Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

The ARC Wireless and Ubnt RD-5G30 appear to be almost the same, physically (ARC has N connectors, and different mounting hardware, but the dish itself looks pretty much exactly the same)... I prefer the Ubnt RD-5G30LW over either. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Specs wi

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

"spreadsheet" should have been "data sheet" .. It's getting late.. I need to go to bed ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" > To:

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

LOL ! please re-read what I wrote ... I re-affirmed your observation that the KP Performance Reflectors are very good at noise rejection. I also offered an explanation as to why that is so. I also said, you can test as much as you like, you are not going to change the fact that physics ex

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

Specs wise both the Arc Wireless and Ubnt RD-5G30 do look very similar, Arc's spreadsheets claims that their pattern is cleaner no side lobes on the H-Plane. If you were to look for another Dish antenna with a good value (specs and price wise) Look at the Jirous JRC-29 Extreme .. a wee bit le

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

Seriously. Please explain where my conclusion violated physics? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30 You can test as much as you like.. simpl

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

You can test as much as you like.. simple physics will still stay the same :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Rory Conaway" > To: af@afm

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

We have done a lot more testing than that and I’m probably late to the party but yes, they have turned out to be the best so far. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dB

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

Meatball Engineering, or Bush Mechanics are perfectly fine, until they start being contrary to actual physics. Unless you are re-defining and challenging physics .. which would be a whole different conversation :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net T

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

If you are referring to the KP Performance Reflectors... YES, Absolutely the best in noise rejection and if you are wondering why ? just look at the direction the radio's back side tends to be when it is properly installed ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappy

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

I eliminate as many variables as possible and considering how much different equipment I have to deal with and the time I have to deal with it, I think our methodology of Meatball engineering has been pretty solid. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sun

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

>> I’ll stand by the conclusion based on our experience. I am not countering your conclusion based on your experience. I am suggesting that you look a bit more under the surface to determine the coarse parameters which are the actual cause for your experience and observation. (and not just th

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

Yea, next time I do a White Paper, I’ll let you know. The reality is that few of us have the time to do a full engineering analysis so we extrapolate from the information we have. I’ll stand by the conclusion based on our experience. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Fa

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

if you want to understand the science behind it .. here is an excellent paper discussing all aspects ... https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet70/oet70a.pdf The reason I called your observation anecdotal because a lot of key important information is

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Coming to a s*am folder near you

Nice design chuck! -Sean On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:16 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > OK, second try, one at a time... > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Coming to a s*am folder near you > > I wonder how large of attachments this list

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Coming to a s*am folder near you

Those are photos of the real deal. Can ship tomorrow. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > Please let us know where and when they have real metal. > > >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018, 8:27 PM Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> No problem getting them >> >> >> Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

It hasn't been an issue. They seem to reject noise better. I just posted a recent comparison of them versus the PowerBeam 620/Prism on Facebook. We already knew they were better than the AF-23 antenna since we did that test but that wasn't a fair comparison due to the gain difference. Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

We love the KP Performance antennas for the CPEs, but haven't used them yet for backhaul. Have you been using them for that as well? We were worried the wider beamwidth would catch too much other noise. Or maybe that hasn't been an issue? Thanks, David Coudron From: Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

Right now the best antenna we have tested at 30dBi has been the KP Performance antennas. We will be testing the RF Elements antennas next. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Coming to a s*am folder near you

Please let us know where and when they have real metal. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018, 8:27 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > No problem getting them > > > Jaime Solorza > > On Jan 21, 2018 5:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> And the other one >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:12

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Coming to a s*am folder near you

No problem getting them Jaime Solorza On Jan 21, 2018 5:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > And the other one > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Coming to a s*am folder near you > > I wonder how large of attachments this list serv wi

[AFMUG] Arc Wireless 30 dBi vs RocketDish RD-5G30

We have traditionally been using the Arc Wireless 30 dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish for our shorter backhaul links when using 5 GHz. The have been OK, but we have a tough time getting them and the radomes from time to time. We are in that situation again. They are priced quite competitively, and

