Re: [AFMUG] New customer video

2015-06-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
impressive Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: > We have had one of our engineers from Israel traveling the U.S. for the > past few weeks assisting with the volume of new customer trials. He has > routine of shooting a qui

Re: [AFMUG] MFi sensor

2015-06-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Thanks Jaime Solorza On Jun 10, 2015 9:10 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Yes. They can be a bit problematic, but you get one working and set its > bias correctly and it works for the most part. > > > > I use them in outdoor cabinets and at the office etc. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative

2015-06-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off (no thanks to Comcast for killing it). I’ll email you. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative Hi folks, For those

Re: [AFMUG] MFi sensor

2015-06-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yes. They can be a bit problematic, but you get one working and set its bias correctly and it works for the most part. I use them in outdoor cabinets and at the office etc. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:44 AM To: Animal Farm Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing

2015-06-10 Thread Glen Waldrop
There is a ton of good information on the MT forums. Offer still stands. - Original Message - From: Brett A Mansfield To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing I did figure it out, thanks. Now I need to figure out the fi

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
Like I said, it was shaped by 3 different legal teams :) Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/10/2015 02:58 PM, Hass, Douglas A. wrote: That is much stronger and more likely to succeed then your last (admittedly shorthand) argument that blocking a delivery method is not the s

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
We set up door sensors at well sites doors to control rooms. As soon as door opens, command center gets a notification doors are opened. They usually know who is at wells as part of daily routine where SCADA and Maintenance crews must contact base when entering sites. Boosters and Waste Water h

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
That is much stronger and more likely to succeed then your last (admittedly shorthand) argument that blocking a delivery method is not the same as blocking content. :-) El jun. 10, 2015 5:44 PM, Josh Reynolds escribió: A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, inso

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing

2015-06-10 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I did figure it out, thanks. Now I need to figure out the firewall. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Jun 10, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: > > Get it figured out? > > I might be able to give you a hand. Hit me up off list. > > > > From: Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Wednesday, June

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing

2015-06-10 Thread Glen Waldrop
Get it figured out? I might be able to give you a hand. Hit me up off list. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing I have. I even tried it not bridged. I can always get it working just fine with NAT on a private

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
That hurts just thinking about it. But wasn’t that one busted on Mythbusters? Oh wait, that was the third rail, and according to a Google search, they retested with an electric fence and it was confirmed. From: joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not block lawful content, applications, services, or nonharmful devices, /subject to reasonable network management//./ A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet acc

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Many towers have a locking door that can be added to cover the bottom of the pegs or ladder. From: joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security This is in city limits cops wouldn't be far away On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, "joseph

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
It actually looks like I was totally wrong, you haven’t been able to do it since this FCC Declaratory Ruling in 2008: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-284286A1.pdf From: Hass, Douglas A. Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz v

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
I disagree that you could split hairs that way. Blocking a method has the effect of blocking content, which is all that someone needs to show. El jun. 10, 2015 4:52 PM, Josh Reynolds escribió: You're a lawyer now? :) For the record, blocking a delivery method != blocking content. Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
You need to be a lawyer now to have an opinion? But apparently not to have an attitude. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz You're a lawyer now? :) For the record, blocking a delivery method != blocking content

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
You're a lawyer now? :) For the record, blocking a delivery method != blocking content. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/10/2015 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: You are not allowed to block legal content. Period. If you rate limit it, you could perhaps claim it is reasonable

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Rory Conaway
Yep. Our authentication server just writes them out to logs. Have to pull some old servers off the shelf but they are accessible. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20m

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Paul McCall
DO YOU have a 7 year record of the websites that customers are going to ? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz If you explain to the customer that you have 7 years of reco

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing

2015-06-10 Thread Butch Evans
On 06/10/2015 03:52 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On 06/09/2015 11:42 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: They can ping the WAN public, but not the next hop. This usually indicates a problem on the upstream router. No route or wrong route to the public subnet. To add a little to this. If the symptom is

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Rory Conaway
If you explain to the customer that you have 7 years of records that you can bring to the legal fight of all the websites he connected to, I’m guessing nobody will want to continue that fight. We didn’t talk to 3 lawyers but the 2 we did talk to both worked for Microsoft at some point and they

