Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
According to police it was a grenade buried under sidewalk... On Mar 8, 2016 9:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > My half sisters brother is one of those lunatics, he's a PETA member if > that tells you anything, we know for sure he possesses at least one actual >

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread George Skorup
I believe the max spec for the Lumina HP is about 55 watts. Slightly more than an AF24 at 50 watts (@ 50V). Maybe 56V would bring the current down a little. Forrest did say 1A max per port, which would be right on the edge for the AF24. So there has to be a little wiggle room in there.

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The standard packetflux daisy chain capability is a must. Let us add existing joints to the assembly brother. And also that blank mount for the guts of the r port existing, and the packetflux screwdiverz, and popcorn, and a pony that poops out unicorns On Mar 8, 2016 5:44 PM, "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Tell me too On Mar 8, 2016 7:35 PM, "Matt" wrote: > Do your gigabit injectors work with SAF Lumina? > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> Yep, pretty much anything you mentioned. Anything which

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
My half sisters brother is one of those lunatics, he's a PETA member if that tells you anything, we know for sure he possesses at least one actual claymore, needless to say, he's batshit crazy, he will be in the newspapers someday, hopefully it's due to something like this where he's died and his

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Forest, Rack mount is preferable in my mind since we use a rack at just about every site. Even the most remote sites get a box with a rack inside. That said a half size / half price unit would be preferable at our smaller sites over a din unit. We would use the larger units at main sites and

Re: [AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

2016-03-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/8/16 5:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Get away from ethernet, all the carriers are. And go to... token ring? ATM? ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
you mean copper ethernet, or ethernet in general? because, uhm, every serious radio these days is pure-ethernet and SFP based. standard deployment nowadays is a 1310nm LX SFP to the radio. Soon to be 10GbE SFP+ with new radios in a year or two. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Chuck Hogg

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-08 Thread Sean Heskett
Awesome Matt! Glad to hear y'all are making progress :) -Sean On Monday, March 7, 2016, Matt Mangriotis < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Aaron hasn’t jumped on this one yet… so let me. > > > > We’ll have a new open beta build of 14.1.2 out late this week (Friday). > We have high

Re: [AFMUG] OpenFlow and SDN

2016-03-08 Thread Trey Scarborough
I have tested it in a lab environment and used several different controllers. I agree it seems to be great for a data center and possible as a Metro switching environment. I have been trying it agains other carrier mpls/mef hardware. It really can't match the switching times and resiliency

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Matt
Do your gigabit injectors work with SAF Lumina? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Yep, pretty much anything you mentioned. Anything which will work with a > passive power injector. Notable exceptions: Cambium 320/430 radios >

Re: [AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

2016-03-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
Sorry, it's called the Edge Point https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgepoint/ Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Get away from ethernet, all the carriers are. The new UBNT tower box is > pretty cool. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

2016-03-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
Get away from ethernet, all the carriers are. The new UBNT tower box is pretty cool. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Jeremy wrote: > Like the Netonix Mini? > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > >> So all this

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
of course but what can I do Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Do they know that is the least interesting thing to happen to you this > week? > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016, 6:37 PM Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

2016-03-08 Thread Jeremy
Like the Netonix Mini? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > So all this talk of power injectors lately brought this idea to mind.. > > > > What about a tower mounted box, that could be powered by 48V 60W POE+ > > It would provide 4 switchable outputs of

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
Do they know that is the least interesting thing to happen to you this week? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016, 6:37 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Ha. Tv folks interviewed me > On Mar 8, 2016 5:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > >> On Mar 8, 2016 5:01 PM,

[AFMUG] Here's an idea... a POE+ powered power injector..

2016-03-08 Thread Peter Kranz
So all this talk of power injectors lately brought this idea to mind.. What about a tower mounted box, that could be powered by 48V 60W POE+ It would provide 4 switchable outputs of 24V Cambium or UBNT output. Allowing you to overload a single ethernet cable up your tower with 4 access

Re: [AFMUG] Spacing 450 - 320 -320

2016-03-08 Thread Sean Heskett
cambium has a 320 & 450 co-location guide. I haven't read it because we don't use 320 so i'm guessing here...I'd put the 320s in 7mhz channels squished together at one end of the 30Mhz you have available and then put the 450 in a 7Mhz channel as far to the other end of the 30Mhz you have. That

