Who would ever think they should have been there in the first place? Mind
you, I think the sore provider of US space flight will be profitable but
just because you have money doesn't men you should be in whatever business
you feel like.
On Jun 10, 2015 12:37 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
I would suggest using someone who used ipifony. We lived it when we sold
their hosted and still use it.
On Jun 9, 2015 10:46 AM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:
A friend who used to be a customer back in our IT consulting days asked me
for a recommendation for hosted PBX. They are
Rory, you mention VPN. But, a lot of VPNs aren’t torrents, and a lot of
torrents aren’t VPNs, right ?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
We use Barracuda Web
I am hoping for some changes on the cmm4 units.
1) some kind of snmp for logging voltage
2)GigE support
3) Keep TVSS
Once this comes around I will buy more of them.
They are great for my 450 APs we have.
On 6/3/2015 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Thoughts?
Don't buy a CMM4.
Josh Luthman
Agreed. I don't even want to think about how many calls we would have to
deal with if blocked VPNs... and torrents for that matter.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Yes and blindly killing things is a terrible practice.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent
We do both nLOS and NLOS here without much issue. Just dont try it thru
any pine or needle type
trees. Most nLOS shots we have are around 5 and 6 mile and NLOS are
around 3 and 4
Anything below a -76db for total strength we question it due to rain
fade and other unpredictable
weather issues
Anybody using this tool?
http://saisei.com/
Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/
pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Heard of it .. don't know much about it - heard second hand it's ok for
small networks . take that with a grain of salt.:)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] http://saisei.com/
Anybody
They licensed the Procera engine (though I understand it to be missing some
granularity) and make it available at a $/user/month instead of a $30k box.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
Yes and blindly killing things is a terrible practice.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday,
We looked at offering it as a value add to other ISPs, but that project has
been stuck on hold. It looks like a great platform.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2933832/wifi-signals-can-do-rough-head-counts.html
Jaime Solorza
Brett,
Just a suggestion, call someone that can help you. You will spend a bit but
you can get it going quickly.
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf
Interesting. We’ve used Vitelity ourselves for probably 7 years now but
primarily as a backup SIP trunk provider. The quality of the calls has never
been as good as Flowroute for us but as a backup it’s worked fine. We switched
to Flowroute because of intermittent issues we were seeing with
wasnt this pretty much how the original escape from alcatraz movie went
down?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/07/us/new-york-escapees/
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite
Clean cuts.
Jaime Solorza
On Jun 10, 2015 10:27 AM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
wrote:
Pretty amazing escape. At least one of these guys must be ingenuitive to
say the least.
On Wednesday, June 10, 2015, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I would guess some sort of
I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news
this morning that they found the tools they think they used.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/10/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
What / where is this?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news
this morning that they found the tools they think they used.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/10/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck
Pretty amazing escape. At least one of these guys must be ingenuitive to
say the least.
On Wednesday, June 10, 2015, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I would guess some sort of abrasive cutting disk. I heard on the news
this morning that they found the tools they think they used.
bp
http://www.ispradio.com/Today we will take your calls at 636-707-0074,
general discussion on business practices, leasing, VOIP, and compliance.
Wednesday 11am CST
Don't forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media player
and listen while in your car free of charge
And after that based on the legal advice we have received from no less
than 3 Communications Lawyers
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 06/10/2015 09:41 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
And you can legally do it until this Friday.
*From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
*Sent:*
You can be sued for any reason at any time. You're not clear. You'll
probably win and I expect you would. Think hot coffee litigation.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 10, 2015 3:46 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
That explains a lot. ;-)
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/10/2015 12:44 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Hehehe.. used to stick our tongues on them as kids … only did that
once (or in my case for some reason twice LOL)
You are not allowed to block legal content. Period.
If you rate limit it, you could perhaps claim it is reasonable network
management, but “no throttling” is another of the 3 bright line rules.
Remember one of the 2 or 3 actual cases of “bad behavior” cited for justifying
all this was Comcast
ROFL – my wife says the same thing ..;)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
That explains a lot. ;-)
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 6/10/2015 12:44 PM,
We have had one of our engineers from Israel traveling the U.S. for the past
few weeks assisting with the volume of new customer trials. He has routine of
shooting a quick wrap-up video after he is done if the WISP staff/owner he's
been working with is game. The past few weeks he's been in UT,
I have actually pissed on one when I was a kid. Didn't feel good
On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:
Fence charger ?
On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
IMO your only concern should be getting sued. Anyone that's torrenting
stuff probably doesn't have the money for a lawyer to do that.
Do you do any CIR connections for businesses? Do you block them?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
I wonder if I can put a clause in the TOS saying all disputes will be decided
by Judge Judy.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
No one is ever exempt from being sued, even if they have a may not sue
clause.
