Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-26 Thread Nate Burke
;mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show +1 Billion I love my geek IT dudes they make me laugh at times. I had to go next door to

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2016-02-26 Thread Bill Prince
7:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show +1 Billion I love my geek IT dudes they make me laugh at times. I had to go next door to one of our rental suites and help one of them install a sonic wall.

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2016-02-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
otherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, Febru

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
This is what I encounter: http://www.w9mks.org/hamfest/past-hamfest-photos/hamfest-photos-2014/ They are nice folks, but no “young people” in sight. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Once you depart the world

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-26 Thread Bill Prince
ewis.berg...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 9:34 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Sally I think you are right. Many HAMs are older. I think that community is getting older because the highly technical nature doesn't appeal to the yo

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2016-02-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Before autocorrect, I would be offended that you called me Sally. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Sally I think you are right. Many HAMs are older. I think that community is getting older because the highly

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2016-02-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
16, 9:03 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> Most of the hams I have encountered around here are either (a) way too >> old to have a day job at Jiffy Lube, or (b) their day job is for government >> emergency services anyway. I suppose my experience may be atypical.

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:34:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Sally I think you are right. Many HAMs are older. I think that community is getting older because the highly technical natur

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2016-02-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
services anyway. I suppose my experience may be atypical. > > > *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 6:50 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show > Bitter over what exactly? > I guess I don't understand

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2016-02-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Bitter over what exactly? I guess I don't understand how you can possibly think that one industry full of professionals is so vastly populated by inept morons while your industry is completely exempt from such vast incompetence. Do you truly believe

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2016-02-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
gt; Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > > From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, February 26,

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 6:50:32 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Bitter over what exactly? I guess I don't understand how you ca

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2016-02-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
Bitter over what exactly? I guess I don't understand how you can possibly think that one industry full of professionals is so vastly populated by inept morons while your industry is completely exempt from such vast incompetence. Do you truly believe that somebody can run a better ISP than you

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-25 Thread Brian Webster
to defend yourself? Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show It doesn't sound like you have

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2016-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
lt;lewis.berg...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:49:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with public safety types. I have never met one that wouldn't rather try something free, even if it is obvious it wouldn't wo

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2016-02-25 Thread David Milholen
lessmapping.com> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re

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2016-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
gt; > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show > > > > Yes as in anything we have good and not so good...my point was that HAM >

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2016-02-25 Thread Brian Webster
ompanies showing consumers how to get free off the air TV? Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tes

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2016-02-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show > > > > Yes as in anything we have good and not so good...my point was that HAM > folks have had systems o

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2016-02-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
more > discriminating customers rely on referrals and ratings. > > > *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:39 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show > > We will have to agree to disagree. I fire

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-25 Thread Brian Webster
www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show Yes as in anything we have good and not so good...my point was that HAM folks have had systems operating

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2016-02-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
s.berg...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:22:15 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show I agree that an enthusiast will likely try to do a better job, especially since they are likely working on their own equipment. An enthusiast isn't likely to take a we

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2016-02-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
gt; The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewi

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
any/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -----

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2016-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:22:15 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show I agree that an enthusiast will likely try to do a better job, especially since they are likely working on their own equipment. An enthusiast isn't likely to take a week off of work, travel to

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2016-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
change> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Lew

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:56:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show You would be as justified to say there are a wide variety of professional skill levels of radio people as I a

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2016-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
brotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent

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2016-02-25 Thread Mike Hammett
t; To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:07:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show While I have had many bad experiences I also employ several HAMS. The question at hand was "Why don't emergency personal involve HAMS in their operation readiness exercises?". I was me

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2016-02-25 Thread Adam Moffett
This right here is one of the key traits that makes a good technician. Assumptions and inferences are necessary specifically BECAUSE we can't know everything, but we have to recognize them for what they are and not start thinking of them as facts. I don't know everything either, by I

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2016-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
While I have had many bad experiences I also employ several HAMS. The question at hand was "Why don't emergency personal involve HAMS in their operation readiness exercises?". I was merely offering a reason. These public safety officials are professionals, not amateurs, and are typically being

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2016-02-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
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2016-02-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midw

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2016-02-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
westix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>

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2016-02-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
gt;> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <

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2016-02-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
mpany/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -

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2016-02-24 Thread Colin Stanners
therswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:33:56 PM > *Subject: *Re

Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:33:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show FirstNet is a joke. Hardly anyone has reached DHS' level 6 interoperability and they are going to replace all that hardware at a cost by some e

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2016-02-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
FirstNet is a joke. Hardly anyone has reached DHS' level 6 interoperability and they are going to replace all that hardware at a cost by some estimates of over $10 billion.There have been several hair brained schemes to pay for it but nobody has proposed a plan that is likely to succeed. The only

[AFMUG] Tessco Show

2016-02-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
well I attended some interesting sessions. The Public safety one had several speakers from industry , gov't and academia... Learned allot and will share some important items later but I asked a question that really caught them off guard.there was no mention of any testing or work on their