Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber PoE off DC

2015-01-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Seconding the Tycon one, works great. Not particularly low cost but worth it, IMHO. I believe they have outsourced the power supply manufacturing to a Taiwanese DC PS manufacturer as the casing looks suspiciously familiar.   Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-internati

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Training Friday Morning after Animal farm

2015-01-30 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I don't know if there is space or time available Thursday night, or if there is enough interest. If anyone else wants to chime in... or we can just figure it out there. On Jan 29, 2015 11:32 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Anyway to do 2 trainings? I leave early Friday ! > On Jan 11, 2015 8:30 PM, wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium and these ePMP part numbers

2015-01-30 Thread David Milholen
Yes, I strongly suggest anyone using cambium gear get the best out what they are using or going to use by attending the courses that they offer. In order to truly know what your getting for the money you are spending. I would not of ever deployed any ptp800 if I did not attend the official tra

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber pricing.

2015-01-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
In my experience, we have seen SDR11 kink at times in our plow as it is. 13.5 is just a few cent savings that you should probably avoid. Also some permitting will allow SDR11 instead of something like PVC pipe. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: > SDR13.5 is f

Re: [AFMUG] OT Who's in charge?

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
How dumb can it be if its the solution that works? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:39:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Who's in ch

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Darren Shea
TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/po

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Baird
So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea wrote: > TJ, > >We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the > sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and

[AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Travis Johnson
Minimum definition of "broadband" is now 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up. My question is, if you say "up to", does that qualify? ;) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/fcc_sextuples_broadband_speed/ Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Paul McCall
We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with th

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Nate Burke
I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCal

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 meg. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing > of

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Nate Burke
It's been a couple months, but I think It persisted with 1G and 100m, I do have it set to 100m now, but I'm pretty sure to get it to completely clear up, I had to disable the Sync on the Sync Injector. On 1/30/2015 9:14 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I ju

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I've been 100% fine with 100 meg and CMM sync from the gig syncinjector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:18 AM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > It's been a couple months, but I think It persisted with 1G and 100m, I > do ha

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Paul McCall
We have had some of our longer runs (280ft+) have occasional problems with all of the sync over power sources… sometimes its great for a couple weeks, months then stops, sometimes no go from the beginning, sometimes everything perfect. The longer runs, at times, will definitely “stress” the

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy
How many WISPs out there offer 25x3? What do you charge for it? Are there bandwidth limits or is it unlimited? I'm trying to understand how we could reliably provide this service without putting 5-10 customers per AP. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Minimum definition

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andy Trimmell
The customers we have on 25Mbps barely use it to its full extent. Streaming services are only using about 5Mbps of it. When they're browsing the web they use anywhere from 10-20 but its seldom and its just bursting. I wouldn't try 25Mbps on UBNT sectors but there's some GPS timed stuff out ther

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
We use all the above, depending on the POP. We've found they are all reliable as long as the GPS antenna is in a decent location. We have one syncpipe that loses sync about once a month, but we're certain it's because of the poor location we're using for the GPS antenna. bp On 1/30/2015 6

Re: [AFMUG] [FS] Training ONLINE

2015-01-30 Thread That One Guy
can you post syllabus anyway, if it was full and there is still interest coming in then maybe another class. I took the Imagestream one a long while ago you did, hoping this is the same format and the boss will come off the cash On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On 01/27/20

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Paul McCall
Andy, but is that a SUSTAINED 25/5? Can a customer hit it for 3 solid hours that way (and actually get the bandwidth) and you are OK with it? In my book, you cant assume someone doing that is going to hit their 300gbit cap necessarily, but they can sure mess with you other capacity’s (AP, BH

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy
Do you share your burst and sustained rates with the customer? Will you share them here? Do you offer a 25Mbps burst Paul? Your website is down. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > Andy, but is that a SUSTAINED 25/5? Can a customer hit it for 3 solid > hours that way (and a

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
At 10 Mbps, you're doing something like 100 GB per day if the rate is sustained. We have one individual on our network that is running Citrix at home for his business, and he does approximately that rate sustained 24x7. His data consumption is approximately 1/2 terabyte per week. If you sup

