On Mon, 2023-02-13 at 10:37 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 9:53 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business
> wrote:
> > Do you want to be able to just send "ANGER" to a-b, and for it to mean "I
> > object to every intent to declare apathy."?
> > Or "I floop" to
On Sun, 2023-02-12 at 17:37 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business
wrote:
> I get a jersey for Sugar, specifying Alexia as the horse to be added
> to Sugar's pulls, by paying a fee of 1 hoof.
>
> I motivate the horses:
> The galloper is Sugar and the random number choice is 2.
What gets me about
On Sat, 2023-02-11 at 00:51 +, nix wrote:
> A few messages sent to A-B from three different players haven't gone
> through today, despite showing up in the private archive. This
> message contains no game actions and is a test of the lists.
Just as another data point, I haven't received any
On Mon, 2023-02-06 at 22:32 -0800, Aspen via agora-business wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 8:52 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > I intend, with 4 support from other players who would be Festive if the
> > Festivity was 1, to start a rank 1
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 22:28 -0800, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
> Apparently not. I was worried because I did some upgrades recently
> and there haven’t been any messages in several days.
Recently, much of the playerlist has been playing Agora primarily on
Sundays. This may be something of a
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 22:24 -0800, omd via agora-business wrote:
> Did I break the lists again?
This message got through to me, so hopefully not.
--
ais523
On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 17:29 +, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 11/7/22 07:23, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > Also you should probably deal with ziproot's Cantus
> > > Cygneus, Registrar.
> > Alas, I cannot find such a message. Please point it out to me.
>
> Here's the archive
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 19:53 +, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 10/23/22 14:30, ziproot via agora-business wrote:
> > I vote AGAINST (birds are no longer in the game and should not be
> > referenced if we're updating stones, and the power stone has been
> > confirmed via CFJs 3396 and 3997
On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 10:33 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> As I said previously, I don't believe punishment gets anything
> anywhere.
>
> The matter here is how to stop a pattern of abuse and make it clear
> Agora does not condone it. In this specific case, the pattern of abuse
> is
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 18:14 +0200, Madrid via agora-discussion wrote:
> Its true that I don't care much about upholding ancient tradition.
>
> It's nomic, a game of change, and I'm very willing to see Spivak
> removed.
I would prefer to keep Spivak, not so much due to the tradition, but
due to
On Sun, 2022-08-28 at 22:16 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business
wrote:
> As I'm kinda bullying everyone, I thought it would be appropriate if
> anything passes that I have some sort of penalty also. This sorta
> thing really shouldn't be allowed, though.
I think the easiest way to prevent
On Fri, 2022-08-26 at 16:21 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> Secretsnail has 105 points. E wins Nomaoic 2. Attached is all proposals,
> final scores, and final rule set. No proposal ever passed, so the rules
> never changed.
And here I was, curious as to what sort of really interesting
On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 21:26 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> I can't take it anymore.
>
> I searched the web for it, but the only significant hits were for
> Agora's archives.
>
> I even grepped the ruleset with varying regexes trying to understand.
>
> But I can't.
>
> What does
On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 09:00 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> Ah - that's plausible. On the other hand, I'm thinking that if you could
> ratify the ossification statement and thus flip a switch, you could also
> perform a direct ratification of that switch without mentioning
>
On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 07:38 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 8/18/2022 7:33 AM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 07:26 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > > On 8/18/2022 3:18 AM, Madrid via agora-business wrote
On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 07:26 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 8/18/2022 3:18 AM, Madrid via agora-business wrote:
> > I intend to ratify without objection the following: "Agora is not ossified."
