Re: [AFMUG] Windows SNMP tool

2014-12-12 Thread Jeremy via Af
iReasoning works great On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM, D. Ryan Spott via Af wrote: > http://www.wtcs.org/snmp4tpc/getif.htm > http://www.ireasoning.com/mibbrowser.shtml > > Of course, you could always just install snmpget and snmpset on your > windows machine. > > > ryan > > > > On 12/12/14 2:

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.

2014-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
That's pretty close, probably even good enough! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies via Af" To: "Mike Hammett via Af" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:32:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] W

[AFMUG] what was the name of the software that recorded NetFlix

2014-12-12 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Someone posted it but I can't find it. I would really appreciate reposting it. Thanks. Rory

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread That One Guy via Af
Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com] really good sales guy we had a communication issue with the licensing coordination, was really something we should have been more clear on because of the clustered way our business structure is. but it ultimately resulted in a new FRN being create

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
-/+ 1-2dB is perfectly fine. I'm sure most coordinators use 11.2GHz and the mid-band gain of the antenna for both Tx and Rx. And you also have stuff like time of day and temperature playing a part. If you have an idea where to point the antennas and your mounts are level, fire them up and they

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
I did a Dragonwave 10 plus mile link last year that aligned pretty fast because I did my homework and checked my azimuth settings on ground and tower...I put some markers below tower and few thousand feet out. I used my compass and Air Sice on Android.Set the 8 ft dish and tigthen it up a bit.

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Only you, Steve :) Who's your SAF rep? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 12, 2014 10:34 PM, "That One Guy via Af" wrote: > yeah, we are the PCN is -43 and we are -42/-41 Everything tests fine, > speedtests are great, full capa

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread That One Guy via Af
yeah, we are the PCN is -43 and we are -42/-41 Everything tests fine, speedtests are great, full capacity. I wouldnt be concerned if it had been hard to get the link up. we did full H/V sweeps on both sides, then fine aligned as normal. I just expected it to be hard to find the link and somewhat

Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazonstreaming4Know.

2014-12-12 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies via Af
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Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
If you got the signal the PCN states you're good to go. You can also do a speed test to verify your 300 some megs if you need to? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 12, 2014 10:24 PM, "That One Guy via Af" wrote: > yes. > you do

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Ok. I misunderstood...one of these days I will learn English. Jaime Solorza On Dec 12, 2014 8:24 PM, "That One Guy via Af" wrote: > yes. > you do understand my concern is that they linked up too easily? Im almost > thinking we could have just laid the antennas on their sides and they still > wou

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread That One Guy via Af
yes. you do understand my concern is that they linked up too easily? Im almost thinking we could have just laid the antennas on their sides and they still would have made a marginal link. If I werent so pessimistic I would be excited about this. Im concerned when the ground thaws or something every

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.3.3 available now

2014-12-12 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
That's what she said? I don't like her if she said that On 12/12/2014 8:56 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: I just love it when they don't explode. -- bp On 12/12/2014 3:22 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Well, my bench radio didn't explode, so I guess I'll update the o

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.3.3 available now

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I just love it when they don't explode. -- bp On 12/12/2014 3:22 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Well, my bench radio didn't explode, so I guess I'll update the others. On 12/12/2014 10:09 AM, Sakid Ahmed via Af wrote: ePMP Release 2.3.3 is now posted on the Cambium sup

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Jeremy via Af
I wouldn't want to walk around the neighborhood by the fairgrounds at that time of night but downtown you should be fine. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: > Don't miss the Rahat Bakery: > > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Original-Rahat-Bakers-Est-1950/244212535591471

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Did u make sure they linked up in lab first? Jaime Solorza On Dec 12, 2014 7:08 PM, "That One Guy via Af" wrote: > the ground is frozen, pretty much all tilled farmland. Is it possible im > seeing some sort of multipath type madness that this thing just wouldnt not > link up. Ive had a harder ti

