have honestly had nothing > but issues with them

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105

Friend of mine still has some ESMR licenses he leases that he got before Nextel sold out to Sprint. Great residual income. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 1:36 PM Cameron Crum wrote: > My opinion, any spectrum you own is valuable and will only increase in > value. It's like beachfront property, they

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Well, it's actually 14-30v, but yeah, they really did do that... Regardless of what the spec sheet does or doesn't say, the 3000L definitely does not have sfp. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 8:19 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Where? It says it has a 100/1000BaseT ethernet interface: > > >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Where? It says it has a 100/1000BaseT ethernet interface: https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SS_ePMP_3000L_11182019.pdf Erm - it also says it only accepts 29V PoE. The ePMP 3000 (non-L) supports 56V. Did they really make the ePMP3kL only support 24-29V? If so, that

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Spec sheet says 3000L has an sfp. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:24 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > The 3000 has an SFP, the 3000L does not. > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:54 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > >> It’s got an sfp in it >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:57 PM Adam Moffett wrote: >> >>> Copper. 3000L

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

A friend posted this on Facebook yesterday, turns out it’s from 2012 but seems relevant to the swimming pool discussion. If you have dogs. If not, never mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_daN5_pUlnE From: AF On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:30 PM

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

The 3000 has an SFP, the 3000L does not. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:54 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > It’s got an sfp in it > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:57 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> Copper. 3000L doesn't have fiber. >> On 1/22/2020 4:55 PM, Nate Burke wrote: >> >> Are you seeing Ethernet problems

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

It’s got an sfp in it On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:57 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Copper. 3000L doesn't have fiber. > On 1/22/2020 4:55 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Are you seeing Ethernet problems with fiber connections as well, or just > the copper? We put up an EPMP 3000 early last year. It had

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

Much easier. Nothing leaching from the gunite. 6-8 week from start to finish. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:59 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Gunite is

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

Yeah, I agree. I'd use them if that's what you need to do to get everything switched over in a timely manner, but I wouldn't plan on it as a permanent solution. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 2:46 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Those Ubiquiti Instant 802.3 things are not super reliable IMO. > > I'd use

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

There is. It's not huge, but there is definitely an improvement in most cases. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:18 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > I'm pretty sure Cambium does claim there should be a bit of a performance > gain just from upgrading the AP (even if you're still using N clients). If >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

I'm pretty sure Cambium does claim there should be a bit of a performance gain just from upgrading the AP (even if you're still using N clients). If nothing else, latency is about half of what it is with a 1000/2000 AP (using 5ms frames... I haven't tried 2.5ms on the 3000), although I think it's

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

I would think Fiberglass would be easier on the feet too. Smoother. Less subject to cracking with the earth freeze thaw cycles etc. I would think a fiberglass repair would be easier and more likely to be a strong permanent repair. I do like the idea of a custom form with gunite. From:

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

Gunite is considered higher end, if maybe only because the form can be almost anything you can imagine. Fiberglass is more cookie-cutter, but is still available in a wide variety of shapes within reason. In our experience, the fiberglass are way easier to

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Copper.  3000L doesn't have fiber. On 1/22/2020 4:55 PM, Nate Burke wrote: Are you seeing Ethernet problems with fiber connections as well, or just the copper?  We put up an EPMP 3000 early last year.  It had Ethernet problems for about the first 3 or 4 weeks of putting it up, but has seemed

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Are you seeing Ethernet problems with fiber connections as well, or just the copper?  We put up an EPMP 3000 early last year.  It had Ethernet problems for about the first 3 or 4 weeks of putting it up, but has seemed fine since then.  This was on Copper connection.  I was just having Ethernet

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion

SM's. But thinking about it doesn't sound like a very reliable solution. Better off just swapping power supplies IMO On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 2:57 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Is this an AP or an SM? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2020 11:26 AM >

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

I keep thinking about infinity pools. My home is on a small hill. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 2:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools I can do the hole. Did a gunite once before. Not sure what holds its