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing

2015-06-10 Thread Butch Evans
On 06/09/2015 11:42 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: They can ping the WAN public, but not the next hop. This usually indicates a problem on the upstream router. No route or wrong route to the public subnet. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
I don't screw around with them any more On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, "joseph marsh" wrote: Fence charger ? On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. > > > > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. > > den...@link

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
I have actually pissed on one when I was a kid. Didn't feel good On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, "joseph marsh" wrote: > Fence charger ? > On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > >> Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. >> >> >> >> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link

[AFMUG] New customer video

2015-06-10 Thread Patrick Leary
We have had one of our engineers from Israel traveling the U.S. for the past few weeks assisting with the volume of new customer trials. He has routine of shooting a quick wrap-up video after he is done if the WISP staff/owner he's been working with is game. The past few weeks he's been in UT, C

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Stewart
ROFL – my wife says the same thing ..;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security That explains a lot. ;-) bp On 6/10/2015 12:44 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Hehehe..

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder if I can put a clause in the TOS saying all disputes will be decided by Judge Judy. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz No one is ever exempt from being sued, even if they have a "may not sue" clause. T

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
You are not allowed to block legal content. Period. If you rate limit it, you could perhaps claim it is reasonable network management, but “no throttling” is another of the 3 bright line rules. Remember one of the 2 or 3 actual cases of “bad behavior” cited for justifying all this was Comcast

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
No one is ever exempt from being sued, even if they have a "may not sue" clause. That is irrelevant to if what we are doing is "legal" or not, which our lawyers tell us it is. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/10/2015 11:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can be sued for any

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Bill Prince
That explains a lot. ;-) bp On 6/10/2015 12:44 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Hehehe.. used to stick our tongues on them as kids … only did that once (or in my case for some reason twice LOL)

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
You can be sued for any reason at any time. You're not clear. You'll probably win and I expect you would. Think hot coffee litigation. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 10, 2015 3:46 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I'll say thi

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'll say this again: After consulting with no less than 3 legal firms who specialize in communications/fcc law, we are in the clear. I'm not going to get into a debate about the legality of this because (A) I'm not a lawyer and (B) neither are you. We have been told that subscribers agree to th

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Stewart
Hehehe.. used to stick our tongues on them as kids … only did that once (or in my case for some reason twice LOL) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security I remember being

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
IMO your only concern should be getting sued. Anyone that's torrenting stuff probably doesn't have the money for a lawyer to do that. Do you do any CIR connections for businesses? Do you block them? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
And after that based on the legal advice we have received from no less than 3 Communications Lawyers Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/10/2015 09:41 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: And you can legally do it until this Friday. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread James Howard
http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/mike-schoby/2007/09/remote-control-hunting Not sure if it got off the ground. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security Remote control rifl

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
Remote control rifle I know. I'm dreaming On Jun 10, 2015 2:10 PM, wrote: > Some one needs to invent a automatic rifle there is a field there and > kill deer from the office. Lol > On Jun 10, 2015 2:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> There are also porch lights with built in motion sensors, if t

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
Some one needs to invent a automatic rifle there is a field there and kill deer from the office. Lol On Jun 10, 2015 2:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > There are also porch lights with built in motion sensors, if there’s a > shelter you could put on on the outside, might be nice to have an automat

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
There are also porch lights with built in motion sensors, if there’s a shelter you could put on on the outside, might be nice to have an automatic light anyway. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security Fence,

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Fence, barbed wire, sign, needless to say. Locked climb guard on the tower Prominent cameras, real or fake (we put big ones up around our building, have had 2 vandalisms in a year compared to weekly prior) DVR surveillance systems are dirt cheap (as with anything you get what you par for) but yo

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I remember being at Farm & Fleet and seeing a training fence charger for calves. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. Dennis Burgess, CTO

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
This is in city limits cops wouldn't be far away On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, "joseph marsh" wrote: > Fence charger ? > On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > >> Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. >> >> >> >> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, I

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Stewart
Fence with barb wire, locked gate, anticlimb panels, cameras, motion activated lighting … slows them down at least :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security That doesn