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread That One Guy via Af
the ground is frozen, pretty much all tilled farmland. Is it possible im seeing some sort of multipath type madness that this thing just wouldnt not link up. Ive had a harder time pointing shorter 5ghz links On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: > > Slow and easy...slow and

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
Don't miss the Rahat Bakery: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Original-Rahat-Bakers-Est-1950/244212535591471 https://www.google.com/search?q=rahat+bakery+rawalpindi&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0pyLVMSjF4XjoAT3pYGoDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1473&bih=1004 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Mat

[AFMUG] FCC says taxpayer-bankrolled bumpkin broadband must be at least 10Mbps • The Register

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/13/fcc_boosts_bumpkin_broadband/ Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
Hey, that sounds fun! From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Eric Kuhnke via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night? If any person, as a physically fit adult male is afraid of th

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Slow and easy...slow and easy... Jaime Solorza On Dec 12, 2014 11:43 AM, "That One Guy via Af" wrote: > madness we are a little better than the target after fine alignment. at > one point we had the 4' side pinting to the ground abot 100 yards out ant > it still had about a -80 on the bnc readou

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
My wife and I like walking around downtown areas at night when we vacation and here as well. Never had any issues other than a dog attacked us. Size 10 1/2 steel toe hoot sent him running. I always carry a knife and my walking stick. Not much against a gun but it gives the wife some comfort.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af
Yes, speed keys. Had a 450 SM fail today, one we have put an unlimited key in. Now junk. Lost the key. Fitted a new 450 10meg SM and added a new key. Do not like keys…. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 2:59 PM

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s

2014-12-12 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
Noise?? On Friday, December 12, 2014, Scott Vander Dussen via Af wrote: > I’m diagnosing a slow throughput PTP500 link remotely. This link’s > real-world capacity is only about 2mb/s. Attached is screenshots of the > status page. Anything stick out as weird or wrong? It was on 15mb/s > chann

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I don’t know, I haven’t experienced that problem. I guess start with whatever’s easiest. I should ask, is this 5.4 or 5.7? I’m not sure it would match the symptoms, but are you taking any DFS hits? If you use the Diagnostic Plotter to look at active channel history, do you see it switching c

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Muehleisen via Af
I had the exact same issue a few months back. One of the coax jumpers was kinked. Replaced and perfect ever since. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Scott Vander Dussen via Af wrote: > > Ken- > > Thanks again. This link is not on our network and I don’t have access to > SNMP it- here’s the diag p

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.3.3 available now

2014-12-12 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Well, my bench radio didn't explode, so I guess I'll update the others. On 12/12/2014 10:09 AM, Sakid Ahmed via Af wrote: ePMP Release 2.3.3 is now posted on the Cambium support site @ https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp/ This is a point release that addresses the AP accessibility

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Nothing against KP, I like their stuff. But AP mount, null fill, very consistent pattern wins in my book. I agree, the KP 900 sector has good gain for its size. F/B is not so great, but it's better than the wind load you'd get from a cluster of 4' Til-Tek's, which we've done and took down, bec

Re: [AFMUG] DS-2CE16D5T-(A)VFIT3 - Turbo HD Camera - Hikvision

2014-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
This have digital zoom with great clarity Jaime Solorza On Dec 12, 2014 6:34 AM, "Jaime Solorza via Af" wrote: > Sorry...these are the ones I am installing that client provided. I will > get u info on the higher resolution ones later today. > > Jaime Solorza > On Dec 11, 2014 11:39 PM, "Ror

Re: [AFMUG] Windows SNMP tool

2014-12-12 Thread D. Ryan Spott via Af
http://www.wtcs.org/snmp4tpc/getif.htm http://www.ireasoning.com/mibbrowser.shtml Of course, you could always just install snmpget and snmpset on your windows machine. ryan On 12/12/14 2:53 PM, Robbie Wright via Af wrote: We've used this before with pretty good luck. http://www.paessler.c