Re: [AFMUG] OpenFlow and SDN

2016-03-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I've been reading an O'Reilly book, "MPLS in an SDN era." I believe it was in there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OpenFlow and SDN

2016-03-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I’m hearing the opposite, great in the core, not as necessary on fringes. I’ve got friends migrating core data center switches and routers to OpenFlow. So the hardware concentrates on the actual packet flows only (Data layer) and let’s a controller define the complicated stuff across multiple

Re: [AFMUG] OpenFlow and SDN

2016-03-08 Thread Mike Hammett
>From what I've read it is better for places where you need to manage flows and >not so much in the core, mainly due to whatever is hardware accelerated. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

[AFMUG] Spacing 450 - 320 -320

2016-03-08 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Hello I need to stuff 2x 320AP's and 1x 450AP into 30mhz. Is 1mhz going to be enough between the AP's? Do they need any? Thanks Rhys

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha. Tv folks interviewed me On Mar 8, 2016 5:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > On Mar 8, 2016 5:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > >> Guy kneeling down is tech >> On Mar 8, 2016 4:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >> wrote: >>

[AFMUG] OpenFlow and SDN

2016-03-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Anyone implemented OpenFlow in anything? What are the advantages to an ISP? I just bought a switch with OpenFlow capabilities to play with. Not sure what I'm doing, lol!

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I love these people who think their toys don’t use the Internet while they’re sleeping. Have they not seen “Toy Story” or “Night at the Museum”? Your toys all come alive and use the Internet while you’re sleeping. And from what I’ve seen, you really really want Xbox updates to happen while

Re: [AFMUG] 450 14.1.2 build 4

2016-03-08 Thread Craig Schmaderer
30mhz channels hellz yeah Craig schmaderer Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:06 PM -0800, "Matt Mangriotis" > wrote: Aaron hasn't jumped on this one yet... so let me. We'll have a new open beta

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Guy kneeling down is tech On Mar 8, 2016 4:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Two bomb squad techs approached house and checked it out...they had some > tools and did something to device but I couldn't make it out. They went > back to car down the street. > On Mar 8,

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Two bomb squad techs approached house and checked it out...they had some tools and did something to device but I couldn't make it out. They went back to car down the street. On Mar 8, 2016 4:32 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Made me think of the TV show Shameless. Carl burying

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread George Skorup
What we have at most sites is a SiteMonitor Base and an injector or two of some time. A couple old 4 ports, an 8 port, or a 4 port + SyncInjector, etc. So a "couple" expansion modules is probably enough in most cases. A few newer sites have the 5ch PDUs + 2 relay / 3 switch. One site has the

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Made me think of the TV show Shameless. Carl burying surplus land mines in the front yard... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 4:26 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time a young crazy guys lived there about 10 years ago but family kicked him outnow it an

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
a young crazy guys lived there about 10 years ago but family kicked him outnow it an elderly lady and nursethey have been gone for a month while house is re-done Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I bet it's one of those novelty paperweight grenades or one that's been drilled open on the bottom and emptied... Lots of ex-military guys have them. http://www.amazon.com/Military-Surplus-Dummy-Hand-grenade/dp/B000UVQEUO On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
i dont twitter or facebook...this list is it, Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > *gets the popcorn* > > Can you download periscope and point your phone at it? > > *slurps sugary drink* > > On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
*gets the popcorn* Can you download periscope and point your phone at it? *slurps sugary drink* On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > So a home three houses away from ours is under total re-modeling and today > the workers found a grenade!! Street

[AFMUG] Grenade time

2016-03-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
So a home three houses away from ours is under total re-modeling and today the workers found a grenade!! Street closed ...the neighbors right next to it evacuated as we wait for bomb squad...hope no one gets hurt. This is usually a quiet neighborhood except for dummy dogs... Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/8/16 14:18, Joe Novak wrote: is this a bad time to mention the PC Master Race? Send this to the customer the next time they complain.

