Re: [AFMUG] Displaying backhaul traffic on a map live

2016-03-10 Thread George Skorup
I'm using Network Weathermap integrated w/ Cacti. Makes it easy to visualize traffic flow on the network. Could be prettier, but it works. On 3/10/2016 11:51 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Network weather map. It is a PITA to configure but the results are nice: http://weathermap.sw.alaska.edu/ (hove

Re: [AFMUG] Displaying backhaul traffic on a map live

2016-03-10 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Network weather map. It is a PITA to configure but the results are nice: http://weathermap.sw.alaska.edu/ (hover over links for more info) I had something like this on a large screen in a former life/company. I added a lower frame that auto refresh through important graphs. ryan On 3/10/16 4

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
There is something similar to that built into the mount. Cannot really see it in the photo. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Product leak Instead of a turnbuckle, which you can't turn when tight to the pole, how about a 10" sect

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
24 inches but it can go to any length. There is a half turnbuckle built into it. You hook the chain as tight as you can then wrench tighten the chain the rest of the way. From: Jerry Head Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Product leak Really nice pro

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Most tower steel is a clone of either Rohn or Andrew. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff Funny they use a drawing that they must have gotten from Andrews because it has the same error... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: T

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do you know this, or are you speculating? My information was that Connect-It fabricated all their stuff in Florida including the galvanizing. That’s one reason I liked buying from them. That and their workmanship (welding and galvanizing) seemed better than Andrew/Commscope. Sitepro1/Valmont

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought maybe it was an error, but I looked back I my records and I bought 10 of them custom with longer pipes back in 2011 for $101 and my notes show the price of the standard one being around $80, so it looks real. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:25 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Jerry Head
It would fit on my Rohn 25s:-);-) On 3/10/2016 6:33 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Whats the purpose of that antenna? Its not going to fit on a rohn 25g tower and alot of grainlegs probably couldnt handle it either. With that thing so big you should be paying cell-co rental prices! On Thu, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Instead of a turnbuckle, which you can't turn when tight to the pole, how about a 10" section of two parallel threaded rods used to pull the chain snug? On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Jerry Head wrote: > Really nice product! > How long is it? > What would really be sweet is if there were some

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Jerry Head
Really nice product! How long is it? What would really be sweet is if there were some way to turnbuckle or snap clamp those chains down tight then no lag screw would be needed. On 3/10/2016 6:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Something I am working on. This will fit on a 60 inch diameter pole/monopo

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Funny they use a drawing that they must have gotten from Andrews because it has the same error... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff $78 (plus shipping) here: http://ciwireless1-px.rtrk.com/product/tower-antenna-stan

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, that makes a huge difference. On a mount like that my galvanizing would cost me close to $10 alone. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff Chinese steel. Otherwise known as zinc-plated lead. bp On 3/10/2016 6

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Quality things can be had from China, but they cost just as much as a quality thing made elsewhere... Example being the 2', 3' and 4' microwave antennas from Shenglu. Not much price difference to Radiowaves. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Chinese steel. Otherwise known as

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Bill Prince
Chinese steel. Otherwise known as zinc-plated lead. bp On 3/10/2016 6:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Hmmm, that is very low. Like lower than wholesale low. I wonder how they do it for that... *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:48 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Hmmm, that is very low. Like lower than wholesale low. I wonder how they do it for that... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff $78 (plus shipping) here: http://ciwireless1-px.rtrk.com/product/tower-antenna-standoff/

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
:) On Mar 10, 2016 8:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Stay thirsty my friends... ajuaaa > On Mar 10, 2016 6:16 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> Very few craft beers I like... my all time favorite is Hauri beer from >> Santa Cruz Bolivia.. >> Suck ups... >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Ja

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Don't always think tower, that thing could be very useful mounted on a 5'x5' footprint non penetrating roof mount with 6' height mast, 3" OD pipe, near a roof edge overlooking an area. Depends entirely on building location/height/terrain and potential customers. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ku

Re: [AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
We'll check the SI ports after a complete power cycle. We tested 3/6 of the APs and they're not powering up. I figured the APs VR smoked and shorted the SI power portion of its port. Thanks, `S --- Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. On Mar 10, 2016, at 14:29, Forrest Christian (List Account) mailt

Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

2016-03-10 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Well, we powered several 450 APs this morning off 48v for about 3 hours :) Thanks, `S --- Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. On Mar 10, 2016, at 16:36, George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote: At one time, there was a roadmap slide that stated 48V support for the 450 AP. Long, long before t