>
> [snip]
>
> If such a statement is ratified when it *doesn't* match the
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 12:13 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> Not part of judgement: I think that under the current rules, "submit" is
> most clearly read as a synonym for "adding a proposal to the proposal
> pool" which is a consequence following on from creation (performable
>
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 19:48 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote:
> It really just depends on how you define "different". If they are the same,
> they could have just both been denied when I denied the first one. You
> don't have to exist to be preemptively denied. You could also
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 19:30 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 7:17 PM ais523 via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > CoE: the proposal referred to as "8817" above doesn't exist. Adding
> > a proposal that's already in the proposal
On Sat, 2022-07-16 at 00:35 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 7:27 PM ais523 via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > No it isn't – "the proposal" has a perfectly well-defined meaning in
> >
On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 19:23 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
wrote:
> It's as if I specified it each time I did the action, since "the
> proposal" is just a shorthand for "a proposal with the following
> attributes".
No it isn't – "the proposal" has a perfectly well-defined meaning in
On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 18:17 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
wrote:
> > In order to force this reading, you'd have to write something like
> > "81
> > times, I perform the following action: {{{ I submit the following
> > proposal: … }}}", which is a long way away from what you actually
> >
On Fri, 2022-07-15 at 17:31 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a Motion to Reconsider CFJ 3978.
> (Or ais523 could just self-file and address this which would be cool.)
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:52 PM ais523 via agora-business <
>
On Sun, 2022-07-10 at 18:09 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-official
wrote:
> 8724- secretsnail 1.0 It's only one point
> 8804 (all ~ (Ordinary)) (yes these are 81 identical proposals)
I recommend that everyone withhold voting on these, in order to
increase the chance that they fail
On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 18:56 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 7/5/22 13:59, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> >
> > Repeal Rule 2618 (Promises).
> >
> > Repeal Rule 1742 (Contracts).
> >
> > Repeal Rule 2450 (Pledges).
> >
> They all serve different purposes and are
On Wed, 2022-06-22 at 18:43 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Going thru the SLR spelling...
> Do we prefer deputise or deputize?
> Authorise or authorize?
> Summarise or summarize?
>
> etc.
>
> Based on what's currently there, deputise is the outlier with the
> british
On Wed, 2022-06-22 at 18:22 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> Okay apparently I'm an idiot and the message never actually called a
> CFJ, so the assignment failed and ais523 has nothing to judge.
Now I'm happy that I postponed judging it!
Just to verify that I have no obligations
On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 08:19 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> I don't agree with this interpretation. There are quite a few examples of
> using "wrong" nicknames if the person is clear from context (it's ancient
> so I'm not citing this as strict precedent, but CFJ 1361 is an
On Sun, 2022-06-19 at 15:51 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> >
> > Rule 2621/9 (Power=1.0)
> > VP Wins
> >
> > If a player has at least 20 more Winsomes than each other player,
> > e CAN Take Over
On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 02:07 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> Assignment of dice rolls to rules:
> 139:R2658;
Based on CFJ outcomes, this might not be a valid roll. I'll try another
one later this week if this one failed.
--
ais523
Mad Engineer
On Sun, 2022-06-12 at 12:22 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> The Winds Died Down recently, beginning the procedure described in
> R2658.
>
> It's pretty clear to me that all of the repeals of (1) went through,
> and I can't think of an argument that those repeals failed.
The rule
On Sun, 2022-06-12 at 11:31 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> The first one depends on whether the recent CFJs means repeals didn't
> happen - Haven't seen any other arguments for BBGs still existing
> (let me know if I missed one).
I was planning to conditionalise it on whether
On Sat, 2022-06-11 at 20:39 -0700, Forest Sweeney wrote:
> I cancel all duels I've sponsored thus far, as needed.
>
> I create a promise with the text "the author transfers one of eir stamps to
> the bearer.", referred to as my stamp promise.
>
> I sponsor a new duel, with the reward as my stamp
On Sat, 2022-06-11 at 07:02 -0700, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> I sponsor a new duel. The entry fee is 2 boatloads of coins.
> The reward is my promise with the text "4st transfers 1 4st stamp to the
> bearer.", which I transfer to the contract.
Do you have such a promise? You can
On Wed, 2022-06-01 at 18:20 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 48
> This is R2154, Election Procedure.