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Joe Novak
at least when you turn it off it's off. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > https://www.reddit.com/r/Gaben/ > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > >> is this a bad time to mention the PC Master Race? >> >> >> :) >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gaben/ On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > is this a bad time to mention the PC Master Race? > > > :) > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> Doesn't include patch sizes. Halo 5 is

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Adam Moffett
Couldn't Steam running in the background on a PC have the same effect? On 3/8/2016 5:18 PM, Joe Novak wrote: is this a bad time to mention the PC Master Race? :) On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Only if you complain to your ISP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 8, 2016 5:18 PM, "Joe Novak" wrote: > is this a bad time to mention the PC Master Race? > > > :) > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Joe Novak
is this a bad time to mention the PC Master Race? :) On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Doesn't include patch sizes. Halo 5 is larger than MCC. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-08 Thread Rory Conaway
We are with AC2. Unfortunately I’m on vacation so I’m briefly checking on it. I changed everything to 10MHz until I can deal with it this weekend. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Tim Reichhart
I have been trying to find an cheap m2m for me to login into my network to allow me to power cycle the bh or router. Tim -Original Message- From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Date: 03/08/16 04:16 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The great thing about those ventilated shallow rack shelves is that you can aggressively ziptie stuff down onto them, to keep it in place even when cables are pushed/pulled/wiggled, connected and disconnected. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:59 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Mike - YES, in fact they only support IPv4 for "fallback" on LTE On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Does Ting do IPv6? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
RoadWarrior VPN Design back to a VPN concentrator. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I'm really hoping to avoid USB if at all possible. The wholly integrated > HSPA+/LTE modems that have a 100BaseTX ethernet interface are quite > expensive, like the

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Does Ting do IPv6? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 3:06:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I'm really hoping to avoid USB if at all possible. The wholly integrated HSPA+/LTE modems that have a 100BaseTX ethernet interface are quite expensive, like the basic Opengear model that is $380. USB could work with a raspberry pi2 if absolutely necessary. One of the things I can predict, the

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yep, pretty much anything you mentioned. Anything which will work with a passive power injector. Notable exceptions: Cambium 320/430 radios (oddly pinned power not compatible with a true gigabit radio), and other radios which try to do everything across the eight pairs and end up breaking

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I could buy them from amazon, bundle them, and sell them to you with a nice markup for me ;) On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:59 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > ha, thats funny, because those two exact products is what we are using > where we dont have DIN, > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
unless theres exposed components that could easily be damaged, would there need to be a cover? These are intended to be in an an enclosure? If you could get these pressed in such a way that the housin would hold the APC blanks for the WB cards, I think at this point we all have 2.3 billion of

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Oh, I don't think I finished replying to this one... if it's a dup, just ignore this reply or the other one... My intent is to build this with a standalone web interface and a SNMP MIB which is designed for this device. This should enable a bit easier management. I may consider adding an

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Matt
Leave them open. If it really bothers someone there is wide black tape. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I'm thinking about this as an option. The question then becomes what to > do with the empty holes? > > > > On Tue, Mar 8,

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Paul McCall
Eric, What USB device would you be looking to use with Ting? It looks very interesting. And, wondering about performance (RX/TX) on the LTE device… on that could run an external antenna to get it outside the walls of a building would be helpful also Paul, PDMNet From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ha, thats funny, because those two exact products is what we are using where we dont have DIN, On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > How about one of these: > http://www.amazon.com/Raxxess-RAX-Unitray-Universal-Rack/dp/B0007OGTGS > >

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
That is 100% correct. BTW, most of the 'hobbyist' modules such as those which connect to a raspberry pi are neither certified or approved. You can usually get away with it with a sim swap but some carriers are really fussy (aka verizon). But I'm really interested in finding out what you

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown
1)You get what you pay for, and part of what you are paying for is customer service. See if UBNT will jump on here and interact with a customer like Forest does. 2)Never hurts to buy USA made equipment. 3)Commodity stuff that arrives on a container will NEVER be the same quality as

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
It's hard for me to compete with the ubnt and netonix products, mainly because of volume differences. There are also some key design and customer RMA philosophy differences which increase costs - I really don't feel like it's right to cut corners which significantly decrease reliability, and

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread George Skorup
Popcorn! On 3/8/2016 2:46 PM, Jeremy wrote: A blank cover plate? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: I'm thinking about this as an option. The question then becomes what to do with the empty

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Doesn't include patch sizes. Halo 5 is larger than MCC. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 8, 2016 3:39 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > He most likely installed a game. XboxLive gold comes with free games >

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Joshua Stump
Well not to mention a lot more folks are buying games digitally now. New Tom Clancy game came out yesterday that was around 32gig… We’ve definitely had a good amount of users complaining about slowness not realizing their xbox one was downloading in the background despite them thinking it