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Vector error is basically signal to noise ratio, so yes 28 is good and 1.5 is really bad. I would still use the diagnostic plotter to look at vector error over time. It won’t tell you WHY it gets bad, but seeing WHEN it gets bad might help track it down. Or use MRTG/Cacti/etc. to plot the fol

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
If any person, as a physically fit adult male is afraid of the homeless people in Salt Lake City, I invite them to come with me on a night-time motor rickshaw ride and walk in Rawalpindi some time. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, chuck--- via Af wrote: > > I don’t think the Shiloh is more than

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread Sean Heskett via Af
same thing happened to us as it did to Tushar and i refused to pay again to move to their crappy wireless manager product. some things cambium gets really right...some things they are out right stupid about. did i mention speed keys yet today??? hey cambium get rid of the speed keys and give us

Re: [AFMUG] Windows SNMP tool

2014-12-12 Thread Robbie Wright via Af
We've used this before with pretty good luck. http://www.paessler.com/tools/snmptester Won't scan a subnet, just an individual host. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband 541-902-5101 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af wrote: > > Does anyone know

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread Tushar Patel via Af
So David how much so far have you spent on wireless Manager? Next year or 2 if they come out with new system and tell you to pay again, and tell you old system will not be supported and for newer radio you need new system and will have to pay for all your old AP's to make it work on new system,

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread chuck--- via Af
I don’t think the Shiloh is more than 5 minutes away from the trolley system on Main Street or South Temple. If they are running at that hour. And most of the homeless folks are concentrated in a fairly small area that you would not be near. From: Bruce Robertson via Af Sent: Friday, Decem

[AFMUG] Windows SNMP tool

2014-12-12 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af
Does anyone know of a windows SNMP tool where I can read and write to an OID. Easy tool, just enter subnet and oid to work on and get a list of results? If not windows, gui Linux? Thanks Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af
I ran tests in IE, Chrome and Firefox, all close ish.. How different were your results? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 10:20 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread David via Af
Cnut takes care of that :) On 12/12/2014 04:18 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af wrote: Out of curiosity, what do you use to manage your software upgrades? Everything seems easy enough to manage with a 3rd party management platform. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Tushar Patel via Af

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s

2014-12-12 Thread David via Af
Scott, Have a look at the slave side spectrum manager and see if there is some noise cropping up. If not then you may have some water in a pigtail or defective. Also, may want to do a site walk to see if the antennas may have moved due to weather or something in the path since it was installed

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread David via Af
Tushar, we bought the Wireless manager just to display our map of infrastructure on a 50" screen in the lobby. Cool! Once I started getting the keys to support most of our infrastructure I began to investigate more in depth of what all we could do more with it. It allows me to make global chan

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Minimum vector error numbers are awful. Have you used the diagnostic plotter (or SNMP) to graph vector error and modulation vs time? You may have a time varying interference problem. From: Scott Vander Dussen via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 3:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] P

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
Out of curiosity, what do you use to manage your software upgrades? Everything seems easy enough to manage with a 3rd party management platform. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Tushar Patel via Af wrote: > > If history is any guide, (BAM, Prizm ) and not continue to support. After > poring close

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
We had to blow up the patterns and overlay them in order to really see, as you said it's not dramatic at all. Glad to see someone agrees with my amateur assessment :D On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > > I see what you’re talking about. It’s not dramatic, but I would

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread Tushar Patel via Af
If history is any guide, (BAM, Prizm ) and not continue to support. After poring close to $30k in prizm, cambium wanted us to buy new license for all AP's and backhal again for wireless manager. I could not believe it. You are better off not wasting your time and money into their management pl

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
I ran some tests on IE and Chrome. They are within a couple percent of each other as far as I can see. -- bp On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE. And

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I see what you’re talking about. It’s not dramatic, but I would think the best thing would be for the two polarizations to have almost identical patterns. Not sure what to make of the gain vs freq graph which shows more like 15 dBi rather than 16.5 dBi. I think we all suspect that with most an

