Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

I'm not sure whether that rule matters. Everyone has the same incentive to avoid interference with each other as they did before. Right now if we interfere with each other there's no recourse. Sounds like that'll still be the case. Codified status quo. -- Original Message --

Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

this is exactly right. LTE only works as good as it works because of the little bit of advantage you get from the LTE protocol/scheduler and because 3.65Ghz is generally a much quieter band. as soon as your introduce noise, it all does start to break down. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

this are gig e sfp we are having issues with but ive read about fiber sfp on mikrotik too, as we push more bandwith inward and replace the rb with ccr 1072s its just not worth the issues, HP procurve is non problematic plus it gives us options On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket

Everyone is a comedian tonight...wait till I post pictures of what I am enjoying this fine evening... Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 8:08 PM, "Mitch Koep" wrote: > And the yellow hurricane strap lol > > On 7/21/2017 3:50 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > It is tornado hold down

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

What kind of SFP problem? We haven’t had anything major, been using the FS.com SFPs, From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed given the

Re: [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket

And the yellow hurricane strap lol On 7/21/2017 3:50 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It is tornado hold down for the building. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 2:48 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket We custom made this bracket. Tower base is secured with 5

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

given the issues weve been having with mikrotik sfp, and Ethernet. we decided yesterday a procurve is going between. we will just vlan the ports in the procurve. I like the 1810G and the rb1100ahx2 in a vertical 4U rack for our small enclosures and a racket 12u in our tall enclosures On Fri, Jul

Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

I rode thatr magic pony for about ten minutes, then I put a ubnt by a 320 not on the same channel at all and watched the destruction On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > It’s “magic” in that LTE is very good when interference is very low - as > it often is

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

And yes, a 48 to 24 little device thingy is required, guess you can’t everything From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:09 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed Yeah...

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap

Micro. Pops. That's where the distributed low cost APs make sense (where you can of course). On Jul 21, 2017 4:02 PM, "Joe Falaschi" wrote: > What Chris said. > > Our 450Ms have been a huge game changer for us. We have a tower with 300 > people on it, pretty much all on one

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap

We’ll see 30M speedtests to individual CPE and 140Mbps aggregate AP throughput at peak. All of our plans are less than 15Mbps at the moment with many customers on 6M plans, but we plan to change that soon. For us at the moment it’s not so much about showing a 100+ meg speed test to one client

Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

It’s “magic” in that LTE is very good when interference is very low - as it often is when you have complete control of the frequency like a cell carrier does. The noise floor at the CPE buried in trees isn’t likely to increase greatly as others move into CBRS, but the noise floor at the AP is

Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

It was before the noise came On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 7/21/17 13:49, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > >> >> I’m very concerned that many of you are installing NLOS services and >> counting on being able to continue to provide service use extremely

Re: [AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

On 7/21/17 13:49, Mark Radabaugh wrote: I’m very concerned that many of you are installing NLOS services and counting on being able to continue to provide service use extremely low signal levels. I routinely see posts of people installing LTE customers at very low signal levels. This is

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap

Joe, what throughput are you getting on those loaded 450M APs? On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Joe Falaschi wrote: > What Chris said. > > Our 450Ms have been a huge game changer for us. We have a tower with 300 > people on it, pretty much all on one side (180 degrees is busy

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

Yeah... that would be really nice. I think the only Mikrotik routers that currently support a decent voltage range are some of the CCRs and the hEX POE... which isn't bad, but only 5 ethernet ports. Oh, there is at least one CRS that supports 57v, but it's CPU is kind of underpowered for using as

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap

What Chris said. Our 450Ms have been a huge game changer for us. We have a tower with 300 people on it, pretty much all on one side (180 degrees is busy and the other 180 degrees is pretty silent). In the past we’d add an AP to offload capacity and that AP was used up day one. There just

Re: [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket

Yep, except we don't get tornadoes... Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 2:51 PM, wrote: > It is tornado hold down for the building. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 2:48 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket > > We custom made this