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

Not trying to “throw shade”. We all are interested in any data that helps us to formulate an opinion about the bands and products. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24 I was only interested in

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

I was only interested in Southern Arizona and I have the data. It’s close enough for government work and guide our future deployments. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 5:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick compari

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

Technically anecdotal if you don’t have availability/uptime logs over a year or so. Good anecdotal, but not exactly a bunch of data from a bunch of different sites scattered over a bunch of climate regions. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 4:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie review

And a pretty bad one too. It was supposed to have an Alfred Hitchcock twist but it really didn’t. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 4:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie review Isn't that a chic flick Jaime Solorza On Jan 21, 2018 4:49 PM, wrote: Two

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie review

Isn't that a chic flick Jaime Solorza On Jan 21, 2018 4:49 PM, wrote: > Two thumbs down > > Phantom Thread > > Critics and Rotten Tomatoes are wrong. > Not worth paying for at all. >

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

What are you talking about, anecdotal? I’ll provide more complete information for you then. I’ve got 5 AF24 links in the same area with varying distances from 800’ (although that one was replaced with a B5-Lite last year) to 2.47 miles. The only one that goes down is the 2.47 mile link and ev

[AFMUG] OT Movie review

Two thumbs down Phantom Thread Critics and Rotten Tomatoes are wrong. Not worth paying for at all.

Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki

We've been running Bitnami MediaWiki Stack ( https://bitnami.com/stack/mediawiki (locally hosted, not their cloud service) ) + Semantic Mediawiki extension ( https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki) for the past 5-6 years now, working well for us. --sent from my iPhone On S

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

>> I’ve got an AF24 that will drop at 2.5 miles for about an hour a year. I’ve >> got a 39GHz link at 2 miles that seems pretty solid also This is exactly the type of anecdotal observations that I made reference to earlier :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.sna

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

> This is the first I've heard of adaptive channel sizes.. Not trying to throw a curve ball... but it is one of the 'quiet, open disclosed secret of the Mimosa A5/PTMP system :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-d

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

I believe that is taken into account with 'rain fade' which is a very loose board variance.. thus the arguments / conversations which tend to be more anecdotal than anything else. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk:

Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki

Great flick Jaime Solorza On Jan 21, 2018 1:01 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > Followed by Major Kong riding the Bomb in > > On 01/21/2018 08:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Never considered the idea of giving the customers a good self support >> tool. That is an astoundingly good idea. >> ht

Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki

Followed by Major Kong riding the Bomb in On 01/21/2018 08:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Never considered the idea of giving the customers a good self support tool. That is an astoundingly good idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZct-itCwPE *From:* Jeremy *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2018 9

Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki

Never considered the idea of giving the customers a good self support tool. That is an astoundingly good idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZct-itCwPE From: Jeremy Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki MindTouch (Deki) Wiki? They have

Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki

MindTouch (Deki) Wiki? They have it in a ready-to-go linux turnkey distro. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Well then you may like Confluence - especially with the Gliffy plugin > which is awesome for diagrams! > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> M

Re: [AFMUG] OT tech wiki

Well then you may like Confluence - especially with the Gliffy plugin which is awesome for diagrams! On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > My complaint with a wiki was that it was very clunky to add non-text > content. I like to use a lot of diagrams and photos. > Might give th

Re: [AFMUG] Quick comparison between 80GHz and AF24

So lucky you can stretch mmw to those distances! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 20, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1152763711515746 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] New cambium firmware release

Thanks! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote: I note that cambium officially released 15.1.3 on Friday. Among other things this seems to fix a bug that some of my customers have encountered where the

Re: [AFMUG] Tesswave antennas

They seem to resell Chinese antennas .. should not be too difficult to source those somewhere else? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini > On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Jerry Head wrote: > > +1 > > >> On 1/19/2018 1:58 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: >> Has anyone dealt with Tesswave antennas? Trying to