[AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-23 Thread Nate Burke
We just had a new public library built here in town. The entire LAN infrastructure is built on PON using the Tellabs ONT's. http://www01.tellabs.com/products/tellabs1100ont.shtml I've briefly looked around their site, and read some case studies, but Why would you choose PON infrastructure in

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-23 Thread Paul Stewart
It's probably part of a standard product delivery .. the GPON ends up being a demarcation point to the customer. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:49 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why

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2015-06-23 Thread Gino Villarini
lt;https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > -- > *From: *"Nate Burke" > > *To: *"Animal Farm" > > *Sent: *Tuesda

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:49:14 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? We just had a new public library built here in town. The entire LAN infrastructure is built on PON using the Tellabs ONT's. http://www01.tellabs.com/products/tellabs1100ont.shtml I've briefly looked around

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2015-06-23 Thread Nate Burke
*From: *"Nate Burke" *To: *"Animal Farm" *Sent: *Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:49:14 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? We just had a new public library built here in town. The entire LAN infrastructure is built on PON using the Tellabs ONT's. h

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2015-06-23 Thread Caleb Knauer
> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ---------- > *From: *"Nate Burke"

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2015-06-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:16:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? But Why? I understand Long haul PON for FTTH, to conserve miles and miles of trunk fiber, but why in a building? Instead of having a single device (a switch) you now have active ha

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2015-06-23 Thread Chuck Hogg
; > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > -- > *From: *"Nate Burke" > *

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2015-06-23 Thread Nate Burke
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Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

2015-06-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
Was it done with E-Rate money? Is the service provider managing the internal network? Maybe this is their MTU architecture. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? If the Desktop NIC can talk directly to the PON, that

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2015-06-23 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:44:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? If the Desktop NIC can talk directly to the PON, that totally makes sense. But why run PON to the wa

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2015-06-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I agree. Does such a creature exist? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? Do they have just a standard PON box at each desktop? If so, that's critically stupid. PON to the wall is friggin dumb. PON to an SFP i

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2015-06-23 Thread KevinR
ge > http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> >

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2015-06-23 Thread Gerard Dupont III
uch a creature exist? > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:01 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? > > Do they have just a standard PON box at each desktop? If so, that's > critically stupid. PON to the wall is fr

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2015-06-23 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
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2015-06-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I think Calix has come down over time. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? Are you scared of vendor lock-in with PON? That’s what scares me. Calix jacking up their rates without any recourse but swapping

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2015-06-23 Thread Paul Stewart
: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? I think Calix has come down over time. From: Cassidy B. Larson <mailto:c...@infowest.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:33 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? Are you scared of vendor

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2015-06-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Their support certainly has not. On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Chuck McCown wrote: > I think Calix has come down over time. > > *From:* Cassidy B. Larson > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:33 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? > &g

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2015-06-23 Thread Nate Burke
change >http://www.midwest-ix.com > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Nate Burke" >To: af@afmug.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:44:14 AM >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? > >If the Desktop NIC can talk directly to the PON, that totally

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2015-06-23 Thread Chuck Hogg
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2015-06-24 Thread Roger Timmerman
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2015-06-24 Thread Chuck Hogg
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2015-06-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
t;[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:16:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Wh

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2015-06-25 Thread Jason McKemie
;>> PON to the desktop would only have active gear in the NOC and in the >>>>> device. Everything between is passive. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Co

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2015-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:10:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? Maybe it's a non-issue, but it seems like active layout is the way to go. You wind up with a fiber or two to each house and you can still hook it up in a pon configuration, but have the option to

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2015-06-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
e, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> PON to the desktop would only have active gear in the NOC and in the >>>>>> device. Everything between is passive. >>>>>> >>>>&

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2015-06-25 Thread Jason McKemie
gt;>>>>> >>>>>> The more PON we do, the more I like it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>