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
The -3 vs -6 is exactly what I was refering to. When you look closely at the antenna pattern of the KP antenna, it just looks like they pushed each polarity farther away from each other in relation to the cambium antenna. This makes the lobes come out a bit farther and spec out as -3 instead of -6

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
I think that became the base of CNS. Once they support Canopy radios and make the GUI pretty like the ePMP's, then I'll mess with it. On 12/12/2014 2:33 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af wrote: I assume Wireless manager is still a pay for product? Anyone using Wireless Advisor? Is it worth install

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
You’re talking about the “Gen II”, right? That’s the 450 compatible one. I have only compared spec sheets. Looks like 90 degrees is at 3 dB points, while Cambium is more like 5-6 dB. No null fill. 2 degrees downtilt. No bracket to hold AP papoose style. Otherwise similar specwise. KPP al

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
I believe we established the 450 antennas are made by Laird. Not a big fan of their antennas myself. I've been very happy with KP antennas for some time. What differences are you looking for, Kade? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af
I asked KP for an explanation of the differences between them a few months ago. He said he'd contact his engineer but I never heard back. When you look at the antenna profile, at first glance it looks like the KP antenna is better. But once you look closer, it looks like each polarity is just mo

Re: [AFMUG] Release 13.3 Build 15

2014-12-12 Thread Vlad Sedov via Af
Are there any benefits to running this firmware on 450 APs with 430 interop? Thanks, Vlad On 12/12/2014 2:40 PM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote: Wanted to let you know we just posted Build 15 (a new beta load)... this is darn near the final one. We've corrected past issues and would love fo

Re: [AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
I expect it's like Mike Tyson vs an infant. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 12, 2014 4:04 PM, "Matt via Af" wrote: > Has anyone compared the KP 90 degree 3.6GHZ sector with the Cambium > for use with 450? >

[AFMUG] 90 Degree 3.6GHZ Sector

2014-12-12 Thread Matt via Af
Has anyone compared the KP 90 degree 3.6GHZ sector with the Cambium for use with 450?

[AFMUG] Release 13.3 Build 15

2014-12-12 Thread Matt Mangriotis via Af
Wanted to let you know we just posted Build 15 (a new beta load)... this is darn near the final one. We've corrected past issues and would love for you to kick the tires on this release as soon as possible. Please visit the Cambium Networks webpage to down load the Open Beta version of 13.3.

[AFMUG] Cambium Tools

2014-12-12 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af
I assume Wireless manager is still a pay for product? Anyone using Wireless Advisor? Is it worth installing? Thanks Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
I don't see the issue...here's my result in Chrome. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3980421483 Regards, Chuck On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: > no attachment... > > -- > bp > > > > On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: > >> I'm not sure what is

Re: [AFMUG] FS: netonix WISP switch 400B

2014-12-12 Thread Ty Featherling via Af
+1000. Great device, great company. I can't wait for the Tower Switch! -Ty On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af wrote: > oh i love the wisp switch, i think its been the best thing that has come > along in years, i plan on putting them on everything > > Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime time?

2014-12-12 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af
Good news, was just wanting all the bugs to be gone. Will get it done. FINALLY a config file, roll on 13.3 Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 10:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Doesn't the light rail go out to the airport now (which goes right by the fairgrounds)? -- bp On 12/12/2014 11:31 AM, Bruce Robertson via Af wrote: It's just 15 minutes walk in a north-east direction from the Shiloh. On 12/12/2014 11:28 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You talking about downtown

Re: [AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime time?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
We're now running 13.2 on all our PMP450 installations. No troubles. In fact, it's fixed most of the issues we've had. The only thing right now that would be better than 13.2 would be 13.3 (because it will have a text-based config file (YEAH!)). The addition of an up-to 8K NAT table is nice