Re: [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket

It is tornado hold down for the building. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 2:48 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Sturdy bracket We custom made this bracket. Tower base is secured with 5 inch concrete anchor. Spent two hours on tower...solid all the way... AF5X with 30dB

[AFMUG] Be careful with 3650 (was CBRS in trouble)

I urge ALL of you using 3.65 gear to pay very close attention to what the definition of power level at the edge of a SAS is - it is a whole lot louder than many of you are thinking about. The actual document is here: https://www.fcc.gov/document/35-ghz-order-recon-and-2nd-ro

[AFMUG] Sturdy bracket

We custom made this bracket. Tower base is secured with 5 inch concrete anchor. Spent two hours on tower...solid all the way... AF5X with 30dB dish. Bracket is attached to I-Beam with three thread rods .. Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

On 7/21/17 12:38, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: The way it's structured right now, the 50MHz we are using now, and the top 30MHz of the CBRS band will all be GA. The bottom 70MHz of CBRS is set aside for PALs. Currently they are to be auctioned off by census tract for 5 years, with one

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

If it only supported 10-60VDC. I hate having to add a DC-DC converter for one damn device. On 7/21/2017 3:40 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yup, RB3011 is what you want. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Paul McCall > wrote: Yep, don’t why I didn’t

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

Yup, RB3011 is what you want. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Yep, don’t why I didn’t think of that. The 3011 will fit the bill nicely > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 1:36 PM

Re: [AFMUG] 6 ghz xlic radio options?

What is the total throughput and price of these? From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 6 ghz xlic radio options? SIAE Also Plus 2 Ceragon / Cambium IP20/820 Anything im missing? Gino A. Villarini President

[AFMUG] 6 ghz xlic radio options?

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Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

The way it's structured right now, the 50MHz we are using now, and the top 30MHz of the CBRS band will all be GA. The bottom 70MHz of CBRS is set aside for PALs. Currently they are to be auctioned off by census tract for 5 years, with one renewal option. That's what WISPA fought for, and

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

My understanding is that GA availability would be dependant on what's actually in use... so you would still be able to use it in an area where someone holds a PAL, but hasn't actually deployed anything. Of course if the entire 150mhz is auctioned off as PALs, there's always going to be the

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

Yep, don’t why I didn’t think of that. The 3011 will fit the bill nicely From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 1:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed RB3011. Fast,

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

The only reason for not doing the $ 380 CCR is that it is on the bottom where if there is surge damage, its going to take it more directly. We are in Florida, and protect the crap out of stuff, but…. I hate to think of a router as a consumable, but it is a factor. Paul From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

RB3011. Fast, stable (once you upgrade past earlt factory firmware that had packet loss bug), $170. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > As we moved all out towers to Fiber / Power up the tower, we still have > the router at the bottom (running a UBNT S16) at

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

This was posted to the WISPA lists. If you are using or plan to use CBRS please file BY MONDAY in the FCC docket your comments: Please compose your OWN letter to the FCC and file it with the FCC by Monday. Do NOT simply copy our memo and post it to the FCC. This needs to be in your words,

Re: [AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

IMO Just go to the CCR and don't worry about the CPU anymore. The middle ground might be the 3011. 1.4ghz dual core for about $180. -- Original Message -- From: "Paul McCall" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 7/21/2017 1:17:02 PM Subject: [AFMUG] cost

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

Review: The previously adopted rules split the 150mhz of the 3.5ghz band into a general availability (GA) section and a 70mhz wide Priority Access License (PAL) section. PAL licenses are to be auctioned per census tract, and have a 3 year license term. At the end of 3 years you can renew

[AFMUG] cost effective, mid-range performance Mikrotik router needed

As we moved all out towers to Fiber / Power up the tower, we still have the router at the bottom (running a UBNT S16) at the tower top. The only thing we really have at the bottom that plugs into the router (other than Fiber) is a SiteMonitor. (Boy, I wish it had an SFP, but I digress.) So,