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andy Trimmell
thats where the 300GB comes in. If they run 25Mbps 24/7 they're going to get overages for $1/GB That's the mechanism for keeping the excessive use at bay. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andy Trimmell
It's just 25Mbps. We dont do burst rates anymore because of the streaming experience really doesnt like it. They pay for 25Mbps and they get speeds "up to" that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
Luckily, this particular guy is on a dedicated 25x25 service. We don't care how much he uses. Turns out his big thing is running Citrix all the time, and it only requires 6 to 10 Mbps. bp On 1/30/2015 8:26 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: thats where the 300GB comes in. If they run 25Mbps 24/7 th

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andy Trimmell
well ya dedicated is a completely different monster. They pay a premium and i dont care what they do with it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Luckily, this particular guy is

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Apple TV, on Netflix for instance, will always ignore the user account bandwidth setting and will try to stream the highest quality version of the content available. This is why we started providing rokus to customers on new installs. On January 30, 2015 6:56:57 AM AKST, Andy Trimmell wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Paul McCall
Jeremy, Yes we share that info with the customer. Here is our rate plan. Of course, the top ends (burst or sustained) of any plan will need to adjust upward as the market does. This method, right or wrong, was designed to make sure that customers who are sustaining bandwidth are paying for i

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Paul McCall
Our philosophy is that we can still get “hurt” at the infrastructure level by someone that would insist on using 25Mbit/sec for 3 days straight that wouldn’t hit the 300gbit cap. We find we get more sustained type users (streaming HD) than ever before. Nothing worse than getting 5 or 6 people

[AFMUG] Its not too late to register for Animal Farm!

2015-01-30 Thread Traci

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor

2015-01-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Product request: Please make something as beefy as the $195 Transtector surge suppressor with a metal enclosure that is like a king size version of the GIGESS-HV... On 1/30/15 5:16 PM, Traci wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor

2015-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
The circuit is as beefy. And we do have the TWR larger unit. Is it the metal case you like? -Original Message- From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor Product request: Please make something as beefy as th

Re: [AFMUG] [FS] Training ONLINE

2015-01-30 Thread Matt
>> Can we get a detailed syllabus for what is covered in this class? > > > This class was as full as I can do for online training class. I didn't see > this question until just now, so I apologize. Would like to see a Mikrotik essentials online class. Imagine that would be at least 3 days though

[AFMUG] Fiber installation in Utah

2015-01-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
Looking for a fiber contractor interested in doing a fiber installation in Utah, it is a government project. Hit me offlist. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291

[AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Need about 250W Recommendations for reliable unit that we can put in a cabinet. Thanks in advance! Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor

2015-01-30 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Chuck, I like the compact size of the outdoor SS units. But.. the single entry boot is a PITA. You have to bend an "offset" in the cables to get them into the ports. Not so easy when you have cold, stiff cable. It would be nice if there were feed-thru glands directly below each port. And the

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread John Woodfield
Unlimited. $200/month John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: "Jeremy" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:52am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps How many WISPs out there offer 25x3? What do you charge for

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
Iota http://www.iotaengineering.com/power.htm Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: > Need about 250W > > Recommendations for reliable unit that we can put in a

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor

2015-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
They do make larger boxes. Not sure if the market would bear the cost increase. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor Chuck, I like the compact size of the outdo

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber installation in Utah

2015-01-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Both of my partners companies do fiber projects throughout Utah. I’ll email you shortly ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:42 AM To: af@afmug.com; Principal WISPA Member List Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber installation in Utah Looking for

[AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
1. Is the 25Mbps classification immediate? 2. What are you NOW going to call your previously determined 'broadband' service? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online

[AFMUG] Itelite sectors

2015-01-30 Thread TJ Trout
For those who have been deploying itelite sectors, with either rockets or epmp were you able to find some real short n-male to rp-sma male cables or did you use longer ones? Was thinking along the lines of the ubnt 3" jumpers ? Also is the max pipe diameter really 1.5"? What are these guys thinkin