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
Some of the people who jumped the gun and bought 4K 30Hz displays are selling them now, they're pretty cheap... Not a bad choice if you want static chart monitoring and other things that don't move around a lot. Connect to a decent desktop PC with 2 x $175 video cards. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bruce Robertson via Af
It's just 15 minutes walk in a north-east direction from the Shiloh. On 12/12/2014 11:28 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You talking about downtown, or by the fairgrounds? Is there still that KOA campground down the road from the fairgrounds? That seemed a bit shady. Downtown I remember walking

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bruce Robertson via Af
TO the Shiloh, I meant. On 12/12/2014 11:31 AM, Bruce Robertson wrote: It's just 15 minutes walk in a north-east direction from the Shiloh. On 12/12/2014 11:28 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You talking about downtown, or by the fairgrounds? Is there still that KOA campground down the road from

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
You talking about downtown, or by the fairgrounds? Is there still that KOA campground down the road from the fairgrounds? That seemed a bit shady. Downtown I remember walking at night from the Shiloh to the Einsteins. Cops seems to like bagels at all hours. Probably because SLC doesn’t seem

Re: [AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime time?

2014-12-12 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
If you're thinking of upgrading right now, wait. 13.2.1 will be along shortly that addresses some SNMP bugs and stuff. On 12/12/2014 12:58 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af wrote: What is the consensus on 13.2 for 5.7 450? Any outstanding issues I should be aware of? Understand I need to do SM�s

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Brett A Mansfield via Af
It's certainly not LA, but there are still dangers. We get some of the craziest night stalkers here. But for an adult male you'll likely be okay. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Dec 12, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: > > Seriously, I don't think I've ever been to any similar

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bruce Robertson via Af
I have exactly that problem in Reno, so no problem there! On 12/12/2014 11:18 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Last time I was in SLC, and walking the sidewalk in February, the biggest issue was being able to breath. SLC is in a basin, and they often are in a thermal inversion at that time of yea

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
Seriously, I don't think I've ever been to any similar sized cities where I'd be less worried about walking at night... also, I'm guessing you could probably take the trax most of the way if you didn't feel like walking. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf

Re: [AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime time?

2014-12-12 Thread Peter Kranz via Af
Its good to go.. I would say it's a must have upgrade actually. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Last time I was in SLC, and walking the sidewalk in February, the biggest issue was being able to breath. SLC is in a basin, and they often are in a thermal inversion at that time of year. All the smog settles in around downtown. Sure it's colder than Miami, but not like International Falls

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
There’s some kind of disconnect when something that needs 25 Mbps per device is being marketed as mainstream, and the FCC just decided that 10x1 is the minimum Internet speed for CAF funding. Unless we’re finally willing to admit that 4K televisions and 25M live streaming are a luxury and you n

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Brett A Mansfield via Af
Most of us here in SLC wait for facts before we riot. Being from SLC I can say your mostly fine depending on where the station is. There is a section in downtown near the Gateway Mall that has several homeless shelters. Evil things happen there nightly. But chances are that if you don't talk to

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
Hmm... yeah, there's that... but on the bright side, if the police do shoot you, it won't cause any riots. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of That One Guy via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG

[AFMUG] Is 13.2 ready for prime time?

2014-12-12 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af
What is the consensus on 13.2 for 5.7 450? Any outstanding issues I should be aware of? Understand I need to do SM's first. Can I go direct from 12.1 Thanks Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread James Howard via Af
Come on. That can happen anywhere. That's not SLC's fault. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night? other than the police shooting you, you should be good On F

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
There's always these guys. They're local. http://www.nocturneproductions.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:50:26 PM Subject: Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread That One Guy via Af
other than the police shooting you, you should be good On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: > > Yeah... having been there a couple of times, I really wouldn't worry > about it. > > -- > *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hamm

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread James Howard via Af
I'd guess it's safer than Reno. Now that I think about it though, I've been to Reno lots of times but never walked downtown at night. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Walking in S

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
Yeah... having been there a couple of times, I really wouldn't worry about it. From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [af@afmug.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night? T

