On 2023-05-19 7:12 PM, blob via agora-discussion wrote:
I've been skimming over some of the past conversations about Rice Plans,
but can't find anything in the rules about them. Would someone mind
explaining it to me? Thanks!
Rice plans are from a new rule brought about by p8969 which has the
I've been skimming over some of the past conversations about Rice Plans,
but can't find anything in the rules about them. Would someone mind
explaining it to me? Thanks!
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:49 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:46 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> > On 5/19/23 16:40, Forest Sweeney wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:31 PM Janet Cobb via
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:46 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/19/23 16:40, Forest Sweeney wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:31 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 5/19/23 16:16, Forest Sweeney via agora-business
On 5/19/23 16:40, Forest Sweeney wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:31 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
> wrote:
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> On 5/19/23 16:16, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> > I consent to all rice plans that have my player in the Rice Up
> list and do
> > not have my player
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:40 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I'd argue that I fit criteria 4 of Rule 2519 ("Consent"):
> "4. it is reasonably clear from context that e wanted the action to
> take place or assented to it taking place."
There's quite a few precedents in
*Blows smoke off gun, spins pistol back into holster*
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:42 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:40 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> > I think
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:40 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I think it could, because I believe they are providing context which
> reasonably indicates that they want their consent to be applied in that
> way. The 4st point in Rule 2519 seems
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:31 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/19/23 16:16, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> > I consent to all rice plans that have my player in the Rice Up list and
> do
> > not have my player in the Rice Down list. I
I think it could, because I believe they are providing context which
reasonably indicates that they want their consent to be applied in that
way. The 4st point in Rule 2519 seems to allow it.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:31 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:47 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
wrote:
> So, only someone who already is in power and a beneficiary of the system
> should be entitled to propose change things?
Er, I never said you couldn't propose. I was giving you feedback on
how I felt about voting for
I think the general idea could be interesting. It's similar to juan's golem
idea, which I was also fond of.
I'm likely not the best to help with wording but, "Raybots agree to abide
by the Rules." seems weird to me. How can it 'agree' to anything?
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:52 AM ais523 via
On 5/19/23 16:16, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> I consent to all rice plans that have my player in the Rice Up list and do
> not have my player in the Rice Down list. I also consent to all rice plans
> that have no players in the Rice Up list and I am not in the Rice Down list.
>
>
I made a better consent notification anyhow, but thanks for looking out for
me! (I noticed my failure to use the right fora as well... such a 4st thing
to do!)
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 1:18 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/19/23 16:11, Forest
On 5/19/23 14:21, Beokirby via agora-discussion wrote:
On 2023-05-18 10:56 PM, Beokirby via agora-business wrote:
On 2023-05-18 10:41 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
ID Author(s) AI Title
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On 5/19/23 15:21, Beokirby via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2023-05-18 10:56 PM, Beokirby via agora-business wrote:
>> On 2023-05-18 10:41 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
>>> ID Author(s) AI Title
>>>
On 5/19/23 16:11, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:57 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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>> On 5/19/23 14:56, juan via agora-business wrote:
>>> I create and consent to the following Rice Plan:
>>>
>>> Rice Up: []
>>>
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:57 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/19/23 14:56, juan via agora-business wrote:
> > I create and consent to the following Rice Plan:
> >
> > Rice Up: []
> > Rice Down: []
> >
>
> I consent to the above rice plan.
>
> --
>
- I like the Focuses idea.
- I think you'd really just want to use your Stamps to win rather than
anything else. Maybe instead you can only Focus on something if you have
the right Stamp or combination of Stamps in your possession? For example,
something like: Voting Focus [Requirement: Ownership
On 2023-05-18 10:56 PM, Beokirby via agora-business wrote:
On 2023-05-18 10:41 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
ID Author(s) AI Title
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8980~ Yachay 1.0 Riding with
You could say that to anyone disadvantaged who wants to change how things
are, it's not particularly insightful (or accurate, in this case).
So, only someone who already is in power and a beneficiary of the system
should be entitled to propose change things?
I don't think my situation is as bad,
On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 11:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:25 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to thank ais523 for the 4pocalypse where everyone has 44 points.
> > > As such, if the 4pocalypse is real, I intend to, with Agoran Consent,
> > >
On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 11:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:25 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to thank ais523 for the 4pocalypse where everyone has 44 points.