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I used to buy tons of stuff from Hutton...and Electrocomm as well... On Mar 10, 2016 6:07 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 3/10/16 16:59, Lewis Bergman wrote: > >> You have to watch Tessco. They are in Maryland so if you aren't on the >> east coast shipping gets high. There said they are opening

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Cheaper than paying rent for three sectors. I've been saying for a while that anything under Rohn 55 or 65 is too small to even consider for a tower deployment. They're fine for micro-POPs and customers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Very few craft beers I like... my all time favorite is Hauri beer from Santa Cruz Bolivia.. Suck ups... On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I am at DQ with three of my thirteen grandkids having lunch I told > them you guys think I looked like that guy and they said he is

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Baird
... or beeradvocate.com. > On Mar 10, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > > Ratebeer.com Chuck. > >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> So with that many variations, it would seem to me there would be a whole >> world of folks that taste beers and make pithy comments

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/10/16 16:59, Lewis Bergman wrote: You have to watch Tessco. They are in Maryland so if you aren't on the east coast shipping gets high. There said they are opening a San Antonio warehouse but o don't know if they are open. Talley and Hutton have more locations. Tessco has two distribution

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
You have to watch Tessco. They are in Maryland so if you aren't on the east coast shipping gets high. There said they are opening a San Antonio warehouse but o don't know if they are open. Talley and Hutton have more locations. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 6:53 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Hmm, Tessco has An

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
Ratebeer.com Chuck. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > So with that many variations, it would seem to me there would be a whole > world of folks that taste beers and make pithy comments like the wine snobs? > > *From:* Bruce Robertson > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:33

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hmm, Tessco has Andrew at $138, house brand at $118, not sure why so expensive. Of course the shipping adds a lot unless you buy a bunch at once shipped freight on a pallet. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff Yo

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
$78 (plus shipping) here: http://ciwireless1-px.rtrk.com/product/tower-antenna-standoff/ From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff i thought i was paying somewhere in the $150 range for it On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
You guys kill me. Chuck makes a great mount for less money. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 6:31 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > i thought i was paying somewhere in the $150 range for it > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> What do you pay for an Andrew/Comscope S200? >> >> *From:* K

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I waive my consultant fee cause you are kool kat On Mar 10, 2016 5:35 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Good idea. Thanks. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:28 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Product leak > > > I would drill hole in center of each back fo

Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

2016-03-10 Thread George Skorup
At one time, there was a roadmap slide that stated 48V support for the 450 AP. Long, long before the 450i was ever mentioned. So I wonder if the hardware supports 22-56V, but they tell us that it's just the 29.5 standard. Matt, Aaron, someone.. what's the deal? If the regular 450 AP will inde

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Good idea. Thanks. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:28 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Product leak I would drill hole in center of each back for lag screw. Nice On Mar 10, 2016 5:17 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Something I am working on. This will fit on a

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Whats the purpose of that antenna? Its not going to fit on a rohn 25g tower and alot of grainlegs probably couldnt handle it either. With that thing so big you should be paying cell-co rental prices! On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > for epmp.. > > Sent from Outlook Mobile

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
i thought i was paying somewhere in the $150 range for it On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > What do you pay for an Andrew/Comscope S200? > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:25 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff > > Ho

Re: [AFMUG] Product leak

2016-03-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I would drill hole in center of each back for lag screw. Nice On Mar 10, 2016 5:17 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Something I am working on. > This will fit on a 60 inch diameter pole/monopole (or larger) if you > want. > It will also fit a 10 inch pole. > > The pipe is 24 inches long 3.4” dia. >

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
What do you pay for an Andrew/Comscope S200? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff How much standoff do you need? I have used Andrew S200 like George says (2 ft standoff) or S300 (3 ft), actually they go up to 6 ft sta

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread George Skorup
We have a couple Cyclone 5750-360's and PMP450 w/ KP 5GHz omni's on the 2' Andrew side-arms. The Larsen antenna on the Cyclone is a very good, smooth pattern. We do see maybe a couple dB discrepancy when SMs are on the opposite side, but they've been fine for the most part. So I think you'll be

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I use these and the are very solid. Wouldn't mount them on the side of Rohn 25G though. Even though i do have one on the side of a Rohn 25G, would never do that again. https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=440562&eventGroup=4&eventPage=1 On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

2016-03-10 Thread Mathew Howard
We had problems with the port flapping on one of our B5c's when it was running off of a Packetflux injector (with no surge suppressor)... after replacing everything other than the radio itself, I ended up hooking it up to a GigE-POE-SS instead and it's been working fine ever since. On Thu, Mar 10,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jeremy
You just described me to a T. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > So with that many variations, it would seem to me there would be a whole > world of folks that taste beers and make pithy comments like the wine snobs? > > *From:* Bruce Robertson > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10,