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Which involves bending, cutting, providing a mounting method, and so on. It's amazing how much a little piece of metal will cost. But yeah, that's what I'm thinking if I go down that path. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jeremy wrote: > A blank cover plate? > > On

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Jeremy
A blank cover plate? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I'm thinking about this as an option. The question then becomes what to > do with the empty holes? > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Roland Houin

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Jeremy
He most likely installed a game. XboxLive gold comes with free games monthly. You pick them and then they download in the background. Here is the list of game sizes: https://www.finder.com/xbox-one-install-sizes On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Jeremy wrote: > +1 on

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm thinking about this as an option. The question then becomes what to do with the empty holes? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Roland Houin wrote: > how about selling unit with 1 module set & allow us to expand to full > capacity. > that way I can standardize even small

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Jeremy
+1 on this being a public list. As far as XBoxOne goes, I have one. The updates are HUGE. The game installs are HUGE. I turned off instant on, but then I have to wait for an update to install EVERY TIME that I play the console. It is my understanding that it will download updates as they

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
How about one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Raxxess-RAX-Unitray-Universal-Rack/dp/B0007OGTGS And a roll of this: http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-Products-Industrial-Sticky-Back-positioning/dp/B004E2IADO On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Peter Kranz
18 ports sounds reasonable to me, it will fit the needs to most any site. I could see myself buying 2 units and stacking them such that 50% of my APs were connected to unit #1 and 50% connected to unit #2. On pricing, if you don’t require sync, this unit would somewhat compete with the UBNT

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Paul McCall
+1 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Roland Houin Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 3:16 PM To: afmug Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync how about selling unit with 1 module set & allow us to expand to full capacity. that way I

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread George Skorup
I could go either way. 4x4 for 16 or 6x3 for 18. More ports is always cool. I guess whatever makes the most sense to you would be fine with me. This really comes down to being able to power just about anything imaginable... except for Trango's crazy licensed POE scheme, power consumption and

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Ty Featherling
Amen to that. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I really wish this list *wasn't* publicly searchable. There's a lot of > things we talk about here that I wish those outside of our "circles" > didn't know about, or weren't privy too. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Roland Houin
how about selling unit with 1 module set & allow us to expand to full capacity. that way I can standardize even small sites, which can grow.. Roland > Well, it looks like it might actually be finally happening. We are about 98% sure we have a rackmount enclosure manufacturer which we can work

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Forrest can correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like certification is necessary if you take a 'raw' module from Sierra Wireless or a competitor and integrate it into your product and are talking to it by AT commands. If you buy a wholly integrated radio product such as an HSPA+/LTE modem that

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Jason McKemie
Ting is pretty tasty: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61iA0yqvJdL._SX425_.jpg On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Ting's app / website is awesome. You can have it send alerts once > voice/sms/data gets to certain levels, and even shut each service

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ah-hah. Carry on then good sir, and I shall go back to my home under yon bridge :) On Mar 8, 2016 2:06 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Actually, the industry which is driving this for us isn't the WISP > industry. Instead, it's the off-grid solar people

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I can tell you if you had a 1U or 2U blank that we could pull the guts from our existing 4 port syncinjectors, and a single blank for the guts of a sitemnitor, and sold the existing 4 port injectors with a spare sticker, id be pig in shit happy. If you had that, Id still pay the current cost of

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Actually, the industry which is driving this for us isn't the WISP industry. Instead, it's the off-grid solar people who want their cell phone to beep when their solar system is having issues On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Unless you can beat

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Pre-certified does not mean permitted on a network. If you buy the sierra gateway solutions which is an all-in-one box, this is considered a product, and the hoops have been jumped through by sierra wireless. On the other hand the 'modules' generally are pre-certified, but are not considered a

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I just realized I forgot to add Ting appears to be a Sprint and/or T-mobile MVNO. This means that any device needs to be certified by Sprint and/or T-mobile for their network. Which means the hoops might still exist for Ting devices... On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Forrest Christian

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Are you graphing the stations / APs in AirControl2 or similar? This can help diagnose the problem. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > CCQ% is 95-98%.But it doesn’t mean it’s not an interference issue. > I’ve seen Mikrotik do serious damage to

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Unless you can beat the price of doing it with a r-pi w/ usb 3g/4g modem or mikrotik routerboard with 3g/4g usb, then I wouldn't even worry about it. The feature set and price would have to be truly impressive for me to consider it over those 2 other solutions. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:50 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If you were to take a module from Sierra Wireless, aren't those pretty much all pre-certified? On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I still want everyone else's answer to this... but I'll add my $0.02: (I > guess what I'm saying is I