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
Fence charger ? On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. > > > > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. > > den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
My idea has more...potential... =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. > > > > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sen

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
Who sell the gate contact sensors ? Preferred vendor on motion activated cameras On Jun 10, 2015 1:28 PM, "Justin Wilson - MTIN" wrote: > Several things comes to mind. > > 1.Contact sensors on the compound gates > 2.A shield over the safety ladder with a contact sensor hooked to an > audible ala

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Several things comes to mind. 1.Contact sensors on the compound gates 2.A shield over the safety ladder with a contact sensor hooked to an audible alarm 3.Motion activated cameras for first line of defense. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net Managed Service

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do you already have a fence with locked gate and razor wire around the tower? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security That doesn't really help prevent it, though. That just catches the guy that already did the damage.

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
That doesn't really help prevent it, though. That just catches the guy that already did the damage. I'd do something like make the camera very obvious and motion activated lights if you want to do prevention. What about using the sheet metal things for the base of the tower? Josh Luthman Offic

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
We are gonna put cameras up anyways Who sells the motion sensor with snapshot notification?? On Jun 10, 2015 1:10 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Motion sensor surveillance with snapshot notification, any cheap DVR will > do that now. Get the snapshot so you know whether its manpeople of r

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Motion sensor surveillance with snapshot notification, any cheap DVR will do that now. Get the snapshot so you know whether its manpeople of racoons On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > That is an excellent idea! not only will you be alerted, but it's highly > unlikely they'll

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
Lol On Jun 10, 2015 1:07 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Put 220vac on the tower. You'll definitely get a phone call if someone > climbs without permission. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:02

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Mathew Howard
That is an excellent idea! not only will you be alerted, but it's highly unlikely they'll ever try again :P On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Put 220vac on the tower. You'll definitely get a phone call if someone > climbs without permission. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937

Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Put 220vac on the tower. You'll definitely get a phone call if someone climbs without permission. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:02 PM, joseph marsh wrote: > Is there a system to use to prevent unauthor

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT support command line?

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Because you're using CNUT in Windows =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Looks like I'm just talking to myself. Oh well. > > The problem was the command line had been truncated.

[AFMUG] Cell tower security

2015-06-10 Thread joseph marsh
Is there a system to use to prevent unauthorized tower climbing that will alert us if someone climbs without permission?

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT support command line?

2015-06-10 Thread Bill Prince
Looks like I'm just talking to myself. Oh well. The problem was the command line had been truncated. It should have been: java -cp tools/CNUTSupportInfoTool.jar -DSettingsFile=%CANOPYNETWORKUPDATER.SETTINGS_FILE_PATH% -DLogFile=%CANOPYNETWORKUPDATER.EVENT_LOG_PATH% -DNetFile=%CANOPYN

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
IMHO it’s another matter when someone calls wanting tech support for problems that only occur with their VPN to Europe. And BTW, they usually end up saying the packet loss or slowness or whatever turned out to be the fault of their VPN provider. (Please, let it not be Hola) Similarly, when so

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
And you can legally do it until this Friday. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz We have been blocking torrents as a network protection measure for over 6 years using various DPI and behavioral detection systems

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
We have been blocking torrents as a network protection measure for over 6 years using various DPI and behavioral detection systems, and its in our AUP. We have never lost a customer or even had a complaint because of it. On Jun 10, 2015 4:56 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:Agreed. I don't even want to thi

Re: [AFMUG] http://saisei.com/

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
Conformation source for this info? On Jun 10, 2015 5:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:They licensed the Procera engine (though I understand it to be missing some granularity) and make it available at a $/user/month instead of a $30k box. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Clean cuts. Jaime Solorza On Jun 10, 2015 10:27 AM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Pretty amazing escape. At least one of these guys must be ingenuitive to > say the least. > > On Wednesday, June 10, 2015, Bill Prince wrote: > >> I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Jason McKemie
Pretty amazing escape. At least one of these guys must be ingenuitive to say the least. On Wednesday, June 10, 2015, Bill Prince wrote: > I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news > this morning that they found the tools they think they used. > > bp > > > > On 6/10/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Jeremy
That had to have made a TON of noise! On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > wasnt this pretty much how the original escape from alcatraz movie went > down? > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> w