Re: [AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Darn autocorrect.. not sure how it got label from radio. On Mar 10, 2016 3:28 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Ummm. .. probably not. > > The ports probably shut down in response to the overcurrent caused by the > overvoltage. > > You'll just need to remove

Re: [AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Ummm. .. probably not. The ports probably shut down in response to the overcurrent caused by the overvoltage. You'll just need to remove power completely from the injector and re power it. This means both the power and the site monitor port. Just curious, are you sure those aps are dead? I

Re: [AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Yeah, it was from the “FSK power problem?” thread earlier this morning.. I changed out a 24V power supply with a 48v rectifier. I thought because the SyncInjectors accepts up to 56V that it would step the voltage down to 24V, didn’t realize they were just passive in/out same voltage. Anyhow, z

Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is this the same problem some people are saying is a Trango buffer problem, but somehow only happens with ePMP? -Original Message- From: Robert Haas Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP We have the same issue, just at

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jay Weekley
Didn't think about that. Perhaps they can find a good bar. Cameron Crum wrote: It would probably have to be offsite as the hotel/venue controls what is served inside. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Jay Weekley mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: I think a vendor or vendors need

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
It would probably have to be offsite as the hotel/venue controls what is served inside. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I think a vendor or vendors needs to have an event where they serve beer > from local breweries. > > Cameron Crum wrote: > >> You forgot the hops which is

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jay Weekley
I think a vendor or vendors needs to have an event where they serve beer from local breweries. Cameron Crum wrote: You forgot the hops which is where beer gets most of its flavor. Different hops have different bitterness measured in IBU. Throw in some really high IBU hops and you get a more "b

Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP

2016-03-10 Thread Sovereen, David A
Is this AP connected to a 100Mbps port while your others are connected to a 1000Mbps port? Dave > On Mar 10, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > > We have the same issue, just at one site. Air test shows 75x20, a speedtest > plugged into the radio shows 15x10. Plugged directly into the sa

Re: [AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Shorted things out I bet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 10, 2016 4:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Yikes... how did you manage that? > On Mar 10, 2016 2:30 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" > wrote: > >> 96.3% of customers restored!

Re: [AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yikes... how did you manage that? On Mar 10, 2016 2:30 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" wrote: > 96.3% of customers restored! (: > > > > Incidentally, when the FSK APs received 48v and fried, they also fried > their corresponding SyncInjector port. :/ >

[AFMUG] I fried 6 APs and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

2016-03-10 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
96.3% of customers restored! (: Incidentally, when the FSK APs received 48v and fried, they also fried their corresponding SyncInjector port. :/

Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP

2016-03-10 Thread Robert Haas
We have the same issue, just at one site. Air test shows 75x20, a speedtest plugged into the radio shows 15x10. Plugged directly into the same port on the router (RB2011uais-rm) maxes the backhaul link (Rocket M5 @ 20Mhz). Tried different AP radio's, different firmwares, tried a switch between

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Gino Villarini
for epmp.. Sent from Outlook Mobile On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:03 PM -0800, "Mike Hammett" wrote: Mimosa A5-360 would. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Gino Villarini" To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Mimosa A5-360 would . - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:01:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Gino Villarini
4 90deg dual pol sectors in one omni enclosure Sent from Outlook Mobile On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: You want 3 omnis in one radome? :P On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > can someone make something similar in omni? > > On Th

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Distributors don’t normally stock any of my tower mounts. Almost all tower mounts drop ship from my shop. (No sense in anyone paying the freight companies twice.) Note, the vertical pipe is not included. You supply the pipe. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:46 PM To

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Darren Shea
The German Beer Purity Law calls for 4 ingredients in beer: Malted barley, yeast, hops, and water. Different barleys impart different flavors (for instance, stouts are often made with roasted barley), different yeast strains can affect the flavor, and the hops have a huge effect on the flavor, b

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jay Weekley
Yeah baby! Josh Baird wrote: Me! On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jay Weekley mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: Any beer lovers going to the conference next week? Josh Reynolds wrote: I love Russian Imperial Stouts... On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Camer

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
Do you know of any distributors who stock these? On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > This one will do 24 inches: > http://www.mccowntech.com/side-arm-tower-mount/ > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:29 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
JP's makes a white stout, I'm not big into stouts, but I like it: http://www.jpbrewery.com/casper.html On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > What about stout blondes? Or is "blonde" also a type of beer? > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, March 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Bruce Robertson
10-15, not 150-15... the count is certainly not going down! :-) On 03/10/2016 12:36 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: Oh, absolutely! Especially recently, with all the microbrews. Reno alone has probably 150-15 microbreweries. I haven't counted in awhile. On 03/10/2016 12:35 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
I am kinda fond of stout blonds... at least back in the day... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World Blondes are a style, but I like where you are going with this. On Thu, Mar 10

