Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Mitch Koep
+1000 cpanel is great takes one customer to get the IP blacklisted then hours to delist On 04/28/2017 06:30 PM, George Skorup wrote: I'd say at least 4-5 hours of my time per week was dealing with email issues. We gave all of our customers 6 months, which turned into 8 months, to clean up,

Re: [AFMUG] RF propagation and Google Earth 3D?

2017-04-28 Thread Colin Stanners
I haven't seen any with great integration, but Radio Mobile will overlay data of its coverage on the ground in GE as an image. I've gotten quite fast in Radio Mobile so if you send me some details I can create quick example. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/28/17 16:30, George Skorup wrote: I'd say at least 4-5 hours of my time per week was dealing with email issues. We gave all of our customers 6 months, which turned into 8 months, to clean up, download, back up, etc. their shit and GTFO. There's Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook/Hotmail/Live/MSN and

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs? Chris, We still run our own email server.  I went with the hybrid approach.  I want a server in house that I had control over, but didn't want the head aches of do the maintenance on it.  Ended up going with linuxmagic several years ago and haven't

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP Declines IP Address several times a second

2017-04-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
Maybe helpful: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=95651 - Josh On Apr 28, 2017 6:15 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > This is one a Mikrotik CCR DHCP server, but I've never seen this. > > I have a client, I think an Apple router MAC 20:C9:D0:11:56:F0, that the >

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP Declines IP Address several times a second

2017-04-28 Thread Chris Wright
Sounds like it's in the process of bricking itself, no need to do that for them! If factory defaulting the Apple router doesn't fix it, stick a fork in it. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP Declines IP Address several times a second

2017-04-28 Thread George Skorup
Is it public or private IP space? On 4/28/2017 6:15 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: This is one a Mikrotik CCR DHCP server, but I've never seen this. I have a client, I think an Apple router MAC 20:C9:D0:11:56:F0, that the DHCP says "declines IP address x.x.x.x" several times a second. I have

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread George Skorup
I'd say at least 4-5 hours of my time per week was dealing with email issues. We gave all of our customers 6 months, which turned into 8 months, to clean up, download, back up, etc. their shit and GTFO. There's Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook/Hotmail/Live/MSN and whatever else. Plenty free options with

[AFMUG] DHCP Declines IP Address several times a second

2017-04-28 Thread Sterling Jacobson
This is one a Mikrotik CCR DHCP server, but I've never seen this. I have a client, I think an Apple router MAC 20:C9:D0:11:56:F0, that the DHCP says "declines IP address x.x.x.x" several times a second. I have it on static assignment. If I take it off static assignment, it just starts cycling

[AFMUG] Minden NV ISP looking for a buyer

2017-04-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
Hey, folks. There's a small mostly fiber-based but some wireless ISP in Minden NV that is looking for a buyer. Preferably local (could be difficult) but any interested parties are invited to reach out. I'm not sure how many customers, and know absolutely nothing about P and the balance

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Dave
+1 Tried it didnt like it for the same reason chuck didnt like em On 04/28/2017 03:58 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: +100 best decision On 04/28/2017 03:27 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: Thank you for the feedback. It is all Cat5e so I'll just add a patch panel there and re-wire them all. On Fri,

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
Pinkerton, that’s right. I use a local company called Pilkington. Got confused. I find it interesting that Carnegie’s story somewhat parallels Bill Gates 100 years later. Disruptive technology, moves to deploy nationwide, going public etc. Huge game changer for business in industry by

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Cameron Crum
Actually it wasn't Carnegie, it was his right hand man Henry Frick who was a ruthless SOB. Carnegie was largely hands off at the time and Frick was really running the show, although Carnegie did know what was happening. Frick made the decision to bring in the Pinkerton's to break the strike and it

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's a service offering with little upside and lots of time sink pitfalls. There are better things to focus on IMO. - Josh On Apr 28, 2017 4:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > This isn’t what you are looking for, but I abandoned that years ago and > never looked back. >

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
We do our own in-house still, have since the beginning of time. Currently, we have ~10,000 mailboxes. Normally they're $1 per mailbox with 1GB quota. For a 10GB quota, they gotta pay for our spam filter (another $1/mon), that way I know it’s not going to get full of just spam. I have two

Re: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Sterling Jacobson
This isn't what you are looking for, but I abandoned that years ago and never looked back. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs? In a world where anyone can get a free 15GB

[AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?

2017-04-28 Thread Chris Wright
In a world where anyone can get a free 15GB gmail address, what is an ISP to do? Hosted services are unyielding with their price structure and equally miserly with mailbox storage. Of course, they get to worry about a lot of things I enjoy not worrying about - Spam policies, storage I/O, AV, and

[AFMUG] Used items for sale.

