http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/c3voip200
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:44 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Cc:* memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [AF
:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE:
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/c3voip200
*From:*Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:*Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:44 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
I have customers that throw away the old style and just plug the cable
straight into their router.
DUHHH... Like whats this for??
I was hoping for more of a change where the unit gets plugged straight
into the wall outlet with a highlighted
port for POE and the other for data. Sort of like the
as for dramatic effect ;-)
>>>
>>> -sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof <
>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>> This is sounding
Five Easy Pieces.
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
but if i decide to completely move all new installs to
heat toast in Five Easy Pieces.
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
but if i decide to
This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his
whole wheat toast in Five Easy Pieces.
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*S
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
> The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be
> Motorola not Cambium.
>
> If Cambium was worried about losing a bunch of sales, they would
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>> This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat
>>> toast in Five Easy Pieces.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sean Heskett
>>> *Sent:* Thurs
ct ;-)
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>> This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat
>> toast in Five Easy Pieces.
>>
>> *From:* Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
ent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they
would be very sad puppies.
just sayin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, mail
o:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be
Motorola not Cambium.
If Cambium was worried about losing a bunch of sales, they wouldn’t be
dropping the product. My guess is it’s a m
I was using phihong power supplies 20+ years ago.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be Motorola not
Cambium.
If Cambium was worried about
;> *Sender: * "Af"
>> *Date: *Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 +0000
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>
>> That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a
>> bunch of sales
ohhof wrote:
> This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat
> toast in Five Easy Pieces.
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
> but if i d
This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat toast in
Five Easy Pieces.
From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be
won't keep
> them up at night.
> --
> *From: * TJ Trout
> *Sender: * "Af"
> *Date: *Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 +
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
> That will be r
fmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a
bunch of sales, lol
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
> With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of
> product stock
manufacturer (or a knockoff from somewhere else), it would be reasonable to
expect Cambium to give the OK. I wouldn’t expect them to cry over the lost
revenue though.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
That will be
That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a
bunch of sales, lol
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
> With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of
> product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and
>
With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of
product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and
didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs.
I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer years ago
when there was a
Which is great...for you.
Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it away if there is still
demand? Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer they
get them from??
On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners wrote:
> I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE:
>
> -less
I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE:
-less outlet space needed
-gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's likely next
generation will hit 100+)
-can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router.
-won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due t
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:05 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
> I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE:
> http://www.cambiumnetworks.c
I don’t believe the old POE had any surge protection, didn’t lighting take out
the router anyway?
From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
so then instead of an $8 point of failure (when lightning strikes) we now
oducts/c3voip200
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
> Our solution for now is we purchased a year and a half supply of them.
>
> :-
Damn Ken… you beat me to it!! I was going to say that.
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE
I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE:
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/c3voip200
From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
Our solution for now is we
In addition to the useability factors the old Poe was $8 the new one is $20
+ a cable $4 so 3x the cost per install now :-/
I fail to see why cambium can't allow us to buy which ever one we want.
On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich
wrote:
> Check out the details at
> http://community.camb
“It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.”
- corollary to Murphy’s Law
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
If you fool proof something, all you're doing is making a b
Pretty much the same here - we bought out what we could find.
I don’t like the extra cost of the power cord and the additional Ethernet
cable. More connections is just more places to screw it up. In addition we
now have several thousand of the old style mixed in with the new style. Makes
su
Our solution for now is we purchased a year and a half supply of them.
:-P
On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich
wrote:
> Check out the details at
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> Join the Conversation
>
> Cambium Networks Com
n Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:57 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Cc:* memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for
gt;>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:57 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>
>>
>>
>>
oun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:57 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Cc:* memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
Ray can you please come and hang out wit
b...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>
>
>
> Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and
> hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they
> can't??
>
>
>
> Just because you ha
Now this is a good idea. The label on the old power supplies was Radio and
Computer I believe.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I think a big part of the issue with customers
I think a big part of the issue with customers plugging things in wrong is
labelling. "Data" and "Data+Power" means nothing to the typical caveman
customer. We've been putting stickers on UBNT power supplies for years
labelling the ports "Antenna" and "PC/Router" and we rarely get customers
pluggin
...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and hand
them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they can't??
Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good decis
Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and
hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they
can't??
Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good decision
and we are asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE sucks! Period
Did you have a big enough power supply to the map2n?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Matt wrote:
> > RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out?
>
> http://routerboard.co
> RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out?
http://routerboard.com/RBmAP2n has POE out.
Unfortunately we have found that with a 50 foot cat5 run and surge
arrestor many times it will not power the SM. With a vary short cat5
run it will though. A POE crossover is re
Wellthe Telrad PoE for the 7000SU is similar to Canopy, with a built
in pigtail that plugs into the customer router/PC...albeit slightly
longer. Every previous generation of Telrad/Alvarion had a midspan POE.
On 6/25/2015 12:59 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
What SM can do more than 100mbps in
What SM can do more than 100mbps in one direction
That's fine if they want to sell the new POEs with whatever new product is
coming out but at least let us buy the old ones if we want to. Completely
removing them from the market is really frustrating.
We never drank the 320 koolaid.
Even th
My epmp poe writing on which port is what is dark like the markings have
faded
On Jun 25, 2015 11:43 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote:
> And yet, we have a contingent of subscribers that manage to do it "the
> wrong way" with multiple variations.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 6/25/2015 9:23 AM, Steve D wrote:
>
>> How
And yet, we have a contingent of subscribers that manage to do it "the
wrong way" with multiple variations.
bp
On 6/25/2015 9:23 AM, Steve D wrote:
However, the comment "so easy a caveman could do it" is so absolutely
true - you really had to go out of your way to plug it in wrong.
I imagine they want to move to gigE-capable PSUs and since the old design
with the connection in the pigtail won't support that, it's time for a
change. The training difference is minor if you already have the .AF PMP320
PSUs.
On Jun 25, 2015 10:24 AM, "Sean Heskett" wrote:
> Dear Cambium,
>
> Wh
I resent the assertion that my customers are stupider than a cave man.
I know, sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRRlEyplGQ8
From: Steve D
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:23 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
Is
Is Cambium moving to an 802.3af future? At some point I'd love to see
that. Thought I read the 450i or d was doing that. At least then we could
source our own parts if we wanted to. I can't recall exactly, but I'm
pretty sure a camera I installed in the last year or two had a very similar
desig
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
I honestly hate the epmp poe and the old ones are so easy a cave man can do it
On Jun 25, 2015 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
wrote:
blacbox
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Thanks for the link josh. The
RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Matt wrote:
> > Dear Cambium,
> >
> > Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still
> Dear Cambium,
>
> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>
> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND
> our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone
> to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>
> Can y
I honestly hate the epmp poe and the old ones are so easy a cave man can do
it
On Jun 25, 2015 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
wrote:
> blacbox
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of
>> $24 is someo
blacbox
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
> Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of
> $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also
> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>
> Come on ca
Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24
is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also
eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
-Sean
On Thursday, June
Dear Cambium,
Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND
our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone
to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
Can you either keep
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