Re: [AFMUG] Itelite sectors

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Streakwave took care of the jumpers, I think they were a good 2 feet? Went to epmp. I had to use MTOWs anyways when the legs were 3" but ya the hardware is really stupid. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:42

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
We charge business customers $10 / Mbps so 25Mbps aggregate = $250/mo UNLIMITED Our 10-25mbps (no guarantees) residential experience is $65 for 150GB with $1/GB thereafter or they can choose to be throttled automatically when they hit 150Gb to 2Mbps Unlimited thereafter for the remainder of the

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't burst anything. Too gimmicky. I'm 10/2, moving to 20/4, but I may make it 25/5 just to be still considered a broadband provider. It would be at a $100 price point for residential. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Even if you don't deliver 25Mbps as defined, can't you just put a plan rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever buy, then claim broadband? I mean the other lower plan rates wouldn't be broadband, but your company could be branded as selling broadband? From: Af [m

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
I don't know if we can answer that question until we see how the rule is worded if and when it actually becomes a rule. bp On 1/30/2015 12:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Even if you don�t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can�t you just put a plan rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous p

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Which you may not be able to do in the future depending on how the net neutrality argument goes. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/30/2015 11:06 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: We are planning on introducing a “Video Streaming” type package whereas

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Andreas is in Canada. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:35:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Which you may not be able to do in the fut

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Oh, well then... :) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/30/2015 11:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Andreas is in Canada. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynold

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Glen Waldrop
Blame Canada. - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Oh, well then... :) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 01/30/2015 11:36 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Glen Waldrop
According to 477, if I have a census area that only has 1Mbps customers, then that area is labeled under served, correct? Looks like the FCC just figured a way to hand their buddies grant money or (dons tin foil hat) ultimately take over the Internet infrastructure. - Original Message --

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread SmarterBroadband
Can you control the bandwidth on a Roku? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:47 AM To: af@afmug.com; Andy Trimmell Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Apple TV, on Netflix for instance, will always ignore the user account bandwidth set

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread SmarterBroadband
+1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions Even if you don't deliver 25Mbps as defined, can't you just put a plan rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
for netflix it uses "automatic bandwidth detection" on hulu i can't remember, i think you can change the content quality manually while watching the show amazon fire tv also does ABD josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/30/2015 11:45 AM, SmarterBr

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Really? It's not like I'm making the experience poor unless you subscribe to the package. I'm offering unlimited data for a specific type of service at a cost. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web:www.silowireless.com Twitter: @silowireless Facebook.com/s

[AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread TJ Trout
Any ideas on mounting sectors and backhauls to 4" sqare tubing?

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
The Net Neutrality zealots rarely care about anything other than everything for nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Andreas Wiatowski" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:48:17 PM Subje

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread SmarterBroadband
I have customers set Netflix to Low in the My Account/Playback settings. Limits Netflix to 0.3Gb hour. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps for netflix it uses "automatic band

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Rory Conaway
Use channel bar to create a frame around the tubing and then attach the pole to that. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing Any ideas on mounting sectors and backhau

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Take me to court... Free publicity Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web:www.silowireless.com Twitter: @silowireless Facebook.com/silowireless Original message From: Mike Hammett Date:01-30-2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) To: af@afmug.com Cc: Su

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Paul McCall
Mike, Just curious if you have thought about this or how many customers you have that might impact.You would be cool with someone that streams for even 24 hours straight (no break) at 25Mbit? That doesn’t put in a crimp in your AP or BH bandwidth on any of your towers? From: Af [mailto:a

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Majority of our customers are on unlimited packages.. Minimum of 2 paths to towers with 650 full BH and licenced BH or fibre... 320, 450 5ghz or epmp, 2.3lte and some 2.4 450...most 4 sector configuration. Looking to Telrad 3.65 transition for LTE and wider channels... Key is unloading to small

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread TJ Trout
Pic? On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Use channel bar to create a frame around the tubing and then attach the > pole to that. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 1:52 PM > *To:* af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread That One Guy
upc1 and upc2 from sitepro On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Use channel bar to create a frame around the tubing and then attach the > pole to that. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 1:52