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread D. Ryan Spott via Af
Yeah, just put a fake cigarette in your mouth and most folks in SLC will leave you alone. :P ryan On 12/12/14 10:47 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: Are you seriously asking if Salt Lake City is safe for an adult male to walk at night? On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Bruce Robertson via

Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
The closest I've ever been to SLC is either in a plane on the way to Vegas or maybe in Steamboat Springs, CO. However, I'd imagine the worst thing that could happen to you in SLC is getting preached at by a Mormon... and I'd be okay with that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solu

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Nah, you want one of these: http://gizmodo.com/this-google-android-billboard-in-times-square-is-freaki-1663246037 From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K Having a monitor like that would be go

Re: [AFMUG] FS: netonix WISP switch 400B

2014-12-12 Thread Kurt Fankhauser via Af
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Re: [AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
Are you seriously asking if Salt Lake City is safe for an adult male to walk at night? On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Bruce Robertson via Af wrote: > One of my transportation options for Animal Farm is to take Amtrak from > Reno. The problem is that it arrives in SLC between 3 and 4 am.

[AFMUG] Walking in SLC at night?

2014-12-12 Thread Bruce Robertson via Af
One of my transportation options for Animal Farm is to take Amtrak from Reno. The problem is that it arrives in SLC between 3 and 4 am. It's only a 15 minute walk from the station to the hotel, but I was wondering how advisable that is at that hour.

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-12 Thread That One Guy via Af
madness we are a little better than the target after fine alignment. at one point we had the 4' side pinting to the ground abot 100 yards out ant it still had about a -80 on the bnc readout On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > > Yeah, it was so considerate of AT&T to lea

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
no attachment... -- bp On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE. And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in the past month.

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Bill Prince via Af
More like 4095QAM. Close to LTE bits/Hz numbers of ~~ 16. Modulation Method:OFDM Occupied Bandwidth: 5.57 MHz Transmission Frequency: 671.142857 MHz (UHF 46ch) Transmission Power Horizontal polarization: 10 W

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard via Af
I think part of the reason for that though is wanting to get TV and movies on to the same standards. while TV always used horizontal lines before, digital cinema has used vertical lines since the beginning... the first digital theatres were 2k, which was 2048x1080 (opposed to 1080i/p TV being 1

[AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??

2014-12-12 Thread Sterling Jacobson via Af
I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE. And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in the past month. Anyone else seeing this? It's very apparent at Gigabit speeds, see attached. Same

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Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Jerry Richardson via Af
iMovix shot the Ryder Cup in UHD It’s coming. I suspect we will see some further incremental improvements in CODECs but I see this as a good thing, nothing drives bandwidth capacity improvements like content :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af Sent

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Having a monitor like that would be good for a NOC like environment. Big screen, tons of information. Network maps, graphs, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Fri

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
How much content will really be shot in 4K? All of the Red digital video cameras record in 4K, the newer ones in 4K 60fps. Red cameras are common in Vancouver even on low-budget movie productions these days. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > > I think the other parame

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I think the other parameter is 120 Hz refresh, right? But remember all the complaining about Peter Jackson shooting in 48fps and making it impossible to “suspend disbelief”? And remember how TV shows had to rebuild their sets and talking heads needed more makeup and Botox and pimple cream for 1

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
If 8K transmission will really need dual pol yagis on home rooftops for OTA, I predict a surge in <800 MHz dual pol yagi manufacturing On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: > > They used Ultra-multilevel OFDM 2048QAM -AND- dual-polarized MIMO... damn. > > -- > Chris

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Christopher Tyler via Af
They used Ultra-multilevel OFDM 2048QAM -AND- dual-polarized MIMO... damn. -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:37:42 AM Subject

Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

2014-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
NHK's 8K OTA test has a bitrate of something like 93 Mbps, that includes the FEC... http://www.nhk.or.jp/strl/english/data/20140203.pdf On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: > > > http://hothardware.com/news/we-dont-need-no-stinkin-4k-lg-says-theyre-bringing-the-8k-love >

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