Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Thanks, never really knew what to say with this stuff. I have been calling IP Transit DIA forever. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:38 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo IP Transit,

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Agreed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "Chuck McCown" Cc: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:21:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS:

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

I've got a 10G wave to a rural location that's sub $900. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 3:05:36

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Lumen likes the term “HSIP” lately. “High Speed IP” They’ve used that term both when we had a loop and when we were meeting them in a datacenter. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 4:14 PM To: TJ Trout ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc:

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

IP Transit, DIA would normally be delivered directly to a business/tower and include the local transport loop On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Make that Cogent, not HE. > > *From:* Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM > *To:* TJ Trout > *Cc:* Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Make that Cogent, not HE. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 2:24 PM To: TJ Trout Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

So what do you call a port in a carriers cage? HE sells us 10G delivered to a port in their cage in a data center. I understand paying for the cross connect to get it to another cage where our dark fiber connection starts. So what is that service I am paying for called? There is no local

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA=Transit+Transport (local loop) Transit=Full routes to the internet, usually at a DC Transport= Layer2 between sites On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... > I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Ha, won’t be long before those guys are lower than the cost of the xconnect in the bigger datacenters. Its just a pitty they don’t go that low on aggregated commits (cogent comes close but HE hates burstable ports). From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 2:06 PM

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

I prefer the term backbone... Or uplink bw service or ... I always presumed DIA is just a connection to the world appearing at a port in a data center Dedicated Internet Access, right? I wouldn’t call my connection to the data center a local loop. It is dark fiber running about 60 miles. So

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

DIA@ a data center is usually called transit, DIA would usually include a local loop which is most of the expense. HE and Cogent are down in the $500s now, and sometimes transport can be had sub 2k making for a reasonably priced 10G "dia" to a rural location. On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 10:56 AM

[AFMUG] Connected 2 Fiber \ Connectbase

Are any of you selling\buying there? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Well I'll be dipped in shit... AT *DOES* do waves. https://www.business.att.com/products/dedicated-ethernet.html Kinda dances around it, mentioning DWDM for one flavor, but the hard 1G, 10G, 100G really makes it kinda click. https://solutionprovidercentral.com/att-dedicated-ethernet/

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Cogent and HE both quoted $600. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo I wish I could get that deal! On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

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I wish I could get that deal! On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So > $2500 all in. > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Ouchy, my 10 Gig DIA was $600 I think. Transport was $1900 I think. So $2500 all in. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 11:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Mike; notwithstanding ASE or legacy products they only sell waves, they just call them EPLs lol Bill; a wave is just a ptp circuit but rides directly on fiber using DWDM channels the "colors" but you only need grey light (1310) to talk to the waves (they use a converter) some carriers sell alien

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

What kind of pricing are we talking about here? From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 8:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Is that the same as colors we talk about out here? bp On 7/8/2022 7:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Waves or Ethernet? I didn't know AT sold waves. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:16:00 AM Subject:

[AFMUG] FS: Att/Comcast wholesale transport - 10g 0mrc promo

Hey guys, We have a direct carrier agreement for our wisp, part of keeping that going is having new sales revenue, I primarily buy for my own network but occasionally I have helped friends and fellow list members. Let me know if anything is of interest to you when you are *ready to buy*! Att