For reference:
{{{
When an election is initiated, it enters the nomination period,
which lasts for 4 days. After an election is initiated and until
On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 16:23 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> "I act on behalf of the Device to cause the Device to deactivate emself.
> [This would fail if the Device were not currently on.]" As deactivating
> isn't defined for the device, this is ambiguous. Given "A Device CAN
>
On Sat, 2022-05-28 at 11:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/28/2022 2:03 AM, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> > The main question, therefore, is whether I can succeed 100 times in
> > assigning the Device to myself. A power-1 rule says that I CAN, and no
> > rule seems to
On Sat, 2022-05-28 at 11:12 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> On 5/28/2022 9:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> > On 5/28/22 05:03, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> > > CFJ, barring Jason: I won the game by Taking Over The Economy
> > > today.
> >
> > The above CFJ is
On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 03:38 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
>
> The dice roll was: 80
> This is R2481, Festival Restrictions.
For reference:
{{{
While Agora's Festivity is nonzero, the following apply:
1. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding,
On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 22:07 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> ais523 via agora-official [2022-05-22 20:33]:
> > The Device is off.
> >
> > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause rule 2655 to amend the rule
> > "The Device" by appending the following as a list item to the "When the
> >
On Fri, 2022-05-20 at 14:46 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> To be clear, I don't *want* to see "new" economic play, I'd prefer to move
> on, and I'm not particularly keen on a "new economy" so don't see how
> that's on me exactly? That's fine if you all are enjoying what's going on
On Fri, 2022-05-20 at 14:07 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> I resign from the office of Ministor.
>
> [
> We're in a position where nobody wants to play the ongoing game (no trades
> etc.) but the repeal of the game is failing too - this seems like a worst
> case scenario for
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 02:29 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 112
> This is R2606, Proposal Classes.
For reference:
{{{
Proposals created since the enactment of this rule have a secured
untracked Class switch with possible values ordinary (the
On Sun, 2022-05-15 at 11:21 -0500, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
> 10. The initial rules of Nomaoic are below: {
This opening brace is unmatched.
--
ais523
On Mon, 2022-05-09 at 06:35 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 88
> This is R2505, Random Choices.
For reference:
{{{
When a Rule specifies that a random choice be made, then the
choice shall be made using whatever probability distribution among
On Sun, 2022-05-08 at 11:06 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> I withdraw my previous proposal, Endgame.
>
> I submit the following proposal, Endgame, AI-1, and pay a pendant to pend it:
>
> ---
>
> Create the following power=1 rule, titled Buyout:
>
> Any player who has
On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 22:43 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> secretsnail9 via agora-business [2022-05-02 19:03]:
> > I submit the following proposal, and pend it by paying a fee of 1 pendant.
> > {
> > Amend Rule 2621 (VP Wins) by replacing "If a player has at least 20 more
> > Winsomes
On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 05:01 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 57
> This is R2231, Order of the Hero of Agora Nomic.
Huh, I'd forgotten about that rule.
For reference:
{{{
Heroic titles are Agora's premier patent titles of distinction,
and CAN be
On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 19:52 -0700, Aspen via agora-discussion wrote:
> Nominees:
>
> IDAuthor(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8535 Aris, nix, G., Gaelan3.0 We the People
> 8561 G., nix 2.0
On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 03:33 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-business
wrote:
> Given ais523's Agoran birthday is the 28th of April, I grant em 2
> boatloads of coins.
>
> Happy 14th Agoran Birthday!
Thank you for the birthday wishes, everyone.
Even though I haven't been playing continuously for 14
On Mon, 2022-04-25 at 02:23 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 13
> This is R693, Agoran Decisions.
For reference:
{{{
When the rules call for an Agoran decision to be made, the
decision-making process takes place in the following three
On Tue, 2022-04-19 at 00:24 +, nixnull+agora--- via agora-business wrote:
> I consent to and join Obstructive Pooling.
