> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>&
gt; <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>
gt;
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett"
;>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix&
tps://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
&g
com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https:
ny/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> -------
WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 12:01:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Perhaps our ticketing systems need an input box where we can copy + paste the
ACNS XML into and it files it with the correct custom
uting Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Auer"
To: "Animal Farm"
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 11:32:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
I filled out that survey and then realized that
: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:32 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
I filled out that survey and then realized that most of the burden comes down
to the shi**y state of ticketing systems / backoffice tooling (aside from not
being able to file the registered agent form
303) 746-3590
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016
OK. I'm stupid...
bp
On 2/3/2016 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
On purpose...
*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:16 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Dyslexic acr
On purpose...
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Dyslexic acronym.
DMCA (Dumb Money Customer Application?)...
bp
On 2/3/2016 7:09 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Hmmm, I think I will start sending out
$20 and give them a full release
*From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 5:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Now if we could just get the automated DMCA "pay up or we su
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Now if we could just get the automated DMCA "pay up or we sue you" extortion
emailers to realize that Canadian ARIN IP blocks are not subject to the DMCA.
All that crap goes to /dev/null...
On Feb 2, 2016 9:31 AM, "Jeremy" w
of
> DCMA violations. Might make a few bucks.
> (Dumb Consumers Money Application). I will let them off the hook for $20
> and give them a full release
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 5:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMU
From: "Jeremy"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 2:24:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Just thinking out loud. It does take a lot of time, as we are using NAT
heavily, and I have to track them each down with TCP dump based on their
torrent port.
Now if we could just get the automated DMCA "pay up or we sue you"
extortion emailers to realize that Canadian ARIN IP blocks are not subject
to the DMCA.
All that crap goes to /dev/null...
On Feb 2, 2016 9:31 AM, "Jeremy" wrote:
> What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a custome
> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as
>> well
>> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>>
>>
>>
>> If they don’t pay it, then they are off.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I
in.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn:
<https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
And it should prove that we did ever
And it should prove that we did everything possible to keep our hands clean.
From: Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
So you actually made them follow up on the message with the copyright holder?
That seems even
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Keefe John
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has been discussed before, the DMCA safe harbor doesn't allow the
>>>>>> provider to charge the copyright holder for this.
>>>>
ware. That never happened.
>>
>> *From:* Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:41 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>>
>> Yeah, we expect them to switch. We are uninstalling the equipment. I am
>
: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
We send the notice and call them after to make sure they ack it. On the third
strike, we suspend their service until they call in. Letting them know at that
time if we receive future notices it’ll be a $100 administrative fee per notice
we receive. They usually
uesday, February 02, 2016 1:41 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>
> Yeah, we expect them to switch. We are uninstalling the equipment. I am
> just trying to figure out how long we should ban them for. I really don'
d it would leak into the press or
> the schoolboard would become aware. That never happened.
>
> *From:* Jeremy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>
> Yeah, we expect them to switch. We are u
back on. I think he
was worried it would leak into the press or the schoolboard would become aware.
That never happened.
From: Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Yeah, we expect them to switch. We are uninstalling
safe harbor for content you host for customers, you
need to list every customer domain on your application with the Copyright
Office, not just your own.
From: Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
I really have no idea
Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson <
>>>> sterl...@avative.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Haha!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it’s against your AUP, make sure you have a clause in th
12:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Haha!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it’s against your AUP, make sure you have a clause in there that says
>>> you
>>> charge per incident.
>>&
u
>> charge per incident.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then go ahead and charge the customer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as
>> well
>> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>>
>>
>>
&g
>>>>> charge per incident.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then go ahead and charge the customer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like if you are just
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as
>>>>> well
>>>>> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If they don’t pay it, then
notices. Maybe
after 6 or 12 months no notices, take them off probation.
From: Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Just thinking out loud. It does take a lot of time, as we are using NAT
heavily, and I have to track
>
>
>
> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as
> well
> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>
>
>
> If they don’t pay it, then they are off.
>
>
>
> Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think.
>
>
>
kick them off eventually, might as
> well
> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>
>
>
> If they don’t pay it, then they are off.
>
>
>
> Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think.
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behal
gt;
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as
>>>> well
>>>> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If they don’t pay it, then they are
t; Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as
>>> well
>>> try to keep them, but make it costly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If they don’t pay it, then they are off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing legally wr
n they are off.
Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a
suspend service after the Nth time and charge to
turn it back on, just make sure you eventually refuse to turn them back on,
or you could lose safe harbor protection like happened to Cox.
-Original Message-
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
hink.
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:57 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>
>
>
> Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with customers
&g
are off.
Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with
Please record the first customer call you get for that fee and post it
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:57 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with customers
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>
>> What do you thing
Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with customers
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Jeremy wrote:
> What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a customer gets a
> DMCA takedown notice. These notices take time to track down and follow up
> on. If we charged $20 every time it
You should be sending that fee to the organization requesting the DCMA
takedown. Your time is not free, nor has the customer been afforded
due process for the allegation(s).
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Jeremy wrote:
> What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a customer gets a
>
What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a customer gets a
DMCA takedown notice. These notices take time to track down and follow up
on. If we charged $20 every time it would make it not really worth it to
pirate that $10 movie. I would think that it should be legal, so long as
we
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