> > > As such, if the 4pocalypse is real, I intend to, with Agoran Consent,
> > >
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:41 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
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> On 5/19/23 12:26, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote
> >> 8978* Janet 3.0 Authorized initiation
> > FOR, although it doesn't actually solve the issue that brought this
> > up, as it doesn't ratify
On 2023-05-19 1:38 PM, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote:
There's danger in a contract like this. If you have 0 Rice, and say, I have
1 Rice, and I submit a Rice Plan that gives us both 1 Rice and it ends up
being the Rice Plan that passes, then you lose that round and I win that
On 5/19/23 12:26, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote
>> 8978* Janet 3.0 Authorized initiation
> FOR, although it doesn't actually solve the issue that brought this
> up, as it doesn't ratify a *proposal's* existence when the decision is
> to adopt a proposal (the equivalent
There's danger in a contract like this. If you have 0 Rice, and say, I have
1 Rice, and I submit a Rice Plan that gives us both 1 Rice and it ends up
being the Rice Plan that passes, then you lose that round and I win that
round, and we're both set back to 0 Rice.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 7:21 PM
On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > I sometimes feel like half my arguing at Agora is dedicated to trying
> > to persuade people not to repeal the economy.
> >
> > It rarely works,
On 5/19/23 11:50, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
I'd much rather take the route of trying to get the Radiance/Stamps
system functional again, than of trying to repeal it. (Stamps in
particular are one of the most powerful "new player perks" we've seen,
and I suspect that that's a good
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> > discussion wrote:
> > > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> > discussion wrote:
> > > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I
Technically you need to "consent" to having your "Signature" on a "Rice
Plan", but given how lenient consent rules are (Rule 2519, point 4
especially), I believe this and the others like it are fine. It just needs
to be "reasonably clear from context".
I think it's a great advantage that the
On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 09:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
> discussion wrote:
> > With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I believe that your
> > Officer salary problem is part of a larger problem of Agora
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:43 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> I don't intend to design an economy, because I don't think I'm competent
> enough to do so. I'll try to contribute where I can, though.
>
Ah, the typical take-away power with a promise, but an unfulfilled
one. No
On 2023-05-19 1:33 AM, Katie Davenport via agora-business wrote:
I create and consent to the following rice plan.
[
Rice Up: [inalienableWright, beokirby, blob]
Rice Down: [ ]
]
-inalienableWright (Katie)
I consent to this list
I don't intend to design an economy, because I don't think I'm competent
enough to do so. I'll try to contribute where I can, though.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 6:40 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via
Most newer players aren't going to know how to navigate the game and
competently use mechanics like Stones or Dreams (I still don't know how
Stones are meant to work). And even then, there's an opportunity cost in it
all. A player that already is well-off can afford to use their Dream for
things
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:26 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote:
> With radiance and Stamps seemingly on their way out, I believe that your
> Officer salary problem is part of a larger problem of Agora overall needing
> a proper economy again, not a voting strength problem.
So offer
On 5/19/23 11:26, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion wrote:
But, no. I don't think that any player deserves ~4 times the voting
strength of a newbie, regardless of the reason. I want other players to be
able to play nomic, especially newbies, and they need a relevant amount of
voting strength
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:51 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > > Let's give everyone a more equal chance to be relevant.
> > >
>
> So right now, Officers' only
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 5:51 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> > Let's give everyone a more equal chance to be relevant.
> >
So right now, Officers' only reward is increased voting strength (I
believe), and the game is growing with lots of new players so
officers' work is getting
On 5/19/23 03:45, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
8981~ Janet, nix 2.0 Stone fixes
PRESENT for now, I haven't studied those rules yet
Well, the gist of the intended change is that some of the stones say
their own name in their effects, when it'd be better to say
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 2:08 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I submit the following two Proposals:
>
> Title: Democratization (low AI version)
> AI: 1
> Author: Yachay
> Co-Authors: None
> /*Comment: I'm fine with rewarding officers and such with
Holy shit that's a lot of voting power
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 6:52 AM Janet Cobb via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> STRENGTHS FOR PROPOSAL 8965
> ===
>
> Strengths for person G.
> ---
> 3 | Initial
> 5 | Increased by 2 due to
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