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread TJ Trout
Like welding you mean rory? On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:09 PM, That One Guy wrote: > upc1 and upc2 from sitepro > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway > wrote: > >> Use channel bar to create a frame around the tubing and then attach the >> pole to that. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *F

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread That One Guy
at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically deliver to the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband < li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > +1 > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sterli

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
Regular pipe-to-pipe clamp should work. They don't care if the pipe is square or round. Only problem with square is that it would limit you to only 4 mount angles (each corner). Like this: http://www.sitepro1.com/store/image.php?image=https://www.sitepro1.com/store/images/products/932_large5

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Glen Waldrop
Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide spread any better than we can. - Original Message - From: That One Guy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions at those sustained speeds, the only tech that coul

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
+1. They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed compared to almost everything else. Let's not even mention latency. If "broadband" included something about latency (like "just" < 200 ms for instance), then they would lose big time. bp On 1/30/2015 1:17 PM, Glen Wald

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Right, but you are showing preferential traffic based on a paid as you go model to a specific service josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/30/2015 11:48 AM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Really? It's not like I'm making the experience poor unless you su

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Rory Conaway
No welding. Put channel bars on either side of the 4” bar perpendicularly. User some all-thread to compress them against the bar. Just use the bar clamps for the channel bad. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:11 PM To: af@afmug

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Rory Conaway
The nice part is you can get this from Home Depot and it’s cheap. rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing No welding. Put channel bars on either side of the 4”

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread John Woodfield
+1 John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: "Rory Conaway" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 4:26pm To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing The nice part is you can get this from Home Depot and i

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Rory Conaway
In a pinch, we even use this for 12” poles. Little different setup but works great. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing +1 John Woodfield Delmarva WiF

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
The areas this would have potential to be problems have ample bandwidth and airtime. Just hang more sectors and put up another AF or whatever else I happen to come up with in there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Mike Hammett
FYI: I don't have anyone at the current 10 and rarely anyone at the 4 meg plans that fills their connection constantly. Dedicated users yes, but not broadband ones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mike Hamme

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Looks like 240VAC out. Need 110/120VAC Any experience with samlex? http://www.samlexamerica.com/products/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=442 Not liking the fan... A fanless version with about the same power would be ideal. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications > On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Eric

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Prince
We have a bunch of samlex chargers. Never had one fail. Don't know about their inverters bp On 1/30/2015 2:10 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Looks like 240VAC out. Need 110/120VAC Any experience with samlex? http://www.samlexamerica.com/products/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=442 Not liking the fan.

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread TJ Trout
Gotcha. So basically a home made pipe to pipe clamp? On Jan 30, 2015 1:31 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > In a pinch, we even use this for 12” poles. Little different setup but > works great. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *John Woodfield > *Sent:* Frida

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread TJ Trout
What doesn't accept 220 that can accept 120? On Jan 30, 2015 2:15 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > We have a bunch of samlex chargers. Never had one fail. Don't know > about their inverters > > bp > > > > On 1/30/2015 2:10 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: > > Looks like 240VAC out. Need 110/120VAC > >

Re: [AFMUG] Itelite sectors

2015-01-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I've never seen any n-male to rpsma that short... I've used some that were, I think 8", but I have no idea where I got them from. Streakwave has 12". I'm not sure I'd want to use something as short as 3" anyway, you would have some pretty tight bends, wouldn't you? Yeah, it really will only do abo

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Philip Rankin
Don't y'all suppose that the Commission did this so that small wisps could not get access to USF since we can't meet the 25mbs benchmark. And since they are fixin' to require us to become common carriers that rule will make us pay into the USF without being allowed to withdraw money from it becaus

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't think any of the satellite companies claim that high of speeds now, do they? Exede is 15mbps on their business plans and 12mbps for residential... I'm not sure what Hughes is doing now. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: > Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide

Re: [AFMUG] Itelite sectors

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Uhh read my message again. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 5:27 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > I've never seen any n-male to rpsma that short... I've used some that > were, I think 8", but I have no idea where I got the

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=34 From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing Any ideas on mounting sectors and backhauls to 4" sqare tubing?