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
Blondes are a style, but I like where you are going with this. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > What about stout blondes? Or is "blonde" also a type of beer? > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:32 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subj

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
What about stout blondes? Or is "blonde" also a type of beer? -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World IPAs are "trendy", hoppy, and bitter. I'm not a fan. M

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
I've used elderflower in a beer. It came out nice...not sure about elderberries though. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Hmmm, am I detecting a hint of elderberries and French soldier farts. > > *From:* Bruce Robertson > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:36 PM > *To:* a

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
You forgot the hops which is where beer gets most of its flavor. Different hops have different bitterness measured in IBU. Throw in some really high IBU hops and you get a more "bitter" beer although not bitter like you might think. Barleys are also roasted at different levels measured in lavibonds

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Hmmm, am I detecting a hint of elderberries and French soldier farts. From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World Oh, absolutely! Especially recently, with all the microbrews. Reno alon

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
You will always have diffraction effects. No way around it. Different spacing causes different effects. I would put it on the side of the tower that has the majority of the customers. For certain 2 wavelengths. At 10 wavelengths most of the worst effects are gone. So 20 inches for 5 GHz.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Bruce Robertson
Oh, absolutely! Especially recently, with all the microbrews. Reno alone has probably 150-15 microbreweries. I haven't counted in awhile. On 03/10/2016 12:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: So with that many variations, it would seem to me there would be a whole world of folks that taste beers an

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
So with that many variations, it would seem to me there would be a whole world of folks that taste beers and make pithy comments like the wine snobs? From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
Beer snobbery is a huge thing. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > So with that many variations, it would seem to me there would be a whole > world of folks that taste beers and make pithy comments like the wine snobs? > > *From:* Bruce Robertson > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10,

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought Chuck posted something awhile back about X many wavelengths, I suspect 2 ft should be fine at 5 GHz, but no matter what I assume you’ll lose some signal going through the tower. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omn

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Bruce Robertson
Lots of differences: The amount you roast the barley. (More roasting leads to darker beers, though not necessarily stronger.) The /amount/ of barley and other forms of sugar. (Ultimately, the barley is just a source of sugar for the yeasties.) The type of yeast you use. The type and amounts

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
Stouts are heavy and dark, IPAs are an ale (India Pale Ale) and tend to be fairly bitter, there are many different types of ales, so that one is a bit more difficult to describe taste wise On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > So as a mostly bone dry tee-totaler, what is the dif

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
This one will do 24 inches: http://www.mccowntech.com/side-arm-tower-mount/ From: Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff I'm not exactly sure how much standoff I need, I guess that is part of the question. On Thu, Mar 10,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
IPAs are "trendy", hoppy, and bitter. I'm not a fan. Many people like them though. I like stouts, blondes, and wheat beers. To each their own. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > So as a mostly bone dry tee-totaler, what is the difference between these > different types of bee

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm not exactly sure how much standoff I need, I guess that is part of the question. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > How much standoff do you need? I have used Andrew S200 like George says > (2 ft standoff) or S300 (3 ft), actually they go up to 6 ft standoff. Or > Connect

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
So as a mostly bone dry tee-totaler, what is the difference between these different types of beers? I hear IPAs are bitter. No clue as to how it would differ from a stout or ale or etc etc. I thought they were all barley, yeast and water? From: Darren Shea Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:2

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm more of a hard liquor drinker (I own two bars), but I've been getting more into sours the past year or so. This one was pretty kick ass: http://beerstreetjournal.com/schlafly-the-eleventh-labor-2/ On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > Probably not up your alley, but just t

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck Hogg
They made them in single polarity, but not dual. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > can someone make something similar in omni? > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote: > >> price? >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:01 PM, can...@believewir

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Darren Shea
I just tried that Temptress last week – it was almost a dessert beer, what with the mint and vanilla flavors. Surprisingly good – very drinkable and not overly sweet. Normally a more hoppy (IPA, Imperial IPA, etc.) beer fan, but a good stout is always worthwhile. n Darren From: Af [mail

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
How much standoff do you need? I have used Andrew S200 like George says (2 ft standoff) or S300 (3 ft), actually they go up to 6 ft standoff. Or Connect-It Wireless S2-S6. Can be used on vertical or sloping tower legs. Sitepro1 also has several solutions, some of which are YUGE! From: Jaso

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Baird
Me! On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Any beer lovers going to the conference next week? > > > Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> I love Russian Imperial Stouts... >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: >> >>> Probably not up your alley, but just tried the Big Bad