We have been blocking torrents as a network protection measure for over 6 years using various DPI and behavioral detection systems, and its in our AUP. We have never lost a customer or even had a complaint because of it.
On Jun 10, 2015 4:56 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:Agreed. I
Because you're using CNUT in Windows =P
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like I'm just talking to myself. Oh well.
The problem was the command line
Fence charger ?
On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
*From:* Af
My idea has more...potential... =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
wrote:
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
Dennis
I don't screw around with them any more
On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:
Fence charger ?
On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
Dennis Burgess, CTO,
On 06/09/2015 11:42 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
They can ping the WAN public, but not the next hop.
This usually indicates a problem on the upstream router. No route or
wrong route to the public subnet.
--
Butch Evans
702-537-0979
Network Support and Engineering
Some one needs to invent a automatic rifle there is a field there and kill
deer from the office. Lol
On Jun 10, 2015 2:06 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
There are also porch lights with built in motion sensors, if there’s a
shelter you could put on on the outside, might be nice to
http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/mike-schoby/2007/09/remote-control-hunting
Not sure if it got off the ground.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
Remote control
I'll say this again: After consulting with no less than 3 legal firms
who specialize in communications/fcc law, we are in the clear. I'm not
going to get into a debate about the legality of this because (A) I'm
not a lawyer and (B) neither are you. We have been told that subscribers
agree to
If you explain to the customer that you have 7 years of records that you can
bring to the legal fight of all the websites he connected to, I’m guessing
nobody will want to continue that fight. We didn’t talk to 3 lawyers but the 2
we did talk to both worked for Microsoft at some point and they
Remote control rifle I know. I'm dreaming
On Jun 10, 2015 2:10 PM, wrote:
Some one needs to invent a automatic rifle there is a field there and
kill deer from the office. Lol
On Jun 10, 2015 2:06 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
There are also porch lights with built in motion
Hehehe.. used to stick our tongues on them as kids … only did that once (or in
my case for some reason twice LOL)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
I remember
No one is ever exempt from being sued, even if they have a may not sue
clause. That is irrelevant to if what we are doing is legal or not,
which our lawyers tell us it is.
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 06/10/2015 11:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
You can be sued for any
And you can legally do it until this Friday.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
We have been blocking torrents as a network protection measure for over 6 years
using various DPI and behavioral detection
We are gonna put cameras up anyways
Who sells the motion sensor with snapshot notification??
On Jun 10, 2015 1:10 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:
Motion sensor surveillance with snapshot notification, any cheap DVR will
do that now. Get the snapshot so you know
Who sell the gate contact sensors ?
Preferred vendor on motion activated cameras
On Jun 10, 2015 1:28 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net wrote:
Several things comes to mind.
1.Contact sensors on the compound gates
2.A shield over the safety ladder with a contact sensor hooked to an
IMHO it’s another matter when someone calls wanting tech support for problems
that only occur with their VPN to Europe. And BTW, they usually end up saying
the packet loss or slowness or whatever turned out to be the fault of their VPN
provider. (Please, let it not be Hola)
Similarly, when
That doesn't really help prevent it, though. That just catches the guy
that already did the damage.
I'd do something like make the camera very obvious and motion activated
lights if you want to do prevention. What about using the sheet metal
things for the base of the tower?
Josh Luthman
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.netmailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 –
www.linktechs.nethttp://www.linktechs.net
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent:
There are also porch lights with built in motion sensors, if there’s a shelter
you could put on on the outside, might be nice to have an automatic light
anyway.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
Conformation source for this info?
On Jun 10, 2015 5:18 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:They licensed the Procera engine (though I understand it to be missing some granularity) and make it available at a $/user/month instead of a $30k box.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
That is an excellent idea! not only will you be alerted, but it's highly
unlikely they'll ever try again :P
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
Put 220vac on the tower. You'll definitely get a phone call if someone
climbs without permission.
Motion sensor surveillance with snapshot notification, any cheap DVR will
do that now. Get the snapshot so you know whether its manpeople of racoons
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
That is an excellent idea! not only will you be alerted, but it's
Fence with barb wire, locked gate, anticlimb panels, cameras, motion activated
lighting … slows them down at least :)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
That
Looks like I'm just talking to myself. Oh well.
The problem was the command line had been truncated. It should have been:
java -cp tools/CNUTSupportInfoTool.jar
-DSettingsFile=%CANOPYNETWORKUPDATER.SETTINGS_FILE_PATH%
-DLogFile=%CANOPYNETWORKUPDATER.EVENT_LOG_PATH%
Lol
On Jun 10, 2015 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Put 220vac on the tower. You'll definitely get a phone call if someone
climbs without permission.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jun
I remember being at Farm Fleet and seeing a training fence charger for calves.
From: Dennis Burgess
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
Dennis Burgess,
Is there a system to use to prevent unauthorized tower climbing that will
alert us if someone climbs without permission?