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

I can do the hole. Did a gunite once before. Not sure what holds its value the best for resale. From: Jason Wilson Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools My wife is a sales manager for a Pool and

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

Vintage? From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:46 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools He would call them "aged". bp On 1/22/2020 12:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: "old" vienna sausages. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:34 PM Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion

Is this an AP or an SM? From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 11:26 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion Tycon does make some stuff that would probably work, but you'd have to come up with an outdoor box to

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

My wife is a sales manager for a Pool and Pool supply distributor. What do you want to know? I am assuming you're looking for an in ground. Gunite or Fiberglass? Fiberglass is a less expensive option that gets you swimming faster. Dig the hole to spec, set the plumbing and a crain sets in the

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

He would call them "aged". bp On 1/22/2020 12:32 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: "old" vienna sausages. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:34 PM Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

Those Ubiquiti Instant 802.3 things are not super reliable IMO. I'd use them to forklift an AP, then schedule service calls at convenient times to swap the POE, then re-use the Instant 802 adapters for the next forklift.  Just a thought. On 1/22/2020 3:40 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: PMP320

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

It was 1 link at 0.9 mile on a +30 EIRP DFS band. Just a test.  Test failed. On 1/22/2020 3:41 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: Technically you wouldn't see any performance gains over a 2000 unless you're hitting 256qam. What's the distance of the links? On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:19 AM Matt Hoppes

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Technically you wouldn't see any performance gains over a 2000 unless you're hitting 256qam. What's the distance of the links? On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:19 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > No but Chris and I had a theory it was hot heat related... that kills > that

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

PMP320 SM's are 802.3af, right? That should work fine. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 2:35 PM Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Looking to mass swap PMP320 SM's with Force 190/200 radios. > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:54 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> Ubiquiti Instat 802.3af works for that. There's even an

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105

My opinion, any spectrum you own is valuable and will only increase in value. It's like beachfront property, they ain't making any more of it and communication demands aren't getting any smaller. On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mathew Howard wrote: > I imagine it depends a lot on the

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

Looking to mass swap PMP320 SM's with Force 190/200 radios. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:54 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > Ubiquiti Instat 802.3af works for that. There's even an outdoor version... > it's relatively low current output though, so I don't know that it would > work for something like a

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT Swimming Pools

"old" vienna sausages. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:34 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Chuck needs a pool so he can sit by the pool and eat Vienna sausages. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:14 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

Ubiquiti Instat 802.3af works for that. There's even an outdoor version... it's relatively low current output though, so I don't know that it would work for something like a PMP450AP, but it'll do the job for things like ePMP radios. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:48 PM Eric Muehleisen wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

Sorry to hijack the thread but what about the opposite direction? Is there a device you could put inline to downconvert from 48v to 24v? On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:36 PM Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote: > PMP 450i requires 40-59 VDC input, and is not compatible with the “Canopy” > style 29 VDC

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Canopy POE Conversion

PMP 450i requires 40-59 VDC input, and is not compatible with the “Canopy” style 29 VDC power supplies. This will not work. As stated before, it’s best to swap power supplies to the recommended version. A standard 802.3at supply will also work. (“at” though, not “af”, as this device can

[AFMUG] Youtube distractions...

Yeah, feeding the addiction, but more importantly, as the youtuber says at the end, youtube is trying to go the netflix way, when, IMNSHO, the real value and future of reality tv is real youtubers.. So we should be sharing original youtuber content to promote it _over_ the big productions of

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

No but Chris and I had a theory it was hot heat related... that kills that theory. On 1/22/20 1:17 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Binghamton, NY just north of you.  Usually in the 30's this time of year, but it's been more like in the teens for several days. Did you see a temperature correlation?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Binghamton, NY just north of you.  Usually in the 30's this time of year, but it's been more like in the teens for several days. Did you see a temperature correlation? On 1/22/2020 12:49 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: I purchased a bunch of ePMP3000 (not L) and have honestly had nothing but issues