>
> I propose and consent to the following amendment to Obstructive Pooling:
>
> {
> Add the following paragraph:
>
> nix CAN, by announcement, transfer a Voting Card from
On Mon, 2022-04-18 at 17:35 +, nixnull+agora--- via agora-business
wrote:
> On 4/18/22 12:32, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> > Two times, I Mint a Stamp, pursuant to the contract "Stamp
> > Servitude". (Madrid is the Other.)
> >
> > (To Mint a Stamp is to perform the following
On Mon, 2022-04-18 at 02:41 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 144
> This is R2656, Points.
For reference:
{{{
A player's Score, indicated in Points, is an integer player switch
defaulting to 0, tracked by the Herald.
Upon a correct
On Mon, 2022-04-11 at 19:29 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote:
> That actually didn't seem like a good defense for me. The rule
> explicitly states that commiting the crime is to perform an action that
> “would” cause Agora to be Ossified. The only possible interpretation for
> that tense is
On Mon, 2022-04-11 at 23:59 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 87
> This is R2499, Welcome Packages.
For reference:
{{{
A Welcome Package is a set of assets containing:
* 10 boatloads of coins~>, AND<~
~>* 1 of each type of card
On Sun, 2022-04-10 at 14:44 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:
> (These both need specific values of N filled in)
>
> Proto: Inclusivity
> (AI = N)
>
> Create a rule "Inclusivity" with power N and this text:
>
>A requirement that something be "reasonable" or "reasonably
>
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 19:45 +, nix via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 4/8/22 13:34, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Also, while timing scams are interesting gameplay, I don't think it's a
> > good idea to change the rules for the sole purpose of making them easier
> > to perform. In
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 13:54 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal:
>
> Title: No finger pointing on behalf
FWIW, I'd prefer to expand the set of actions-on-behalf rather than
shrinking it (e.g. allowing objections/support to be made on
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 12:41 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2022, at 12:36 PM, ais523 via agora-business
> wrote:
> > I point my finger at the person who initiated the Finger Pointing
> > specified by the bearer for violating rule 2478, committing the Crime
> > of
On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 18:19 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> If a promise specifies expiration
> conditions then any player CAN by announcement destroy it while
> the expiration conditions are met.
This needs at least an "unambiguously" in there, to prevent paradox
On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 00:25 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> This is an automated selection of a random rule from Agora's ruleset,
> as part of the Mad Engineer's weekly duties.
> Randomizing from 153 rules.
[Thanks to Jason for letting me (and the dicebot) know where to
On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 18:07 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 4/5/22 18:03, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 00:00 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
> > business wrote:
> > > This is an automated selection of a random rule from Agora's
> > > ruleset,
On Mon, 2022-03-28 at 02:05 +0200, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 124
> This is R2629, Victory Auctions.
Another duplicate. For reference, again:
{{{
The Treasuror CAN conduct an auction (a "victory auction") if no
victory auction is ongoing. The
On Sun, 2022-03-27 at 23:49 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 3/26/22 10:07, nix via agora-business wrote:
> > > 8660* nix, G., Jason, snail 3.0 The End of Sets
> > FOR
>
> I change my vote to PRESENT. Some people seem still interested, so if
> this fails I'll try doing some
On Sat, 2022-03-26 at 02:44 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote:
> I personally don't know why you wouldn't point a finger at a crime
> while the option for it to be forgivable exists.
A point of Agoran history: at some times in Agora's history, there
hasn't been a Blot equivalent,
On Sat, 2022-03-26 at 06:52 +, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> Finally, this literally does no harm whatsoever to Agora. In my
> opinion crimes exist to chastise someone if something they do harms
> Agora or makes it unreasonable to play.
There is a slight bit of harm involved – it
On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 17:28 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I transfer all of my win cards and winsomes to ais523 for the sole
> purpose of depositing them into Obstructive Pooling.
Just to confirm, is this 1 Win Card and 3 Winsomes?