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
That unit is actually made by Taiwanese company Cotek. I have one of their ST1000-148 units in service for about 3 years with no problems, probably the same unit with a transfer switch. I think you’ll find the fan only runs when needed. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 4:15 P

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
It’s depressing to think about all the government money that went to subsidize 1 Mbps (if that) Hughesnet service under the recovery act. The contradiction is like setting a standard that every citizen must get fresh whole grain organic locally grown low sugar low sodium food, just a couple yea

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy
Thanks for sharing Paul! That is a ton of service plans. Do you find customers getting confused with the larger number of options or do you find that they appreciate your flexibility? On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > Jeremy, > > > > Yes we share that info with the custome

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy
My company is called 'Blue Spring Broadband'. I will not be changing my name. We offer dedicated connections up to 100Mbps, and more on a case-by-case basis (ie. I would offer 1Gbps near the NOC to anyone willing to pay for it). Although we do not offer more than 15x3 to residential currently, I

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy
I found it interesting that the cable companies were claiming to be against this change. This seems handcrafted by them if you ask me. Every year when they request funding the WISPs in those areas (with the help of WISPA) file claims against them receiving those funds under the basis that 'broadb

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread David Milholen
Exactly... Here comes the BOOM! cable-co's On 1/30/2015 8:42 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Minimum definition of "broadband" is now 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up. My question is, if you say "up to", does that qualify? ;) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/fcc_sextuples_broadband_speed/ Travis

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread David Milholen
Low orbit ion cannon seek and destroy your netflix LOL On 1/30/2015 2:59 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Mike, Just curious if you have thought about this or how many customers you have that might impact.You would be cool with someone that streams for even 24 hours straight (no break) at 25Mbit?

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-30 Thread David Milholen
Spells Death to most 802.11 based radios. On 1/30/2015 10:06 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Andy, but is that a SUSTAINED 25/5? Can a customer hit it for 3 solid hours that way (and actually get the bandwidth) and you are OK with it? In my book, you cant assume someone doing that is going to hit

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Turns out TS Pro 8 has a 120VAC to 48VDC power supply inside... http://community.ubnt.com/t5/ToughSwitch/ToughSwitch-Pro-Teardown-1/td-p/360656 DC-DC converter to regulate 48V into the switch and problem solved. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications > On Jan 30, 2015, at 2:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/30/15 11:39, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote: 1.Is the 25Mbps classification immediate? 2.What are you NOW going to call your previously determined �broadband� service? Internet access High speed internet Turbo speed internets Faster than the other guy's internet Po

Re: [AFMUG] Small 48VDC to 120VAC inverter

2015-01-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Get rid of those toughswitches ASAP in my opinion. Tiny buffers, desktop grade switch chipset, ~2% packetloss just pinging through the switch with only 2 devices connected. We have been proactive in purging them from our network for edgeswitches and now netonix. netonix is also about to relea

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Keep in mind the cable companies don't get federal subsidies. The cable data operations are unregulated information service exactly like us, and they can easily meet the 25/3. They are opposed because it means the telcos are going to be given federal money to upgrade to 25/3 and become compe

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing

2015-01-30 Thread Rory Conaway
Yep. Costs about $10 and if you keep the length of the channel bar tight, it looks good. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mounting to 4" Square tubing Gotcha. So basically a home made

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-30 Thread Jason McKemie
Doesn't this just mean if you don't offer service of at least 25mbps your area won't count as served? I'm pretty sure you can call your service whatever you damn well please. On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Keep in mind the cable companies don't get federal subsidies. The c

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Surge Suppressor

2015-01-30 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
OK, just looked at it again. There's no way in hell that would work with the current enclosure dimensions, not even if it was deeper. All we're using now is the GigESS-HV since it's universal. If it wouldn't be too much more to change the enclosure and do the feed-thru glands, then I'd be happ

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