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jay Weekley
Any beer lovers going to the conference next week? Josh Reynolds wrote: I love Russian Imperial Stouts... On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Probably not up your alley, but just tried the Big Bad Baptist last weekend. Imperial Stout out of Utah with a 100 on RateBeer. It liv

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
You want 3 omnis in one radome? :P On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > can someone make something similar in omni? > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> >> price? >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:01 PM, can...@believewireless.net >> wrote: >>> >>> The

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Gino Villarini
can someone make something similar in omni? On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > price? > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:01 PM, can...@believewireless.net < > p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > >> The new AirPrism 3x30 sector is a MONSTER! I put it next to our water >> heater fo

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread can...@believewireless.net
$413 On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > price? > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:01 PM, can...@believewireless.net < > p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > >> The new AirPrism 3x30 sector is a MONSTER! I put it next to our water >> heater for reference. >> > >

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Gino Villarini
price? On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:01 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > The new AirPrism 3x30 sector is a MONSTER! I put it next to our water > heater for reference. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
Suck ups... On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I am at DQ with three of my thirteen grandkids having lunch I told > them you guys think I looked like that guy and they said he is older and > not as handsomeha. guess they Are getting dessert > On Mar 10, 2016 12:56

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

2016-03-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Hmmm, others have had success. Odd. -Original Message- From: Jerry Head Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors The GigE HV APC caused the port to flap on our B5 lites...did not even try them on our B5s after that. On 3/10

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am at DQ with three of my thirteen grandkids having lunch I told them you guys think I looked like that guy and they said he is older and not as handsomeha. guess they Are getting dessert On Mar 10, 2016 12:56 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I love Russian Imperial Stouts... > > On Thu, M

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Yes On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > That's three separate 30 degree dual polarity antennas inside one radome? > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:01 PM, can...@believewireless.net < > p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > >> The new AirPrism 3x30 sector is a MONSTER! I put it next

Re: [AFMUG] Who ordered the water heater?

2016-03-10 Thread Eric Kuhnke
That's three separate 30 degree dual polarity antennas inside one radome? On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:01 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > The new AirPrism 3x30 sector is a MONSTER! I put it next to our water > heater for reference. >

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz Omni standoff

2016-03-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I had looked at those, I just didn't know if it had enough standoff for use with an omni - from a shadowing perspective. On Thursday, March 10, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > Here is a good ‘un: > http://www.mccowntech.com/24-inch-pipe-standoff/ > > *From:* Jason McKemie > > *Sent:* Thursday, Marc

Re: [AFMUG] Surge Suppressors

2016-03-10 Thread Jerry Head
The GigE HV APC caused the port to flap on our B5 lites...did not even try them on our B5s after that. On 3/10/2016 12:22 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Which model of Chuck's APC line of surge suppressors would one use with Mimosa gear (B5 / B5 lite)?

Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP

2016-03-10 Thread Daniel Gerlach
Backhaul is PTP 800 2016-03-10 20:52 GMT+01:00 Mathew Howard : > Yeah... but what is the backhaul? specifically, is it an ePMP in TDD mode? > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Daniel Gerlach > wrote: >> >> at the Switch Port full Speed with speedtest.net..webgui speed test >> 120/50 and with spe

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
I love Russian Imperial Stouts... On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > Probably not up your alley, but just tried the Big Bad Baptist last weekend. > Imperial Stout out of Utah with a 100 on RateBeer. It lived up to the hype. > One of the best I've had in a while. The only ones

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Adios, Most Interesting Man In The World

2016-03-10 Thread Cameron Crum
Probably not up your alley, but just tried the Big Bad Baptist last weekend. Imperial Stout out of Utah with a 100 on RateBeer. It lived up to the hype. One of the best I've had in a while. The only ones that come close are Clown Shoes Brewery's Blaecorn Unidragon (Russian Imperial Stout), and Lak

Re: [AFMUG] Poor throughput on ePMP AP

2016-03-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... but what is the backhaul? specifically, is it an ePMP in TDD mode? On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Daniel Gerlach wrote: > at the Switch Port full Speed with speedtest.net..webgui speed test > 120/50 and with speedtest from CPE 17/10 with MCS 14-15 > > 2016-03-10 20:21 GMT+01:00 Josh Lu

Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

2016-03-10 Thread Vince West
Good point. The PMP 450i 900Mhz we installed calls for a 48v PoE (sped sheet states 48-59v, 802.3at compliant). The test PMP 450 2.4Ghz AP we have plugged in to a Netonix is using 24v (spec sheet states 22-32V) Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonvill

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