2017-04-28 Thread Timothy Yent
If interested in any of the items below, please let me know. Make offer, no reasonable offer will be refused. Shipping to be paid by buyer. 23 Used UBNT M5 Rockets 28 Used UBNT M2 Rockets 3 Used 2.4Ghz EPMP 1000 GPS synced 71 Used UBNT M2 Nanos with dish 150 Used 14dB 900Mhz

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Joe Novak
Eventually there will be a 1/dollar per month fee per user for the Cloud EPC. They are working on a local EPC option but it's not ironed out yet. The monthly user fee is not being charged yet as far as I know. Joe On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > Are

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Mitch Koep
+100 best decision On 04/28/2017 03:27 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: Thank you for the feedback. It is all Cat5e so I'll just add a patch panel there and re-wire them all. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:37 AM, > wrote: Punchdowns are probably

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Mitch Koep
Are there any hidden fees like monthly, cpe based, AP based, number of users? Core controller? Thanks On 04/28/2017 02:59 PM, Jerry Head wrote: True. On 4/28/2017 2:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, but the thing I didn't realize before I ordered, was that there's actually no reason you

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Christopher Gray
Thank you for the feedback. It is all Cat5e so I'll just add a patch panel there and re-wire them all. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:37 AM, wrote: > Punchdowns are probably 50%-75% the cause of all troubles in these types > of installations. I very much dislike them. > Even for

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Head
True. On 4/28/2017 2:43 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, but the thing I didn't realize before I ordered, was that there's actually no reason you need to use the Baicells power cable - the eNB does come with the power connector, which can easily be put on cable of the appropriate type. You

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but the thing I didn't realize before I ordered, was that there's actually no reason you need to use the Baicells power cable - the eNB does come with the power connector, which can easily be put on cable of the appropriate type. You do need an antenna though... I used a KPP sector. On

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Head
You also need a power cable as the base station is not POE. On 4/28/2017 2:30 PM, Tim Alexander wrote: Hi Jason, Just to be clear, you probably know this, you do need an antenna for the AP itself. The firmware is very much in beta. Rate limiting, proper l3 routing, l2 bridging (or what

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Tim Alexander
Hi Jason, Just to be clear, you probably know this, you do need an antenna for the AP itself. The firmware is very much in beta. Rate limiting, proper l3 routing, l2 bridging (or what passes for it in LTE world), snmp, and comprehensive management are still very much works in progress. The

Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

2017-04-28 Thread SmarterBroadband
 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town I see they sprung for the pressure treated 4x4 — nice touch; clearly they’re planning

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Mathew Howard
If you want to try it, I would highly recommend ordering a starter kit today... they have a pretty nice deal, which I think only runs until April 30th. It will get you an eNB and three UE... and yes, that's all you need to get it running. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Josh Luthman
10W isn't legal in the US. Bridge mode is upcoming, it's in beta right now I think. Just buy an eNB (AP) to put on the tower and some UE (CPE) for customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Jason

[AFMUG] Baicells 3.65

2017-04-28 Thread Jason McKemie
I've got a couple of questions for those of you using this gear - Is there anything besides the base station necessary to run this or is it standalone? Is there a bridge mode? Any reason to the the 10W BS vs the 1W? There is a pretty big price difference.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissed off PhD

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
No, debate and the scientific method is OK. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissed off PhD So we've cut out politics, but religion is ok? - Josh On Apr 28, 2017 1:42 PM, wrote: This guy wrote an op ed

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissed off PhD

2017-04-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
So we've cut out politics, but religion is ok? - Josh On Apr 28, 2017 1:42 PM, wrote: > This guy wrote an op ed piece in the Salt Lake Tribune today criticizing a > doctor for claiming that divine intervention saved his wife's life, and the > doctor had the temerity to make

[AFMUG] OT Pissed off PhD

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
This guy wrote an op ed piece in the Salt Lake Tribune today criticizing a doctor for claiming that divine intervention saved his wife's life, and the doctor had the temerity to make this announcement on earth day. So Mr. PhD had to take him to task in the news paper. I looked up the guys email

[AFMUG] RF propagation and Google Earth 3D?

2017-04-28 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Any tool that uses Google Earth 3D and RF propagation together? Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Robert Andrews
That's very true.. The shooting incidents I was thinking about was the west coast longshoreman's strike that resulted in wholesale slaughter of union workers... On 04/28/2017 10:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: One could argue that a management shooting employees that wanted to organize or

Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

2017-04-28 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
I see they sprung for the pressure treated 4x4 — nice touch; clearly they’re planning long-term. > On 28 Apr 2017, at 16:31, Adam Moffett wrote: > > We can hope that. Even so, my temporary install would be a lot prettier than > that. > > > > -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
That was a good one, I bought the book too. -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 11:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process. That reminds me of the old TV show, Connections. I loved that show and it ended way too