(I'll put out an Accountant's Report if we're
On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 16:21 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> Add a new P=3 rule titled "The Winds Die Down" with the following
> text:
>
> When the winds die down repeal R2620 "Cards & Sets", R2623 "Popular
> Proposal Proposer Privilege", R2629 "Victory Auctions", R2624 "Card
>
On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 01:12 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> Assignment of dice rolls to rules:
> 106:R2579; 107:R2581; 108:R2582; 109:R2585; 110:R2603; 111:R2605;
[I added a special case in the randomization program so that it would
know that R2602 isn't a rule, even
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 01:48 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> On 3/20/22 05:03, Aspen via agora-official wrote:
> > ID Author(s) AITitle
> > ---
> > 8655& Jason, nix 1.0 Restricted
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 19:38 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 3/20/22 18:13, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> > I point my finger at Jason for violating rule 2143, committing the
> > Class 2 Crime of Tardiness, via failing to perform the Rulekeepor's
> > weekly duties in the week
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 23:41 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-business
wrote:
> I table each of the above intents again.
[snip]
> This may work because each intent is ripe (tabled within the past 14
> days) and mature (tabled at least 4 days ago).
[snip]
> Precedent on this? This seems way too broken
On Wed, 2022-03-16 at 03:58 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 56
> This is R2221, Cleanliness and Tidy Filing.
[I forgot to do this earlier.]
For reference:
{{{
Rule 2221/8 (Power=3)
Cleanliness and Tidy Filing
Any player CAN clean a rule without
On Wed, 2022-03-16 at 02:39 +, nix via agora-business wrote:
> Oops, there's two things I need to clean up here. I consent to, and then
> do so, amending NOTA by:
>
> Replacing:
> {
> Any player may become a party to this contract. This contract may be
> amended in a specified way by Agoran
On Thu, 2022-02-03 at 01:54 +, nix via agora-official wrote:
> LONG SERVICE AWARDS
> Three Months: ais523, Alexis, aranea, Aris, ATMunn, BobTHJ,
>Falsifian, G., Iammers, Jason, Michael, Murphy,
>nix, omd,
On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 14:58 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 45
> This is R2141, Role and Attributes of Rules.
For reference:
{{{
A rule is a type of instrument that is always taking effect and
has the capacity to govern the game generally. A
On Fri, 2022-03-04 at 03:16 -0800, Aspen via agora-discussion wrote:
> My draft report follows.
I submitted a proposal at 13:44 UTC last Friday, which you haven't
included in the draft report.
--
ais523
On Tue, 2022-03-01 at 04:03 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote:
> Resending for formatting,
> also made the migration notice a monthly report that includes number times
> players bought bird food in the previous month,
> fixed typos, and added a 30 day window for permit purchases to be
On Mon, 2022-02-28 at 19:36 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business
wrote:
> I cease to be a party to the contract "Nim", causing it to terminate.
>
> I create, consent to, and become party to a contract titled "Nim"
> with the following provisions:
I might be missing something, but this seems to
On Sat, 2022-02-26 at 08:47 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> I object. The device may gain powers etc I’m not gonna hand to the
> assessor - seems a bit mad to do so
This might fail due to ambiguity (there were two intents). You might
want to clarify which you're objecting to (I
On Fri, 2022-02-25 at 03:22 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
wrote:
> My new and improved, full-proto-judgement of CFJ 3947 follows.
You've done a good job with this! Many of the points you've covered
have been decided before, and I think you've come to the same
conclusions for the same
On Thu, 2022-02-24 at 08:21 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion
> > Although this reasoning would solve a few problems if it worked, I'm
> > not convinced it matches the language of the rule in question. &q
On Thu, 2022-02-24 at 07:40 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> I judge 3941 as follows:
>
> First, to be clear, The Device switch and The Device rule are not
> "devices" by virtue of their names alone.