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion

It will probably run at 24v On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 8:42 AM Matt wrote: > Does anyone know of an outdoor device to take a Canopy 24 volt POE > source and convert it too Canopy 48 volt POE? > > I have a PMP450 I want to swap for a PMP450i without swapping POE > power source in a pinch. > > -- > AF

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

I purchased a bunch of ePMP3000 (not L) and have honestly had nothing but issues with them since trying to deploy... including multiple instances at multiple sites with the inability to get Gig to link... but at the office it's fine... swap to a Ubiquiti AC radio and it's a Gig on the tower.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

On the first unit we tried yeah.  GigE worked in the office, but on the tower it would only run at 100BaseT.  Our guys fought with it for a couple of days.  Brought it back to the office and it did a gig in the office no problem.  I assume it's related to the cable length, but maybe some other

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

WAIT WAIT WAIT You ALSO are having issues linking at Gigabit? That's interesting, because myself and someone else are also having this issue and Cambium has sworn until they are blue in the face there is no issue. On 1/22/20 11:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: So I tried an ePMP 3000L. Real

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion

Tycon does make some stuff that would probably work, but you'd have to come up with an outdoor box to put it in. But I agree with Chuck... changing the PS seems a lot more practical. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I'm pretty sure 450i will run on 802.3at if that helps

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

We have lots of 3000L's running... I haven't seen any major performance differences between them and the 1000/2000 as far as noise, etc., but they do get a bit more capacity when 256QAM works. I can't comment on QoS, since I don't use it anyway, but as far as hardware reliability goes, I haven't

Re: [AFMUG] MAXtream

Yeah... I'm not sure what the point of bothering with something like this would be. The radios are look to be a direct knock off of Ubiquiti's designs, except inferior (no GPS, 802.11N). On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:04 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Solving the hidden node problem would have been good

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

I didn't try the 4x4 one, no. On 1/22/2020 11:57 AM, Josh Baird wrote: Have you use the MIMO version (non-L)?  We saw immediate improvements after replacing ePMP 2K sectors with al 802.11n based clients. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:54 AM Adam Moffett > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3000L - thumbs down

Have you use the MIMO version (non-L)? We saw immediate improvements after replacing ePMP 2K sectors with al 802.11n based clients. On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > So I tried an ePMP 3000L. > > Real world performance is ultimately about the same as ePMP 2000. QoS >

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion

Sure seems easier to swap the PS when swapping the radio. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:41 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion Does anyone know of an outdoor device to take a Canopy 24 volt POE source and convert it

[AFMUG] Canopy POE Conversion

Does anyone know of an outdoor device to take a Canopy 24 volt POE source and convert it too Canopy 48 volt POE? I have a PMP450 I want to swap for a PMP450i without swapping POE power source in a pinch. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam

I did check out the Comsearch website quickly and it looks like they have almost their same training online for free, if you aren't pursuing certification. I could see having additional employees other than your CPI do that, for a familiarization with the process. Nobody seems to cover what

Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam

I also did mine through commscope as well and yes a it take a bit to get thru it but its not a rush thing and the online testing is monitored very well. On 1/21/20 5:39 PM, David Coudron wrote: I did it online through Commscope.   It goes pretty fast.   Online sessions and test are a big

Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam

Ken, Slight correction.  Google is offering the CPI training, WISPA just worked with Google to get a discount for WISPA Members on it. photograph Daniel White Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2766 direct:+1 (702) 470-2770 Ken Hohhof wrote on 1/21/20

Re: [AFMUG] MAXtream

Solving the hidden node problem would have been good advertising copy 20 years ago. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Lincs_Chel Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 10:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] MAXtream Hi; Anyone seen this stuff and possibly

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi analyzer apps for iOS

Apple Blocks wifi scans from apps so there is no good wifi analyzer for iOS I would recommend a cheap android with Wi-Fi man on it to keep on the truck if you are not a fan of Ubiquiti there are 100's of others to pick from on android On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:23 AM Matt wrote: > The "Apple