Put 220vac on the tower. You'll definitely get a phone call if someone
climbs without permission.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:02 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com
wrote:
Is there a system to
Do you already have a fence with locked gate and razor wire around the tower?
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
That doesn't really help prevent it, though. That just catches the guy that
already did the
Several things comes to mind.
1.Contact sensors on the compound gates
2.A shield over the safety ladder with a contact sensor hooked to an audible
alarm
3.Motion activated cameras for first line of defense.
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
http://www.mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/ Managed Services
This is in city limits cops wouldn't be far away
On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:
Fence charger ?
On Jun 10, 2015 1:50 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
Forgot to add like 90v to the fence.. just enough for them to go, WTF.
Dennis
Fence, barbed wire, sign, needless to say.
Locked climb guard on the tower
Prominent cameras, real or fake (we put big ones up around our building,
have had 2 vandalisms in a year compared to weekly prior)
DVR surveillance systems are dirt cheap (as with anything you get what you
par for) but
You need to be a lawyer now to have an opinion? But apparently not to have an
attitude.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
You're a lawyer now? :)
For the record, blocking a delivery method != blocking
A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service,
insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not block lawful content,
applications, services, or nonharmful devices, /subject to reasonable
network management//./
A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet
That hurts just thinking about it. But wasn’t that one busted on Mythbusters?
Oh wait, that was the third rail, and according to a Google search, they
retested with an electric fence and it was confirmed.
From: joseph marsh
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject:
You're a lawyer now? :)
For the record, blocking a delivery method != blocking content.
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 06/10/2015 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
You are not allowed to block legal content. Period.
If you rate limit it, you could perhaps claim it is
Many towers have a locking door that can be added to cover the bottom of the
pegs or ladder.
From: joseph marsh
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cell tower security
This is in city limits cops wouldn't be far away
On Jun 10, 2015 1:54 PM, joseph
I did figure it out, thanks. Now I need to figure out the firewall.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Jun 10, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote:
Get it figured out?
I might be able to give you a hand. Hit me up off list.
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent:
That is much stronger and more likely to succeed then your last (admittedly
shorthand) argument that blocking a delivery method is not the same as blocking
content. :-)
El jun. 10, 2015 5:44 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com escribió:
A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet
On 06/10/2015 03:52 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
On 06/09/2015 11:42 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
They can ping the WAN public, but not the next hop.
This usually indicates a problem on the upstream router. No route or
wrong route to the public subnet.
To add a little to this. If the symptom
It actually looks like I was totally wrong, you haven’t been able to do it
since this FCC Declaratory Ruling in 2008:
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-284286A1.pdf
From: Hass, Douglas A.
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz
I disagree that you could split hairs that way. Blocking a method has the
effect of blocking content, which is all that someone needs to show.
El jun. 10, 2015 4:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com escribió:
You're a lawyer now? :)
For the record, blocking a delivery method != blocking
Get it figured out?
I might be able to give you a hand. Hit me up off list.
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing
I have. I even tried it not bridged. I can always get it working just fine with
NAT on a
DO YOU have a 7 year record of the websites that customers are going to ?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
If you explain to the customer that you have 7 years of
Yep. Our authentication server just writes them out to logs. Have to pull
some old servers off the shelf but they are accessible.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs
We set up door sensors at well sites doors to control rooms. As soon as
door opens, command center gets a notification doors are opened. They
usually know who is at wells as part of daily routine where SCADA and
Maintenance crews must contact base when entering sites. Boosters and
Waste Water
There is a ton of good information on the MT forums. Offer still stands.
- Original Message -
From: Brett A Mansfield
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik routing
I did figure it out, thanks. Now I need to figure out the
Like I said, it was shaped by 3 different legal teams :)
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 06/10/2015 02:58 PM, Hass, Douglas A. wrote:
That is much stronger and more likely to succeed then your last
(admittedly shorthand) argument that blocking a delivery method is not
the
That had to have made a TON of noise!
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
wasnt this pretty much how the original escape from alcatraz movie went
down?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Oh definitely, I really love Skydog and am dreading the day it turns off (no
thanks to Comcast for killing it).
I’ll email you.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:07 PM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] SkyDog alternative
Hi folks,
For those
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
On Jun 10, 2015 9:10 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote:
Yes. They can be a bit problematic, but you get one working and set its
bias correctly and it works for the most part.
I use them in outdoor cabinets and at the office etc.
*From:* Af
Yes. They can be a bit problematic, but you get one working and set its bias
correctly and it works for the most part.
I use them in outdoor cabinets and at the office etc.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:44 AM
To: Animal Farm
impressive
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
wrote:
We have had one of our engineers from Israel traveling the U.S. for the
past few weeks assisting with the volume of new customer trials. He has
Have a nice day!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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