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I still want everyone else's answer to this... but I'll add my $0.02: (I guess what I'm saying is I don't want to hijack this threadsince I'm interested in everyone's answers.) I've been looking at adding a product to the PacketFlux line which uses a cellular modem to manage it. The hold up

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-08 Thread Rory Conaway
CCQ% is 95-98%.But it doesn’t mean it’s not an interference issue. I’ve seen Mikrotik do serious damage to Ubiquiti. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ting's app / website is awesome. You can have it send alerts once voice/sms/data gets to certain levels, and even shut each service off per number as it gets to a certain point to prevent the bill from getting too high. Pretty sure you can also remotely enable/disable services on the fly. I had a

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
I really wish this list *wasn't* publicly searchable. There's a lot of things we talk about here that I wish those outside of our "circles" didn't know about, or weren't privy too. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > i cannot seem to find any

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't think you'll find anything like that, but I could be wrong. I don't think updates come at any particular time of the day, for games nor the console. I've seen updates happen in the middle of me playing during an evening and then get them while I was at work during the day. Josh Luthman

[AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync

2016-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Well, it looks like it might actually be finally happening. We are about 98% sure we have a rackmount enclosure manufacturer which we can work with. Domestic. Product looks decent. Price is right. Which means it's time to nail down a few details here, such as number of ports, so I can get some

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Or a clean list of microsoft xboxone updates, their release dates, and the sizes. that would be good, I havent found anything on the system updates, but Ive found a few forum based game lists, would prefer something a little more formal On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i cannot seem to find any time window referenced from microsoft other than night time, I assume its randomized, but would like to see that concrete. anybody have a link to that? not this one though https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/system-update-overview The following is enough

[AFMUG] Anyone using Ting SIM cards for OOB management?

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
For example with HSPA+/LTE modems, to have proper OOB into the routers at a crucial POP. $6/mo per active SIM card is pretty cheap for M2M data SIMs, though the $/MB rate is not the best. But for the application I have in mind it would be console SSH traffic, which is super low bandwidth.

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
not just system updates, a single game like fallout 4 can be a 25 to 30GB download. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > so we installed a customer yesterday. hes complaining its not possible > that he used 20gb overnight since he was

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Does it update when "off"? Yes. That's instant on mode. 20 GB is one patch for one game. They've rewritten the entire OS since launch, I believe that was around November 2015 when they fully released it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

[AFMUG] xbox one updates

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
so we installed a customer yesterday. hes complaining its not possible that he used 20gb overnight since he was asleep the tech said his xbox one wanted to update and he stopped it, hes saying he did update it and it was only a 500mb update he had a consistent 12mb download from around 1130pm to

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-08 Thread Ty Featherling
So you are looking for the language towards the complaintant, not the alleged offender. Got it. Just making sure. I am more than willing to share the language on our AUP. It was given to me by someone on this list anyway. I don't have any language either in the other direction. -Ty -Ty On

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yes, substantial interference will cause this, even on 5GHz. It could be noise at the AP, but only if all stations having high CCQs. If not, the CPEs are seeing another signal that either has very high signal or is on a near or overlapping frequency. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:53 PM, George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

2016-03-08 Thread George Skorup
Rory, I think you're seeing somewhat normal operation from the UBNT radios. The AP heard nothing from that CPE in a while so it tore down the session. CPE still thinks it's registered. AP says nope. Could be interference. We saw this all the time in the 2.4 band w/ UBNT radios. On 3/8/2016

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

2016-03-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I've only ordered in bulk from ecablemart - if you're buying something like twenty of each item they're 15% cheaper than fiberstore. their blue armored 9/125 patch cables are a real life saver in busy, not very well organized colocation environments where somebody might snag or damage your

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

2016-03-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
yes, just no dedicated dmca and mitigation policy set yet, we are getting more and more of them On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: > Steve do you have an AUP posted already? > > -Ty > > > > -Ty > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:21 AM, That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti and VLAN Tags

2016-03-08 Thread Matt Hardy
If they're set up as simple bridges (with WDS enabled), they should pass all Ethernet traffic (including any VLAN tags) transparently... On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Matt wrote: > Couple years back setup several Ubiquiti NSM5's to bridge several > buildings to

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