Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-02-01 Thread Mathew Howard
As long as you can show into something on site, it will do the job... well, it would for me, anyway. On Feb 1, 2018 1:17 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > they do but it's not direct TCP like I would like (aka dedicated static) > but neat none the less, they have a very cheap monthly rate but they per MB

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-02-01 Thread Cameron Crum
What if you set the OVPN to only come up if the primary interface fails? Then you won't have all the handshakes eating through your data. On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > It won't fit every situation but if you only need occasional access and > can work within the framewo

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-02-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
It won't fit every situation but if you only need occasional access and can work within the framework there isn't a less expensive way to do it. We use it in a few different scenarios and have a few more planned. We have a demo setup of VoIP phones we use one on, It gets used a few times a month an

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
IPv6? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:51:40 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik I was wanting to add out of band m

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread TJ Trout
they do but it's not direct TCP like I would like (aka dedicated static) but neat none the less, they have a very cheap monthly rate but they per MB rate is very high compared to twilio and others On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > But if Hologram has a way to access the dev

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Mathew Howard
But if Hologram has a way to access the device like Lewis says, there's no reason to maintain a persistent VPN connection. On Jan 31, 2018 8:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: Slightly more expensive, but t-mobile has plans that are $20-25/mo and "unlimited" rate limited 128kbps x 128 kbps after that.

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Slightly more expensive, but t-mobile has plans that are $20-25/mo and "unlimited" rate limited 128kbps x 128 kbps after that. For a critical site $20/mo can be worth it. $2/mo is not a realistic figure if you're maintaining a persistent VPN connection, the $ per MB rate for those sort of plans is

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Hologram is 40 cents. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 8:19 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Interesting...I didn’t know there were plans for $2/mo. That definitely > makes it worthwhile to have a backdoor LTE connection to towers. > > I’ll have to check into that > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:30 PM TJ Trout wro

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Sean Heskett
Interesting...I didn’t know there were plans for $2/mo. That definitely makes it worthwhile to have a backdoor LTE connection to towers. I’ll have to check into that On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:30 PM TJ Trout wrote: > Never, but it's not a bad idea to have out of band management? I can get > the

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Read up on hologram. They have a solution to reach any device on their Network. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 6:30 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > you don't, you set up a really small system at the site which can run > openvpn. In Linux terminology it would have three interfaces, eth0 (private > IP space hardwi

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Eric Kuhnke
you don't, you set up a really small system at the site which can run openvpn. In Linux terminology it would have three interfaces, eth0 (private IP space hardwired to your serial console/core router/POP management equipment), the LTE network interface, and tun0. Have it initiate, from inside the

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread TJ Trout
same as twilio which we use, problem is all LTE is NAT, how do i login to a device behind nat when I cannot force the carrier to give me a port forward? On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Hologram network and set up their site to do it for you. Pretty slick. I > also like th

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Lewis Bergman
Hologram network and set up their site to do it for you. Pretty slick. I also like that is really cheap if you don't use it. As a warning, don't let the MT put a default route in for it or you will pay huge if your primary goes down. Otherwise it is so close to free it is crazy. On Wed, Jan 31, 20

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread TJ Trout
Never, but it's not a bad idea to have out of band management? I can get the LTE service for $2 a month + data used (ssh data = zero) TJ On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Um how often are you loosing contact with your sites to necessitate this > LTE backdoor? > > Seems lik

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Sean Heskett
Um how often are you loosing contact with your sites to necessitate this LTE backdoor? Seems like a lot of overkill to make routing changes??? Am I missing something? -sean On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:48 AM TJ Trout wrote: > Does anyone want to trade a PPTP connection (prefer you are multiho

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread TJ Trout
Does anyone want to trade a PPTP connection (prefer you are multihomed) for the purpose of getting through LTE NAT? AKA I assign you a PPTP account with a static IPV4 and you do the same, so that if either of our networks go down we can use the others to tunnel back thru LTE to preform OOBM functio

Re: [AFMUG] OOBE mikrotik

2018-01-31 Thread Adam Moffett
You can use PPTP through NAT on LTE. You can assign a static private IP to both ends of that tunnel. If PPTP won't pass something you need, you can run an EoIP tunnel using the PPTP IP's as the endpoints of the EoIP tunnel. You end up with a tunnel inside of a tunnel. It'll have a lowish real