>
> The phrase in question should be read in context of the full clause of
> the
On Mon, 2022-02-21 at 02:47 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 41
> This is R2137, The Assessor.
For reference:
{{{
The Assessor is an office; its holder is responsible for
collecting votes and keeping track of related properties.
}}}
Well, I
On Fri, 2022-02-18 at 15:14 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> These should be uncontroversial:
>
> I intend with two objections, to shred Joevotes.
>
> I intend with two objections, to shred the contract Now We Nomic. [Now
> We Nomic has been formally ended, and this contract has no
On Tue, 2022-02-15 at 20:13 +, Nix Null via agora-official wrote:
> So right now, I'm asking for at least 3 people to please take the
> time to read Trigon's hard work and respond to it as described above.
There's a typo in the section "Ownership vs. Possession" (specifically,
an unfinished
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 06:29 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 4
> This is R105, Rule Changes.
For reference:
{{{
When the rules provide that an instrument takes effect, it can
generally:
1. enact a rule. The new rule has power
On Thu, 2022-02-10 at 23:54 -0600, Mark Wieland via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I had noticed this particular CFJ was taking longer than the others,
> but you're right that nobody noticed this infraction at the time. As
> Arbitor, I probably should have been paying more attention and
> notified
On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 13:04 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-official
wrote:
> I number the below cfj 3946 and assign it to ais523:
>
> Forwarded Message
>
[snip]
>
> I initiate and submit the following CFJ to the referee, barring secretsnail:
>
> CFJ: secretsnail deputized to
On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 01:04 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 134
> This is R2641, Wielding Stones.
For reference:
{{{
Except as otherwise specified by the rules, the owner of a stone
CAN wield it by announcement specifying any values needed
On Fri, 2022-02-04 at 22:47 +0100, Madrid via agora-business wrote:
> This is a test, of possibly several, to check the viability of explicitly
> trying every action sequence possible up to a certain length with a
> conditional tagged onto it to try to brute force scams that have the only,
> sole
On Wed, 2022-02-02 at 14:07 -0500, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Title: Deputisation rwrite
I'd prefer to go down a bit of a different path – I agree with barring
deputisation for very old duties, but think that players should be
barred from deputising if they've held or deputised the
On Wed, 2022-02-02 at 12:04 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> (Pretty sure this works because deputization is allowed when an office is
> filled if the time limit has expired more than 14 days ago. I think this is
> problematic in general since if this works, someone could dig up an
On Wed, 2022-02-02 at 00:44 +, Trigon via agora-business wrote:
> El 02/02/2022 a las 00:42, ais523 via agora-business escribió:
> > On Tue, 2022-02-01 at 18:38 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > > I intend to refile the device, without objection, under the new title
> > >
On Sun, 2022-01-30 at 17:40 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> I don't see anything preventing the intent from reading "I intend to
> repeal that rule and then this one" i.e. I'd read it as the rule doesn't
> prescribe the order of repealing, but the announcement of intent can (and
>
On Sun, 2022-01-30 at 12:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote:
> Proposal: No audience, no action
> (AI = 3)
>
> Amend Rule 478 (Fora) by replacing this text:
>
>A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to
>all players
>
> with this text:
>
>
On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 01:40 +0100, nethack4.org dicebot via agora-
business wrote:
> The dice roll was: 125
> This is R2629, Victory Auctions.
For reference:
{{{
The Treasuror CAN conduct an auction (a "victory auction") if no
victory auction is ongoing. The Treasuror MUST do so at
On Sun, 2022-01-23 at 16:24 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> [Note: While the Arbitor's office has been vacant and I've been referee,
> I've been purposefully leaving a few days between my finger-pointing and
> deputisation to resolve finger-points, so anyone else can do it if they
On Sun, 2022-01-23 at 13:49 -0800, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> * Having submitted an unconditional ballot AGAINST a referendum to
> adopt a sponsored proposal, provided that the ballot is valid at
> the time the referendum is assessed, and provided that the
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