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Har Har Har... Happy Friday guys, Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
Yeah, that guy is looking for a job in central TX -Original Message- From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process. Well, the guy that I mentioned earlier is no longer an issue. He

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Dan Petermann
That reminds me of the old TV show, Connections. I loved that show and it ended way too soon. I wonder it its kicking around on the net somewhere………. On Apr 28, 2017, at 11:04 AM, wrote: > One could argue that a management shooting employees that wanted to

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Well, the guy that I mentioned earlier is no longer an issue. He decided, on his own, to climb a customer tower without training, proper equipment, or instruction yesterday. Had to let him go. Apparently, the instructions of: "Nobody climbs towers except me and Chris" was unclear. So

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
One could argue that a management shooting employees that wanted to organize or strike has resulted in our current internet... This is the logic: Andrew Carnegie hired Pilkington guards to control or suppress a labor uprising. Can't remember if it was a strike or organizing activities. One

Re: [AFMUG] "blowing conduit"

2017-04-28 Thread Chris Fabien
If these are private roads and short crossings look into a pneumatic missile to cross the roads. Maybe that's the "blowing" he's talking about? I would under no circumstances cut the asphalt, I'm not sure what the asphalt dude would cost to repair it but it'll never be the same, especially if you

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Robert Andrews
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely... It goes both ways and always will..But rarely have union employees had crews shoot management.. Back in the 1910-1920 era, that was _not_ true the other way around...Now there were cases of unions shooting their OWN people to

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Larry Smith
When unions were a "shield" for the workers to protect and garner better conditions they were reasonable; once they turned into the "club" to beat management and companies into doing their will they became despickable (IMO). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri April 28 2017 10:59, Adam

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
Technicians at Pacific Northwest Bell used to save the bad FETRONS (solid state replacements for vacuum tubes used on long distance carrier lines). When they went on strike they would randomly put bad FETRONS throughout the analog carrier channel cards. I was told this personally by my

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Adam Moffett
That's scandalous. I have never experienced anything like that. I wasn't against unions until I was a young adultand in principle I'm still not "against unions", I'm against how far they seem to be reaching. In 1999 I was doing tech support for $8.50/hour. I think I had 50% medical

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
Punchdowns are probably 50%-75% the cause of all troubles in these types of installations. I very much dislike them. Even for dial tone they are problematic. Wirewrap never seemed to fail. If they were brand new when installed , punched correctly and nobody ever ever ever touched one single

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread chuck
I was kinda almost union once. Worked for UPS as a seasonal sorter truck loader in their PDX hub. Couple of teamsters came in the truck I was loading. Threatened me that if I did not join the union I would find working there difficult, extracted some cash from me to fund the united way and

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Bill Prince
That's what I would worry about. More connections, and questions about the quality of same, bp On 4/28/2017 7:48 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: The amount of exposed wire looks appropriate for a punchdown. They also left the twists intact all the way in. I do wonder how

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Adam Moffett
The amount of exposed wire looks appropriate for a punchdown. They also left the twists intact all the way in. I do wonder how the "piggy back" jack stays secure in the punchdown block. Will the weight of a hanging patch cord try to pull it out over time? -- Original Message --

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Adam Moffett
Interesting. I've never seen a jack like you're describing. Are these piggy back jacks designed to swap pins around for you? If pin 1 through 8 on the RJ45 part correspond to the 1st through 8th connections on the 110 punchdown part, then you'll have split pairs. At least you have CAT5 to

Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

2017-04-28 Thread Adam Moffett
We can hope that. Even so, my temporary install would be a lot prettier than that. -- Original Message -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/28/2017 10:22:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town Maybe it's an emergency link that's

Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

2017-04-28 Thread Steve Jones
It is cutting corners. Youre adding another layer of points of failure using non standard components. Think about the dumbest tech you've ever met. Imagine you had to hire him for whatever reason and there were an after the fact issue here and you sent him to troubleshoot, would you be able to

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-28 Thread Jerry Head
You clearly are non-union. On 4/24/2017 8:57 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Well then you would not be working for me. Or UPS or FedEX or Les Schwab or Tunex or .. Treating someone like crap is a far different thing than treating them like an adult. You own their work output when they are on

Re: [AFMUG] New competition in town

2017-04-28 Thread Jay Weekley
Maybe it's an emergency link that's temporary. I've been known to use materials at hand because we got a call at 2pm that a fiber link had been damaged and they needed an emergency bypass. Nate Burke wrote: The actual install aside, why is this guy coming to town? Filling in areas that you

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Cacti templates.

2017-04-28 Thread Dave
I am still working on a complete template for Epmp and cnpilot stuff. On 04/27/2017 08:12 PM, Steve Utick wrote: I've got some PMP450 files that I've used in the past that should work fine. Some of it is stuff I put together, some is stuff I found. Available at: