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Objet : Re: [agi] Instead of an AGI Textbook
On 26/03/2008, Ben
Hi Ben
Hereby my proposed additional topics / references for your wiki - aimed
at the more computer scienty/mathematically challenged (like me):
Sorry don't have the time to add directly to the wiki
AGI ARCHITECTURES (EXPANDS on the COGNITIVE ARCHITECTURES section)
Questions about any Would-Be
Finally be selective on whom you engage with on the AGI list ;-)
This should have been first.:-)
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From: Jean-paul Van Belle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] Instead of an AGI textbook
Hi Ben
On 26/03/2008, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
A lot of students email me asking me what to read to get up to speed on AGI.
So I started a wiki page called Instead of an AGI Textbook,
http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Instead_of_an_AGI_Textbook#Computational_Linguistics
I've
Hmm.. well, but at least, using words related to robotics gives a flavour of
embodiment :-).
Anyhow, I still prefer sharing terminology with robotics, as opposed to
narrow AI. Narrow AI and AGI are perhaps closer, so the risk of confusion is
bigger.
/R
2008/3/29, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL
Robert/Ben:. In fact. I would suggest that AGI researchers start to
distinguish
themselves from narrow AGI by replacing the over ambiguous concepts from
AI,
one by one. For example:
knowledge representation = world model.
learning = world model creation
reasoning = world model simulation
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Robert/Ben:. In fact. I would suggest that AGI researchers start to
distinguish
themselves from narrow AGI by replacing the over ambiguous concepts
from
AI,
one by one. For example:
knowledge representation =
A few things come to my mind:
1. To what extent is learning and reasoning a sub topic of cognitive
architectures? Is learning and reasoning a plugin to a cognitive
architecture, or is in fact the whole cognitive architecture about learning
and reasoning.
2. I would like a special topic on AGI
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Robert Wensman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few things come to my mind:
1. To what extent is learning and reasoning a sub topic of cognitive
architectures? Is learning and reasoning a plugin to a cognitive
architecture, or is in fact the whole cognitive
Well ... I can take a shot at putting a diagram together. Making Mind Maps
is one way I learn any kind of material I want.
If the topics in the list(s) are descriptive enough, I can take a shot at
putting such a diagram together.
It'd be less work to correct it than to make one, right?
Hey -
Is there some kind of online software that lets a group of people
update a Mind Map
diagram collaboratively, in the manner of a Wiki page?
This would seem critical if a Mind Map is to really be useful for the purpose
you suggest...
-- Ben
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL
Hi Ben,
I have a publisher who would love to publish the result of the wiki as a
textbook if you are willing.
Mark
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From: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: [agi] Instead of an AGI
Ben,
Wikipedia has significant overlap with the topic list on the AGIRI Wiki. I
propose for discussion the notion that the AGIRI Wiki be content-compatible
with Wikipedia along two dimensions:
license - authors agree to the GNU Free Documentation Licenseeditorial
standards - Wikipedia says
Thanks Mark ... let's see how it evolves...
I think the problem is not finding a publisher, but rather, finding
the time to contribute and refine the content
Maybe in a year or two there will be enough good content there that
someone with appropriate time and inclination and skill can shape it
Hi Stephen,
Ben,
Wikipedia has significant overlap with the topic list on the AGIRI Wiki. I
propose for discussion the notion that the AGIRI Wiki be content-compatible
with Wikipedia along two dimensions:
license - authors agree to the GNU Free Documentation License
I have no problem with
Ben,
I just created an account on the wiki and created my user page derived from my
Wikipedia user page. Image uploads on the wiki work the same way as on
Wikipedia - Yay.
-Steve
Stephen L. Reed
Artificial Intelligence Researcher
http://texai.org/blog
http://texai.org
3008 Oak Crest Ave.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
Is there some kind of online software that lets a group of people
update a Mind Map diagram collaboratively, in the manner of a Wiki page?
This would seem critical if a Mind Map is to really be useful for the purpose
you suggest...
On 3/26/08, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot of students email me asking me what to read to get up to speed on AGI.
Ben,
while we're on the topic, could you elaborate a bit on what kind of
prerequisite knowledge the books you've written/edited require? For
instance, I've been
A propos of the several branches of discussion about AGI textbooks on
this thread...
Knowing what I do about the structure and content of the book I am
writing, I cannot imagine it being merged as just a set of branch points
from other works, like the one growing from Ben's TOC.
What I
Fair enough, Richard...
Again I'll emphasize that the idea of the Instead of an AGI Textbook
is not to teach any particular theory or design for AGI, but rather to convey
background knowledge that is useful for folks who wish to come to grips
with contemporary AGI theories and designs
I have
Thanks Ben, this is a major help to those interested in AGI but who
aren't yet in the know, it's a bit hard to follow this listserv
because there is no central place to search for terms I don't
understand.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
A lot of
Ben Goertzel wrote:
Hi all,
A lot of students email me asking me what to read to get up to speed on AGI.
So I started a wiki page called Instead of an AGI Textbook,
http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Instead_of_an_AGI_Textbook#Computational_Linguistics
Unfortunately I did not yet find time to do much
Richard,
Unfortunately I cannot bring myself to believe this will help anyone new
to the area.
The main reason is that this is only a miscellaneous list of topics,
with nothing to indicate a comprehensive theory or a unifying structure.
I do not ask for a complete unified theory, of
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard,
Unfortunately I cannot bring myself to believe this will help anyone new
to the area.
The main reason is that this is only a miscellaneous list of topics,
with nothing to indicate a comprehensive
Ben,
It is a good start!
Of course everyone else will disagree --- like what Richard did and
I'm going to do. ;-)
I'll try to find the time to provide my list --- at this moment, it
will be more like a reading list than a textbook TOC. In the future,
it will be integrated into the E-book I'm
I'll try to find the time to provide my list --- at this moment, it
will be more like a reading list than a textbook TOC.
That would be great -- however I may integrate your reading
list into my TOC ... as I really think there is value in a structured
and categorized reading list rather than
Thanks Ben. AGI is a daunting field to say the least. Many scientific
domains are involved in various degrees. I am very happy to see something
like this, because knowing where to start is not so obvious for the
beginner. I actually recently purchased Artificial Intelligence: A Modern
Yeah, the AGIRI wiki has been there for years ... the hard thing is
getting people
to contribute to it (and I myself rarely find the time...)
But if others don't chip in, I'll complete my little non-textbook
myself sometime w/in
the next month ...
-- Ben
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Aki
I actually recently purchased Artificial Intelligence: A Modern
Approach - but only because I did not know where else to start.
It's a very good book ... if you view it as providing insight into various
component technologies of potential use for AGI ... rather than as saying
very much
Ok - that was silly of me. After visiting the link (which was after I sent
the email), I noticed that is WAS a Wiki.
My apologies.
~Aki
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Ben. AGI is a daunting field to say the least. Many scientific
domains are
Hi Pei -
What about having a tree like diagram that branches out into either:
- the different paths / approaches to AGI (for instance: NARS, Novamente,
and Richard's, etc.), with suggested readings at those leaves
- area of study, with suggested readings at those leaves
Or possibly, a Mind Map
Thanks Ben. That is really exciting stuff / news. I'm loking forward to
OpenCog.
BTW - is OpenCog mainly in C++ (like Novamente) ? Or is it translations (to
Java, or other languages) of concepts so that others can code and add to it
more readily and quickly?
Thanks,
~Aki
On Tue, Mar 25,
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Pei -
What about having a tree like diagram that branches out into either:
- the different paths / approaches to AGI (for instance: NARS, Novamente,
and Richard's, etc.), with suggested readings at those leaves
-
Agree.
Pei
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds good Pei - thanks. Multiple lists are definitely a great start - to
stress differences. And a companion master list to stress similarities would
also be helpful.
Everyone learns differently - and
Sounds good Pei - thanks. Multiple lists are definitely a great start - to
stress differences. And a companion master list to stress similarities would
also be helpful.
Everyone learns differently - and though a master list may seem
intimidating, it may better represent breadth - where several
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Ben. That is really exciting stuff / news. I'm loking forward to
OpenCog.
BTW - is OpenCog mainly in C++ (like Novamente) ? Or is it translations (to
Java, or other languages) of concepts so that others can code
This kind of diagram would certainly be meaningful, but, it would be a
lot of work to put together, even more so than a traditional TOC ...
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Pei -
What about having a tree like diagram that branches out into either:
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