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

Came home, heard a ruckus in the basement, grabbed my son's rifle and headed down like an idiot yelling that I had a gun and was coming for them. Turned out a cat had crawled into a bathroom vent and had clawed its way out of the vent tubing and out of the ceiling etc. Was stupid and not

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

When I was eleven I was home alone and was temporarily held hostage in a home invasion. I was caught in mid-indecision about whether to threaten them with an unloaded .22 rifle or to try to sneak up upon them and brain them with a baseball bat. Never got to choose, probably luckily. I guess I

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

Word..to your mother if you are so inclined. On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:56 AM, wrote: > phat > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:34 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation > Mitigation. > > Like it's

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

phat From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Like it's Fly? I still use bitchin Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 8:24 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: What

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

How does one get access to this beta store? On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: > I think they are still in the beta store until end of the weekend! > > Thanks, > -Hal > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 7:45 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] This seems suspiciously cheap

The white boxes are very sturdy but they are steel. Not sure about the aluminum boxes. On 7/21/2017 8:44 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: are they real flimsy? On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Jerry Head > wrote: We use these quite

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

I think they are still in the beta store until end of the weekend! Thanks, -Hal On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 7:45 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > So are they currently available via the beta store, or does one need to > just wait until the regular channels get them at this point? >

[AFMUG] For Sale: ePMP 2.4 GPS AP

c024900a011a https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=C024900A011A=0 I have just the radio itself for sale, it was a spare but we're not doing 2.4 due to noise problems. I'd like it gone for a reasonable price. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS in trouble

I didn't read through the whole thing, but from what I got skimming through it, it sounds like they basically want PALs to be auctioned for the entire 150mhz, instead of the current 70mhz they're limited to, and they want a single entity to be allowed to hold more PALs... and some changes to the

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

Who cares what you call it, just leave it and grab the Cannoli… Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Like it's Fly? I still use

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

Like it's Fly? I still use bitchin Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 8:24 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > What happened to gat, that was so 90s > > On Jul 21, 2017 9:08 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> Gangster movies called them a “piece”. >> >> *From:* Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

What happened to gat, that was so 90s On Jul 21, 2017 9:08 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Gangster movies called them a “piece”. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection /

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

Gangster movies called them a “piece”. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:05 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. Quete is slang for hand gun around here Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 7:03 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

Quete is slang for hand gun around here Jaime Solorza On Jul 21, 2017 7:03 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > I get a real kick out of 'language' it's differences and word usage by > folks from different areas ! > (I learned Queen's English, as such folks often pointed out

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

If you were still in quincy youd be daft not to be packing heat On Jul 21, 2017 8:46 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: To me a pistol is a revolver, otherwise it is an automatic. I know, most of the time they are semi-automatics, but it is just the associations I have in my head. If

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

To me a pistol is a revolver, otherwise it is an automatic. I know, most of the time they are semi-automatics, but it is just the associations I have in my head. If the cop asks me what kind of gun I would probably automatically answer either pistol or auto. I was only asked that question

Re: [AFMUG] This seems suspiciously cheap

are they real flimsy? On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Jerry Head wrote: > We use these quite a bit except we get the white ones. > They work great. > > > On 7/19/2017 3:12 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > >> With free shipping... >> >> Anybody want to take a gamble on one of

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

I have that dream all the time. You throw the punch but it is like you are in a pool of honey and you just cannot get any power into it. Very frustrating. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP

Re: [AFMUG] This seems suspiciously cheap

We use these quite a bit except we get the white ones. They work great. On 7/19/2017 3:12 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: With free shipping... Anybody want to take a gamble on one of these for a micro pop enclosure?

Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.

I get a real kick out of 'language' it's differences and word usage by folks from different areas ! (I learned Queen's English, as such folks often pointed out to me that my choice of words in conversation were sometimes not common). Love how in this thread folks have refereed to their "side