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Jeremy
What / where is this? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news > this morning that they found the tools they think they used. > > bp > > > > On 6/10/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
wasnt this pretty much how the original escape from alcatraz movie went down? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/07/us/new-york-escapees/ > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/07/us/new-york-escapees/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy wrote: > What / where is this? > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > >> I would gues

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Bill Prince
I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news this morning that they found the tools they think they used. bp On 6/10/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

[AFMUG] ISP Radio TODAY -- Call in, Business Practices, VoIP and Compliance

2015-06-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Have a nice day! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >

[AFMUG] OT Sawzall or abraisive cut off disk?

2015-06-10 Thread Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX question

2015-06-10 Thread James Howard
Interesting. We’ve used Vitelity ourselves for probably 7 years now but primarily as a backup SIP trunk provider. The quality of the calls has never been as good as Flowroute for us but as a backup it’s worked fine. We switched to Flowroute because of intermittent issues we were seeing with V

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing

2015-06-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
Brett, Just a suggestion, call someone that can help you. You will spend a bit but you can get it going quickly. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of

[AFMUG] ISPRadio show recommendations.

2015-06-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
WE are looking for topics, show suggestions, or if you have a topic that you would like to speak on, contact us off-list at sa...@ispradio.com! All suggestions welcome! Thanks, [DennisBurgessSignature] www.linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 - d

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Rory Conaway
I was just suggesting that although we do open up VPN’s for customers and although we haven’t had this happen yet, we do know that there will be people trying to use overseas VPN’s for torrents. Keep in mind we also only provide NAT’ed services along with an increased security capability which

[AFMUG] Wi-Fi signals can do rough head counts

2015-06-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2933832/wifi-signals-can-do-rough-head-counts.html Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] http://saisei.com/

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
They licensed the Procera engine (though I understand it to be missing some granularity) and make it available at a $/user/month instead of a $30k box. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -

Re: [AFMUG] http://saisei.com/

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Stewart
Heard of it .. don't know much about it - heard second hand it's ok for small networks . take that with a grain of salt.:) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] http://saisei.com/ Anybody usin

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Agreed. I don't even want to think about how many calls we would have to deal with if blocked VPNs... and torrents for that matter. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Yes and blindly killing things is a terrible practice. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing S

Re: [AFMUG] http://saisei.com/

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
We looked at offering it as a value add to other ISPs, but that project has been stuck on hold. It looks like a great platform. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP sync differences CMM3 vs CMM4.

2015-06-10 Thread David Milholen
I am hoping for some changes on the cmm4 units. 1) some kind of snmp for logging voltage 2)GigE support 3) Keep TVSS Once this comes around I will buy more of them. They are great for my 450 APs we have. On 6/3/2015 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >Thoughts? Don't buy a CMM4. Josh Luthman Offi

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Paul McCall
Rory, you mention VPN. But, a lot of VPNs aren’t torrents, and a lot of torrents aren’t VPNs, right ? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz We use Barracuda Web Filters

[AFMUG] http://saisei.com/

2015-06-10 Thread Paul McCall
Anybody using this tool? http://saisei.com/ Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes and blindly killing things is a terrible practice. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Paul McCall" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:12

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 450 3.65ghz

2015-06-10 Thread David Milholen
We do both nLOS and NLOS here without much issue. Just dont try it thru any pine or needle type trees. Most nLOS shots we have are around 5 and 6 mile and NLOS are around 3 and 4 Anything below a -76db for total strength we question it due to rain fade and other unpredictable weather issues tha

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted PBX question

2015-06-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
I would suggest using someone who used ipifony. We lived it when we sold their hosted and still use it. On Jun 9, 2015 10:46 AM, "James Howard" wrote: > A friend who used to be a customer back in our IT consulting days asked me > for a recommendation for hosted PBX. They are outside of our servi

Re: [AFMUG] At least two companies realize what a bad idea this is.

2015-06-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
Who would ever think they should have been there in the first place? Mind you, I think the sore provider of US space flight will be profitable but just because you have money doesn't men you should be in whatever business you feel like. On Jun 10, 2015 12:37 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > http://qz